Common Kelvin White Balance Settings : 2500K - very strong orange tungsten light 2800K - strong orange tungsten light 3200K - yellowish tungsten light 4500K M6 - flourescent light (most flourescent tubes are green even though our eyes don't see it) 5500K - flash 6500K - daylight (or daylight-balanced flourescent light) 9900K - strong blue stage lighting or evening light
Xenon lighting is rare but that should be between 7000-9000K.
Whenever you enter a new situation that has different WB, just set your Kelvin WB again and test with one shot. You
should be able to do this with practice.
With the Sony A300 and A350, you can use Live View and see the effect of changing Kelvin WB... live!
M = Magenta G = Green 2500K = Blue 9900K = Amber
Take a picture. Supposing the picture is very Green, you need to add the opposite which is Magenta. If the picture is
too Blue you need to go closer to Amber. So if the picture is very blue-green-ish, you will need to go closer to 9900K
M9.
To prevent the built-in flash from appearing in pictures when in wireless flash mode, you can use any of these
methods, or a combination of them:
- use a darker aperture (e.g. F11) - use a lower ISO (e.g. ISO100) - use a shutter speed faster than your flash sync speed so that High Speed Sync is activated (e.g. 1/320th of a
second) - use a piece of exposed, developed negative film in front of your pop-up flash
New APS-C / DT Crop Lenses -------------------------------
Sony 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 DT = RM20xx Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA = RM25xx Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM16xx Sony 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM16xx Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM5xx Sigma 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC HSM Macro = RM30xx
New Full-Frame Lenses ---------------------------
Sony 16mm F2.8 Diagonal Fisheye = RM25xx Sony 20mm F2.8 = RM19xx Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 24-70mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx Sony 24-105mm F3.5-4.5 = RM18xx Sony 28mm F2.8 = RM8xx Sony 35mm F1.4G = RM45xx Sony 50mm F1.4 = RM10xx Sony 50mm F2.8 Macro = RM14xx Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 Macro = RM30xx Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro = RM38xx Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM = RM54xx Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM = RM25xx Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM = RM54xx Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA = RM50xx Sony 100mm F2.8 Macro = RM23xx Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA = RM48xx Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus = RM36xx Sony 500mm F8.0 AF Reflex = RM25xx Sony 300mm F2.8G SSM = RM20xxx Sony 1.4x Teleconverter = RM15xx Sony 2.0x Teleconverter = RM15xx
This post has been edited by amadeo: Oct 4 2009, 12:29 AM
wow... so fast... jz bring my Q to here... wana ask dat how gd is A700...? coz might plan to upgrade from A300... is dis camera able to take gd pics @ low like condition...? since i saw go comment on Nikon D90 for photo quality in all light condition... can a700 on par wif dis camera...?
i think its time for me to get larger storage as my 4Gb MSPD only alow sub 200 pics if i shot RAW+JPG. Im using A300. Between CFIII and MSPD HiSpeed/HD, which has the faster/better write speed? *im leaning to MSPD as my lappy do not have CF reader and i may need to use the usb cable =__= Or any other suggestion that good enough for me to get that my Alpha can fully utilize, and not bottlenecking it. I'll look into something a stepdown if CFIII and MSPD HiSpeed/HG it too much for a300. I'm looking for 8/16Gb as I do cosplay random stalking shoots Budget would be rm500+ and i believe this will be a 1 time buy that will last 2yrs -------
Added on October 3, 2009, 10:26 amamadeo bro, kalau tak silap bro marushin upgraded to a900 already but not in a900 owner list he got it veeery cheeaap
Added on October 3, 2009, 10:28 ammOo bro also upgraded from a200 to a700
This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Oct 3 2009, 10:30 AM
50mm is a standard lens on Films camera. Long long time's ago, it's the kit lens for those expensive films camera.. before zoom lens era? correct me if i m wrong..
50mm is a standard lens on Films camera. Long long time's ago, it's the kit lens for those expensive films camera.. before zoom lens era? correct me if i m wrong..
anione can clear my doubt in dis...? wana ask dat how gd is A700...? coz might plan to upgrade from A300... is a700 able to take gd pics @ low like condition...? since i saw go comment on Nikon D90 for photo quality in all light condition... can a700 on par wif dis camera...?
anione can clear my doubt in dis...? wana ask dat how gd is A700...? coz might plan to upgrade from A300... is a700 able to take gd pics @ low like condition...? since i saw go comment on Nikon D90 for photo quality in all light condition... can a700 on par wif dis camera...?
A700 have better ISO control than A300, that's for sure.. but compared to D90, i'm not pretty sure.. maye not kot
Str33tBoY: hahahhhaa i've seen u post that question 3 times now
A700 is definitely better than A300 in terms of low light.. im not sure if compared to D90, but its of same par as the D300, which in a way is a better body compared to D90, although being much older.
nikons are known for their low light performance, period.
until the new A5xxs are out, the A700's the best aps-c u can get at the moment from Sony
This post has been edited by lwliam: Oct 3 2009, 12:09 PM
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A700 compare to D90, i like A700 DRO more then D90 D-lightning. the A700 photo usually gives a light HDR feel to it. and remember, A700 has build in SSS which mean, all lenses has steady shot, so night shot usually is far better then D90's lenses IS choice.
ooic... not to bash lar... coz many review saying dis... maybe i'm upgrade to a700 instead of d90... coz now surveying... as d90 hav many gd reviews wat...
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D90 have lotsss of good review, during A700 release, Alpha wasnt that popular yet, so review might be limited. and D90 is release about a year after A700, so the tech inside D90 should be superior. but i think D90 still cant come close to A700 in terms of overall.
instead of reading 100 pages of review to get to know what u wan, why not flickR it? u get to see more result out of A700 and D90. that way, u will also learn the skill that can bring the power of the machine out, instead reading all the spec, but still unable to shoot like pro
This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 3 2009, 12:28 PM
D-lighting will usually hogs up your camera's processing speed when its turned on... DRO will do it on the fly, so you don't have to wait for the camera to process the image and lose precious time
Added on October 3, 2009, 12:29 pm
QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 3 2009, 12:25 PM)
D90 have lotsss of good review, during A700 release, Alpha wasnt that popular yet, so review might be limited. and D90 is release about a year after A700, so the tech inside D90 should be superior.
instead of reading 100 pages of review to get to know what u wan, why not flickR it? u get to see more result out of A700 and D90. that way, u might know the skill that can bring the power of the machine out, instead reading all the spec, but still unable to shoot like pro
spec is one thing, it's good to know what you have and what you don't.
i'd rather advice that the buyer test the machines out for himself 1st than to look at other ppl's images.. that way it'll do the camera more justice as over in flickR, you're looking at pros/near-pros/pro-amateurs around the world at work..
at the end of the day, its all about the one behind the viewfinder that makes the most out of the camera.
This post has been edited by lwliam: Oct 3 2009, 12:29 PM
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actually, why not wait for A550? 14mp, 7fps, LiveView(the one missing in A700), Better ISO and DRO (compare to A700)... price? cheaper then A700
Added on October 3, 2009, 12:34 pm
QUOTE(lwliam @ Oct 3 2009, 12:26 PM)
D-lighting will usually hogs up your camera's processing speed when its turned on... DRO will do it on the fly, so you don't have to wait for the camera to process the image and lose precious time
Added on October 3, 2009, 12:29 pm
spec is one thing, it's good to know what you have and what you don't.
i'd rather advice that the buyer test the machines out for himself 1st than to look at other ppl's images.. that way it'll do the camera more justice as over in flickR, you're looking at pros/near-pros/pro-amateurs around the world at work..
at the end of the day, its all about the one behind the viewfinder that makes the most out of the camera.
well, yes, that why i said check out flickr, see how people reach the limit of the machine, said-so, is like having a good D3x but not able to push it, but shoot like D60... flickr helps u to learn composition, as human are like monkey, monkey see, monkey do. hehe also, end of day, u are improving toward to pro skill, so as people always say, best way to learn is to learn from pro
testing the machine even with first 1000 shot wont justify you'll really like it or not in the end of the day, because people only realise how good it is when they jump like how most A300 user misses the LiveView after the A700 jump
some may say how good is D90 how good this that, by looking at how pro pushes the camera limit, u would know which camera justify a limit of your choice. and the common problem with all buyer, the regret factor is reduce.
This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 3 2009, 12:40 PM
actually, why not wait for A550? 14mp, 7fps, LiveView(the one missing in A700), Better ISO and DRO (compare to A700)... price? cheaper then A700
I like how Sony implement the LiveView thing. Other camera makers implementation lag like tortoise compared to Sony's QuickLiveView bunny speed Photogs who use LiveView should try Sony's QuickLiveView and feel what they are missing
actually, why not wait for A550? 14mp, 7fps, LiveView(the one missing in A700), Better ISO and DRO (compare to A700)... price? cheaper then A700
Added on October 3, 2009, 12:34 pm well, yes, that why i said check out flickr, see how people reach the limit of the machine, said-so, is like having a good D3x but not able to push it, but shoot like D60... flickr helps u to learn composition, as human are like monkey, monkey see, monkey do. hehe also, end of day, u are improving toward to pro skill, so as people always say, best way to learn is to learn from pro
testing the machine even with first 1000 shot wont justify you'll really like it or not in the end of the day, because people only realise how good it is when they jump like how most A300 user misses the LiveView after the A700 jump
some may say how good is D90 how good this that, by looking at how pro pushes the camera limit, u would know which camera justify a limit of your choice. and the common problem with all buyer, the regret factor is reduce.
very true.. i must admit, i've learnt a lot from looking at photos from good photogs (consciously and subconsciously). i believe so that the LV will surely be missed, even I've not used a LV cam before feels that i'm missing out a lot not having LV. makes life so much easier at times..
This post has been edited by lwliam: Oct 3 2009, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Oct 3 2009, 12:44 PM)
I like how Sony implement the LiveView thing. Other camera makers implementation lag like tortoise compared to Sony's QuickLiveView bunny speed Photogs who use LiveView should try Sony's QuickLiveView and feel what they are missing
agreed, but then, they will give excuse like, "noone use liveview one laaaa" or "liveview for noobs" hahaha, they really dont know what they missing. but they will shot back at use, why sony dont have video? hahahaha, i say, sony have leading HDvidcam, they dun wan spoil thier own market, and they are pretty cheap too..
and yup LiveView is a major improvement, i primary use it during tripod shot, because i need to cover the OVF eyepiece, else unwanted light may get it from the OVF. landscape, long exposure, staged shot, live view help a lot, and it gives real emulation of the shutterspeed and apperture effect...
agreed, but then, they will give excuse like, "noone use liveview one laaaa" or "liveview for noobs" hahaha, they really dont know what they missing. but they will shot back at use, why sony dont have video? hahahaha, i say, sony have leading HDvidcam, they dun wan spoil thier own market, and they are pretty cheap too.. and yup LiveView is a major improvement, i primary use it during tripod shot, because i need to cover the OVF eyepiece, else unwanted light may get it from the OVF. landscape, long exposure, staged shot, live view help a lot, and it gives real emulation of the shutterspeed and apperture effect...
click on links below for official reports from Sony
Walaoeh so fast V32. (: I've decided to get a VG 1st oh. Then after CNy when collect all those ang paos only get kitlens replacement. (:
yeap...i bought my a700 along with a VG without any hesitation.... coz when u use f58am the grip will work as a tool to balance and allow us to shoot more comfortably....
A550 is bout the size of A350, which makes it smaller than A700 A700 is a rare gem, i doubt u could find any next year or rather from now onwards but possibly A7x0 any series above A2x0 is better in someway imo...
Hi all... im a newbie... just have a minat to buy a DSLR... my budget is very² low... decision is made for A200 seem a reasonable price for me (low budget)
hope can join this group once buy it... btw any shop can be recomend (im from Klang)....
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Oct 3 2009, 01:13 PM)
A550 smaller IINM. (: Next year? No choice but to upgrade a550 lo. a700 will be sooooooooooooooooooo rare.
QUOTE(lwliam @ Oct 3 2009, 01:14 PM)
700 700 700 700 700 700 700 woohoooooooooo~~~
QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Oct 3 2009, 01:15 PM)
a700 bigger a5x0 about the same size as a3x0 grip similar to a3x0 iirc if next year, not sure if you can find new a700
QUOTE(neo_lam @ Oct 3 2009, 01:15 PM)
a700 would be bigger.... next year u should go for a700's successor a7xx....using Exmor R Sensor....
QUOTE(countdracula @ Oct 3 2009, 01:17 PM)
A550 is bout the size of A350, which makes it smaller than A700 A700 is a rare gem, i doubt u could find any next year or rather from now onwards but possibly A7x0 any series above A2x0 is better in someway imo...
Ok, target spotted Anybody who want to sell their A700 just shoot me end of this year. Would give this tiny and small a230 to my gf and share lens if she interested.
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Ok, target spotted Anybody who want to sell their A700 just shoot me end of this year. Would give this tiny and small a230 to my gf and share lens if she interested.
bro..wanna ask u tht crumpler industry disgrace works fine?? wanna change my strap....
Ok, target spotted Anybody who want to sell their A700 just shoot me end of this year. Would give this tiny and small a230 to my gf and share lens if she interested.
wait for da A500 series to hit da street n test for urself. maybe u will like it
Sony's QLV for me is an excellent additional tool alpha camera. Overhead shots like the ones below pose problematic (although not impossible) without the LV as a viewing tool.
(shot using my LG Cookie with my hphone held up high over my head selepas sembahyang sunat Eidil Fitri 2009)
This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Oct 3 2009, 01:41 PM
Walaoeh so fast V32. (: I've decided to get a VG 1st oh. Then after CNy when collect all those ang paos only get kitlens replacement. (:
QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Oct 3 2009, 02:30 PM)
Sigh something happened now I cant get anything else dy. ): Lens or VG all cant. ):
Eh wat happened? first wanna get the VG n wait for angpow for kitlens replacement (Tats very long to go.!) .. skrg apa apa pun cant get liao? i oso feel wanna get the VG... whats the normal rate for the VG? sony center display unit Rm 980 consider ok price or not?
QUOTE(neo_lam @ Oct 3 2009, 01:40 PM)
want this....
Wow.. smthing i like bout sony is they really design their product "like no others" beautiful... but seems a bit "hard" to use ... make me feel wanna spend on "deco" my camera with all these little things.
wow... i see many ppl at least aim for A700 for gd pics... btw... i notice it's quite an old model adi rite...? ani new model can run on par wif dis camera...?
wow... i see many ppl at least aim for A700 for gd pics... btw... i notice it's quite an old model adi rite...? ani new model can run on par wif dis camera...?
wow... i see many ppl at least aim for A700 for gd pics... btw... i notice it's quite an old model adi rite...? ani new model can run on par wif dis camera...?
Gears is not the most important thing... skills matter. If you give me a 1D MkIII, I can still shoot like crap....
clivengu: Provided you do it properly it will give accurate results. However from reading countless threads over forums with people showing their results... I can see that a lot of people are doing the test wrongly.
Also, Google LensAlign...
I could afford the vertical grip but I don't have space in my bag, and it is not going to help if I go street-shooting (which is what I do a lot...)
neo_lam: Cropping #5 would look nice.
nickilala: Interesting moody shot!
Str33tBoY: Yes, the A500/A550/A700/A850/A900 all have much better low-light performance than the A300. You can shoot at ISO1600 comfortably with all these bodies.
Seng_Kiat: Love the first shot, the uncle looks very silver-ish!
hkhk: Film SLRs are not expensive now - RM300 for a auto-focus electronic-shutter one and RM600 for a manual-focus mechanical-shutter one. 50mm lenses were and are the cheaper lenses, as well as the 28mm F2.8 lenses.
Banzai_san: The A500/A550 has a similiar grip to the A100/A200/A300/A350, not the A330/A380.
Hi all... im a newbie... just have a minat to buy a DSLR... my budget is very² low... decision is made for A200 seem a reasonable price for me (low budget)
hope can join this group once buy it... btw any shop can be recomend (im from Klang)....
For you guys who are looking for a A300 and don't mind paying a bit more, Sony Style KLCC still has stock. I don't know how many units but the sales person says they have stock.
I was there Friday evening showing a friend of mine the A330 and then I took him to see a Canon 1000D and then to see a Nikon D5000. So don't blame me for being a fan boy ok?
While he was fiddling with the A330 and the 50mm F1.8, he asked to have a look at the A900 with a 85m CZ lens attached. He said the lens is sharp and then he looked at the price tag - RM9999 (Sony Style mah) and said, "Wah! Expensive!" When I told him that price did not include the lens, his jaws dropped. He's a total noob to DSLR... LOL!
This post has been edited by shootkk: Oct 4 2009, 12:49 AM
a few random shots taken during my niece bday party...sorry about the bad compo..suddent the AF works kinda slow..maybe its dark..lol..and the kids just cant stop moving..
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This post has been edited by achew: Oct 4 2009, 04:05 AM
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i think is because of the DOF, u are not really taking candid potraiture, and the bokeh is over too much, or the sharpening cause the bokeh to look wierd... it looked like plasterised.
*edit: too much typo, too early in the morning on sunday
This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 4 2009, 08:14 AM
Guys, I'm planning to get the 8GB memory stick pro duo MK2 from Sony since I got RM60 voucher. Currently I'm using the normal pro duo with CF adapter... so is this MK2 card as fast as the CF Ultra 3? Please help, thanks.
Guys, I'm planning to get the 8GB memory stick pro duo MK2 from Sony since I got RM60 voucher. Currently I'm using the normal pro duo with CF adapter... so is this MK2 card as fast as the CF Ultra 3? Please help, thanks.
normally CF card would be faster than Memory stick. Sandisk CF Ultra 3= 200x ~ 20MBps, much faster than MSPD 2 (15Mbps) note the MBps n Mbps . Unless u got the HG version ~ 15MBps.
QUOTE(lightning69 @ Oct 4 2009, 10:16 PM)
Sorry for the noob question.
What program do it need to open and edit sony raw file?
Is it free?
can use the SONY Image Data Converter bundled in your CD. U can download the latest online. Or u can use Rawtherapee or Google Picasa. All I mention here is free.
This post has been edited by hkhk: Oct 4 2009, 10:50 PM
achew: For the A850, you could work in Wide Area AF as it uses the extra hidden AF Assist sensors. If you find that it still cannot lock, point at the center and press down on the middle of the joystick to use the center AF point - this will definitely focus.
That said kids are hard to shoot, so don't worry. I would have gone wider on the shots with the kids and cake (and take from above, to get both the kids and cake in almost the same plane of focus.)
Good shot of #1 though, it's often hard to get kids to look at the camera!
I use 90% 0.3 pixels for sharpening fine detail, and 22% 33 pixels for increasing general contrast and pop.
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#1
#2
#3
#4
Hi, nice color... may I know what type of software and setting you use?
QUOTE(hkhk @ Oct 4 2009, 10:46 PM)
normally CF card would be faster than Memory stick. Sandisk CF Ultra 3= 200x ~ 20MBps, much faster than MSPD 2 (15Mbps) note the MBps n Mbps . Unless u got the HG version ~ 15MBps. can use the SONY Image Data Converter bundled in your CD. U can download the latest online. Or u can use Rawtherapee or Google Picasa. All I mention here is free.
Oh... so I think I better use the voucher for other things...
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achew: For the A850, you could work in Wide Area AF as it uses the extra hidden AF Assist sensors. If you find that it still cannot lock, point at the center and press down on the middle of the joystick to use the center AF point - this will definitely focus.
That said kids are hard to shoot, so don't worry. I would have gone wider on the shots with the kids and cake (and take from above, to get both the kids and cake in almost the same plane of focus.)
Good shot of #1 though, it's often hard to get kids to look at the camera!
I use 90% 0.3 pixels for sharpening fine detail, and 22% 33 pixels for increasing general contrast and pop.
if i use "wide"..the camera would try to catch the focus point on the | | at the sides right? im kinda used to the center point as i could exactly tell the camera what i wanna focus..instead of letting it to guess >.< ...so not very sure how does "wide" works..lol
last night it really frustrate me a lil bit...coz the kid just cant stop moving..and i have thousands of hands holding digital camera around me..sometimes when i press the shutter..den i realized..suddently got 1 hand come into the frame..zzz
if i use "wide"..the camera would try to catch the focus point on the | | at the sides right? im kinda used to the center point as i could exactly tell the camera what i wanna focus..instead of letting it to guess >.< ...so not very sure how does "wide" works..lol last night it really frustrate me a lil bit...coz the kid just cant stop moving..and i have thousands of hands holding digital camera around me..sometimes when i press the shutter..den i realized..suddently got 1 hand come into the frame..zzz
hahhahaha, suddenly feel TOO wide for you to handle? HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHHHAA....
isnt that technique style about 80% of what i just did on the above photo? having the light-source from above. u can do it with wireless flash setup, or studio light, or DIY lightning.
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QUOTE(achew @ Oct 5 2009, 12:28 AM)
low key???
go darker place..flash on the face..or use a lamp to light up the face..AEL there n shoot?
AElock dont really do much. if u using flash, the TTL will auto detect. if u use lamp, use liveview to check the amount of light, use spot metering (on the face, local metering will to too), use the EV to adjust the tone u wanted, then the rest is up to photoshop.
AElock dont really do much. if u using flash, the TTL will auto detect. if u use lamp, use liveview to check the amount of light, use spot metering (on the face, local metering will to too), use the EV to adjust the tone u wanted, then the rest is up to photoshop.
usually when i wanna shoot something like that..i would shoot in full manual(exposure n flash)...trail n error 2-3 shots..would get the correct setting eventually..
if we use spot metering..what if the object is not at the center?
photoshop..i normally use to increase the contrast..unless the light source is really bright..else background usually would be quite dark already
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This post has been edited by achew: Oct 5 2009, 01:25 AM
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spot metering will follow ur focus point, unless ur focusing not on ur subject, then u still have live view to figure the exposure out (u cant rely on the metering-bar anymore)
hkhk: photoshop is optional, but the photo lovexoxohug showed the color is edited. u cant shoot that color directly from the camera. instead of trial and error (indirectly, wasting shutter) shot one raw, edit ur heart content out
shooting trial and error is for learning the setup method. but once u get the rough figure, or if u know what to do to shoot, u wont go and shoot 10 picture just to find the right one, post processing is the key
*edit: also, my picture above, shot at iso100, with F5.6, environment is like a bar/pud/cafe... with no post processing, just the framing.
so, let ur imagination run wild, iso100, F5.6 in a pub lightning environment.
This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 5 2009, 01:38 AM
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ohhh, forgotten, i dont have exp with A700 so lack of the knowlegde of it. but if i recall, they have a preshot something, that u can set ur setting after the preshot to see the result of the new setting on the new shoot?
Added on October 5, 2009, 2:14 amopps, wtf am i talking about >.< okay, just let me assume, most new users, are using A2xx,3xx inculding Ax30 series, those who have liveview, and are starters, so LV would be a good option to learn.
those who dont have the luxury of lifeview, 99% that, u guys own a camera that shows u guys are experinced user so... LV make no diff for u guys. hehehehe...
This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 5 2009, 02:15 AM
ohhh, forgotten, i dont have exp with A700 so lack of the knowlegde of it. but if i recall, they have a preshot something, that u can set ur setting after the preshot to see the result of the new setting on the new shoot?
Added on October 5, 2009, 2:14 amopps, wtf am i talking about >.< okay, just let me assume, most new users, are using A2xx,3xx inculding Ax30 series, those who have liveview, and are starters, so LV would be a good option to learn.
those who dont have the luxury of lifeview, 99% that, u guys own a camera that shows u guys are experinced user so... LV make no diff for u guys. hehehehe...
to be frank..i miss my LV alot.....lighting wise i can live without LV..but sometimes framing / focusing in awkward positions really makes me
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dont worry, try to use ur instinct, and train it. here is an instinct shot i hav (wedding job i had yesterday), which LV is erm, unable to use/see.
LV for me, i use it for the mirrorflip to close the OVF when i shot long exposure, i cant stand near it to cover the OVF(may shake it), so if the miror did not close it, unwanted light will go in from OVF.
Added on October 5, 2009, 2:35 am
QUOTE(achew @ Oct 5 2009, 02:18 AM)
to be frank..i miss my LV alot.....lighting wise i can live without LV..but sometimes framing / focusing in awkward positions really makes me
hehehe u are experinced user, u must know the lightning by now i seen ur work in ur flickR, very impressive... me only noob... hehe
This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 5 2009, 02:35 AM
dont worry, try to use ur instinct, and train it. here is an instinct shot i hav (wedding job i had yesterday), which LV is erm, unable to use/see. LV for me, i use it for the mirrorflip to close the OVF when i shot long exposure, i cant stand near it to cover the OVF(may shake it), so if the miror did not close it, unwanted light will go in from OVF.
Added on October 5, 2009, 2:35 am hehehe u are experinced user, u must know the lightning by now i seen ur work in ur flickR, very impressive... me only noob... hehe
Yo ieR .. hahaha.. didnt expect yo see you here.
Today I just got my a330 from Sony Centre , will try out this baby tomorrow ..
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From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
i think the dof is not enough, too shallow, if only u can have new more batang of matches to be clear, except the burned one (let it be bokeh). it brings better msg.
btw... most of d time u all take pics wif auto / preset setting @ d camera...? or fulli manual...?
for me.."usual" shots for portrait / landscape would b on aperture priority(most of the time) / shutter priority..depend on the need...
for macro..or anything else that need me to setup on lighting..i'd use full manual on both my exposure and flash power due to limited equipments/space..lol
achew: In Wide Area AF it will just pick any combination of AF points that work. Try it!
does that mean i should just compose my shot n focus it(wide AF)?(assuming my subject isnt placed at the extreme sides)..coz i usually focus with the center point n recompose..
I find Wide Area AF usually kinda knows what I'd want to focus on. The point of Wide Area AF is that you don't recompose and cause user-induced focusing shift error.
I find Wide Area AF usually kinda knows what I'd want to focus on. The point of Wide Area AF is that you don't recompose and cause user-induced focusing shift error.
i nvr really use wide area AF unless im shooting landscape or group photo with higher F numb. Just now i give it a try on how this Wide Area AF can tell apart wat i may want to focus.. but seems like doesnt really work for me.. usually it just focus ... in between objects... alang alang... could be different style of shooting. or does this has to do with AF between A900 n A700? mayb could be im not using a telelens.. ? till now seem the local AF still works best for me
Let's say we buy 2nd hand Sony Alpha Camera/Lense/Flash and the seller's warranty card is blank and not register at MySony, do we get full 1 year warranty from the date we put on the warranty card ?
Sony CIC based the warranty date on which criteria ? - invoice/receipt date - warranty card date - MySony Registration date
not sure how much is brand new... but 2nd hand should be roughly RM450 can find at alphanatics.com... but, if it was me, I'd get the beercan instead... but that's just me la...
Added on October 5, 2009, 9:48 amwonder what's the spec of the a700 replacement model later... hmmm... and what's the price going to be like...
This post has been edited by Braynumb: Oct 5 2009, 09:49 AM
not sure how much is brand new... but 2nd hand should be roughly RM450 can find at alphanatics.com... but, if it was me, I'd get the beercan instead... but that's just me la...
Added on October 5, 2009, 9:48 amwonder what's the spec of the a700 replacement model later... hmmm... and what's the price going to be like...
Do you have the lens with you now ? Can i test and if no problem . i want to get 1 from you .... Do you have MSCRO lens ? My budget is low ...
clivengu: Wide Area AF works better on the A850/A900 because it has extra AF Assist sensors which the A700 does not have. In good light though, Wide Area AF is very usable on every other Alpha.
Do you have the lens with you now ? Can i test and if no problem . i want to get 1 from you .... Do you have MSCRO lens ? My budget is low ...
hehehe... unfortunately, I'm not a lens seller... don't have that lens... but did try it out last saturday... quite nice and light ler... don't have macro lens too... also saving to buy one... can PM Mo0 lo... he's looking to sell his Sigma 50mm f2.8 MACRO lens...
QUOTE(lildaredevil906 @ Oct 5 2009, 10:07 AM)
if im not mistaken, m0o has the 55-200.. pm him and see =)
Mo0 sold his 55200 already ler... since he has a beercan...
This post has been edited by Braynumb: Oct 5 2009, 10:12 AM
hi guys,..need some help/advices/opinions from u all.. i'm interested in owning dslr soon..been funding around RM2k already.. with that budget, can i get a200 or a300?
any recommended shops/sellers around KL that i can go to? times? midvalley? klcc?
planning to get it before sem break so i can practice it at home with d faster internet to hang in here )
hi guys,..need some help/advices/opinions from u all.. i'm interested in owning dslr soon..been funding around RM2k already.. with that budget, can i get a200 or a300?
any recommended shops/sellers around KL that i can go to? times? midvalley? klcc?
planning to get it before sem break so i can practice it at home with d faster internet to hang in here )
a200 & a300 dah habis stock... opt for the 3x0 or 2x0
its a discontinued stock.. new stock are hard to come by unless u go to hunt for it.. just like the a700.. so rare.. these kinds of cam normally u can get 2nd hand.. start hunting.. hehehe
well the a200 or a300 feels more like a cam.. a230 or a330 grip is so small.. i tried playing with the a330 and it feels like toy.. compared with my a300.. very light... if u got small hands you should be fine with it.. depending what u like actually.. go to the sony centers and try out the entry level cams =)
This post has been edited by lildaredevil906: Oct 5 2009, 10:40 AM
seriously? i raed some review here that a200 n a300 is highly rated more than 2x0 n 3x0...that's why im lookong for it...
all shops are out of stock??
best advice I can give you is to go to camera shops and test out the cameras for yourself. don't just try out Sony Alphas, try other brands as well, you can try the Canon 1000D, Nikon D3000, Olympus E420/E450 (if out already lah...) etc.. etc... test which one feels good in your hands... don't decide based on what other people say... coz they're not the one using YOUR camera... remember, your camera is just your tool... YOU are the artist... so, choose wisely...
Zen-X : Last Friday, Sony Style KLCC sales person says that they still have stock for the A300. The price will be higher is you buy from Sony Style because they only sell at retail price.
You can try your luck there.. who knows.. this is discontinued model and maybe they can offer you some freebies...
Also the A230 and the A330 promotion family package is damn nice! They give you one 50mm f/1.8 plus F20 flash plus one bag for RM699 more only!
This both are the twin lens set.. But people sell at different prices, depending on ur barganing power. you can use this as your rough guide to purchase ur cam.
but like what Braynumb said, dont just listen to me or people in this thread. You can try Canon or Nikon but of course u come to sony thread we say sony is best! =P..
It all really depends on you in the end.. Again quoting Braynumb, you are the one using the cam, not others.
seriously? i raed some review here that a200 n a300 is highly rated more than 2x0 n 3x0...that's why im lookong for it...
all shops are out of stock??
Hehe good luck finding one mate. Its like hunting a very elusive and rare animal. Can start at sony centers that people rarely goes like Subang Parade. That's where i found mine . Forget calling SC lines, They have been trained to say it doesnt exists. Same thing going to other camera shops. I remembered there 's one a350 display unit for sale at JJ OU but other forumers says its better not to get it. Can try your luck at Subang Parade SC as theres two a300 there one is the twin lens kit (which i already grab XD ) and the other one is a single lens kit. Test kaw2 first.
thanks! still learning.. raynox is a macro converter attached to the front of ur tele lens to make in into an budget macro lens.. i'm just shooting around my house
Thank you lehTung..... YOur house so many insects ? Wahlou ..... becareful ....
thanks! still learning.. raynox is a macro converter attached to the front of ur tele lens to make in into an budget macro lens.. i'm just shooting around my house
Anyone willing to have training session for newbie ? How about we organis to Zoo Negara during this weekend ?
Wish I was in KL... hmm... too far for me... to learn tips and tricks from fellow alpanian, you can always join TT (Teh Tarik/Tech Talk) Sessions... you can learn alot from others... ask Mo0... he always know when's the next TT session... hehehe
QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Oct 5 2009, 12:06 PM)
Do you use manual focus or auto focus for it?
depends on what type of macro you're taking... for insects/moving objects, I prefer Auto... but for flowers, I prefer manual... coz then you can choose which details you want to keep in focus...
Wish I was in KL... hmm... too far for me... to learn tips and tricks from fellow alpanian, you can always join TT (Teh Tarik/Tech Talk) Sessions... you can learn alot from others... ask Mo0... he always know when's the next TT session... hehehe
Joined: Jan 2003
From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 5 2009, 09:01 AM)
One question about warranty.
Let's say we buy 2nd hand Sony Alpha Camera/Lense/Flash and the seller's warranty card is blank and not register at MySony, do we get full 1 year warranty from the date we put on the warranty card ?
Sony CIC based the warranty date on which criteria ? - invoice/receipt date - warranty card date - MySony Registration date
hmmm since noone answer this, i will.
if the warranty card is unfilled. here is the tips to workaround to get the warranty working properly.
first of all, sony service centre (SSC) requires u to have an official reciept of the AUTHORISED shop u brought from to be able to send in for warranty service. unauthorised shop usually, u send it back to the shop, the shop to the supplier, and supplier to the backdoor SSC. but if u already register it in sonystyle, ur unit able to go in front door
the date will be refer to your official reciept+filled warranty card and sonystyle registration (make sure it match).
what u need to do to work around it is, (for unfilled and unregister unit, with or without reciept,...) 1. if u dont have the reciept 2. unfilled warranty card. 3. not registered online with sonysytle/mysony. (with all this, u can basically throw away the reciept)
let say ur camera was damange today. 1. go register ur gear in mysony/style. 2. during registration, when there is a column where it ask, where u get ur item from, pick, "GIFT" (so u wont have receipt! yay) 3. pick a buy date, maybe a week before (so u still eligible for the additional +3 month warranty) 4. then wait for a month, (dont send ur camera instantly, they will smell something fishy... wait for a few month) 5. email to sonystyle, they mostly will pass ur mail to ms. ann (sony alpha customer service ) 6. write some bullsh*t how ur camera failed you. and ask how can u do ur warranty without a reciept because u got it as gift 7. they will give u instruction how to send it in for warranty
* i went to SSC in midvalley without any documentation, just the camera, and they still accept in for me
Joined: Jan 2003
From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
a lot ppl still misslead with the Ax00 and Ax30 camera. for new users or going to be Alpha owner. let me enlighten you.
A330 is not any 'worst' then A300, infact, the result/output of A330 is Better then A300! (pls dont compare it with A700 and A900)
the diff is just, the practical-ness of A300 has be alter in A330 that it is not that practical anymore BUT, more then 50% of the A300 user dont use it's MWB, or the quick local AF. so it doesnt really matter to Alpha developer.) but they do give u a better interface~ for easy learning.
BUT, A330, better shutter, better SSS, better DRO, better ISO will give u a upper hand in picture quality. e'nuf said.
thus the conclusion is, A330 is a good camera for a new owner. but it is not an upgrade for existing A300 user.
Can't argue with that tho... Mo0! organize a TT when I go to KL next year! should be in KL on the 13-14(15-16: Cameron, 16-17: Melaka)18-19: KL... hehehe... which date better?? Friday 19th going back to Kuching already ler...
QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Oct 5 2009, 12:35 PM)
And provide sp90
Waaaa.... like that I also want to join ler...
QUOTE(fas29 @ Oct 5 2009, 12:44 PM)
Speaking of Macro , I missed Ryzan
We all do...
Added on October 5, 2009, 12:53 pm
QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 5 2009, 12:47 PM)
a lot ppl still misslead with the Ax00 and Ax30 camera. for new users or going to be Alpha owner. let me enlighten you.
A330 is not any 'worst' then A300, infact, the result/output of A330 is Better then A300! (pls dont compare it with A700 and A900)
the diff is just, the practical-ness of A300 has be alter in A330 that it is not that practical anymore BUT, more then 50% of the A300 user dont use it's MWB, or the quick local AF. so it doesnt really matter to Alpha developer.) but they do give u a better interface~ for easy learning.
BUT, A330, better shutter, better SSS, better DRO, better ISO will give u a upper hand in picture quality. e'nuf said.
thus the conclusion is, A330 is a good camera for a new owner. but it is not an upgrade for existing A300 user.
N the comfort level has been lessened with the smaller grip... unless you have smaller hands than mine
This post has been edited by Braynumb: Oct 5 2009, 12:53 PM
a lot ppl still misslead with the Ax00 and Ax30 camera. for new users or going to be Alpha owner. let me enlighten you.
A330 is not any 'worst' then A300, infact, the result/output of A330 is Better then A300! (pls dont compare it with A700 and A900)
the diff is just, the practical-ness of A300 has be alter in A330 that it is not that practical anymore BUT, more then 50% of the A300 user dont use it's MWB, or the quick local AF. so it doesnt really matter to Alpha developer.) but they do give u a better interface~ for easy learning.
BUT, A330, better shutter, better SSS, better DRO, better ISO will give u a upper hand in picture quality. e'nuf said.
thus the conclusion is, A330 is a good camera for a new owner. but it is not an upgrade for existing A300 user.
I'm glad I got my humble and small camera (a230) compare to my friends who owns D90 but still produce sucks image Thanks to my previous SAL16105
This post has been edited by destfull: Oct 5 2009, 12:57 PM
if the warranty card is unfilled. here is the tips to workaround to get the warranty working properly.
first of all, sony service centre (SSC) requires u to have an official reciept of the AUTHORISED shop u brought from to be able to send in for warranty service. unauthorised shop usually, u send it back to the shop, the shop to the supplier, and supplier to the backdoor SSC. but if u already register it in sonystyle, ur unit able to go in front door
the date will be refer to your official reciept+filled warranty card and sonystyle registration (make sure it match).
what u need to do to work around it is, (for unfilled and unregister unit, with or without reciept,...) 1. if u dont have the reciept 2. unfilled warranty card. 3. not registered online with sonysytle/mysony. (with all this, u can basically throw away the reciept)
let say ur camera was damange today. 1. go register ur gear in mysony/style. 2. during registration, when there is a column where it ask, where u get ur item from, pick, "GIFT" (so u wont have receipt! yay) 3. pick a buy date, maybe a week before (so u still eligible for the additional +3 month warranty) 4. then wait for a month, (dont send ur camera instantly, they will smell something fishy... wait for a few month) 5. email to sonystyle, they mostly will pass ur mail to ms. ann (sony alpha customer service ) 6. write some bullsh*t how ur camera failed you. and ask how can u do ur warranty without a reciept because u got it as gift 7. they will give u instruction how to send it in for warranty * i went to SSC in midvalley without any documentation, just the camera, and they still accept in for me
I like your tip very much :-) Let's hope Ann doesn't read this
a lot ppl still misslead with the Ax00 and Ax30 camera. for new users or going to be Alpha owner. let me enlighten you.
A330 is not any 'worst' then A300, infact, the result/output of A330 is Better then A300! (pls dont compare it with A700 and A900)
the diff is just, the practical-ness of A300 has be alter in A330 that it is not that practical anymore BUT, more then 50% of the A300 user dont use it's MWB, or the quick local AF. so it doesnt really matter to Alpha developer.) but they do give u a better interface~ for easy learning.
BUT, A330, better shutter, better SSS, better DRO, better ISO will give u a upper hand in picture quality. e'nuf said.
thus the conclusion is, A330 is a good camera for a new owner. but it is not an upgrade for existing A300 user.
IMHO its a different segment of market. Whilst A300 are marketed to a noob who wants to learn dslr, A330 are more or less Sony's Prosumer camera. I've owned Lumix LX3 and MWB is a feature that is already built in it. They strip it as soccer moms don't have to go the hassle of setting it up.
Handling wise a300 is far superior than a330. I've contemplated to get a330 due to the rarity of a300 but the grip / the built really screams cost reduction.
I like your tip very much :-) Let's hope Ann doesn't read this
when i went to Sony service center in singapore to calibrate my lens...the lady told me..as long as i register my warranty online..she doesnt need to see my receipt/warranty card..lol
ahhh.. lehtung ur macro shots are getting more powderful!! I think the dof too little.. but thats me la.. =)
That is nice but I too think that the dof is too shallow. That is the classic error most people make when trying to get bokeh....too much of it. Just my opinion.
Anyway, I try out the Sony image converter for raw processing and find it very unfriendly and slow. I prefer Photoshop but not sure if there is any plug in for CS2. Anyone can help?
That is nice but I too think that the dof is too shallow. That is the classic error most people make when trying to get bokeh....too much of it. Just my opinion.
Anyway, I try out the Sony image converter for raw processing and find it very unfriendly and slow. I prefer Photoshop but not sure if there is any plug in for CS2. Anyone can help?
No plugin for CS2 to edit Sony RAW... only in CS3... you can try Gimp 2.26 with UFRaw Plugin...
That is nice but I too think that the dof is too shallow. That is the classic error most people make when trying to get bokeh....too much of it. Just my opinion.
Anyway, I try out the Sony image converter for raw processing and find it very unfriendly and slow. I prefer Photoshop but not sure if there is any plug in for CS2. Anyone can help?
Plug in for PP Cs2 tats gonna be Adobe Raw.. (version 3.5 i think)... im using that .. very effective.. n fast.. Im using it together with Adobe Bridge.. very good in managing the photos n compare photos in 100%...the only bad thing is u cant keep those setting in the camera like Vivid, sharpnest + DR ++ etc etc... I believe the Sony image converter does imbedded these info into the raw file.
but The Sony Image Converter r SLOOWWWWWW... hate it.
Plug in for PP Cs2 tats gonna be Adobe Raw.. (version 3.5 i think)... im using that .. very effective.. n fast.. Im using it together with Adobe Bridge.. very good in managing the photos n compare photos in 100%...the only bad thing is u cant keep those setting in the camera like Vivid, sharpnest + DR ++ etc etc... I believe the Sony image converter does imbedded these info into the raw file.
but The Sony Image Converter r SLOOWWWWWW... hate it.
The Adobe raw states its for CS4...can it be use on CS2?
Plug in for PP Cs2 tats gonna be Adobe Raw.. (version 3.5 i think)... im using that .. very effective.. n fast.. Im using it together with Adobe Bridge.. very good in managing the photos n compare photos in 100%...the only bad thing is u cant keep those setting in the camera like Vivid, sharpnest + DR ++ etc etc... I believe the Sony image converter does imbedded these info into the raw file.
but The Sony Image Converter r SLOOWWWWWW... hate it.
u sure the 3.5 version can be open Sony RAW files? tried on 3 pcs already... all cannot open it... can you email me your version? braynumb@gmail.com... wanna try yours...
Added on October 5, 2009, 2:31 pm
QUOTE(clivengu @ Oct 5 2009, 02:29 PM)
Er... im using Adobe CS3 actually... but i think if u manage to find the older version of Adobe Raw .. it should able to run on CS2 too. not too sure
cannot ler... older versions don't support ARW files... tried it already...
This post has been edited by Braynumb: Oct 5 2009, 02:31 PM
Plug in for PP Cs2 tats gonna be Adobe Raw.. (version 3.5 i think)... im using that .. very effective.. n fast.. Im using it together with Adobe Bridge.. very good in managing the photos n compare photos in 100%...the only bad thing is u cant keep those setting in the camera like Vivid, sharpnest + DR ++ etc etc... I believe the Sony image converter does imbedded these info into the raw file.
but The Sony Image Converter r SLOOWWWWWW... hate it.
hmm. me not reaally slow, but love using sony converter rather than PS, seems to easy for me.. the photoshop one to much option lol
QUOTE(lightning69 @ Oct 5 2009, 02:15 PM)
The Adobe raw states its for CS4...can it be use on CS2?
Braynumb: I checked my Adobe Raw is version 4.6.. but the only installer file i hv kept is 4.5... Im running photoshop CS3.. but i have Adobe Bridge as well..Usually I run adobe Raw through Adobe Bridge instead of Photoshop..
I go into my Adobe Bridge. Select all the photos i wanna edit.. Press Ctrl R... it bring me to another windows Adobe Raw where i can edit / batch edit everything without the need to go through Photoshop...
when i went to Sony service center in singapore to calibrate my lens...the lady told me..as long as i register my warranty online..she doesnt need to see my receipt/warranty card..lol
They will check the serial number, and they can retrieve our data from the system. U went to tuas to calibrate ur CZ1680 ??
Braynumb: I checked my Adobe Raw is version 4.6.. but the only installer file i hv kept is 4.5... Im running photoshop CS3.. but i have Adobe Bridge as well..Usually I run adobe Raw through Adobe Bridge instead of Photoshop..
I go into my Adobe Bridge. Select all the photos i wanna edit.. Press Ctrl R... it bring me to another windows Adobe Raw where i can edit / batch edit everything without the need to go through Photoshop...
never used adobe bridge before... might try it later... sounds easier...
guys, my A300 LCD is cracked! still under warranty, will i be charged labour charge?
or
only charge for replacement parts?
Woah.. feel so sayang for it if is cause by user (which i think it should.. lcd shouldnt crack by itself).. i guess u will hv to pay for the parts... hope they can FOC labour since still underwarranty
QUOTE(Braynumb @ Oct 5 2009, 03:16 PM)
never used adobe bridge before... might try it later... sounds easier...
Bray i send u the installer file for the adobe raw im using... mayb u can give it a try.
Woah.. feel so sayang for it if is cause by user (which i think it should.. lcd shouldnt crack by itself).. i guess u will hv to pay for the parts... hope they can FOC labour since still underwarranty
some say under warranty no charges... but in alphanatics some of them kena labour charge RM150 as well. not sure if those is expired warranty or not la.
destfull, where can get cheaper Kingston or other brand CF card in Melaka?
dunno, you can try look at Stygix (Navotech.com.my) or any other pc shops.. 16GB SDHC for Sony a230/a330 is around 120 (Kingston) (at other shop) compare to RM399 at Photography Shop
This post has been edited by destfull: Oct 5 2009, 04:02 PM
Wont be 2470 wan la. Crazy 5k le. ): I not lying. Sold off all my lenses gonna jump ship soon. (:
come come Mo0... I already got my Darkside 80 (D80) ler... waiting to have budget to get a 18105 VR... slow and steady... hehehe... later my wife use the a200... yay...
This post has been edited by Braynumb: Oct 5 2009, 04:02 PM
Me, my wife, my daughter and my inlaws... no ler... if I go to TT, won't bring my daughter la... she's sure tired and would be asleep already by 7pm... hehehe...
Me, my wife, my daughter and my inlaws... no ler... if I go to TT, won't bring my daughter la... she's sure tired and would be asleep already by 7pm... hehehe...
hi papa, how old your daughter is? *wink *wink .. ..
That is nice but I too think that the dof is too shallow. That is the classic error most people make when trying to get bokeh....too much of it. Just my opinion.
Anyway, I try out the Sony image converter for raw processing and find it very unfriendly and slow. I prefer Photoshop but not sure if there is any plug in for CS2. Anyone can help?
i also feel the dof is too shallow, i tried to use f32 when 1 first get my raynox and its still very shallow, so now i just use f13, so if wan to get more dof i'll have to use shorter focal length(mostly i use 200mm )..
here's some shot with different focal length on same subject, same angle..
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Joined: Jan 2003
From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
w00t, regarding the A330 grip, i know a lot people (actually, just the alpha's owner) hate it. let face it, it is bad because u compare it to A300. if A300 were never around, and pop out A330, i best everyone will still be screaming how good the camera is.
Uzumaki NaruTo: i do agree, except, lx3 is not for everyone too. again, that is ur humble opinion, my opinion may diff, so is other people. if A330 is not a learner camera? which is? A550? tit for tac, look at the price tag first. A300 is obselete, face it, A330 is the new, better A300. lol... *edit: opps why i sound like some advertisement? hahaha
i still think A330 is still a good camera with the price tag at hand, compare to the "WHOLE DSLR Market". but still, A330 is still NOT AN UPGRADE for user of A100, A200, A300... it's like owning a proton2008, then u wanna upgrade to proton2009... ex1pect it to have new ICU and new fuel injection, answer is NO, u dont. people with A300, should just look at the upcoming A550 or A700. and sell ur A300 to the new comers... hehehehe
This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 5 2009, 05:45 PM
w00t, regarding the A330 grip, i know a lot people (actually, just the alpha's owner) hate it. let face it, it is bad because u compare it to A300. if A300 were never around, and pop out A330, i best everyone will still be screaming how good the camera is.
Uzumaki NaruTo: i do agree, except, lx3 is not for everyone too. again, that is ur humble opinion, my opinion may diff, so is other people. if A330 is not a learner camera? which is? A550? tit for tac, look at the price tag first. A300 is obselete, face it, A330 is the new, better A300. lol...
i still think A330 is still a good camera with the price tag at hand, compare to the "WHOLE DSLR Market". but still, A330 is still NOT AN UPGRADE for user of A100, A200, A300... it's like owning a proton2008, then u wanna upgrade to proton2009... ex1pect it to have new ICU and new fuel injection, answer is NO, u dont. people with A300, should just look at the upcoming A550 or A700. and sell ur A300 to the new comers... hehehehe
That is why you have to try and handle it before. If its uncomfortable better switch to something more comfortable to hold. I was seriously contemplate for a display a350 or a a550 due to the redesigned grip. Yes it should not be considered as an Upgrade but more to segmented market.
Lehtung: I actually like the dof in the 55mm shot.. lol.. the 100mm still not too bad, but the front legs there kinda itches the eye but still not too bad.. the 200mm the bokeh runs all over.. but the details are superb.. I couldnt even get that close with my 300mm lol.. the magnification for the raynox is by how much ah? without the raynox how is the shot?
i also feel the dof is too shallow, i tried to use f32 when 1 first get my raynox and its still very shallow, so now i just use f13, so if wan to get more dof i'll have to use shorter focal length(mostly i use 200mm )..
here's some shot with different focal length on same subject, same angle..
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talking about focusing.. one dumb noob question.. I have a problem in catching night shots correctly.. Looking through the OVF, cannot see clearly.. I have this problem of say, im catching a night view of the kl city from genting, the lights and dots are soo small, cannot see if its clear or not. When viewed in the cam, it looks clear, viewed in the pc it tends to look blur.. I read somewhere that the lens can manual focus to infinity.. Where is that on a kittie lens? turn it left or right all the way?
Lehtung: I actually like the dof in the 55mm shot.. lol.. the 100mm still not too bad, but the front legs there kinda itches the eye but still not too bad.. the 200mm the bokeh runs all over.. but the details are superb.. I couldnt even get that close with my 300mm lol.. the magnification for the raynox is by how much ah? without the raynox how is the shot?
magnification of raynox dcr-250 is 2.5x if i remember correctly, i tried for about 20 shot to get tat single shot at 200mm, dof damn shallow and very hard to focus at the correct point.. tat bug is big tat's why can use 55mm, but many bugs around my house are just around 5-15mm..
Added on October 5, 2009, 6:00 pm
QUOTE(cjlai @ Oct 5 2009, 05:43 PM)
go check out www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html
wow, nice site..
Added on October 5, 2009, 6:02 pm
QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 5 2009, 05:57 PM)
hey, i will be getting my raynox tomolo muahahaha, hope i can learn from u too~
another macro kaki..
This post has been edited by lehtung: Oct 5 2009, 06:02 PM
Hahaha no la. Gonna quit photography le. Selling everything. Use phone cam enough.
WOI.. don scare me.. u serious ah.. just few days ago saw u hv almost a complete set of gears n suddenly u selling everything??? need money to get marry? hehe or jump ship.. (no need paiseh... is ok to share)
hi, the price for sd>cf adapter cost u a new decent 8gb cf. go figure
really, how much is one converter anyway???
i learn that the Kingston Elite Pro 8GB, despite being cheap, have problems with my A300, slow reading/writing speed.... and a Sony branded 4GB is RM299 here, which are the same price range for the Sandisks Ultra 8GB or Extreme 3 4GB....
So wonders if the SDHC (which i oredi have) works well with the CF converter, any comments??
lol .. hahah . no wonder she sleeps around 7pm .. i tot 17-20 years old .. hahahah .. .
hahaha... no ler... I'm only 27 wo... got married so early one meh?? hahahah...
QUOTE(lildaredevil906 @ Oct 5 2009, 05:02 PM)
waa u say until like that make it looks like papa Braynumb is way over his 40's lol
hehehe... ya lo... funny...
QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Oct 5 2009, 05:06 PM)
hahaha .. sorry for that .. .. i just kidding man ... haha ..
No harm done...
QUOTE(lehtung @ Oct 5 2009, 06:11 PM)
i oso wan la.. no money ar.. have to play with raynox for few more month..
in lelong got someone selling for 1.3K++ wo... kinda cheap already...
QUOTE(hezda @ Oct 5 2009, 06:51 PM)
I'm getting more and more "interested" in the 85mm f1.4 recently... lol... but the 70-300G is already killing me...
aiyer... when can we meet up so that I can poison myself with your 175 and 70300G??? this friday?? hehehe you free?? wanna meet up somewhere? kopitiam sure would want to join also... hehehe
QUOTE(ageez @ Oct 5 2009, 06:52 PM)
hi... im a newbie.... baru nak berjinak dlm bidang photoshot... in mind Alpha 200 & Aplha 230... my budget below 2k....
not sure if you can find any new a200 on the market now... but you can go and ask around at camera shops...
QUOTE(hezda @ Oct 5 2009, 07:12 PM)
LOL... think only la... But the image quality sure is great.
sure would be... let us know when you do get the 85mm f1.4... hehehe... wanna test and poison myself also...
QUOTE(lwliam @ Oct 5 2009, 07:30 PM)
dont have to do that, press on the lens release switch for 1 second, then unpress, the lens will auto adjust to infinity
Added on October 5, 2009, 7:31 pmKul | Mo0, u releasing your 11-18 ka?
No ler... Mo0 is adding instead... no releasing for him just yet... I'm waiting till he really gets poisoned by the beercan, so that he'd want to get a 70200G... then I can buy his beercan... Huahahahahaha....
This post has been edited by Braynumb: Oct 5 2009, 08:42 PM
They will check the serial number, and they can retrieve our data from the system. U went to tuas to calibrate ur CZ1680 ??
where they get the "data" in the system??unless the seller actually need to update which camera/lens was sold at which date...else the only reference is the receipt/warranty ma....
where they get the "data" in the system??unless the seller actually need to update which camera/lens was sold at which date...else the only reference is the receipt/warranty ma....
btw..i went to orchid there to calibrate my 50mm
I mean if u register your product online. The Sales assistant at SONY STYLE, with the serial number of your product, they can retrieve the "data" u have put into MYSONY. I remember that last year I send my camera to service the lens without any receipt. Orchard got service center meh? Wisma Atria is only a collection center wo. They calibrate on the spot?
Added on October 5, 2009, 9:56 pm
QUOTE(ohzmygod @ Oct 5 2009, 09:18 PM)
someone offers me new a700 @ rm3300. expensive oh
this is the price i get at JB
This post has been edited by hkhk: Oct 5 2009, 09:56 PM
Wah really need to do a stealth mod ? Be proud of the a la.Yeah but most of the camera shops i went shows a wtf face when i ask sony dslr. Is it that bad eh?
Wah really need to do a stealth mod ? Be proud of the a la.Yeah but most of the camera shops i went shows a wtf face when i ask sony dslr. Is it that bad eh?
Stealth mode not becoz it's SONY. If that is CANON / NIKON or whatever.. I would stealth it as well.. just for security reason. I still not used to carry a big camera walking alone in street... besides, I don carry a laptop bag look like a laptop bag, and I don carry a camera bag that looks like camera bag.
Stealth mode not becoz it's SONY. If that is CANON / NIKON or whatever.. I would stealth it as well.. just for security reason. I still not used to carry a big camera walking alone in street... besides, I don carry a laptop bag look like a laptop bag, and I don carry a camera bag that looks like camera bag.
then u shd mod ur slr so it looks like a water bottle or something..lol
actually i think stealth mod is kinda cool..it not really shame of the brand or anything...to me..it makes u "different"...
then u shd mod ur slr so it looks like a water bottle or something..lol
I wish I could..
QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 5 2009, 10:58 PM)
What would a next logical upgrade from 50mm f1.8 prime lens for portraits ? Low light is important
50mmf1.4 ? => joking U might like Tamron SP90 f2.8. It's a macro lens, kind of slow, but the range is very nice.. (35mm equivalent = 135mm) and the pic also very sharp. It win me some small prizes for me.. if u want faster lens.. get the CZ 85mm or 135mm.. sure chun..
This post has been edited by hkhk: Oct 5 2009, 11:11 PM
if u want faster lens.. get the CZ 85mm or 135mm.. sure chun..
im so bad poisoned by 135 1.8 or 135 STF or 70200...really love those focal length for portraits...but i guess i've done enough spending this year..keep it for next year..lol....n furthermore..i realized i didnt really shoot portrait THAT often..lol
im so bad poisoned by 135 1.8 or 135 STF or 70200...really love those focal length for portraits...but i guess i've done enough spending this year..keep it for next year..lol....n furthermore..i realized i didnt really shoot portrait THAT often..lol
well this year only left.. 87 days.. Xmas is coming.. good reason to spend.. lol
well this year only left.. 87 days.. Xmas is coming.. good reason to spend.. lol
nah..lol...wont b getting anything big...
probably a new bag (6million dollar home cannot fit my giant camera/lens anymore T_T )...or a CPL(but i dont really go on trip..so lesser chance)..or a small FM20(hopefully i able to win a F48 from alphanatic first =p )....
suddently bought new iphone 3gs..mbp..a850..2470..i don have anymore saving for this year liao..lol.....so need to wait a lil long for any big spending..keep buying nonstop..my saving plan would b scrapped eventually..lol
no..im not saying. i m cursing. hahahahaa how come u got 2 years extended warranty? by photokem ar?
hehe. I actually payed another hundred (rm 180 i think) for the extra 2 years warranty..
QUOTE(lwliam @ Oct 5 2009, 09:46 PM)
ohzmygod, then i sell my A700, 3 months old, RM3899... more oh my god than clive's hahahhahahhaahhaha... throw in kit lens
throw in kit lens somemore.. I throw in my A100 body!! HIAK!!! .. okey i take back my word
QUOTE(lwliam @ Oct 5 2009, 09:58 PM)
TEH PAPARAZZO~!
Camera Model - Sony Alpha A700 Lens - Minolta 28mm prime Exposure - 1/30s, f/2.8 @ 2000 ISO
hey.. really nice!! NICE MOMENT!! I wouldnt dare to shoot smthing like this.. im too timid.. the "flare" comes in very naturally to set up the mood.. tell me that is not photoshoped
QUOTE(destfull @ Oct 5 2009, 11:01 PM)
to me, owning an alpha is already different... Only 1/20 dslr guy when I walk around holding Sony Alpha...
agree
"SONY. LIKE NO OTHERS!" but these days not as "cold" as 2 years back lo.. Last time ppl see sony is like .. "WTF!! WTF IS THAT!! hahahha SONY GOT DSLR!??? must get.. NIKON/CANON still the best (depend which fanboy is him).... dont even know sony got release dslr then still can criticize...obviously he knows nothing..
QUOTE(hkhk @ Oct 5 2009, 11:07 PM)
I wish I could.. 50mmf1.4 ? => joking U might like Tamron SP90 f2.8. It's a macro lens, kind of slow, but the range is very nice.. (35mm equivalent = 135mm) and the pic also very sharp. It win me some small prizes for me.. if u want faster lens.. get the CZ 85mm or 135mm.. sure chun..
50 F1.4 of course is considering upgrade too (small step).. can fit for fullframe, F1.4, n i heard they say sharper n better image quality oh... nvr really compare side by side with F1.8 so i cant tell. or u can skip all these mini lenses.. n go directly for the 135 F1.8!... AHMIKE!! TIME TO RELEASE POISON!
I think i need to get a better filter.. cleaning a filter for more than 1 hour.. n I still see some marking.. sigh..
actually i've been quite rough on my filters..lol..thats y i never really invest in a really good one like cz or bw...my most exp one is only the hoya 77mm pro1D..haha..
ISO 2000 wow.. the noise reduction is quite good.. PP done?
no PP, only minor crop at the left edge, coz got a random elbow there... yup i was suprised at the noise handling as well..
QUOTE(clivengu @ Oct 5 2009, 11:42 PM)
hehe. I actually payed another hundred (rm 180 i think) for the extra 2 years warranty.. throw in kit lens somemore.. I throw in my A100 body!! HIAK!!! .. okey i take back my word hey.. really nice!! NICE MOMENT!! I wouldnt dare to shoot smthing like this.. im too timid.. the "flare" comes in very naturally to set up the mood.. tell me that is not photoshoped agree
nope, flare is original... no PP.. the 28mm prime is quite notorious for its flaring, which sometimes is a good thing
Which brand of filter so stubborn ? didn't try using Lenspen to clean it ?
Tokina UV. Cheapest in their range.. The marking is actually those oil stain / maybe impurity from the solution i use. and maybe come from the wipes. I have lens pens, but seem like my lens pen is contaminated. And there is some tiny dots which cannot be cleaned.. i think it's the defect on the filter itselfs.. cheap filter.. wat to do?
QUOTE(achew @ Oct 6 2009, 12:02 AM)
actually i've been quite rough on my filters..lol..thats y i never really invest in a really good one like cz or bw...my most exp one is only the hoya 77mm pro1D..haha..
Pro1D is not cheap lo.. ppl will recommend B+W MRC for easy cleaning..
This post has been edited by hkhk: Oct 6 2009, 12:11 AM
It's better to turn off before changing lens. There is incident that a camera user (dono which brand) didn't turn off the body before changing lens. when he put a 3rd party lens, it short the whole system.. and the body is death..
Not cover under warranty if this happen with 3rd party lens..
spot metering will follow ur focus point, unless ur focusing not on ur subject, then u still have live view to figure the exposure out (u cant rely on the metering-bar anymore)
Spot metering is fixed at the center spot. It won't move / follow the focus point at least for A200 and A700. not sure for other cam. Maybe it's different for those with live view??
I would like to have that spot metering following focus point also.. lot's of my photo will have proper exposure without the need to set the EV compensation..
Added on October 6, 2009, 12:44 am
QUOTE(lildaredevil906 @ Oct 6 2009, 12:41 AM)
wa scary... if our sony lens short the whole body, covered by warranty meh? by right the user killed the body ma.. not the body died by itself..
U always can say a different story when u want to claim warranty right? If it involve 3rd party lens, sure they don want to fix for free la..
This post has been edited by hkhk: Oct 6 2009, 12:44 AM
ya la.. but does our warranty include the shorting of the body? thats the question =P.. because normally by right, as most warranty goes, whatever that is self inflicted is not covered..
i mean one look they might know that its self inflicted or they might not, thats another story hehe =)
I go out jalan jalan this afternoon to test some shot.. I find these 2 "contrasting" signages.. n decided try to Focus on the signage to see if it works.... Turns out i think both of the r OOF...Shooting at higher F of course no problem since everything is sharp..
Photos below:
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The photos r without crop.. shooting using Spot focusing Iso 100, F 2.8 -3.5, Shutter speed 1/100 n above. I wish to get all experience sifus .. under this kind of condition.. is focusing on the signage (of that size) difficult for the camera? is it my problem i shouldnt even thinking of shooting using F2.8 since it will not work like tat anyway...Im trying to prove is it my shooting problem or d lens problem.. i hvnt got an answer yet
sleepless night...so decided to shoot something..but damn..i got sleepy 1/2 way thru the shoot...zzz..didnt really turn out as what i wanted...but i guess i shd call it a day..really really sleepy now..lol
I go out jalan jalan this afternoon to test some shot.. I find these 2 "contrasting" signages.. n decided try to Focus on the signage to see if it works.... Turns out i think both of the r OOF...Shooting at higher F of course no problem since everything is sharp..
Photos below:
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The photos r without crop.. shooting using Spot focusing Iso 100, F 2.8 -3.5, Shutter speed 1/100 n above. I wish to get all experience sifus .. under this kind of condition.. is focusing on the signage (of that size) difficult for the camera? is it my problem i shouldnt even thinking of shooting using F2.8 since it will not work like tat anyway...Im trying to prove is it my shooting problem or d lens problem.. i hvnt got an answer yet
your tammy still giving focus problem clive? the signage is sooo out of focus have you tried manual focusing?
Added on October 6, 2009, 9:40 am
QUOTE(cjlai @ Oct 6 2009, 09:36 AM)
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nice cj
This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Oct 6 2009, 09:40 AM
good morning n a good day to u all cjlai - good shot, very sharp. tks for the morning treats. A550 at rm2700, good but not good enough. will wait for the review b4 making any decision. i somewat think tat da DRO button is kinda strange instead of a WB button.
I'm somehow more looking forward to the release of the a7X0 model... should have better noise control like the a500/550 but with the a700 body... nice...
I'm somehow more looking forward to the release of the a7X0 model... should have better noise control like the a500/550 but with the a700 body... nice...
me too... but with more n more poison coming out from A550, resistance could be futile
"Photowalking is the act of walking with a camera for the main purpose of taking pictures of things that the photographer may find interesting.
It is usually a communal activity organised by camera clubs, online forums or commercial organisations. It is often done as a method to practice and improve one's own photography skills rather than a with specific focus on documentary photography."
This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Oct 6 2009, 11:51 AM
"Photowalking is the act of walking with a camera for the main purpose of taking pictures of things that the photographer may find interesting.
It is usually a communal activity organised by camera clubs, online forums or commercial organisations. It is often done as a method to practice and improve one's own photography skills rather than a with specific focus on documentary photography."
I guess photowalking does not confine to Street Photography... but outdoors, jungletracking, zoos or even indoors as in visiting any offices, shops etc... as long as its done during the walking session with a group of people
I guess photowalking does not confine to Street Photography... but outdoors, jungletracking, zoos or even indoors as in visiting any offices, shops etc... as long as its done during the walking session with a group of people
Added on October 6, 2009, 12:08 pm like this you mean ? hehe
use the YouTube tag and insert inbetween the tags the embedded address of your choosen video
Any recommended camera shops in SG? and the best place to test Sony camera is Sony shop?
try cathay photo or MS color...
if u need the know the price..can use their e-quote...but anyway...if u getting camera/lens..its very likely the price here is 10~20% more exp than msia
I'm doin ok... tryin to find my passion for photography again... need to go out and shoot again... how bout you? how's your shooting activity been?
yea man ya gotta keep shootin' my shooting activity? been shooting a lot la... started accepting small jobs edi.... i cant continue spending for my baby without making anything in return kan.... pokai oledi la...
yea man ya gotta keep shootin' my shooting activity? been shooting a lot la... started accepting small jobs edi.... i cant continue spending for my baby without making anything in return kan.... pokai oledi la...
yo macha.....wana go outdoor shooting....? if hav plans ajak me also la...
the elderly pic (may i call her grandma?) i a stunning one.. nicely.. ops.. greatly captured pic...
the compo is... 'strong'
QUOTE(limgp1976 @ Oct 6 2009, 04:17 PM)
NIce ...
hahaha... I got hit by grandma after that for flashing her face so close... hahahaha... good thing the pic was nice... coz don't think I could take another picture of her without being smacked again...
This post has been edited by Braynumb: Oct 6 2009, 04:19 PM
hahaha... I got hit by grandma after that for flashing her face so close... hahahaha... good thing the pic was nice... coz don't think I could take another picture of her without being smacked again...
its okay.. its one of the nicest pic we have so far in thes 32nd thread
did she hit u hard enuff? should be hard enuff tho if ur flashing in the face of sum1 as old as her..
Using my 16105, get as close to my grandma as the minimum focusing distance can go, flash bounce upwards+bounce carn 1/4 way up, focus on her eyes and then, re-compose my shot so that I'd use the rules of third and take the picture. and then get smacked by grandma coz firing the flash too close to her eyes.... hehehe... good thing the picture was just as I imagined it... only difference was I imagined taking that kind of picture at her house at Kampung. where the surroundings would be more comfortable for her. but, that's what I can get so far. so, ok lo... hehehe
QUOTE(freddy manson @ Oct 6 2009, 04:24 PM)
its okay.. its one of the nicest pic we have so far in thes 32nd thread
did she hit u hard enuff? should be hard enuff tho if ur flashing in the face of sum1 as old as her..
no diffuser eh?
got diffuser... but with bounce card summore... she can take it la... hehehe... she knows I love taking pics... always take her pics last time with my henfon leh...
"SONY. LIKE NO OTHERS!" but these days not as "cold" as 2 years back lo.. Last time ppl see sony is like .. "WTF!! WTF IS THAT!! hahahha SONY GOT DSLR!??? must get.. NIKON/CANON still the best (depend which fanboy is him).... dont even know sony got release dslr then still can criticize...obviously he knows nothing.. 50 F1.4 of course is considering upgrade too (small step).. can fit for fullframe, F1.4, n i heard they say sharper n better image quality oh... nvr really compare side by side with F1.8 so i cant tell. or u can skip all these mini lenses.. n go directly for the 135 F1.8!... AHMIKE!! TIME TO RELEASE POISON!
A question here....y do most ppl think sony slr is lame?for example i take on wat happen on few days ago...there was ths guy who kind of expert in photography, most of his picture is quite impressive,he is fren of my cousin....and so i jz say to my cousin if gt chance..maybe i can learn some from him. thn he said to my cousin and my sister(i wasnt there), If i want learn ..can....but if use Sony cannot learn from him...... sony really got tht worst?as i see back my photo...not bad also wat...... ..no la..seriously...even all members in this forum post up some fantastic and great photo, is this not good enough to prove tht alpha is great ? summore he said to both my cousin n sister tht...he do photography stuff jz for part time only...
This post has been edited by invisibl3boyz: Oct 6 2009, 04:37 PM
A question here....y do most ppl think sony slr is lame?for example i take on wat happen on few days ago...there was ths guy who kind of expert in photography, most of his picture is quite impressive,he is fren of my cousin....and so i jz say to my cousin if gt chance..maybe i can learn some from him. thn he said to my cousin and my sister(i wasnt there), If i want learn ..can....but if use Sony cannot learn from him...... sony really got tht worst?as i see back my photo...not bad also wat...... summore he said to both my cousin n sister tht...he do photography stuff jz for part time only...
coz he's an idiot with Sony's lenses/system.. maybe cant shoot pictures right.. he depends oh his rig oni..
eh but bray... just an opinion la... using a higher f number, then firing flash on WL with the wide diffuser at 1/2 or 1/1 would give that dimmed background effect thingy that'll prolly make the photo a lil more interesting kan...
LOL.. another reason why i wanna stealth my gear, prevent stuff like these.. I have my manager who just bought a nikon d3000 just for the sake that she thinks nikon are great, i think the pics turn out like sh!t.. ok la.. give credit.. some pics nice.. but the attitude towards sony.. wa.. xboleh tahan..
Again, people say, its the brain behind the viewfinder that creates the pics.. so.. mix with sony thread more, youll learn alot more..
LOL.. another reason why i wanna stealth my gear, prevent stuff like these.. I have my manager who just bought a nikon d3000 just for the sake that she thinks nikon are great, i think the pics turn out like sh!t.. ok la.. give credit.. some pics nice.. but the attitude towards sony.. wa.. xboleh tahan..
Again, people say, its the brain behind the viewfinder that creates the pics.. so.. mix with sony thread more, youll learn alot more..
side note, whats d3000 equivalent to? a700?
lol....d3000 not even near to a700...its more a d60 replacement....and u noe where's it lies....
LOL.. another reason why i wanna stealth my gear, prevent stuff like these.. I have my manager who just bought a nikon d3000 just for the sake that she thinks nikon are great, i think the pics turn out like sh!t.. ok la.. give credit.. some pics nice.. but the attitude towards sony.. wa.. xboleh tahan..
Again, people say, its the brain behind the viewfinder that creates the pics.. so.. mix with sony thread more, youll learn alot more..
side note, whats d3000 equivalent to? a700?
bev no need stealth... they talk2 means just smile only.... no need to argue oso.... rilek jee...
yealo....even some of them using canon or nikon, but pic is almost the same like using normal digital camera only... erm...so its all depends on photographer itself... hope any alpharians who get or hear such stupid comment...juz ignore it........
hazril: LOL a d60 replacement? damn.. mah the level of entry is the same with a300 only.. ish... she talks as if her nikon is god..
Chris: be proud kan? lol.. i will be proud when i get me f1.4 or 1.8 =P im starting to love portrait shots.. but.. 50mm fixed very limited.. have to move foward and backwards more..
invisibl3boyz: itll kinda motivate us to capture better pics =) "who says sony cannot do? can oneeeee" hahah
This post has been edited by lildaredevil906: Oct 6 2009, 05:05 PM
be proud with the cheapest gear you can have as well! remember, it's the shots not the gear... and please tell me ur getting f1.4.... you should try taking potraits at 30mm bev! i like the angle of view....
some ppl just have diff view...i got one customer very humble...when ask what camera using,he said cap ayam only...1ds mark3 consider cap ayam...hehehehe...this fella even using bilingham beg some more....(did i spell it correctly...??)
some ppl just have diff view...i got one customer very humble...when ask what camera using,he said cap ayam only...1ds mark3 consider cap ayam...hehehehe...this fella even using bilingham beg some more....(did i spell it correctly...??)
hazril: LOL a d60 replacement? damn.. mah the level of entry is the same with a300 only.. ish... she talks as if her nikon is god..
Chris: be proud kan? lol.. i will be proud when i get me f1.4 or 1.8 =P im starting to love portrait shots.. but.. 50mm fixed very limited.. have to move foward and backwards more..
invisibl3boyz: itll kinda motivate us to capture better pics =) "who says sony cannot do? can oneeeee" hahah
be proud with the cheapest gear you can have as well! remember, it's the shots not the gear... and please tell me ur getting f1.4.... you should try taking potraits at 30mm bev! i like the angle of view....
f1.8 cannot meh? =P.. cheaper by 500 lehh lol..
QUOTE(hazril @ Oct 6 2009, 05:28 PM)
some ppl just have diff view...i got one customer very humble...when ask what camera using,he said cap ayam only...1ds mark3 consider cap ayam...hehehehe...this fella even using bilingham beg some more....(did i spell it correctly...??)
very humble.. its these kinds of user i value most..
QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Oct 6 2009, 05:38 PM)
In fact I heard the D3000 is even worse than the D60 le. But never liked Nokin and Nonac's entry levels le. (:
Nokin's entry levels to me lack of buttons. Setting wise.. it all seems so kayu..
This post has been edited by lildaredevil906: Oct 6 2009, 05:41 PM
Chris: be proud kan? lol.. i will be proud when i get me f1.4 or 1.8 =P im starting to love portrait shots.. but.. 50mm fixed very limited.. have to move foward and backwards more..
i love prime =D
unless u r doing some event where space is very limited.....if space is not a prob..i'd change all my lens to prime..lol...
if u need the know the price..can use their e-quote...but anyway...if u getting camera/lens..its very likely the price here is 10~20% more exp than msia
even so. the warranty doubts me... I guess u fell into same dilemma before right? xD
be proud with the cheapest gear you can have as well! remember, it's the shots not the gear... and please tell me ur getting f1.4.... you should try taking potraits at 30mm bev! i like the angle of view....
even so. the warranty doubts me... I guess u fell into same dilemma before right? xD
Rushing back to KL for warranty is quite a pain.
90% of the time i'd be in singapore....unless JB have the maybank promo which i got my 2470...normally i'd get it in singapore..i mean..if its less than 100+sgd diff....it'd b really trouble for me to go down KL..
warranty wise..if u don mind the additional months(from the online registration)..u can actually convert to limited tourist warranty which last 1year..but that also mean u forfeit the warranty from msia..
90% of the time i'd be in singapore....unless JB have the maybank promo which i got my 2470...normally i'd get it in singapore..i mean..if its less than 100+sgd diff....it'd b really trouble for me to go down KL..
warranty wise..if u don mind the additional months(from the online registration)..u can actually convert to limited tourist warranty which last 1year..but that also mean u forfeit the warranty from msia..
thanks a lot.. its really helpful for me. i think i have to reconsider it again. Reply appreciated.
Hope i got the chance to learn from you in the future. Be in singapore feel isolate from lowyat guys when come to outing><
so i take it as u going to buy in 2months time... =p
must resist racun!! This year for christmas im going to SG for holiday.. I wanna walk down Orchard road snapping decor pics. im bringing my whole set of gears there.. including tripod.. I wonder if they allow me to carry the tripod or not inflight lol.. most likely ill get 2nd hand cause at end of 2010, friends already planned a trip to Taiwan. How to save?.. I know m0os secret lens will racun me kau kau.. die lor hahaha
My friends are telling me to sell my gears to fund for trips.. I tell them that no cam = no memories.. Guess what they say.. they will sponsor me a PnS...
LOL.. another reason why i wanna stealth my gear, prevent stuff like these.. I have my manager who just bought a nikon d3000 just for the sake that she thinks nikon are great, i think the pics turn out like sh!t.. ok la.. give credit.. some pics nice.. but the attitude towards sony.. wa.. xboleh tahan..
Again, people say, its the brain behind the viewfinder that creates the pics.. so.. mix with sony thread more, youll learn alot more..
side note, whats d3000 equivalent to? a700?
why do you bother so much on how ppl look at the gears? i understand if ya wana be humble with the gears but i dont see why u cant be proud of having a sony? what's wrong? :s......
d3000 is the lowest in the line up..no where near a700 ....
must resist racun!! This year for christmas im going to SG for holiday.. I wanna walk down Orchard road snapping decor pics. im bringing my whole set of gears there.. including tripod.. I wonder if they allow me to carry the tripod or not inflight lol.. most likely ill get 2nd hand cause at end of 2010, friends already planned a trip to Taiwan. How to save?.. I know m0os secret lens will racun me kau kau.. die lor hahaha
My friends are telling me to sell my gears to fund for trips.. I tell them that no cam = no memories.. Guess what they say.. they will sponsor me a PnS...
haha.. you must choose the day before or 2 days before if you going for night shots.. If not, its impossible for you to take your camera up and take a steady shot. It is soooooooooooooooooooooo damn crowed.
Wow... had not beein in the lowyat orange thread since.... v27? How is everything progressing?
Anyway, share 1 photo taken at KLCC. Yes, the one place in KL where everyone had taken a photo of it before. Hahaha.... But just to share, cause this is one of the last photo set from my A700 & SAL1118. No more A700 & SAL1118 after that....
18-250mm lens will be the best to carry around right?
its one of those "all-in-one"...u probably only need to bring 1 when u go on travel...but in exchange..u sacrifice ur IQ and aperture a lil for the range..for me..i stil prefer those dedicated lenses.. =p
Wow... had not beein in the lowyat orange thread since.... v27? How is everything progressing?
Anyway, share 1 photo taken at KLCC. Yes, the one place in KL where everyone had taken a photo of it before. Hahaha.... But just to share, cause this is one of the last photo set from my A700 & SAL1118. No more A700 & SAL1118 after that....
Congrats on your new A850 now everybody upgrading to FF
its one of those "all-in-one"...u probably only need to bring 1 when u go on travel...but in exchange..u sacrifice ur IQ and aperture a lil for the range..for me..i stil prefer those dedicated lenses.. =p
As I know... SONY SLR camera come with Image Stabiliser ... so you can use any lens ... correct me if i am wrong ...
theoretically yes... any A mount lens will have the SSS (SuperSteadyShot) available also Sony Alpha all have the in-body motor... so whether the lens has inbuild motor or not, AF should work
This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Oct 6 2009, 08:28 PM
Oct 3 2009, 09:49 AM, updated 17y ago
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If only the rumoured A730/A750 tak keluar lagi
if is cause by user (which i think it should.. lcd shouldnt crack by itself).. i guess u will hv to pay for the parts... hope they can FOC labour since still underwarranty
morning!!!
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sony really got tht worst?as i see back my photo...not bad also wat...... 
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