There are 2 types of Hynix KVR: BT-D43 & DT-D43
Is tat got any differences in term of OC performance???
Where can i get it in LYP???
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the DT-D43 is much better in terms of keeping tighter timings at higher speeds. Most of them easily do 250MHz at 2.5-3-3-X timings at 2.8v.
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sorry to cram topic...
but how can i actually find out which chipset am i having in detail?? using which software? thanks |
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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Mar 17 2005, 06:46 PM) sorry to cram topic... can only check using yr bare eyes.but how can i actually find out which chipset am i having in detail?? using which software? thanks  Plug out the memory module and look at the memory chip. |
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 Take out your ram.............. This post has been edited by Sphenix: Mar 17 2005, 06:50 PM |
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LOL...
Find out the chipset using ur own eyes not software... |
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QUOTE(tjlow @ Mar 17 2005, 06:50 PM) LOL... y not?Find out the chipset using ur own eyes not software... its the only way BTD43 is great too i remember hitting 270FSB on 3 4 4 8  |
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256MB's BTD43 chipset is it rare??
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I'm using DT-D43 chip but donno how to timing it..sadly..
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QUOTE(Sphenix @ Mar 17 2005, 06:58 PM) 256MB's BTD43 chipset is it rare?? they are everywherethe last batch of KVR still hold them but i dunno now |
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Mar 17 2005, 07:08 PM) I'm using DT-D43 chip but donno how to timing it..sadly.. u do it at the bios |
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I just check back my Ram now only realized I'm using BTD43.....
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//off topic here
if wanna use dual channel, i've already has 1x 512 btd43 means i should only find another btd43? cannot use other chips? |
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 wah..then im using BT-D43..havent try OC yet...dunno how this RAM peformance later...now still running on stock. QUOTE BTD43 is great too i remember hitting 270FSB on 3 4 4 8 hmn..hitting this on 2.8 right.. |
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QUOTE(jaMneSs @ Mar 17 2005, 09:33 PM) //off topic here u can use other type of 512MB module to run dual channelif wanna use dual channel, i've already has 1x 512 btd43 means i should only find another btd43? cannot use other chips? only in overclocking the will be some problem. normal running no problem at all. |
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how to know is dt d43 or bt d43?
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QUOTE(jiant @ Mar 17 2005, 10:10 PM) how to know is dt d43 or bt d43? Take out your ram and you can see..HYNIX HY5DU56822 DT-D43. That's one will show you either chip DT-D43 or BT-D43 |
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DT-D43 + BT-D43 can it dual channel??
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these DT-D43 only appear on kingston ram or other brand's ram as well?
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QUOTE(Coconut @ Mar 20 2005, 12:45 AM) these DT-D43 only appear on kingston ram or other brand's ram as well? If that ram using Hynix chip...Please correct me if wrong..  |
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QUOTE(Sphenix @ Mar 20 2005, 12:38 AM) DT-D43 + BT-D43 can it dual channel?? even BT-J + BT-D43 also can ... not to mention BT-D43even some ppl are using CH-5 with BT-D43 for dual channel |
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How bout this DTD-43 doing 277fsb... thanks to zamree7 for lending his ram n do the testing together...
i think i need 2.9vdimm to get this ram max out...  mine only max out 264fsb 1T...  see the attachment Attached thumbnail(s) 
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Mar 20 2005, 02:25 AM) How bout this DTD-43 doing 277fsb... thanks to zamree7 for lending his ram n do the testing together... offtopic: How do you get the 264MHz @ 1T without problem? Mind to share?i think i need 2.9vdimm to get this ram max out... mine only max out 264fsb 1T... see the attachment |
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Mar 20 2005, 01:06 AM) even BT-J + BT-D43 also can ... not to mention BT-D43 So the answer is yes is it??even some ppl are using CH-5 with BT-D43 for dual channel BT+DT = Dual channel |
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QUOTE(Sphenix @ Mar 20 2005, 12:38 AM) DT-D43 + BT-D43 can it dual channel?? using here almost 3 years and runin fine! |
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QUOTE(Snoy @ Mar 20 2005, 10:35 AM) offtopic: How do you get the 264MHz @ 1T without problem? Mind to share? dunno if its work on others, i used my amd rig to test it on Neo2 Platinum.264fsb 1:1 2.5-x-x-x 1T at 2.8vdimm n i noticed DTD-43 dont like divider.and i use dimm 1 and 3. and i'm on 1.36beta modded bios. didnt thinkin bout doing a print screen coz thought its just an ordinary result will do the print screen later coz still cant reboot my system due to priming at 250fsb 1:1 2-5-3-3-6 1T at 2.8vdimm. This post has been edited by rzonealley: Mar 20 2005, 02:12 PM |
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Mar 17 2005, 07:12 PM) they are everywhere what memory chip is used in the new batch of KVR??the last batch of KVR still hold them but i dunno now I know it is packed in a paper box rather than transparent box |
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still can find DTD-43 in LYP but only for 512m ram... not 256...
try searching in Czone Cycom Robyncom. wish u luck huhu |
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I just came back from LYP,m bought 2X512MB or DT-D43 from MyPC for RM400. Forgot to check how much stock they have left
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aiman, u got new ram at last.. wanna let go ur ocz pc4200el?
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QUOTE(irenic @ Mar 23 2005, 01:49 PM) aiman, u got new ram at last.. wanna let go ur ocz pc4200el? Nope  The DT-D43 will be my spare RAM |
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QUOTE(arj @ Mar 23 2005, 01:51 PM) Nope The DT-D43 will be my spare RAM hmm looks like our sifu bought a d43 at last.. is this mean dt-d43 is better than bt-d43? |
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QUOTE(irenic @ Mar 23 2005, 01:54 PM) hmm looks like our sifu bought a d43 at last.. is this mean dt-d43 is better than bt-d43? |
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laaa... aiman... u bought a pair of DTs???
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QUOTE(neuvas @ Mar 23 2005, 02:41 PM) laaa... aiman... u bought a pair of DTs??? u wanna let go ur DTs? same ere.. i wanna let go my BTs as well hehe letting go of mine actually... |
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QUOTE(neuvas @ Mar 23 2005, 02:41 PM) laaa... aiman... u bought a pair of DTs??? Lepas beli baru la everybody wanna sell off their BT-D43 letting go of mine actually... |
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i think dt performs better than bt, since most dt are able to do tighter timings and higher fsb than bt, but there are some bt's which are capable of really high fsb, but it's kinda hard to get a hold of a good bt. just an opinion. do post us the results arj, ppl here would be really interested in the results.
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just wondering whether i can use my apacer 512 ddr -3200 with another brand of 512 ddr-3200 to utilise dual channel....do u tink it will work on my intel perl865 mobo?coz if it does then dun need to get 2 new pieces of 512 then....
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hope to see some result to arj.
zamree7's DT can do 2-2-2-5 2T at stock vdimm at 210fsb but didnt test any further since we wanna test the highest fsb the ram could handle. and as i mentioned above the ram max out at 277 with my limited vdimm at 2.85v. i'm sure it can go more with 2.9vdimm. but yet its only the highest it can go but not memtest past. 512x2 so far memtest past at 260fsb at 2T timing. compared to 256x2: the 256x2 could handle more tighter timing and memtest past at 1T timing is 263fsb 2.85vdimm. maybe this is due to the different between the single sided and double sided chip of ram. btw hope can see some impressive result from u arj. best regards. |
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QUOTE(arj @ Mar 23 2005, 01:57 PM) I think BT-D43 is better. I was looking for them but they're nowhere to be found..... eh, i tot DT is better?  my BT can do 2.5-4-4-10 at 260 no divider though. |
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My sticks are crap! On my P4, 240Mhz 3-4-4-8 2.9v hangged after 4 minutes of Memtest. 238Mhz went on for about 30 minutes before I exited Memtest....
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guess mine considered gem la aiman...
253MHz 2.5-4-4-6-1T 275MHz 2.5-4-4-11-2T got numurous rants bout the newer batches of DTs and BTs.. but i feel like letting go of my pair.. anyone interested? pm me lor.. |
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my previous BT-D43 can do dual channel (2x256) 260mhz, 2.5-4-4-11-1T prime stable, on nForce2. memtest stable up to 265mhz. all using 2.9vdimm.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Mar 23 2005, 10:56 PM) my previous BT-D43 can do dual channel (2x256) 260mhz, 2.5-4-4-11-1T prime stable, on nForce2. memtest stable up to 265mhz. all using 2.9vdimm. yeah nice ! forgot whom did i sold to last time.... mine 1 same as urs..... still using it now... but my rams dun like CL2.5 ....  but when i set to CL3 i got same bandwidth as CL2.5 i get  i guess maybe will fly more on intel |
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Mine can do 250mhz at 2.5-4-4-11 timings with 2.9v but got error when i do memtest last time.. guess mine are bad sticks but still considered ok coz can go 250mhz. I know someone with 512mb d43 which are double sided that can go 255mhz at 2.5-3-3-11 with his nforce2 setup. A nice fsb n timings i can say.. I didnt know d43 are still rams that ppl are searching..
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i've tried overclocking my bt-d43's to 250 at dual channel but i get artifacts while playing games...how do i fix this ? i've set the vdimm to 2.8v and timings at 3-4-4-8
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artifacts ? do u locked ur PCI/AGP bus ?
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yea..the pci/agp is fixed at 33/66
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on some systems... when OCed to 250+FSB, BT D43 will corrupt your graphics.. This is very true, Uncle Bwan has proved it...
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QUOTE(neuvas @ Mar 23 2005, 10:32 PM) on some systems... when OCed to 250+FSB, BT D43 will corrupt your graphics.. This is very true, Uncle Bwan has proved it... so how do i fix this prob ? |
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i'm still confuse
DT-D43 or BT-D43 better?? Can anyone tell me why?? This post has been edited by evilhomura89: Mar 23 2005, 10:41 PM |
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Calvin : To fix this prob u have to downclock somehow..
evilhomura89 : Which one better? It depends on the stick itself. Even BH5 have bad sticks so it depends on ur luck. |
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QUOTE(calvin @ Mar 23 2005, 10:34 PM) so how do i fix this prob ? there are still no fixes for this... sorry to say... |
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found one btd-43 can do up to 264fsb...
and it on sale http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=139863 |
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I'm currently running 2x512mb DT D43 @ 212fsb, dual channel,CL 2.5-3-3-8 @ 2.45V (load)
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hehe , my bt-d43 can do
275Mhz @ 2.5-4-4-10 1T 1:1 divider @ 2.9V ( able to run superpi and memtest ) 285Mhz @ 3-4-4-10 1T 1:1 divider @ 3v ( able to run superpi and memtest but reboot after awhile ) screenshot of 285Mhz @ 3V my ram very funny not much difference even though change from CAS 2.5 to 3 Attached thumbnail(s) 
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heres mine ...
bt-d43 at 3-4-4-8 2.8vdimm...and also at default vcore |
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DT-D43 is clearly better. |
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Sadly its very hard to find a good dtd43..arj dtd43's was a nightmare for us "the budget overclocker".
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i'm still experience thermal throttling problems once in a while...
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Mar 24 2005, 11:59 AM)
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At the end it depends on luck as overclocking never guarantee the same result with the same chips. But, the fact is very clear. Any Hynix BT-J, BT-D43 or DT-43 is a good chips and underated by many as they're not so popular among western overclockers. If lady luck is on your side, a good Hynix chips will outperform some average premier chips like TCCD in term of high FSB and tight timing. And with max vdimm on your board like 2.8 ~ 2.9v, the Hynix will always better than any Winbond BH-5/6 or UTT.
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[WTA]~ I'm having 512 mb KVR PC3200 with Hynix chipset and wanna get anotehr stick from my friend,but just wanna make sure if idfferent chipset will it affect dual-channel capability ? coz the 1 my fren selling is same model KVR400X64C3A/512 but different chipset (Mos), i heard 'soulfly' previously telling that different chipset does not matter as long as same type (and is it recommended to be same batch of memory? )
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Dont need worry bout it friend, it would be jus fine..
But one of the sticks might reduce or in other words holding back the other stick as u began ur quest to overclock.. |
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Mar 20 2005, 02:09 PM) dunno if its work on others, i used my amd rig to test it on Neo2 Platinum. so how bout ur pentium rig? can ur bt d43 doing 264fsb 1:1 on dual channel ? mine cant...264fsb 1:1 2.5-x-x-x 1T at 2.8vdimm n i noticed DTD-43 dont like divider.and i use dimm 1 and 3. and i'm on 1.36beta modded bios. didnt thinkin bout doing a print screen coz thought its just an ordinary result will do the print screen later coz still cant reboot my system due to priming at 250fsb 1:1 2-5-3-3-6 1T at 2.8vdimm. |
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QUOTE(zt_lee @ Mar 25 2005, 06:06 PM) so how bout ur pentium rig? can ur bt d43 doing 264fsb 1:1 on dual channel ? mine cant... on my pentium i cant boot with 1t timing(cpc on)...and the ram a bit choosy on the dimm. only managed to get higher on dimm 1 and 3. maybe its the trouble on AI7. i managed to get able to do 250fsb 1:1 2.5-3-3-7 on 2.9vdimm. my proc limiting me to reach higher clock. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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wow.. u all set to 2.9v..
later no prob ka? sory me not so new in oc... |
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It shouldnt be a problem UltramanToron since these Hynix chips max out with only 2.9v vDimm. Anything higher wont make any differences.
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2.9 is max if i'm not mistaken if ur using single sided chip ram,
i knew there's ppl even feed the ram with 3.1vdimm on double sided chip ram. i play a lot with 256mb ram single sided so i cant tell more. even when i tested zamree7 ram i didnt dare to feed it 3.1vdimm. max for dtd-43 i feed is 2.9 n no more than that. |
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just asking the timing the lower the better rite? if both at same speed and 1 is 2-4-4-7 another is 3-3-3-8 which 1 is better ah?
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i think this was discussed and tested before...
it work best at 2.8 - 2.9v higher than that might not perform well |
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My DT-D43 doing 250 FSB 2.5-3-3-x 3.1v
8MB super pi passed. 3D mark passed. Prime blend test passed. Below is 8MB passed. [attachmentid=51944] |
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wow....
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I found running 3v cannot pass 8Mb
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QUOTE(Crazyboyrs @ Mar 26 2005, 09:26 PM) My DT-D43 doing 250 FSB 2.5-3-3-x 3.1v wowwweeee! ur ram is 512x2? double sided is it? running on dual or single?8MB super pi passed. 3D mark passed. Prime blend test passed. Below is 8MB passed. [attachmentid=51944] mine 2.9v - 240fsb - 2.5-3-3-x = cannot on oledi 3.1v need special cooling or not? watercooled?  This post has been edited by UltramanToron: Mar 26 2005, 11:13 PM |
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Mar 26 2005, 11:32 PM
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nonit special cooling.... if u scare then put some ramsink on it
ram can handle 3.3v+- without any problem.. depends on ur need |
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Mar 27 2005, 04:19 PM
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juz shoot whatever juice u think the rams can take mostly is stable voltage coz some rams doesn't take high vdimn.... if u scare.... put some fans and blow at them
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Mar 27 2005, 09:54 PM
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just for fun nia...
slap in a stick of 256mb bt-d43 and run memtest86 bt-d43 325AA 268mhz, 2.5-4-4-11-1T with 2.9vdimm  i got another piece, but unluckily cannot boot that one. neenong neenong neenong came out from the internal speaker i guess kena electrostatic |
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Mar 28 2005, 12:03 AM
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hey, just tot you guys should know that Cycom still has one last pair of 512M Kingston dt-d43's
 just got the 2nd last pair at 175 apiece so you guys shld prob hurry...will do some benching once i get my mobo back from rma |
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Mar 28 2005, 01:14 AM
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jwyj's 512MB DT-D43 508PA
double sided single channel 250mhz 2.5-3-3-11-2T, 2.8v  p/s: using 2T bcoz nForce2 is not very friendly with double sided modules |
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Mar 28 2005, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Mar 28 2005, 01:14 AM) jwyj's 512MB DT-D43 508PA at default vdimm, what's the highest fsb? cos i got the same batch of 2x512 DT-D43 also, (he buy for me one)double sided single channel 250mhz 2.5-3-3-11-2T, 2.8v  p/s: using 2T bcoz nForce2 is not very friendly with double sided modules |
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Mar 28 2005, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Mar 25 2005, 07:08 PM) on my pentium i cant boot with 1t timing(cpc on)... for the screenie ur post, it is sc. so not that impressive. have u ever tried dual channel?and the ram a bit choosy on the dimm. only managed to get higher on dimm 1 and 3. maybe its the trouble on AI7. i managed to get able to do 250fsb 1:1 2.5-3-3-7 on 2.9vdimm. my proc limiting me to reach higher clock. |
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Mar 28 2005, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Mar 28 2005, 01:14 AM) jwyj's 512MB DT-D43 508PA can you post a screenshot of sandra's memory bandwidth benchmark for me?i want to see how much it differs from my bh5. double sided single channel 250mhz 2.5-3-3-11-2T, 2.8v p/s: using 2T bcoz nForce2 is not very friendly with double sided modules |
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Mar 28 2005, 04:00 PM
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erkk... i already disassembled my pc and sold my sp-97. dun have good heatsink for oc anymore
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Mar 28 2005, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Mar 28 2005, 04:00 PM) erkk... i already disassembled my pc and sold my sp-97. dun have good heatsink for oc anymore ok then.nvm. |
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Mar 28 2005, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(zt_lee @ Mar 28 2005, 12:32 PM) for the screenie ur post, it is sc. so not that impressive. have u ever tried dual channel? opss my bad wrong pic. uploaded...here's the screenies for the dual channel. sorry for wrong pic. but this one is on 2.8vdimm only. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Mar 28 2005, 05:44 PM
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what is the highest Vdimm(safe level) for KVR without cooling/heatsink??
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Mar 28 2005, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Mar 28 2005, 05:44 PM) what is the highest Vdimm(safe level) for KVR without cooling/heatsink?? i dunno where to put it for me 2.9 is still safe level.all the benches i did, i didnt put any xtra fan or cooling for the ram. so if u hit 2.9 with xtra cooling i think it'll be better. |
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Mar 28 2005, 06:58 PM
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yupz..
D43 got built-in vdimm control...so even exceed 2.9v is ok..But 3v above will more stable, as we know the 3v raill will fluctuate |
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Mar 29 2005, 02:10 AM
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wah kvr seem to b so good ah ?
whats the best chip? |
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Mar 29 2005, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Mar 28 2005, 05:33 PM) opss my bad wow.. that's decent oc wrong pic. uploaded...here's the screenies for the dual channel. sorry for wrong pic. but this one is on 2.8vdimm only. , i forgot whether my btd43 could do that or not, gonna try when i get home from singapore. |
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Mar 30 2005, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Mar 29 2005, 02:10 AM) wah kvr seem to b so good ah ? hard to say whats the best chip. KVR comes with many different chip.whats the best chip? most popular out of it is winbond bh5/bh6 but u need quite high vdimm to make it fly. but for midrange overclocker like me i would say hynix is quite good. hynix comes with lot of series of chip bt-j, btd and dtd. all of them can be overclock but even on the same chip the oc-ablilty wont be the same. on intel i would put btd in it since timing is not so crucial part at intel. but on amd i love to put dtd since the chip can handle lower timing such as 2.5-3-3-7 at 250-264fsb. just my 2 cents QUOTE(zt_lee @ Mar 29 2005, 03:21 PM) wow.. that's decent oc good luck then i thought at 250 fsb btd could do the same as dtd but on max it will show some difference. , i forgot whether my btd43 could do that or not, gonna try when i get home from singapore. |
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Mar 30 2005, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Mar 29 2005, 02:10 AM) wah kvr seem to b so good ah ? Try search for KVR with:whats the best chip? - Winbond BH-5 - Winbond BH-6 - Winbond CH-5 - Winbond CH-6 - Hynix BT-J - Hynix BT-D43 - Hynix DT-D43 - any Kingston relabelled chips with two round dimples in the middle |
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Mar 31 2005, 02:07 PM
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Last night got new 512mb BT-D43 from my friend so i will left 4 stick of my RAM next WEEK..
1 x Kingston 512MB DDR333 BT-J 1 x Kingston 256MB DDR333 BT-D43 1 x Kingston 256MB DDR333 mosel SAT-6 1 x SAMSUNG 128MB DDR266 TCB0 |
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Mar 31 2005, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(momuchi @ Mar 31 2005, 02:07 PM) Last night got new 512mb BT-D43 from my friend so i will left 4 stick of my RAM next WEEK.. wah u guys want to fight the quantity of ram u own ar... i have this1 x Kingston 512MB DDR333 BT-J 1 x Kingston 256MB DDR333 BT-D43 1 x Kingston 256MB DDR333 mosel SAT-6 1 x SAMSUNG 128MB DDR266 TCB0 2x kvr kingston bh 5 256 2x twinmos UTT 256 2x kvr kingston bt-d43 256 1x kvr kingston bt-d43 512 |
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Apr 1 2005, 12:02 AM
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I got:
4 x Hynix Dt-d43 512 1 x Infineon CE-5 512 3 x Infineon CE-6 512 |
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 Apr 1 2005, 12:09 AM
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guys...
guess what, my sis got a pair of GEM --> dtd43.. pinjam hers [which is not yet burn in] n see what i get  p/s: vdimm 2.8v This post has been edited by e-jump: Apr 1 2005, 12:13 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Apr 1 2005, 12:13 AM
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e-jump nicee...
its more like high performance ram.. up to 270fsb with lower timing. memtest pass or not? btw is it on 1T or 2T. if 1T its totally a gem. |
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Apr 1 2005, 12:16 AM
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its 1T..
my mobo got issues with 2T (which is max htt same as 1T )btw, juz got the ram juz now.. but i doubt can pass with that timing (2.5-4-4-x).. maybe 3-4-4-x harapan cerah will try tonite or tomorrow |
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Apr 1 2005, 03:08 AM
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berusahalah!!!!!
good luck mate. show some screenies later on will ya. |
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Apr 1 2005, 11:36 AM
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Just took out my sidepanel to check the ram, didn't know that i have a pair of Hynix DT-D43
, but the problem is i cannot run at 1T even @ 200Mhz @spd... |
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Apr 1 2005, 02:42 PM
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owh man.. memtest got error beyond 260++
but i can superpi up to 270... since im not doing major computation, what the heck juz 1:1 with cpu p/s: its definately alot better than my btd43 |
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Apr 1 2005, 10:24 PM
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Is it 1T? cos if its 1T is looking damn good.
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Apr 2 2005, 11:08 AM
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yeah, its 1T..
i never succesfull tried 2T coz this mobo suX with ram at 2T |
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Apr 2 2005, 06:21 PM
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So overall which 1 better ?? BT or DT???
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Apr 2 2005, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(e-jump @ Apr 2 2005, 11:08 AM) yeah, its 1T.. wow...1T ka???i never succesfull tried 2T coz this mobo suX with ram at 2T It's really a gem... |
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Apr 2 2005, 11:24 PM
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which one is da best oc couple (d43 hynix kingston ram)?
'dt+dt' 'bt-bt' or bt+dt so which one BTW i'm using dt+bt . |
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Apr 2 2005, 11:41 PM
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what i experienced, dt is better than bt...
now still doing some burn-in.. cant do much with 2.8v tho |
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Apr 3 2005, 12:05 AM
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hav someone use bt+dt runin dual channel and doing great fsb or ram timming?
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Apr 3 2005, 02:31 AM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Apr 3 2005, 12:05 AM) hav someone use bt+dt runin dual channel and doing great fsb or ram timming? i have paired my DTD with Kingston Relabeled Chip and it make hell of a pair.Can do up to 260dual channel. and i think the Hynix holding me back. Coz the relabeled chip can do 264fsb 1T single channel on STOCK VDIMM! i'm not lucky enuff to find a pair for that relabeled. |
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Apr 3 2005, 05:21 AM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Apr 3 2005, 02:31 AM) i have paired my DTD with Kingston Relabeled Chip and it make hell of a pair. kingston chip also good ka? huyo!Can do up to 260dual channel. and i think the Hynix holding me back. Coz the relabeled chip can do 264fsb 1T single channel on STOCK VDIMM! i'm not lucky enuff to find a pair for that relabeled. This post has been edited by Mr_47: Apr 3 2005, 05:22 AM |
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Apr 3 2005, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Apr 3 2005, 05:21 AM) kingston chip also good ka? huyo! kingston chip is relabelled from other brand. u'll never really know what you're gonna get |
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Apr 3 2005, 03:39 PM
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which 1 is really better hynix dt d 43 or hynix bt d43?
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Apr 3 2005, 04:13 PM
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I ask a silly question okie? I hope you guys don't get angry arh...laff nemind lar.
The Winbond UTT needs quite an amount of voltage for it to fly right? So is it a logical target if I want to run it at say... 230MHz at 2-2-2-5? And if yes,how much voltage do you estimate i need? It's hard to tell i know,but are there many people who achieved this? Also is it suitable to be ran 24/7? Or the KVR's a better solution? |
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Apr 3 2005, 04:51 PM
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make it simple...
UTT > tight timing, high vdimm, need ddr booster, blowing fan to cool ram D43 > loose timing , moderate vdimm[2.8~2.9] assume both at 250+fsb |
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Apr 3 2005, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 3 2005, 04:13 PM) I ask a silly question okie? I hope you guys don't get angry arh...laff nemind lar. eh... why target so low?The Winbond UTT needs quite an amount of voltage for it to fly right? So is it a logical target if I want to run it at say... 230MHz at 2-2-2-5? And if yes,how much voltage do you estimate i need? It's hard to tell i know,but are there many people who achieved this? Also is it suitable to be ran 24/7? Or the KVR's a better solution? on DFI NF4 which has vdimm selectable up to 4v, 250mhz is possible to achive already. from what i've read, UTT tends to run a bit cooler than BH-5 or BH-6 |
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Apr 3 2005, 06:07 PM
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E-Jump,i'm getting an DFI Ultra board. I think it supports 4V.
Why do I still need a DDR Booster? Also soulfly,I dowan tinggi-tinggi sangat. Dunno was it PCrazy told me arh,if the vdimm tinggi sangat i'll burn my CPU faster. Student bang,no money wanna buy another one if it burns. Also can I run the UTT without a DDR booster? if i boring wanna overclock,i let it run all standard settings? |
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Apr 3 2005, 06:37 PM
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yeah, dfi no need booster..
but i state there as universal case.. n most d43 n utt can achive 250 [rare case that not achive that, or achieve friggin high] vdimm got nothing to do with cpu |
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Apr 3 2005, 08:06 PM
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ALLLRIGHHHHTEYYYY then!
UTT come to PAPA!! |
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Apr 3 2005, 11:15 PM
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since u all talking bout UTT maybe u wanna consider TCCD and DTD50
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Apr 3 2005, 11:27 PM
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ei hynix dt d43 and bt d43 can still get 1 pc fair i see lots of it!
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Apr 4 2005, 12:33 AM
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rzone...no money for the TCCD la...expensive noe,dekat 1K for TCCD's. Owch!
darkmage12,which PC fair you found those D43's? AFAIK,the recent one at PWTC orang semua say no D43 wor?? |
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Apr 4 2005, 03:49 AM
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DTD-43 is still can be found in LYP if i'm not mistaken but only for 512x2
but its nearly impossible to hunt em now. @pizzaboy how bout googling Hynix DTD-50 its perform nearly similar to TCCD but the brand using DTD-50 is not marketing their product here in Malaysia such as Gskill and OCZ. and the price is a bit cheaper than those TCCD. BTW since UTT is easily can be found so still the best things to grab is UTT but it will be great if can find DTD-50 |
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Apr 4 2005, 04:50 AM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Apr 4 2005, 03:49 AM) DTD-43 is still can be found in LYP if i'm not mistaken but only for 512x2 u need at least a vdimm of 3.3v to drive the UTTbut its nearly impossible to hunt em now. @pizzaboy how bout googling Hynix DTD-50 its perform nearly similar to TCCD but the brand using DTD-50 is not marketing their product here in Malaysia such as Gskill and OCZ. and the price is a bit cheaper than those TCCD. BTW since UTT is easily can be found so still the best things to grab is UTT but it will be great if can find DTD-50 |
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Apr 4 2005, 10:05 AM
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not to worrrryyyyyy........DFI's to the rescuE!
but darn,that's mighty sick. 3.375V for 255FSB @ 2-2-2-6 Is that a 24/7 setup rlhc17? |
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Apr 4 2005, 11:50 PM
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pizzaboy i go penang de pc fair dunno mayb is chiong 1 la
got 4*512 and btw got a stupid shop person say dfi lousy i tell him unless u plain stupid or u dunno anything bout computers! |
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Apr 5 2005, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 4 2005, 12:33 AM) rzone...no money for the TCCD la...expensive noe,dekat 1K for TCCD's. Owch! http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2215then u should be thinking bout Hynix DTD50 like he mention i think and the price cheaper than tccd |
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Apr 5 2005, 01:01 PM
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damn now i run ddr400 512*2 dt+bt D-43
at 210*11 with barton 2500+ ram timming 3-3-3-11 2.8v anything i can do to go higher? |
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Apr 5 2005, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Apr 5 2005, 01:01 PM) damn now i run ddr400 512*2 dt+bt D-43 i think nobody can give u correct answer, all at all u have to try by urself, normall u will get 250fsb 2.7-2.9vdimm. good luck : )at 210*11 with barton 2500+ ram timming 3-3-3-11 2.8v anything i can do to go higher? |
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Apr 5 2005, 03:06 PM
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220 can boot,,,,,,but then play cs about 15 minutes then pc reboot!
okay maybe it's time to push more v to 2.9! |
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Apr 5 2005, 03:11 PM
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try cpc off..
maybe issues of double sided rams  This post has been edited by e-jump: Apr 5 2005, 03:12 PM |
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Apr 5 2005, 04:16 PM
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dual channel? prob! hell no!
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Apr 5 2005, 04:35 PM
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hmm... double sided is not dual channel bro
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Apr 5 2005, 04:44 PM
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yep double sided ram always have problem when running 1t compared to
single sided chip. thats why i prefer 256x2 rather than 512x2 when buying value ram. but if ur on high performance ram i dont think such a problem will be bugging u. |
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Apr 5 2005, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Mar 30 2005, 08:01 PM) Try search for KVR with: Can show how thw dimples look like with pic or diagram ? Appreciate it.- Winbond BH-5 - Winbond BH-6 - Winbond CH-5 - Winbond CH-6 - Hynix BT-J - Hynix BT-D43 - Hynix DT-D43 - any Kingston relabelled chips with two round dimples in the middle Thanz. |
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Apr 5 2005, 05:31 PM
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hope u can see it clearly.
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Apr 5 2005, 09:37 PM
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Hi rzonealley,
Thanks . I can manage to spot the dimples after I manified it abit. So instead of winbond U sholud see the word Kingston , is that correct ? |
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Apr 6 2005, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE(kenkk @ Apr 5 2005, 09:37 PM) Hi rzonealley, nop. u will exactly see the writing winbond unless its relabeled then u just can see the dimples only and other writing.Thanks . I can manage to spot the dimples after I manified it abit. So instead of winbond U sholud see the word Kingston , is that correct ? |
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Apr 6 2005, 11:47 AM
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If it's Kingston or Corsair chip, just ignore the label if u saw the two dimples
Anyway.... about the new hynix chips, is it DTD50, or is it DT-D50 (correct code typing plz). Isn't that D50 indicates 5ns, while D43 indicates 4.3ns? Or I could be wrong? Or maybe the D50 can perform with tighter timings? The anandtech review did not provide much useful info in comparison of overclocking result, it's just show performance benchie there. |
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Apr 6 2005, 02:50 PM
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Hi soulfly,
Thank you. I think you are correct although stands to be confirmed. The D43 likely indicates the chips capacity , 4.3ns. Btw I just got mine from PC Depot in Penang double sided 512mb Hynix DT-D43 chips at RM172 per stick. Will test it tonite. |
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Apr 6 2005, 08:52 PM
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wow that means i also got 4.3ns ram!
ei pc depot sell u the rams got discount or not? i heard that some ppl will keep asking them to gif discount and they will gif like 10-20 ringgit |
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Apr 6 2005, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Apr 5 2005, 03:06 PM) 220 can boot,,,,,,but then play cs about 15 minutes then pc reboot! I push my BT-D43 (512X2) to 230FSB at 2.5-3-3-8 today on 3.2V , it's running rock stable pass memtest , now oledi running 4 hour prime 95 without any error.okay maybe it's time to push more v to 2.9! Will OC futher tomorrow.. |
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Apr 6 2005, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(CwL @ Apr 6 2005, 10:11 PM) I push my BT-D43 (512X2) to 230FSB at 2.5-3-3-8 today on 3.2V , it's running rock stable pass memtest , now oledi running 4 hour prime 95 without any error. ur bt d43 likes vdimm? what mobo u use by the way?Will OC futher tomorrow.. |
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Apr 6 2005, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(CwL @ Apr 6 2005, 10:11 PM) I push my BT-D43 (512X2) to 230FSB at 2.5-3-3-8 today on 3.2V , it's running rock stable pass memtest , now oledi running 4 hour prime 95 without any error. wow ! now that's cool!Will OC futher tomorrow.. btw: when did you buy your ram? date? |
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Apr 7 2005, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(CwL @ Apr 6 2005, 10:11 PM) I push my BT-D43 (512X2) to 230FSB at 2.5-3-3-8 today on 3.2V , it's running rock stable pass memtest , now oledi running 4 hour prime 95 without any error. normally DT43 can run 250mhz at least. Try straight go to 250mhz with loose timing first, then slowly try to tighten it.Will OC futher tomorrow.. |
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Apr 7 2005, 01:02 AM
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Hi,
I tested mine 2x512mb, dt-d43. When running 1 stick alone can do 225mhz@ 3338 with 2.8vdimm, it could pass memtest 3 passes at least. But when running on dual it shows errors even in the 1st pass. I read someway ealier it 'cause the double sided thingand not happy with nf7s ??? I am now using them at 200mhz with 2.8 vdimm. I think ddr ram is going up and read that in China web sites yesterday. |
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Apr 7 2005, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE(zt_lee @ Apr 6 2005, 11:48 PM) ur bt d43 likes vdimm? what mobo u use by the way? i guess it like high vdimm coz when i change the vdimm to 3.0V it's not working , i using ASUS P4P800SE . QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Apr 6 2005, 11:54 PM) wow ! now that's cool! i buy it half year ago. btw: when did you buy your ram? date? QUOTE(ychwang @ Apr 7 2005, 12:32 AM) normally DT43 can run 250mhz at least. Try straight go to 250mhz with loose timing first, then slowly try to tighten it. i'll try it 2molo .Thanks for the info |
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Apr 7 2005, 01:56 AM
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hmm .. feeding 3.2vdimm ar ..
you using that for daily usage ? you got any fan blowing on the rams ? won;t the ram get brun due to high temp ? |
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Apr 7 2005, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE(shadow_dweller @ Apr 7 2005, 01:56 AM) hmm .. feeding 3.2vdimm ar .. Yup, i on it all the time.Download movie ma.The ram not hot as we thought lah, you using that for daily usage ? you got any fan blowing on the rams ? won;t the ram get brun due to high temp ? it's still ok . I'll take the actual temp. 2molo went i get back and post it here. This post has been edited by CwL: Apr 7 2005, 02:25 AM |
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Apr 7 2005, 03:33 AM
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hi guys, may i know wat is 1T, 2T ?? wat is the difference? how to set in the bios?
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Apr 7 2005, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Apr 6 2005, 11:47 AM) Anyway.... about the new hynix chips, is it DTD50, or is it DT-D50 (correct code typing plz). Isn't that D50 indicates 5ns, while D43 indicates 4.3ns? You may get the ram part file here : http://www.hynix.com/eng/02_products/01_dram/down/DDR.pdf |
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Apr 7 2005, 06:05 PM
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I just got a BT-D43 512 X 2 today.
Hrmm.. but I'll try strain it today But my board limits my FSB, so I'll have to adjust from the FSB/MEM multiplier UPDATES: ======= Failed Prime 95 after 1 minute at these settings. Weird FSB = 333, Divider 3/4, RAM = 442 @ 9-3-3-3 @ 2.9V Anything wrong with the figures? Now trying with 3.0V. This post has been edited by KeNNy: Apr 7 2005, 06:57 PM |
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Apr 7 2005, 08:13 PM
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bt-d43 doesn''t work well on tight timing. try loosen up the timiing abit. bt-d43 work best on 2.5-4-4-10 or 3-4-4-8. vdimm from 2.7-3.1 depending on the chip.
jz my 0.88 cent opinion |
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Apr 7 2005, 08:34 PM
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Could it be my board?
But anyway what timings are you running personally? I tried the same thing 445Mhz @ 9-3-3-3 @ 3.0V. FAiled Will put looser timings later and see |
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Apr 7 2005, 08:51 PM
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tried set looser timing...
then u prime95 again... set volt at 2.9, if fail up a lil bit |
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Apr 7 2005, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(state of abyssmal @ Apr 7 2005, 08:51 PM) tried set looser timing... well i do some reading bout D43...then u prime95 again... set volt at 2.9, if fail up a lil bit D43 can't seem to push eventhough raising the Vdimm... |
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Apr 7 2005, 09:06 PM
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persoanlly i'm running 250 *2 = 500 Mhz @ 2.5-4-4-10 on daily usage at 2.6V
was able to benchmark and memtest stable at 285 * 2 = 570Mhz @ 2.5-4-4-10 at 3.0V i'm using dfi ut 250GB mobo on amd64 socket 754 This post has been edited by shadow_dweller: Apr 7 2005, 09:07 PM |
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Apr 7 2005, 09:10 PM
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from my exp, d43 does not really need a high vdimm.. mine can run 260mhz in dual channel mode @ 2.5-4-4-8 1T @ 2.85vdimm
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Apr 7 2005, 09:43 PM
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erm .. i think bout the vdimm thing it depend on the chip. mine kinda need higher vdimm for stability if i oc the ram to higher frequency.
coz when i ran 280Mhz on 2.9V vdimm it wasn;t stabel but when i up it to 3.0V it was able to run memtest for half an hour without error. This post has been edited by shadow_dweller: Apr 7 2005, 09:44 PM |
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Apr 7 2005, 09:49 PM
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From my guess, it's most probably my board that's limiting it. Perhaps the Memory Bus speed cannot sustain anything about 400Mhz properly
From an engineer's point of view |
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Apr 8 2005, 01:03 AM
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UPDATES
Timing by SPD, Clock by SPD. FAILED!  What the hell is wrong???? Disabling dual-channel now. Here are the possibilities that I've conclude, please add in: 1) Dual-Channel problem 2) Motherboard can't support/has a probem with high-memory bus speeds 3) FAULTY RAM (pray and hope not) Testing one by one now. |
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Apr 8 2005, 02:19 AM
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try a higher vdd...u have to consider whether the motherboard can support such high fsb...ure ram might be able to achieve high fsb but the mobo might not do so without higher voltage...another factor could be the divider coz some d43 will not run anything but 1:1
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Apr 8 2005, 07:36 AM
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Apr 8 2005, 01:03 AM) UPDATES What mobo U using ? Mine, nf7sv2 has problem running dual channels on 2x512mb vene at ddr 400mhz no matter what I tried. Tried some Titac and Merlin mod bios too.Timing by SPD, Clock by SPD. FAILED! What the hell is wrong???? Disabling dual-channel now. Here are the possibilities that I've conclude, please add in: 1) Dual-Channel problem 2) Motherboard can't support/has a probem with high-memory bus speeds 3) FAULTY RAM (pray and hope not) Testing one by one now. No help . But I can run them separately and reached 235 mhz at 2.8 vdimm. Now on single chan. 2x512mb.  |
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Apr 8 2005, 10:58 AM
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Guess what?
I've exactly the same board I've finished testing one of the RAMs on the single channel. I ran at 230Mhz, and no problem! Now testing the other piece. Well if this piece of RAM fails, it's the RAM. Else it's the dual-channel functionality of the board Anyway kenk, how do you disable dual-channel? I couldn't find the option in my Abit NF7-s. Thanks! |
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Apr 8 2005, 11:31 AM
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to disable dual channel, juz put the ram in slot 1 n 2 [DC is on 1 n 3 rite?]
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Apr 8 2005, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(e-jump @ Apr 8 2005, 11:31 AM) to disable dual channel, juz put the ram in slot 1 n 2 [DC is on 1 n 3 rite?] Yah,Just use the 1st two slots nearest to the cpu. I've done th same thing like U , n test 1 by 1. I'm more or less confirm it's the issue of the chips not ddr. For single I can't get pass 240mhz. @2.9vdimm  |
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Apr 8 2005, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(kenkk @ Apr 8 2005, 12:22 PM) Yah, what bios currently ur using?Just use the 1st two slots nearest to the cpu. I've done th same thing like U , n test 1 by 1. I'm more or less confirm it's the issue of the chips not ddr. For single I can't get pass 240mhz. @2.9vdimm |
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Apr 8 2005, 01:51 PM
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Here my BT-D43 running 240FSB with 2.5 4 4 8
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Apr 8 2005, 02:11 PM
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i got my DT x 4 dual channel fail to boot on stock speed, at 2.6,
but i take out that stick put another one no problem is it ram problem? can rma? |
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Apr 8 2005, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Apr 7 2005, 09:10 PM) from my exp, d43 does not really need a high vdimm.. mine can run 260mhz in dual channel mode @ 2.5-4-4-8 1T @ 2.85vdimm yup, mine also last time didnt need high vdimm...try first at low vdimm...maybe at 2.85 prime it , then increase a lil bit.... |
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Apr 8 2005, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Apr 8 2005, 01:35 PM) what bios currently ur using? Now using Merlin , D26 cpc disabled dated 9-2004 if I rememberit correctly.Anyway, this is the latest I can find.U mentioned the cpc beforebut doesn't seem to work for me. May be I have missed out something. Will try benching them again tonite.BTW I have mine L12 mode with wire on socket, possible cause ? Thank you. |
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Apr 8 2005, 02:45 PM
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my fren de DTD43 ddr400 from kingston cant even boot at ddr333!
dunno wtf is wrong with the ram |
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Apr 8 2005, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Apr 8 2005, 02:45 PM) my fren de DTD43 ddr400 from kingston cant even boot at ddr333! well, there's a lot of possibilities such as..dunno wtf is wrong with the ram timing Vdimm bios misslot kaput |
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Apr 8 2005, 03:01 PM
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i dunno bout u guys but my bt-j will fail memtest86 if the fsb is more than 210 with cpu interface disable...after enable it addi can run 250 11-4-4-2.5 2.9vdimm...running on d26 mantaray xt 1T
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Apr 8 2005, 08:35 PM
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Got My Two Stick Of BT-D43 Just Now...From Czone..
Later Will Test It! |
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Apr 8 2005, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(teckhooi @ Apr 8 2005, 08:35 PM) Got My Two Stick Of BT-D43 Just Now...From Czone.. what the price?Later Will Test It! |
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Apr 9 2005, 01:58 AM
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QUOTE(kenkk @ Apr 8 2005, 02:41 PM) Now using Merlin , D26 cpc disabled dated 9-2004 if I rememberit correctly.Anyway, this is the latest I can find.U mentioned the cpc beforebut doesn't seem to work for me. May be I have missed out something. Will try benching them again tonite. u should try using the same bios as belowBTW I have mine L12 mode with wire on socket, possible cause ? Thank you. QUOTE(evildonkey @ Apr 8 2005, 03:01 PM) i dunno bout u guys but my bt-j will fail memtest86 if the fsb is more than 210 with cpu interface disable...after enable it addi can run 250 11-4-4-2.5 2.9vdimm...running on d26 mantaray xt 1T |
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Apr 9 2005, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE(jOhnbOy83 @ Apr 7 2005, 03:33 AM) hi guys, may i know wat is 1T, 2T ?? wat is the difference? how to set in the bios? yeah, any link? tq |
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Apr 10 2005, 03:17 AM
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ok,i got sumthing in mind now.
1)my mobo is dual channel(2 on left 1 on right) 2)i got 2x256 dt-d43 n 1x256bt-d43(all ddr400) 3)should i put the bt on right side n dt on left? 4)if i use this method still can tighter the timing? thats all.thank you.... |
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Apr 10 2005, 06:18 PM
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hihi all ...
i wanna ask DDR400 BT-d43 is all CL2.5 or some got CL3 at the kingston label there ??? |
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Apr 10 2005, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(lingling @ Apr 10 2005, 06:18 PM) hihi all ... kingston value ram all written and label there CL3 lel, where got 2.5 wor?i wanna ask DDR400 BT-d43 is all CL2.5 or some got CL3 at the kingston label there ??? |
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Apr 10 2005, 06:57 PM
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last time KVR DDR400 bt-d43 is CL2.5 1 lehhh
now all is CL3 dy ?? i wonder still can run at CL2.5 at 220 and above not ?? |
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Apr 10 2005, 11:44 PM
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mine both bt and dt 43 is set at 3.0CL
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Apr 11 2005, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(lingling @ Apr 10 2005, 06:57 PM) last time KVR DDR400 bt-d43 is CL2.5 1 lehhh can...here... http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=109760now all is CL3 dy ?? i wonder still can run at CL2.5 at 220 and above not ?? |
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Apr 11 2005, 12:29 AM
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why my BT-D43 only can go 215FSB (all default)...i cant push higher.anything i have to do?..my pc spec as my sig. |
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Apr 11 2005, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE(NeophyteHeaven @ Apr 11 2005, 12:29 AM) why my BT-D43 only can go 215FSB (all default)...i cant push higher.anything i have to do?..my pc spec as my sig. |
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Apr 11 2005, 01:46 AM
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QUOTE(NeophyteHeaven @ Apr 11 2005, 12:29 AM) why my BT-D43 only can go 215FSB (all default)...i cant push higher.anything i have to do?..my pc spec as my sig.on Intel my btd can do 264fsb cpc on...memtest stable sumore |
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Apr 11 2005, 02:17 AM
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try loosen up the timing.
bt-d43 dun like tight timing. 2.5-4-4-* OR 3-4-4-* will give you much higher fsb |
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Apr 11 2005, 10:21 AM
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I tried all mod bios Merlin, Tictac and Trats , cpc-on/off or T=1/2 , all not working for dual chanl even @ 200 mhz (DDR400) .
My memory can do 235 mhz at single 2x512mb at 3,4,4 ,11 .I think it's my mobo. I'll tried those older mod bios , they may help eg. D10 . |
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Apr 11 2005, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(kenkk @ Apr 11 2005, 10:21 AM) I tried all mod bios Merlin, Tictac and Trats , cpc-on/off or T=1/2 , all not working for dual chanl even @ 200 mhz (DDR400) . U mean new batch of D43? I don't know, I haven't tried dual channel on my NF7. Now single channel, 1x512MB 2.5-3-2-11 240MHz. 2TMy memory can do 235 mhz at single 2x512mb at 3,4,4 ,11 .I think it's my mobo. I'll tried those older mod bios , they may help eg. D10 . |
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Apr 11 2005, 11:38 AM
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Hrmm..
I tried single channel @ 233 CL9-3-3-3. One stick passed while the other failed |
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Apr 11 2005, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 11 2005, 01:46 AM) Is that a new btd-43 there? cos i heard new one is not as good as the old one.. yea i think its new, from cpz manufacturing date (week 09 Year 05)on Intel my btd can do 264fsb cpc on...memtest stable sumore |
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Apr 11 2005, 01:49 PM
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My experience on my Apacer BT-D43 made 0352. Quite old one.
Anyway, didn't do much oc until now after reading that 939 can go so high and I don't have any TCCD. So need to "train" up my ram to go >250mhz(ddr500). In this training excercise, this is what I notice. 1. 1st start with DC. Only good until 230-235mhz with Memtest. Even I set to 3.3v. 2. So test 1 by 1. Found #1 can do 250mhz. The other until 235mhz. So just run that #2 one with 3.3v for like 10 days. 3. Now both can go >250mhz SC. 4. Next DC them. Same thing only until 235mhz, even though chipset voltage until 1.9v. Suspect maybe the chipset. So now time to train my chipset. Set DC at 235mhz and 1.9v and runs. After 1 day, will reboot and see how. Slowly and slowly. Day by day. Advance 1 mhz or 2 mhz. after like 2 weeks, now I am testing at DC 260mhz. Only Memtest #7 fail. Each pass give me about 50 error. Memtest #5 ok. 5. But at DC 265mhz, Memtest will freeze pc. So thinking of alternative. 6. Now using Simmtester, another free memory testing software. Maybe less stress on cpu or whatever. Can run DC at 265mhz and no error. 7. I notice I can boot by #1 ram at 270mhz, but will freeze at bios mem testing. So donno if 270mhz booting is cpu limit, mobo limit or ram limit. My conlucison. When new, cannot oc. Need time and patience to train up the electronic component, without over done them. Otherwise, will be permanently cacat. My advice. If you ram cannot go high, then set at highest possible stable, like 215mhz and max voltage 2.9v (nf7). Then just do your normal thing with your pc for about 1 week. After that, then try oc and see if can go higher. When I got got my ram, I can only go until 225mhz. Now after more than 1 year of normal use, start to play and found can go so high. |
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Apr 11 2005, 09:35 PM
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wahh .... ram got MEMORY EFFECT kah !!!
can be trained like tat ... jus like real pet |
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Apr 11 2005, 11:22 PM
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mfa333@
u can put at any slot... or u can try 1 by 1 at every each slot... if all of them givin u da same stable setting... then set them gothether la... actually... for tellin slot 1 is better than slot 2 or 3... its more like 'syirik' to me... but somehow ppl will try it... *ops.. fogot la... wat 'syirik' in english??? for who still confuse... i think all d43 will have SPD at CL3... but usually u can set them to CL2.5 & CL2 ( only some stick can but da fsb will limited to around 200 fsb only ) most ocer will use 2.5-4-3-X or 2.5-4-4-x X = 11 (nf2) = 5 (p4) = 6/7 (a64) 2.5-3-3-x usually wont go hi... will end at around 210-235 fsb... some can do 2-2-2-11 on nf7 on certain bios... but i think its bios wit cpc off ... can get tighest timin but u oredi decrease da bandwith... so same la... so set ur d43 to 2.5-4-3-x ( tighest ) or 3-4-4-x & oc as hi u can go... * for 512mb stick on nf2 platform... u need to CPC OFF to oc futher... let say for normal case u will end at 230~240 fsb... wit cpc off will cont oc till 250~260+... but again u oredi decrease da bandwith... but u got no choice... so u need to CPC OFF... epsilon992 dats is burn in method... but as i kno... only winbond chipset can be burn in... no other chipset can go higher tru dis kind of burnin... from u post... u say u use 3.3vdimm on ur d43??? AFAIK... d43 will make error if u put 3.0vdimm & higher... or can say 3vdimm is max da ram can tolerate...  |
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Apr 11 2005, 11:55 PM
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Can BT-D43 do 2-2-2-11 @ 200 Fsb?
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Apr 12 2005, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(stalkerrox @ Apr 11 2005, 11:55 PM) Can BT-D43 do 2-2-2-11 @ 200 Fsb? can...mine 1 can only do until 215 but cpc-off... |
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Apr 12 2005, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(stalkerrox @ Apr 11 2005, 11:55 PM) Can BT-D43 do 2-2-2-11 @ 200 Fsb? on normal case... kenot... but on nf7 or nf7s... got 1 bios wit cpc off ( if im not mistakenly la - im not nf7s user )...wit dis bios... da cpc will automaticly turned off... then can set 2-2-2-11 but with less bandwith coz of cpc off... other brand nf2... kenot la... even u cpc off... so da answer can & cannot la... EDIT: there are some cases where d43 can do 2-2-2-11 not on abit board... can pass memtest but not real prime... This post has been edited by alvarez_: Apr 12 2005, 12:30 AM |
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QUOTE(lingling @ Apr 11 2005, 09:35 PM) wahh .... ram got MEMORY EFFECT kah !!! Yap. Threat them like puppy. And train them like a puppy. Very soon, they will call me uncle ep (as in Scrappy Doo and Scooby Doo). I can ask them go 220. They go 220. Go 250 they go 250. No bad heh. Only too bad cannot train them to shake hand with me.can be trained like tat ... jus like real pet QUOTE(alvarez_ @ Apr 11 2005, 11:22 PM) epsilon992 I know it is burn in method. Initially, my understanding is hynix at >3.0v can get error. I was just play play, with 2.8v and got error at low fsb. Then I just tried to increased by 0.1v just to see how and found ok. So just slowly go and go and now at max 3.3v. And I am now testing at 275mhz. Not with memtester, but simmtester software which is less tough. The idea is just burn in both ram and mobo.dats is burn in method... but as i kno... only winbond chipset can be burn in... no other chipset can go higher tru dis kind of burnin... from u post... u say u use 3.3vdimm on ur d43??? AFAIK... d43 will make error if u put 3.0vdimm & higher... or can say 3vdimm is max da ram can tolerate... Now little bit worry. After burning at so high. Later on, the whole thing just damaged. Oh well. Then got excuse to go to 939. |
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QUOTE(epsilon99 @ Apr 12 2005, 02:30 AM) Yap. Threat them like puppy. And train them like a puppy. Very soon, they will call me uncle ep (as in Scrappy Doo and Scooby Doo). I can ask them go 220. They go 220. Go 250 they go 250. No bad heh. Only too bad cannot train them to shake hand with me. last time i'm also burn my BT-D43 at 3.2V until now nothing. Everything fine. I know it is burn in method. Initially, my understanding is hynix at >3.0v can get error. I was just play play, with 2.8v and got error at low fsb. Then I just tried to increased by 0.1v just to see how and found ok. So just slowly go and go and now at max 3.3v. And I am now testing at 275mhz. Not with memtester, but simmtester software which is less tough. The idea is just burn in both ram and mobo. Now little bit worry. After burning at so high. Later on, the whole thing just damaged. Oh well. Then got excuse to go to 939. |
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QUOTE(alvarez_ @ Apr 11 2005, 11:22 PM) mfa333@ thx for sharing info.so,the tighest i can go is only 2.5-4-3-11 for my rig? u can put at any slot... or u can try 1 by 1 at every each slot... if all of them givin u da same stable setting... then set them gothether la... actually... for tellin slot 1 is better than slot 2 or 3... its more like 'syirik' to me... but somehow ppl will try it... *ops.. fogot la... wat 'syirik' in english??? for who still confuse... i think all d43 will have SPD at CL3... but usually u can set them to CL2.5 & CL2 ( only some stick can but da fsb will limited to around 200 fsb only ) most ocer will use 2.5-4-3-X or 2.5-4-4-x X = 11 (nf2) = 5 (p4) = 6/7 (a64) 2.5-3-3-x usually wont go hi... will end at around 210-235 fsb... some can do 2-2-2-11 on nf7 on certain bios... but i think its bios wit cpc off ... can get tighest timin but u oredi decrease da bandwith... so same la... so set ur d43 to 2.5-4-3-x ( tighest ) or 3-4-4-x & oc as hi u can go... * for 512mb stick on nf2 platform... u need to CPC OFF to oc futher... let say for normal case u will end at 230~240 fsb... wit cpc off will cont oc till 250~260+... but again u oredi decrease da bandwith... but u got no choice... so u need to CPC OFF... epsilon992 dats is burn in method... but as i kno... only winbond chipset can be burn in... no other chipset can go higher tru dis kind of burnin... from u post... u say u use 3.3vdimm on ur d43??? AFAIK... d43 will make error if u put 3.0vdimm & higher... or can say 3vdimm is max da ram can tolerate... |
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Apr 12 2005, 07:04 AM
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epsilon99@
u mean now at 3.3vdimm ur d43 dont have error ar??? CwL@ ur d43 oso can stand 3.2vdimm witout error??? got any improvement (fsb) after burn in or just makin da ram can 'tahan' da hi vdimm? mfa333@ yerps... dats da best timin for nf2 wit ur d43... its not too bad thou if u can get it runnin at least 250 fsb... |
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Apr 12 2005, 08:31 AM
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alvarez_,
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Apr 12 2005, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(alvarez_ @ Apr 12 2005, 12:29 AM) on normal case... kenot... alrites... thnx..but on nf7 or nf7s... got 1 bios wit cpc off ( if im not mistakenly la - im not nf7s user )...wit dis bios... da cpc will automaticly turned off... then can set 2-2-2-11 but with less bandwith coz of cpc off... other brand nf2... kenot la... even u cpc off... so da answer can & cannot la... EDIT: there are some cases where d43 can do 2-2-2-11 not on abit board... can pass memtest but not real prime... i can only get 2-3-3-11 good enough? |
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Apr 12 2005, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(alvarez_ @ Apr 12 2005, 12:29 AM) EDIT: there are some cases where d43 can do 2-2-2-11 not on abit board... can pass memtest but not real prime... I think 2-2-2-11 2T stable on memtest and priming on Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe and on 1T 2-2-3-11 pass memtest and priming both at 200fsb 512x2 summore. Know this from zamree7 as he use the 1T setting for 24/7 on his rig. i think he's one of the lucky ppl to get that DTD43 and able to do tight timing. |
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Apr 12 2005, 01:35 PM
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CwL@ ur d43 oso can stand 3.2vdimm witout error??? got any improvement (fsb) after burn in or just makin da ram can 'tahan' da hi vdimm? Yup , it running without any error But not much different before and after burning. |
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Apr 12 2005, 04:33 PM
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if 2.5-4-3-11,
4 is ras to cas# delay 3 is ras# precharge true? |
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Apr 13 2005, 09:27 AM
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Ok, training finished. Time for the test. Let's see how good are my pets.
Last time, can only do 2-2-2-x until somewhere near 180mhz/360ddr. But that was with Abit Nf7-M mobo. And 2-3-3-x until only 210mhz/420ddr. With max 2.9v. Now, last mid night just gatai gatai to run run and see how. This time used DFI Infinity Ultra NF2 mobo. Was able to do 2-2-2-11 at 3.0v with 225fsb/450ddr. CPC off. Prime for 6h33m no error. The rams were Apacer BT-D43 2x512m in dual channel. The burn-in-ing appears to really can train the rams. Next few weeks will be fun. Let's see how high I can go with 3.0v and 2-2-2-x. And also see how high will 3.3v 2-2-2-x And also 3.3v max fsb. So far I know my DFI mobo can only go until 275mhz. At 276mhz, it will freeze at initial bios memory testing section. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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waa.....all nf2 user kaa??......nf3 user?....for those with dfi lp ut 250gb, need to ask sumthing here......ok first of all, my RAM also based on dtd43(kvr)........for me this RAM is good......currently running fine with 240mhz 2.5-3-3-8 1T(2.8vdimm), memtest 6loops passed and +/-7hours priming(blend mode)......the problem is here, i cant even load to windows if i set my HTT(FSB) to above 240mhz......FYI, i used divider when i try to run more than 240.....in this case, i try 250mhz HTT(FSB)......and i set the dram:fsb ratio to 6:07, thats mean my memory speed is just 214mhz......i do this becoz wanna find the highest possible speed for my proc.......so i let my dtd43 at 214mhz,3-3-3-8 1T,2.7vdimm.......for my proc.,initially i set the multiplier at stock(10x) and vcore 1.560(1.500x104%)......but i stuck at nvraid bios,then my pc reboot, then i try to increase my vcore.......my ram setting is still like i mention above (214mhz)........i try to increase the vcore untill +/- 1.900vcore(a bit high)......still stuck at nv raid bios....then i put back my vcore at 1.560 and i set the multiplier at the lowest possible....in this case i put x5......so the speed is 1250mhz......still i cant load to windows.....FYI im using A64 3000+(stock clock at 2000mhz)......in this case 1250mhz is still below my stock clock.......with above stock voltage (only 0.06v xtra) and above stock HTT(stock is 200mhz, in this case i set my HTT(FSB) to 250mhz) but at snail speed (1250mhz, below stock speed).......i cant get into windows...........my ram setting is still like what i mention above (214mhz,3-3-3-8 1T at 2.7v)even i did increasing the vdimm to 2.8........still stuck at damn nv raid bios screen.......can anybody explain to me why? b4 i try to oc my rig......i did alot of research bout A64 and my board.......every tips ive tried.....but failed......this is not my first time xperience in oc.......b4 this i did oc my axp 2000+ on nf7-s.......so is it my mobo problem or my cpu is holding me back against above 240mhz fsb???coz in dfi-street.com forums.........many forummers easily can boost their fsb(HTT) to 250mhz even can reach 300mhz........so anybody plz help me.......
xtra info:- A64 newcastle 3000+ currently running at 240x9,2160mhz with stock vcore KVR dtd43 240mhz, 2.5-3-3-8, 1T at 2.8vdimm beta bios by oscar wu 31/3/05 (this setting is stable memtest86 6loops passed and priming(blend mode) for +/-7hours) tq in advance |
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Apr 14 2005, 02:17 AM
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QUOTE ......FYI, i used divider when i try to run more than 240.....in this case, i try 250mhz HTT(FSB) set the ldt multiplier to 3 and try again. i believe if you set it to auto it's 4. 240 * 4 it's abit hard on hte mobo. QUOTE so i let my dtd43 at 214mhz,3-3-3-8 1T,2.7vdimm i believe dt-d43 can do higher speed than this. should be able to reach 250Mhz. QUOTE i try to increase the vcore untill +/- 1.900vcore(a bit high) vcore no need so high la. will get pretty hot. i read from dfi webpage the safe voltage is 1.65 oni i'm using dfi lanparty UT 250GB here. look at my sig pretty similar system we got there. off topic where did you get your bios. didn't knew there is such new release of bios from oscar wu. This post has been edited by shadow_dweller: Apr 14 2005, 02:32 AM |
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QUOTE(shadow_dweller @ Apr 14 2005, 02:17 AM) set the ldt multiplier to 3 and try again. tq dude,i believe if you set it to auto it's 4. 240 * 4 it's abit hard on hte mobo. anyway ive tried it (ldt multi.) but cant work lorr......set it at 240x3.....HTT=720......DDR HTT=720x2=1440.....the optimal n safest range is 1200-1600 DDR HTT......but oscar wu said(from xtremesystem forum) certain board can max out at 1800(900HTTx2)........but the safest range is still 1200-1600 DDR HTT.....actually its a bit hard to understand bout this HTT thinggy........just follow wateva the expert says.... QUOTE(shadow_dweller @ Apr 14 2005, 02:17 AM) i believe dt-d43 can do higher speed than this. should be able to reach 250Mhz. like what ive mentioned, i try to archieved 250 speed lor.......but i need to make sure my proc. can be push until 250fsb.......but it seems hard for me to archieve it....becoz i cant even load to windows at 250mhz HTT(fsb).........anyway try to read back my previous post for details.vcore no need so high la. will get pretty hot. i read from dfi webpage the safe voltage is 1.65 oni for vcore, waaa yupp its really damn hot hehehe......but my rig still cant load into windows at this vcore......hehehe......waaa sure kaa the safe voltage is 1.65 only??.....hehehe didnt knew it.....tq anyway..... QUOTE(shadow_dweller @ Apr 14 2005, 02:17 AM) i'm using dfi lanparty UT 250GB here. off topic oso......i get the bios from dfi-street forum.....posted by angry games......bios factory subforums......check it out........but i guess this bios holding me back from archieving 250HTT hehehehe......dunno laaa......just guessing.......look at my sig pretty similar system we got there. off topic where did you get your bios. didn't knew there is such new release of bios from oscar wu. tq for quick respond dude.......n can u tell me bout your setting........did u enable cpu thermal-throtling??.........how bout your dram setting(with nearly 20timing need to set ).........voltage n everything??.......mind to share buddy......tq in advance...... |
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Apr 14 2005, 12:25 PM
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uhh...amd got cpu thermal throtling ?
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Apr 14 2005, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE uhh...amd got cpu thermal throtling ? not sure.....jess1313 from dfi-street.com(he is one of a beta bios modifier for lp ut 250gb).......for ocing better disable this option in bios......i oso not really know what is cpu thermal throtling for.......p/s: i guess we've already off topic......hehehe......this thread is only for kvr dtd43 ocing....hehehe......so to all moderator, im so sorry |
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i heard some of the new bios is not very stable and problematic.
personally i'm using the 14/10 4V beta bios. QUOTE tq for quick respond dude.......n can u tell me bout your setting........did u enable cpu thermal-throtling??.........how bout your dram setting(with nearly 20timing need to set ).........voltage n everything??.......mind to share buddy......tq in advance...... yes i enable cpu thermal throtling. and yes there is thermal throtling in amd64 s754 at least on dfi mobo. try reading thru this url. most of my setting is based on the setting shown by anandtech. hope this help you. http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2198 i attach a 285 htt superpi stable sreenie together with this post This post has been edited by shadow_dweller: Apr 14 2005, 09:05 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Apr 15 2005, 10:51 PM
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just wanna ask.. do you need to off the aircond during burn in? Looking what epsilon99 did, I feel it's time to TRAIN my BT-D43s too...
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Apr 16 2005, 06:34 AM
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thermal-trothing will let ur proc run in slower speed of the bios detect dat ur proc too hot... if im not mistaken la...
ok... actually... if u really want to waste long time to burn in ur ram... i advice u have winbond series of ram... these ram more worth to burn in than d43... ram like bh5 or UTT will gain 5~10mhz by long burn in... @L |
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Apr 16 2005, 03:59 PM
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what u mean by long burn in?
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Apr 16 2005, 08:49 PM
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ok got new newss here.
kingston have launch 512Mb ram BT-D43 with single sided chip. still dunno the performance. holding 2pieces in my hand right now. got the ram with same week production and same board pcb 12 and 13. stock running at 2T but default voltage is 2.7v.... still testing the ram at default clock before proceed with OC This post has been edited by rzonealley: Apr 16 2005, 08:50 PM |
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Apr 16 2005, 08:49 PM) ok got new newss here. Good Luck dude, kingston have launch 512Mb ram BT-D43 with single sided chip. still dunno the performance. holding 2pieces in my hand right now. got the ram with same week production and same board pcb 12 and 13. stock running at 2T but default voltage is 2.7v.... still testing the ram at default clock before proceed with OC let me know the BT-D43 single sided performance |
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Apr 17 2005, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Apr 16 2005, 08:49 PM) kingston have launch 512Mb ram BT-D43 with single sided chip. I got this one too, single sided but default voltage only at 2.6v. Not sure mine is new or old. But oc speed i think not too good. i set 11-3-3-3 and set voltage to 2.9, only got until 221. still dunno the performance. holding 2pieces in my hand right now. got the ram with same week production and same board pcb 12 and 13. stock running at 2T but default voltage is 2.7v.... still testing the ram at default clock before proceed with OC 215 is most stable. My cpu is unlock (tbred so i think no problem to make my kvr run up to 240-250 rite? Or, maybe i'm noob in memory timing. Maybe need to train this kvr 1st. Err anyway, is it older version of kvr bt-d43 got 2 sided? sorry noob here... |
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Apr 17 2005, 02:58 AM
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QUOTE(bzz @ Apr 17 2005, 01:40 AM) I got this one too, single sided but default voltage only at 2.6v. Not sure mine is new or old. But oc speed i think not too good. i set 11-3-3-3 and set voltage to 2.9, only got until 221. 256 module are all single sided and the old bt-d43 are all double sided 215 is most stable. My cpu is unlock (tbred so i think no problem to make my kvr run up to 240-250 rite? Or, maybe i'm noob in memory timing. Maybe need to train this kvr 1st. Err anyway, is it older version of kvr bt-d43 got 2 sided? sorry noob here... and no 240-250fsb also depends on how much chipset voltage ure feeding to the mobo not the vdimm alone |
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Apr 17 2005, 03:09 AM
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QUOTE(bzz @ Apr 17 2005, 01:40 AM) I got this one too, single sided but default voltage only at 2.6v. Not sure mine is new or old. But oc speed i think not too good. i set 11-3-3-3 and set voltage to 2.9, only got until 221. 250 and above, no choice but to run at loose timing..3-4-4-8 or 2.5-4-4-8 215 is most stable. My cpu is unlock (tbred so i think no problem to make my kvr run up to 240-250 rite? Or, maybe i'm noob in memory timing. Maybe need to train this kvr 1st. Err anyway, is it older version of kvr bt-d43 got 2 sided? sorry noob here... |
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Apr 17 2005, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Apr 16 2005, 03:59 PM) what u mean by long burn in? short burn in are like few hours to few days... long burn in is few weeks to few months.. or maybe few years... so strange nia... i have test few d43... all of them 'busuk2' pun can get 240~250 fsb... ( 2T if dual sided stick )... maybe need a good bios then... nice to hear got d43 single sided for 512mb stick... hopes it goes well like 256 stick... way up to 260+ fsb... |
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Apr 17 2005, 12:05 PM
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512mb Hynix. That is good news. That mean very soon we will have 1G ram with 512mb Hynix chip. Hopefully this guy can all go to >250mhz.
Even though at loose 3-4-4-x also never mind. But definitely a much much cheaper solution to go high (speed) and big (memory). |
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Apr 17 2005, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(alvarez_ @ Apr 17 2005, 08:23 AM) nice to hear got d43 single sided for 512mb stick... hopes it goes well like 256 stick... way up to 260+ fsb... i'm praying that it'ill go as high as that... still burn in at 2.85vdimm at default clock.tested so far can reach 228fsb dual channel but still on 2T. hope with more burning in will get beutiful result. |
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Apr 17 2005, 03:54 PM
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i haf one piece of 1x512MB BT-D43 single sided..was shocked to received it as the other ram in the rig (my bros rig) is double sided, it cant dual channel due to tidak sama bank amount. So no choice take out one of my dual sided BT-D43, xchange wit my brother lo..cos im on SC due to 2.4C high fsb and BT-D43 cannot act on divider on DC and high fsb DC giving massive artifacts! But, tat single ram was able to cook way 270+ FSB on 3-4-4-8 SC with my other dual sided BT. Prob is, my cpu aint stable for more than 2hrs prime, only stable 1:1 at 264FSB, to low my low multiplier 2.4C, so now on 5:4 286:231 2.5-4-3-7 2.7V.
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Apr 17 2005, 05:33 PM
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dahsyat betul 270...giler man...okler i kenot resist the temptation anymore...will vmod my mobo and blast those fsb...btw ijan regarding ure abletool i think i'll only be able to get it for u after this month...finals ending on 30th april....any probz??
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Apr 17 2005, 06:44 PM
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wat is 2T n 3T?
how far my d-43 can go with vdimm 2.7v only?my mobo sux n no budget to upgrade it.... |
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Apr 17 2005, 08:56 PM
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i dont think i'm lucky enuff with the single sided 512Mb ram. 228 is bootable and 225 benchable. the ram really hate divider. nothing will boot if put any divider. really piss me off this ram
. its not worth the investment i think. but will tested summore. memtest not past at stock with 1T command at any timing and any voltage. maybe kingston try to sell it with hynix name on it. but dont trust me yet till i confirm with u guys the single sided is shit. |
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Apr 18 2005, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Apr 17 2005, 08:56 PM) i dont think i'm lucky enuff with the single sided 512Mb ram. 228 is bootable and 225 benchable. the ram really hate divider. nothing will boot if put any divider. really piss me off this ram Yeahh... same as me. Cannot reach more than 220 with 2.9v. Iskk... . its not worth the investment i think. but will tested summore.  |
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Apr 18 2005, 11:40 AM
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* offtopic :
why my OC'ed kvr only stable until 225 FSB? after tat PC going to hang/ automatic re-start oso kenot boot. |
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Apr 18 2005, 01:49 PM
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gengstapo..u stucked at what timing?
Just now ive tested the new single sided btd43 courtesy of rzonealley, What ive found is a crap 512x2...at 2T 250htt the windows failed to boot..the second try wouldnt even post.. Since the result is so disapointing, i will not bother to go even further..burn in? pls i dun think its worth it... So guys watch out..new btd43 is not as consistent as the old one.. and, this is not the first time...so if i were u, i would pick something else rather than lame new btd43... As for dtd43, i remember arj case where he got his one oc very poorly..guys, if u can find old btd43 or dtd43 just get it, the new chipset is just pure dissapointment.. |
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Apr 18 2005, 01:57 PM
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the timing is default one. i never modify it. just pushing step by step until max FSB. the max is 226 FSB error-less & benchable. might prob at vdimm as i have not increase it. mine is double sided ddr400.
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thats why i use back my dt d-43....hihihihi...
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 18 2005, 01:49 PM) gengstapo..u stucked at what timing? thanks for the update bro. later on i'll pick up the ram back.Just now ive tested the new single sided btd43 courtesy of rzonealley, What ive found is a crap 512x2...at 2T 250htt the windows failed to boot..the second try wouldnt even post.. Since the result is so disapointing, i will not bother to go even further..burn in? pls i dun think its worth it... So guys watch out..new btd43 is not as consistent as the old one.. and, this is not the first time...so if i were u, i would pick something else rather than lame new btd43... As for dtd43, i remember arj case where he got his one oc very poorly..guys, if u can find old btd43 or dtd43 just get it, the new chipset is just pure dissapointment.. what a very disappointment for a DTD43 performing very poorly. i thought i'm the one who play the ram wrongly. so guys beware of the d43 ram that currently on the market truely a poor overclocker for a low budget items. |
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QUOTE(ijan @ Apr 17 2005, 03:54 PM) i haf one piece of 1x512MB BT-D43 single sided..was shocked to received it as the other ram in the rig (my bros rig) is double sided, it cant dual channel due to tidak sama bank amount. So no choice take out one of my dual sided BT-D43, xchange wit my brother lo..cos im on SC due to 2.4C high fsb and BT-D43 cannot act on divider on DC and high fsb DC giving massive artifacts! But, tat single ram was able to cook way 270+ FSB on 3-4-4-8 SC with my other dual sided BT. Prob is, my cpu aint stable for more than 2hrs prime, only stable 1:1 at 264FSB, to low my low multiplier 2.4C, so now on 5:4 286:231 2.5-4-3-7 2.7V. 512MB single sided BT-D43? that is super rare... in fact i never found any or heard about it before. it's 8-chips isn't it? wah... bt-d43 64mb x 8 |
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Apr 18 2005, 07:48 PM
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The one that i tested is single sided...its new btd43 and oc poorly..
its not what i expected from a btd43 range...250 on2T unable to boot? hmm must be something wrong in the manufacturing process..the ram seems contaminated.. |
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Apr 18 2005, 08:49 PM
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ok.. memtested my dt-d43..
on 1T, can go up to 265.. but on 2T, only 270++ aje.. both on 3-4-4-x... u guys on 2T can go how high? |
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Apr 18 2005, 09:46 PM
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memtest unstable---275 2T
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Apr 19 2005, 12:43 AM
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wat is 1T,2T n 3T?
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Apr 19 2005, 01:21 AM
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now i'm running my bt-d43's on 260 @ 3-4-4-8 2T @ 2.8vdimm
so far memtest running with no problems...gonna try more than that later ... any ideas how much further it can go ? |
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QUOTE(calvin @ Apr 19 2005, 01:21 AM) now i'm running my bt-d43's on 260 @ 3-4-4-8 2T @ 2.8vdimm should be around 260-265mhz. more than that ur lucky... but if u're on 2T and single channel there's a slight chance to go further.so far memtest running with no problems...gonna try more than that later ... any ideas how much further it can go ? |
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Apr 19 2005, 01:38 AM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Apr 19 2005, 01:33 AM) should be around 260-265mhz. more than that ur lucky... but if u're on 2T and single channel there's a slight chance to go further. hmm...i'm on dual channel .. and using a a64 3000+ .. tried with a TCCD but doesn't want to boot into windows at 2.7ghz .. =/ |
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Apr 19 2005, 03:33 AM
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QUOTE(calvin @ Apr 19 2005, 01:38 AM) hmm...i'm on dual channel .. and using a a64 3000+ .. tried with a TCCD but doesn't want to boot into windows at 2.7ghz .. =/ ur proc can run on 2.7??? well if ur proc can do up to 2.7 maybe the TCCD got a problem. loose the timing, feed the ram around 2.85 or 2.9vdimm in some cases need up to 3.1vdimm to make the ram fly. 300mhz is achievable by TCCD if i'm not mistaken more than that have to do a lot of effort. |
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Apr 19 2005, 01:26 PM
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can sum1 answer my question?
wat is 1T,2T n 3T? |
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Apr 19 2005, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Apr 19 2005, 01:26 PM) can sum1 answer my question? They are all delays of time in T. Usually lower means shorter delay.wat is 1T,2T n 3T? Theres so many ram timings to set, which one are u referring to specifically? |
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 Apr 19 2005, 04:03 PM
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here is my result ,
My 2 x 512MB Kingston DT-D43 (16c) only able to get 2-2-3-11 at 211MHz, 1T, (DDR422)  (2.9v)2-2-3-11 at 215MHz prime test5 got 2errors after 6runs.. tested in my ABIT NF7-S . Im using AMD XP TB-B 2000+ OC to 2.22GHz (211x10.5) 1.7v. just now play with 2T, can easily get 2-2-2-11 at DDR420 i dint test how high these pair DT-D43 can go coz due to my processor cannot go high... i don't like devider also although my result not impressive, just try to give some info Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Apr 19 2005, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(fr!tzz @ Apr 19 2005, 02:00 PM) They are all delays of time in T. Usually lower means shorter delay. i know abt ram timing like 2-3-3-11 but some ppl put 1 more(T1,T2,T3).where i can find to this option to change it?Theres so many ram timings to set, which one are u referring to specifically? |
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Apr 19 2005, 05:23 PM
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har i thought only got 1t and 2t? if not mistaken is call cpc on and off (correct me if im wrong) 1t better then 2t for sure
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Apr 19 2005, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Apr 19 2005, 05:23 PM) har i thought only got 1t and 2t? if not mistaken is call cpc on and off (correct me if im wrong) 1t better then 2t for sure correctcpc on=1t, off=2t [on most nforce2 n other older socket board] later platform will use 1T n 2T if there's no option for this in bios, either u can use A64tweaker, or say hallo to 2T the rest of ur life |
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Apr 20 2005, 12:18 AM
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can i ask a question??
wat is d major difference between this two scenario 2-4-4-8 and 2.5-4-4-8? runnin fsb 231:- a. 2-4-4-8 with 3.2V b. 2.5-4-4-8 with 2.9V coz i dun have any software to really test it unless Prime95 This post has been edited by KahLooN: Apr 20 2005, 12:18 AM |
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Apr 20 2005, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(KahLooN @ Apr 20 2005, 12:18 AM) can i ask a question?? If you have memtest86 software, you can try and look at the memory transfer rate between 2-x-y-z and 2.5-x-y-z. If I remember correct, they are same, for some reason that I have no idea of.wat is d major difference between this two scenario 2-4-4-8 and 2.5-4-4-8? runnin fsb 231:- a. 2-4-4-8 with 3.2V b. 2.5-4-4-8 with 2.9V coz i dun have any software to really test it unless Prime95 Other software, you can try sisoft sandra and lavalys and look at the memory transfer rate. |
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Apr 20 2005, 02:05 AM
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Just wanna ask. I'm running 162FSB. Am using the Hynix KVRs. Should I leave the RAM settings as By SPD or set it at 4/5?
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QUOTE(ianho @ Apr 20 2005, 02:05 AM) Just wanna ask. I'm running 162FSB. Am using the Hynix KVRs. Should I leave the RAM settings as By SPD or set it at 4/5? i suggest u set it manually.. coz u can adjust the timings [try 2-2-2x if u wanna extreme oc with vdimm=2.8+v, or 2.5-3-3-x for slight oc] IMO, there's no point ram runs faster than ur proc, so set it as 1:1 instead |
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Apr 20 2005, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(KahLooN @ Apr 20 2005, 12:18 AM) can i ask a question?? Detail explanation on Memory latency. wat is d major difference between this two scenario 2-4-4-8 and 2.5-4-4-8? runnin fsb 231:- a. 2-4-4-8 with 3.2V b. 2.5-4-4-8 with 2.9V coz i dun have any software to really test it unless Prime95 http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1637762,00.asp |
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Apr 21 2005, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(e-jump @ Apr 19 2005, 05:37 PM) correct how abt my bios dont hv no option abt this?that A64tweaker only for amd64 or all amd can use?any other software for barton mobo?cpc on=1t, off=2t [on most nforce2 n other older socket board] later platform will use 1T n 2T if there's no option for this in bios, either u can use A64tweaker, or say hallo to 2T the rest of ur life |
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Apr 21 2005, 02:48 AM
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barton can run on a huge range of mobo with diff chipset lah.. what mobo in particular?
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Apr 21 2005, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Apr 21 2005, 02:48 AM) barton can run on a huge range of mobo with diff chipset lah.. what mobo in particular? not answering ur question... just wanna ask how the performance of that apacer btd43??? |
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Apr 22 2005, 05:32 AM
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Guys i have a good news for cheap btd43 owners...
some guy here suggested that burning in btd43 would result in no increase in performance...but that doesnt applied to me.. These last few days, i ve been running a burn in session with 2.85vdimm for few days---my result before burning in was a decent 264htt.. After a few burning in session, i manage to break 265 and now 2hrs walltime running at DDR540 (270htt) stable so far....i dunno how far this chip can go..but im expecting it to reach max at 275..hopefully..running at 2T of course..Have yet try running 1T |
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Apr 25 2005, 02:02 PM
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Does 2-2-2-6 @ 2.7 @ 185fsb. I think can push harder. Will try n see
Both apacers are double sided BTD43s. This post has been edited by ceo684: Apr 25 2005, 02:03 PM |
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Apr 25 2005, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 22 2005, 05:32 AM) Guys i have a good news for cheap btd43 owners... hey good burn in.. some guy here suggested that burning in btd43 would result in no increase in performance...but that doesnt applied to me.. These last few days, i ve been running a burn in session with 2.85vdimm for few days---my result before burning in was a decent 264htt.. After a few burning in session, i manage to break 265 and now 2hrs walltime running at DDR540 (270htt) stable so far....i dunno how far this chip can go..but im expecting it to reach max at 275..hopefully..running at 2T of course..Have yet try running 1T what test no u using and how many errors? |
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Apr 25 2005, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(amok @ Apr 25 2005, 04:50 PM) hey good burn in.. i manage to run memtest stable at 275htt all test stable for 14hrs.. what test no u using and how many errors?and test no5 stable for also 10++ hours.. so i can conclude: 275htt @ 2.5-4-3-8 @ 2T @ Dual Channel @ 512 x 2 Impressive for rm350 ram... This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Apr 25 2005, 05:58 PM |
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madness...
i hope i got a spare rig to burn in a week, n wish it'll go 300 p/s: now only 265 1T, 272 2T :? This post has been edited by e-jump: Apr 25 2005, 05:54 PM |
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Apr 25 2005, 05:59 PM
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i would prefer 265 1T anyday vs even 300 2T..
urs a gem..have to admit that.... |
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Apr 25 2005, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 25 2005, 05:48 PM) i manage to run memtest stable at 275htt all test stable for 14hrs.. and test no5 stable for also 10++ hours.. so i can conclude: 275htt @ 2.5-4-3-8 @ 2T Impressive for rm350 ram... .. now you make me in the mood of burning in again .wait till my rig is rebuild again... previosly got till 260htt@2.5-3-3-8 @ 2T@2.8Vdimm |
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Apr 25 2005, 06:33 PM
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I bought 2 x 512 DT-D43 cannot reach 200FSB dual channel in NF-7. Today I received 2 x512 BT-D43 still cannot reach FSB200. Any helpful hints other than single piece? Change mobo?
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Apr 25 2005, 09:01 PM
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be patience my friend..
try manual timing config 1st its a lil tough for u coz nf2 boards didnt like so much to pir it with double sided rams |
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Apr 25 2005, 09:24 PM
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Um.. at 2T, how fast fsb can I expect to go with CL2 timing with BTD43 and voltage ~2.8/9v?
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Apr 25 2005, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(jwyj @ Apr 25 2005, 06:33 PM) I bought 2 x 512 DT-D43 cannot reach 200FSB dual channel in NF-7. Today I received 2 x512 BT-D43 still cannot reach FSB200. Any helpful hints other than single piece? Change mobo? Your NF-7 is which version ? The Nforce II mobo chipset got 2 version. The 400 and non-400 version (earlier one). The 1st batch of NF2 chipset was only rated 333. |
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Apr 27 2005, 12:14 AM
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nobody runs these things at CL2 wan ar?
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Apr 27 2005, 08:47 AM
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CL2 at 200fsb with vdimm 2.9++v i think can [those ddr400 modules]
btw, memtest using std test for 12hrs at 265 3-4-4-10 1T DC, got 26errors la after 68pass This post has been edited by e-jump: Apr 27 2005, 08:49 AM |
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Apr 27 2005, 08:55 AM
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26 errors after 68 passes is good already...
Stick with that la...u wont even notice the RAM is a bit unstable... |
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Apr 27 2005, 05:48 PM
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which one d43 module is good? single side or double side?
i hav 2*512 double side d43(BT+DT) . i just saw new and cheap d43 nowdays use single side!. |
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Apr 27 2005, 06:05 PM
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haha...got myself a pair of BT-D43....manage to clock it to 260 FSB...
timings are 3-3-4-4-10 |
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Apr 27 2005, 09:19 PM
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Whos using what version and berapa sides chips? Can we have a D43 owners thread?
Im using 2x512 Apacer BT-D43 double sided |
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Apr 28 2005, 01:23 PM
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intend going to buy KVR BT-D43 and DT-d43..
where can get it in LYP ?? Single side or double side... Abit NF7(V1 or V2 ?) is good mobo to oveclock Sempron 2200 rite ?? |
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Apr 28 2005, 06:20 PM
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I have bad news for soon to be KVR btd43 owners..
The new btd unable to live up to its name anymore... The results are not consistent---if u r looking for btd43 look for old one instead of newest.. I have one btd43 here capable of pulling DDR550 @ 2.5-4-3-6 @ 2T @ 2.85v.. The new doesnt even manage to do DDR 480 @ 3-4-4-8 @ 2T Buying right now is like gambling a bit---lucky if u got DDR500 capable d43.. This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Apr 28 2005, 06:20 PM |
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Apr 28 2005, 07:02 PM
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wauuu...if want to buy new one..
which chipset and code should we refer to ?? |
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Apr 29 2005, 02:25 AM
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find hynix chipset.
look for the last few codes. look for either bt-d43 , or dt-d43. if possible ask for older stocks since the new batches are not performing well for OCing. |
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Apr 29 2005, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 28 2005, 06:20 PM) I have bad news for soon to be KVR btd43 owners.. how about the new batch of dtd43?is it good as before or already no as good as before?The new btd unable to live up to its name anymore... The results are not consistent---if u r looking for btd43 look for old one instead of newest.. I have one btd43 here capable of pulling DDR550 @ 2.5-4-3-6 @ 2T @ 2.85v.. The new doesnt even manage to do DDR 480 @ 3-4-4-8 @ 2T Buying right now is like gambling a bit---lucky if u got DDR500 capable d43.. |
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Apr 29 2005, 09:44 PM
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Actually the performance is rather equivalent to that of new btd43...
But i might be wrong, some are good while others are not... The problem is consistency of the chip... I bet the chipset is contaminated during the processing stage making the quality suffered...But hey, looking at how cheap RAM is today, i think its a good bet.. |
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Apr 29 2005, 10:32 PM
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That day look for D43 chipsets, mostly all gone liao
Really popular among overclockers plus the price is so cheap now...worth it kao kao, unlike 1.5 months ago... |
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Apr 29 2005, 11:34 PM
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my DT-D43 can run CL2, but only 2-3-3-x not 2-2-2-x at 200mhz
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Apr 30 2005, 01:50 AM
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how about 232x? not stable rite?
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Apr 30 2005, 06:04 PM
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really cant get bt d 43 from LYP ..
Any new Chipset recommend ?? |
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Apr 30 2005, 07:13 PM
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Samsung TCCD or Winbond UTT.
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Apr 30 2005, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(ychwang @ Apr 29 2005, 11:34 PM) my DT-D43 can run CL2, but only 2-3-3-x not 2-2-2-x at 200mhz D43 chipsets can't do 2-2-2-x 1Mostly at 200Mhz is 2-3-3-5 |
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Apr 30 2005, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Apr 30 2005, 08:16 PM) D43 chipsets can't do 2-2-2-x 1 can.... with tictac's mantarays CPC off bios Mostly at 200Mhz is 2-3-3-5 |
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Apr 30 2005, 10:51 PM
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Which shop selling Samsung TCCD or Winbond UTT ??
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Apr 30 2005, 11:00 PM
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MyPC LYP and a bunch of others.. u can also buy from our forumers mah
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May 1 2005, 01:40 AM
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my 2 X 512MB Kingston DT-D43 can do 2-2-2-5, 1T at 193MHz only
memtest run 8hours no error . 2-2-3-11, 1T at 200MHz , havent try the x-x-x-5 yet at 200MHz all did it in my ABIT NF7-S, 2.9v i wish i got booster........... Attached thumbnail(s) 
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May 1 2005, 02:31 PM
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This is my DT-D43 running at 247Mhz@2T, 2.75v
 Gonna try 300HTT later with divider at 166Mhz, gonna try to hit 2.7Ghz This post has been edited by Bliz: May 1 2005, 02:32 PM |
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May 2 2005, 02:05 AM
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QUOTE(Sphenix @ Mar 17 2005, 06:49 PM) Take out your ram.............. |
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May 2 2005, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(Chee @ May 2 2005, 02:05 AM) pc-zone still available? go to THUNDERMATCH floor 3!only bt nowdays! BTW: which one is better? single side or double side ram chip? This post has been edited by Mr_47: May 2 2005, 12:47 PM |
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May 3 2005, 11:50 AM
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i lagi interested to know the difference. i heard dunno wat double sided rams sumtimes got problems?
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May 3 2005, 02:08 PM
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512*2 Double sided BTD43, work in slot 2 and 4 only in my abit kw7 (kt880). Slot one and three gives only 512 mb detected.
Some sources off the net said dual channel double sided is the best |
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May 3 2005, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ May 3 2005, 02:08 PM) 512*2 Double sided BTD43, work in slot 2 and 4 only in my abit kw7 (kt880). Slot one and three gives only 512 mb detected. no wonder old school dt-d43 and bt_d43 (doubleside) is good Some sources off the net said dual channel double sided is the best and "MAHAL GILER". almost rm600 i get for both 512 of them! using here both double side! proud about it! This post has been edited by Mr_47: May 3 2005, 10:36 PM |
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May 3 2005, 11:41 PM
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cool.
i got one double sided BT-D43. now gotta look for another one more. baskit shops in sunway selling 256MB for RM190. annen they gimme price RM180 saying it's almost belowmarket price. |
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May 4 2005, 12:34 AM
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wah, tat means my 2 dbl sided "gems" worth 600? cool... i got em on the lower side of 3xx
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May 4 2005, 09:54 AM
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I think he bought three years ago la.
his rig is pretty much around that age nowdays they sell at garage sale section from RM160-175 oniez. still looking for a double side BT-D43 or DT-D43 ram la... |
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May 4 2005, 01:12 PM
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DT-D43 512MB Double sided owner here
.Got 2 stick,1 bought during Pcfair2005 another 1 bought from mr.anderson one of our forumer here last month. Now I'm running my DT-D43 at 250FSB DDR400. above 250 not try yet since i'm using chaplang PSU. |
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May 7 2005, 04:19 PM
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A little bit confuse on this. I heard that new BT-D43 and DT-D43 is single sided while old one is double sided. Is it the old one is better ? Going to buy a pair so please give advice.
DT-D43 is better than BT-D43 ? |
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May 7 2005, 05:15 PM
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DT is generally better than BT.
but stil depend on ur luck. |
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May 7 2005, 05:22 PM
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hmm..but DT is quite hard to find...
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May 7 2005, 06:58 PM
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DT newer than BT wor... how come got so much BT ar?
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May 7 2005, 07:48 PM
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bt n dt r known as high potential to oc..
but its not confirm 100% it will perform, where luck also play major role here.. try getting bt n dt fron 2004 batch how to know what batch? i also donno how to differentiate |
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May 7 2005, 08:12 PM
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well.. mine's from the time where apacer was still using the old orangey box packaging
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May 13 2005, 04:44 PM
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hey guys, does lowyat still have stock for 256MB Kingston DT/BT-D43 chip?? which shop ??
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May 13 2005, 06:31 PM
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so far no news of any bt/dt sighted at lyp.
maybe u should go to smaller far corner shops.they might hold some old stock. |
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May 13 2005, 09:49 PM
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Seems like my DT-D43 are crap sticks, can only do 242Mhz, 3-4-4-8@2T 2.85V
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May 13 2005, 10:16 PM
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i got double sided BT-D43...but still cant push it more than 220FSB...not sure is it cause of my mobo too |
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May 14 2005, 01:06 AM
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I have ever seen DT J during i travel china last week. It is original hynix memory module, damn it i should buy that time, too bad no time for me. i bet this DT J better than BT J
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May 14 2005, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(NeophyteHeaven @ May 13 2005, 10:16 PM) i got double sided BT-D43...but still cant push it more than 220FSB...not sure is it cause of my mobo toosnap shot of my ram's production date...  This post has been edited by sidewinderz: May 14 2005, 12:17 PM |
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May 14 2005, 11:08 PM
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Kill one stick of my DT oledi... i dunno if warranty they will replace with same
chip or not... but my big guess is infineon hehe |
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May 15 2005, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ May 14 2005, 11:08 PM) Kill one stick of my DT oledi... i dunno if warranty they will replace with same wow...wat happened?? chip or not... but my big guess is infineon hehe |
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May 15 2005, 03:06 PM
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My 1 only 2.5-4-4-8@3.0vdimm 466MHz FSB/DRAM 3/5...not so fell many improvement...
I have 1 question.... The big capacity of the ram can pull down the result of the sisoft sandra or any benchmarking ar ? This post has been edited by MonkeYsua: May 15 2005, 03:07 PM |
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May 15 2005, 08:15 PM
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um..generally 256mb sticks perform a lil better than 512 for highest fsb..
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May 15 2005, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(teNtiOn @ May 7 2005, 04:19 PM) A little bit confuse on this. I heard that new BT-D43 and DT-D43 is single sided while old one is double sided. Is it the old one is better ? Going to buy a pair so please give advice. lesser chips per module supposed to perform better... but dunno lahDT-D43 is better than BT-D43 ? looks like the single sided 512MB modules are those with 64MB per chips |
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May 16 2005, 06:20 PM
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1 question ,y my sisoft sandra is show memory band is 64-bit only.Which slot is the way to runing 1&2 or 1&3,my mobo is AN7 la...
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May 17 2005, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(MonkeYsua @ May 16 2005, 06:20 PM) 1 question ,y my sisoft sandra is show memory band is 64-bit only.Which slot is the way to runing 1&2 or 1&3,my mobo is AN7 la... 1&3 or 2&3 will make it run dual channelbut as for buswidth, it'll remain 64-bit |
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May 17 2005, 02:48 AM
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hu hu hu. got my BT-D43 - but not yet try OCing it cos no proper PSU. using MEC PSU, i dare not risk
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May 17 2005, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(MonkeYsua @ May 16 2005, 06:20 PM) 1 question ,y my sisoft sandra is show memory band is 64-bit only.Which slot is the way to runing 1&2 or 1&3,my mobo is AN7 la... If i want to runing at 128bit,how? Coz i try with another pc which is using asus SLI mobo DC are showing 128bit in the sisoft sandra there wo... |
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May 18 2005, 06:57 PM
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hmm.... how much should i let go 2*256MB BT-D43 that confirm can do 250mhz @ 2.8v? around RM160-RM180 reasonable?
edit: and 1 of it can do 268mhz CL2.5 stable at the same voltage This post has been edited by soulfly: May 18 2005, 06:58 PM |
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May 19 2005, 02:43 AM
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i think its reasonable for that kind of performance.
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May 24 2005, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(ychwang @ Apr 7 2005, 12:32 AM) normally DT43 can run 250mhz at least. Try straight go to 250mhz with loose timing first, then slowly try to tighten it. What is your suggestion of the loose timing value ? Need to boost the vdimm ? |
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May 24 2005, 06:21 PM
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um.. anyone run dual sided + single sided D43 together around fsb220+?
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Jun 21 2005, 04:58 AM
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phew.. this thread going up again!
i just bought 512*2 dtd43 double sided ram from lowyat yesterday.. ok after grueling 4 hour non stop oc, i managed to get at 2.85v 1:1 200mhz 2-2-3-5 @ 1T 255 2.5 -3-3-5 @1T 260 3-3-3-5 @ 1T 270 3-3-3-5 @ 2T i not prime yet.. and ran pi benchy 3 times without error. i just want to say... hey u no budget oc'rs out there grab this ram fast! so dem cool but still unsure if can go higher or not.. edit : cpu-z why suddendly the cpu-z show i used divider? i never set it. This post has been edited by Scud_eSpade: Jun 21 2005, 05:27 AM |
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Jun 21 2005, 02:12 PM
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hmm.... where did u buy ur dbl sided rams?
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Jun 21 2005, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 21 2005, 02:12 PM) hmm.... where did u buy ur dbl sided rams? MyPC. they hv about 10 stock. Actually they showcase the BT at the top.. but i told them to search below the stacked ram and walla.. found this DT |
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Jun 21 2005, 07:30 PM
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um, ur ddr400 can do 2-2-3-5? i tot shud be ~ 2-3-2-5?
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Jun 21 2005, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(Scud_eSpade @ Jun 21 2005, 04:58 AM) phew.. this thread going up again! how much you bought?i just bought 512*2 dtd43 double sided ram from lowyat yesterday.. ok after grueling 4 hour non stop oc, i managed to get at 2.85v 1:1 200mhz 2-2-3-5 @ 1T 255 2.5 -3-3-5 @1T 260 3-3-3-5 @ 1T 270 3-3-3-5 @ 2T i not prime yet.. and ran pi benchy 3 times without error. i just want to say... hey u no budget oc'rs out there grab this ram fast! so dem cool but still unsure if can go higher or not.. edit : cpu-z why suddendly the cpu-z show i used divider? i never set it. |
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Jun 21 2005, 09:56 PM
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rm175.. those seller r darn hard to makan la..
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Jun 22 2005, 09:17 AM
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duH~
they know their stuff!! anyway, i'm taking some Corsair Value Select RAMS, hope can arrive by besok. dunno wat chips they have, jeng jeng jeng jeng~ I will post results. Anyway, good lar you get at RM175. That Global^It S.o.B say he and his friend go and sapu all the Bt-D43 and Dt and now he's selling at RM180 for BT-D43. Damn i hate middleman. |
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Jun 22 2005, 01:46 PM
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scud, try 3-4-4-x n see how high at 1T
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Jun 22 2005, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(Scud_eSpade @ Jun 21 2005, 04:58 AM) bcoz u use half multiit is very unrecommended to use half multi |
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Jun 22 2005, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(Scud_eSpade @ Jun 21 2005, 04:58 AM) phew.. this thread going up again! i only see ur FSB is 270mhz...but ur RAM ratio is CPU/10, so ur RAM maybe is not running at 270mhz.i just bought 512*2 dtd43 double sided ram from lowyat yesterday.. ok after grueling 4 hour non stop oc, i managed to get at 2.85v 1:1 200mhz 2-2-3-5 @ 1T 255 2.5 -3-3-5 @1T 260 3-3-3-5 @ 1T 270 3-3-3-5 @ 2T i not prime yet.. and ran pi benchy 3 times without error. i just want to say... hey u no budget oc'rs out there grab this ram fast! so dem cool but still unsure if can go higher or not.. edit : cpu-z why suddendly the cpu-z show i used divider? i never set it. i've tested with half point multi. ur real clock for the RAM is 256mhz only (correct me if im wrong). This post has been edited by hollowbean: Jun 22 2005, 04:11 PM |
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Jun 22 2005, 04:21 PM
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ok.. will try integer multi.. wil report the result soon
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Jun 23 2005, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jun 22 2005, 09:17 AM) duH~ Haha.. same here. Not that he's giving us at 150 or something.. then we'll support him.they know their stuff!! anyway, i'm taking some Corsair Value Select RAMS, hope can arrive by besok. dunno wat chips they have, jeng jeng jeng jeng~ I will post results. Anyway, good lar you get at RM175. That Global^It S.o.B say he and his friend go and sapu all the Bt-D43 and Dt and now he's selling at RM180 for BT-D43. Damn i hate middleman. Anyway I got another stick from fallenstar, maxes out ~250-255fsb. |
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Jun 23 2005, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE edit : cpu-z why suddendly the cpu-z show i used divider? i never set it. when you are using 9.5 multiplier you are actually running at 270* (9.5/10) = 256.5Mhz instead of 270Mhz. try using mulitplier 9 or any round number for better performance. jz my 2 cents. |
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Jun 24 2005, 09:43 PM
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bought these at MyPC today.. paid RM 340 for 2 sticks...
Kingston VR PC3200 Vdimm = 2.85 will definitely try higher HTT / better timings..   This post has been edited by dinster: Jun 24 2005, 09:44 PM |
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Jun 24 2005, 10:03 PM
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dinster, those sets of RAM are definetely from good batches. Wow, I think I should get a set of DTD-43, Btw, I always had good experience with stuffs from MyPC. Seems like they handpicked some of those stuffs. How it fares in Memtest anyway?
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Jun 24 2005, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(dinster @ Jun 24 2005, 09:43 PM) bought these at MyPC today.. paid RM 340 for 2 sticks... Dinster, I had this RAM but is on week 18. I'm using 4 pcs 512MB for Venice 3200+. I manage to reached 220Mhz only. Hei, my I know what voltage you use for the RAM ?Kingston VR PC3200 Vdimm = 2.85 will definitely try higher HTT / better timings.. |
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Jun 24 2005, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Jun 24 2005, 10:03 PM) dinster, those sets of RAM are definetely from good batches. Wow, I think I should get a set of DTD-43, Btw, I always had good experience with stuffs from MyPC. Seems like they handpicked some of those stuffs. How it fares in Memtest anyway? Memtest Stable (Test 5) stable for 30 mins.. tak sempat nak buat lama.. now at my hometown already.. btw there's no more DT-D43 at MyPC.. i bought the last pair.. BT-D43 = lots of them...... QUOTE(thamch @ Jun 24 2005, 10:46 PM) Dinster, I had this RAM but is on week 18. I'm using 4 pcs 512MB for Venice 3200+. I manage to reached 220Mhz only. Hei, my I know what voltage you use for the RAM ? already stated lerr.. 2.85 Vdimm.. wanted to give more vdimm but that's max already.. (MSI Neo2 Plat) This post has been edited by dinster: Jun 24 2005, 11:05 PM |
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Jun 24 2005, 11:08 PM
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hehe din... booster satu mari lor.. hahaa.. then got more volts
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Jun 25 2005, 12:23 AM
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hehe.. dinster.. you should thank you me
ok, i bought this DT-D43 long time ago .. My KINGSTON 2x512MB DT-D43 (double-sided) in action test bed : Processor : AMD64 3000+ Winchester, (250x9) default voltage. Mobo : DFI NF4-DAGF (BIOS 414) RAM : Kingston 2X512MB DDR400 DT-D43 (double-sided) Vdimm : 2.85v , 1T (actualy i forgot is use 2.8v or 2.9v already.. )  sorry for the pic, don't know why cannot upload to LY.NET My advise : useless to apply more than 3.0v voltage to DT-D43. not trust me ? go try and see able to push to 260MHz with same timing and voltage, memtest#5 passed at least 5hours, but got error in memtest#8 more than 2.9v memtest#5 got errors. |
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Jun 25 2005, 12:42 AM
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this is the Everest Memory Lantecy when i was doing 260MHz 2.5-3-3-7, 1T, 2.85v
prime failed after 1hour  early conclusion for my DT-D43 : I think the tight timing and high MHz for the DT-D43 is around 250~260. |
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Jun 25 2005, 12:51 AM
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great OC paul..
nice meeting u.. |
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Jun 25 2005, 01:01 AM
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I waiting to see your result oh ~
hope you enjoy with it ~ |
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Jun 25 2005, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(dinster @ Jun 24 2005, 11:05 PM) Memtest Stable (Test 5) stable for 30 mins.. tak sempat nak buat lama.. now at my hometown already.. btw there's no more DT-D43 at MyPC.. i bought the last pair.. BT-D43 = lots of them...... already stated lerr.. 2.85 Vdimm.. wanted to give more vdimm but that's max already.. (MSI Neo2 Plat) Besides changing the RAM settings. Do you change other settings like HTT, etc.... ? |
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Jun 25 2005, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(thamch @ Jun 25 2005, 09:21 AM) Dinster, what do u mean by other settings ?Besides changing the RAM settings. Do you change other settings like HTT, etc.... ? if u're using Neo2 Plat, there's not much settings in there.. HTT = 250 mhz HT Freq = 4x vdimm = 2.85 Cool N Quite = Disabled what else eh ? |
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Jun 25 2005, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(dinster @ Jun 25 2005, 12:53 PM) what do u mean by other settings ? I'm using DFI NF4 Ultra-D. Not sure what to set inorder to get 250Mhz for the RAM.if u're using Neo2 Plat, there's not much settings in there.. HTT = 250 mhz HT Freq = 4x vdimm = 2.85 Cool N Quite = Disabled what else eh ? |
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Jun 25 2005, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(thamch @ Jun 25 2005, 01:03 PM) I'm using DFI NF4 Ultra-D. Not sure what to set inorder to get 250Mhz for the RAM. perhaps u can ask people here.. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=135000 DFI's bios is quite complicated (for PRO users) |
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Jun 25 2005, 03:37 PM
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dfi + hynix got some compatibility problem
@ ahpaul82 heh.. different modules perform differently.. u think all venice can hit 3ghz? no right? all TCCD can do 300mhz? no right? not that we don't trust u.. but with more volts they can go quite high on the modules i've seen |
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Jun 25 2005, 05:16 PM
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yes .. finally got 280Mhz super pi 1M stable on my bt-d43 KVR on DFI LP NF3 250GB
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Jun 25 2005, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(shadow_dweller @ Jun 25 2005, 05:16 PM) yes .. finally got 280Mhz super pi 1M stable on my bt-d43 KVR on DFI LP NF3 250GB eiiii.... damn good |
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Jun 25 2005, 08:45 PM
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wow...incredible
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Jun 25 2005, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(babyelf @ Jun 25 2005, 03:37 PM) dfi + hynix got some compatibility problem hehehe... @ ahpaul82 heh.. different modules perform differently.. u think all venice can hit 3ghz? no right? all TCCD can do 300mhz? no right? not that we don't trust u.. but with more volts they can go quite high on the modules i've seen maybe need more 'training' gua .. hopefully can hit 270MHz with tight tming lor wish me luck i saw someone can do 300MHz before , 3-3-3-8.. |
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Jun 27 2005, 11:52 AM
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my clock at 255mhz winchester 1800+ s939
HT @ 4x .. using hynix bt-d43 512x2 @ 3-3-3-7 vdimm 2.8(max volt for my mobo) consider ok or sucks???if i push 260mhz the system is very unstable.. newbie here... |
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Jun 27 2005, 12:01 PM
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hey DT-D43 users.. push till 270 lar..
u guys can feed em with more volts, unlike me |
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Jun 27 2005, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(shift2 @ Jun 27 2005, 11:52 AM) my clock at 255mhz winchester 1800+ s939 Mine even worse lar, DT-D43 only 242Mhz@3-3-3-8 Vdimm=2.85HT @ 4x .. using hynix bt-d43 512x2 @ 3-3-3-7 vdimm 2.8(max volt for my mobo) consider ok or sucks???if i push 260mhz the system is very unstable.. newbie here... |
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Jun 27 2005, 07:25 PM
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my old BT-D43 maxed at 255mhz@3-4-4-8 2.85Vdimm wif a P4 2.4C running dual channel..but wif a 3.0E,can only do the same speed/timing/vdimm on single channel..dual channel is only stable at 245mhz..sheesh
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Jun 28 2005, 01:42 PM
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*update~*
still testing, wish can go more than that .. b.JPG) This post has been edited by ahpaul82: Jun 28 2005, 01:43 PM |
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Jul 2 2005, 04:40 PM
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wanna ask how maximum fsb can be pushed for hynix dt-d43?...
mine can only pushed to only to fsb 250 2.5-4-4-7 vdimm at 2.83v...higher than already unstable lor... |
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Jul 8 2005, 01:51 AM
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ahpaul82, do u put ur sandra benchmark at the ram benchmark collection there?
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Jul 9 2005, 08:57 AM
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do BT-D43 need active cooling in order for it to clock higher speed?
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Jul 9 2005, 12:15 PM
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bought another 512mbx2 KVR DT-D43 at MyPC last few days..
currently burning in at 2-2-2 @ 200mhz @ 2.7 vdimm |
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Jul 9 2005, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(dinster @ Jul 9 2005, 12:15 PM) bought another 512mbx2 KVR DT-D43 at MyPC last few days.. hearing that wanna my make tangan gatal to do the same lor...huhu...btw...have u try maximum fsb this dt-d43 can go with 2-2-2 @ 200mhz on dfi mobo? how much?currently burning in at 2-2-2 @ 200mhz @ 2.7 vdimm |
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Jul 9 2005, 11:21 PM
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more test results..
11-2-2-2 @ 200 mhz @ 2.7 vdimm Memtest - Test 5 = Stable 3 Hours 2.8 - 3.0 vdimm = Memtest Error |
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QUOTE(dinster @ Jul 9 2005, 11:21 PM) more test results.. wh.. how come lower vdim is stable, and higher vdimm is not? i tot it's the other way round? 11-2-2-2 @ 200 mhz @ 2.7 vdimm Memtest - Test 5 = Stable 3 Hours 2.8 - 3.0 vdimm = Memtest Error currently using bt-d43 2x512 @ 245mhz @ 2.9v. still got minor artifacts when playing 3d games (100% confirm not fm video card) |
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Jul 9 2005, 11:31 PM
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my DT-D43 doesnt like voltage..
as simple as that.. |
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Jul 9 2005, 11:34 PM
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oh... never thouthg of that. usualyy it's the other way round. carnk up the juice and they'll run like hell
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Jul 10 2005, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(shift2 @ Jul 8 2005, 01:51 AM) ahpaul82, do u put ur sandra benchmark at the ram benchmark collection there? nope, even the DT-D43 can clock high, but it got very low point in sandra memory bandwidth benchmark, the bandwidth efficiency only 8x% .. i wonder why ... all testing running 1:1 ratio. To dinster : good result there ! keep on going ! |
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Jul 10 2005, 03:17 AM
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may i ask..the ram timing 2-2-2 11 ....wat is the function for last timing, mean the 11...
ya m b43 oso scored 83% efficiancy nia...compared 2 my fren's bh5 twinX got 9x% ... |
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Jul 10 2005, 12:01 PM
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Hynix RAM does not go quite well with nForce4 platform
it will fly on Intel or nForce2. |
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Jul 10 2005, 05:32 PM
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my dt can only fly 250 fsb 2.5-3-3-7 on dfi ultra-d..huhuhu...by prime kong after 3 hours...uhuk uhuk..
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Jul 11 2005, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 10 2005, 12:01 PM) Hynix RAM does not go quite well with nForce4 platform disagree..it will fly on Intel or nForce2. lots of people with NF4 + D43 combination have good OC.. ahpaul82, moderno, etc etc |
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huhu now burning at fsb 253 2.5-3-3-7 1:1 1T...um nyum nyum....
just follow ahpaul setting.... btw?...is there any real performance differences between running divider and not?...i just checked my everest result : 270 / 243 : 2.43Ghz (9/10 divider) 2.5-3-3-7, vcore 1.58 --> memory write : 6889 and 253 : 2.277 Ghz (1:1 no divider) 2.5-3-3-7, vcore 1.4 --> memory write :6448 didn't try other benchmark yet... so what do u guys says?....which setting should i stick to ek? ...using 180mhz + divider 9/10 or 200mhz no divider?... This post has been edited by moderno: Jul 11 2005, 10:46 AM |
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Jul 11 2005, 12:02 PM
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How come my D43 512MBx4 cannot even reached 221Mhz at 2.5-3-3-7 2.7V ?
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Jul 11 2005, 01:14 PM
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four sticks of ram, u need MORE vdimm.
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Jul 11 2005, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 11 2005, 01:14 PM) four sticks of ram, u need MORE vdimm. vdimm ? The RAM specification is 2.60V.PSU has been upgraded to Enermax 470W. |
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Jul 11 2005, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(thamch @ Jul 11 2005, 02:15 PM) vdimm ? The RAM specification is 2.60V. make it to 2.8-2.9....make some heatsink to ur ram...n u wil go higher PSU has been upgraded to Enermax 470W. |
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Jul 11 2005, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Jul 11 2005, 03:01 PM) make it to 2.8-2.9....make some heatsink to ur ram...n u wil go higher Guys, need to know your RAM reached 250fsb. Do you actually attached any heatsink to it ?I suspect it cannot clock higher is due to the RAM is running 2T (when 4 sticks) and not so overclockable when it used 4pcs. Anybody here is running 4 sticks of RAM and is able to clock more than 220Mhz ? |
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Jul 11 2005, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(thamch @ Jul 11 2005, 02:15 PM) vdimm ? The RAM specification is 2.60V. I know. The RAM specification was originally 2.5 V from DDR200 till 333.PSU has been upgraded to Enermax 470W. Why isit that DDR400 needs 0.1V more? For stability purpose, since RAM behaves like capacitors. |
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Jul 11 2005, 10:26 PM
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i think ram chip wasn't that hot.......i always put my vdimm on 2.9v......
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Jul 11 2005, 10:58 PM
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priming two sticks of BT-D43s at ddr520 2.5-4-3-5 1T @ 2.85V
will try to see how long it will last. This post has been edited by x800: Jul 21 2005, 05:06 PM |
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Jul 11 2005, 11:03 PM
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so means BT-D43 can OC more???
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Jul 11 2005, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE([W]HIT3_@NG3L @ Jul 12 2005, 12:03 AM) so means BT-D43 can OC more??? not really.... depends on da chip ... some DT maybe better and some not... it's all on ur lucks |
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Jul 12 2005, 12:18 AM
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Just test my dt-d43...only limit at 253 2.5-3-3-7 1T at 2.83 vdimm.....
using divider on rams do affect the overall performance or not? |
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Jul 12 2005, 12:37 AM
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hurm,i think i am a bit lucky with these rams.my old 512x2 bt-d43 only do 250 3-4-4-8 2T..
*update* i restarted prime.my rams did the same speed n timing after 7 hours 30 minutes  This post has been edited by x800: Jul 21 2005, 05:11 PM |
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Jul 12 2005, 03:16 PM
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lol! My Kingston Brand Hynix Chipset DT-D43 that I buy it from Singapore Bugis Sim Lim Square already 2 week, but I test it only can overclock to 237.8Mhz(DDR475) with CL 3-3-3-7~~~ What happen going on? Many people say that Hynix DT-D43 at least can up to 250Mhz(DDR500) with CL 3-4-4-8~~~
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Jul 12 2005, 07:30 PM
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x-3-3-x and x-4-4-x got difference wan, the x-4-4-x one gets higher fsb
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Jul 13 2005, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 12 2005, 07:30 PM) x-3-3-x and x-4-4-x got difference wan, the x-4-4-x one gets higher fsb hurmm nice info... ..loosing the timing summore....how much overall differences fsb can go by changing to x-4-4-x?....is it good to reach high fsb with loose timing or so-so fsb with thight timing?...anybody care to answear.. |
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Jul 13 2005, 11:13 PM
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lol, My DT-D43 set 3-4-4-8 @ 2.8v 250Mhz(DDR500) langsung can't access Windows! @.@ When access Windows, PC will automatic restart...
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Jul 13 2005, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(Jian_yi @ Jul 13 2005, 11:13 PM) lol, My DT-D43 set 3-4-4-8 @ 2.8v 250Mhz(DDR500) langsung can't access Windows! @.@ When access Windows, PC will automatic restart... hurm..D43 can do DDR 500 @ x-4-4-3 quite easily.. sthing wrong with the bios setting maybe ? |
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Jul 13 2005, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(moderno @ Jul 13 2005, 09:28 AM) hurmm nice info... Depends on the amount of increased fsb u can get with x44x compared to x33x. Usually x33x's fsb and timings are optimal ..loosing the timing summore....how much overall differences fsb can go by changing to x-4-4-x?....is it good to reach high fsb with loose timing or so-so fsb with thight timing?...anybody care to answear.. |
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Jul 14 2005, 01:46 AM
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i think i'm gonna stick with 2.5-3-3-7 setting with 270 fsb (divider 9/10) with the ram on 243mhz....
got overall good scores using everest home on this one setting... can go to 281 fsb with the divider (ram 253mhz) but my winnie need more vcore to feed on...below that 1.71v oledi unstable.. This post has been edited by moderno: Jul 14 2005, 01:46 AM |
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Jul 15 2005, 04:21 PM
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Limit only at 290Mhz but no stable, so I down to 285Mhz, DT-D43 run at 233.6Mhz (DDR467) @ 3-4-4-8 @ 2T @ 2.8v
See Pinture...  |
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Jul 15 2005, 10:38 PM
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Just to say, those looking for DT-D43s don't search for Kingston KVR. They're now using PTC or something like that. Try Apacer. All the modules from Apacer in Cycom were Hynix DT-D43s, not one Kingston had it though.
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Jul 30 2005, 04:06 AM
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jul 30 2005, 12:26 AM) apacer how much now? Please refrain from asking about prices. You may get better answer here:http://www.lowyat.net/v2/ or here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=7 |
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Aug 2 2005, 08:26 AM
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using 512MB CT D43 and 512MB BT D43 on my NF2 platform...NF7-S BIOS merlin 27...cant go pass 210FSB..timing 2.5-3-3-11
Vcore=1.79V vdimm =2.8V vdd=1.7V NF2 really dun like double sided chip |
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Aug 2 2005, 08:29 AM
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i cannot find kingston wit Hynix DT-D43 chip oredi
its using different chip now |
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Aug 2 2005, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(Monkey King @ Aug 2 2005, 08:26 AM) using 512MB CT D43 and 512MB BT D43 on my NF2 platform...NF7-S BIOS merlin 27...cant go pass 210FSB..timing 2.5-3-3-11 Correction...double sided and dual channel. If single channel not much difficulty. Mine I was fortunate to have a good stick of BT-D43's that can push 250Mhz at 2.8v 2.5/3/3/11 timingsVcore=1.79V vdimm =2.8V vdd=1.7V NF2 really dun like double sided chip 
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Aug 2 2005, 11:34 AM
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 my KVR....nice....miss em though... |
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Aug 2 2005, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(Monkey King @ Aug 2 2005, 08:26 AM) using 512MB CT D43 and 512MB BT D43 on my NF2 platform...NF7-S BIOS merlin 27...cant go pass 210FSB..timing 2.5-3-3-11 the best i could do is 200mhz 2-2-2-11 on nf2, the ram owned by my fren zamree7Vcore=1.79V vdimm =2.8V vdd=1.7V NF2 really dun like double sided chip the test bed is Asus a7n8x-e deluxe. 512mbx2 DT-D43 QUOTE([W]HIT3_@NG3L @ Aug 2 2005, 08:29 AM) i cannot find kingston wit Hynix DT-D43 chip oredi yep the one using dtd43 is for short period oni. lucky me get 1 pair of it.its using different chip now |
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Aug 2 2005, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Aug 2 2005, 11:43 AM) the best i could do is 200mhz 2-2-2-11 on nf2, the ram owned by my fren zamree7 hehe...now it's flying on my nf4 ultra 243fsb at 2.5-3-3-7..... the test bed is Asus a7n8x-e deluxe. 512mbx2 DT-D43 yep the one using dtd43 is for short period oni. lucky me get 1 pair of it. the highest can go is 259fsb 3-3-3-7.. |
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Aug 2 2005, 12:52 PM
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Wait, wait, wait. NF2 does NOT like dual channel AND double sided?
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Aug 2 2005, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(Dead__Man @ Aug 2 2005, 12:52 PM) Wait, wait, wait. NF2 does NOT like dual channel AND double sided? What I mean was both using double sided chips and also using dual channels. Not saying that both situations are bad for nF2. Hope that clears things up when it comes to OC'ing the slowly being pushed back platform |
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Aug 3 2005, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Aug 2 2005, 03:25 PM) What I mean was both using double sided chips and also using dual channels. Not saying that both situations are bad for nF2. Hope that clears things up when it comes to OC'ing the slowly being pushed back platform really? |
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Aug 3 2005, 11:30 PM
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Try doing it to the new UTT BH5's. Then you'll understand why. You'd be sweating bricks trying to pull decent speeds beyond PC3200
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Aug 4 2005, 10:58 AM
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i just bought 2x 1gb patriot pc3200 with hynix bt d43 chipset... just testing running it at 237 fsb so far no problem.. hopefully can reach 250fsb.. hehe
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Aug 4 2005, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Aug 2 2005, 11:34 AM) my KVR....nice....miss em though... |
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Aug 4 2005, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Aug 4 2005, 11:51 AM) I think u posted the wrong screenie? It's running below 200Mhz, nothing's great there or am I wrong? its the high fsb i'm showing...not the ram speed.... |
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Aug 4 2005, 01:49 PM
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tried pushing my dt's to 300fsb with the divider 5/6 @250Mhz...but oledi cannot boot up into windows...uhuk uhuk...
btw...how much vcore u fed on the procs to make it boot into windows bro antonio? |
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Aug 4 2005, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(moderno @ Aug 4 2005, 01:49 PM) tried pushing my dt's to 300fsb with the divider 5/6 @250Mhz...but oledi cannot boot up into windows...uhuk uhuk... hihihihi....rahsia la adik moderno....free stacker II then i trade wif the tips and tricks....hehehehe..... btw...how much vcore u fed on the procs to make it boot into windows bro antonio? |
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Aug 4 2005, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Aug 4 2005, 02:36 PM) hihihihi....rahsia la adik moderno....free stacker II then i trade wif the tips and tricks....hehehehe..... weh...ko sebaya ngan aku la....hahahah but if u've setting that can make it 2.7Ghz stable on winnie...hehe...can trade it with the stacker II....FOC summore.... ...hahaha |
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Aug 4 2005, 06:13 PM
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It's true that nForce2 dislikes double sided chip && dual channel like what almostthere said, well at least for me too. I have 2 double sided DDR400 DT-D43 and i can't run them at 200FSB on my ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe on dual channel, default timings. I might be able to obtain better FSB if i were to not run them in dual channel mode but the thing is, i can't find a way to disable it.
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Aug 5 2005, 02:16 AM
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QUOTE(khelben @ Aug 4 2005, 06:13 PM) It's true that nForce2 dislikes double sided chip && dual channel like what almostthere said, well at least for me too. I have 2 double sided DDR400 DT-D43 and i can't run them at 200FSB on my ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe on dual channel, default timings. I might be able to obtain better FSB if i were to not run them in dual channel mode but the thing is, i can't find a way to disable it. Yup, it's a well known fact that nForce2 motherboard "dislikes" 512modules which has 16chips(double sided) to run on dual channel. |
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Aug 5 2005, 02:42 AM
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Aug 5 2005, 02:16 AM) Yup, it's a well known fact that nForce2 motherboard "dislikes" 512modules which has 16chips(double sided) to run on dual channel. not in may case!see my sig can go up to 230 fsb but high temp 60+ keep hold me down at 220 only(tem max 57) BTW: my dream is,,,,,,,, a very damn cool country! DAMN COOL ONE This post has been edited by Mr_47: Aug 5 2005, 02:43 AM |
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Aug 6 2005, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Aug 5 2005, 02:42 AM) not in may case! 230mhz is nothing especially if running in 2T mode, nForce2 usually still tolerates double sided RAM up to 240mhzsee my sig can go up to 230 fsb but high temp 60+ keep hold me down at 220 only(tem max 57) BTW: my dream is,,,,,,,, a very damn cool country! DAMN COOL ONE u're running 1T or 2T? with 2T you can go up to 245mhz easily This post has been edited by soulfly: Aug 6 2005, 05:27 PM |
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Aug 6 2005, 06:55 PM
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just back from Penang PC fair.
i saw lotsa KVR come with DT D43 chips. |
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Aug 6 2005, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 6 2005, 05:25 PM) 230mhz is nothing especially if running in 2T mode, nForce2 usually still tolerates double sided RAM up to 240mhz 2t la bro.,,,,,,,,, wah! D43 chips still rulez! u're running 1T or 2T? with 2T you can go up to 245mhz easily BTW: damn heat is my enemy. This post has been edited by Mr_47: Aug 6 2005, 09:09 PM |
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Aug 6 2005, 09:48 PM
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updates on my 2x256 BT-D43s, i ran memtest at 258fsb,dual channel,2.5-4-3-5 1T,2.85v, and it was stable even after i left it bout 6+ hours overnight
tried 259fsb, but errors started to show up after about 1 n a half hours |
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Aug 6 2005, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(x800 @ Aug 6 2005, 09:48 PM) updates on my 2x256 BT-D43s, i ran memtest at 258fsb,dual channel,2.5-4-3-5 1T,2.85v, and it was stable even after i left it bout 6+ hours overnight what psu did u use bro? tried 259fsb, but errors started to show up after about 1 n a half hours BTW how safe to use 1T in my system as my sig? This post has been edited by Mr_47: Aug 6 2005, 10:23 PM |
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Aug 7 2005, 01:41 AM
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i have 2 x 512mb DT-D43. running at dual channel on DFI UI.
the problem is i can't even pass prime blend test on 200FSB , but when i check on memtest it's ok. what's the prob here. |
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Aug 7 2005, 02:16 AM
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QUOTE(kazeee @ Aug 7 2005, 01:41 AM) i have 2 x 512mb DT-D43. running at dual channel on DFI UI. did u update the software itself?the problem is i can't even pass prime blend test on 200FSB , but when i check on memtest it's ok. what's the prob here. |
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Aug 7 2005, 02:17 AM
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2T or 1T? For nF2 with double-sided D43, it must run at 2T. This post has been edited by davidletterboyz: Aug 7 2005, 02:17 AM |
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Aug 7 2005, 04:32 AM
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QUOTE(Motorbaby @ Aug 7 2005, 02:16 AM) did u update the software itself? what software to update? |
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Aug 7 2005, 04:33 AM
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Aug 7 2005, 02:17 AM) ^^ i think mine is running at 1T.2T or 1T? For nF2 with double-sided D43, it must run at 2T. using DFI UI didn't mod the bios b4. any good bios to recomend? This post has been edited by kazeee: Aug 7 2005, 04:58 AM |
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Aug 7 2005, 07:09 AM
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using 2 x 256MB bt d43 again...but this time both ram are different in production date.... yr 04 week 30 and 04 week 31...hopefully can pass the FSB230 barrier with my NF7-S...
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Aug 7 2005, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 6 2005, 05:25 PM) 230mhz is nothing especially if running in 2T mode, nForce2 usually still tolerates double sided RAM up to 240mhz yup.. i agree.. u're running 1T or 2T? with 2T you can go up to 245mhz easily D43 with a good bios ( of coz pair with good nf2 board) will easily hit around 240 fsb usin 1T or 250~260+ fsb usin 2T... |
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Aug 15 2005, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(Xeon7222 @ Aug 14 2005, 11:27 AM) can i use a ddr400 on my motherboard which support up to ddr333 only? my motherboard chipset is sis 661fx. yup...can no problem...ur ddr400 will be running ddr333 instead...it'll auto switch to that ram speed there according to ur mobo... |
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Aug 16 2005, 09:44 AM
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iam using bt-d43 now but when i use a pair (512x2) my mem score drop down is it normal?? current setting 2.5-4-3-7 2.8 1T this is the stable setting for my system i already use 2.5-4-4-11 1T but got error on memtest
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Aug 18 2005, 12:47 AM
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samsung tccc or hynix dt-d43?
ll buy it 2morrow. plz reply ASAP. thx. |
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Aug 18 2005, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(Xeon7222 @ Aug 18 2005, 12:47 AM) samsung tccc or hynix dt-d43? what mobo u're using bro?...if DFI...u better go for tccc lohh.. ll buy it 2morrow. plz reply ASAP. thx. |
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Aug 18 2005, 01:07 AM
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i would go for dtd43 instead if u can find one...
but if u go to lyp maybe tccc is available. |
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Aug 18 2005, 01:11 AM
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moderno,
if abit, dt-d43 or tccc? rzonealley, u mean tccc is better? both tccc n dt-d43 r available. |
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Aug 18 2005, 01:21 AM
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rzonealley test my ram on abit can go 264htt 3-4-4-8 i thinkk..please correct me if i'm wrong wan....hehe...
tested on my dfi can go 260 3-4-4-8 oni...but windows cannot boot oledi...currently runnung at 243htt 2.5-3-3-7... i think if using abit..DT's are much value choice there... |
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Aug 18 2005, 02:23 AM
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ok, i ll get a pair of dt-d43 2morrow.
thx moderno. thx rzonealley. |
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Aug 18 2005, 02:52 AM
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QUOTE(Xeon7222 @ Aug 18 2005, 02:23 AM) ok, i ll get a pair of dt-d43 2morrow. good luck in finding them thx moderno. thx rzonealley. |
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Aug 18 2005, 03:21 AM
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Try Apacer. Lots of em are DT-D43s. (how many times have I repeated this? lol)
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Aug 18 2005, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(moderno @ Aug 18 2005, 01:21 AM) rzonealley test my ram on abit can go 264htt 3-4-4-8 i thinkk..please correct me if i'm wrong wan....hehe... u should try on msi neo2 nf3.tested on my dfi can go 260 3-4-4-8 oni...but windows cannot boot oledi...currently runnung at 243htt 2.5-3-3-7... i think if using abit..DT's are much value choice there... i've try those ram at yours can go up to 27+mhz QUOTE(kucingfight @ Aug 18 2005, 02:52 AM) good luck in finding them i know 1 place u still can find them but have to ask try mypc. QUOTE(Dead__Man @ Aug 18 2005, 03:21 AM) Try Apacer. Lots of em are DT-D43s. (how many times have I repeated this? lol) yep lots of them dtd43 even i got few of them in my cc. |
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Aug 18 2005, 11:17 PM
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i bought my dt-d43 ledi.
but its 3-4-4-8 (apacer) should get a corsair vs (2.5-3-3-8)... is it(3-4-4-8) very slow? cant see my ram timing with cpuz. how? This post has been edited by Xeon7222: Aug 18 2005, 11:38 PM |
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QUOTE(Xeon7222 @ Aug 18 2005, 11:17 PM) i bought my dt-d43 ledi. Default timing for Kingston Value RAM is 3-3-3-8 ma but its 3-4-4-8 (apacer) should get a corsair vs (2.5-3-3-8)... is it(3-4-4-8) very slow? cant see my ram timing with cpuz. how? so nothing wrong there. anyway, i saw 2.5-3-3-8 Kingston Value RAM b4. Hynix chipset can easily do CL2.5, If you are lucky enough can do CL2.0 too. you can download lastest CPU-Z and see can detect correct your RAM timing or not. |
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Aug 19 2005, 10:42 AM
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was able to do 255 @ 2.5-3-3-8 @ 2.8v
on 253 @ 2.5-3-3-8 got pic... by the way anyone interested planning on selling them its new also..... |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:46 AM
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just a question here.
I have 2 sticks 512mb BT-D43 with me. I tried to raise the fsb to around 230 with 8-3-3-3 (SPD) and I get error in SP2004 ram stressing. Since I don't really care about timing, I just raise it to 8-4-4-3 and now the ram is stable in 250fsb even after 12 hours SP2004 + Folding. My question is like ahpaul82 said, Hynix really can easily do CL2? I thought BT-D43 mean for very loose timing but super high fsb? |
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Aug 19 2005, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Aug 19 2005, 10:07 AM) Default timing for Kingston Value RAM is 3-3-3-8 ma latest cpuz also cant detect my ram timing. so nothing wrong there. anyway, i saw 2.5-3-3-8 Kingston Value RAM b4. Hynix chipset can easily do CL2.5, If you are lucky enough can do CL2.0 too. you can download lastest CPU-Z and see can detect correct your RAM timing or not. any other program? my dt-d43(apacer) SPD is 3-4-4-8. but SiSoftware Sandra and everst show tat is 3-4-4-( 5 ). i did set my ram timing from 3-4-4-8 to 2.5-3-3-7 n also 2.5-3-3-6 in bios. it show tat is 2.5-3-3-( 5 ). y? now trying to to cl2. |
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Aug 19 2005, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(Xeon7222 @ Aug 19 2005, 03:16 PM) latest cpuz also cant detect my ram timing. as long as it is running stable on that tight timing ok laa... any other program? my dt-d43(apacer) SPD is 3-4-4-8. but SiSoftware Sandra and everst show tat is 3-4-4-( 5 ). i did set my ram timing from 3-4-4-8 to 2.5-3-3-7 n also 2.5-3-3-6 in bios. it show tat is 2.5-3-3-( 5 ). y? now trying to to cl2. |
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Aug 19 2005, 03:53 PM
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cl2... cant boot ler...
but then now i set it to 2.5-3-3-6. running stable n finally sandra show 2.5-3-3-6, but everest still the same(2.5-3-3-5). cpuz cant show my ram timing ler... can any1 help me. Edited: dt-d43 rock!!! This post has been edited by Xeon7222: Aug 19 2005, 03:56 PM |
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Aug 19 2005, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(Xeon7222 @ Aug 19 2005, 03:53 PM) cl2... cant boot ler... at what speed and voltage xeon?... but then now i set it to 2.5-3-3-6. running stable n finally sandra show 2.5-3-3-6, but everest still the same(2.5-3-3-5). cpuz cant show my ram timing ler... can any1 help me. Edited: dt-d43 rock!!! This post has been edited by CHICANOS: Aug 19 2005, 04:10 PM |
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Aug 19 2005, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(Xeon7222 @ Aug 19 2005, 03:53 PM) cl2... cant boot ler... try put it on nf2 base if u lucky enuff u will see miracle at 2-2-2-x but then now i set it to 2.5-3-3-6. running stable n finally sandra show 2.5-3-3-6, but everest still the same(2.5-3-3-5). cpuz cant show my ram timing ler... can any1 help me. Edited: dt-d43 rock!!! around 200fsb with dtd43 moderno can confirm this. usually i dont care bout the end number for the timing. the most importang is 3 first number. |
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Aug 19 2005, 06:09 PM
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Wow... you guys are seriously lucky with your RAMs. My pair could only do 245 MHz 2.5-4-3-11 on dual channel.
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Aug 19 2005, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Aug 19 2005, 06:09 PM) Wow... you guys are seriously lucky with your RAMs. My pair could only do 245 MHz 2.5-4-3-11 on dual channel. burn it in at stock clock and tight timing with high volt.that should do |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Aug 19 2005, 04:31 PM) try put it on nf2 base if u lucky enuff u will see miracle at 2-2-2-x the previous owner of my ram burn this DT's so cantekly... oso with rzonealley burning it sometimes with his neo2 platinum... around 200fsb with dtd43 moderno can confirm this. usually i dont care bout the end number for the timing. the most importang is 3 first number. my dt's on zamree7 nf2 (previous owner) can go 2-2-2-x 200fsb....haven't tried on my DFI yet... |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:08 PM
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My Kingston 2 x 512MB DDR400 (Hynix DT-D43)
able to do 2-2-3-11 DDR400, 1T up to 208MHz or 210MHz only i think.. can't realy remember. 2-2-2-x DDR400 in 2T  to allenultra : actualy all depand on L.U.C.K |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(moderno @ Aug 19 2005, 11:03 PM) the previous owner of my ram burn this DT's so cantekly... oso with rzonealley burning it sometimes with his neo2 platinum... on 1T or 2T?...what volt?... my dt's on zamree7 nf2 (previous owner) can go 2-2-2-x 200fsb....haven't tried on my DFI yet... |
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Aug 20 2005, 01:52 AM
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cannot remember la bro...but i think does not surpass 2.9v lidat... have to ask zamree7 there...
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Aug 20 2005, 02:34 AM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Aug 19 2005, 07:07 PM) burn it in at stock clock and tight timing with high volt. yeah... my dt-d43 after burn can do 2.5-3-3-5 @ 1t 250mhz ( can boot but not stable). curently using 3-3-3-5 @2t 260mhz and playing games without a prob. that should do |
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Aug 20 2005, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(CHICANOS @ Aug 19 2005, 11:39 PM) on 1T or 2T?...what volt?... same result as ahpaul there.2T = 2-2-2-11 @200mhz, 2.8v on nf2(asus) 1T = 2-2-3-11 @200mhz, 2.8v on nf2(asus) 1T = 2.5-3-3-7 @264mhz, 2.8v on nf3(msi) 2T = 3-4-4-10 @272mhz, 2.8v on nf3(msi) bootable 277mhz.  |
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Aug 20 2005, 10:44 PM
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on DFI this ram max at 256fsb oni....arrghh...why DFI hate hynix????
wan...that previous reading above zamree7/my ram ka?...or urs? |
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Aug 20 2005, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(moderno @ Aug 20 2005, 10:44 PM) on DFI this ram max at 256fsb oni....arrghh...why DFI hate hynix???? haha dun be surprise the gem is in ur hand bro.wan...that previous reading above zamree7/my ram ka?...or urs? mine so far can do 264 easily. more burning in. coz that ram at urs got proper burn from me. should say thank to my ai7 n msi though. that printscreen is on msi neo2 plat. |
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Aug 21 2005, 01:17 AM
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hehe... already figured that out....hehe...nice burning u got for this ram...thanks man
btw....why in memtest86+ this ram can go 260fsb 2.5-3-3-7 2 hours no error...but still cannot boot into windows lorr..... using multiplier x8...hurm..the highest can boot into windows is at 256fsb only.... wanna try doing some test at 275 3-4-4-8 1T on my ultra-d tonight.... |
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Aug 21 2005, 04:53 PM
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oledi tried 2-2-2-5 1T 200fsb last night....but cannot boot into windows lorr....got error message summore after the post screen....uhuk uhuk...
my dfi do lock the true potential of my ram....uwa uwa.. |
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Aug 21 2005, 06:06 PM
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hynix does not do 2-2-2 ler... everybody knows that
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Aug 21 2005, 06:15 PM
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ho'oh betulla soulfly...huhu silly me... should test 2-2-3-11 1T instead...haha silly me..
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Aug 21 2005, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 21 2005, 06:06 PM) hynix does not do 2-2-2 ler... everybody knows that on 1T only...but on 2T can... |
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Aug 21 2005, 10:19 PM
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ehh how to know my ram is hynix
if look at the box ... i can see hyn there is this call it hynix dont ask me why i dont check at ram chip it's bcoz i already put heatspreader and already lock it...hard to open |
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Aug 21 2005, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 21 2005, 06:06 PM) hynix does not do 2-2-2 ler... everybody knows that mine can!only with mantarays xt 2t bios and 2.8v ! 2-2-2-11can boot and runs games like normal,,, but faster. |
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Aug 22 2005, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Aug 21 2005, 10:52 PM) mine can! yep sure can!!!only with mantarays xt 2t bios and 2.8v ! 2-2-2-11can boot and runs games like normal,,, but faster. as lond as u plant the ram on nf2. same thing on asus a7n8x-e deluxe. set it for daily use no problem edit : lond = long. This post has been edited by rzonealley: Aug 22 2005, 03:04 PM |
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Aug 22 2005, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Aug 22 2005, 03:04 PM) yep sure can!!! @ what speed?...as lond as u plant the ram on nf2. same thing on asus a7n8x-e deluxe. set it for daily use no problem edit : lond = long. |
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Aug 22 2005, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Aug 21 2005, 10:52 PM) mine can! no point running 2-2-2-11 at 2T when 2-3-3-11 at 1T gives better bandwidthonly with mantarays xt 2t bios and 2.8v ! 2-2-2-11can boot and runs games like normal,,, but faster. |
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Aug 23 2005, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 22 2005, 05:36 PM) no point running 2-2-2-11 at 2T when 2-3-3-11 at 1T gives better bandwidth can system as my sig use 1Tcoz i heard that doublesided can't use it! |
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Aug 23 2005, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Aug 21 2005, 10:19 PM) ehh how to know my ram is hynix HYN - guaranteed to be hynix - if you bought it new and installed the ram yourselfif look at the box ... i can see hyn there is this call it hynix dont ask me why i dont check at ram chip it's bcoz i already put heatspreader and already lock it...hard to open |
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Aug 23 2005, 01:34 AM
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 23 2005, 01:02 AM) HYN - guaranteed to be hynix - if you bought it new and installed the ram yourself thanx man |
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Aug 23 2005, 12:17 PM
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Anyone can post the stock timing configuration for KVR in A64 Tweaker for me plz ? Just take a screenshot of the a64 tweaker , but in stock lar .
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Aug 23 2005, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(Breaktru @ Aug 23 2005, 12:17 PM) Anyone can post the stock timing configuration for KVR in A64 Tweaker for me plz ? Just take a screenshot of the a64 tweaker , but in stock lar . if ddr400 must be 3-3-3-8 |
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Aug 23 2005, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 23 2005, 01:02 AM) HYN - guaranteed to be hynix - if you bought it new and installed the ram yourself ive seen some box got hyn but relabelled Kingston inside.the physical same like hynix. Overclock oso same like hynix but dunno why it relabelled. |
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Aug 23 2005, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE wanna try doing some test at 275 3-4-4-8 1T on my ultra-d tonight.... hehe .. good ram you got over there if can reach 275Mhz stable. the highest i got for my bt-d43 was at 280Mhz benchable ... but now i can't reach tat speed anymore after i update my bios. sigh. |
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Aug 23 2005, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(shadow_dweller @ Aug 23 2005, 09:43 PM) hehe .. good ram you got over there if can reach 275Mhz stable. huhu...test results failed...still stucks on 259fsb...can boot into windows..but vey unstable liou the highest i got for my bt-d43 was at 280Mhz benchable ... but now i can't reach tat speed anymore after i update my bios. sigh. ..the highest can go stable is at 256fsb.. |
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Aug 24 2005, 01:49 PM
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hehe .. manage to get my ram running 2.5-4-4-10 1T @ 3V
benchable at 282Mhz bootable at 284Mhz on my KVR bt-d43 Genie BIOS Settings: FSB Bus Frequency - 282 AGP Bus Frequency - 67mhz Clock Spread Spectrum - Disabled LDT Downstream Width - Auto LDT Upstream Width - Auto LDT/FSB Frequency - X 3.0 CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio - X 8.0 CPU VID Control - 1.500v CPU VID Special Control - Avove VID * 104% Chip Set Voltage Control - 1.80v AGP Voltage Control - 1.70v DRAM Voltage Control - 3.00v DRAM Configuration Settings: DRAM Frequency Set - 200 Command Per Clock (CPC) - Enable CAS Latency Control (Tcl) - 2.5 RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd) - 04 Bus Clocks Min RAS# active time (Tras) - 10 Bus Clocks Row precharge time (Trp) - 04 Bus Clocks Row Cycle time (Trc) - 10 Bus Clocks Row refresh cyc time (Trfc) - 17 Bus Clocks Row to Row delay (Trrd) - 03 Bus Clocks Write recovery time (Twr) - 03 Bus Clocks Write to Read delay (Twtr) - 02 Bus Clocks Read to Write delay (Trwt) - 03 Bus Clocks Refresh Period (Tref) - 4708 Cycles Write CAS Latency (Twcl) - Auto DQS Skew Control - Decrease Skew DQS Skew Value - 128 DRAM Drive Strength - Level 1 Max Async Latency - 08.0 Nano Seconds Read Preamble Time - 06.0 Nano Seconds IdleCycle Limit - 256 Cycles Dynamic Counter - Disable R/W Queue Bypass - Auto Bypass Max - 07 x 32 Byte Granularity - Disable(8 Bursts) This post has been edited by shadow_dweller: Aug 24 2005, 01:54 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Aug 24 2005, 07:35 PM
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can ur setting can be applied on my nf4?....huhu hynix can got lidat on DFI is like a wet dream lor...haha
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Aug 25 2005, 01:45 AM
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hehe .. no idea at all wheter can it be applied to your nf4. you go to try and then let me know
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Aug 25 2005, 07:54 AM
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hey!... i need u sifus help
which is better? ch-6 or dt-d43? d max timing should b around 250@2.5-3-3-8@2.9V for d43 rite? how bout ch-6? any of u sifus see dis chip around? |
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Sep 4 2005, 03:52 PM
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sifu-sifu, how can i know my dt-d43 temperature?
is it important? ll overclocking(ram) burn my ram? plz help me... This post has been edited by Xeon7222: Sep 4 2005, 04:36 PM |
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Sep 4 2005, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(Xeon7222 @ Sep 4 2005, 03:52 PM) sifu-sifu, how can i know my dt-d43 temperature? temp don't care.is it important? ll overclocking(ram) burn my ram? plz help me... ram is tuff. just oc sky high. and enjoy. no worry. |
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Sep 4 2005, 07:12 PM
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for those of u using Abit NF7 - S rev 2 and BT-D43 's
what bios gives u the Highest mem freq? I've tried D26 manta rays XT and the most i can go is 238 stable at 2.5-3-3-11 @ 2.9 Vcore. 512mb X 2. what bios do u think i should try? thx. |
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Sep 4 2005, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(mhn21 @ Sep 4 2005, 07:12 PM) for those of u using Abit NF7 - S rev 2 and BT-D43 's my system can hold up to 230 fsb(2.5-3-3-11 2.7v) with d26mantarays xt 2t bios and stable .what bios gives u the Highest mem freq? I've tried D26 manta rays XT and the most i can go is 238 stable at 2.5-3-3-11 @ 2.9 Vcore. 512mb X 2. what bios do u think i should try? thx. other great bios for me is 3dfire 2t d27,,, but with d26mantaraysxt 2t i get more 3dmark point(+100) cant go more higher coz tem really killing me.. This post has been edited by Mr_47: Sep 4 2005, 09:31 PM |
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Sep 6 2005, 12:08 AM
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wan to ask, is normally bt-d43 single sided kvr 512mb ddr400 is a crap? only double sided one is a gem?
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Sep 6 2005, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Sep 6 2005, 12:08 AM) wan to ask, is normally bt-d43 single sided kvr 512mb ddr400 is a crap? only double sided one is a gem? i've heard that singlesided better than doubleside.NOTHING IS A CRAP,,,,BT/DT-D43 all rock the world... |
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Sep 6 2005, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(arj @ Mar 23 2005, 08:56 PM) My sticks are crap! On my P4, 240Mhz 3-4-4-8 2.9v hangged after 4 minutes of Memtest. 238Mhz went on for about 30 minutes before I exited Memtest.... arj used to hv single sided 512mb ddr400, but seems it's worse |
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Sep 6 2005, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Sep 6 2005, 12:57 AM) arj used to hv single sided 512mb ddr400, but seems it's worse sometimes bro,,,, sometimes. special case. |
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Sep 6 2005, 03:15 AM
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buying these rams are like goin genting casino.
wont know u come back winner or loser. some might even hit the jackpot! |
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Sep 6 2005, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(yuckfou @ Sep 6 2005, 03:15 AM) buying these rams are like goin genting casino. every pc component aslo like that bro,,, exply the proc.wont know u come back winner or loser. some might even hit the jackpot! |
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Sep 6 2005, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(Xeon7222 @ Sep 4 2005, 03:52 PM) sifu-sifu, how can i know my dt-d43 temperature? suggested an active cooling when using 3v and above.is it important? ll overclocking(ram) burn my ram? plz help me... |
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Sep 6 2005, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(Westley @ Sep 6 2005, 10:32 AM) suggested an active cooling when using 3v and above. use ramsink...and diy rm4 fan. |
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Sep 8 2005, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Sep 6 2005, 12:08 AM) wan to ask, is normally bt-d43 single sided kvr 512mb ddr400 is a crap? only double sided one is a gem? QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Sep 6 2005, 12:50 AM) i've heard that singlesided better than doubleside. NOTHING IS A CRAP,,,,BT/DT-D43 all rock the world... QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Sep 6 2005, 01:21 AM) sometimes bro,,,, sometimes. special case. trust me its a crap when 512mb on single sided.i test many of those. This post has been edited by rzonealley: Sep 8 2005, 07:31 AM |
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Sep 8 2005, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Sep 8 2005, 07:31 AM) trust me its a crap when 512mb on single sided. can do 220mhz oni like arj?i test many of those. |
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Sep 8 2005, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Sep 8 2005, 07:43 AM) can do 220mhz oni like arj? single chanel can do 220. dual channel worse. |
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Sep 8 2005, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Sep 8 2005, 07:31 AM) trust me its a crap when 512mb on single sided. i test many of those. QUOTE(rzonealley @ Sep 8 2005, 10:24 AM) single chanel can do 220. dual channel worse. wa guess i'm lucky sob,,, blindly buy 2 ram with both is d-43 hynix chip and doubleside. |
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Sep 8 2005, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Sep 8 2005, 07:31 AM) trust me its a crap when 512mb on single sided. how come? MYPC staff cakap single sided only can oc for nforce2 mb ler.i test many of those. |
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Sep 9 2005, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Sep 8 2005, 11:41 AM) how come? MYPC staff cakap single sided only can oc for nforce2 mb ler. check many previous pages b4 when i post i test single sided 512.even me among the 1st to get those ram from my pc. if u're planning to oc dun get it. coz how can u OC if one chip running 64mhz rather than double sided ram running 32mhz/chip. looking by those number i can see 32mhz got lotsa room to OC. |
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