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post Nov 5 2009, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ Nov 5 2009, 02:25 PM)
I am all against deadlifting facing the mirror. Why?  When  you deadlift facing the mirror, you tend to check how your grip is, you tend to look down, loose tightness etc etc...face away from the mirror.
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That's very very subjective. I personally can lift better in front of a mirror because it allows me to analyze my technique at the start position and position myself to use my legs instead of my back. Once I get the feel right, it doesn't really matter anymore, but occasionally I still like to face the mirror to know what I'm doing right or wrong.

Some people hate squatting in front of a mirror. I don't really care (I look downwards anyway, helps my hip drive up better because I'm not too arched and thus killing my drive) However, chances are if your technique is already fine, don't bother using the mirror. The mirror's used among weightlifters because they want to analyze at real-time speed, their technique and its changes at whatever angles.
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post Nov 5 2009, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Nov 5 2009, 03:54 PM)
That's very very subjective. I personally can lift better in front of a mirror because it allows me to analyze my technique at the start position and position myself to use my legs instead of my back. Once I get the feel right, it doesn't really matter anymore, but occasionally I still like to face the mirror to know what I'm doing right or wrong.

Some people hate squatting in front of a mirror. I don't really care (I look downwards anyway, helps my hip drive up better because I'm not too arched and thus killing my drive) However, chances are if your technique is already fine, don't bother using the mirror. The mirror's used among weightlifters because they want to analyze at real-time speed, their technique and its changes at whatever angles.
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My point is actually when deadlifting, I like to keep a single point of focus that will make sure I have a good arch for a start, keep myself tight and pull 300 someday.... rclxms.gif
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post Nov 5 2009, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ Nov 5 2009, 02:25 PM)
I am all against deadlifting facing the mirror. Why?  When  you deadlift facing the mirror, you tend to check how your grip is, you tend to look down, loose tightness etc etc...face away from the mirror.
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hehehe..my gym all around mirror..if wanna search for non mirror part..have to go behind the smitch machine la..ehehehhe...it could be wall...anything..as long as u are facing it....

the point is dont look down,look in front..it will change the form..this one cannot explain one..just try smile.gif
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i am confuse.

squat is suppose to look at the point down 6ft from you
deadlift ditto


no?

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post Nov 5 2009, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Nov 5 2009, 03:58 PM)
i am confuse.

squat is suppose to look at the point down 6ft from you
deadlift ditto
no?
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they say "Keep your chest up at all time & look forward. Hyper-extending Your Back"

and i also never look down on my deadlift...(maybe diferent from other people)
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post Nov 5 2009, 09:41 PM

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guys, deadlift is consider a leg workout or back workout ?
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Nov 5 2009, 09:41 PM)
guys, deadlift is consider a leg workout or back workout ?
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both! hamstring and back

full body as well
your lat is works hard to keep bar near to body. your forearms have to grip hard
and you can feel your trap is burning
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Nov 5 2009, 03:58 PM)
i am confuse.

squat is suppose to look at the point down 6ft from you
deadlift ditto
no?
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Try that and see if it kills your hip drive and quad drive. if no go ahead.

QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Nov 5 2009, 09:41 PM)
guys, deadlift is consider a leg workout or back workout ?
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Finger workout.
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post Nov 5 2009, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(angrydog @ Nov 5 2009, 02:21 AM)
Also:  Drop the weight until you can lift the bar without rounding your back.
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points noted cheers.


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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Nov 5 2009, 10:19 PM)
Finger workout.
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u for real? rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Nov 5 2009, 02:54 PM)
Some people hate squatting in front of a mirror. I don't really care (I look downwards anyway, helps my hip drive up better because I'm not too arched and thus killing my drive) However, chances are if your technique is already fine, don't bother using the mirror. The mirror's used among weightlifters because they want to analyze at real-time speed, their technique and its changes at whatever angles.
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i like that too. cz from the reflection i will be able to tell whether have i reached my border line smile.gif


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QUOTE(reddice @ Nov 5 2009, 10:22 AM)
p/s : youtube will help.a lot.....and deadlift is so good man....
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yeah youtube is my teacher now adays
for a simple exercise i will keep watching and different video on same exercise till i master it smile.gif


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hahaha... pizzaboy is just trying to mess with u la. =.=
but indeed it strengthens ur fingers as well. muahahhaha
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Nov 5 2009, 10:32 PM)
yeah youtube is my teacher now adays
for a simple exercise i will keep watching and different video on same exercise till i master it smile.gif
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1 thing I've learned, is you will NEVER. Never. For once, I'll dare to say "NEVER" correct every single technical flaw in a lift via watching videos. There are LOADS of things my coach has taught me previously, which I already thought I knew about. He could nitpick my "presumed" perfect squat so much, from my head angle, hip tilt, hamstring involvement, depth, weaknesses, arm position, ankle angle and even how I "think" when I squat. And mind you, I've been squatting for about 1 1/2 years prior to him teaching me.

And today, after my coach left and me experimenting with a few other systems of training, I have understood very clearly why the Chinese dominated in the Olympic weightlifting stage. Why they have 69KG lifters back squatting 260KG and how their 105KG lifter snatched 205KG (5KG above world record) as well as why so many of their 69KG lifters can deadlift at least 280KG (because they do clean pulls, not deadlifts. Deadlifts will be even higher as it's more posterior chain recruitment instead of quads) The Chinese system is almost flawless. I'm so thankful I learned from him for nearly 2 years. If I can sit and explain to you how the Chinese system works, you'll drown in how complex, yet SIMPLE it is.

Now if Chinese are the 2nd smartest people in the world, and Jewish are smartest, I wonder why Israel lifters will be developing in the near future.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Nov 6 2009, 12:16 AM)
1 thing I've learned, is you will NEVER. Never. For once, I'll dare to say "NEVER" correct every single technical flaw in a lift via watching videos. There are LOADS of things my coach has taught me previously, which I already thought I knew about. He could nitpick my "presumed" perfect squat so much, from my head angle, hip tilt, hamstring involvement, depth, weaknesses, arm position, ankle angle and even how I "think" when I squat. And mind you, I've been squatting for about 1 1/2 years prior to him teaching me.

And today, after my coach left and me experimenting with a few other systems of training, I have understood very clearly why the Chinese dominated in the Olympic weightlifting stage. Why they have 69KG lifters back squatting 260KG and how their 105KG lifter snatched 205KG (5KG above world record) as well as why so many of their 69KG lifters can deadlift at least 280KG (because they do clean pulls, not deadlifts. Deadlifts will be even higher as it's more posterior chain recruitment instead of quads)  The Chinese system is almost flawless. I'm so thankful I learned from him for nearly 2 years. If I can sit and explain to you how the Chinese system works, you'll drown in how complex, yet SIMPLE it is.

Now if Chinese are the 2nd smartest people in the world, and Jewish are smartest, I wonder why Israel lifters will be developing in the near future.
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how i wish i could meet u to discuss and learn from u smile.gif
now i only learn from youtube and some fella in my gym..and here smile.gif



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QUOTE(reddice @ Nov 6 2009, 12:41 PM)
how i wish i could meet u to discuss and learn from u smile.gif
now i only learn from youtube and some fella in my gym..and here smile.gif
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always can make a day trip to melaka. hahahah... =.=
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Nov 6 2009, 02:38 PM)
always can make a day trip to melaka. hahahah... =.=
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im from seremban also..very near... smile.gif
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QUOTE(reddice @ Nov 6 2009, 02:48 PM)
im from seremban also..very near... smile.gif
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upload your progress pictars edi brah...

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upload your progress pictars edi brah...
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monday la...will upload..today a bit busy smile.gif
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hurt my back bone. only swam today. sad.gif
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Nov 6 2009, 10:43 PM)
hurt my back bone. only swam today. sad.gif
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Doing all those deadlifts with a rounded back?
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QUOTE(kotmj @ Nov 6 2009, 11:18 PM)
Doing all those deadlifts with a rounded back?
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havnt started deadlifts
i think it was caused by squatting... the joint (near to the hips) there is still painful
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Nov 7 2009, 07:09 PM)
havnt started deadlifts
i think it was caused by squatting... the joint (near to the hips) there is still painful
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pain at join near hips usually cause by deadlifting .. not squatting.. maybe u squat wrongly?

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