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post Sep 2 2009, 04:22 PM, updated 16y ago

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QUOTE(celion @ Sep 2 2009, 04:28 PM)
wow.
new thread..finally
btw a quick question,
is it necessary to add new exercises on a regular basis?
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post Sep 2 2009, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(mochamania @ Sep 2 2009, 04:48 PM)
Hmm.. are there any replacements for chinups?
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pullups
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Hold on. What are your goals though?
do you just wanna grow some wider back, or do you wanna get stronger at that as well?
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post Sep 2 2009, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Sep 2 2009, 05:15 PM)
if i want wider back then which one?
if stronger which one le?
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Lat pulldowns don't have much carry over to strength. I emphasize, don't have MUCH. It does have a certain percentage, but compared to pull-ups and chin-ups, it's not as great. The strength required to carry your own bodyweight with your back and arms, is still more than what it takes to pull-down your own bodyweight. Go test it. Just on the pull-down, the hard part is not having yourself fly into the air so clip your legs still.

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 2 2009, 11:08 PM)
hey thanks man
will check them out
been reading a lot of rave reviews about westside's routine
might check them out
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The worst part about Westside, is that it takes time. Here are a few important info that you need;

- Sticking points
- Weakest links
- What exercises benefit you most
- Rep ranges and sets
- Proper form
- How to schedule your training but avoid overtraining

To just learn about these, you likely need about 3 months, (at least) and perfecting it is a lifelong lesson because your weaknesses will change from time to time. If you want a really simple one, go back 1 page and look for the routine I posted.
Change the power clean to plyometric box jumps.
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Sep 3 2009, 10:34 AM)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/xrep17.htm

this training recipe sounds delicious XD
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It really sounds very basic. Play with tempo, stretch the fascia and contract your muscles hard and lift weights.
Nothing special about it
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Sep 3 2009, 11:46 AM)
i am too noob then, never read before sweat.gif
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Actually you have read about it.
It's basically the same as every other bodybuilding workout. The only thing is, you gotta identify the "marketing" points that they tell others saying that their routine is the best.


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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Sep 3 2009, 12:20 PM)
Pizzaboy, what's your opinion on using pilates for the "stretch" part?

This whole "stretch" thing is something new to me and I'm very interested in it now that I know its muscle-building potential. smile.gif
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I'm not sure it's the same stretch as the pilates stretches.

This is a fascia stretch. In weightlifting, what we do is, static stretch our legs before our squat sessions, to encourage more recruitment of muscle fibers. Then after each set of squats, we stretch it as well. Whether or not it works, I don't know. But if you've seen the size of my legs, you'd think it works.
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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Sep 3 2009, 01:50 PM)
I read in bb.com that static stretches before workouts reduce your strength. Do you find that true?

Even if it is, I wouldn't mind doing that as long as my muscle mass increases haha biggrin.gif
Looks like I gotta start incorporating stretches in between sets.

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Well they said creatine was excellent for muscle hypertrophy. I took Creatine and it was excellent alright. Excellent to sap money out of my wallets.

Take a chance with it. Not everybody can do it that way, but you ain't never know till you try.
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Sep 3 2009, 02:06 PM)
where? i think i missed it

@utuk utuk
http://stronglifts.com/5-reasons-why-you-s...atic-stretches/
but i always do static stretches before heavy lifting.
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Well, Melaka's just nearby. You can take the 1 hour drive down, look at my legs for 1 second and go back up. No problem.

Just take the article with a pinch of salt. I see 5 reasons why I shouldn't static stretch, and at the same time, I see 5 questionable statements. Just try stretching
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U should try coming to train with me one day. Then you'll see how I do it.
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 4 2009, 12:40 AM)
no worries
im still reading other stuffs including those of RSR and those from Dave Tate
i wont start until i think the gym i go (fitness first) has it going for me to undergo powerlifting routine
haha...which i think will be hard cuz most gyms sport basic equipments...which are good for growth but bad if u wanna customize your training
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will have a look at other materials too
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Here's something to help you out. With the method attached, you should be able to hit 5% more, in six weeks. The 80/2x6 means, 80% 1RM, for 2 sets of 6 reps. Lets take myself as an example.

1RM Back Squat - 185k

So 1st-9th workout it'll be

148KG x 2 x 6
148KG x 3 x 6
all the way to workout 9, where I'll do 148KG for 2 x 6 again.

Then week 10-18th, we use a wave loading method. 1st workout up, then 2nd workout drop, then third workout up, then 4th workout drop. It's a method that's been used by hundreds of coaches worldwide because it's pretty simple.

Load->Linear load->Wave load->Deload

Very simple and effective.




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QUOTE(tineagle @ Sep 5 2009, 04:00 PM)
This is all very interesting, but I must remind you guys that bodybuilders or people with active lifestyles have very different nutritional needs compared to the average joe.

Therefore, I would not apply studies done on mice and average people on sportsmen and BBers.

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QUOTE(jones007 @ Sep 8 2009, 04:01 PM)
eh guys what fish oil u guys taking? recommend some
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The ones in the bottle with a crazy 700/800 epa/dha content.

QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Sep 8 2009, 04:54 AM)
I do 5x5 for compound exercises and maybe throw in some 10x3's as well for the pump.

One thing I dislike about the 5x5 is the lack of pump. You?
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Recovery can be a problem. I'd drop the extra work. You just wanna build your work capacity and strength foundation, to increase maximal strength gains in future.

QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion @ Sep 8 2009, 05:00 AM)
I tried 5x5 and got bored of it too.
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Wanna try Bulgarian styled training?
Daily maximum singles, drop 10-20%, and do sets of 2-5 reps.
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QUOTE(Florian @ Sep 9 2009, 09:20 AM)
Went to gym, saw this guy with the same height as me and looks like Stan McQuay, spiky hair and styled facial hair, and he's huge...seeing him makes me feel so jealous inside.

How do you guys manage to tahan seeing people bigger than you?
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By being stronger than them.
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Sep 9 2009, 10:15 AM)
It's not hard to be bigger than me. tongue.gif So, I just take it as a bit of motivation to get bigger. Sadly though, that's not happening anytime soon. Was at the doctor's, and he told me to lay off the weights for at least 6 weeks due to me having lower back pains. =/

Meh, its for the best, I guess. Don't wanna have a lingering back injury.
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Here's what I've found out about doctors. They're wonderful people, who want the best for your bodies.
There's the problem there. They want the best for your bodies.

They tend to be extremely cautious and at any sign of pain, they'd tell you to back off. My friend cleverly backed off when he got tendonitis. 3 1/2 months and he's still working at it.

I got tendonitis, and soldiered on with good old coach assistance and some assistance workouts. I front squatted my max again in 3 weeks. 2 weeks training, 1 week holiday (You GOTTA try Philipines's "balut". They're excellent)

Cheers mate! Soldier on with some high rep back extensions is my vote! Then again, I just watched "Dirty Jobs" off Discovery, so I might not be the best person to listen tom.
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Pinch a pair of 25LBS plates

Dig your hand into sand and squeeze for reps.

Do pull-ups, with 4-3-2-1 fingers.

Load a bar with plates, and grab the thick (the sleeve) of the bar.
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QUOTE(mochamania @ Sep 10 2009, 07:32 AM)
Hmm. if I train my abs 6 days a week will it be counted as overtraining?
I do weighted exercises but moderate or low sets.
Am wonderin cause my abs are always sore and yet I feel good.
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Not even close.
Overtraining doesn't happen that easily. And when you overtrain, you can't sleep and you can't eat. You feel like shit all the time and you feel tired all the time.
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QUOTE(John91 @ Sep 16 2009, 01:52 PM)
Yea, squats FTW! Really starting to dig squats. Gonna try 100kg 5x5 next week. Which reminds me, have to make vid for shane. tongue.gif
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Yeahh you do.
Wanna make it worse? The front squats? Try pausing for 1 second at parallel before going all the way down, then pause again at parallel for 1 second, and then stand. I've a max FS of 160KG. Doing it this way, makes me stall at 135KG. And my quads feel like they're going to explode any second. Much harder than a normal ATG FS. However, make sure you keep your lumbar totally straight. I suggest using the clean grip and keep the grip really close so when it gets super tough, you can squeeze the bar harder and encourage more muscle recruitement.

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