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 Lenovo ideapad Y460/Y560 Thread, Gaming nerd in a business package

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post Apr 14 2010, 10:31 PM

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I am looking forward to your more detailed review regarding temperature of processor and GPU


Added on April 14, 2010, 10:34 pmoh yea....
can you enlighten me whether the VT-X is disabled in lenovo Y460 by default and there is no way to enable it in bios?!

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post Apr 14 2010, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 14 2010, 10:53 PM)
Yes, VT is disabled by default but you can enable it. It's been answered at NBR for quite sometime.
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33C is quite cool, did you use cooler pad?
is the temperature consistent for several hours?
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post Apr 18 2010, 02:51 AM

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i bought the y460 rm3510 cash with dect phone and bag = ='''

for partition, this is how i do
i jus extend the 100mb system reserved to 200gb and the rest of space be another partition..
and system recovery partition and driver partition are remained untouched.


i stress the system using 4 super pi simultaneous 4mb calculation
the cpu shoot up to 80C easily
but gaming test, streefighter 4 all at high setting except no AA the FPS is easily more than 60fps, but the cpu and gpu temp shoo up to 70+C

i feel it is reasonable.. since 4820tg also can shoot up to 70C when gaming... jus that you cannot feel the heat from the laptop surface of 4820tg(according to china reviews)
but in y460 you can feel the heat from laptop palm rest
in other words. the temp on laptop surface is higher than 4820tg but internal temp is almost same since same hardware as 4820tg


Added on April 18, 2010, 3:15 amgame setting
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the temperature and game fps
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post Apr 18 2010, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Apr 18 2010, 04:32 AM)
How come your ram capacity around 2GB+ only?

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i reformat it to 32bit system....
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post Apr 19 2010, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(rashad @ Apr 19 2010, 12:44 AM)
Hi guys,

please help, i am in this situation my budget max is 3200 but if necessary it can go to 3600, and i am really considering buying this laptop because of its processor and graphic card. the thing is before i knew of this laptop i was considering Asus a42jr  with i5 520, and hd 5470. and as u all know "i guess" its already out of stock, i went to the pc fair and they already changed the graphic card with outdated one, one guy told me better wait till next week,when the new stock comes in but he gave me less than 30% of it being included in the stock.

so if u compare the two definitely lenovo wins, but after reading ur comments regarding the heating problem i am discouraged.

Asus

advantages:

- price will not jump 3200 if its i5 520" if it comes any time soon i hope"
- warranty 2 years international " important since i am not a local"

disadvantages:

- lower spec compared to lenovo

i think the way i explained it, it seems i already know what i should get " lenovo" but i will appreciate it if u guys advice me

questions:

- how much can i get the lenovo for as i read the cheapest was 3510 rm .....what do u think?

- why not buy lenovo?

thx in advance smile.gif
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you can always go for lower spec of y460 which is RM3299 RRP the difference is only processor ..which uses lower end i5 430
i got 3510 because i COD.. if you manage to COD i am sure u can get that price too
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post Apr 20 2010, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 14 2010, 09:51 PM)
Some of the tests that I ran these few days:

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Today was doing a simple test which is in my room with fan only. Just took a screenshot and here it is:
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I opened a 720p video and let it run in the background whole day with Intel GC on. The temp didn't increase much during the afternoon with warm air in my room.

NOTE:Was playing SF4 on my 22 inch LCD(16:10) with native resolution setting w/ no AA but others high setting. I don't feel any lag at all which is quite impressed(GPU stayed ave 70C most of my gaming time) smile.gif. Other results will post tomorrow.
Day 1 Conclusion
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you manage to get that low temp while running hd video using intel gfx?! so impressive
i cant even to reach that = =
do you use cooler pad ?


Added on April 20, 2010, 2:56 pmlet me share one thing about 460, it has a light sensor for automatically adjusting LCD brightness
the sensor is located at right side of wireless indicator. it is a small sensor
if you ever cover the sensor... the brightness will be reduced automatically =D

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post Apr 20 2010, 11:34 PM

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y460 - the fin is copper not the aluminium as the normal cooling system, it means it has better cooling system than normal laptop

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post Apr 20 2010, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(synz @ Apr 20 2010, 11:38 PM)
simply run the windows rating and put ur finger near the hole

u can feel like boiling water biggrin.gif
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haha this is due the the good heat dissipation of copper. the heat is easily transfered to the air thats why you can feel the very hot air coming out from the air vent! tongue.gif
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post Apr 21 2010, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(reeve86 @ Apr 21 2010, 09:23 AM)
that mean no heat problem for this model?
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however after comparing it with my friends's laptops, i will say it is normal for the mid-high end laptop to stress at 80+C , this temp is almost same as the deviltech DTX with 5650 when stressing.

for idle temp, below 60C is considered normal for notebook with dedicated gpu, include y460
i have tested the temp on my friend inspiron with 8400m gs, asus with ati 3470, benq with 8600m gs, their cpu temp is also roughly at that range

so judge yourself, if you are still not convinced, then you can google other laptop with same equivalent spec and see their temp when it is under stress test.
of course you might found the temp might be lower thany 460, this might be due to environment factors, such as the weather which is cooler in china, and western countries.
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post Apr 21 2010, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Apr 21 2010, 09:46 AM)
You try to check on PCH temperature. The temp will freak u out. tongue.gif laugh.gificon_rolleyes.gif

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that is due to the passive cooling i assume
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post Apr 21 2010, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Apr 21 2010, 09:49 AM)
Most probably. That is why I only open the laptop in aircond environment.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

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if not mistaken that is the south bridge of HM55, it is really hot
if what i say is true, then i guess all the laptop with HM55 will also get the same temp as y460


Added on April 21, 2010, 9:55 am
QUOTE(miahahaha @ Apr 21 2010, 09:52 AM)
So, still got quite a problem with the cooling?? Using any cooler pad does any different??
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that is not really a problem, if that is a problem to you, then i think alot laptop is not suitable for you now ,since a lot laptops now are using HM55 chipset

i have tried with and without cooling pad, it does not make any different to my laptop, even got, also a few degrees
btw, the cooling pad i use is cheap cheap , only less than rm10 i think, but i got it free.
perhaps the expensive cooling pad will help

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post Apr 21 2010, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Apr 21 2010, 09:56 AM)
No difference for me. doh.gif
Ya. We can assume that way. But we need to get the H55 alike laptop to compare w for the real comparison. hmm.gif

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i hope what i say is true lol, even 4820tg also equiped copper for the south bridge
i guess hm55 generate quite a lot of heat lol
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post Apr 21 2010, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 21 2010, 11:54 AM)
I wanted to use Ultimate/Professional because of XP mode. That's why I did a clean installation w/o touching the recovery partition and D:. Flavor?? what kind?? smile.gif


Added on April 21, 2010, 11:58 am

The SB on Y460/4820TG is siting far apart from CPU/GPU so even it's heated up, I don't think it'll do more than 60C unless you're in a non air circulated room. The main heat generates still remain on the CPU/GPU combo.
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have you used the everest to check your SB temperature?
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post Apr 21 2010, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 21 2010, 01:55 PM)
Can you show a screenshot of yours and where it situated on everest? I do have it installed but I'm more rely on HW monitor & GPU-Z. smile.gif
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can you see the PCH temperature? sweat.gif
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post Apr 21 2010, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 21 2010, 08:36 PM)
Hmmm  tongue.gif  Never knew the temp on it is that hot...Will update mine later after I got back home(Laptop still running lol).
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it is considered normal for most of the SB to have high temp according to some forums......but i don't know why.. perhaps due to passive cooling ? unsure.gif
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post Apr 21 2010, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ Apr 21 2010, 11:43 PM)
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My PCH temp for 3 1/2 days tongue.gif. Passive cooling has its own pros and cons. Most of them do able to withstand longer period of high temp but from a lifespan standpoint, it'll shorten for sure.
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will shorten or not perhaps they have designed it to be more robust than ever
can withstand much higher temperature .. who knows ? biggrin.gif or else intel will not release this chipset to the market
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post Apr 22 2010, 03:41 PM

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just to share a china website regarding Y460/Y560
i guess all you want to know about Y460 and Y560 is in the website =D

http://itbbs.pconline.com.cn/notebook/11117096.html

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post Apr 22 2010, 11:29 PM

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y460 user.. try to force the cpu to run at low freq , 1.3GHz .. and run some game test.. you will see the temperature is same as normal laptop =D
this is what i found, however the game FPS will not really drop,
test it then you will know it! XD

through this setting, you don need worry about heat issue when gaming lol

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post Apr 23 2010, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(leng2 @ Apr 23 2010, 12:18 AM)
i just did a reformat to my y460... reconfiguring the partitions... just a slight problemo... the slidenav don't seem to work even after installing the driver. the rest of it works just fine... but i didn't bother about the onekey recovery though since someone said it wun work without the reserved oem partition.
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u need to install lenovo power management in order for touch key to work
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post Apr 23 2010, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(leng2 @ Apr 23 2010, 12:51 AM)
yeah i did... i can see the blinking dots when sliding my fingah across the tab... but nothing happen...
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you need to install synaptics driver as well if not mistaken smile.gif

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