New APS-C / DT Crop Lenses ----------------------------
Sony 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 DT = RM20xx Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA = RM25xx Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM16xx Sony 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM16xx Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM5xx Sigma 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC HSM Macro = RM30xx
New Full-Frame Lenses ------------------------
Sony 16mm F2.8 Diagonal Fisheye = RM25xx Sony 20mm F2.8 = RM19xx Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 24-70mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx Sony 24-105mm F3.5-4.5 = RM18xx Sony 28mm F2.8 = RM8xx Sony 35mm F1.4G = RM45xx Sony 50mm F1.4 = RM10xx Sony 50mm F2.8 Macro = RM14xx Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 Macro = RM30xx Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro = RM38xx Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM = RM54xx Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM = RM25xx Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM = RM54xx Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA = RM50xx Sony 100mm F2.8 Macro = RM23xx Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA = RM48xx Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus = RM36xx Sony 500mm F8.0 AF Reflex = RM25xx Sony 300mm F2.8G SSM = RM20xxx Sony 1.4x Teleconverter = RM15xx Sony 2.0x Teleconverter = RM15xx
Common Kelvin White Balance Settings : 2500K - very strong orange tungsten light 2800K - strong orange tungsten light 3200K - yellowish tungsten light 4500K M6 - flourescent light (most flourescent tubes are green even though our eyes don't see it) 5500K - flash 6500K - daylight (or daylight-balanced flourescent light) 9900K - strong blue stage lighting or evening light
Xenon lighting is rare but that should be between 7000-9000K.
Whenever you enter a new situation that has different WB, just set your Kelvin WB again and test with one shot. You
should be able to do this with practice.
With the Sony A300 and A350, you can use Live View and see the effect of changing Kelvin WB... live!
M = Magenta G = Green 2500K = Blue 9900K = Amber
Take a picture. Supposing the picture is very Green, you need to add the opposite which is Magenta. If the picture is
too Blue you need to go closer to Amber. So if the picture is very blue-green-ish, you will need to go closer to 9900K
M9.
To prevent the built-in flash from appearing in pictures when in wireless flash mode, you can use any of these
methods, or a combination of them:
- use a darker aperture (e.g. F11) - use a lower ISO (e.g. ISO100) - use a shutter speed faster than your flash sync speed so that High Speed Sync is activated (e.g. 1/320th of a
second) - use a piece of exposed, developed negative film in front of your pop-up flash
Wan to ask.. Normally we purchase lens, got 12 + 6 month warranty if register online. If I buy using the SONY CARD. then I have 12 + 6 + 12 month warranty or just 12 + 12 month ?
If using SonyCard, you get 12+12 only (24 months warranty)
for the f58 i can answer u =P foto miami at ss14.. price 1015. They are out of stock for now tho.. stocks supposed to arrive soon...
true true....i went there last saturday, and the stock habis rdy....damn sad! He said maybe the stock come in today, must check later and c....other place, like lowyat and sg. wang can get cheapest RM1100 ni......haih....still very expensive compared to RM1015 that foto miami offer....
ya man.. wednesday liao.. eh.. if u happen to go there first.. post here if got stock or not =P
I planning to call the shop later eventhough he promised to call me when the stock arrives! LoL! Tak sabar rdy.... If got stock, i will be going this evening afta work, so i will post it here first be4 i go okey?
Dayum... page 2 already??? too fast la... hehehe... anyway, continue from last thread:
albnok: what does APO really means?
coz my el-cheapo siggy 70300 dun haf APO... last time i research wat is it actually.. from my understanding.....
the sensor capture the images in 3 different color RGB.. and each color has its own wavelength.. as it is in wave form... it travel at different speed to reach the sensor...
if ur lens dun haf APO correction... the image later on will looks like all 3 color fall not on the same spot.. easier to notice at newspaper ker... when they print the image different ink doesnt match the previous ink place..
because i just wanted to copy his style .. later he will come with his macro poison .. hahah .. ...
guys,
if i am going for studio light, what should i consider? the spec? the brand? the price? accessories? etc? .. please help .. (i am just asking for future, not now) .. ..
because i just wanted to copy his style .. later he will come with his macro poison .. hahah .. ...
guys,
if i am going for studio light, what should i consider? the spec? the brand? the price? accessories? etc? .. please help .. (i am just asking for future, not now) .. ..
haha yea man... but i love his macro shots la... and the guy himself, always humble although pro... just hope they're no sony bodies with video too soon, then can see bug macro-porno-graphy video edition!.
haha yea man... but i love his macro shots la... and the guy himself, always humble although pro... just hope they're no sony bodies with video too soon, then can see bug macro-porno-graphy video edition!.
haha .. yup .. i pm him asking about studio light, he sms me with the answer .. damn good service .. wakak .. ..
btw guys, 50mm 1.8 does not come with hood, right? .. just to make sure because i dont get mine .
because i just wanted to copy his style .. later he will come with his macro poison .. hahah .. ...
guys,
if i am going for studio light, what should i consider? the spec? the brand? the price? accessories? etc? .. please help .. (i am just asking for future, not now) .. ..
bro... brand not important.... the power is important..... 400w 500w or above..... price it depend on the brand.. china one i cheap...like jinbie or ect.... price from 1k to many kkkkk..... accessories....payung....i dont have yet...soft box include on the studio light if u want bigger...then the kkkk is bigger also flash trigger also want..hot shoe also want...back drop....paper ada kain ada....stand pun mau
Added on September 9, 2009, 12:01 pm
sejuk nyaman...tapi puasa.............
Added on September 9, 2009, 12:08 pm
QUOTE(lildaredevil906 @ Sep 9 2009, 11:59 AM)
ryzan, faster get ur sp90, then sell me ur raynox at rm100 =P..
im in process of building my alien gun! ^^ getting my 75-300 today yay!
ryzan, bug sifu, come teach a budak tadika to shoot flies which u can count how many bulu they have =P
u want this ah....
im not sifu la....cant be... sure...i can teach u what i had.. when shoot macro... 1. manual focus 2. iso 100 to 200 3.f 10 above 4.flash.... 5..alien gun/....... 5. sabar..................
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bro... brand not important.... the power is important..... 400w 500w or above..... price it depend on the brand.. china one i cheap...like jinbie or ect.... price from 1k to many kkkkk..... accessories....payung....i dont have yet...soft box include on the studio light if u want bigger...then the kkkk is bigger also flash trigger also want..hot shoe also want...back drop....paper ada kain ada....stand pun mau
Added on September 9, 2009, 12:01 pm
sejuk nyaman...tapi puasa.............
Added on September 9, 2009, 12:08 pm u want this ah....
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im not sifu la....cant be... sure...i can teach u what i had.. when shoot macro... 1. manual focus 2. iso 100 to 200 3.f 10 above 4.flash.... 5..alien gun/....... 5. sabar..................
flash, im planning to purchase the f58.. alien gun, u mentioned 70-200 + raynox ok kan?.. but curious, i think this question ask before adi.. if u flash, wont the bugs terkejut and then fly away?
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lol didnt know he got the sp90 =P
This post has been edited by lildaredevil906: Sep 9 2009, 12:21 PM
flash, im planning to purchase the f58.. alien gun, u mentioned 70-200 + raynox ok kan?.. but curious, i think this question ask before adi.. if u flash, wont the bugs terkejut and then fly away?
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lol didnt know he got the sp90 =P
alien gun is home made stuff to be paired with a flash .. not 70-200 + raynox .. and you cannot use 70-200 with raynox because raynox only support up to 67mm while 70-200 has 77mm .. damn weird if using 70-200 with raynox .. ..
about your last question, that why u need alien gun .. it will soften the flash and also give a good coverage of light ... ..
This post has been edited by Seng_Kiat: Sep 9 2009, 12:29 PM
flash, im planning to purchase the f58.. alien gun, u mentioned 70-200 + raynox ok kan?.. but curious, i think this question ask before adi.. if u flash, wont the bugs terkejut and then fly away?
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lol didnt know he got the sp90 =P
55-200 or 70-210 aka beercan combine wit raynox they dont fly...thats y must sabar
oo.. coz im actually purchasing the 75-300 later.. cod with someone.. 75-300 can combine with raynox?
Seng_Kiat: how come weird ah? info abit =P later i purchase wrong lens i hailat hehe
fyi, here is 70-200 which is badly needed by ryzan ...
why weird? because it is weird .. haha .. .. no la .. weird because if u can buy 70-200, why u cant buy a proper macro lens instead? .. raynox cannot be used on 70-200 because raynox only support up to 67mm diameter while 70-200 is 77mm ..
oo.. coz im actually purchasing the 75-300 later.. cod with someone.. 75-300 can combine with raynox?
Seng_Kiat: how come weird ah? info abit =P later i purchase wrong lens i hailat hehe
get a used 55-200...price shud be 400~500 only... if u can afford a 70200G, might as well buy SP90 liao..(for macro) If got more money to spend, u can try
Sigma 150mm f/2.8 or Sigma 105mm f/2.8..
it gives better MFD which is easier for bug shot so u dont scare them:) Tamron 90m f/2.8 at 1:1 MFD = 29cm Sigma 105mm f/2.8 at 1:1 MFD = 31cm Sigma 150mm f/2.8 at 1:1 MFD = 38cm Sigma 180mm f/3.5 at 1:1 MFD = 46 cm
This post has been edited by Sp00kY: Sep 9 2009, 01:15 PM
im not sifu la....cant be... sure...i can teach u what i had.. when shoot macro... 1. manual focus 2. iso 100 to 200 3.f 10 above 4.flash.... 5..alien gun/....... 5. sabar..................
this is key to macro
Added on September 9, 2009, 1:19 pm
QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Sep 9 2009, 01:10 PM)
get a used 55-200...price shud be 400~500 only... if u can afford a 70200G, might as well buy SP90 liao..(for macro) If got more money to spend, u can try
Sigma 150mm f/2.8 or Sigma 105mm f/2.8..
it gives better MFD which is easier for bug shot so u dont scare them:) Tamron 90m f/2.8 at 1:1 MFD = 29cm Sigma 105mm f/2.8 at 1:1 MFD = 31cm Sigma 150mm f/2.8 at 1:1 MFD = 38cm Sigma 180mm f/3.5 at 1:1 MFD = 46 cm
Sigma 150mm f/2.8 or Sigma 105mm f/2.8.. dun hv sony mount la i think
This post has been edited by cjlai: Sep 9 2009, 01:19 PM
coz my el-cheapo siggy 70300 dun haf APO... last time i research wat is it actually.. from my understanding.....
the sensor capture the images in 3 different color RGB.. and each color has its own wavelength.. as it is in wave form... it travel at different speed to reach the sensor...
if ur lens dun haf APO correction... the image later on will looks like all 3 color fall not on the same spot.. easier to notice at newspaper ker... when they print the image different ink doesnt match the previous ink place..
err.... got wat i meant ar bro??
In simple non-technical terms, can just say the color reproduction is not vivid (i.e. quite pale) even if you bump up the saturation to the max. So, anything lens that touches near 300mm length it's best to invest in an APO, otherwise the lens should just stay in the dry box.
Guys, i just called Foto Miami.....they still out of stock for the 'Cobra'....it seems they have already ordered 1mth bt neva gets stock yet.....waaaaa.....i need a flash urgent! where else i can get it cheap ar? please sum one give sum suggestion!
Hello, am planning to get Sony Alpha. A fren of mine offered to sell off his alpha a300 with the price of RM1.6k, with 1 18-70mm lense, few months old. Worth to have it or should got for a new one?
I was thinking of maybe getting Alpha a350. Your advice is much appreciated. TQ!!
achew: any super BIG sony style in SG? or any place to recommend for DSLR shopping? I will be there next week:) thanks
u can find sony in quite a few places...orchard road there have a few...Jurong Point located at BoonLay has one too..u can find them from Sony Singapore website if i not wrong....but like what HKHK said..ur only chance is to take alook at Comex IT fair..probably sony have better offer there..if u looking at normal price in sony retail shop..don even bother...just imagine 70200 street price here is close to 3k SGD or more...
Ryzan dude...after u bought ur 70200..pls do not post any photo here...i warn u..do not post any photo..u might kill me with the poison...lol
u can find sony in quite a few places...orchard road there have a few...Jurong Point located at BoonLay has one too..u can find them from Sony Singapore website if i not wrong....but like what HKHK said..ur only chance is to take alook at Comex IT fair..probably sony have better offer there..if u looking at normal price in sony retail shop..don even bother...just imagine 70200 street price here is close to 3k SGD or more... Ryzan dude...after u bought ur 70200..pls do not post any photo here...i warn u..do not post any photo..u might kill me with the poison...lol
coz my el-cheapo siggy 70300 dun haf APO... last time i research wat is it actually.. from my understanding.....
the sensor capture the images in 3 different color RGB.. and each color has its own wavelength.. as it is in wave form... it travel at different speed to reach the sensor...
if ur lens dun haf APO correction... the image later on will looks like all 3 color fall not on the same spot.. easier to notice at newspaper ker... when they print the image different ink doesnt match the previous ink place..
err.... got wat i meant ar bro??
hehehe... got it... so, that's what APO means... but good thing the beercan has better image ... coz might be getting that instead...
Added on September 9, 2009, 3:39 pm
QUOTE(enji @ Sep 9 2009, 02:52 PM)
Hello, am planning to get Sony Alpha. A fren of mine offered to sell off his alpha a300 with the price of RM1.6k, with 1 18-70mm lense, few months old. Worth to have it or should got for a new one?
I was thinking of maybe getting Alpha a350. Your advice is much appreciated. TQ!!
if your reason to get an a350 is because of the 14megapixel, then I'd say, get the a300... you can use the extra money to get a flash... rite2?
This post has been edited by Braynumb: Sep 9 2009, 03:39 PM
get a used 55-200...price shud be 400~500 only... if u can afford a 70200G, might as well buy SP90 liao..(for macro) If got more money to spend, u can try
Sigma 150mm f/2.8 or Sigma 105mm f/2.8..
it gives better MFD which is easier for bug shot so u dont scare them:) Tamron 90m f/2.8 at 1:1 MFD = 29cm Sigma 105mm f/2.8 at 1:1 MFD = 31cm Sigma 150mm f/2.8 at 1:1 MFD = 38cm Sigma 180mm f/3.5 at 1:1 MFD = 46 cm
Those who have 70-200 just need to buy a 77mm Close Up filter. A lot of books written by pros oso use the same thing. Scott Kelby is 1 of them.
QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Sep 9 2009, 01:16 PM)
achew: any super BIG sony style in SG? or any place to recommend for DSLR shopping? I will be there next week:) thanks
U shud go to the Sony Style at Orchard Central. Gigantic shop n very nice place. Look here to see- Orchard Central
Hello, am planning to get Sony Alpha. A fren of mine offered to sell off his alpha a300 with the price of RM1.6k, with 1 18-70mm lense, few months old. Worth to have it or should got for a new one?
I was thinking of maybe getting Alpha a350. Your advice is much appreciated. TQ!!
original 1st hand set at shop can get: >> Sony A300 + 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM18xx if the seller is trusted person... then go ahead la if u dun mind using 2nd hand set...
i dun really recommend u A350 coz the only different from A300 is the megapixel.. same sensor + everything.. which means same sensor but need to cater more pixels... a little bit of quality issue from noise yada yada yada... and also affect the speed..
oh..good idea..go for a new one or 2nd hand will do?
price diff between A300 n A350 is around RM400... save it to buy flash or new lens la.. if buy 2nd hand (as long as it still in almost perfect condition) then can save summore...
ps: trust me.. u need flash rather than new lens.. go for highest end flash if u can afford..!
price diff between A300 n A350 is around RM400... save it to buy flash or new lens la.. if buy 2nd hand (as long as it still in almost perfect condition) then can save summore...
ps: trust me.. u need flash rather than new lens.. go for highest end flash if u can afford..!
hehe, okok, i'll talk to my fren again and try to chop the price...he also offered another lense and flash, maybe i'll just ask him whole package will be how much. Thanks!
hehe, okok, i'll talk to my fren again and try to chop the price...he also offered another lense and flash, maybe i'll just ask him whole package will be how much. Thanks!
have try to A230 ? ( note : there is no live view ) ,but u can save budget to enhance lense n flash
hehe, okok, i'll talk to my fren again and try to chop the price...he also offered another lense and flash, maybe i'll just ask him whole package will be how much. Thanks!
ur fren upgrading or jumpship?? try to get free memory card too.. LOL n as a gentle reminder... make sure all cables are in the package.. usually cable from camera to TV is missing if buying 2nd hand.. they usually only give cable to pc to transfer file..
Guys please help me out here....where can get the cobra at the lowest price apart from photo miami? they r out of stock and i need the flash urgently....sos!
ur fren upgrading or jumpship?? try to get free memory card too.. LOL n as a gentle reminder... make sure all cables are in the package.. usually cable from camera to TV is missing if buying 2nd hand.. they usually only give cable to pc to transfer file..
ps: warm welcome to the orange world!
u mean got including HDMI cable with new set ? ya, already get foc SDHC class 2 memory card..
QUOTE(enji @ Sep 9 2009, 03:57 PM)
Tried on A200 before. Nice feel holding in my hand..
but hard to find A200 in new package, tats y i get A230+18~55mm
This post has been edited by popfish: Sep 9 2009, 04:14 PM
No la. Was browsing through FTZ then saw the ad ma. So faster post it up here lo. Just call and say you offer slightly higher lo if you really want it. (:
No la. Was browsing through FTZ then saw the ad ma. So faster post it up here lo. Just call and say you offer slightly higher lo if you really want it. (:
I already sms him an offer...see can kena or not! If kena, i straight go collect it afta this....hahahahahaha.....
aiyaks.. moo and mllenia: never said earlier.. i went to cod for the 75-300 during lunch time.. >.<.. samore at serdang.. same guy who sold me his cam.. gave me a cpl for it as well =P.. but hor.. no hood..
btw for the a300. I bought my a300 for RM1470. 2nd hand with kitlens, 4gb cf and he threw in a cheepo canon cam bag.. the bag not bad.. nice padding.. but i used the padding for diy bag adi..
This post has been edited by lildaredevil906: Sep 9 2009, 05:28 PM
aiyaa...that guy abit susah la...people offer him more also, he reluctant!...takpa lah...
aiya melv, some areas sell the flash at RM1100. Max cheapest i think from other areas maybe 1150. At times square below the sony center at bts theres a cam shop. Forget the name adi.. they offered be 1150. When i tell them i wanna pay cash, they say they can reduce the price abit more.
i think not worth it la if u buy 2nd hand for 920 with no warranty, or with a few months warranty. top up extra 100 can get NEW!! no one touch that baby before. I think i like to touch new stuff.. especially for flash.. If u talking about lens.. i no $$ to get new lens.. so touch 2nd hand lens also happy..
aiya melv, some areas sell the flash at RM1100. Max cheapest i think from other areas maybe 1150. At times square below the sony center at bts theres a cam shop. Forget the name adi.. they offered be 1150. When i tell them i wanna pay cash, they say they can reduce the price abit more.
i think not worth it la if u buy 2nd hand for 920 with no warranty, or with a few months warranty. top up extra 100 can get NEW!! no one touch that baby before. I think i like to touch new stuff.. especially for flash.. If u talking about lens.. i no $$ to get new lens.. so touch 2nd hand lens also happy..
Did a pano on the gallery. Attended a gallery with bunch of photog with albnok and kj. Meet Azrul at there also ppl showing his black & white picture nice nice.
waHhlau where got sell my baby 135mm .... nicholas got sell last time and somebody buy it already .
hehehe... that's why I was wondering... if I have that Baby also I wouldn't even think of selling... let alone look at other brands anymore... hahahaha...
well i guess 850 should be ready by Oct right???any bro in KL mind to help me do a survey on the pricing for 850+2470 from the shops??lol...im not that familiar with KL..might book a pair of ticket n visit there during Oct...had to shop my camera fast and give the rest of the trip for my gf to shop for her stuff..lol..u know..when it comes to shopping...time is nv enough for girls..
i got buyer for my cam..will sell it on early october...need to find replacement...if a550 kuar lambt lagi, need to hunt for a700, if still available by that time,
hopefully there will be a700 user upgrade to a850..
u wanna sell urs?
This post has been edited by hafeez71: Sep 9 2009, 10:54 PM
yep is ok..but i tell you..don save the 300 bucks...get the cobra straight...listen to me..haha..sony has the cheapest flash. F42 a bit stiff when changing the angle and also the recharging sound is annoying. LOL
yep is ok..but i tell you..don save the 300 bucks...get the cobra straight...listen to me..haha..sony has the cheapest flash. F42 a bit stiff when changing the angle and also the recharging sound is annoying. LOL
Added on September 10, 2009, 12:41 am oh demn... i forgot to lend u mine.. someone else oso brought theirs ka? mine was inside my bag.. forgotten edi..
guy on the left pinjamed someones blower and helped me clean it .. in alphanatics, they call him Black? hmph i cant remember his forum name.. saw it somewhere.. hehe alot of new faces, hard to link them to their lyn names =P
guy on the left pinjamed someones blower and helped me clean it .. in alphanatics, they call him Black? hmph i cant remember his forum name.. saw it somewhere.. hehe alot of new faces, hard to link them to their lyn names =P
sometimes he post here oso... the nick is marushin.... or some people call him black... mater poisoner.. careful ar.. LOL
Added on September 10, 2009, 12:49 am
QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Sep 10 2009, 12:43 AM)
Yala din. Busy gay gay surely la forgotten. Wow the 50mm f1.8 seriously NOT BAD wei. (:
i love it at F2.0 demn geng la..better from F1.8
This post has been edited by dingenius3: Sep 10 2009, 12:49 AM
lol, today he didnt put much poison, cept for the f58.. but f58 memang gonna get it di.. but hanafi's poison is much more stronger.. 2 months later youll see me holding a 50mm adi.. lol
crazy man, the a900 can do with 50mm
This post has been edited by lildaredevil906: Sep 10 2009, 12:55 AM
Yala din. Busy gay gay surely la forgotten. Wow the 50mm f1.8 seriously NOT BAD wei. (:
50mm1.8 really not bad? I saw previously someone said that the picture taken by this lens is not sharp is wide aperture. And i'm thinking of buying this lens or Minolta 50mm f1.7
50mm1.8 really not bad? I saw previously someone said that the picture taken by this lens is not sharp is wide aperture. And i'm thinking of buying this lens or Minolta 50mm f1.7
really seriously not bad... the pics very dreamy.. got ohm in it..
Just to let u Orange kakis know. Photomarathon 2009 is now open for registration. Event is on 10th October. Grand Prize is a 1 week all expenses paid trip to Japan where u will attend a Photo Workshop.
lol, today he didnt put much poison, cept for the f58.. but f58 memang gonna get it di.. but hanafi's poison is much more stronger.. 2 months later youll see me holding a 50mm adi.. lol
Sony 3Gs! 5 A900s in one TT (but no group picture, because the 4th A900 was still in the box and the 5th A900 came later.)
nickilala: The beercan is worth it. I like your umbrella shot, with the colors and everything!
mcline_007: Whoa, 0.5 seconds? You could use ISO400 and F3.2 and get 1/8s at least...
Braynumb: APO means that the lens has one or more apochromatic elements, which reduces chromatic aberration. Minolta and Sigma lenses have the APO designation but Sony lenses do not so you'd have to Google to find out if it does.
dingenius3: That is a genius description for APO!
Seng_Kiat: The Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM is a full-frame lens. It's half the weight of the Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM and subtle.
AlphaBeta: I kinda miss the whirring sound of the F42 - it lets you know that you need to give it a break (pump up ISO/choose brighter aperture). Also you kinda get the idea when the flash is ready.
syukur2931: Studio Zaloon will have it Thursday morning!
Kul | Mo0: We shall have another TT soon - this time somewhere PJ or Hartamas lah. Sights to see? A850.
amadeo: Please update the price list!
Sony A850 body only - RM61xx (well, until the price is stable we update again since it's not exactly out yet)
lildaredevil906: Black = marushin.
finalfantasty: The Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM is sharp wide open. The depth of field is shallow, though.
Nice TT!~ i wan to join too~ i think next one will not missed...
Wow the 3gs sure is huge. i can roughly imagine why d vg can really help when goes with such a big lens.. sure tired holding it vertically without the vg
Seng_Kiat: That is certainly DRO's effect! (Which is why we keep saying, keep DRO off unless you are outdoors and shooting ISO200...)
Try this in Photoshop. Load this picture, adjust levels and change the middle slider from 1.0 to 0.72. Then edit Hue/Saturation/Lightness, pick the Reds channel, set Lightness to +48 and Saturation to +25.
Seng_Kiat: That is certainly DRO's effect! (Which is why we keep saying, keep DRO off unless you are outdoors and shooting ISO200...)
Try this in Photoshop. Load this picture, adjust levels and change the middle slider from 1.0 to 0.72. Then edit Hue/Saturation/Lightness, pick the Reds channel, set Lightness to +48 and Saturation to +25.
ah damn it .. .. it was off before but why today my hand gatal to turn it on at level 3 . damn it .. damn it .. ..
so conclusion, DRO cannot be used at all for this kind of shoot? only use when outdoor? right? ..
Added on September 10, 2009, 4:10 amthanks albnok for pp advise .. at least, it abit better when i tried it .. ..
This post has been edited by Seng_Kiat: Sep 10 2009, 04:10 AM
50mm1.8 really not bad? I saw previously someone said that the picture taken by this lens is not sharp is wide aperture. And i'm thinking of buying this lens or Minolta 50mm f1.7
iinm all 50mm at wide open are not that sharp ler... need to be step down a bit at least 1 stop...
Added on September 10, 2009, 5:43 am
QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 10 2009, 03:16 AM)
Kul | Mo0: We shall have another TT soon - this time somewhere PJ or Hartamas lah. Sights to see? A850.
WOW weee~~
This post has been edited by dingenius3: Sep 10 2009, 05:43 AM
Nice TT!~ i wan to join too~ i think next one will not missed...
Wow the 3gs sure is huge. i can roughly imagine why d vg can really help when goes with such a big lens.. sure tired holding it vertically without the vg
yea clive, it'll be cool to meet and learn from ya
aiya melv, some areas sell the flash at RM1100. Max cheapest i think from other areas maybe 1150. At times square below the sony center at bts theres a cam shop. Forget the name adi.. they offered be 1150. When i tell them i wanna pay cash, they say they can reduce the price abit more.
i think not worth it la if u buy 2nd hand for 920 with no warranty, or with a few months warranty. top up extra 100 can get NEW!! no one touch that baby before. I think i like to touch new stuff.. especially for flash.. If u talking about lens.. i no $$ to get new lens.. so touch 2nd hand lens also happy..
ya, the other when i survey in lowyat and sg.wang plaza....got few shops offer RM1100....but looks like the diffuser hard to get...anyone know where to get diffuser for the cobra...???
Added on September 10, 2009, 8:34 am
QUOTE(lildaredevil906 @ Sep 9 2009, 06:22 PM)
oo new one?
ya new one....he has a shop....pm him for more info!
Added on September 10, 2009, 8:37 am
QUOTE(achew @ Sep 9 2009, 10:11 PM)
bro u r being too humble...lol... well i guess 850 should be ready by Oct right???any bro in KL mind to help me do a survey on the pricing for 850+2470 from the shops??lol...im not that familiar with KL..might book a pair of ticket n visit there during Oct...had to shop my camera fast and give the rest of the trip for my gf to shop for her stuff..lol..u know..when it comes to shopping...time is nv enough for girls..
I saw it in sony center midvalley yest! It looks awesome! But didn't have time to check it out properly!
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Sony 3Gs! 5 A900s in one TT (but no group picture, because the 4th A900 was still in the box and the 5th A900 came later.)
sorry bro.. was late... nice to finally meet some of the crew.. especially Albnok.. learn couple of tips... + bonus of wife scolding for coming home so late... hehehe
sorry bro.. was late... nice to finally meet some of the crew.. especially Albnok.. learn couple of tips... + bonus of wife scolding for coming home so late... hehehe
hey guys, just a quick question. I am deciding to get an Alpha or Canon. But not too sure? Any suggestion? Thanks.
You ask In Sony Alpha thread, you get Sony Alpha Answer... You ask In Canon Thread, you get Canon answer... best thing is, you go to any camera shop, and test out the cameras you're interested in, feel it's weight in your hand, it's feature, and function... then you can decide... don't just go for what other people say....
i am looking to buy a dslr and looking at the A300 vs A330. I read that the A300 although older model is much better than the newer A330....eg. A300 better built quality, better ergonomics and more direct button access as oppose to menu driven. Can someone advise on this?
You ask In Sony Alpha thread, you get Sony Alpha Answer... You ask In Canon Thread, you get Canon answer... best thing is, you go to any camera shop, and test out the cameras you're interested in, feel it's weight in your hand, it's feature, and function... then you can decide... don't just go for what other people say....
but we can try limit their choices of gear to choose from la... in the end he still need to make the choice..
see his reply first... budget n what he wanna shoot..
i am looking to buy a dslr and looking at the A300 vs A330. I read that the A300 although older model is much better than the newer A330....eg. A300 better built quality, better ergonomics and more direct button access as oppose to menu driven. Can someone advise on this?
My advice is, get the a300...
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QUOTE(dingenius3 @ Sep 10 2009, 10:20 AM)
but we can try limit their choices of gear to choose from la... in the end he still need to make the choice..
see his reply first... budget n what he wanna shoot..
ok ok... hehehe...
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i am looking to buy a dslr and looking at the A300 vs A330. I read that the A300 although older model is much better than the newer A330....eg. A300 better built quality, better ergonomics and more direct button access as oppose to menu driven. Can someone advise on this?
i can say u r 99% correct.. LOL... haf u seen A300 n A330 before?
for me... i hate how they layout the function/button... even though their menu is better now..
A330 quite light n smaller than A300... as for me A300 has better ergonomic coz my hand quite big la..
A330 not really a true successor of A300.. more like an upgrade of a pns camera...
Seng_Kiat: No problem! If you accidentally turn on DRO you can use similiar steps to reduce the DRO effect. When you adjust the middle slider in Levels to a darker level, it has a nice side effect of reducing noise.
i tak pernah buat postage.. if u want, let me know which service u prefer (registered), and i'll quote accordingly..
RM5350 + postage... but full payment before i can send.
Added on September 10, 2009, 10:41 am
QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 10 2009, 10:37 AM)
Seng_Kiat: No problem! If you accidentally turn on DRO you can use similiar steps to reduce the DRO effect. When you adjust the middle slider in Levels to a darker level, it has a nice side effect of reducing noise.
usually i set DRO to level 1 or 2 max... even for indoor shooting at ISO400... and adjust levels in lightroom...
DRO >3 not advisable at all for indoor shooting...
This post has been edited by MemorableStudios: Sep 10 2009, 10:41 AM
i can say u r 99% correct.. LOL... haf u seen A300 n A330 before?
for me... i hate how they layout the function/button... even though their menu is better now..
A330 quite light n smaller than A300... as for me A300 has better ergonomic coz my hand quite big la..
A330 not really a true successor of A300.. more like an upgrade of a pns camera...
go try it out both bro...
for me, I tested out the a230... honestly, I fell in love with the weight... holding it in my hands were quite nice... so, for me, the weight and design is ok... but I haven't gone into the functions yet, so, I'm not quite sure if I want to comment on it yet... but weight and hand test wise, I'm ok with it... but somehow, not too sure about it being suitable when I want to mount any 70-200 lens on it...or any big sized lens on it... just afraid I might break the damn thing...
might get it for my wife though... then can share with her the the 18-55 SAM lens... hehehe... somehow fell in love with the lens's IQ... quite nice... can't wait till the SAL2875 comes out... wanna check out the price... if it's cheap enough, will be in my shopping list next year...
i can say u r 99% correct.. LOL... haf u seen A300 n A330 before?
for me... i hate how they layout the function/button... even though their menu is better now..
A330 quite light n smaller than A300... as for me A300 has better ergonomic coz my hand quite big la..
A330 not really a true successor of A300.. more like an upgrade of a pns camera...
go try it out both bro...
I have try both out before but not at the same time. Anyway, its my first time foray into the slr world so I am not to sure the difference. What i do know is that i prefer more manual button to access features rather thru menu, and i hate picture noise, and i want fast performance(no more PNS), if possible HD video mode.
if you want HD video mode, then don't bother going for either a300 or a330... coz neither has it... if you want more manual buttons, get the a300.. picture noise wise is easier... stay below ISO800 with any camera...
if you want HD video mode, then don't bother going for either a300 or a330... coz neither has it... if you want more manual buttons, get the a300.. picture noise wise is easier... stay below ISO800 with any camera...
those are my $0.02... hehehe...
Is there anything similar to the A300 in performance and price that offers HD video recording too or do i have to pay significantly higher price just to get video recording? I am really interested in the Panasonic GH-1(not sure i got the model correct) but i heard its really expensive.
Honestly, none of the Sony Alpha cameras have HD Video recording... None that I know of la... if you seriously want to get camera's with HD Video, then you can try some of the newer Nikons or Canons... most of them have HD Videos...
Honestly, none of the Sony Alpha cameras have HD Video recording... None that I know of la... if you seriously want to get camera's with HD Video, then you can try some of the newer Nikons or Canons... most of them have HD Videos...
Ok...but those Nikons and Canon with HD movies...are they much more expensive or same price range? Any particular model?
The reason I wanted the A300 is because its of its price which is about RM1900 now.
not sure what's the price... but should be around 2-3K++... can check out the price here wcs2798's Thread... for reference la... coz somehow, it's a bit more expensive for us here in Sarawak.
or check this out...
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Added on September 10, 2009, 11:34 amGoing out to pay for my beercan! yeazeeeeeee!
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@moo: waahh... go start a thread in alphanatics la bro....
@emi: wahhh.... good try la dey kichii~ just a bit blue-ish... AWB ka?
@albnok: hey bro... sorry i didnt haf the chance to actually said my very very very thank you to u for lending me ur IR filter.. now i know la i dun need it.. but maybe later i want it oso if haf enuff budget... next year ka.. then i'll buy a 77mm thread 1.. and few stepdown ring
@emi: wahhh.... good try la dey kichii~ just a bit blue-ish... AWB ka?<----- Can see blueish ahh...?? i think so la AWB .... blum master lagi ma.. ini pun blum habis korek the functions... bit stuck at WB thingy
[quote=MechaHerc,Sep 10 2009, 11:51 AM] supposed to be kak mie? <-- anything also can... kak emi or emi... hahaha.. y ingat i ah boy ka??
kaler not very vibrant.. try adjust the vivid setting at creatives menu.. i think this option have at A330 too is it?<---- masa ni 2nd day got the cammy.. apa pun blum set... manual also read halfway only.. gatal tangan already... didnt set vivid or what ever setting... will improve on that.... thanks...
This post has been edited by mie_75: Sep 10 2009, 11:59 AM
@moo: waahh... go start a thread in alphanatics la bro....
@emi: wahhh.... good try la dey kichii~ just a bit blue-ish... AWB ka?
@albnok: hey bro... sorry i didnt haf the chance to actually said my very very very thank you to u for lending me ur IR filter.. now i know la i dun need it.. but maybe later i want it oso if haf enuff budget... next year ka.. then i'll buy a 77mm thread 1.. and few stepdown ring
guys,
is it recommended if i just get myself a 77mm filter and use on all lenses with stepdown ring? does it affect anything like more fragile, etc? ..
[quote=mie_75,Sep 10 2009, 11:58 AM] [quote=MechaHerc,Sep 10 2009, 11:51 AM] supposed to be kak mie? <-- anything also can... kak emi or emi... hahaha.. y ingat i ah boy ka??
kaler not very vibrant.. try adjust the vivid setting at creatives menu.. i think this option have at A330 too is it?<---- masa ni 2nd day got the cammy.. apa pun blum set... manual also read halfway only.. gatal tangan already... didnt set vivid or what ever setting... will improve on that.... thanks...
[/quote] oo baru 2 hari rupenye.. hehe.. u also can up the saturation abit in photoshop later if, u know ....sumtime we can forget to set the setting earlier.. hehe
u can find sony in quite a few places...orchard road there have a few...Jurong Point located at BoonLay has one too..u can find them from Sony Singapore website if i not wrong....but like what HKHK said..ur only chance is to take alook at Comex IT fair..probably sony have better offer there..if u looking at normal price in sony retail shop..don even bother...just imagine 70200 street price here is close to 3k SGD or more... Ryzan dude...after u bought ur 70200..pls do not post any photo here...i warn u..do not post any photo..u might kill me with the poison...lol
QUOTE(ianho @ Sep 9 2009, 03:39 PM)
Those who have 70-200 just need to buy a 77mm Close Up filter. A lot of books written by pros oso use the same thing. Scott Kelby is 1 of them. U shud go to the Sony Style at Orchard Central. Gigantic shop n very nice place. Look here to see- Orchard Central
jb here don have this thing and cant even order.... damn...
btw...can share with us the comment for this baby.. i wish to get it on my next month trip... but just searched info that some of the pp really don have magnify feeling when they install it on a3x0 series...
At yesterday's(09/09/09) mego TT at Pelita Restaurant near KLCC , albnok has suggested that a TT to be held at Hartamas area. Since TTs has always been held at either in KL areas or PJ areas , he said why not have the next TT at the middle of PJ and KL and for once be fair for him. So how about a TT at hartamas? There surely got more chickas to , you know , skodeng-skodeng. (:
Date : 18th September 2009 (Friday) Time : 7PM? Venue : Hartamas Square (something like hawkers) or Lepaq (a nice lepak and chill out spot)
my budget is around rm2 to 3k. i m just a beginner to dslr camera. i m looking for camera that are not that hard to use but yet able to cope when i am more experience. I know a230 and a330 are quite friendly for a beginner but i am worried it limits me when i need more out of it.
my budget is around rm2 to 3k. i m just a beginner to dslr camera. i m looking for camera that are not that hard to use but yet able to cope when i am more experience. I know a230 and a330 are quite friendly for a beginner but i am worried it limits me when i need more out of it.
or u can wait for A5xx series....better grip and bigger screen...
my budget is around rm2 to 3k. i m just a beginner to dslr camera. i m looking for camera that are not that hard to use but yet able to cope when i am more experience. I know a230 and a330 are quite friendly for a beginner but i am worried it limits me when i need more out of it.
best if you look around.. now you have a budget, check out the models that fits in.. then check out the reviews (dpreview), trim down your selection.. and finally go to a camera shop for a field test...
my budget is around rm2 to 3k. i m just a beginner to dslr camera. i m looking for camera that are not that hard to use but yet able to cope when i am more experience. I know a230 and a330 are quite friendly for a beginner but i am worried it limits me when i need more out of it.
mie_75: Eh you have the A330 and not the A230? You can (and should) use Live View to adjust WB. Really helps!
hehehe... never said it was cheap... just wanted to show how much difference when the HD Video function was added in a camera... seriously, I prefer a camera that is just a camera...
my new 16105, feel wanted to faint n vomit after looking at it...
eh... weird... mine doesn't do that... something wrong with your lens... bought 1st or 2nd hand?
QUOTE(lightning69 @ Sep 10 2009, 01:25 PM)
If I buy the A300, what lens is recommended if I am into portrait and macro photography? How much?
Actually depends on your budget... how much are you willing to spend? coz seriously, the sky is the limit... but i'd sugest you to get a flash 1st la... seriously... you need a flash 1st...
QUOTE(bigturbine @ Sep 10 2009, 01:28 PM)
my budget is around rm2 to 3k. i m just a beginner to dslr camera. i m looking for camera that are not that hard to use but yet able to cope when i am more experience. I know a230 and a330 are quite friendly for a beginner but i am worried it limits me when i need more out of it.
then either go for the a200 or a300... seriously, for me, that's all you really need... and later, you can just expand from there... but do make sure your next purchase is a flash...
QUOTE(ahtsong @ Sep 10 2009, 02:22 PM)
pic spam from my Sigma 10-20
Kinda over exposed isn't it? or maybe it's just me? hmm...
Added on September 10, 2009, 2:44 pmneed to ask everyone here... who has used a raynox on a 16105 before??
This post has been edited by Braynumb: Sep 10 2009, 02:44 PM
Braynumb: No I meant that the Nikon leaflet is higher price than normal street price heh.
countdracula: That is rather weird distortion, but to avoid this you need to stand further away and zoom in a bit, or stand higher a bit and point at it straight on instead of tilting slightly up!
finally cured myself from the "pixel peeping disease"...
now more confidence in shooting ISO400-1600... before this ISO200 only,,,
Same problem with me for d first few months i got my A100... i only shoot at iso 100-200... then 400 (most commonly use)... then 800 when no choice... 1600 used ONCE or twice only. then realise.. arr.. it doesnt fullfill my need ... TIME TO CHANGE TO A700 !! hehehehe then hopefully iso 800-3200 will b useable.
QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 10 2009, 11:42 AM)
Braynumb: The Nikon promotion is not cheap!
mie_75: Eh you have the A330 and not the A230? You can (and should) use Live View to adjust WB. Really helps!
wow. Thats very expensive!.. my friend just told me he planning to upgrading to d300s... din know is so expensive~~ can buy A850 oredi
QUOTE(countdracula @ Sep 10 2009, 01:09 PM)
yup, at 16mm. tested it yesterday. the heavy distortion makes me feel sick. something terribly wrong!
wow.. a bit like the 18-70 kit lens... but can easily adjust in photoshop under FIlter- Lens Distortion.. very important when shooting interior /architectural photos. Thats why UWA is needed hehee.
QUOTE(Ahmike @ Sep 10 2009, 01:14 PM)
remember to get the cz135mm f1.8 also.. you will get overdose
Ahmike releasing poison~~~~~greater than swineflu
QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Sep 10 2009, 01:28 PM)
Ah sorry boss. Wont do that again. So anyway.
At yesterday's(09/09/09) mego TT at Pelita Restaurant near KLCC , albnok has suggested that a TT to be held at Hartamas area. Since TTs has always been held at either in KL areas or PJ areas , he said why not have the next TT at the middle of PJ and KL and for once be fair for him. So how about a TT at hartamas? There surely got more chickas to , you know , skodeng-skodeng. (:
Date : 18th September 2009 (Friday) Time : 7PM? Venue : Hartamas Square (something like hawkers) or Lepaq (a nice lepak and chill out spot)
Attendance : 1)Mo0 2)CLIVE 3)
I want in this time for sure! Hartamas square not a bad place to hang out.
QUOTE(bigturbine @ Sep 10 2009, 01:28 PM)
my budget is around rm2 to 3k. i m just a beginner to dslr camera. i m looking for camera that are not that hard to use but yet able to cope when i am more experience. I know a230 and a330 are quite friendly for a beginner but i am worried it limits me when i need more out of it.
I wan to promote my A100 again...
QUOTE(ahtsong @ Sep 10 2009, 01:37 PM)
tamron SP90 will serve u well around RM1500+-
I know that sp90 is famous for shooting "insect portrait" ... how it performs for Potrait/ candid shots?? F2.8?
QUOTE(Poadster @ Sep 10 2009, 02:16 PM)
Damn... does this mean i have to let go of my F42 to upgrade to a cobra??
Pls share the benefits of a cobra, newbie to Alpha and DSLR here....
only know it can rotate the head like cobra left n right .. good when shooting potrait.. other benefit im oso curious...
Braynumb: No I meant that the Nikon leaflet is higher price than normal street price heh.
countdracula: That is rather weird distortion, but to avoid this you need to stand further away and zoom in a bit, or stand higher a bit and point at it straight on instead of tilting slightly up!
oooo... then I'm not sure... hehehe...
QUOTE(ahtsong @ Sep 10 2009, 02:54 PM)
is it??? maybe i need to calibrate my LCD...anyone else have the same feeling? how about this?
I dunno... somehow seem like the contrast is just too high... kinda makes the pic too dark...
hehehe...i think it's because you wanted to show the clouds in the sky as well, so you pumped up the contrast and lower the EV... picture is nice... don't get me wrong... just the PP was done wrongly... should ask Sifu achew on tips with PP... hehehe
hehehe...i think it's because you wanted to show the clouds in the sky as well, so you pumped up the contrast and lower the EV... picture is nice... don't get me wrong... just the PP was done wrongly... should ask Sifu achew on tips with PP... hehehe
the 1st pic...i think i purposely over exposure abit to show the background...for the 2nd one, i do agree i over-cooked it....thx anyway
Actually depends on your budget... how much are you willing to spend? coz seriously, the sky is the limit... but i'd sugest you to get a flash 1st la... seriously... you need a flash 1st...
A good flash is sure handy sometimes, but I think i would be better of with a good lens.
clivengu: That's actually how much the D300 was when it first came out.
So, online, people asked:
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Now here's a question for you, though: if you didn't have a camera or lenses already nor a spot of brand loyalty either way, and you had the money in your pocket, which would you choose: a $1700 (Canon) 7D or a $2000 (Sony) A850?
Don't answer the question. See what these people have to comment:
Added on September 10, 2009, 3:29 pmahtsong: the jumping shot seems ok to me
Added on September 10, 2009, 3:30 pm actually it depends when do you shoot more often. ...indoors i would say flash...outdoors u can live without a flash:)
That is exactly what i think of. I don't really like flash photography. I would prefer using natural light. To me great photography is more creativity than the hardware itself.
That is exactly what i think of. I don't really like flash photography. I would prefer using natural light. To me great photography is more creativity than the hardware itself.
then how do u handle back lighting situation? and when u shoot during the noon time.....
can see A850 is really affordable FF (though not affordable by me... unless i earn from photography) even A900 oso affordable.
QUOTE(ahtsong @ Sep 10 2009, 03:24 PM)
sorry guys...one more pic to share here for getting ur comment is my shoot over-cooked with high contrast...thx
my preferences... i think is a bit over saturated... or the Red r too much.. check d skin tone. is obvious it has been through PP. personally i prefer a more Natural colour with minimun PP.... just my 2cents
This post has been edited by clivengu: Sep 10 2009, 04:03 PM
can see 850 D is really affordable FF (though not affordable by me... unless i earn from photography) even A900 oso affordable. my preferences... i think is a bit over saturated... or the Red r too much.. check d skin tone. is obvious it has been through PP. personally i prefer a more Natural colour with minimun PP.... just my 2cents
have to agree here... too overcooked.. too much contrast bro... you need to keep the skin tones more towards the natural color...
can see A850 is really affordable FF (though not affordable by me... unless i earn from photography) even A900 oso affordable. my preferences... i think is a bit over saturated... or the Red r too much.. check d skin tone. is obvious it has been through PP. personally i prefer a more Natural colour with minimun PP.... just my 2cents
QUOTE(Braynumb @ Sep 10 2009, 04:03 PM)
have to agree here... too overcooked.. too much contrast bro... you need to keep the skin tones more towards the natural color...
thanks you very much....ur comment make me open up and know where to focus one...actually i shoot using vivid color and adjust the level only...din touch the saturation and contrast setting....
should i use Std mode instead of vivid???
Added on September 10, 2009, 4:07 pmor is the sigma color? being as more red??? sorry 1st time using sigma lens
This post has been edited by ahtsong: Sep 10 2009, 04:07 PM
thanks you very much....ur comment make me open up and know where to focus one...actually i shoot using vivid color and adjust the level only...din touch the saturation and contrast setting....
should i use Std mode instead of vivid???
Added on September 10, 2009, 4:07 pmor is the sigma color? being as more red??? sorry 1st time using sigma lens
is really very personalise le.. no right or wrong. some ppl like vivid colour (poster advertising style) some like .. japanese/Taiwan mtv style.. Desaturated greyish tone... Some like as accurate as wat our eyes see... most important is.. UR client happy.. if not shooting for money.. then URSELF happy
Btw ZALOON HVING 850 oredi... who's d first to get it???!!
with the same PP approach...my SAL16105 seems not having the more red issue...vivid style as well...
see this
can anyone tell me is it due to sigma color? or really my PP style...i'm now outside the original file of the jumper shot is not with me now...can only compare when i back.
Woo.. lovely wife. okey back to topic. hahaha. i prefer d colour by the Sal16105. I think tamron lens has a more reddish tone.. but Sigma ... not sure.. nvr try b4...
Btw. it remind me of smthing i wish to ask... if using a tamron lens.. will thr b any Disadvantages when work together with Sonybody + flashgun? like auto White balance not accurate compare to SAL lenses?
thanks you very much....ur comment make me open up and know where to focus one...actually i shoot using vivid color and adjust the level only...din touch the saturation and contrast setting....
should i use Std mode instead of vivid???
Added on September 10, 2009, 4:07 pmor is the sigma color? being as more red??? sorry 1st time using sigma lens
ooo... you should lower your contrast setting for vivid +1 is always good enough for me... saturation I usually leave it 0... that's my settings la...
QUOTE(ahtsong @ Sep 10 2009, 04:13 PM)
with the same PP approach...my SAL16105 seems not having the more red issue...vivid style as well...
see this
can anyone tell me is it due to sigma color? or really my PP style...i'm now outside the original file of the jumper shot is not with me now...can only compare when i back.
thx...and sorry for the pic spam
not sure about sigma's color... never used sigma lenses before... but this image is a bit better color la... hehehe... but still got contrast issue... but nice...
is really very personalise le.. no right or wrong. some ppl like vivid colour (poster advertising style) some like .. japanese/Taiwan mtv style.. Desaturated greyish tone... Some like as accurate as wat our eyes see... most important is.. UR client happy.. if not shooting for money.. then URSELF happy Btw ZALOON HVING 850 oredi... who's d first to get it???!!
Its nice to spend when u have the money. Now I am jobless and flunked an interview. So, I have to wait for quite some time before I can get that a850 lol.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 10 2009, 03:16 AM)
Sony 3Gs! 5 A900s in one TT (but no group picture, because the 4th A900 was still in the box and the 5th A900 came later.)
nickilala: The beercan is worth it. I like your umbrella shot, with the colors and everything!
mcline_007: Whoa, 0.5 seconds? You could use ISO400 and F3.2 and get 1/8s at least...
Braynumb: APO means that the lens has one or more apochromatic elements, which reduces chromatic aberration. Minolta and Sigma lenses have the APO designation but Sony lenses do not so you'd have to Google to find out if it does.
dingenius3: That is a genius description for APO!
Seng_Kiat: The Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM is a full-frame lens. It's half the weight of the Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM and subtle.
AlphaBeta: I kinda miss the whirring sound of the F42 - it lets you know that you need to give it a break (pump up ISO/choose brighter aperture). Also you kinda get the idea when the flash is ready.
syukur2931: Studio Zaloon will have it Thursday morning!
Kul | Mo0: We shall have another TT soon - this time somewhere PJ or Hartamas lah. Sights to see? A850.
amadeo: Please update the price list!
Sony A850 body only - RM61xx (well, until the price is stable we update again since it's not exactly out yet)
lildaredevil906: Black = marushin.
finalfantasty: The Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM is sharp wide open. The depth of field is shallow, though.
hey bro, did you get my pm on the Sony Accessories? most important is the LCS-SC20 bag... I'd go for a850 too... hey albert, do you know anywhere in KL that has stock for the Sony LCS-SC20 bag?
sorry bro, I cannot make money from low priced accessories sale.. items above 3k i still can make a small profit, coz very tough competition out there, and i want to give the lowest price...
But 1 thing la. On APS-C you really must get used to 90mm for portraits la. For me even 50mm abit tight sometimes. Different people different preference la.
Added on September 10, 2009, 5:14 pmNice la albnok! (:
This post has been edited by Kul | Mo0: Sep 10 2009, 05:14 PM
hey millenia, i was teh 1 wanted to buy the cf card from u but ur not around, make me buy from retails at higher price dy....
OH YEA GACKT!!! how are you man!? nice to see ya here... u bought kingston too?
Added on September 10, 2009, 5:32 pmoh yea, kul|moo has got that lens you're askin about he should be able to help ya out... and i think he wants to sell it.... you might be lucky
This post has been edited by millenia3000: Sep 10 2009, 05:32 PM
Eii.. Moo selling the 50mm? Curious brapa banyak? =P aiya this tt cannot join coz it's a Friday.. Do Monday la =P...
I can smell my new accesories di mann.. New cheepo 6million dollar size bag and f58.. Hopefully tomorrow can cod!! Oh my.. I'm getting chills just thinkin about it ..
Eii.. Moo selling the 50mm? Curious brapa banyak? =P aiya this tt cannot join coz it's a Friday.. Do Monday la =P...
I can smell my new accesories di mann.. New cheepo 6million dollar size bag and f58.. Hopefully tomorrow can cod!! Oh my.. I'm getting chills just thinkin about it ..
New cheepo 6million dollar size bag and f58.? <---- mind to share?
New cheepo 6million dollar size bag and f58.? <---- mind to share?
f58 is the cobra.. the flash where u can twist and turn and bend and twist somemore.. After playing with moo's and marushins f20, cobra best man! lol..
the cheepo 6million size bag.. i forgot what brand he mentioned.. but it fits my budget la..im aiming on RM150 - 180 on bag.. im going over to his house tomorrow to cod for a number of things, then might as well go through the available bags for my budget..
f58 is the cobra.. the flash where u can twist and turn and bend and twist somemore.. After playing with moo's and marushins f20, cobra best man! lol..
the cheepo 6million size bag.. i forgot what brand he mentioned.. but it fits my budget la..im aiming on RM150 - 180 on bag.. im going over to his house tomorrow to cod for a number of things, then might as well go through the available bags for my budget..
Wow.. u r on ur shopping spree~~ i wish i can spend like tat hahaa..
f58 is the cobra.. the flash where u can twist and turn and bend and twist somemore.. After playing with moo's and marushins f20, cobra best man! lol..
the cheepo 6million size bag.. i forgot what brand he mentioned.. but it fits my budget la..im aiming on RM150 - 180 on bag.. im going over to his house tomorrow to cod for a number of things, then might as well go through the available bags for my budget..
i wish i can spend like tis too XD i need reviews for f20~ i need it small!
Wow.. u r on ur shopping spree~~ i wish i can spend like tat hahaa..
QUOTE(gacktleong @ Sep 10 2009, 07:15 PM)
i wish i can spend like tis too XD i need reviews for f20~ i need it small!
lol.. i wish i can spend like this too .. my bro just gave me some ang pau for my 21st bday.. so hes sponsoring for my cobra.. lol i keep thinking that way.. if not i sakit hati la.. add up together the accessories 1.4k .. my own salary only sponsored for my 2nd hand lens which is the 75-300. RM 500 with cpl. I wanna die adi lol.. left whole month to survive on RM 50 per week... after this spending spree.. i think i take a rest from buying stuff.. too much cost..
for me i think hobbies leh, shouldnt spend so much.. but here i am spending i think in total 3k already.. as time goes on, i think lenses will keep coming in.. then later body change.. oh my god.. i dont even wanna think of the cost for a new body.. lol
since this camera is stil new..probably we shd share the prices among the shops in jb n kl b4 we make any decision =D
not buying A850. Just booked A700.. I will stay at APS-C for quite sometime before I jump to Full Frame.. I spend over my Credit card limit already. So.. next time la..
only know it can rotate the head like cobra left n right .. good when shooting potrait.. other benefit im oso curious...
Ehhh?? My HVL-F42AM head can be rotated up, down, left and right too ma.... 90degrees to the left and 180 degrees to the right. Only F58 can do this meh??
Sorry, any sifu there can share the great benefits of the F58 as compared to the F42?? Noobie here, wanted to know is there is a need to upgrade to F58?
aiyoo... a700 sony malaysia (the warehouse) sudah clear out.. for months redy.. only can find in shops or direct order from japan...
This is what i get from the shops when i walk around JB last week. 1. shop say no stock, cannot make order 2. 1 shop say can order, If KL no stock, then order from japan, need wait longer 3. 1 shop say, 3 unit left in there shops (a few branches)
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QUOTE(Poadster @ Sep 10 2009, 09:34 PM)
Ehhh?? My HVL-F42AM head can be rotated up, down, left and right too ma.... 90degrees to the left and 180 degrees to the right. Only F58 can do this meh??
Sorry, any sifu there can share the great benefits of the F58 as compared to the F42?? Noobie here, wanted to know is there is a need to upgrade to F58?
This is what i get from the shops when i walk around JB last week. 1. shop say no stock, cannot make order 2. 1 shop say can order, If KL no stock, then order from japan, need wait longer 3. 1 shop say, 3 unit left in there shops (a few branches)
So I book at the 3rd shop.
yeap... even i missed the a700.. waited and waited and waited.. bila mau order, sudah discon.. cisss.. cari kat kedai, out of stock... last-last terbeli A900...
Ehhh?? My HVL-F42AM head can be rotated up, down, left and right too ma.... 90degrees to the left and 180 degrees to the right. Only F58 can do this meh??
Sorry, any sifu there can share the great benefits of the F58 as compared to the F42?? Noobie here, wanted to know is there is a need to upgrade to F58?
u might find it is quite interesting when u can change the head orientation demn quick.. sometime we dun wan to miss the action.. so... just push.. no more pressing button n twist..
if u r the type who is very patient... then no worries... F42 is enuff edi..
Eii.. Moo selling the 50mm? Curious brapa banyak? =P aiya this tt cannot join coz it's a Friday.. Do Monday la =P...
I can smell my new accesories di mann.. New cheepo 6million dollar size bag and f58.. Hopefully tomorrow can cod!! Oh my.. I'm getting chills just thinkin about it ..
Sis, are u getting the Crumpler from KLCC, or do u have a better source?
yeap... even i missed the a700.. waited and waited and waited.. bila mau order, sudah discon.. cisss.. cari kat kedai, out of stock... last-last terbeli A900...
When I goto the 3rd shop. He tried to call to other shop to grap the cam. Call to 1st branch.. the answer is.. The strap is missing.. Then call the 2nd branch,.. no body answer... he promise me to let me know on the next day...
Waited till next day afternoon.. got new stock.
If no stock.. i will hv to pay extra Rm200 and make order from Japan liao.
let me know if u happen to come down jb la...hahaha..if i pay ticket to kl just to buy the camera alone...the cost is almost same as buying here liao..lol...btw buy from u able to convert to the tourist limited warranty thingy?
let me know if u happen to come down jb la...hahaha..if i pay ticket to kl just to buy the camera alone...the cost is almost same as buying here liao..lol...btw buy from u able to convert to the tourist limited warranty thingy?
u might find it is quite interesting when u can change the head orientation demn quick.. sometime we dun wan to miss the action.. so... just push.. no more pressing button n twist..
if u r the type who is very patient... then no worries... F42 is enuff edi..
Thnx, noted that the F42 need to press, and twist rather hard to move the head, sometimes is worried mayb too hard till krak!!!
Mayb i will need to keep using and twisting the F42 to "loosen" the joint locks....
So many people fighting for achew's 1680. LOL. Pro lens from the pro.
so does it makes my lens more expensive??muahahaha..if thats so..i dont mind to accept this compliment
QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 10 2009, 10:06 PM)
achew, i'll be going s'pore probably in october.. can meet up! or maybe... just maybe.. COD, wahahhahahha
alpha buddies always in my priority list....i hvn do price check yet...if u hav a price in mind..just keep me updated...pm or msn or wadever way u can find me =)
Sig, how much did u get it for?? Will be in Pav tomorrow, may drop into Sony Style there.....
How is the IQ?? Is it better than having 2 lens (as u are letting go yr kit lenses)??
Deciding if to get the 18250 + 50mm to replace the lens kits (1870 and 55200), care to share yr exp??
the IQ is definitely better... and 50mm f1.8 is a nice portrait lens..so go ahead..make sure u get the street price instead of the sky high retail price of Sony.
Sig, how much did u get it for?? Will be in Pav tomorrow, may drop into Sony Style there.....
How is the IQ?? Is it better than having 2 lens (as u are letting go yr kit lenses)??
Deciding if to get the 18250 + 50mm to replace the lens kits (1870 and 55200), care to share yr exp??
i bought a used one.. so it's pretty cheap la
from my exp (be informed that i only have this lens bout 1 week so haven't fully tested it yet properly), the IQ is sharper than the 1870 on the wider side.. but on the tele end, it's about the same as 55200.. and u'll get an extra 50mm reach with it.. also it eliminates the hassle of changing lens..
it also have internal focusing and so u'll get a petal hood.. really handsome one (if that really matter to you )
18250 and 50mm is a nice combo.. so far it really works for me.. UWA is a bonus.. so i can cover 11-250mm with just 2 lens
Ehhh?? My HVL-F42AM head can be rotated up, down, left and right too ma.... 90degrees to the left and 180 degrees to the right. Only F58 can do this meh??
Sorry, any sifu there can share the great benefits of the F58 as compared to the F42?? Noobie here, wanted to know is there is a need to upgrade to F58?
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the IQ is definitely better... and 50mm f1.8 is a nice portrait lens..so go ahead..make sure u get the street price instead of the sky high retail price of Sony.
Any idea what is the street price?? wcs2798 was selling it a RM490, now its RM500...
You mean get both the 16105 and 50mm f1.7 from u???
Any comments on the IQ between the Minolta 50mm and the SAL50mm??
no la...i won sell my 16105...as i love it...only selling 50mm
i previously own a 18200, but not 18250 b4...i know 18250 is sharper than 18200, but i after using 18200 for travel, i feel that i seldom use the tele end but use the wide end more..
16mm is very nice to use...u can see my travel blog (like under my sig) all using 16105 and 50mm mainly for food.
i din own a SAL50 1.8 b4, so i cannot compare the color
from my exp (be informed that i only have this lens bout 1 week so haven't fully tested it yet properly), the IQ is sharper than the 1870 on the wider side.. but on the tele end, it's about the same as 55200.. and u'll get an extra 50mm reach with it.. also it eliminates the hassle of changing lens..
it also have internal focusing and so u'll get a petal hood.. really handsome one (if that really matter to you )
18250 and 50mm is a nice combo.. so far it really works for me.. UWA is a bonus.. so i can cover 11-250mm with just 2 lens
Cool... was using a Fujifilm S100FS, loved the 28-400mm (35mm equiv.) zoom. Now getting used to the hassle of changing lens when i need to get closer, and still find it not as close to the 400mm in the past.
Was contemplating on getting a 2X tele-converter, doesnt that double the zoom of the 55200 to 400 (or 600mm in 35 mm terms)?? But am concerned about the IQ if adding the 2X, any sifus here tried it???
I know the 50mm is very good, but UWA in which lens?? With 0.45X adapter??
Cool... was using a Fujifilm S100FS, loved the 28-400mm (35mm equiv.) zoom. Now getting used to the hassle of changing lens when i need to get closer, and still find it not as close to the 400mm in the past.
Was contemplating on getting a 2X tele-converter, doesnt that double the zoom of the 55200 to 400 (or 600mm in 35 mm terms)?? But am concerned about the IQ if adding the 2X, any sifus here tried it???
I know the 50mm is very good, but UWA in which lens?? With 0.45X adapter??
adding a tele-conv will also multiply the maximum aperture by that ratio as well... eg. on a F4.5 lens, adding a x2 tele conv will make its max F at F9
an UWA is normally refered to 10-20, 10-24, 11-18 range lenses
no la...i won sell my 16105...as i love it...only selling 50mm
i previously own a 18200, but not 18250 b4...i know 18250 is sharper than 18200, but i after using 18200 for travel, i feel that i seldom use the tele end but use the wide end more..
16mm is very nice to use...u can see my travel blog (like under my sig) all using 16105 and 50mm mainly for food.
i din own a SAL50 1.8 b4, so i cannot compare the color
ooo... why u wanna let go yr prime, berapa luui?? getting new stuff???
Cool... was using a Fujifilm S100FS, loved the 28-400mm (35mm equiv.) zoom. Now getting used to the hassle of changing lens when i need to get closer, and still find it not as close to the 400mm in the past.
Was contemplating on getting a 2X tele-converter, doesnt that double the zoom of the 55200 to 400 (or 600mm in 35 mm terms)?? But am concerned about the IQ if adding the 2X, any sifus here tried it???
I know the 50mm is very good, but UWA in which lens?? With 0.45X adapter??
never tried TC before.. so can't really comment on that.. well, one of the best thing about DSLR is that the ability to change lens actually.. i still need to change for 50mm and UWA sometimes.. but like i said, i'm looking for a travel/walkaround lens.. also, i want that extra 500mm for my raynox
oh ya, my UWA is SAL-1118..
QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Sep 10 2009, 10:54 PM)
sig always talk cork wan la. (: This year buy so many things dy. LOL.
shaddap u
QUOTE(Poadster @ Sep 10 2009, 10:56 PM)
Thnx for the time illustrating it.... i know the diff now, but wonders if worth the hassle to sell off my F42 and hunt for a F58.
Really appreciate the effort to educate a newbie.....
don't sell your f42.. just buy f58.. later u'll regret it like me.. cannot play multiple flash now
Sig, how much did u get it for?? Will be in Pav tomorrow, may drop into Sony Style there.....
How is the IQ?? Is it better than having 2 lens (as u are letting go yr kit lenses)??
Deciding if to get the 18250 + 50mm to replace the lens kits (1870 and 55200), care to share yr exp??
i had a hard time to decide which 1 to go for.. i spent like 15 min holding 18250 and 16105 at the counter. thinking which 1 to go for... until they pull down their gate to give me a hint that they are going to close
thought of 18250 + 1750 .. but ended up buying 16105 + 50 1.8 i compared 16105 and 18250 .. 16105 does produce sharper image.. but ofcos it lose up the mobility lor... cos i don think i will need that zoom for now.. although i would love to have one
sig.. maybe we can swap the lens after few months? hehehehe
hmm... Clearing old stock will not be applicable to alpha product at JB SONY STYLE.. not much item there except those display set la.. A850 is not OLD stock mah.. haa
Oh ya.. Achew, ur fren get u the 2470Z. They have ex-stock there? surprise...
my friend pay full upfront...and they'd only have the stock on monday =) hope nothing screw up there..
guys..uncle chin is selling how much and free flash??
never tried TC before.. so can't really comment on that.. well, one of the best thing about DSLR is that the ability to change lens actually.. i still need to change for 50mm and UWA sometimes.. but like i said, i'm looking for a travel/walkaround lens.. also, i want that extra 500mm for my raynox
oh ya, my UWA is SAL-1118.. shaddap u don't sell your f42.. just buy f58.. later u'll regret it like me.. cannot play multiple flash now
harlow... i dont print money nor have a money tree growing out of my garden lo.....
just go the A300 + kit + F42, now hunting 18-250, 50mm f1.8, VG, crumpler 6 mil, crumpler cam strap, mayb raynox....
what u can do, if u really wanna flash, have your back facing a nearby wall, then twist the flash facing backwards away from the baby towards the wall bouncing the light back at the baby... gives a much better wrap than using diffusers
Added on September 10, 2009, 11:20 pm
QUOTE(Poadster @ Sep 10 2009, 11:18 PM)
I plan to diffuse it, and bounce it wireless from a distance. Not directly in her face la....
Thnx for the advice....
even if wireless, your pop up flash will be directly at the baby's direction as well
This post has been edited by lwliam: Sep 10 2009, 11:20 PM
what u can do, if u really wanna flash, have your back facing a nearby wall, then twist the flash facing backwards away from the baby towards the wall bouncing the light back at the baby... gives a much better wrap than using diffusers
Added on September 10, 2009, 11:20 pm
even if wireless, your pop up flash will be directly at the baby's direction as well
Cool... will use this technique....
Was planning to diffuse the pop up flash and the F42, then point the F42 to a wall, and fire it off wireless-ly when taking snaps of her... didnt realise that the pop up will fire off too...
Is there a way to fire the F42 wirelessly without firing the pop up??
now all i need is to download PP skills into my brain.... ala Matrix...
This post has been edited by Poadster: Sep 10 2009, 11:28 PM
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From: KL(Wangsa Maju) , Seremban 2
Guys, I would greatly appreciate if you guys could stop posting rubbish post like UGPM and stuff like that. Be constructive when posting. Don't pollute this thread with nonsense like that. Be sensible. Thanks.
not CZ...but with SAM motor...retail (after conversion from USD) is RM2999. wcs dono the price yet ar? if 2k..really i hate sony edi..
y do u need to hate it..u have a sony afterall..lol..
even u don have a sony..u shd b happy for the sony users...for fellow photographers~! lol..
hkhk..can u check whether we r able to convert our stuff to the limited warranty from sony retails..??it doesnt make sense if we can only do it on normal shops....the warranty thingy is recognized by sony anyway..
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i almost died laughing at this... eh millinea.. i saw the fb chat thing.. but was out already.. news from moo? no ah.. moo, whatcha holding back from me? =P no need shy shy.. ahahahah
not buying A850. Just booked A700.. I will stay at APS-C for quite sometime before I jump to Full Frame.. I spend over my Credit card limit already. So.. next time la..
I think i will do d same.. not pro enough to get fullframe.. later my pictures lower down the Alpha standard
QUOTE(MemorableStudios @ Sep 10 2009, 08:43 PM)
A850 for RM5900.. nobody wants ah?? already place order 1 unit for any1 here that wants.. otherwise will cancel order on monday...
buying A700 + another 3k lens = A850. either i buy A850 n shoot without any lens (i only hv 50mm to go with it)~ or i get A700 n get a CZ 1680
QUOTE(fas29 @ Sep 10 2009, 08:50 PM)
I think he mean like this
Yeap yeap correct.
QUOTE(achew @ Sep 10 2009, 09:46 PM)
ok..im officially a 2470 owner..collecting on monday =) rm5199
Congrats achew!!!!! The early preparation journey to meet ur A850~
QUOTE(MemorableStudios @ Sep 10 2009, 09:48 PM)
congrats achew.. welcome.. now u need A850/900...
A850 going for RM5900.. u can also get it next week...
Really very good price. wait 2 years later mayb i will get when d price drop.. buahahaha
QUOTE(ohzmygod @ Sep 10 2009, 11:03 PM)
i had a hard time to decide which 1 to go for.. i spent like 15 min holding 18250 and 16105 at the counter. thinking which 1 to go for... until they pull down their gate to give me a hint that they are going to close
thought of 18250 + 1750 .. but ended up buying 16105 + 50 1.8 i compared 16105 and 18250 .. 16105 does produce sharper image.. but ofcos it lose up the mobility lor... cos i don think i will need that zoom for now.. although i would love to have one
sig.. maybe we can swap the lens after few months? hehehehe
So u bought the 16105? did u actually test the 1750?? im oso dilemma between dis 2. but 18250 is not within my consideration.
QUOTE(Poadster @ Sep 10 2009, 11:12 PM)
Any F42 flash user using diffuser here?? Wanted to know what diffuser type fits and which is best, between the boxy type and the toilet bowl type??
Wanna use it to snap pics of my newborn niece, going to SG during raya.
milvtec selling one for F42.. im thinking to get one from him too...together with the tamron 1750 f2.8, mayb checkout some of his bags too
QUOTE(Poadster @ Sep 10 2009, 11:23 PM)
Cool... will use this technique....
Was planning to diffuse the pop up flash and the F42, then point the F42 to a wall, and fire it off wireless-ly when taking snaps of her... didnt realise that the pop up will fire off too...
Is there a way to fire the F42 wirelessly without firing the pop up??
now all i need is to download PP skills into my brain.... ala Matrix...
u hv no choice but to use the pop up flash to trigger wireless flash.. What i do usually is to decrease the power of pop up flash to minimun... then use my hand to block d popup flash. most of the time i find the pop up flash undesireable needed... so i do tat. giving the subject a more dramatic lighting effect from the F42 itself
QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Sep 10 2009, 11:54 PM)
Guys, I would greatly appreciate if you guys could stop posting rubbish post like UGPM and stuff like that. Be constructive when posting. Don't pollute this thread with nonsense like that. Be sensible. Thanks.
sorry . i'll like to know wat is UGPM stand for? hope this question doesnt pollute the thread.
QUOTE(vcxv @ Sep 11 2009, 01:10 AM)
hi, havent post here for so long already. most picture taken with iso 3200 i think. c&c are welcome. advises are most welcome
Added on September 11, 2009, 1:11 ammore at my flickr
I love this...
Oright goodnite everyone... Have a nice day tomolo.. n to those anticipated to get the 850. Enjoy~!
sorry . i'll like to know wat is UGPM stand for? hope this question doesnt pollute the thread.
UGPM stands for You got PM. lol i also hope this answer doesnt pollute the thread
Added on September 11, 2009, 2:35 amfinally i got time to upload the pics from the TT to fb =P..
So heres what i learnt from the TT. Most of the people already know this, but this info actually helps the new user.. Someone like me who is new, stepped into the dslr world not knowing i need to purchase all these stuff.. If i known this earlier, i get a PnS can adi.. .. o well.. since i fell in love with alot of lenses during the TT, no way in hell im moving back to PnS cams.. i like lenses..
So, below is an example of my food with the built in flash and an example with moo's f58 cobra. All pics upload to FB then transfered here.. lazy to put into photobucket.
Here is a pic with the built in flash, sry ah.. messy eater..
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Here is almost the same angle, cept zoomed out abit with the F58 cobra
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Another one.. Here is with the built in flash. check out the harsh shadows mann.. and the harsh light..
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Here is with the F58.. So much more natural..
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Hope this helps those who is new in the area =).. Searching google also got comparison photos.. Just in case people lazy to find in goodle hehe =) I learned alot! and kena poisoned alot!
This post has been edited by lildaredevil906: Sep 11 2009, 02:37 AM
I don't quite understand..for the 2nd photo, he set the exposure bias to 1.0, in the third one, because there was a lot of white, so the noise wasn't visible ka??
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i almost died laughing at this... eh millinea.. i saw the fb chat thing.. but was out already.. news from moo? no ah.. moo, whatcha holding back from me? =P no need shy shy.. ahahahah
haha! draw this before i decide to get my cobra, worse than a kindergarten kid drawing..
Added on September 11, 2009, 4:48 am
QUOTE(vcxv @ Sep 11 2009, 01:10 AM)
hi, havent post here for so long already. most picture taken with iso 3200 i think. c&c are welcome. advises are most welcome
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Added on September 11, 2009, 1:11 ammore at my flickr
the 1st pic looks great! used any filter or pp-ed?
This post has been edited by lehtung: Sep 11 2009, 04:48 AM
UGPM stands for You got PM. lol i also hope this answer doesnt pollute the thread
Added on September 11, 2009, 2:35 amfinally i got time to upload the pics from the TT to fb =P..
So heres what i learnt from the TT. Most of the people already know this, but this info actually helps the new user.. Someone like me who is new, stepped into the dslr world not knowing i need to purchase all these stuff.. If i known this earlier, i get a PnS can adi.. .. o well.. since i fell in love with alot of lenses during the TT, no way in hell im moving back to PnS cams.. i like lenses..
So, below is an example of my food with the built in flash and an example with moo's f58 cobra. All pics upload to FB then transfered here.. lazy to put into photobucket.
Here is a pic with the built in flash, sry ah.. messy eater..
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Here is almost the same angle, cept zoomed out abit with the F58 cobra
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Another one.. Here is with the built in flash. check out the harsh shadows mann.. and the harsh light..
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Here is with the F58.. So much more natural..
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Hope this helps those who is new in the area =).. Searching google also got comparison photos.. Just in case people lazy to find in goodle hehe =) I learned alot! and kena poisoned alot!
Wa! Who's that handsome guy with the black cap on , next to albert? (: Anyway forgotten let you try my toilet bowl diffuser. even more difference. Love the after effect. (:
UGPM stands for You got PM. lol i also hope this answer doesnt pollute the thread
Added on September 11, 2009, 2:35 amfinally i got time to upload the pics from the TT to fb =P..
So heres what i learnt from the TT. Most of the people already know this, but this info actually helps the new user.. Someone like me who is new, stepped into the dslr world not knowing i need to purchase all these stuff.. If i known this earlier, i get a PnS can adi.. .. o well.. since i fell in love with alot of lenses during the TT, no way in hell im moving back to PnS cams.. i like lenses..
So, below is an example of my food with the built in flash and an example with moo's f58 cobra. All pics upload to FB then transfered here.. lazy to put into photobucket.
Here is a pic with the built in flash, sry ah.. messy eater..
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Here is almost the same angle, cept zoomed out abit with the F58 cobra
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Another one.. Here is with the built in flash. check out the harsh shadows mann.. and the harsh light..
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Here is with the F58.. So much more natural..
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Hope this helps those who is new in the area =).. Searching google also got comparison photos.. Just in case people lazy to find in goodle hehe =) I learned alot! and kena poisoned alot!
I can see Mo0 and albnok...
QUOTE(raist86 @ Sep 11 2009, 02:36 AM)
guys, i'm looking for a cpl filter for my 16105... wanna get it before i go to langkawi next week...
what would you guys recommend with a budget of not more than 150? really tight on budget liao...
with that budget, can get a Kenko one... search in garage sale...
QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Sep 11 2009, 09:11 AM)
Wa! Who's that handsome guy with the black cap on , next to albert? (: Anyway forgotten let you try my toilet bowl diffuser. even more difference. Love the after effect. (:
you know who's selling the toilet bowl? i want ler...
50mm on apsc memang sempit kekeke... can't deny that it is sharp, but also noisy when focusing..
tetiba rasa cam nak jual pulak.. beli flash kekeke...
maybe I should be more creative in composing using this prime
which is exactly why i'll stick to the Sigma 30mm f1.4 for portraits, if i had the money for it.
Added on September 11, 2009, 9:53 am
QUOTE(mcline_007 @ Sep 11 2009, 09:45 AM)
Good morning
wat is the different? Tamron SP AF17-50mm F/2.8 XR Di-II VC LD Aspherical (IF) Tamron AF17-50mm F/2.8 XR Di II LD Aspherical (IF)
how are you bro? hope ur doing good... forgot to tell ya how i love that shot of the fiery hand..
anyways, i know that SP stands for super performance... or is it special performance? either one la kot... but i think those two are the same la... i dunno aku noob
This post has been edited by millenia3000: Sep 11 2009, 09:53 AM
which is exactly why i'll stick to the Sigma 30mm f1.4 for portraits, if i had the money for it.
Added on September 11, 2009, 9:53 am
how are you bro? hope ur doing good... forgot to tell ya how i love that shot of the fiery hand..
anyways, i know that SP stands for super performance... or is it special performance? either one la kot... but i think those two are the same la... i dunno aku noob
dude....im good. how r u? hehehe thanks just playing around wit PP....im planing to get tamron 17-50mm F/2.8.
Sep 9 2009, 02:01 AM, updated 17y ago
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He said maybe the stock come in today, must check later and c....other place, like lowyat and sg. wang can get cheapest RM1100 ni......haih....still very expensive compared to RM1015 that foto miami offer.... 
users who want their name to be added to the alpha userlist on the 1st page 
) ,but u can save budget to enhance lense n flash 
try ask another forumer here who own the 16105 too..
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