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albnok
post Sep 16 2009, 01:34 AM

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achew: Yes, DRO+ will bring it up if it is underexposed.

The camera doesn't know to choose a faster shutter speed to reduce flash power. The Alphas are programmed to get as close to ambient exposure without passing the focal length limit (hence, F1.4 ISO1600 might give 1/320s... I'm getting the same reading here, if the flash is off. If the flash is on, and you're in Aperture Priority, it will get as close to it - mine says 1/160s with flash on. If you roll down to F4 it will go down to 1/60s but no slower, unless you press AEL (Slow Sync) then you can get slowww shutter speeds which is a very cool shortcut with the A100/A700/A850/A900.

Turn off DRO+ when using high ISO, it will brighten shadows and increase noise. Turn it on only when out in daylight (use Intelligent Preview, accessible by the DOF Preview button).
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post Sep 16 2009, 01:45 AM

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cool info.. albnok.
how to shoot model with white dress in a strong daylight..
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post Sep 16 2009, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(lildaredevil906 @ Sep 15 2009, 10:47 AM)
eh moo.. i might take up ur bagman =P provided its cheap la.. haha.. the bag i just bought abit useless now i think of it.. but.. if i utilize it properly, can hook on a tripod on it.. i wanna sell my bag and get something else di >.<
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Sis, what yr current bag now?? Oso let go cheap??? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Sep 16 2009, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(nickilala @ Sep 15 2009, 11:43 PM)
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cj, u alwaz tipu them makan makan then shot them izzit? haha rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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no la.... just dun move ur body too fast n no big move they won run away biggrin.gif

QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 16 2009, 01:05 AM)
cjlai: Great focus control!
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post Sep 16 2009, 02:03 AM

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nickilala: Use DRO+, and add a new profile where:

Contrast 0 Saturation 0 Sharpness +3 and the Zone is +2. Adjust Brightness as you like.
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post Sep 16 2009, 02:07 AM

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thanks a lot, albnok.. hope i can do it. smile.gif
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post Sep 16 2009, 02:18 AM

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albnok
post Sep 16 2009, 05:26 AM

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F22: What is that I see, right in front of me?

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F2.8: Speaker grilles!

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F14: Stereo mike.

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F2.8: More speaker grilles!

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What else, but the new Sony 30mm F2.8 DT Macro SAM lens! It features SAM (Smooth Autofocus Motor) and an AF/MF switch, and can focus to 129mm from subject to sensor plane (or 20mm from the front of the lens). Interestingly, they mark the inches with "in" where there is space.

It can capture an image at 1:1 magnification - that is, the surface area captured is equal to the sensor size (23.5mm X 15.6mm on the A700 for example).

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From the underside at F2.8; notice the longitudinal chromatic aberration (the reddish outline in front of the focus point, and the greenish outline behind the focus point.)

A slight rant - people tend to confuse longitudinal chromatic aberration with lateral/transverse chromatic aberration (which appears towards the sides and corners of wide-angle lenses) and purple fringing (which appears at the point of focus, especially with white on black detail.)

More reading on the various types of chromatic aberration, here:
http://wiki.panotools.org/Chromatic_aberration

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F2.8 (100% crop from the Sony Alpha 900.) This lens has longitudinal chromatic aberration (or LoCA in short.) LoCA is common in Sony, Minolta and Zeiss lenses, and it adds to the color of the out-of-focus areas, giving Minolta lenses their definite look. My old Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm F2.4 had a tendency to bring out ultramarine-blue purple fringing, though (which is a bad thing, but can be reduced by choosing a darker aperture.)
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F2.8: 30mm on APS-C gives the same angle of view as a 45mm lens on a full-frame camera. This is often considered 'normal' - neither wide nor tele. Depending on how you compose, you can make it seem wider or more telephoto.

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F2.8: Real shallow.

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F22: The obligatory shot. You know what this is.

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Previously my experience with SAM lenses is that you might've been able to turn the focus ring when the body is set to MF, or focus is achieved and the focus screw disengages (body DMF - Direct Manual Focus). However, the instruction manual tells you not to! No wonder it does feel a bit rough.

No matter what, you need to set the AF/MF switch on the lens to MF, in order to turn the focus ring. You can still use AF/MF or DMF on the body to stop focusing - just don't turn the ring.

These warnings are written in the instruction manual for a reason. The manufacturer will not fix your lens for free under warranty if you have damaged it this way, because they have already warned you! Same reason why McDonalds Apple Pie boxes state: Caution: Contents May Be Hot. So if you burn your tongue, you can't sue McDonalds because they have already warned you.

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F2.8: At F2.8, it is sharp, but not too sharp (like the Tamron 60mm F2.0 Macro DiII, also an APS-C 1:1 macro lens). This makes the lens good for walkaround purposes, where the kit lens would usually stop you from getting too close (exception being the Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4.5 EX DC and Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 EX DC, with exceptional minimum focusing distances of 20cm).

It reminds me of my wonderful time with the Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm F2.4 M42 lens - it could focus to 19cm close! So instead of zooming in (not possible on this prime lens) I would just get closer to the subject until I filled the frame with my subject. Great fun for walking in the park or the woods.

Some people insist that macro lenses must have long focal lengths. Obviously, their idea of macro is only insects (which are often, painfully boring because they tend to throw composition out of the window and go into "hey look here's the same insect at 5 different magnifications all higher than 1:1. Oh yes, all 5 pictures are the same thing, same angle.")

Cropping is supposedly a do-not in macro, but focus stitching is not?

Last I knew, shooting macro means shooting anything small. A macro lens can be used for close-ups. You can shoot flowers. Grass. Miniature figurines. Patterns and details you never knew existed.

If you shoot the same thing with a long lens, you will get a different perspective, and shallower depth of field, which does not help with macro - you often need to step down to F16-F32 to get something tiny in focus! You also need a lot of light from your flash. A shorter focal length is easier.

With a wide macro, you can get a shot like this:

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17mm F8. You can get a flower and a building in the same shot! In retrospect I should've stopped down to F22. And borrowed the lens for a much longer period of time, it was great fun!
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post Sep 16 2009, 06:45 AM

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vroom....vroom...vroom...

gave the pic with a lot of empty space..dunno if it works! please CnC..

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post Sep 16 2009, 06:54 AM

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selamat pagi kawan kawan.....

selamat hari malaysia.......


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sorry kamera banyak habuk........

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post Sep 16 2009, 08:11 AM

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albnok:

about the sam function... yea I did realize that... turning on the body to manual only will still have friction on the lense..
even when I`m not using my camera... I`ll turn to MF on the 50mm lens because the rubber focus grip tend tu slide with my bag compartment (which cause the focus ring to move forcefully if I turn to af at the lens.. (at least i`m not risking my lens to broke earlier when I putting into my bag frequently tongue.gif

I dunno wether the my camera or lens the prob.... when I was outside klcc... and when I`m taking pictures of people passing by... the pictures tends to underexpose.. (matrix metering)

and while in restaurant, when I use spot metering, my subject tend to underexposed also (picture becoming silhouette LOL..
these happen when I use your VIVID setting,

but when I turn to normal setting , all become ok already rclxub.gif
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post Sep 16 2009, 08:38 AM

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ryzan76, I knew you are trying to hint something since few days ago when you posted your Alpha photo and you are doing it again wink.gif

Guys, to shoot a photo of this cam, surely he needs another cam right? whistling.gif
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post Sep 16 2009, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 16 2009, 02:03 AM)
nickilala: Use DRO+, and add a new profile where:

Contrast 0 Saturation 0 Sharpness +3 and the Zone is +2. Adjust Brightness as you like.
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Thanks Albnok, noted laugh.gif

i'm still new n noob at DRO or DRO+ biggrin.gif


QUOTE(Ranceed @ Sep 16 2009, 06:45 AM)
vroom....vroom...vroom...

gave the pic with a lot of empty space..dunno if it works! please CnC..

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need 1/125 n AF-C ?

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post Sep 16 2009, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Sep 16 2009, 01:51 AM)
Sis, what yr current bag now?? Oso let go cheap???  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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also letting go of my old 3rd party alpha bag... pm me...

QUOTE(bysquashy @ Sep 16 2009, 08:38 AM)
ryzan76, I knew you are trying to hint something since few days ago when you posted your Alpha photo and you are doing it again wink.gif

Guys, to shoot a photo of this cam, surely he needs another cam right? whistling.gif
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ya lo... he has an a300(or was it a350?) and an a700 mah... dats why lo... got his a700 so long already ler... he's looking for 70200G now... hehehe... that his new medicine...

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QUOTE(Braynumb @ Sep 16 2009, 09:16 AM)
also letting go of my old 3rd party alpha bag... pm me...
Oredi PM-ed you, any pic of the bag? Its up on the Garage Sale section??

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QUOTE(Braynumb @ Sep 16 2009, 09:16 AM)
also letting go of my old 3rd party alpha bag... pm me...
ya lo... he has an a300(or was it a350?) and an a700 mah... dats why lo... got his a700 so long already ler... he's looking for 70200G now... hehehe... that his new medicine...
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Owh ya, my bad, forgot already. Thought he bought an A900 tongue.gif
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post Sep 16 2009, 10:01 AM

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anyway.. how much is the pricing of carl zeiss 1680 and sal 16105 going at the moment?

woots.. seems that lots of ppl changed their camera d, im still stuck with the same old 1 =(
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QUOTE(Soony @ Sep 16 2009, 10:01 AM)
anyway.. how much is the pricing of carl zeiss 1680 and sal 16105 going at the moment?

woots.. seems that lots of ppl changed their camera d, im still stuck with the same old 1 =(
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its ok as long you keep shooting hehehe....

I have some friends who just bought it and... the didn't know how to use it and just keep it at home tongue.gif

yet I still think that good body need good lens tongue.gif better buy lens 1st
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post Sep 16 2009, 10:14 AM

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albnok,
Sony 30mm F2.8 DT Macro SAM lens is out ?

QUOTE(kopitiam @ Sep 15 2009, 08:55 AM)
always icon_rolleyes.gif the quality imo is similar if not better than your friendly neighbourhood print shop icon_rolleyes.gif
upload slowly thumbup.gif
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Okey will give it a try .. thanks for the link

QUOTE(DolphinDiver007 @ Sep 15 2009, 08:55 AM)
haloooooo,
i lost my desktop and i lost all my software!!!!
can share a bit on wat software u guys use for editing ur photos????
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photoscape

QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Sep 15 2009, 05:49 PM)
no la bro .. i asked does not mean I wanna change to FF .. suddenly, I just thinking about what lens ppl use if sony FF .. looks like cz135 is the most famous here but it is not all rounder lens .. wink.gif ..
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self poison ? whistling.gif

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