Bro i know this has been mentioned before but should i take my shake after my lifting/before my cardio or after the entire workout including cardio ?
Just wanna know which way is more beneficial and i found it google alot of different opinion on this question..thx

Before, during, and after.

ops jz realised is 5 x 5 and not 13 x 5.

wonder why i always tot should be 13 x 5
no wonder...

haha

damn...i'm in a dilemma now...
I love running and to be good at it you need to run at least 3-4 times a week. And unfortunately the stronglift programme says absolutely no workout of any kind during rest days (which are the days i use to run because after workouts you really can't run...).

Arrrggghhh....

run before lifting?
i do that...

Increase your calories by a significant margin and continue the workout. Not optimal, but when you're chasing 2 things at one time, chances are you'll end up being good at nothing, and mediocre at both. Something that's expected anyway.

EXACTLY .. well said, you can't serve two masters at once

Yeah i know that now and that's why i said i'm in a dilemma...

Just a question, your running, is it for any particular goal? Or do you just enjoy the process of running?

If you're into increasing fitness levels, there are other methods. Faster ones too.

I just discovered the joy of running actually.
Have been pretty 'fit' all this while.

Actually both the running and bodybuilding coincided as i was looking to loose some weight and then build a nice lean body with defined muscles.
Then the running bug caught hold of me.
Now I actually have some goals as in running a half marathon etc. But at the same time still want a nicely figured body.

Lat pull downs, do you guys do it pull to the front of the shoulder or the the back of the shoulder?

For me I pull is to my chest with my chest arched and facing the ceiling. Pulling to the back doesn't look comfortable.

Continue running. Adjust your current routine to accommodate your running since you seem to be more into running. Reduce the frequency of weights.

Thanks for the advice, appreciate it. Ok will do what's necessary.

before (finished 15-30min preworkout) and after (within 20-30 min postworkout)...

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Added on November 4, 2009, 2:04 amsome ppl feel unnatural doing the pull down to the back of the neck...imo, just stop if you feel uncomfortable as it will put your shoulders at risk of injury...old school bber used to do that...as for front pull down, i'm doing the same as you, with the back slightly arched...

This post has been edited by diablokun: Nov 4 2009, 02:04 AM

Both. I do supersets of behind-the-neck pulldown, then seated pulley rows, and end the set with front pulldowns.

Here's an article on form.

I do pull-ups, barbell rows, snatch grip deadlifts and car pulling for my lats.

Hi noobie here..

BCAA and Glutamine, is it worth the money or not.
some forum says it's good, some says it's a waste of money.

This post has been edited by axymax: Nov 4 2009, 11:11 AM

You said you're a noob, yet you want to invest your money on those supps?

Not investing yet, just doing some early research..
only been hitting the gym for about 1 month now..

My advice to you is since you've just started off for 1 month, learn the proper form for all exercises, try to make training regularly a habit and spice up your diet.