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whale1987
post Dec 8 2010, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Dec 8 2010, 05:45 PM)
Hi guys, its been pretty long since i posted. haha...
Hey seniors... how r u... looks like there are lots of new forumer. cool...
yo bro... 73kg at 175cm eh. well, it depends on ur built as well. For example, i am 86kg but flabby. Some ppl maybe be 70kg but can squat much more. well, a good estimation i heard was 1.5 times ur body weight. so, probably 110-120kg is a good bench mark. for deadlift i think 2 times ur body weight i guess. anyway all the best bro. hehe
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owh, so at least squatting my own bodyweight is a good benchmark.. looks like i nid to invest in more weights den, maybe in the near future thumbup.gif

Since i am only lifting 40kg now, i nid to get another 40Kg at least... thats gonna burn my wallet like a fire spreading in a forest.. 1 piece of 10KG weight cost around RM100... doh.gif
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post Dec 8 2010, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Dec 8 2010, 05:45 PM)
Hi guys, its been pretty long since i posted. haha...
Hey seniors... how r u... looks like there are lots of new forumer. cool...


yo bro... 73kg at 175cm eh. well, it depends on ur built as well. For example, i am 86kg but flabby. Some ppl maybe be 70kg but can squat much more. well, a good estimation i heard was 1.5 times ur body weight. so, probably 110-120kg is a good bench mark. for deadlift i think 2 times ur body weight i guess. anyway all the best bro. hehe
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wow... u also went mia? lol... hows ure training goin?
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post Dec 8 2010, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(whale1987 @ Dec 8 2010, 02:50 PM)
For me to do squats is a bit tricky, i dont have a squat rack so i utilize my benchpress-bench instead. What i do is to stand behind the bench with the barbell and weights already in place, then i squat down to position the barbell onto my shoulders > lift > step back > begin squatting.

Btw how heavy do ppl around my stats squat? Or rather how heavy do you all squat? Just wana use the information as a benchmark to see how i am stacking up..
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i am about 70kg same height , squatted 165lbs including the bar last week,deadlift about 140lbs. but i can't bench pass 100lbs cry.gif
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post Dec 8 2010, 09:59 PM

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hi guys, i've been working out for nearly 3 years. The gains were good so far until i got tangled up with work.

I will feel tired and lack off energy when i go to the gym. One mistake i made was eating the same amount of food.

Now i feel there a slight layer of fat that has covered the six pads. Only the tummy, other areas are fine. I've been trying to do cardio but the progress is slow.

I'm still trying to build muscles as well so should be continue building and cut later?
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post Dec 8 2010, 10:47 PM

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GUys ~ what do u all feel and where after SQUATS ? i dont feel any shit on my hamstring? no effect ? definitely doin the right way but my friend got some " tensed / burning " effect on his hamstring after 4sets
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post Dec 8 2010, 11:15 PM

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Guys, I injured my wrist while benching i think, my wrist doesnt feel pain untill the next morning, its not swollen or anything, by the way my wrist looks, its perfectly normal, but theres some movement of my hand that will cause the pain on my wrist, it feels like the veins are twitching. It been 2 weeks though. The pain got magnified today.

Any recommended Chiropractors in KL which I can consult?
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post Dec 8 2010, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Dec 8 2010, 07:21 PM)
i am about 70kg same height , squatted 165lbs including the bar last week,deadlift about 140lbs. but i can't bench pass 100lbs  cry.gif
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it takes time mate, btw if u can squat 165lbs, u can definitely deadlift more... try a bit more, step up your gear... if u are training with partner, ask ure partner to secretly add some xtra weight for deadlift while u thought ure lifting the same amount, thats what happened to me, and believe me, i was amazed by myself too. as for bench, just be patient....it crawls slowly, but steady, not stock market crisis shock.
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QUOTE(chewinggum @ Dec 8 2010, 10:47 PM)
GUys ~ what do u all feel and where after SQUATS ? i dont feel any shit on my hamstring? no effect ? definitely doin the right way but my friend got some " tensed / burning " effect on his hamstring after 4sets
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The lower your squat, the more you bring your glutes and hamstrings into play.
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post Dec 9 2010, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(izglory @ Dec 8 2010, 11:15 PM)
Guys, I injured my wrist while benching i think, my wrist doesnt feel pain untill the next morning, its not swollen or anything, by the way my wrist looks, its perfectly normal, but theres some movement of my hand that will cause the pain on my wrist, it feels like the veins are twitching. It been 2 weeks though. The pain got magnified today.

Any recommended Chiropractors in KL which I can consult?
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i think u got the same injury i had, din position wrist good during bench, it took me 1month+ of rest, only it cured.

my advise: stop using ur wrist, work on legs. let ur wrist to heal, apply hot tower to the wrist for better recovery.
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post Dec 9 2010, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(whale1987 @ Dec 8 2010, 06:07 PM)
owh, so at least squatting my own bodyweight is a good benchmark.. looks like i nid to invest in more weights den, maybe in the near future thumbup.gif

Since i am only lifting 40kg now, i nid to get another 40Kg at least... thats gonna burn my wallet like a fire spreading in a forest.. 1 piece of 10KG weight cost around RM100...  doh.gif
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haha... good benchmark would be min ur body weight i guess. but ideal is 1.5x.

QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Dec 8 2010, 06:20 PM)
wow... u also went mia? lol... hows ure training goin?
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yeah i went mia for so damn long. training kinda slow down. will post pics probably in 1-2 weeks time hopefully.
weight maintain, but not sure bout others. hahhahaha... my stats definitely dropped like mad. =.=

QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Dec 8 2010, 07:21 PM)
i am about 70kg same height , squatted 165lbs including the bar last week,deadlift about 140lbs. but i can't bench pass 100lbs  cry.gif
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bench press is just so hard to increase. haha i am having the same problem.
since b4, i cant get it to go up.
deadlift 185kg, squat 155kg, bench press only 105kg. wanna hit 120kg also cannot.
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post Dec 9 2010, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Dec 9 2010, 10:49 AM)
haha... good benchmark would be min ur body weight i guess. but ideal is 1.5x.
yeah i went mia for so damn long. training kinda slow down. will post pics probably in 1-2 weeks time hopefully.
weight maintain, but not sure bout others. hahhahaha... my stats definitely dropped like mad. =.=
bench press is just so hard to increase. haha i am having the same problem.
since b4, i cant get it to go up.
deadlift 185kg, squat 155kg, bench press only 105kg. wanna hit 120kg also cannot.
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Please don't take any offense Jon, and this definitely isn't targeted at you specifically, it's just that I don't understand why do people slack off the lifestyle sometimes for no reason unless it's a personal crisis, serious injury or an extremely time consuming commitment. I know some guys I train with who have worse work hours than me (and when this statement comes from someone of my profession, that's means nasty work hours) but are still insanely dedicated to the lifestyle.

Maybe I'm looking at it from a skewed POV, I've been guilty of slacking a few times in my life ever since I've taken up the sport but never on extended periods. I might never compete but it's something that'll stay with me through life.
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post Dec 9 2010, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(choyster @ Dec 8 2010, 03:00 PM)
For hamstring i could do that with a added deadlifts, but what lower back exercise would you suggest , i cant do much pullups  sad.gif  , but generally do you think i am overtraining?
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Do both Deadlift and rows then.
overtraining? depends on training frequency, if thats 3x a week... M W F, then its fine, no over training. if thats everyday 7x aweek, then perhaps.
but from that routine itself, it seems fine.
whatever it is, just listen to ur body

QUOTE(whale1987 @ Dec 8 2010, 06:07 PM)
owh, so at least squatting my own bodyweight is a good benchmark.. looks like i nid to invest in more weights den, maybe in the near future thumbup.gif

Since i am only lifting 40kg now, i nid to get another 40Kg at least... thats gonna burn my wallet like a fire spreading in a forest.. 1 piece of 10KG weight cost around RM100...  doh.gif
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Good luck with the weights then.
my highest record for squat is 1.5x bw. but nowadays can just do arnd 1.2-1.3x of bodyweight...
i still has long way to go too
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post Dec 9 2010, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Dec 9 2010, 01:22 PM)
Please don't take any offense Jon, and this definitely isn't targeted at you specifically, it's just that I don't understand why do people slack off the lifestyle sometimes for no reason unless it's a personal crisis, serious injury or an extremely time consuming commitment. I know some guys I train with who have worse work hours than me (and when this statement comes from someone of my profession, that's means nasty work hours) but are still insanely dedicated to the lifestyle.

Maybe I'm looking at it from a skewed POV, I've been guilty of slacking a few times in my life ever since I've taken up the sport but never on extended periods. I might never compete but it's something that'll stay with me through life.
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from what i can see from my gym, people come and go all the time. its the ones who are really into it that stays. hence you get to know some real great guys. if you're into it, you are, and if you're not, well you would know after a few sessions. laugh.gif

no offense to anyone either, just stating out an opinion.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Dec 9 2010, 01:22 PM)
Please don't take any offense Jon, and this definitely isn't targeted at you specifically, it's just that I don't understand why do people slack off the lifestyle sometimes for no reason unless it's a personal crisis, serious injury or an extremely time consuming commitment. I know some guys I train with who have worse work hours than me (and when this statement comes from someone of my profession, that's means nasty work hours) but are still insanely dedicated to the lifestyle.

Maybe I'm looking at it from a skewed POV, I've been guilty of slacking a few times in my life ever since I've taken up the sport but never on extended periods. I might never compete but it's something that'll stay with me through life.
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heh heh, bro, u been training for many many years man, even if u dont train for a week, i bet your body feels "itchy" to wanna train.
most other trainees havent had that many years of that lifestyle yet.. so they can still fall off the wagon

but then again, its all about commitment too... and how bad they want it.
i know some fellas that trained to look better so they have better chances with girls, they eventually got a gf, and stopped training completely.
so its all for a diff purpose. lol


Added on December 9, 2010, 4:27 pm
QUOTE(izglory @ Dec 8 2010, 11:15 PM)
Guys, I injured my wrist while benching i think, my wrist doesnt feel pain untill the next morning, its not swollen or anything, by the way my wrist looks, its perfectly normal, but theres some movement of my hand that will cause the pain on my wrist, it feels like the veins are twitching. It been 2 weeks though. The pain got magnified today.

Any recommended Chiropractors in KL which I can consult?
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u check check sport therapists or such... in seapark got 2... oriental tittar and one more i dunno whats the fellas name... its near that Oriental too.
probaly too much load on ur wrist, i had the same problem last time too... my problem came form barbell BP and wrong squatting form (trying to support weight with hands too)
so i stopped doing barbell Bp since and fixed my squat form. now i just do DB BP and the problem hasnt come back...
dont know if that might work for u
btu do go check out ur wrist too. helps it recover faster


Added on December 9, 2010, 4:31 pm
QUOTE(silverwave @ Dec 8 2010, 09:59 PM)
hi guys, i've been working out for nearly 3 years. The gains were good so far until i got tangled up with work.

I will feel tired and lack off energy when i go to the gym. One mistake i made was eating the same amount of food.

Now i feel there a slight layer of fat that has covered the six pads. Only the tummy, other areas are fine. I've been trying to do cardio but the progress is slow.

I'm still trying to build muscles as well so should be continue building and cut later?
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I'd love to help, but dieting is very individual sensitive especially when it comes to "build muscle and lose fat" at the same time.
if general weight loss only, then not so bad.
i'm still trying to perfect my own diet too... cant seem to get it right.

but in general, r u going to the beach or any particular event that needs u to be topless? if no, you dont really need that six packs.. so u can continue bulking. just my opinion tho.
it all depends on ur goals

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post Dec 9 2010, 04:38 PM

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it boils down to this

BD is a Life Style, not a mere hobby

i only trained for abt 8 mths, but i enjoy it very much.
even when i went on holiday to phuket n penang, i still workout using the free gym or using body weight exercises.
nex trip to hkg, but no gym.
i figured out i might b able to jog along victora habour in the morning

neek is right abt the itchness if dun train biggrin.gif
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post Dec 9 2010, 05:11 PM

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guys .. is Preacher curls , Dumbbell Bicep curls and Concentration Curls targetting the same group of bicep muscle ?

i'm planning to do 2 or 3 exercises on bicep( 6x6 ) for strength training.
currently having Hammer curls on the list . wanted to add 2more exercises but different variations, any feedbacks ... ?
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QUOTE(chewinggum @ Dec 9 2010, 05:11 PM)
guys .. is Preacher curls , Dumbbell Bicep curls and Concentration Curls targetting the same group of bicep muscle ?

i'm planning to do 2 or 3 exercises on bicep( 6x6 ) for strength training.
currently having Hammer curls on the list . wanted to add 2more exercises but different variations, any feedbacks ... ?
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How about trying compound movements involving biceps? Chin ups, seated rows.
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post Dec 9 2010, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(chewinggum @ Dec 9 2010, 05:11 PM)
guys .. is Preacher curls , Dumbbell Bicep curls and Concentration Curls targetting the same group of bicep muscle ?

i'm planning to do 2 or 3 exercises on bicep( 6x6 ) for strength training.
currently having Hammer curls on the list . wanted to add 2more exercises but different variations, any feedbacks ... ?
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er. if i am not mistaken, you only have one bicep muscle ?
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QUOTE(chewinggum @ Dec 9 2010, 05:11 PM)
guys .. is Preacher curls , Dumbbell Bicep curls and Concentration Curls targetting the same group of bicep muscle ?

i'm planning to do 2 or 3 exercises on bicep( 6x6 ) for strength training.
currently having Hammer curls on the list . wanted to add 2more exercises but different variations, any feedbacks ... ?
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yes, those 3 hit arnd the same muscle.
good, hammer curls is a good addition.

more:
Rev grip cable curls/rev grip EZ bar curls and i dunno whats that name... that u twist ur wrist during the movement... zottman curl? something like that....

shiloong7081, i believe he wants to hit the 2 heads of the biceps for a more full look.
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post Dec 9 2010, 07:36 PM

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different section of the bicep . read this somewhere directed from google :S

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