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post Apr 14 2010, 09:51 PM, updated 16y ago

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My 2nd try and this time I felt this might be it's limit hmm.gif Not sure if it still able to climb higher as I hit more obstacles this time doh.gif .

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Reviews on Other Websites:

Lenovo Y460 Review on NotebookReview
Lenovo Y460 Review on ComputerShopper
Lenovo Y460 Review on LaptopMag
ATI Mobility HD 5650 vs nVidia GT335M
[Simplified Chinese] Reviews & 1st impression for Y460/Y560
Heat Issues on Y460/Y560 Discuss! (China Website)

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post Apr 14 2010, 10:01 PM

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nice review....looking forward for more... happy.gif
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yay yay...nice review...waiting to see more! biggrin.gif
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post Apr 14 2010, 10:31 PM

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I am looking forward to your more detailed review regarding temperature of processor and GPU


Added on April 14, 2010, 10:34 pmoh yea....
can you enlighten me whether the VT-X is disabled in lenovo Y460 by default and there is no way to enable it in bios?!

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post Apr 14 2010, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(gstoh @ Apr 14 2010, 10:31 PM)
I am looking forward to your more detailed review regarding temperature of processor and GPU


Added on April 14, 2010, 10:34 pmoh yea....
can you enlighten me whether the VT-X is disabled in lenovo Y460 by default and there is no way to enable it in bios?!
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Yes, VT is disabled by default but you can enable it. It's been answered at NBR for quite sometime.
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post Apr 14 2010, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 14 2010, 10:53 PM)
Yes, VT is disabled by default but you can enable it. It's been answered at NBR for quite sometime.
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33C is quite cool, did you use cooler pad?
is the temperature consistent for several hours?
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post Apr 15 2010, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(gstoh @ Apr 14 2010, 11:58 PM)
33C is quite cool, did you use cooler pad? 
is the temperature consistent for several hours?
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Consistency doesn't exist on measuring temperature especially on a PC/laptop. I've seen the temp averaging 36-38C with office work on Intel GMA. For ATI I didn't have more time but it seems there's not much huge difference, around 40-43C with office work I should say but will further test tomorrow. At 1st when using default OS, I did use coolerpad, but I didn't turn it on after I finished install new OS just to see how the heat reacts.
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nice one... did you test on switch on ATi and put your lappy to idle or photoshoping few hour?? see would it rise the temp??
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a couple of photos and so the benchmark screenshot along with review doesnt hurt i guess.. should have reserve few post at the first page. looking forward.

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PCH is the one hot in this laptop. Dunno how to cool it. doh.gif doh.gif

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just bought one from pc fair... posting from this baby... but yeah, the heat is quite annoying... my inspiron 6000 is much more cooler than this... i'm surprised that there's no cd included in the package...
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try a fresh windows reinstall with all the essential drivers and app back? hmm.. as the TS said so.. hmm..
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Apr 17 2010, 10:05 PM)
just bought one from pc fair... posting from this baby... but yeah, the heat is quite annoying... my inspiron 6000 is much more cooler than this... i'm surprised that there's no cd included in the package...
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yup2...just bought mine at pc fair today as well..doesnt come with any cds...had to make own recovery cds...but if i dont make one?! i still can recover my windows to factory by using Lenovo OneKey Recovery key on the laptop rite?! correct me if im wrong..


Added on April 17, 2010, 10:41 pmand the D (LENOVO) partition is for recovery rite?! can i still use the partition for saving some files??!

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QUOTE(wztech @ Apr 17 2010, 10:25 PM)
yup2...just bought mine at pc fair today as well..doesnt come with any cds...had to make own recovery cds...but if i dont make one?! i still can recover my windows to factory by using Lenovo OneKey Recovery key on the laptop rite?! correct me if im wrong..


Added on April 17, 2010, 10:41 pmand the D (LENOVO) partition is for recovery rite?! can i still use the partition for saving some files??!
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yes u can format with the one key recovery even without cd. as for the D drive, better dont mess with it coz it stores the backup files for recovery. the d drive only consumed small portion of hdd space, why bother keep files there? btw, how much u bought from pc fair?

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hm...no CD? this is bad leh since i love to reformat @@
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u can choose to format either with CD or the hidden partition. u need to burn by your own if u want to keep a recovery cd
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QUOTE(synz @ Apr 17 2010, 11:14 PM)
u can choose to format either with CD or the hidden partition. u need to burn by your own if u want to keep a recovery cd
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reformat by using either cd or even the onekey recovery software will make it go back to factory settings will all those lenovo junks or can fully clean reformat??
btw..i bought it for rm3530...with free carrying bag...
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QUOTE(wztech @ Apr 17 2010, 10:25 PM)
yup2...just bought mine at pc fair today as well..doesnt come with any cds...had to make own recovery cds...but if i dont make one?! i still can recover my windows to factory by using Lenovo OneKey Recovery key on the laptop rite?! correct me if im wrong..


Added on April 17, 2010, 10:41 pmand the D (LENOVO) partition is for recovery rite?! can i still use the partition for saving some files??!
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the partition D which by the name Lenovo is just a standard partition with drivers in it so you can delete it if you want. Just make sure you have backup those files 1st. Recovery partition is hidden on My Computer unless you go under disk management to check it out, Hope that helps smile.gif . The OneKey Recovery button does help you do the recovery but the thumbs down part is that if you can't login your windows because of partition corrupt, windows system file corrupt, RAW windows partition etc, you still need to do it the usual way by installing an OS then install the OneKey Recovery to do the recovery shakehead.gif .

EDIT:I'm finding a way to re-assign my partition since you can't create another partition except under Extended Partition. Will try to use Linux mostly, hmmm hmm.gif

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ohh...now understand already..so troublesome laaa like this.

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sigh...mahuan.

no CD sian d....but also easy for me...terus wait asus liao
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QUOTE(wztech @ Apr 17 2010, 11:44 PM)
reformat by using either cd or even the onekey recovery software will make it go back to factory settings will all those lenovo junks or can fully clean reformat??
btw..i bought it for rm3530...with free carrying bag...
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factory setting comes with all those preloaded software as well. unless u clear ALL of them and re-create a backup image then that might be your "fully clean reformat"

again, dont flash or touch the current bios, leave it as it is
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i wasted 2 pieces of dvd creating the recovery files when the program suddenly failed almost at the end of finalizing disc 2 of 3 =.=" i dun think i will keep the junks, will do a clean format and repartition everything. these things will just get outdated in time and i dun think u guys use outdated stuffs either...

btw, i got mine for 3550 with installment (with the default phone free gift only)...
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Apr 18 2010, 12:31 AM)
i wasted 2 pieces of dvd creating the recovery files when the program suddenly failed almost at the end of finalizing disc 2 of 3 =.=" i dun think i will keep the junks, will do a clean format and repartition everything. these things will just get outdated in time and i dun think u guys use outdated stuffs either...

btw, i got mine for 3550 with installment (with the default phone free gift only)...
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carrying bag?? dont get?
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how about the drivers? if the lenovo junks cleared, the touch key still working?
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If you're using normal DVDRs that might affect the outcome. Try use branded ones like Mitsubishi, Imation, or Sony.
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So, how is the heat for this laptop?? Reasonable?? or just plain hot sweat.gif..need some feedback as my friend want to get one smile.gif
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QUOTE(synz @ Apr 18 2010, 12:35 AM)
how about the drivers? if the lenovo junks cleared, the touch key still working?
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The touch recovery system should work like this: press recovery button ----> 3 options available, System Backup, System Recovery and Creative Recovery Disc ----> select system recovery -----> reboot system into recovery mode which is inside the OEM recovery partition, if you've re-format/Clean/Delete your HDD, then you'll get an error during rebooting system since recovery partition is gone.


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So, how is the heat for this laptop?? Reasonable?? or just plain hot sweat.gif..need some feedback as my friend want to get one smile.gif
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Will answer some of your questions based on my observation. In a room with air circulation with fan only, heat on CPU will be ave 49-52C, with ATI GPU ave 52-54C during idle, heat is there but not HOT. Will get more into that later Monday/Tuesday smile.gif

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QUOTE(miahahaha @ Apr 18 2010, 12:38 AM)
So, how is the heat for this laptop?? Reasonable?? or just plain hot sweat.gif..need some feedback as my friend want to get one smile.gif
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i went gaming CODMW2 for 2 hours...then lappy started generating heat already..cant even touch the left heat sink...so damn hot...cpu temp went on till 82'c...quit the game...switch back to intel gpu...few minutes then cool down to 40'c++ already..

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QUOTE(wztech @ Apr 18 2010, 12:49 AM)
i went gaming CODMW2 for 2 hours...then lappy started generating heat already..cant even touch the right heat sink...so damn hot...
quite reasonable laa i think.
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right?? or left tongue.gif ??

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right?? or left  tongue.gif ??
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left..
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how about the touch key like volume and one click theatre without the software?

when first use the C: (windows) partition is about 400+GB right, let say i shrink it into 200GB and another 200GB(E:) to store files. and im going to reformat, will the system format the E: as well? how they know which is the target partition to install? and how to create partition during installation? must boot with CD?

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QUOTE(wztech @ Apr 18 2010, 12:34 AM)
carrying bag?? dont get?
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yeah, with the bag as well... btw, good choice bro (... so far la), i've been eyeing for a laptop for quite some time. from c2d to i7, from i7 to i5, from dell ati 4000 series to 5000 (still at 5470), from i5-520m to i5-540m, and lastly i gave up waiting for sxps to refresh their gpus... but i also know with this spec, they won't settle if without chopping us customers 4.5k at least...

QUOTE(synz @ Apr 18 2010, 12:35 AM)
how about the drivers? if the lenovo junks cleared, the touch key still working?
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i'm not sure... it's a risk though... anyone have any idea?

QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 18 2010, 12:35 AM)
If you're using normal DVDRs that might affect the outcome. Try use branded ones like Mitsubishi, Imation, or Sony.
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did u managed to create the recovery discs?

QUOTE(miahahaha @ Apr 18 2010, 12:38 AM)
So, how is the heat for this laptop?? Reasonable?? or just plain hot sweat.gif..need some feedback as my friend want to get one smile.gif
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the heat is the 1st thing i notice when i on the notebook for the first time. it's very noticeable compared to my old buddy. but then again, heat is not a problem to me because i don't buy notebook for the coolness. it is supposed to do what it is meant to do (that is to be your working slave), so don't need to go cracking your head over it.

QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 18 2010, 12:43 AM)
The touch recovery system should work like this: press recovery button ----> 3 options available, System Backup, System Recovery and Creative Recovery Disc ----> select system recovery -----> reboot system into recovery mode which is inside the OEM recovery partition, if you've re-format/Clean/Delete your HDD, then you'll get an error during rebooting system since recovery partition is gone.
did you get that error before?

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QUOTE(synz @ Apr 18 2010, 12:54 AM)
how about the touch key like volume and one click theatre without the software?

when first use the C: (windows) partition is about 400+GB right, let say i shrink it into 200GB and another 200GB(E:) to store files. and im going to reformat, will the system format the E: as well? how they know which is the target partition to install? and how to create partition during installation? must boot with CD?
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Good question. 1st of all, your scenario won't apply because you only can have 3 primary partitions in your HDD, which your C:, OEM partition, and System Reserved already occupied those. If you want to create more than 3 partitions, you'll have to create an Extended partition where you can add a few more inside which in Y460's case, it's the D: and has 30+GB only....... shakehead.gif ( trying my way to re-assign using linux)

I haven't really tried the OneKey recovery system so I can't confirm if it'll delete your E: or not, but most of the recovery system will target C: as it's the boot system. Let us know if you did it though nod.gif
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there's an additional partition about 200MB (if u check in disk management). i wonder whats that?


Added on April 18, 2010, 1:12 am
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Good question. 1st of all, your scenario won't apply because you only can have 3 primary partitions in your HDD, which your C:, OEM partition, and System Reserved already occupied those. If you want to create more than 3 partitions, you'll have to create an Extended partition where you can add a few more inside which in Y460's case, it's the D: and has 30+GB only.......  shakehead.gif ( trying my way to re-assign using linux)

I haven't really tried the OneKey recovery system so I can't confirm if it'll delete your E: or not, but most of the recovery system will target C: as it's the boot system. Let us know if you did it though nod.gif
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actually i have C: (windows), D: (recovery) and E: (files) with me now. so i wonder if next time i format will the recovery system set back to like 400GB for C: and all my files in E: gone with the wind

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QUOTE(leng2 @ Apr 18 2010, 01:00 AM)
yeah, with the bag as well... btw, good choice bro (... so far la), i've been eyeing for a laptop for quite some time. from c2d to i7, from i7 to i5, from dell ati 4000 series to 5000 (still at 5470), from i5-520m to i5-540m, and lastly i gave up waiting for sxps to refresh their gpus... but i also know with this spec, they won't settle if without chopping us customers 4.5k at least...
i'm not sure... it's a risk though... anyone have any idea?
did u managed to create the recovery discs?
the heat is the 1st thing i notice when i on the notebook for the first time. it's very noticeable compared to my old buddy. but then again, heat is not a problem to me because i don't buy notebook for the coolness. it is supposed to do what it is meant to do (that is to be your working slave), so don't need to go cracking your head over it.
did you get that error before?
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I cloned my drive on my ext. HDD. I want fast solutions XD which is why I didn't burn the CDs. I got a few errors especially on HP but some of those are because of HDD faulty i.e. recovery partition corrupted also. If possible, try recover your system and see how it goes. Sometimes you do need to sacrifice to get your answer tongue.gif .
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i bought the y460 rm3510 cash with dect phone and bag = ='''

for partition, this is how i do
i jus extend the 100mb system reserved to 200gb and the rest of space be another partition..
and system recovery partition and driver partition are remained untouched.


i stress the system using 4 super pi simultaneous 4mb calculation
the cpu shoot up to 80C easily
but gaming test, streefighter 4 all at high setting except no AA the FPS is easily more than 60fps, but the cpu and gpu temp shoo up to 70+C

i feel it is reasonable.. since 4820tg also can shoot up to 70C when gaming... jus that you cannot feel the heat from the laptop surface of 4820tg(according to china reviews)
but in y460 you can feel the heat from laptop palm rest
in other words. the temp on laptop surface is higher than 4820tg but internal temp is almost same since same hardware as 4820tg


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How come your ram capacity around 2GB+ only?

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It should be normal for 14" chassis notebooks i guess.. hmm..
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Apr 18 2010, 04:32 AM)
How come your ram capacity around 2GB+ only?

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Another Lenovo Y460 user reporting in. Have been using it for almost 2 weeks.

There's a bit of a catch to the OKR (One key recovery) system in that it will only work if you did not change the partition size of your boot drive (by default the C drive). If you do then the OKR is useless. You can delete all Lenovo pre-installed software and the OKR will still work. But if you recover your system this way then it will return the system to factory default together will all the junks in it.

A better way will be to install the OKR software and use it to backup the system in the current state (ie. after all those junks have been removed) and use the DVDs created to recover your system. Hope this helps smile.gif

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wow... all getting cheaper prices than me =.="

anyway, about the notebook... i don't really like the low quality build of the keyboard... doesn't feel solid. the demo unit at pc fair, i press 1 button, the keyboard is like sunken...
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QUOTE(boon21 @ Apr 18 2010, 10:42 AM)
Another Lenovo Y460 user reporting in. Have been using it for almost 2 weeks.

There's a bit of a catch to the OKR (One key recovery) system in that it will only work if you did not change the partition size of your boot drive (by default the C drive). If you do then the OKR is useless. You can delete all Lenovo pre-installed software and the OKR will still work. But if you recover your system this way then it will return the system to factory default together will all the junks in it.

A better way will be to install the OKR software and use it to backup the system in the current state (ie. after all those junks have been removed) and use the DVDs created to recover your system. Hope this helps  smile.gif
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i resized, so how to reformat in future? boot with CD ?

btw, i disabled some of the startup item (those lenovo junks) and now the touch key like volume, one key threatre, power management not working anymore sweat.gif
even enabled back still not working

what is mutesync.exe? and audiodg.exe? (task manager)

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QUOTE(synz @ Apr 18 2010, 05:18 PM)
i resized, so how to reformat in future? boot with CD ?

btw, i disabled some of the startup item (those lenovo junks) and now the touch key like volume, one key threatre, power management not working anymore  sweat.gif
even enabled back still not working

what is mutesync.exe? and audiodg.exe? (task manager)
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i also had uninstalled mutesync..it uses quite alot of resources....but the lappy still works fine...
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the mutesync is run by which application? and what's the usage?
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the mutesync is run by which application? and what's the usage?
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im also dunno....i cant even run the program.... sweat.gif
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Wow, so many bloatware in Y460?? hmm.gif...my guess it would be better to do a clean install...for me, the recovery partition is not that important as i would also do a recovery for myself with ghost tongue.gif...


Added on April 18, 2010, 5:47 pmSo, the heat still manageable?? I guess must be like S42 where the heat is just bearable while playing games hmm.gif

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i checked the lenovo support forum and they really said that.. if the volume size is amended, one key recovery will not work. let say in future the boot drive infected with virus and want to reformat, where the hell can we save important files? usually ppl store files in different partition so that can safely reformat the windows partition right.

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QUOTE(synz @ Apr 18 2010, 05:49 PM)
i checked the lenovo support forum and they really said that.. if the volume size is amended, one key recovery will not work. let say in future the boot drive infected with virus and want to reformat, where the hell can we save important files? usually ppl store files in different partition so that can safely reformat the windows partition right.
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Well, the same case with my desktop from HP, got one recovery key option too but its useless after i created another partition, the recovery cannot work sweat.gif...
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is there any way to download the windows 7 installation file from microsoft and install with the genuine oem key? the drivers that come with recovery partition or cd will outdate also later
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Here's the legal way to obtain Windows 7:

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is this Y460 come with any window XP package instead of window 7

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QUOTE(calvenbj @ Apr 18 2010, 10:40 PM)
is this Y460 come with any window XP package instead of window 7

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Better just use Windows 7.. U might lose important functionality.. smile.gif Hybrid Switchable Graphics for instance..
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Hi guys,

please help, i am in this situation my budget max is 3200 but if necessary it can go to 3600, and i am really considering buying this laptop because of its processor and graphic card. the thing is before i knew of this laptop i was considering Asus a42jr with i5 520, and hd 5470. and as u all know "i guess" its already out of stock, i went to the pc fair and they already changed the graphic card with outdated one, one guy told me better wait till next week,when the new stock comes in but he gave me less than 30% of it being included in the stock.

so if u compare the two definitely lenovo wins, but after reading ur comments regarding the heating problem i am discouraged.

Asus

advantages:

- price will not jump 3200 if its i5 520" if it comes any time soon i hope"
- warranty 2 years international " important since i am not a local"

disadvantages:

- lower spec compared to lenovo

i think the way i explained it, it seems i already know what i should get " lenovo" but i will appreciate it if u guys advice me

questions:

- how much can i get the lenovo for as i read the cheapest was 3510 rm .....what do u think?

- why not buy lenovo?

thx in advance smile.gif

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thanks for info bro

but i need xp for some business aplication ... cus tat business software does not work well with window vista and window 7..
no choice to scarified a bit




if come with free dos? the package price also same ?


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QUOTE(calvenbj @ Apr 19 2010, 12:14 PM)
thanks for info bro

but i need xp for some business  aplication ... cus tat business software does not work well with window vista and window 7..
no choice to scarified a bit


if come with free dos? the package price also same ?
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QUOTE(rashad @ Apr 19 2010, 12:44 AM)
Hi guys,

please help, i am in this situation my budget max is 3200 but if necessary it can go to 3600, and i am really considering buying this laptop because of its processor and graphic card. the thing is before i knew of this laptop i was considering Asus a42jr  with i5 520, and hd 5470. and as u all know "i guess" its already out of stock, i went to the pc fair and they already changed the graphic card with outdated one, one guy told me better wait till next week,when the new stock comes in but he gave me less than 30% of it being included in the stock.

so if u compare the two definitely lenovo wins, but after reading ur comments regarding the heating problem i am discouraged.

Asus

advantages:

- price will not jump 3200 if its i5 520" if it comes any time soon i hope"
- warranty 2 years international " important since i am not a local"

disadvantages:

- lower spec compared to lenovo

i think the way i explained it, it seems i already know what i should get " lenovo" but i will appreciate it if u guys advice me

questions:

- how much can i get the lenovo for as i read the cheapest was 3510 rm .....what do u think?

- why not buy lenovo?

thx in advance smile.gif
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you can always go for lower spec of y460 which is RM3299 RRP the difference is only processor ..which uses lower end i5 430
i got 3510 because i COD.. if you manage to COD i am sure u can get that price too
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QUOTE(synz @ Apr 18 2010, 05:18 PM)
i resized, so how to reformat in future? boot with CD ?

btw, i disabled some of the startup item (those lenovo junks) and now the touch key like volume, one key threatre, power management not working anymore  sweat.gif
even enabled back still not working

what is mutesync.exe? and audiodg.exe? (task manager)
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My apologies for taking so long to reply,

As far as I have tested out you can reinstall windows without messing around with C Drive's size and OKR will still works. To make OKR work again if you've resize C Drive (assuming you've left the hidden partition as well as the D drive intact) then remove all the partitions you make on C and OKR should work again.

If all else fail, then you'll probably need to use another method of creating your system image for backup purposes.

If I'm not mistaken both mutesync.exe and audiodg.exe are used by the touch control buttons for the audio control on the laptop. Remove or disable them and the buttons will fail to function. Note that mutesync is only provided on the drivers in the D drive and cannot be downloaded from Lenovo's support page.

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QUOTE(gstoh @ Apr 19 2010, 05:30 PM)
you can always go for lower spec of y460 which is RM3299 RRP the difference is only processor ..which uses lower end i5 430
i got 3510 because i COD.. if you manage to COD i am sure u can get that price too
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tyvm for info smile.gif, but i just bought it with i5 540 / 4g ram for 3599 including bag plus 8 gifts. that's the best price i could get in lowyat after doing the whole survey tour, u

can get it without the gifts for 3574 but in another shop.

also if anyone interested to buy the same model but with i5 430 including 4 g ram the best price you can get including the gifts is 3471 rm

( basic price 3299 + gifts) + 172 rm (2 g ram) ........ all together = 3471 rm,

with just 2 g ram you can get it for 3299 rm

good luck to anyone interested. by the way the shop is Jayacom information sdn.bhd (JCI) last floor.


to tell you the truth the difference between i5 430 and 540 does matter for me, plus its only 129 rm extra. in the long term it will make a difference tongue.gif

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QUOTE(rashad @ Apr 19 2010, 08:22 PM)
tyvm for info smile.gif, but i just bought it with i5 540 / 4g ram  for 3599 including bag plus 8 gifts. that's the best price i could get in lowyat after doing the whole survey tour, u

can get it without the gifts for 3574 but in another shop.

also if anyone interested to buy the same model but with i5 430 including 4 g ram the best price you can get including the gifts is 3471 rm

( basic price 3299 + gifts) + 172 rm (2 g ram) ........ all together = 3471 rm,

with  just 2 g ram you can get it for 3299 rm

good luck to anyone interested. by the way the shop is Jayacom information sdn.bhd (JCI) last floor.
to tell you the truth the difference between i5 430 and 540 does matter for me, plus its only 129 rm extra. in the long term it will make a difference tongue.gif
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Gratz on your purchase smile.gif. Do let us know too if you're having the same problem when you operate it the 1st time with more heat than usual. I'll be posting some results this midnight if possible.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 19 2010, 09:28 PM)
Gratz on your purchase smile.gif. Do let us know too if you're having the same problem when you operate it the 1st time with more heat than usual. I'll be posting some results this midnight if possible.
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thx alot smile.gif, its true the first time i started it up like 5 mins and u can feel the heat, haven't tested the heat using speedfan yet. i am accustomed to heat by now, i

have another laptop 17 inch hp pavilion dv9315 that laptop is the worst laptop in terms of heating that i have encountered with, this model was recalled from market i think

before 1 year for the same issue " heat" , and they were offering a replacement of the laptop but unlucky me i didn't know about it. because of the heat i had to replace

the graphic card which is Geforce go 6150 128 mb, the processor was amd turion 64 x2 tl-52. and in order to replace the card from hp i had to pay around 700+ rm but i

did it in another shop for 300 rm ( that time didn't have warranty), that's why i was reluctant to buy lenovo when u guys mentioned the heat issue but i think there is no

comparison with hp.

with hp ----------------GPU will shoot up to 90 C,

Cpu to 75+ C seriously i could cook an egg on it from heat shocking.gif

another thing due to heat one of my ram slots isn't working rclxub.gif so you can see the laptop is in death stage, but the 17 inch lcd is something u got to love, really cool

when watching a movie.

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My apologies for taking so long to reply,

As far as I have tested out you can reinstall windows without messing around with C Drive's size and OKR will still works. To make OKR work again if you've resize C Drive (assuming you've left the hidden partition as well as the D drive intact) then remove all the partitions you make on C and OKR should work again.

If all else fail, then you'll probably need to use another method of creating your system image for backup purposes.

If I'm not mistaken both mutesync.exe and audiodg.exe are used by the touch control buttons for the audio control on the laptop. Remove or disable them and the buttons will fail to function. Note that mutesync is only provided on the drivers in the D drive and cannot be downloaded from Lenovo's support page.
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can we clean install windows without a reformat??
and i dont have both mutesync.exe and audiodg.exe but the touch control button still works....i thought the touch control is operated by onetouch support.exe??
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Just posted a few pics on 1st post. Will continue posting tomorrow smile.gif.
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great review smile.gif

Hows the sound on this lappy? does the JBL speakers perform good enough?

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thx cool review for whole day rclxms.gif


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great review smile.gif

Hows the sound on this lappy? does the JBL speakers perform good enough?

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great review smile.gif

Hows the sound on this lappy? does the JBL speakers perform good enough?

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Need to move this thread in Notebook Specific Discussion...that's where this should be tongue.gif...

@jotaro
Nice review and also, just read your temp reading on 1st post...seems like the temp is quite nice for a 14" and also, wondering if we stress out the CPU/GPU will the temp go beyond 90C hmm.gif
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Thank you. I'm not sure which program is good on stressing CPU&GPU, mind letting me know so I can try it for 5 hours straight(Don't wanna stress too much lol)
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Can try this to stress your GPU...

http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/


Added on April 20, 2010, 9:42 amFor CPU stresstest,

http://downloads.guru3d.com/OCCT-%28OverCl...nload-1880.html

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guys... is there any transparent skin protector for our model? something like the amourone or ezstick skins. the glossy body is very very prone for scratches...

btw, i pull off all the promotional stickers on the keypad... very fugly previously and now it looks as good as you see in the websites smile.gif
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Apr 20 2010, 12:16 PM)
guys... is there any transparent skin protector for our model? something like the amourone or ezstick skins. the glossy body is very very prone for scratches...

btw, i pull off all the promotional stickers on the keypad... very fugly previously and now it looks as good as you see in the websites smile.gif
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check this i think there is rclxms.gif . http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/903189/+1040
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QUOTE(rashad @ Apr 20 2010, 12:36 PM)
check this i think there is  rclxms.gifhttp://forum.lowyat.net/topic/903189/+1040
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i asked him in the thread, he dun have y460 whole set... sad.gif
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Post up some pics of your unit bro... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 14 2010, 09:51 PM)
Some of the tests that I ran these few days:

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Today was doing a simple test which is in my room with fan only. Just took a screenshot and here it is:
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I opened a 720p video and let it run in the background whole day with Intel GC on. The temp didn't increase much during the afternoon with warm air in my room.

NOTE:Was playing SF4 on my 22 inch LCD(16:10) with native resolution setting w/ no AA but others high setting. I don't feel any lag at all which is quite impressed(GPU stayed ave 70C most of my gaming time) smile.gif. Other results will post tomorrow.
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you manage to get that low temp while running hd video using intel gfx?! so impressive
i cant even to reach that = =
do you use cooler pad ?


Added on April 20, 2010, 2:56 pmlet me share one thing about 460, it has a light sensor for automatically adjusting LCD brightness
the sensor is located at right side of wireless indicator. it is a small sensor
if you ever cover the sensor... the brightness will be reduced automatically =D

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QUOTE(wztech @ Apr 19 2010, 10:39 PM)
can we clean install windows without a reformat??
and i dont have both mutesync.exe and audiodg.exe but the touch control button still works....i thought the touch control is operated by onetouch support.exe??
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Yes, you can. Insert your own win CD/DVD and select custom installation and select the C drive as the installation partition instead of selecting the upgrade option. If you do it this way your previous installation files is assessable via a folder called Windows.old (you can access the files only but you cannot boot into your previous OS).

Note: You can also choose to format C and install your new OS there. Either way OKR should still remain functional. Please be aware that if you restore your system using OKR it's still going to return to factory default.

Funny, I don't have onetouch support.exe but I do have OnekeySupport.exe. I also have mutesynce.exe but not audiodg.exe. (Note my version of OS is a self installed version and not the one from Levono's factory default).
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QUOTE(boon21 @ Apr 20 2010, 07:27 PM)
Yes, you can. Insert your own win CD/DVD and select custom installation and select the C drive as the installation partition instead of selecting the upgrade option. If you do it this way your previous installation files is assessable via a folder called Windows.old (you can access the files only but you cannot boot into your previous OS).

Note: You can also choose to format C and install your new OS there. Either way OKR should still remain functional. Please be aware that if you restore your system using OKR it's still going to return to factory default.

Funny, I don't have onetouch support.exe but I do have OnekeySupport.exe. I also have mutesynce.exe but not audiodg.exe. (Note my version of OS is a self installed version and not the one from Levono's factory default).
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isnt a reformat of C drive will also reformat and deleted the hidden partiton for the OKR??
and i just found that the touch sensitive control key is operated by the lenovo power management...for those whose the touch control doesnt working...try reinstalling the lenovo power management and remember to checked the 'utility' when reinstalling...
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You still can use XP under windows 7, by getting a Windows 7 Professional/Ultimate and use XP mode.
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hi bro..
thanks for your info..

tat XP mode is switchabe during start up or switchable under window 7 mode..

will this crash cus window 7 is 64 bit and window xp mode is 32 bit?

can i know more on this details.. for my info. window 7 pro is not standard package right....

thank bro..
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QUOTE(boon21 @ Apr 19 2010, 07:08 PM)
My apologies for taking so long to reply,

As far as I have tested out you can reinstall windows without messing around with C Drive's size and OKR will still works. To make OKR work again if you've resize C Drive (assuming you've left the hidden partition as well as the D drive intact) then remove all the partitions you make on C and OKR should work again.

If all else fail, then you'll probably need to use another method of creating your system image for backup purposes.

If I'm not mistaken both mutesync.exe and audiodg.exe are used by the touch control buttons for the audio control on the laptop. Remove or disable them and the buttons will fail to function. Note that mutesync is only provided on the drivers in the D drive and cannot be downloaded from Lenovo's support page.
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so it means OKR will only works if i don't create any new partition from C: ??

if created, need to merge them back to original size?

if i have few partitions and insist to use OKR what will happen? no option to install in C: only while leaving other new partitions untouched?

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y460 - the fin is copper not the aluminium as the normal cooling system, it means it has better cooling system than normal laptop

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simply run the windows rating and put ur finger near the hole

u can feel like boiling water biggrin.gif
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Agreed w bro synz
The laptop is very hot when stress. Even idle, also not so comfortable w the heat. doh.gif

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simply run the windows rating and put ur finger near the hole

u can feel like boiling water biggrin.gif
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haha this is due the the good heat dissipation of copper. the heat is easily transfered to the air thats why you can feel the very hot air coming out from the air vent! tongue.gif
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Wow, using copper instead of aluminum, must be hot...well some say the heat for Y460 is kinda annoying, just want to know if the heat kinda a annoyance for the users here??

But from jotaro test, seems like the heat is considerably good, well if compare to my S42 laugh.gif...
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that mean no heat problem for this model?
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Apr 20 2010, 11:40 PM)
Agreed w bro synz
The laptop is very hot when stress. Even idle, also not so comfortable w the heat. doh.gif

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I still don't quite understand why you guys having these issue hmm.gif . Do you switch on ATI GC all the time? If you're on Intel GMA, what's the idle temp? If it's more than 55C on GMA, then you must have a lot of background apps running.

This is my temp just now.
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I currently have 84 processes running and the temp stay there most of the time. If more than 55C, yea it become warm. starting 65C, you'll feel the hot air pushing out from the vent.
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that mean no heat problem for this model?
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however after comparing it with my friends's laptops, i will say it is normal for the mid-high end laptop to stress at 80+C , this temp is almost same as the deviltech DTX with 5650 when stressing.

for idle temp, below 60C is considered normal for notebook with dedicated gpu, include y460
i have tested the temp on my friend inspiron with 8400m gs, asus with ati 3470, benq with 8600m gs, their cpu temp is also roughly at that range

so judge yourself, if you are still not convinced, then you can google other laptop with same equivalent spec and see their temp when it is under stress test.
of course you might found the temp might be lower thany 460, this might be due to environment factors, such as the weather which is cooler in china, and western countries.
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You try to check on PCH temperature. The temp will freak u out. tongue.gif laugh.gificon_rolleyes.gif

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You try to check on PCH temperature. The temp will freak u out. tongue.gif laugh.gificon_rolleyes.gif

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that is due to the passive cooling i assume
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QUOTE(gstoh @ Apr 21 2010, 09:47 AM)
that is due to the passive cooling i assume
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Most probably. That is why I only open the laptop in aircond environment. sweat.gif sweat.gif

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So, still got quite a problem with the cooling?? Using any cooler pad does any different??
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Most probably. That is why I only open the laptop in aircond environment.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

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if not mistaken that is the south bridge of HM55, it is really hot
if what i say is true, then i guess all the laptop with HM55 will also get the same temp as y460


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So, still got quite a problem with the cooling?? Using any cooler pad does any different??
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that is not really a problem, if that is a problem to you, then i think alot laptop is not suitable for you now ,since a lot laptops now are using HM55 chipset

i have tried with and without cooling pad, it does not make any different to my laptop, even got, also a few degrees
btw, the cooling pad i use is cheap cheap , only less than rm10 i think, but i got it free.
perhaps the expensive cooling pad will help

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No difference for me. doh.gif

QUOTE(gstoh @ Apr 21 2010, 09:52 AM)
if not mistaken that is the south bridge of HM55, it is really hot
if what i say is true, then i guess all the laptop with HM55 will also get the same temp as y460
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Ya. We can assume that way. But we need to get the H55 alike laptop to compare w for the real comparison. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Apr 21 2010, 09:49 AM)
Most probably. That is why I only open the laptop in aircond environment.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

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No difference for me. doh.gif
Ya. We can assume that way. But we need to get the H55 alike laptop to compare w for the real comparison. hmm.gif

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Which temp your are referring to bro?

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How come your Windows come w Ultimate "flavour" one? tongue.gif tongue.gif

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if not mistaken that is the south bridge of HM55, it is really hot
if what i say is true, then i guess all the laptop with HM55 will also get the same temp as y460
The SB on Y460/4820TG is siting far apart from CPU/GPU so even it's heated up, I don't think it'll do more than 60C unless you're in a non air circulated room. The main heat generates still remain on the CPU/GPU combo.

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 21 2010, 11:54 AM)
I wanted to use Ultimate/Professional because of XP mode. That's why I did a clean installation w/o touching the recovery partition and D:. Flavor?? what kind?? smile.gif


Added on April 21, 2010, 11:58 am

The SB on Y460/4820TG is siting far apart from CPU/GPU so even it's heated up, I don't think it'll do more than 60C unless you're in a non air circulated room. The main heat generates still remain on the CPU/GPU combo.
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Can you show a screenshot of yours and where it situated on everest? I do have it installed but I'm more rely on HW monitor & GPU-Z. smile.gif
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QUOTE(gstoh @ Apr 14 2010, 11:58 PM)
33C is quite cool, did you use cooler pad? 
is the temperature consistent for several hours?
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That was in the air-conditioned environment (with unknown temp setting). Hard to judge the PC based on the info given.

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Can you show a screenshot of yours and where it situated on everest? I do have it installed but I'm more rely on HW monitor & GPU-Z. smile.gif
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isnt a reformat of C drive will also reformat and deleted the hidden partiton for the OKR??
and i just found that the touch sensitive control key is operated by the lenovo power management...for those whose the touch control doesnt working...try reinstalling the lenovo power management and remember to checked the 'utility' when reinstalling...
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No, the hidden partition is another partition by itself and drive D contains the backup drivers. Your C Drive (the largest partition) is where the OS is installed. Actually Lenovo power management only works for the power management function (you can remove it and use win 7's default power settings and the rest of the touch controls should still work). The OneKey Theater II, mute and audio touch controls have their own drivers.

The only reason why that would be the case would be if these drivers share some common files but I've not tested that out before.

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so it means OKR will only works if i don't create any new partition from C: ??


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if created, need to merge them back to original size?


Yes, it must be back to it's original size for OKR to work and do note that you'll need the hidden partition intact as well.

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if i have few partitions and insist to use OKR what will happen? no option to install in C: only while leaving other new partitions untouched?


OKR will cause an error (it might hang while attempting to restore to factory default or from another backup source) when you attempt to use it after you've resize your C drive

Hope this helps clear up the confusion about OKR
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 19 2010, 01:25 PM)
You still can use XP under windows 7, by getting a Windows 7 Professional/Ultimate and use XP mode.
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there are some limitation on it.. especially on those XP software who dealing with 3D graphic and database server communication.. i believe XP mode cant perform well on this virtual XP mode..

thanks


. Is there anybody using WIndow XP only on his/her Y460...thanks
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Hmmm  tongue.gif  Never knew the temp on it is that hot...Will update mine later after I got back home(Laptop still running lol).
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it is considered normal for most of the SB to have high temp according to some forums......but i don't know why.. perhaps due to passive cooling ? unsure.gif
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ok. Now seems everyone is more interested with y460 instead of 4820tg already, can any1 make a comparison between this 2 lappy? Do y460 have good battery life and screen? What's the diffrences of their spec? Do y460 can extend their warranty, any1 have experience with that? Where is their service center in malaysia? Stupid acer makin a stupid move!!!!??? Support lenovo now!!! Please help help....
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QUOTE(bushyboy105 @ Apr 21 2010, 10:20 PM)
ok. Now seems everyone is more interested with y460 instead of 4820tg already, can any1 make a comparison between this 2 lappy? Do y460 have good battery life and screen? What's the diffrences of their spec? Do y460 can extend their warranty, any1 have experience with that? Where is their service center in malaysia? Stupid acer makin a stupid move!!!!??? Support lenovo now!!! Please help help....
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http://mytechnews.info/b/2010/04/acer-time...s-malaysia.html
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QUOTE(wztech @ Apr 21 2010, 10:37 PM)
y460 >>> 4820tg.....y460 comes with ati hd5650....4820tg only comes with ati hd5470...

http://mytechnews.info/b/2010/04/acer-time...s-malaysia.html
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I have extended my warranty to 3 years carry-in. For consumer series laptop they don't offer on-site unless you have thinkpad/business class series laptop. The screen is fine on me, nothing to shout about.

I only can say don't give high hopes on upcoming laptops unless they have already launch. I was thinking about getting N82jv too, but because there's no available unit around KL that I can feel and play with, might as well get what is on the market.
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QUOTE(gstoh @ Apr 21 2010, 10:10 PM)
it is considered normal for most of the SB to have high temp according to some forums......but i don't know why.. perhaps due to passive cooling ? unsure.gif
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My PCH temp for 3 1/2 days tongue.gif. Passive cooling has its own pros and cons. Most of them do able to withstand longer period of high temp but from a lifespan standpoint, it'll shorten for sure.
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My PCH temp for 3 1/2 days tongue.gif. Passive cooling has its own pros and cons. Most of them do able to withstand longer period of high temp but from a lifespan standpoint, it'll shorten for sure.
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will shorten or not perhaps they have designed it to be more robust than ever
can withstand much higher temperature .. who knows ? biggrin.gif or else intel will not release this chipset to the market
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LENOVO Y460 REVIEW - very useful nod.gif
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A form of sarcastic review I would say. The only thing interested me would only be the benchmark. Other than that, it seems like he acts like he knew everything which he screwed up himself in the 1st place on the drivers.
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how to use One Key Recovery to format? I just got my Y460 today, manually uninstalled the bloatware..Was wondering how to use one key recovery. Lol
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 21 2010, 11:35 PM)
I have extended my warranty to 3 years carry-in. For consumer series laptop they don't offer on-site unless you have thinkpad/business class series laptop. The screen is fine on me, nothing to shout about.
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how much for the extended warranty? i also thinking to get it. btw, did you have any skinning on your y460? i think it would get scratchy scratchy if not careful.
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WTA is this warranty including on-site available at shops? Looks worth it.

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After leaving it on for the night, the hdd part gets really warm. My touchpad feels warm too. I've switch to Intel GMA already. Wonder why.

What kind of cooler pad do you guys use? The Y460 seems to have "stands" on each corner of the laptop, which makes it unable to have contact with my cooler master notepal. sleep.gif
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Apr 22 2010, 10:49 AM)
WTA is this warranty including on-site available at shops? Looks worth it.

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QUOTE(zeropulse @ Apr 22 2010, 12:41 PM)
After leaving it on for the night, the hdd part gets really warm. My touchpad feels warm too. I've switch to Intel GMA already. Wonder why.

What kind of cooler pad do you guys use? The Y460 seems to have "stands" on each corner of the laptop, which makes it unable to have contact with my cooler master notepal. sleep.gif
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If possible, do post a screenie on your current temp using everest, CPU-Z or GPU-Z. I can't assume a possible answer if you don't give us a temp reading.

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just to share a china website regarding Y460/Y560
i guess all you want to know about Y460 and Y560 is in the website =D

http://itbbs.pconline.com.cn/notebook/11117096.html

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QUOTE(gstoh @ Apr 22 2010, 03:41 PM)
just to share a china website regarding Y460/Y560
i guess all you want to know about Y460 and Y560 is in the website =D

http://itbbs.pconline.com.cn/notebook/11117096.html
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Thanks rclxms.gif I've added the link on 1st page.


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QUOTE(calvenbj @ Apr 21 2010, 08:23 PM)
after some reading on window 7 XP mode..

there are some limitation on it.. especially on those XP software who dealing with 3D graphic and database server communication.. i believe XP mode cant perform well on this virtual XP mode..

thanks
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Just noticed Y460 support page does provide XP drivers, but not all of it especially on Lenovo's own features software like SlideNav, OneKey Theater/Recovery.

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 22 2010, 01:41 PM)
Please read my post on this page and you'll have your answer.


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If possible, do post a screenie on your current temp using everest, CPU-Z or GPU-Z. I can't assume a possible answer if you don't give us a temp reading.
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I'm just leaving it on and running a few stuffs. Look a the PCH hitting 70..sleep.gif
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I assume you noticed my last screenie does have the same temp as yours. You'll feel a slight warm on upper touchpad area but I'm not bother by it sweat.gif .
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 22 2010, 06:45 PM)
I assume you noticed my last screenie does have the same temp as yours. You'll feel a slight warm on upper touchpad area but I'm not bother by it  sweat.gif .
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Yes, it's a little warm which i'm very surprise abt it. haha. Anyway, how do you format using one key recovery without installng all the bloatware?
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y460 user.. try to force the cpu to run at low freq , 1.3GHz .. and run some game test.. you will see the temperature is same as normal laptop =D
this is what i found, however the game FPS will not really drop,
test it then you will know it! XD

through this setting, you don need worry about heat issue when gaming lol

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i just did a reformat to my y460... reconfiguring the partitions... just a slight problemo... the slidenav don't seem to work even after installing the driver. the rest of it works just fine... but i didn't bother about the onekey recovery though since someone said it wun work without the reserved oem partition.
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Apr 23 2010, 12:18 AM)
i just did a reformat to my y460... reconfiguring the partitions... just a slight problemo... the slidenav don't seem to work even after installing the driver. the rest of it works just fine... but i didn't bother about the onekey recovery though since someone said it wun work without the reserved oem partition.
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u need to install lenovo power management in order for touch key to work
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remember to tick the utility option when installing..
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u need to install lenovo power management in order for touch key to work
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yeah i did... i can see the blinking dots when sliding my fingah across the tab... but nothing happen...
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yeah i did... i can see the blinking dots when sliding my fingah across the tab... but nothing happen...
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you need to install synaptics driver as well if not mistaken smile.gif
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you need to install synaptics driver as well if not mistaken  smile.gif
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yeah, i installed synaptics as well... btw, is it possible if i use the okr for my current "new" setup?
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yeah, i installed synaptics as well... btw, is it possible if i use the okr for my current "new" setup?
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i have used that before, needs about half an hour to complete recovery
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QUOTE(gstoh @ Apr 22 2010, 11:29 PM)
y460 user.. try to force the cpu to run at low freq , 1.3GHz .. and run some game test.. you will see the temperature is same as normal laptop =D
this is what i found, however the game FPS will not really drop,
test it then you will know it! XD

through this setting, you don need worry about heat issue when gaming lol
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You used Lenovo power management to lower/tweak your CPU clock or other software? hmm.gif Don't have free time lately but was planning to go extreme to max out CPU constantly @2.93Ghz w/ OC GPU to crack 3Dmark 06 score(somehow I can't use ATI Tool on my system, it just BSOD after I finished the installation rclxub.gif )
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 23 2010, 11:56 AM)
You used Lenovo power management to lower/tweak your CPU clock or other software?  hmm.gif Don't have free time lately but was planning to go extreme to max out CPU constantly @2.93Ghz w/ OC GPU to crack 3Dmark 06 score(somehow I can't use ATI Tool on my system, it just BSOD after I finished the installation  rclxub.gif )
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try to use latest ati driver maybe can solve the problem

ya i used the lenovo power management to control cpu speed
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does anyone knows whether the DVD drive support burning of double layer dvd or not?

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does anyone knows whether the DVD drive support burning of double layer dvd or not?
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It does. Just make sure don't get those cheap dual layer DVDRs since laptop ODD is sensitive.
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hi guys i have this issue, since i removed the battery i am just using power outlet i configured the power for high performance and set brightness to 100% , i did the same for windows default power settings, but in a frequent basis say after 1 hour or so the screen will dim back and i will see the brightness has been altered ( in the windows default power settings)!

did any one notice that the screen will dim by itself sometimes.
how to fix that ?


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Disable the ALS (Ambient Light Sensor) will do. smile.gif

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 23 2010, 03:07 PM)
It does. Just make sure don't get those cheap dual layer DVDRs since laptop ODD is sensitive.
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Disable the ALS (Ambient Light Sensor) will do. smile.gif

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QUOTE(leng2 @ Apr 23 2010, 12:51 AM)
yeah i did... i can see the blinking dots when sliding my fingah across the tab... but nothing happen...
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Install this: Lenovo SlideNav (File name: IN8STW01WW6.exe).

Note: You cannot find it in Drive D but you can download it from Lenovo's support website.

After installing (it's actually only copying the files to c:\Drivers) go to c:\Drivers\Lenovo SlideNav\Installation and run Installation.exe Then go to c:\Drivers\Lenovo SlideNav\x64 and run SlidebarConfig.exe.

If all goes well you should be able to use the slidenav again.

Hope this helps

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hi guys i have a question i want to create another partition from C by shrinking c in Disk management tool and using that space to make another partion, my question will that effect the recovery key. i know this question was raised before and answered by jotaro 12 but he mentioned using Linux, i don't think u need Linux to do it since windows can.

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QUOTE(rashad @ Apr 23 2010, 11:02 PM)
hi guys i have a question i want to create another partition from C by shrinking c in Disk management tool and using that space to make another partion, my question will that effect the recovery key. i know this question was raised before and answered by jotaro 12 but he mentioned using Linux, i don't think u need Linux to do it since windows can.
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It should not affect the os recovery partition.
However, to play safe, clone your os recovery partition before you resize & create a new partition.
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QUOTE(rashad @ Apr 23 2010, 11:02 PM)
hi guys i have a question i want to create another partition from C by shrinking c in Disk management tool and using that space to make another partion, my question will that effect the recovery key. i know this question was raised before and answered by jotaro 12 but he mentioned using Linux, i don't think u need Linux to do it since windows can.
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The answer is no effect for the recovery key and no again for creating a new primary partition because you already have System Reserved, C: and Recovery partition which already fill up the max 3 primary partitions in 1 HDD. The only way would be re-assign the Extended D: Lenovo partition after you shrinked your C:. If you still don't understand... better start to learn more on file system for Vista/7.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 24 2010, 12:15 AM)
The answer is no effect for the recovery key and no again for creating a new primary partition because you already have System Reserved, C: and Recovery partition which already fill up the max 3 primary partitions in 1 HDD. The only way would be re-assign the Extended D: Lenovo partition after you shrinked your C:. If you still don't understand... better start to learn more on file system for Vista/7.
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again ty.


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It should not affect the os recovery partition.
However, to play safe, clone your os recovery partition before you resize & create a new partition.
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QUOTE(rashad @ Apr 24 2010, 12:33 AM)
thx for the feedback, and i am sorry if i offended you by any way, it wasn't my intention. because i sense a harsh tone in your reply " the part if you don't understand " which was not necessary.

again ty.



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I'm sorry if you think I'm giving you a hard time. I'm just a straight forward guy where I'm not used to explain/elaborate why something can't be done. I've did what you wanna do. The other solution would be extend your system reserved partition to act as your data partition like a bro here stated before. smile.gif

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Any comments on the keyboard?
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Any comments on the keyboard?
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 24 2010, 12:51 AM)

Added on April 24, 2010, 12:33 am

I'm sorry if you think I'm giving you a hard time. I'm just a straight forward guy where I'm not used to explain/elaborate why something can't be done. I've did what you wanna do. The other solution would be extend your system reserved partition to act as your data partition like a bro here stated before. smile.gif
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No hard feelings smile.gif , and your right.

i had to try it out to be convinced. it turns out that after getting the extra space from shrinking you cant create a 4th partition, at the same time the D partition cant be extended using the space just created ( the option isn't available).

just needed to mention it for others who are curious as me.

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QUOTE(rashad @ Apr 23 2010, 11:02 PM)
hi guys i have a question i want to create another partition from C by shrinking c in Disk management tool and using that space to make another partion, my question will that effect the recovery key. i know this question was raised before and answered by jotaro 12 but he mentioned using Linux, i don't think u need Linux to do it since windows can.
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In actual fact it will affect the function of the OKR (One Key Recovery). It is a known problem across multiple Lenovo notebooks that OKR will only function if the size of your system partition (drive C) remains intact.

If you resize it then OKR will not work and you'll have one useless button on your notebook. There's a whole topic on OKR and partitions on the official Lenovo forums if you're interested to read more about it.
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QUOTE(boon21 @ Apr 24 2010, 09:44 AM)
In actual fact it will affect the function of the OKR (One Key Recovery). It is a known problem across multiple Lenovo notebooks that OKR will only function if the size of your system partition (drive C) remains intact.

If you resize it then OKR will not work and you'll have one useless button on your notebook. There's a whole topic on OKR and partitions on the official Lenovo forums if you're interested to read more about it.
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thx for the feedback, will check it out. but i am really surprised how come lenovo doesn't create an extra partition with good space for storage from the beginning,

since it becomes a real problem for the buyer rclxub.gif .

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QUOTE(rashad @ Apr 24 2010, 11:14 AM)
thx for the feedback, will check it out. but i am really surprised how come lenovo doesn't create an extra partition with good space for storage from the beginning,

since it becomes a real problem for the buyer  rclxub.gif .
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Do not ask "how come".
This applies to Dell/Acer/Asus/Toshiba/Lenovo/Fujitsu/you name it.
Well, they just "don't care". They only care and make sure the product is working fine as per factory setting.

I don't understand why OKR can't work after creation of new partition. It's a software & bios issue (if the recovery command is programmed into BIOS).
Acer "Alt+F10" can work just fine.

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QUOTE(synz @ Apr 24 2010, 05:01 PM)
my laptop just back from rma, very friendly and helpful technician  thumbup.gif

a lenovo service center will be launched on next monday @lyp 4th floor, so needless to bring to PJ next time  rclxms.gif
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what happen to ur lappy?
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 24 2010, 01:06 AM)
I'm still learning to use it till today bcoz I'm used to my old Dell 15" laptop and the spacing between each key is slightly different from what I've been accommodate for 5+ years. The keyboard doesn't flex though(for me), but it depends on case by case.
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It's keyboard comfy and noisy or not bro? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(synz @ Apr 24 2010, 05:01 PM)
my laptop just back from rma, very friendly and helpful technician  thumbup.gif

a lenovo service center will be launched on next monday @lyp 4th floor, so needless to bring to PJ next time  rclxms.gif
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Did they charge you fees for it?

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what happen to ur lappy?
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after update latest BIOS cant boot. sweat.gif
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Did they charge you fees for it?
after update latest BIOS cant boot.  sweat.gif
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It's keyboard comfy and noisy or not bro? hmm.gif
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Hmmm, since I got keyboard protector, I'll say noise is fine but I won't say it's comfy, just normal... sweat.gif

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totally agreed with that...not too comfy...and sometimes quite irresponsive imo...
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QUOTE(wztech @ Apr 24 2010, 10:18 PM)
totally agreed with that...not too comfy...and sometimes quite irresponsive imo...
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Not too comfy? Haizzz....keyboard really important for me...irresponsive cannot be tolerated liao~~.... doh.gif
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Not too comfy? Haizzz....keyboard really important for me...irresponsive cannot be tolerated liao~~.... doh.gif
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sometimes laa....must use a bit of force when typing make sure the key really go in....
have lots of typos when first using it...but now can lived with it already...maybe mine is defective?! wink.gif
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QUOTE(wztech @ Apr 25 2010, 12:11 AM)
sometimes laa....must use a bit of force when typing make sure the key really go in....
have lots of typos when first using it...but now can lived with it already...maybe mine is defective?!  wink.gif
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yea i have same situation as you
it is my problem + keyboard problem
first.. since just bought a new lappy, dare not press keyboard so hard, this leads me to typing error sometimes.
and the keyboard too needs to be press with slightly more pressure

but now i am using it like a normal keyboard.. it seems working fine now, less typing error
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Did they charge you fees for it?
after update latest BIOS cant boot.  sweat.gif
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Well, the point of newer BIOS if they found something that need to get fixed/bugs...for flashing to the newer BIOS is recommended but please be caution while doing it nod.gif
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Hey guys is there the Lenovo Y560 in Malaysia? Seems interesting..! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Apr 25 2010, 05:17 PM)
Hey guys is there the Lenovo Y560 in Malaysia? Seems interesting..! biggrin.gif

-Core i7-720QM 1.6GHz
-ATi Mobility Radeon HD5730

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I dun think Y560 is yet available in MY but Y550 (P8600 + GT130M) & Y550P (i7 720QM + GT240M) is available i guess unsure.gif but still i not quite sure tongue.gif


Added on April 25, 2010, 5:29 pmWell, Y460 just released recently, my guess maybe in due time (say around a month or so) sure Y560 will be release in MY smile.gif

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hi, im considering buying a y460 but can anyone enlighten me on what should i expect when purchasing this laptop?..
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hi, im considering buying a y460 but can anyone enlighten me on what should i expect when purchasing this laptop?..
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Hey guys is there the Lenovo Y560 in Malaysia? Seems interesting..! biggrin.gif

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Pricing and Availability

The IdeaPad S10-3t will be available from January 2010. The IdeaCentre A300, IdeaPad S10-3, IdeaPad Y460 and Lenovo G460 will be available in Q1 of 2010. The IdeaPad V460 and V560, IdeaCentre K320, IdeaPad Y560, Lenovo C310 and Lenovo G560 are not available in Malaysia. All recommended retail pricing of products is to be confirmed. 

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what is price for 15.6-inch Y560 multimedia laptop?? tongue.gif
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what is price for 15.6-inch Y560 multimedia laptop?? tongue.gif
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Read carefully bro...

The IdeaPad V460 and V560, IdeaCentre K320, IdeaPad Y560, Lenovo C310 and Lenovo G560 are not available in Malaysia

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Well, maybe can opt to buy from other countries laugh.gif

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can someone help me to clarify is it my ACPI TZ00 temperature normal ?
i thought the ACPI temperature should be around room temperature
but my ACPI temperature follows the temperature of CPU core if CPU hit 70C , then the ACPI also hit 70C

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Its normal for ACPI to follow the CPU temp...
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Hey guys is there the Lenovo Y560 in Malaysia? Seems interesting..! biggrin.gif

-Core i7-720QM 1.6GHz
-ATi Mobility Radeon HD5730

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It's tempting but it doesn't have graphic switching ability ----> heat generates faster sweat.gif
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It's tempting but it doesn't have graphic switching ability ----> heat generates faster  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mzzzk8819 @ Apr 25 2010, 06:58 PM)
thank for good information.. i think y460 is best laptop..  thumbup.gif
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i love my Y460 too ....

the veriface software ... always cannot veri my face ... LOL
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Apr 25 2010, 05:17 PM)
Hey guys is there the Lenovo Y560 in Malaysia? Seems interesting..! biggrin.gif

-Core i7-720QM 1.6GHz
-ATi Mobility Radeon HD5730

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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New Y560P replaces Y550P. 6GB RAM, 1GB ATI graphic, Blu-Ray optical drive, Sun-woofer speaker, TV Tuner & HDMI.
SRP RM4,999

Y560P-Core i7-720QM 5903-5560
Intel Core i7 Processor i7-720QM (1.6GHz/ 1333MHz/ 6MB L3 Cache)
6GB DDR3
BluRay Combo 500GB SATA
15.6 WLED HD
ATI™ Mobility Radeon™ HD 5730 1024MB
6-in-1
2.8Kgs
6 cell
Wireless
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One Key Recovery/ Veriface
1 Year Carry-in (Regional) Warranty

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New Y560P replaces Y550P. 6GB RAM, 1GB ATI graphic, Blu-Ray optical drive,  Sun-woofer speaker, TV Tuner & HDMI.
SRP RM4,999

Y560P-Core i7-720QM 5903-5560
Intel Core i7 Processor i7-720QM (1.6GHz/ 1333MHz/ 6MB L3 Cache)
6GB DDR3 
BluRay Combo 500GB SATA
15.6 WLED HD
ATI™ Mobility Radeon™ HD 5730 1024MB
6-in-1 
2.8Kgs
6 cell
Wireless
Bluetooth
Camera
W7HP
One Key Recovery/ Veriface
1 Year Carry-in (Regional) Warranty
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Price pleases... brows.gif
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QUOTE(hikari85 @ Apr 25 2010, 11:51 PM)
New Y560P replaces Y550P. 6GB RAM, 1GB ATI graphic, Blu-Ray optical drive,  Sun-woofer speaker, TV Tuner & HDMI.
SRP RM4,999


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QUOTE(mzzzk8819 @ Apr 25 2010, 11:56 PM)
Price pleases... brows.gif
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QUOTE(hikari85 @ Apr 25 2010, 11:51 PM)
New Y560P replaces Y550P. 6GB RAM, 1GB ATI graphic, Blu-Ray optical drive,  Sun-woofer speaker, TV Tuner & HDMI.
SRP RM4,999

Y560P-Core i7-720QM 5903-5560
Intel Core i7 Processor i7-720QM (1.6GHz/ 1333MHz/ 6MB L3 Cache)
6GB DDR3 
BluRay Combo 500GB SATA
15.6 WLED HD
ATI™ Mobility Radeon™ HD 5730 1024MB
6-in-1 
2.8Kgs
6 cell
Wireless
Bluetooth
Camera
W7HP
One Key Recovery/ Veriface
1 Year Carry-in (Regional) Warranty
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Wow, mouth watering specs and quite nice price for the spec should I say...but 2.8Kgs? Need more muscle on the shoulders to carry this one around...hehe brows.gif
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HD 5730 > HD 5650
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So, there is Y560P here in MY...so another choice for gaming...but the spec is kinda like N61Ja which can gives us a bit more on the warranty side tongue.gif...the price also the same hmm.gif..


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Too bad you can OC your 5650 anytime to 5730 w/o screwing your laptop/GC.
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me too have a lil bit of typo error with the keyboard thingy... would need to apply a bit more pressure to it to get it "typed".

btw, to those who are looking for the best mid-range spec laptop (price:spec ratio), y460 is the one to go for. no questions ask, you will not regret it. heat wise, you can live with it as we all have.
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can i get y460 with DOS only? then i buy the retail windows 7 myself? lol

downloading windows7 is a pain in ass @@
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can i get y460 with DOS only? then i buy the retail windows 7 myself? lol

downloading windows7 is a pain in ass @@
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hmm... from what i have surveyed in the past (just 1week+ ago), y460 seems to come with win7hp, compulsory... leaving no options for freedos. topup for ultimate seems impossible too. if you already have a win7u, you can transfer it to your laptop tho, by changing the key after you reinstall.
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Apr 26 2010, 09:44 AM)
hmm... from what i have surveyed in the past (just 1week+ ago), y460 seems to come with win7hp, compulsory... leaving no options for freedos. topup for ultimate seems impossible too. if you already have a win7u, you can transfer it to your laptop tho, by changing the key after you reinstall.
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no, I dont have the win7 CD, but since the laptop does not come with the win7 disc, doing a clean install of windows7 will be a pain in ass since i need to download win7 myself, and burn it into DVD ma (download 4gb ++ leh)

so if ada shipped with DOS, i can beli win7 myself that comes with CD lo, easier for me to format @@


unless someone can teach me how to backup the OS itself nia? without all the junkware then good la flex.gif flex.gif
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 26 2010, 10:05 AM)
no, I dont have the win7 CD, but since the laptop does not come with the win7 disc, doing a clean install of windows7 will be a pain in ass since i need to download win7 myself, and burn it into DVD ma (download 4gb ++ leh)

so if ada shipped with DOS, i can beli win7 myself that comes with CD lo, easier for me to format @@
unless someone can teach me how to backup the OS itself nia? without all the junkware then good la  flex.gif  flex.gif
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i uh, also downloaded my copy of win7 after failing to create the recovery disc (killed 2 pieces of dvd there). but i did reinstall some of the junks for the touch buttons... lolz
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ Apr 25 2010, 06:21 PM)
Read carefully bro...

The IdeaPad V460 and V560, IdeaCentre K320, IdeaPad Y560, Lenovo C310 and Lenovo G560 are not available in Malaysia

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Well, maybe can opt to buy from other countries laugh.gif
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IdeaPad Y560 not available in Malaysia
but Y560P is available on Mid of May smile.gif

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Thanks hikari85 for the heads up notworthy.gif...well, in the list also stated its only Y560 that is not available but for Y560P none tongue.gif...
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Apr 26 2010, 10:15 AM)
i uh, also downloaded my copy of win7 after failing to create the recovery disc (killed 2 pieces of dvd there). but i did reinstall some of the junks for the touch buttons... lolz
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sigh....i am downloading now liao...prepare when i get my lappie lol (although still havent decide yet )

btw, do i need to download the drivers? or i can find it inside my lappie?
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 26 2010, 11:41 AM)
sigh....i am downloading now liao...prepare when i get my lappie lol (although still havent decide yet )

btw, do i need to download the drivers? or i can find it inside my lappie?
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hmm... i would say y460 is a good buy if you're really in need of a laptop now. the things that comes with it is pretty standard and some desirable (e.g. hdmi, bluetooth, switchable graphics, i5-i540, ati hd5650). only thing that might put you off is the 500gb (5000rpm), 1.3mp webcam, could-be-better keyboard).

about the drivers, it's best that you download... dun be so malas to download... i also spent quite a no. of days understanding the laptop.

btw, i applied lcd screen guard (rm14) and failed with some bubble trapped (due to last minute dust getting inside). had to scratch the bubble out and the lcd screen guard pun look like scratched... =.=" i wonder the film can be removed and how??? rclxub.gif

i also diy'ed a palm skin from the transparent film (slightly adhesive) used to protect new printers' shiny parts. just cut the shape and hide the uneven cuts into the edges of the keyboard. a good temporary solution to keep the laptop from scratches.
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 26 2010, 11:41 AM)
sigh....i am downloading now liao...prepare when i get my lappie lol (although still havent decide yet )

btw, do i need to download the drivers? or i can find it inside my lappie?
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QUOTE(wztech @ Apr 26 2010, 12:11 PM)
the drivers are already inside the partition D...
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Apr 26 2010, 12:07 PM)
hmm... i would say y460 is a good buy if you're really in need of a laptop now. the things that comes with it is pretty standard and some desirable (e.g. hdmi, bluetooth, switchable graphics, i5-i540, ati hd5650). only thing that might put you off is the 500gb (5000rpm), 1.3mp webcam, could-be-better keyboard).

about the drivers, it's best that you download... dun be so malas to download... i also spent quite a no. of days understanding the laptop.

btw, i applied lcd screen guard (rm14) and failed with some bubble trapped (due to last minute dust getting inside). had to scratch the bubble out and the lcd screen guard pun look like scratched... =.=" i wonder the film can be removed and how???  rclxub.gif

i also diy'ed a palm skin from the transparent film (slightly adhesive) used to protect new printers' shiny parts. just cut the shape and hide the uneven cuts into the edges of the keyboard. a good temporary solution to keep the laptop from scratches.
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i see...am using an quite old dell (T7250 core2 duo 2GHZ, 2gb of ram and 160gb of hdd only)

editing pictar using this is really slow , but for normal office work is ok la...

btw, thanks both leng2 and wztech


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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 26 2010, 01:14 PM)
i see...am using an quite old dell (T7250 core2 duo 2GHZ, 2gb of ram and 160gb of hdd only)

editing pictar using this is really slow , but for normal office work is ok la...

btw, thanks both leng2 and wztech
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i would like to ask...did anyone encounter tat their Lenovo Y460 i5 540m hdd gt harsh sound?
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Guys, if i got some program thAt only compatible with windows XP, can I run it on windows 7 home premium using virtual PC or something?

Or I need windows 7 professional?

Can the y460 support xp mode?

And what's VT ar?
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 26 2010, 05:45 PM)
Guys, if i got some program thAt only compatible with windows XP, can I run it on windows 7 home premium using virtual PC or something?

Or I need windows 7 professional?

Can the y460 support xp mode?

And what's VT ar?
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You actually can install XP mode even you're using home basic(found out a while back) but need to do some settings. Try google to get your answer. If not, there are other virtual software like VMware etc. If your XP program does related to server/network operation, it might have it's limit on XP mode. VT is embedded on some processors where it provides the ability to support virtualization.
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I see i see....thanks for the info smile.gif

the software i am using does need conection to the internet though, but no need networking and such la

thanks smile.gif
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anyone tried to run the check disk? when i scheduled the check disk on next startup, havn't start to run already show "disk checking has been cancelled"
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finally finish download windows7....not its time to either buy or not LOL
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 27 2010, 08:37 AM)
finally finish download windows7....not its time to either buy or not LOL
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Wow, one step ahead of time tongue.gif...download the drivers first then buy notworthy.gif...well, a good choice of laptop nod.gif..
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 27 2010, 08:37 AM)
finally finish download windows7....not its time to either buy or not LOL
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Apr 27 2010, 08:49 AM)
pls do not discuss on piracy..let alone being proud of doing that  doh.gif
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Apr 27 2010, 08:49 AM)
pls do not discuss on piracy..let alone being proud of doing that  doh.gif
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oi unker...its legal download la duh

i still need the CD key to activate it

besides, i download it for doing a clean install

sigh....

PS: download from HERE duh....


Added on April 27, 2010, 9:13 amand besides....if i getting y460, what for i go download pirated version when it's preinstall already? sigh oh sigh.....


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Wow, one step ahead of time tongue.gif...download the drivers first then buy notworthy.gif...well, a good choice of laptop nod.gif..
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coz if i getting this weekend, i will be at a place where i don't have good internet connection ma (only the maxis broadband which frequently DC and from 3G become EDGE,so slow)

so no way i can download 3gb of files using that lol.

if now download liao, then when buy, can terus format, clean install and use, ahha

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hey i got a few questions here before i decide to buy this laptop..

1) is the screen glossy?
2) is the keyboard comfortable to use?
3) if i wanna reinstall the Win7, can i use my friend's CD but my own activation key?
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1. Its glossy. Hardly to find non-glossy on consumer notebook nowadays...
2, Let the others answer tongue.gif
3. If its the same version, its possible.
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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Apr 27 2010, 10:38 AM)
1. Its glossy. Hardly to find non-glossy on consumer notebook nowadays...
2, Let the others answer tongue.gif
3. If its the same version, its possible.
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if not mistaken, all windows 7 CD got all version of windows inside, and you can choose which version to install

so you can surely use your key to activate and install it
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Well, actually some of Window Installation CD detect what KEY that you use, if its for HP then it automatically goes to HP nod.gif..dunno if this applied to Pro/Ulti though...or am i wrong unsure.gif
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 27 2010, 10:41 AM)
if not mistaken, all windows 7 CD got all version of windows inside, and you can choose which version to install

so you can surely use your key to activate and install it
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That applies to Windows Vista only. All Win 7 retail & OEM DVDs will follow their own version's respectively, there's no version selection before installation and after finish installation, it'll straight away ask you to enter product key(even tho you didn't enter the key, you'll still getting the same version that your DVD has, i.e. Windows 7 Home Premium DVD -> Windows 7 Home Premium only.) Other than that, it's not advisable to discuss here.
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http://consumersupport.lenovo.com/au/en/dr...ows%207%2064bit
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 27 2010, 12:38 PM)
That applies to Windows Vista only. All Win 7 retail & OEM DVDs will follow their own version's respectively, there's no version selection before installation and after finish installation, it'll straight away ask you to enter product key(even tho you didn't enter the key, you'll still getting the same version that your DVD has, i.e. Windows 7 Home Premium DVD -> Windows 7 Home Premium only.) Other than that, it's not advisable to discuss here.
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oh, never know that....good

i might upgrade mine to win 7 professional though on whatever laptop i gona get tongue.gif
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Apr 27 2010, 12:46 PM)
btw, anyone applied any skin to their laptop?
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u mean skin cover, bought one but because it was my first time doh.gif , it wasn't successful so i removed it due to some air bubbles inside it wasn't attractive. besides i already have a cleaning kit. and it looks more beautiful without the skin.

so decided to leave it as it is.
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hey guys i saw china y460 version has a 3G broadband included in the notebook

i have checked my y460 , it does not have 3G modem integrated in the laptop

does your y460 has the 3G broadband?


how to check it :
you should see a sim card slot located somewhere near to intel wifi card
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QUOTE(rashad @ Apr 27 2010, 01:16 PM)
u mean skin cover, bought one but because it was my first time  doh.gif , it wasn't successful so i removed it due to some air bubbles inside it wasn't attractive. besides i already have a cleaning kit. and it looks more beautiful without the skin.

so decided to leave it as it is.
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i mean those transparent films to stick on the whole body, not just the lid. those colour colour ones, not my cup of tea... you not afraid to scratch the laptop meh? but yea, i took care of my 6yrs old laptop, until now it is very nice in the looks, minimal scratches... it's just that the y460 is kinda glossy... so not quite sure if i can maintain it nicely...
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QUOTE(gstoh @ Apr 27 2010, 01:33 PM)
hey guys i saw china y460 version has a 3G broadband included in the notebook

i have checked my y460 , it does not have 3G modem integrated in the laptop

does your y460 has the 3G broadband?

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Already knew that when I search around china forums. Mine doesn't have the SIM slot + I think it's only available to certain region models. Some China guy got his w/ SIM slot, still it won't able to search it's hardware.
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Y460 or M11x !! hmmm seeems like the heat issue is overrated
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Stylish and portability, M11x. Performance horse and budget wise, Y460.
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Stylish and portability, M11x. Performance horse and budget wise, Y460.
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finally pay deposit for the y460 lol

and it seems i need to purchase another windows 7 professional myself if i want to use it, which means i will have 2 windows7 @@

i cant just upgrade from windows home premium meh? anyone can clarify?


Added on April 28, 2010, 6:54 pmPS: i asked 2 shop, and both also tell me same thing...very mahal leh if buy again , RM500 @@

sigh..upgrade macam cheaper eh lol

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 28 2010, 06:52 PM)
finally pay deposit for the y460 lol

and it seems i need to purchase another windows 7 professional myself if i want to use it, which means i will have 2 windows7 @@

i cant just upgrade from windows home premium meh? anyone can clarify?


Added on April 28, 2010, 6:54 pmPS: i asked 2 shop, and both also tell me same thing...very mahal leh if buy again , RM500 @@

sigh..upgrade macam cheaper eh lol
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Only Dell provide upgrade options because they'll build your system after you ordered/customized. Other OEMs will get their own OS that come with the box, so limited upgrade options.

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 28 2010, 06:52 PM)
finally pay deposit for the y460 lol
hoiyoh... really the finally lor... welcome to the y460 club!

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 28 2010, 07:08 PM)
Only Dell provide upgrade options because they'll build your system after you ordered/customized. Other OEMs will get their own OS that come with the box, so limited upgrade options.
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means i cant even upgrade myself by purchasing the upgrade from microsoft? sad.gif


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hoiyoh... really the finally lor... welcome to the y460 club!
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lol yea, tired of waiting for n82 and ew16

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 28 2010, 07:26 PM)
means i cant even upgrade myself by purchasing the upgrade from microsoft? sad.gif
You are able to do the upgrade, just not from the OEM factory --> means you have to re-install the OS(recommended) or can try the windows anytime upgrade(not sure if it works).
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hi guys, i want to ask about the battery life?. so far after configuring the battery to energy saver it seems the battery cant last more than 3 hours sad.gif (i am still testing it), and that's with normal use just using internet.
at the beginning it will state that the battery will last more than 4 hours.

any of you had it last longer that?

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 28 2010, 08:48 PM)
You are able to do the upgrade, just not from the OEM factory --> means you have to re-install the OS(recommended) or can try the windows anytime upgrade(not sure if it works).
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yea, i will definitely reinstall it (format and doing a clean install)

just want to ask, how much extra need to pay nia from home premium to professional

i know if just buy win7 professional is rm500 like that, but if i aready got home premium, upgrade to professional also need rm500 aR?
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 28 2010, 09:12 PM)

i know if just buy win7 professional is rm500 like that, but if i aready got home premium, upgrade to professional also need rm500 aR?
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Correct, because it's another license unless the laptop OEM does provide OS selections before you purchase. The license from branded OEMs(Dell, HP, Lenovo, Acer etc) is different from the license you bought from retailers so it cannot be mix/added together.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 28 2010, 09:23 PM)
Correct, because it's another license unless the laptop OEM does provide OS selections before you purchase. The license from branded OEMs(Dell, HP, Lenovo, Acer etc) is different from the license you bought from retailers so it cannot be mix/added together.
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oh i see....sigh, thats bad sad.gif


Added on April 28, 2010, 9:47 pmoh btw, since my windows7 shud be 64bit , and if i got a program that only supports windows 7 32bit, can i run it at 32bit mode?

i was told by the program supplier that i cant do so ,and i can only wait them to release the 64bit driver :S

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Hey guys, I'm still on the fence between the Y460 and the N82, but i wanna clarify, are the Y460's ATI drivers dependable? Because I read somewhere that the NVidia manual switching graphics like on the M11x will be phased out because of Optimus, does the Y460 face the same problem with its ATI switchable graphics? Does the driver get good support? Thanks all!

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 28 2010, 09:44 PM)
oh i see....sigh, thats bad sad.gif


Added on April 28, 2010, 9:47 pmoh btw, since my windows7 shud be 64bit , and if i got a program that only supports windows 7 32bit, can i run it at 32bit mode?

i was told by the program supplier that i cant do so ,and i can only wait them to release the 64bit driver :S
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Most 32bit programs are able to install onto a 64bit system under the program files(x86) folder. Most of the recent 32bit programs do run fine under Win 7 64bit, i.e. Firefox, VLC player or recent games like SF4, BFBC2, Metro 2033, Assassin Creed 2 etc. Some programs might not work well with 64bit if they don't update/upgrade their versions to cope with. I would suggest you to install your software just to see if it does work like usual. nod.gif


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hi guys, i want to ask about the battery life?. so far after configuring the battery to energy saver it seems the battery cant last more than 3 hours  sad.gif (i am still testing it), and that's with normal use just using internet.
at the beginning it will state that the battery will last more than 4 hours.

any of you had it last longer that?
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The term browsing internet under the battery consumption theory is strictly browse web with no interactive add-ons i.e. youtube, webpage with flash ads etc which it'll draw the battery life too. I think to achieve browsing "normal" websites near 4 hours battery life would be turn on Super Energy Saver, close all interactive buttons and wifi/bluetooth on laptop, no other apps running besides folder browsing, dim the screen brightness, 60-70 processes running only, turn off mouse pad if possible lol... But that will suck up your fun on just normal surf w/o thinking about battery life tongue.gif

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ok i take back what i said after consuming my battery, it lasts exactly 2 hours and half just browsing the internet and that's in power saver mode, browsing the

internet through out the whole period ( youtube, facebook ,....) ........is that normal or should i be worried?

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QUOTE(Maverick_Neutron @ Apr 28 2010, 10:08 PM)
Hey guys, I'm still on the fence between the Y460 and the N82, but i wanna clarify, are the Y460's ATI drivers dependable? Because I read somewhere that the NVidia manual switching graphics like on the M11x will be phased out because of Optimus, does the Y460 face the same problem with its ATI switchable graphics? Does the driver get good support? Thanks all!
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ATI didn't announce any automatic switching graphics between apps/games atm so far. They did mention they'll have monthly update for mobile graphics which is a good news(just not sure how true that is hehe, plus some OEMs don't allow ATI to interfere the OEMs' customized hardware driver bcoz of various concerns like battery life, interaction between other hardware, heating issues etc). Same goes to nVidia. I do think the M11x will go into that route eventually, just not sure when will that be... hmm.gif Better get N61 rather than N82 unless you need a 14 inch or below lappy.


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ok i take back what i said after consuming my battery, it lasts exactly 2 hours and half just browsing the internet and that's in power saver mode, browsing the internet through out the whole period ( youtube, facebook ,....)   ........is that normal or should i be worried?
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Sounds reasonable to me.

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 28 2010, 11:23 PM)
ATI didn't announce any automatic switching graphics between apps/games atm so far. They did mention they'll have monthly update for mobile graphics which is a good news(just not sure how true that is hehe, plus some OEMs don't allow ATI to interfere the OEMs' customized hardware driver bcoz of various concerns like battery life, interaction between other hardware, heating issues etc). Same goes to nVidia. I do think the M11x will go into that route eventually, just not sure when will that be...  hmm.gif Better get N61 rather than N82 unless you need a 14 inch or below lappy.


Added on April 28, 2010, 11:27 pm

Sounds reasonable to me.
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thx, i tried googling it, i mean battery life period, and i couldn't find anyone actually testing it.


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Most 32bit programs are able to install onto a 64bit system under the program files(x86) folder. Most of the recent 32bit programs do run fine under Win 7 64bit, i.e. Firefox, VLC player or recent games like SF4, BFBC2, Metro 2033, Assassin Creed 2 etc. Some programs might not work well with 64bit if they don't update/upgrade their versions to cope with. I would suggest you to install your software just to see if it does work like usual.  nod.gif


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The term browsing internet under the battery consumption theory is strictly browse web with no interactive add-ons i.e. youtube, webpage with flash ads etc which it'll draw the battery life too. I think to achieve browsing "normal" websites near 4 hours battery life would be turn on Super Energy Saver, close all interactive buttons and wifi/bluetooth on laptop, no other apps running besides folder browsing, dim the screen brightness, 60-70 processes running only, turn off mouse pad if possible lol... But that will suck up your fun on just normal surf w/o thinking about battery life  tongue.gif
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i agree but i guess 4 hours is too much to ask maybe without internet its possible, but the super energey saver mode really sucks, especially the screen brightness. cant work with that.

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QUOTE(rashad @ Apr 28 2010, 11:40 PM)
thx, i tried googling it, i mean battery life period, and i couldn't find anyone actually testing it.

i agree but i guess 4 hours is too much to ask maybe without internet its possible, but the super energey saver mode really sucks, especially the screen brightness. cant work with that.
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I think you still can adjust the screen brightness even you're in super energy saver mode... gosh.... just short it SES mode then lol. The battery life really differs as what I've mentioned b4, it hardly get the same result even the test is the same. Background apps + youtube + flash will surely suck battery life faster tongue.gif .
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 28 2010, 10:43 PM)
Most 32bit programs are able to install onto a 64bit system under the program files(x86) folder. Most of the recent 32bit programs do run fine under Win 7 64bit, i.e. Firefox, VLC player or recent games like SF4, BFBC2, Metro 2033, Assassin Creed 2 etc. Some programs might not work well with 64bit if they don't update/upgrade their versions to cope with. I would suggest you to install your software just to see if it does work like usual.  nod.gif

yea, guess thats what i can do only

if really cant then just have to get prof version sad.gif


Added on April 29, 2010, 2:00 pmwoot my y460 is here! biggrin.gif

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ATI didn't announce any automatic switching graphics between apps/games atm so far. They did mention they'll have monthly update for mobile graphics which is a good news(just not sure how true that is hehe, plus some OEMs don't allow ATI to interfere the OEMs' customized hardware driver bcoz of various concerns like battery life, interaction between other hardware, heating issues etc). Same goes to nVidia. I do think the M11x will go into that route eventually, just not sure when will that be...  hmm.gif Better get N61 rather than N82 unless you need a 14 inch or below lappy.
The N61 is way over my budget la bro, the N82 is already peaking my budget limit, fortunately the Y460 fits perfectly. So, what you are trying to say is, the Y460's graphic drivers are relatively safe, and ATI claims they'll update the drivers regularly, but I should only get the drivers from Lenovo because of the customizations. So, is Lenovo's driver support reliable? I have no experience at all with Lenovo/IBM products, sorry for the trouble.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 29 2010, 06:32 AM)
yea, guess thats what i can do only

if really cant then just have to get prof version sad.gif


Added on April 29, 2010, 2:00 pmwoot my y460 is here! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 29 2010, 03:08 PM)
Gratz on your purchase smile.gif.
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are you gonna mod your y460? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Maverick_Neutron @ Apr 29 2010, 02:53 PM)
The N61 is way over my budget la bro, the N82 is already peaking my budget limit, fortunately the Y460 fits perfectly. So, what you are trying to say is, the Y460's graphic drivers are relatively safe, and ATI claims they'll update the drivers regularly, but I should only get the drivers from Lenovo because of the customizations. So, is Lenovo's driver support reliable? I have no experience at all with Lenovo/IBM products, sorry for the trouble.. thumbup.gif
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If you're referring the RM3999 N82 then I'm not sure since the stocks mostly available from LYN sellers rather than resellers. As some bro had posted a pic shown the SRP is RM4999 which is the same with N61. For the driver part, I can't give an exact answer because the latest 10.3/10.4 Catalyst does exclude Sony, Toshiba and Panasonic, together with switchable graphic lappys. Time only will tell that if ATI does update it's driver to support switchable GC, then we'll know the answer.


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QUOTE(leng2 @ Apr 29 2010, 03:15 PM)
are you gonna mod your y460?  brows.gif
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Hardware?? tongue.gif Still not able to use those OC tool to recognize the GC... So no progress atm lol

Btw, do you guys experience audio skipping while watching movies or listening music? I think this happen mostly when I didn't turn off my laptop for more than a day...Already update my audio driver till the latest at Realtek but not a real fix hmm.gif

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ April 29, 2010, 3:26 pm)
Hardware??  tongue.gif  Still not able to use those OC tool to recognize the GC... So no progress atm lol

Btw, do you guys experience audio skipping while watching movies or listening music? I think this happen mostly when I didn't turn off my laptop for more than a day...Already update my audio driver till the latest at Realtek but not a real fix  hmm.gif
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wow, so fast turn ur laptop into a downloader ar. i don't experience such issue... could it be due to heavy background process? i already modded... with a lcd skin... lolz...
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 29 2010, 03:08 PM)
Gratz on your purchase smile.gif.
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thanks....also formated and clean install d lol

btw, which software from lenovo are install worthy?

veriface? slidenav? tongue.gif
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For touch sense buttons, it's better to install all of them. Even though you only need the OneKey Recovery, it'll take a while to figure out why the button won't function after you've installed it sweat.gif
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The upcoming Lenovo ideapad Z460

Lenovo Z460 in China
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I want it's keyboard!!!!!!!!!!!!! cry.gif
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 29 2010, 05:20 PM)
For touch sense buttons, it's better to install all of them. Even though you only need the OneKey Recovery, it'll take a while to figure out why the button won't function after you've installed it sweat.gif
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hm...which one are you sayinG?

i install everything from D drive d la, all the driver ma.

now left some extras nia, no time to fully test it yet @@

or do you mean i need to install everything under "software" from here:

http://consumersupport.lenovo.com/in/en/Dr...ID=955740&OS=0#



those are not in the D drive , have to download liao :S
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 29 2010, 05:33 PM)
The upcoming Lenovo ideapad Z460

Lenovo Z460 in China
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I want it's keyboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!  cry.gif
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nice design...concave keyboard.. drool.gif

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 29 2010, 06:24 PM)
hm...which one are you sayinG?

i install everything from D drive d la, all the driver ma.

now left some extras nia, no time to fully test it yet @@

or do you mean i need to install everything under "software" from here:

those are not in the D drive , have to download liao :S
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lol, since you've installed all drivers on D: then those touch sense buttons should work fine smile.gif. The buttons are under OneKey Recovery, OneKey Theater and SlideNav iirc.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 29 2010, 06:28 PM)
lol, since you've installed all drivers on D: then those touch sense buttons should work fine smile.gif. The buttons are under OneKey Recovery, OneKey Theater and SlideNav iirc.
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eh wait, now you mentioned, i think i dint install one key recovery from drive D

lol.....ya...thats the only i think i dint install

okok, later gota go see, then decide lol
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 29 2010, 05:33 PM)
The upcoming Lenovo ideapad Z460

Lenovo Z460 in China
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I want it's keyboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!  cry.gif
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WOW!

It uses anodized alluminium! rclxms.gif
Chiclet keyboard.

I want this badly..

I hope it'll arrive soon.

Z range supposeedly gonna to be pricier it seem? sad.gif
I hope not.

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QUOTE(Chyan @ Apr 30 2010, 12:10 AM)
WOW!

It uses anodized alluminium! rclxms.gif
Chiclet keyboard.

I want this badly..

I hope it'll arrive soon.

Z range supposeedly gonna to be pricier it seem? sad.gif
I hope not.
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might be lot cheaper...
as it comes with intel i3 330m + 2gb ram + ati hd5145..
but the configuration hasnt finalize yet....
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QUOTE(wztech @ Apr 30 2010, 12:30 AM)
might be lot cheaper...
as it comes with intel i3 330m + 2gb ram + ati hd5145..
but the configuration hasnt finalize yet....
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 29 2010, 05:33 PM)
The upcoming Lenovo ideapad Z460

Lenovo Z460 in China
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I want it's keyboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!  cry.gif
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you can just get a desktop chiclet keyboard... powerlogic and sensonic (they have similar design), both come with keyboard protector but overall quality i not sure.
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That will destroy the purpose of replacing a chiclet keyboard lol. I'm considering a wireless backlit keyboard now bcoz I wanna play games while on bed hehe but so far limited choices.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 30 2010, 01:38 PM)
@leng2

That will destroy the purpose of replacing a chiclet keyboard lol. I'm considering a wireless backlit keyboard now bcoz I wanna play games while on bed hehe but so far limited choices.
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can replace meh? i've been scouting wireless keyboard & mice too, for backlit ones got, but cost like rm200+.

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when u guys reformat did you change the partition of the drive as well?
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when u guys reformat did you change the partition of the drive as well?
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i did... remove all and repartition (including the system/oem/etc partition)
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and the one key recovery and all the add-ons still works?

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i didn't want the okr... so i didn't install the okr. i reinstalled the touch buttons and most of them worked except for the slidenav. still couldn't figure out what is missing.
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Apr 30 2010, 05:12 PM)
i didn't want the okr...  so i didn't install the okr. i reinstalled the touch buttons and most of them worked except for the slidenav. still couldn't figure out what is missing.
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The SlideNav is the tricky one. I'll let you know after I got back from work(Don't really remember the steps atm)... Or you can try your luck on the SlideNav folder smile.gif
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Yea I download the slidenav driver from the website but when click nothing happens. Can't install at all.


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how to use the double-finger scrolling on the touch pad??
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eh another question, i connect my notebook to a plasma TV using HDMI cable

picture is great, but i cant let the TV to play the sound, sound only come out from my lappy speaker. how to configure to let the TV play sound instead of my lappy ar?

i try googling, they say set HDMI to default sound playback, but when i do so, still no sound eh
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maybe the ATi HDMI drivers not there?
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oh, yes, i think thats the one. thanks , downloading now biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wztech @ Apr 30 2010, 07:23 PM)
how to use the double-finger scrolling on the touch pad??
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The vertical line on your touch pad is the scroll slider.

About the SlideNav, if you've installed the software, try go to

Loacl Disk C: > Drivers > Lenovo SlideNav > Installation > Installation.exe

Run it and I think it should solve the problem.

P/S: A nice gadget if you need one for us ATI fans.

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 30 2010, 09:19 PM)
The vertical line on your touch pad is the scroll slider.

About the SlideNav, if you've installed the software, try go to

Loacl Disk C: > Drivers > Lenovo SlideNav > Installation > Installation.exe

Run it and I think it should solve the problem.

P/S: A nice gadget if you need one for us ATI fans.

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thanks!!! slide nav can use liao biggrin.gif

btw, i still cant let my TV to have sound sad.gif

all sound come from my lappy speakers, although the speakers are not bad la

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QUOTE(leng2 @ Apr 30 2010, 02:38 PM)
can replace meh? i've been scouting wireless keyboard & mice too, for backlit ones got, but cost like rm200+.
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Theres a wireless backlit keyboard out there? Holy shit.. I always wanted one!1 Where?!
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 30 2010, 10:02 PM)
thanks!!! slide nav can use liao biggrin.gif

btw, i still cant let my TV to have sound sad.gif

all sound come from my lappy speakers, although the speakers are not bad la
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This one should be

Right click volume icon > Playback Devices > Right click Realtek HDMI output > Set as default device

Make sure you've connect your HDMI cable to your TV before performed the above steps.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 30 2010, 10:14 PM)
This one should be

Right click volume icon > Playback Devices > Right click Realtek HDMI output > Set as default device

Make sure you've connect your HDMI cable to your TV before performed the above steps.
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hm....try liao but still cannot eh sad.gif
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You're using your TV's sound or output to speakers?
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 30 2010, 10:36 PM)
You're using your TV's sound or output to speakers?
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i use HDMI cable to connect my laptop to TV ma, picture got, but sound tarak (if i select realtek digital output as my default sound)

if i select speakers as my default sound, then the sound will come from my laptop speakers
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 30 2010, 10:47 PM)
i use HDMI cable to connect my laptop to TV ma, picture got, but sound tarak (if i select realtek digital output as my default sound)

if i select speakers as my default sound, then the sound will come from my laptop speakers
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I meant did you hook up any speaker system/HiFi to your TV? If no, you need to check the settings on your TV too in order to receive audio signal thru HDMI.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 30 2010, 10:56 PM)
I meant did you hook up any speaker system/HiFi to your TV? If no, you need to check the settings on your TV too in order to receive audio signal thru HDMI.
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oh I see. Nope no speakers was hook up to the tv.

Ok, let me try try to check properly and see how tongue.gif

thanks! You are most helpful smile.gif
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HDMI output must be from the ATi drivers itself iinm..

That's how it works on my system with Nvidia Graphics.. If not there will be no sound through HDMI output..
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Yup, the sound are included in the driver nod.gif...usually installed the driver would be installing the HDMI audio/video also...
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ May 1 2010, 09:06 AM)
HDMI output must be from the ATi drivers itself iinm..

That's how it works on my system with Nvidia Graphics.. If not there will be no sound through HDMI output..
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Actually it's the ATI HDMI output also. Although Realtek HDMI output is shown on the playback devices list, but under it there's a grey wording saying ATI HDMI output.
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haih .. now having a bit problem with the keyboard..
sometimes i start my laptop , and the keyboad is not functioning at all in windows = =
this error occured twice so far...
i have to restart laptop for the keyboard to work

is software error or hardware failure ? bios problem ?


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QUOTE(gstoh @ May 1 2010, 10:50 AM)
haih .. now having a bit problem with the keyboard..
sometimes i start my laptop , and the keyboad is not functioning  at all in windows = =
this error occured twice so far...
i have to restart laptop for the keyboard to work

is software error or hardware failure ? bios problem ?
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Might be a software/hardware problem rather than BIOS. If possible just call Lenovo and let them know the situation and see how would they suggest.
If it happens too often, I'll just call them but it's up to you. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Maverick_Neutron @ Apr 30 2010, 10:11 PM)
Theres a wireless backlit keyboard out there? Holy shit.. I always wanted one!1 Where?!
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got ah... i quite a few models in lowyat. the premium ones would be the razer keyboards... there's another brand, can't remember the name. u go there scout scout and see la smile.gif
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razer got wireless keyboard?
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 1 2010, 11:06 AM)
Might be a software/hardware problem rather than BIOS. If possible just call Lenovo and let them know the situation and see how would they suggest.
If it happens too often, I'll just call them but it's up to you.  smile.gif
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is not happen to me .. y550 also has this problem
google it then u know ..
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I see. So far mine works fine.

@leng2

Actually Razer doesn't have wireless model of backlit keyboard. I haven't encounter any so far (thought the Logitech Illuminated keyboard was wireless, but it isn't, sigh...)
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QUOTE(leng2 @ May 1 2010, 01:01 PM)
got ah... i quite a few models in lowyat. the premium ones would be the razer keyboards... there's another brand, can't remember the name. u go there scout scout and see la smile.gif
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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ May 1 2010, 01:03 PM)
razer got wireless keyboard?
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@leng2

Actually Razer doesn't have wireless model of backlit keyboard. I haven't encounter any so far (thought the Logitech Illuminated keyboard was wireless, but it isn't, sigh...)
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I'm pretty sure Razer doesn't have a wireless KB, much less a wireless backlit one. I agree with jataro12, the Logitech Illuminated Keyboard is B-E-A-TIFUL!, but not wireless.. sad.. I heard Microsoft has a wireless backlit one, but I can't seem to find it, even on the Microsoft website... btw.. so off topic... biggrin.gif
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eh eh... paiseh paiseh... aiyah, i got all mixed up... sorry, backlit wired got, not wireless backlit...

lolz... wat was i thinking!

but anyway, i've seen 69 (onwards) bucks wireless desktop (keyboard+mouse) from various brands

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Just a preview of my few mins ago "early project" brows.gif

CAUTION: Below is the result of strictly trained professional and do not intend to use/implement to your lappy without having N thoughts about blew up. Cheers ! tongue.gif

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Will add it on 1st page later.
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u overclock it? i wonder can i overclock my 5730 lol..since it is overclocked version of 5650
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 1 2010, 09:45 PM)
Just a preview of my few mins ago "early project"  brows.gif

CAUTION: Below is the result of strictly trained professional and do not intend to use/implement to your lappy without having N thoughts about blew up. Cheers !  tongue.gif

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Will add it on 1st page later.
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what tool you use to overclock 5650 ? atitool ?
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The AMD GPU clock tool.
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The AMD GPU clock tool.
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your temperature is cool even it is overclock !
did you use cooler that time ?
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I think this will solve your problem.

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The updated audio driver fixes the following issue on Y460/560 systems: The unavailability of HD Audio when system is connected to HD Device via HDMI Cable.


Realtek HD Audio


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QUOTE(gstoh @ May 2 2010, 01:08 AM)
your temperature is cool even it is overclock !
did you use cooler that time ?
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Traditional cooler tongue.gif ... Just a fan. But it does stays @60C after i finished the test.

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The temp is very,very nice for an OCed GPU..i guess its not that HOT at all, 74C is thumbup.gif..even my S42 went 98C on stress test sweat.gif...

For a 14", maintaining temp @60C is already consider thumbup.gif & nice!!!
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 2 2010, 08:40 AM)
@samlee860407

I think this will solve your problem.
Realtek HD Audio


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Traditional cooler  tongue.gif ... Just a fan. But it does stays @60C after i finished the test.
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whao! thanks!

downloading now biggrin.gif
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i think i'll be buying lenovo Y460...after got advice from sifus here... question is;

1. in KL area where is the most cheapest/honest/suitable place to buy? i live in pahang btw but i always make a trip to kl.

2. how can i request for an extended warranty? izzit from the seller or directly from lenovo?

thank you.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 2 2010, 08:40 AM)
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I think this will solve your problem.
[url=http://consumersupport.lenovo.com/my/en/DriversDownLoads/Drivers_Show_26
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hm...i cant install it. it give me some sort of error when install halfway, and it says cannot install the driver :S


QUOTE(shimon @ May 2 2010, 11:06 AM)
i think i'll be buying lenovo Y460...after got advice from sifus here... question is;

1. in KL area where is the most cheapest/honest/suitable place to buy? i live in pahang btw but i always make a trip to kl.

2. how can i request for an extended warranty? izzit from the seller or directly from lenovo?

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for Q1 i dont know, for Q2, yes you can request for extended warranty. 3 years warranty cost extra rm300++. and you need to buy from the seller itself.
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hm...i cant install it. it give me some sort of error when install halfway, and it says cannot install the driver :S

Try unistall your own driver and software then proceed the upgrade step. Download the driver again if possible to make sure the file size is same.

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for Q1 i dont know, for Q2, yes you can request for extended warranty. 3 years warranty cost extra rm300++. and you need to buy from the seller itself.
Just go LYP where shops selling the model and don't expect to get unbeatable price, if you think it's reasonable, just go for it. Extended warranty can go through shops/sales agent. You can call Lenovo CC to get info on shops around your area which they do sell the warranty pack too.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 2 2010, 01:38 PM)
Try unistall your own driver and software then proceed the upgrade step. Download the driver again if possible to make sure the file size is same.
oo, thanks. can install already, but now instead of High definition output, when i open the sound (playback device), it now says Digital Audio (SPDIF) pulak, but not sure will it works or not
Cant test it until this weekend , sigh

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Can anyone tell me which shop can i get Lenovo Y460 in lowyat?? How much izzit??
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It's better to go there rather than asking us because we can't predict whether they have stock or not. They are all selling retail price for sure so do negotiate till you think it's reasonable. If not happy, turn to other shops, no hard feelings.
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this laptop suppose to have 500GB hdd right

how come when i sum up all include hidden partitions all that only 460GB? so much difference
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this laptop suppose to have 500GB hdd right

how come when i sum up all include hidden partitions all that only 460GB? so much difference
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this laptop suppose to have 500GB hdd right

how come when i sum up all include hidden partitions all that only 460GB? so much difference
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Can anyone tell me which shop can i get Lenovo Y460 in lowyat?? How much izzit??
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It's better to go there rather than asking us because we can't predict whether they have stock or not. They are all selling retail price for sure so do negotiate till you think it's reasonable. If not happy, turn to other shops, no hard feelings.
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Cos i am not in KL so i hv to confirm whether lowyat have sale lenovo or not.. Normally wat price should it be??
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Cos i am not in KL so i hv to confirm whether lowyat have sale lenovo or not.. Normally wat price should it be??
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hmm... after reading 16 pages about reformatting with bloat-ware free installation method. I still don't know how to do it. Forgive me for i have only started getting interested in computers both software and hardware not too long ago. I am really interested in y460. I'm not bothered by the heat as much as the effects of high temperature to the laptop (eg. shorter shelflife). Where can i get someone to do a good & clean installation that kills off the bloat-wares w/o disabling all the touch features and OKR?


Added on May 4, 2010, 1:51 amAlso, is it possible to manually uninstall ALL bloat-ware w/o reformatting or clean installation?

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ May 4 2010, 01:46 AM)
hmm... after reading 16 pages about reformatting with bloat-ware free installation method. I still don't know how to do it. Forgive me for i have only started getting interested in computers both software and hardware not too long ago. I am really interested in y460. I'm not bothered by the heat as much as the effects of high temperature to the laptop (eg. shorter shelflife). Where can i get someone to do a good & clean installation that kills off the bloat-wares w/o disabling all the touch features and OKR?


Added on May 4, 2010, 1:51 amAlso, is it possible to manually uninstall ALL bloat-ware w/o reformatting or clean installation?
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but a clean reinstallation would be better...
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now i actually abit regret.

shud have try all the bloatware 1st before format @@
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what games ati 5650 lag while played??
Played Assassin's Creed II last night using 1280x720 w/ all max settings. I'm using my 22 inch LCD as main screen though. (Can't use 1680x1050, too heavy lol or 1366x768 as no selection) Smooth as average more than 30FPS for sure. biggrin.gif

Most recent games are definitely playable using HD5650. Lagging while gaming is letting you know you need to lower some settings like AA, resolution, graphic details etc. Just don't expect it to have all smooth gaming as it's a mid range GC only.
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Played Assassin's Creed II last night using 1280x720 w/ all max settings. I'm using my 22 inch LCD as main screen though. (Can't use 1680x1050, too heavy lol or 1366x768 as no selection) Smooth as average more than 30FPS for sure.  biggrin.gif

Most recent games are definitely playable using HD5650. Lagging while gaming is letting you know you need to lower some settings like AA, resolution, graphic details etc. Just don't expect it to have all smooth gaming as it's a mid range GC only.
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It's my own laptop, of course it's meant for 'work', hehe tongue.gif. Hardly play games these days coz not many titles attract my taste except a few. Heard the new Splinter Cell came out so that will be on my list too.
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There's no i5 520M version...
only i5 430M@RM3299 and i5 540M@RM3599...
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a Y460 user here also...
js bought it 2weeks ago but d next day my HDD got some annoying sound...
sent bac to the SC at SS14 & within 2days they already sms me to collect the lappie....
Changed a new HDD for me & helped me reformat so do do partition for me..as we al kno d factory partition is 460GB/40GB...
so now 100GB/400Gb
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Great to hear that.

Btw, the new Lenovo SC at LYP is already open for "business". smile.gif
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Great to hear that.

Btw, the new Lenovo SC at LYP is already open for "business". smile.gif
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PJ is nearer to me...if can if thy hav it at Klang... rclxms.gif
sorry bro...as i stil new it IT & this machine....so any things to teach me?
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Teach?? We can share our experience if you like to smile.gif. Hmmm, if possible you can do your own observation of your laptop's temperature to see how efficient your temp would go. Mine at home, non air cond room, CPU min 39-41C, load 49-51C, max 66-68C(gaming). Monitor your temp does help you know that your laptop is working happily or sad/anger(heavy load lol...)

I do found out an answer(I guess...) why some people complaint about heat especially during gaming if you're in for hours. I've played AC 2 just now for 2 hours+ with max temp I checked it's just 72C on GPU-Z(ave. 68C). The problem lies on the material of the glossy surface which do hold the heat w/o spreading fast enough thru the other parts like heatsink and causes you felt uncomfortable using the keyboard for longer period especially FPS gaming. I do amaze the max temperature it hit smile.gif. Thanks to bro gstoh regarding tips on switching to super saver mode before you game and you'll see/feel the difference.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 6 2010, 01:37 AM)
Teach?? We can share our experience if you like to smile.gif. Hmmm, if possible you can do your own observation of your laptop's temperature to see how efficient your temp would go. Mine at home, non air cond room, CPU min 39-41C, load 49-51C, max 66-68C(gaming). Monitor your temp does help you know that your laptop is working happily or sad/anger(heavy load lol...)

I do found out an answer(I guess...) why some people complaint about heat especially during gaming if you're in for hours. I've played AC 2 just now for 2 hours+ with max temp I checked it's just 72C on GPU-Z(ave. 68C). The problem lies on the material of the glossy surface which do hold the heat w/o spreading fast enough thru the other parts like heatsink and causes you felt uncomfortable using the keyboard for longer period especially FPS gaming. I do amaze the max temperature it hit smile.gif. Thanks to bro gstoh regarding tips on switching to super saver mode before you game and you'll see/feel the difference.
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I'm still not convinced whether this y460 is a good buy. what do u think being a user. do u think it's a good buy?
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I'm still not convinced whether this y460 is a good buy. what do u think being a user. do u think it's a good buy?
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what lead to a good buy for you? and which other model you are comparing with?

for me its a good buy for my budget
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No doubt Y460 still reign the best bang for the buck in 3k-4k range for these 2 months. If you can wait for others, it's fine, but how long would it be? I've been waiting to replace my old laptop since late March and I still think Vostro 3700 is an unbeatable laptop in terms of price/performance, too bad my order got postponed and I had to cancel it. It's good to know some specs do excel against Y460, but NONE of them officially make/selling it in M'sia atm.

Technology will grow daily and you can't wait forever to get your decent laptop. Just pick what's available in the market, if no, go for desktop then lol.
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Hi There all!

New Lenovo Y460 user here...

hmm.gif ...there's a question that i need to ask u all...


Just would like to inform u guys, did u all tried to update the BIOS for this model?

just now i've found out that some user faced problem when updating their BIOS...
below is the link address:

Lenovo Y460 BIOS Problem


.. hmm.gif and looks like im gonna have to take alook at the Temp for this model (based on default configuration)...

after that, configure the laptop based on what gstoh suggested,
tips on switching to super saver mode before you playing game smile.gif


UPDATE: sorry, just now i've found out that Lenovo website have restored back the BIOS to the previous version..

previous problem faced by 64bit user...
BIOS 64bit version - 43
BIOS 32bit version - 47

link address to update Lenovo Y460 drivers: Lenovo Y460 Driver Update

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Welcome to the club! rclxms.gif
I think the recent Y460s are already w/ the latest BIOS, so no need to flash. Mine manufactured @16th March and it's already on the latest BIOS version so you guys can use it as a guide.

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I think you still can get the i5 430M, but you might have to go to LYP/DM to check with them to see whether stocks available.
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wahahah, just get myself a wireless keyboard and mouse, cheap cheap one, but ok la biggrin.gif

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No doubt Y460 still reign the best bang for the buck in 3k-4k range for these 2 months. If you can wait for others, it's fine, but how long would it be? I've been waiting to replace my old laptop since late March and I still think Vostro 3700 is an unbeatable laptop in terms of price/performance, too bad my order got postponed and I had to cancel it. It's good to know some specs do excel against Y460, but NONE of them officially make/selling it in M'sia atm.

Technology will grow daily and you can't wait forever to get your decent laptop. Just pick what's available in the market, if no, go for desktop then lol.
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thank you for the invaluable advice. i'll be buying mine in June hopefully. until then i'll have more to post (mostly questions on how to operate the machine). hahah i regretted for not immersing myself into technology in the earlier years.


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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 6 2010, 07:33 AM)
what lead to a good buy for you? and which other model you are comparing with?

for me its a good buy for my budget
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good processor, battery life, graphics and to sum it all up. a good all-rounder laptop. my budget is about 4.5k. do u have any suggestion? =)

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For the rm3599 version, the processor is very good already, especially for gaming, and when you are using applications that don't utilize quad core. I think for lappie below rm5k that's shud be the best dual core procsessor (might be wrong)

the GC is good too, but don't expect to play all games in max setting la

battery life I don't knw, haven't try yet

all in all, it's a darn good laptop for it price, other 14" competitor are the Sony CW and EA16, asus n82jv. Specs is almost the same, but more pricey, pay for brand name lo.

Reliability I don't knw yet, still too soon to say.

Those I mentioned are 14" la, if u want/don't mind bigger screen, then u got more option smile.gif
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 6 2010, 01:37 AM)
Teach?? We can share our experience if you like to smile.gif. Hmmm, if possible you can do your own observation of your laptop's temperature to see how efficient your temp would go. Mine at home, non air cond room, CPU min 39-41C, load 49-51C, max 66-68C(gaming). Monitor your temp does help you know that your laptop is working happily or sad/anger(heavy load lol...)

I do found out an answer(I guess...) why some people complaint about heat especially during gaming if you're in for hours. I've played AC 2 just now for 2 hours+ with max temp I checked it's just 72C on GPU-Z(ave. 68C). The problem lies on the material of the glossy surface which do hold the heat w/o spreading fast enough thru the other parts like heatsink and causes you felt uncomfortable using the keyboard for longer period especially FPS gaming. I do amaze the max temperature it hit smile.gif. Thanks to bro gstoh regarding tips on switching to super saver mode before you game and you'll see/feel the difference.
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sorry bro may i kno how 2 check d temp?
i tried 2 play wit it bt stil not familiar....
o ya...i din use tis laptop for heavy use...
for tis moments js online & do paper works...
so far tis Y460 is a good catch for my side as i ad surveyed for months for all models
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 6 2010, 05:02 PM)
For the rm3599 version, the processor is very good already, especially for gaming, and when you are using applications that don't utilize quad core. I think for lappie below rm5k that's shud be the best dual core procsessor (might be wrong)

the GC is good too, but don't expect to play all games in max setting la

battery life I don't knw, haven't try yet

all in all, it's a darn good laptop for it price, other 14" competitor are the Sony CW and EA16, asus n82jv. Specs is almost the same, but more pricey, pay for brand name lo.

Reliability I don't knw yet, still too soon to say.

Those I mentioned are 14" la, if u want/don't mind bigger screen, then u got more option smile.gif
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yeah the last thing i want to do it pay for brand names. hahah i heard from a dude in MV, he said it's about 4 hours but he's selling the 540 at rm3799.
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brand name does affect reliability, quality and after sales service

how good is asus, sony and lenovo after sales service i don't know, but seems reliability wise 3 brands macam quite ok, but then again it all depends on luck lol
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sorry bro may i kno how 2 check d temp?
i tried 2 play wit it bt stil not familiar....
o ya...i din use tis laptop for heavy use...
for tis moments js online & do paper works...
so far tis Y460 is a good catch for my side as i ad surveyed for months for all models
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You can use GPU-Z to monitor your graphic card's temp; HWMonitor and Everest for most of your hardware's temp. If possible, make it like a casual science project where temperature are recorded based on starting up, idle, load, long hours etc so you can know your lappy better smile.gif .

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What should i know, do or check before i purchase y460 at a lenovo store? thanks once again. =)
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Just routine check would be fine, like specs, keyboard, buttons etc. The Y460 box only contained the laptop, battery, adapter+cord and setup guides manual.


P/S: I've updated the OC score on the 1st page so feel free to comment. smile.gif

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 6 2010, 11:35 AM)
Welcome to the club!  rclxms.gif
I think the recent Y460s are already w/ the latest BIOS, so no need to flash. Mine manufactured @16th March and it's already on the latest BIOS version so you guys can use it as a guide.

@marky

I think you still can get the i5 430M, but you might have to go to LYP/DM to check with them to see whether stocks available.
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yeah the last thing i want to do it pay for brand names. hahah i heard from a dude in MV, he said it's about 4 hours but he's selling the 540 at rm3799.
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u mean d MV Lenovo shop?
they r playing the price...last time i asked thy r selling RM3699 then wan charge me 5.5% for installment plan & if i use credit card 2 swipe 1shoot they wil charge me 4% rclxub.gif vmad.gif

B4 i bought mine Y460 at lowyat...i asked PC3 & they are selling RM3699 also...but as i kno the market price is RM3599 vmad.gif disccused with the SA but also thy die die also say RM3699 even i dun1 d free gifts... rclxub.gif

Till the end asked my fren 2 grab for me bcs whole lowyat is out of stock..... doh.gif except PC3....which selling RM3699


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You can use GPU-Z to monitor your graphic card's temp; HWMonitor and Everest for most of your hardware's temp. If possible, make it like a casual science project where temperature are recorded based on starting up, idle, load, long hours etc so you can know your lappy better  smile.gif .
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Thanks bro..i wil do it on next week whn i outstation as in office i cant download thiings... mad.gif

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Just use CPU-z to check on your laptop BIOS.

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mine also manufactured @ 16th March 2010...means i also nonit 2 flash the bios? rclxms.gif


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u mean d MV Lenovo shop?
they r playing the price...last time i asked thy r selling RM3699 then wan charge me 5.5% for installment plan & if i use credit card 2 swipe 1shoot they wil charge me 4% rclxub.gif  vmad.gif

B4 i bought mine Y460 at lowyat...i asked PC3 & they are selling RM3699 also...but as i kno the market price is RM3599 vmad.gif disccused with the SA but also thy die die also say RM3699 even i dun1 d free gifts... rclxub.gif

Till the end asked my fren 2 grab for me bcs whole lowyat is out of stock..... doh.gif except PC3....which selling RM3699


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Thanks bro..i wil do it on next week whn i outstation as in office i cant download thiings... mad.gif
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Why don't you get from our forum member?
Go search for the seller in garage sale (ahem, he's from T**ping). He quoted me RM3500 for Y460 + RM30 hassle-free postage to your door step.

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QUOTE(^bAbym310n^ @ May 7 2010, 09:30 AM)
mine also manufactured @ 16th March 2010...means i also nonit 2 flash the bios? rclxms.gif


Added on May 7, 2010, 9:34 am
u mean d MV Lenovo shop?
they r playing the price...last time i asked thy r selling RM3699 then wan charge me 5.5% for installment plan & if i use credit card 2 swipe 1shoot they wil charge me 4% rclxub.gif  vmad.gif

B4 i bought mine Y460 at lowyat...i asked PC3 & they are selling RM3699 also...but as i kno the market price is RM3599 vmad.gif disccused with the SA but also thy die die also say RM3699 even i dun1 d free gifts... rclxub.gif

Till the end asked my fren 2 grab for me bcs whole lowyat is out of stock..... doh.gif except PC3....which selling RM3699


Added on May 7, 2010, 9:36 am
Thanks bro..i wil do it on next week whn i outstation as in office i cant download thiings... mad.gif
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u mean d MV Lenovo shop?
they r playing the price...last time i asked thy r selling RM3699 then wan charge me 5.5% for installment plan & if i use credit card 2 swipe 1shoot they wil charge me 4% rclxub.gif  vmad.gif

B4 i bought mine Y460 at lowyat...i asked PC3 & they are selling RM3699 also...but as i kno the market price is RM3599 vmad.gif disccused with the SA but also thy die die also say RM3699 even i dun1 d free gifts... rclxub.gif

Till the end asked my fren 2 grab for me bcs whole lowyat is out of stock..... doh.gif except PC3....which selling RM3699
This is a common scene in LYP whereby they'll know the stock availability of other shops and decide whether it's own price should remain/jack up/lower down. If you have an item which is hot selling and there's no stocks on other shops, I'm sure you'll jack it up too to make more profit sweat.gif . The other way to avoid this would be order from shops and wait for the stock to arrive, as you let them know the SRP 1st and see how much discount they can give. If agree, pay the down payment and wait.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 7 2010, 09:39 AM)
Why don't you get from our forum member?
Go search for the seller in garage sale (ahem, he's from T**ping). He quoted me RM3500 for Y460 + RM30 hassle-free postage to your door step.
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how bout warranty and free gifts and card payment? what if the laptop came faulty? i know it's a lot of questions at one time but enlighten me. =)
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 6 2010, 08:47 PM)
You can use GPU-Z to monitor your graphic card's temp; HWMonitor and Everest for most of your hardware's temp. If possible, make it like a casual science project where temperature are recorded based on starting up, idle, load, long hours etc so you can know your lappy better  smile.gif .
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smile.gif ok... will try to test it out..

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P/S: I've updated the OC score on the 1st page so feel free to comment. smile.gif
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..jotaro, how did you manage to do that?
hmm.gif just wanna know.. smile.gif
but first i will take alook at the current settings & see how it goes..
especially on the temp part...

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how bout warranty and free gifts and card payment? what if the laptop came faulty? i know it's a lot of questions at one time but enlighten me. =)
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hmm.gif ..on the warranty part, you can refer to this link address
Lenovo Ideapad Service Center

you just need to give them the machine serial & model number for your laptop model.. nod.gif

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Hey guys, noob question: I want to put an SSD into the Y460, but unfortunately I don't have a budget to buy a high capacity one, probably only could afford a 80GB disk. Is the laptop limited to only 1 slot and do you think it would be worth the hassle to use an 80GB SSD only?

Storage isn't my main concern btw, all my movies and songs are mostly on the externals. But I do play alot of games, which could take up alot of space...
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Hey guys, noob question: I want to put an SSD into the Y460, but unfortunately I don't have a budget to buy a high capacity one, probably only could afford a 80GB disk. Is the laptop limited to only 1 slot and do you think it would be worth the hassle to use an 80GB SSD only?

Storage isn't my main concern btw, all my movies and songs are mostly on the externals. But I do play alot of games, which could take up alot of space...
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You'll get the most performance gain from SSD upgrade.
It is a MUST upgrade for notebook if you want to boost the overall performance.
64GB or 80GB should be find.

Yes, there is only 1 slot for your notebook.

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Will the warranty void after we change using SSD?

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Will the warranty void after we change using SSD?

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It depends on whether there is a "warranty void" sticker on cover under the notebook.

For Acer, there is sticker right on the screw hole. You have to tear the sticker before you can remove the screw and cover.
However, for ASUS, i think there is no sticker.

I check with Acer SC, they say they will honor the warranty as the warranty is based on the S/N of the notebook.
They don't really look at the "warranty void" sticker.
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If no, you can just open the cover and slot in the SSD.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 7 2010, 09:39 AM)
Why don't you get from our forum member?
Go search for the seller in garage sale (ahem, he's from T**ping). He quoted me RM3500 for Y460 + RM30 hassle-free postage to your door step.
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QUOTE(leng2 @ May 7 2010, 10:09 AM)
i used card (to do installment) for rm3550 flat, with the cordless phone compulsory free gift. i think you got urs slightly overpriced.
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i tink u get urs at pc fair?
At pc fair...i got asked around bt too bad tat thy told me...
all Y460 with i5 540m ad sold out vmad.gif


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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 7 2010, 11:39 AM)
This is a common scene in LYP whereby they'll know the stock availability of other shops and decide whether it's own price should remain/jack up/lower down. If you have an item which is hot selling and there's no stocks on other shops, I'm sure you'll jack it up too to make more profit  sweat.gif . The other way to avoid this would be order from shops and wait for the stock to arrive, as you let them know the SRP 1st and see how much discount they can give. If agree, pay the down payment and wait.
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so till d end i bought from my fren..which i am willing to pay for the handling charges to him than to those that jack d price up...as he gav me a good price... rclxms.gif

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For me, it's still not the time to replace my HDD to SSD just a simple fact, capacity. You'll love the speedy boot up, transfer files and accessing HDD but in end, capacity will be your main concern which most games and programs take up many spaces within few months. You can store your programs on another external drive but it's not the best solution imo.

Btw, SSD doesn't make much of a difference in gaming.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 7 2010, 02:40 PM)
For me, it's still not the time to replace my HDD to SSD just a simple fact, capacity. You'll love the speedy boot up, transfer files and accessing HDD but in end, capacity will be your main concern which most games and programs take up many spaces within few months. You can store your programs on another external drive but it's not the best solution imo.

Btw, SSD doesn't make much of a difference in gaming.
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Hrmm, you have a point, the price/capacity ratio is way too screwed up for SDDs. But, IINM the Y460 comes with a 500GB 5200RPM HD, would the performance boost be noticable if I change it to a 7200RPM unit? Coz I multitask alot and I really appreciate the speedy access times. An SSD would probably reduce alot of heat and increase battery life at the same time., although the price is still too high and the capacity is too low... hrmm... hmm.gif

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Pros & Cons between SSD & HDD.
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Hrmm, you have a point, the price/capacity ratio is way too screwed up for SDDs. But, IINM the Y460 comes with a 500GB 5200RPM HD, would the performance boost be noticable if I change it to a 7200RPM unit? Coz I multitask alot and I really appreciate the speedy access times. An SSD would probably reduce alot of heat and increase battery life at the same time., although the price is still too high and the capacity is too low... hrmm...  hmm.gif
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I have used 2.5" 7200rpm HDD.
The performance is no where near the SSD.
For notebook, upgrading to SSD will give you excellent performance gain.
I can't resist to SSD now.

I even upgraded to SSD for my netbook.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/830613/+1267

With SSD, your notebook is no longer notebook. It's running like high performance desktop.
With SSD, your netbook is no longer netbook. It's running like notebook.
Get what I mean? laugh.gif


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wahahah, just get myself a wireless keyboard and mouse, cheap cheap one, but ok la biggrin.gif

this weekend can enjoice liao biggrin.gif
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sam, did u try to game with the wireless keyboard & mouse? say like first person shooter game... any lag or not?
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sam, did u try to game with the wireless keyboard & mouse? say like first person shooter game... any lag or not?
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good question. I try it with GTA4, seems laggy. But don't knw isit game requirement too high hence lag or what.

Later try play with normal one see how
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good question. I try it with GTA4, seems laggy. But don't knw isit game requirement too high hence lag or what.

Later try play with normal one see how
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Why not lower the settings? use medium?
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lagging as in control's lag, not the graphics lag...
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 7 2010, 03:45 PM)
I have used 2.5" 7200rpm HDD.
The performance is no where near the SSD.
For notebook, upgrading to SSD will give you excellent performance gain.
I can't resist to SSD now.

I even upgraded to SSD for my netbook.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/830613/+1267

With SSD, your notebook is no longer notebook. It's running like high performance desktop.
With SSD, your netbook is no longer netbook. It's running like notebook.
Get what I mean?  laugh.gif
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Bro, any changes in the power consumption after changed to SSD? Should be better in theory right? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 7 2010, 04:24 PM)
good question. I try it with GTA4, seems laggy. But don't knw isit game requirement too high hence lag or what.

Later try play with normal one see how
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GTA 4 does require bit more juice than usual games so it's better to do a benchmark test which comes with it and see which settings play nice with HD 5650. smile.gif
As for keyboard lag, that might related to graphics also, but you can try switch between laptop keyboard and wireless to see the difference.
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ May 7 2010, 08:58 PM)
Why not lower the settings? use medium?
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QUOTE(leng2 @ May 7 2010, 10:21 PM)
lagging as in control's lag, not the graphics lag...
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control lag macam tarak eh

QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 7 2010, 10:34 PM)
GTA 4 does require bit more juice than usual games so it's better to do a benchmark test which comes with it and see which settings play nice with HD 5650. smile.gif
As for keyboard lag, that might related to graphics also, but you can try switch between laptop keyboard and wireless to see the difference.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 7 2010, 03:45 PM)
I have used 2.5" 7200rpm HDD.
The performance is no where near the SSD.
For notebook, upgrading to SSD will give you excellent performance gain.
I can't resist to SSD now.

I even upgraded to SSD for my netbook.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/830613/+1267

With SSD, your notebook is no longer notebook. It's running like high performance desktop.
With SSD, your netbook is no longer netbook. It's running like notebook.
Get what I mean?  laugh.gif
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If change to SSD, how to clone the HDD data to SSD? Any recommended software to do so?

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Bro, any changes in the power consumption after changed to SSD? Should be better in theory right? hmm.gif
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Theoretically SSD should have slight lower power consumption. But i think it negligible.
However, you'll find SSD runs at much lower temperature. SSD is lighter too.

For notebook, there are not many parts you can replace to boost the performance.
SSD becomes the most crucial upgrade for notebook & netbook.
You just can't skip that.

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Bro, you sound like an ambassador or a priest from the temple of SSD.. heh.. jk chill. But yeah, can't deny the facts that its a big performance boost. If the Y460 has 2 HD bays, it would be a no brainer, but unfortunately has only 1.. so, have to think about it abit.. I might go for it tho, an 80GB module could be bearable... just... biggrin.gif
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I wan to ask about the touchpad izzit sensitive as macbook??
I mean for double touch function.. ^^
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here is the test on Modern Warfare 2:

NOTE: this is based on Power Plan setting - i've choose Power Saver mode (with a lil'bit changes on it's own current setting)
this test also is on plug-in - without using battery
if i didnt make any changes on the current setting (Power Saver mode),
the temp will be a lil'bit higher (around 3c-5c)
game setting: high

during the test:
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after the test:
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..next will try to test it out on SC - FA (Supreme Commander 2 - Forged Alliance)

biggrin.gif in the future, will test it out on Supreme Commander 2, Dirt 2 ..

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The temp on your laptop does look good but somehow I'm a bit curious why your GPU clock is lower than usual... it should be 450/800 idle and 550/800 load.

If you have a screenshot on GPU-Z showing the HD 5650 info, that will let us know more smile.gif.
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Active Image 4.0 / Acronis True Image 2010 / Norton Ghost can do the job just fine.


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Bro, you sound like an ambassador or a priest from the temple of SSD.. heh.. jk chill. But yeah, can't deny the facts that its a big performance boost. If the Y460 has 2 HD bays, it would be a no brainer, but unfortunately has only 1.. so, have to think about it abit.. I might go for it tho, an 80GB module could be bearable... just... biggrin.gif
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Storage is not an issue.
You can have SSD in your notebook.
Take out the HDD from your notebook, get an enclosure and use it as external storage.


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for notebook, shud be using :

Intel X-25M Gen 2 80GB SSD rite?

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hey sam... how did the game test with wireless keyboard+mice go?
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hey sam... how did the game test with wireless keyboard+mice go?
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for notebook, shud be using :

Intel X-25M Gen 2 80GB SSD rite?
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Both 80GB X-25M and 64GB Kingston SSD Now+ are the good SSD.

I have both. x-25M in my 5745G and Kingston in my netbook.
x-25M has the fastest read speed.
Kingston SSD+ is slightly slower but it has balance performance in both read/write.

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good to hear that... which brand+model u using and how much?
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but just bought another one, logitech one, cheapest version too. haha.

gona get another 1 soon biggrin.gif

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Both 80GB X-25M and 64GB Kingston SSD Now+ are the good SSD.

I have both. x-25M in my 5745G and Kingston in my netbook.
x-25M has the fastest read speed.
Kingston SSD+ is slightly slower but it has balance performance in both read/write.
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gona consider liao tongue.gif


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wow..this ssd seems like a great deal. what is the price market now? oh and do u guys know any free softwares to recover deleted files
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I just booked the Y460 and paid the deposit for the RM 3599 version. I was planning to get the SXPS 16 with ATI 5730 but I don't want to play the waiting game forever. Y460 is the only laptop readily available locally with ATI 5650. Other laptops like ASUS or 4820tg Acer are either out of stock or only have the ATI 5450 option.

I tried to find reviews of this laptop online but so far I can only find news listing about Y460. Thus I relied mostly on this forum thread to know more about this laptop. From what I gather, Y460 runs hot but if I use a laptop cooler, it should be fine. Will there be throttling issues like the SXPS when the cpu goes above 80C?

Lastly, I heard that dx11 games run faster than dx10. However a lot of times, I heard low to mid end cards like 5450 and 5650 are unable to use dx11 though on paper they can. I'm confused by these two seemingly contradictory statements. Could an expert enlighten me please? Thanks.

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QUOTE(TealTurino @ May 8 2010, 02:14 PM)
I just booked the Y460 and paid the deposit for the RM 5599 version. I was planning to get the SXPS 16 with ATI 5730 but I don't want to play the waiting game forever. Y460 is the only laptop readily available locally with ATI 5650. Other laptops like ASUS or 4820tg Acer are either out of stock or only have the ATI 5450 option.

I tried to find reviews of this laptop online but so far I can only find news listing about Y460. Thus I relied mostly on this forum thread to know more about this laptop. From what I gather, Y460 runs hot but if I use a laptop cooler, it should be fine. Will there be throttling issues like the SXPS when the cpu goes above 80C?

Lastly, I heard that dx11 games run faster than dx10. However a lot of times, I heard low to mid end cards like 5450 and 5650 are unable to use dx11 though on paper they can. I'm confused by these two seemingly contradictory statements. Could an expert enlighten me please? Thanks.
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The temp on your laptop does look good but somehow I'm a bit curious why your GPU clock is lower than usual... it should be 450/800 idle and 550/800 load.

If you have a screenshot on GPU-Z showing the HD 5650 info, that will let us know more smile.gif.
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hi . . . i having the same problem as mie 131085 it seem like my GPU in idle mode is 100/150 and 300/300 at load. and i wondering where can i download the latest GPU driver for this laptop. thx tongue.gif

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i think i found the problem edi . . . its the graphic card power play option. Even though im using plugged in mode but before i use plugged in mode im using battery so after plugged in, i need to manually change the plugged in to maximize performance. LOL i duno why . . . by default it shud detect itself. BTW does anyone know where can i download the latest GPU driver for this laptop . . . Thx smile.gif

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QUOTE(TealTurino @ May 8 2010, 02:14 PM)
I just booked the Y460 and paid the deposit for the RM 5599 version. I was planning to get the SXPS 16 with ATI 5730 but I don't want to play the waiting game forever. Y460 is the only laptop readily available locally with ATI 5650. Other laptops like ASUS or 4820tg Acer are either out of stock or only have the ATI 5450 option.

I tried to find reviews of this laptop online but so far I can only find news listing about Y460. Thus I relied mostly on this forum thread to know more about this laptop. From what I gather, Y460 runs hot but if I use a laptop cooler, it should be fine. Will there be throttling issues like the SXPS when the cpu goes above 80C?

Lastly, I heard that dx11 games run faster than dx10. However a lot of times, I heard low to mid end cards like 5450 and 5650 are unable to use dx11 though on paper they can. I'm confused by these two seemingly contradictory statements. Could an expert enlighten me please? Thanks.
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Wow, at RM5599, it's the most expensive Y460 thus far....mind to share what's the spec? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(bluesky413 @ May 8 2010, 02:43 PM)
hi . . . i having the same problem as mie 131085 it seem like my GPU in idle mode is 100/150 and 300/300 at load. and i wondering where can i download the latest GPU driver for this laptop. thx  tongue.gif

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bcoz i notice when u choose the power plan setting,
it also will affect the graphic card performance..
..try take alook at ur power plan setting.. on advanced power setting
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this laptop so many weird noise from inside la.. u guys have any noise?

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It's a typo. Should be RM 3566.
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i had tested it with GTA4 :EFLC with the following setting

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after i change to some setting to medium , it seem like not much change

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Even though it's 20+ FPS but it also quite lag, the movement is like teleporting.

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teleporting? not so cham la...

but my FPS 27 oooo
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QUOTE(bluesky413 @ May 8 2010, 03:48 PM)
Statistics
Average FPS: 23.26
Duration: 33.23 sec
CPU Usage: 67%
System memory usage: 68%
Video memory usage: 57%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1366 x 768 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: High
Shadow Quality: High
Reflection Resolution: High
Water Quality: High
Texture Filter Quality: Anisotropic x4


Even though it's 20+ FPS but it also quite lag, the movement is like teleporting.
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Try change the AF setting to none and see how it performs. Try use High Performance mode and see how it goes too. smile.gif As for GPU-Z, even the latest version isn't able to accurately detect most mobile graphic's spec.

@synz

What kinda sound you're mentioning? HDD? Fan?


Btw, I've confirmed you can OC HD 5650 to 5730 w/ the same heat produce(idle/load) so it's safe thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 8 2010, 05:09 PM)
Try change the AF setting to none and see how it performs. Try use High Performance mode and see how it goes too. smile.gif As for GPU-Z, even the latest version isn't able to accurately detect most mobile graphic's spec.

@synz

What kinda sound you're mentioning? HDD? Fan?
Btw, I've confirmed you can OC HD 5650 to 5730 w/ the same heat produce(idle/load) so it's safe  thumbup.gif
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probably a noob question but how do u overclock hd 5650?
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Wow really? But how bout the voltage? Any changes? My guess is no changes if no heat difference produced...hmmm
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QUOTE(TealTurino @ May 8 2010, 02:14 PM)
I just booked the Y460 and paid the deposit for the RM 3599 version. I was planning to get the SXPS 16 with ATI 5730 but I don't want to play the waiting game forever. Y460 is the only laptop readily available locally with ATI 5650. Other laptops like ASUS or 4820tg Acer are either out of stock or only have the ATI 5450 option.

I tried to find reviews of this laptop online but so far I can only find news listing about Y460. Thus I relied mostly on this forum thread to know more about this laptop. From what I gather, Y460 runs hot but if I use a laptop cooler, it should be fine. Will there be throttling issues like the SXPS when the cpu goes above 80C?

Lastly, I heard that dx11 games run faster than dx10. However a lot of times, I heard low to mid end cards like 5450 and 5650 are unable to use dx11 though on paper they can. I'm confused by these two seemingly contradictory statements. Could an expert enlighten me please? Thanks.
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Y460 will not throtle the CPU speed even it is hot(more than 90C) , that's why it can produce a lot of heat when stressing

if you want your y460 to produce less heat, then you can manually throtle your cpu power, it definitely procduce less heat, but poorer performnace too.

you can either choose performnace or heat reduction, you can't have both
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Had another gaming session for >2 hours playing AC 2. Screenshot took while I'm just past 2 hours mark.
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Game @all high settings 1280X720. OCed to HD 5730 and lowered CPU speed. GPU ave. 68C so the heat is bearable thumbup.gif .

@rubrubrub

the answer is already on last few pages.

@Izwan898

No need voltage tweak.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 8 2010, 10:03 AM)
@Mie131085

The temp on your laptop does look good but somehow I'm a bit curious why your GPU clock is lower than usual... it should be 450/800 idle and 550/800 load.

If you have a screenshot on GPU-Z showing the HD 5650 info, that will let us know more smile.gif.
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Here is my GPU HD 5650 Info:
Left - Maximize Performance, Right - Maximize Battery Life
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i made changes on power option (on advanced power settings):
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also can be changed at Catalyst control (Power Play):
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yep, by doing this, it does affect the game performance, tongue.gif

this setting (Maximize Battery Life) is good for for some games that utilize less than 300MHz GPU Clock
by doing this, user can have a more longer battery life nod.gif

for heavy games, better use Maximize Performance (400 - 500MHz) instead tongue.gif

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just oced mine as well...but the temp reach up to 85'C while gaming just for 30mins...
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@wztech

You're using the HD 5730 clock or others? Maybe let us know which game you're playing and did you use gstoh's method to lower CPU clock?
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 9 2010, 04:48 PM)
@wztech

You're using the HD 5730 clock or others? Maybe let us know which game you're playing and did you use gstoh's method to lower CPU clock?
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im using the hd5730 clock and was only playing codmw...i didnt tried lowering the cpu clock yet..
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QUOTE(wztech @ May 9 2010, 05:23 PM)
im using the hd5730 clock and was only playing codmw...i didnt tried lowering the cpu clock yet..
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MW2 is not a graphic intensive game. Mind letting us know your idle/load temp for both GPU?
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 9 2010, 11:14 PM)
MW2 is not a graphic intensive game. Mind letting us know your idle/load temp for both GPU?
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nvm...i just stick with the stock clock...dun wan to take the risk.. sweat.gif
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hi, reading the part on OC i guess it wont void the warranty.

1) i just want to confirm it?
2) is any one planning to OC his GPU to higher frequencies than 5730 ( > 650/800 frequency) ?
3) i haven't OC'd a GPU before but do you think its recommend at least on 5730 frequency?
4) last question how about CPU overclocking i am sure this will void the warranty, but i would like to know if anyone did it on other type of laptop and was it effective?

Thx in advance
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Hmm~~~

Anybody having issue with this machine?
Tonight gonna hardcore gaming with this machine. The screen back side a bit 'lembik' compare to current Y530. lolz
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tis lappy good for decent gaming??
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Yup, its perfect for decent gaming
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ May 10 2010, 10:02 AM)
Hmm~~~

Anybody having issue with this machine?
Tonight gonna hardcore gaming with this machine. The screen back side a bit 'lembik' compare to current Y530. lolz
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yeah...the screen back side is kinda lembik and looks very fragile..
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ May 10 2010, 10:02 AM)
Hmm~~~

Anybody having issue with this machine?
Tonight gonna hardcore gaming with this machine. The screen back side a bit 'lembik' compare to current Y530. lolz
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yes, it can support most of games today..
try to read previous post on this thread,

regarding on heat..
u need to make sure that ur laptop have been configured based on what user suggested..

based on what Jotaro12 said:
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I believed that most of the heat problems which generated by users are found to be the software's fault, which is the default OS where bloatwares came with it in the 1st place. I've checked the task manager and found more than 80 processes running and while I was just browsing the features, the heat just generated, in a rather fast manner. With the new OS that I have now, having the same drivers and getting some software which I needed, I'm only getting normal laptop heat, 60-65 processes running(and I haven't go to msconfig to shut off the useless ones) and switching between ATI/Intel doesn't make a lot of difference. Lowest temp I got on it was 33C, normal usage using Intel GMA was 36-38C with browsing net and installing software. I hope this should clear out some of your minds and I'll continue my testing tomorrow. Thank you for reading


this can be done by checking ur startup setting (on msconfig, and disabled some other non-useful program)

and also please take alook at this (my previous post)

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hope it'l help smile.gif

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QUOTE(wztech @ May 10 2010, 02:38 PM)
yeah...the screen back side is kinda lembik and looks very fragile..
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Yup its fragile alright. The best would be Y530, kinda hard...Something like Think series case. lolz


QUOTE(Mie131085 @ May 10 2010, 03:19 PM)
yes, it can support most of games today..
try to read previous post on this thread,

regarding on heat..
u need to make sure that ur laptop have been configured based on what user suggested..

based on what Jotaro12 said:
this can be done by checking ur startup setting (on msconfig, and disabled some other non-useful program)

and also please take alook at this (my previous post)

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hope it'l help  smile.gif
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Normal, heat issue on GPU or CPU?

I tried Y550 & Y530, both also high temperature for the GPU. The Y530 temp for GPU max was 89C and 90C for Y550. Sighs.
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ May 10 2010, 03:28 PM)
Yup its fragile alright. The best would be Y530, kinda hard...Something like Think series case. lolz
Normal, heat issue on GPU or CPU?

I tried Y550 & Y530, both also high temperature for the GPU. The Y530 temp for GPU max was 89C and 90C for Y550. Sighs.
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sorry, forgot to tell you all, that post actually for customized power plan setting

based on my previous screenshot (on that post) -
GPU clock - 300MHz (actual performance - 500MHz)
GPU clock - 300MHz (actual performance - 799MHz)

so, for better performance - during playing game, you need to do the following (based on previous post - choose Maximize Performance) :
My Previous Post

and also do as what we've suggested (remove unused bloatware/startup)

NOTE: during playing the CODMW2 (based on that setting - test for 2 hour)
i can get the GPU temp max out around 70c tongue.gif

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Err~~ i have some question... If i want to format y460 laptop~~ can i download back all the driver from website? Does lenovo provide any win7 cd key ?

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hv anyone tested gta iv on lenovo y460 yet? how the result?
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QUOTE(bananalow @ May 10 2010, 05:04 PM)
Err~~ i have some question... If i want to format y460 laptop~~ can i download back all the driver from website? Does lenovo provide any win7 cd key ?
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yes you can,

the win 7 cd key is below ur laptop,
on serial number... iinm hmm.gif

..and for drivers you can go here:
Lenovo Y460 Driver

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NOTE: better use ur One Key Recovery Feature instead...
because One Key Recovery does comes with win 7 in it.... iinm...

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QUOTE(maolnorlexu @ May 10 2010, 05:09 PM)
hv anyone tested gta iv on lenovo y460 yet? how the result?
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tested and I can only say I will not ply gta4 on my y460

when I use benchmark test on default setting, I get 27fps

when I play. Alot of time especially when driving will lag, don't like it. Put at medium to low setting also same case sad.gif
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QUOTE(Mie131085 @ May 10 2010, 05:13 PM)
yes you can,

the win 7 cd key is below ur laptop,
on serial number... iinm  hmm.gif

..and for drivers you can go here:
Lenovo Y460 Driver

hmm.gif
NOTE: better use ur One Key Recovery Feature instead...
because One Key Recovery does comes with win 7 in it.... iinm...
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That will return your settings / windows to Original when you first receive / boot up.

good function thou, I love to do it when finish using the machine.

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just play game for a while cpu temp went up to 70++ C
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QUOTE(synz @ May 10 2010, 07:56 PM)
just play game for a while cpu temp went up to 70++ C
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Did you use gstoh's method? Do you use cooler pad? My method is use a block of polystyrene which is put underneath the back of my Y460 and create a space where I can get better air-flow on my vent below.

This is what I did

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im thinking to get something like evercool magic which sux the heat from side. but dont have model that fit the laptop side hole
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It's a good idea actually but there is no model that will clip on Y460's vent bcoz of it's design. The other option would be also from Evercool and where the cooler fan "park" next to your vent and suck the air out but I think it's not a good solution sad.gif.
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QUOTE(Mie131085 @ May 10 2010, 05:13 PM)
yes you can,

the win 7 cd key is below ur laptop,
on serial number... iinm  hmm.gif

..and for drivers you can go here:
Lenovo Y460 Driver

hmm.gif
NOTE: better use ur One Key Recovery Feature instead...
because One Key Recovery does comes with win 7 in it.... iinm...
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haha~~ just thinking of delete all bloatware~~
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Not bad for this spec...Today will test new arrived Z460. Integrated graphic, sighs.
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ May 11 2010, 06:57 AM)
Not bad for this spec...Today will test new arrived Z460. Integrated graphic, sighs.
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Well, can give a simple review for it later..not on this thread smile.gif..maybe can create another for it, though comes with Integrated GC, still some people prefer it over Dedicated because of battery life icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 11 2010, 08:10 AM)
Well, can give a simple review for it later..not on this thread smile.gif..maybe can create another for it, though comes with Integrated GC, still some people prefer it over Dedicated because of battery life icon_rolleyes.gif
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lol, received V460 instead.

Any recommended software to hardcore test benchmark + etc?

Recommend lai lai want test. Newly opened

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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ May 11 2010, 06:57 AM)
Not bad for this spec...Today will test new arrived Z460. Integrated graphic, sighs.
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sorry, what is the spec for this model?
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QUOTE(Mie131085 @ May 11 2010, 09:23 AM)
sorry, what is the spec for this model?
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see this attachment for z460... Now only having V460. Don't know the performance. Need good software to try.

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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ May 11 2010, 09:25 AM)
see this attachment for z460... Now only having V460. Don't know the performance. Need good software to try.
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does it have a GC inside it?

because from the spec that ur give just now doesnt come with GC...

but other site stated that Z460 comes with ATi Radeon HD 5145...

as what stated on this site: Lenovo Z460

NOTE: HD 5145 is lower than the HD 5650...

for Lenovo V460, IINM it cames with NVIDIA GeForce 310M 512MB and Intel HD intgrated GPU..

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QUOTE(Mie131085 @ May 11 2010, 09:49 AM)
does it have a GC inside it?

because from the spec that ur give just now doesnt come with GC...

but other site stated that Z460 comes with ATi Radeon HD 5145...

as what stated on this site: Lenovo Z460

NOTE: HD 5145 is lower than the HD 5650...

for Lenovo V460, IINM it cames with NVIDIA GeForce 310M 512MB and Intel HD intgrated GPU..
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It depends on the model which will be release thou. The spec that I'm having is for Singapore under Singtel promotion.
Lol, the V460 is running i3 M330 processor, switchable graphic button available. hmm. Any software can test the benchmark & etc?
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hi, i just want to check is the default clock 400 because i reinstalled my graphic card driver and i remember before it was 550 .....is this right.... or i need to do something.

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550Mhz only kick in when you're running 3D applications.
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QUOTE(rashad @ May 11 2010, 03:17 PM)
hi, i just want to check is the default clock 400 because i reinstalled my graphic card driver and i remember before it was 550 .....is this right.... or i need to do something.

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Doesnt seem to be wrong. My current Y460 machine also showing same thing.

GPU Clock - 550 MHz
Default Clock - 400 MHz
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thx guys, by the way regarding OC i read in other forums that doing it will void the warranty if lets say something happened to the laptop and they find that u OC'd it.

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3DMark Vantage benchmark using Y460 tongue.gif
Setting is Performance
Sore: P3472
GPU: 2928
CPU: 7844

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I have a question.. Is there any stock still in lowyat?? Cos i may go and buy after a few days.. I am not live in KL so i hv to confirm be4 i go.. Should i have to pre-order or something?? Any contact person??
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i noticed that after oced the ati hd5650 the clock will revert back to its stock clock whenever i switch the gc to intel??

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QUOTE(fishysjj @ May 11 2010, 06:03 PM)
I have a question.. Is there any stock still in lowyat?? Cos i may go and buy after a few days.. I am not live in KL so i hv to confirm be4 i go.. Should i have to pre-order or something?? Any contact person??
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QUOTE(wztech @ May 11 2010, 06:29 PM)
i noticed that after oced the ati hd5650 the clock will revert back to its stock clock whenever i switch the gc to intel??
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Yep. Unless ATI does provide overclock tools embedded with CCC like overdrive that would be awesome drool.gif
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Link to V460 which I'm holding currently

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1419939
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Guys, i would like to ask did you all do the window back up thingy?
As i tried to back up my windows....until half way it cant b back up ad
mind 2 tell me wat happen?
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Because your HDD space is full?? I turned mine off as I choose to back up myself.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 11 2010, 09:52 PM)
Because your HDD space is full?? I turned mine off as I choose to back up myself.
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didnt full wor bro...
i stil got more thn 300gb of space
i would like to kno how 2 shut it off?
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Lenovo Exclusive Store, You could look for Mr.Hamry.
This store have most of the Range for consumer and kinda have more stock compared to lowyat Lenovo Exclusive Store
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i jjust get my y 460 fomr this shop...

The guy is Wong .. nice guy also..

but as i know. very limited stock available on this model.. both in Mv n lowyat also..

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QUOTE(calvenbj @ May 11 2010, 11:48 PM)
i jjust get my y 460 fomr this shop...

The guy is Wong .. nice guy also..

but as i know. very limited stock available on this model.. both in Mv n lowyat also..

thanks
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The shop in located in lowyat?? Cos i am not familiar with KL street..

Did i hv to book for it?? Cos i am not going KL that soon.. I think would be 15/16..

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QUOTE(fishysjj @ May 12 2010, 01:49 AM)
The shop in located in lowyat?? Cos i am not familiar with KL street..

Did i hv to book for it?? Cos i am not going KL that soon.. I think would be 15/16..
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QUOTE(^bAbym310n^ @ May 11 2010, 11:25 PM)
didnt full wor bro...
i stil got more thn 300gb of space
i would like to kno how 2 shut it off?
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Go to Start > All Programs > Maintenance > Backup and Restore to change you backup options.
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Worry about cant get my lappy this coming Sunday~~ hope still hv stock~ ><
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QUOTE(fishysjj @ May 13 2010, 10:39 AM)
Worry about cant get my lappy this coming Sunday~~ hope still hv stock~ ><
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Call them to check for stock before go le,
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If you're really that eager to get one, call IT shops in LYP like sri com, jaya com etc which sells this product and ask about the stock availability. If got, paid an amount of fee as down payment just to secure your unit, then pay the rest when you get there.
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QUOTE(fishysjj @ May 13 2010, 10:39 AM)
Worry about cant get my lappy this coming Sunday~~ hope still hv stock~ ><
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If you know other place other than lowyat, you can try search on forum. A guys name yoongkeen from Ideal Tech selling this model for rm 3499. I got mine from him, today call tml get the laptop edi. BTW his office is located at Pandan Indah (Cheras area)

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u guys laptop has any noise? especially in the bottom-left part of the keypad or noiseless at all?
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QUOTE(synz @ May 13 2010, 05:55 PM)
u guys laptop has any noise? especially in the bottom-left part of the keypad or noiseless at all?
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ya . . . noise frm HDD . . . i tot it's normal ?
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is it noise like smth scratching? thats normal? im newbie to laptop biggrin.gif
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is it noise like smth scratching? thats normal? im newbie to laptop biggrin.gif
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ya . . . whn its running . . . even dekstop HDD oso will produce those noise if u listen carefully smile.gif
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Usually HDD will sound like its spinning laugh.gif..and it is spinning tongue.gif...
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so in he future ssd will produce no sound at all? biggrin.gif
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Not in future, now ssd also no sound laugh.gif
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i mean when ssd fully replaces hdd in laptop biggrin.gif
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I thought it should be on lower right unless you're looking from below... Btw, you do hear the noise from HDD and depends how good the case is made to cover it. Some owners did mention they can hear the HDD's head "parks" so consider the case is not well sound proof tongue.gif.
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Anyone can confirm that changing to SSD will not void warranty in this particular laptop?

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QUOTE(synz @ May 13 2010, 06:03 PM)
is it noise like smth scratching? thats normal? im newbie to laptop biggrin.gif
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mine got tis prob b4 & i ad sent to SC
they changed a new HDD for me but also stil got a little bit of sound
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There's no warranty sticker on HDD part so it's safe. Just to remind you that if there's human error happened during your swapping HDD process causing system faulty, Lenovo will/can void your warranty also.
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Guys, jus now Lenovo SC called me & asked me about their service so do how's my HDD after the replaced a new 1?
I told them that my HDD still got sound & they asked me to send it back to them....plus they said they will email me a form for me to fill in about the feedback of this Y460
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Maybe you can give a copy of the form to us, want to see what actually they want to survey about Y460...

After changing the HDD still got sound?? Seems like the HDD is not that good in quality hmm.gif
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I would like to re-format the lappy and repartition my harddisk too. Anything i should take attention?? Any driver or application is useless?? Cos i don like to installer all the driver that have in the official website..
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Your case really brings me a lot of thoughts why your unit got sounds while others don't seem to have much trouble with it. I wish this time they will fix your problem for sure.

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Do burn those recovery DVD if possible as you might need it one day. Backup the drivers on Drive D: then you should be good to go smile.gif.


Btw, I'm playing with my new keyboard, Logitech Illuminated... Nice tongue.gif
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my hdd also got problem sometimes, well 3 times to be exact since i purchase it

it was when i was using, then sudenly got sound, vibrating sound, and then my whole pc will hang, and cant move liao. have to restart only can.

if it happens again i will be calling for on site warranty liao tongue.gif

btw, to fishysjj,
i just use install everything from D drive, since it does not include veriface, slide and some other junks, just driver.
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 14 2010, 02:56 PM)
Maybe you can give a copy of the form to us, want to see what actually they want to survey about Y460...

After changing the HDD still got sound?? Seems like the HDD is not that good in quality hmm.gif
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I wonder what brand of HDD? Seagate?
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Some of the owners here have Seagate HDD including me but I've read other forum owners are having Hitachi HDD so not sure if it's a bad HDD or really blame on the HDD compartment for not sound proof enough.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 14 2010, 06:03 PM)
@^bAbym310n^

Your case really brings me a lot of thoughts why your unit got sounds while others don't seem to have much trouble with it. I wish this time they will fix your problem for sure.

@fishysjj

Do burn those recovery DVD if possible as you might need it one day. Backup the drivers on Drive D: then you should be good to go smile.gif.
Btw, I'm playing with my new keyboard, Logitech Illuminated... Nice tongue.gif
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i also wan to kno y my HDD got sound...bt d sound is sometimes got sometimes nop... rclxub.gif


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my hdd also got problem sometimes, well 3 times to be exact since i purchase it

it was when i was using, then sudenly got sound, vibrating sound, and then my whole pc will hang, and cant move liao. have to restart only can.

if it happens again i will be calling for on site warranty liao tongue.gif

btw, to fishysjj,
i just use install everything from D drive, since it does not include veriface, slide and some other junks, just driver.
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u din send it to sc to check?

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havent sent yet since after restart still can use....but since i upgrade the warranty liao so give it another chance la
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QUOTE(^bAbym310n^ @ May 14 2010, 09:59 PM)
i also wan to kno y my HDD got sound...bt d sound is sometimes got sometimes nop... rclxub.gif
Your case does suit the usual HDD head 'parks" sound whereby it happens when you're accessing your HDD like looking for files/open a folder which normally you won't notice it unless you're sensitive and in an air cond room/office/quiet place. If you did hear the HDD is spinning rather noisy, that might be a different story. If it's the 1st one, then it's normal. You can try to replace with another HDD or SSD if you wanna avoid it hmm.gif


@samlee860407

It does sound normal to me unless you've had this a few times within a week. Btw, there's no on site services provided to IdeaPad users except ThinkPad series.
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Eh , normal? But the vibration sound quite loud wo....

Actually I very skeptical about the on site too, coz I heard lenovo idealpad tarak on site, but my seller say got, and when I check my warranty status also say got, don't knw la, I just hope I don't need to use the warranty at all :s
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Sam, I can assured it's normal, it even happen on my old laptop once a while/more like once a year hehe. I've confirmed with a few sources before I get my extended warranty thru website and sales person. You said your warranty status have stated it's on site? On Lenovo's webstie?
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i see...then it's ok then, haha

eh...i just check my warranty again, now become back to 2011 expire? @@

something wrong liao, luckily i check again, coz when i just purchase my warranty that time i register it is 2013 expire @@

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Added on May 15, 2010, 9:20 ami rmb la last time when i check, after i upgrade and key in the service code, it shows expire 2013 , and if not mistaken got write on site (if my memory dint failed me la)

but now show expire 2011 pulak, and says i dint purchase extended warranty :S

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That a bit worries me.

This is my status. .

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It might take 1-2 weeks for them to update your status. You can call them to acquire your warranty status
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the thing that worries me is few days ago it still show the warranty expire at 2013 , but now back to 1 year pulak :S

and really eh, i dont think i saw the carry in thing lo

how much you pay for upgrading the warranty?
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270. The thing worries me on your case would be if you got the wrong care pack which is for ThinkPad. Does your carepack has a white yellowish pamplet alike which resemble the ideapad color? I've confirmed a few times and Lenovo SC did give me a few numbers on shops and sales person just I can confirm if it does carry on site.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 14 2010, 08:38 PM)
Some of the owners here have Seagate HDD including me but I've read other forum owners  are having Hitachi HDD so not sure if it's a bad HDD or really blame on the HDD compartment for not sound proof enough.
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Well i have a seagate and im not sure why.. It is quite noisy.. especially heavy hdd load.. lol tick tick tick..

So got myself a WD Scorpio Blue 500GB 5.4krpm and put the seagate into a external enclosure SATA>USB2.0 smile.gif

WD Scorpio Silent as ever tongue.gif
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mine is rm340 eh @@

btw, what do you mean by care pack?

coz when upgrade warranty, i just pay the seller , and he help me upgrade o, dint receive anything :S
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the extend 2 years + on site is indeed around 350, but the sales person told me it only applies to thinkpad, ideapad max out only 3 years parts and labor w/ carry in, no on site. I purchased a carepack from a shop so I did the extend warranty process myself.
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Hmmm I see. Let see Monday how. Will update here tongue.gif
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The difference is not huge. but still noticeable except you're comparing 520M & 540M then you won't feel much.
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Yahoo...Get my Lenovo today.. I have some question how to have the gadget to tunning the Inter processor to 3.0Ghz?? And y i cant view my GC temp by using CPUID(Hardware Monitor) Cant even see the device both my GC..
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Use GPU-Z to check the temp for GPU...
You can't tune the processor to 3.0GHz, it decides it by its own..
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Is there a gadget like showing the performance of i5 processor?? Like jotaro12 did a few page in front
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http://consumersupport.lenovo.com/in/en/Dr...yID=955740&OS=0

Under Others, Intel Turbo Boost Technology Driver...
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I have a serious question.. While i format my hard drive i accidentally delete a partition contain 200 MB data name as (system) is that okay??
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That one usually reserved by Win 7, not sure what's the effect though...
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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ May 17 2010, 12:16 AM)
http://consumersupport.lenovo.com/in/en/Dr...yID=955740&OS=0

Under Others, Intel Turbo Boost Technology Driver...
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I have already install.. But nothing happen on my destop
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It should be a gadget for the sidebar....
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There just a normal gadget didnt hv the intel one.. ><
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http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Des...Y&DwnldID=18353

This one most likely...
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hm....my HDD seems like got problem eh.

start from this morning, whole PC keep on hang even when i just surf firefox, then got error say that cant connect to the intel rapid storage technology.

when open my computuer also take ages sometimes, and when click start, programs files, alot of file macam blank, and need sometime only will load out...hm.....what happened leh @@
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 15 2010, 12:44 PM)
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the extend 2 years + on site is indeed around 350, but the sales person told me it only applies to thinkpad, ideapad max out only 3 years parts and labor w/ carry in, no on site. I purchased a carepack from a shop so I did the extend warranty process myself.
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what does the "care pack" consists and how much does it cost? i also thinking to upgrade the warranty... what are the options available ar and how much is it?

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I have a serious question.. While i format my hard drive i accidentally delete a partition contain 200 MB data name as (system) is that okay??
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actually it is not okay because it is already deleted.

QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 17 2010, 08:59 AM)
hm....my HDD seems like got problem eh.

start from this morning, whole PC keep on hang even when i just surf firefox, then got error say that cant connect to the intel rapid storage technology.

when open my computuer also take ages sometimes, and when click start, programs files, alot of file macam blank, and need sometime only will load out...hm.....what happened leh @@
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i would suggest you go get it changed since your unit is still new (i mean while your hard disk doesn't contain much stuff to backup)...
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leng2, jotaro purchase the care pack at rm270, while mine is at rm340.

I already call up lenovo for my warranty problem, and they will check it after i email them my invoice

now my notebook macam ok back liao after i reinstall the rapid storage driver and restart few times. sigh...have to settle my warranty problem 1st, then baru settle the HDD
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Did you buy yours @PC fair or shop? If PC fair, then you need to becareful as promoters there tend to mislead info while in shop unless you're talking to senior staff, same thing would happen if not careful.
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Any setting can make the touchpad like Mac?? for example using 2 finger point to active right click??


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Any suggestion application to monitor the GPU??

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