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post Jun 19 2009, 11:31 PM, updated 17y ago

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One good site to add from http://www.bankinginfo.com.my
KNOWING YOUR CARDS (pls spend some time reading it up, especially for first time card user)

1. Visa
2. Mastercard
3. JCB
4. AMEX - Charge or Credit Card
5. Diners Club
6. China Union Pay(中国银联)
7. Etc.

1. Annual fee matters

No need to request for waiver
CIMB Direct Access Platimum and Gold - requirement Professional/Graduate. ---> http://www.directaccess.com.my/index.php?tpt=cimb_da
UOB Platinum - got to have BOTH MasterCard and Visa and swipe minimum 6 times/card.
Alliance Platinum - swipe 12 times a year or spend RM5,000/year.
RHB Evo - got to swipe once a month or RM8 is charged for that month.
OCBC Platinum Robinson - swipe 3x any amount even few ringgit also can at robinson from month on card expiry not following year basis (http://www.ocbc.com.my/personal-banking/Ca...Privileges.shtm)
MBB Flex -got to swipe twice a month or else charged RM3.95
Citibank Choice - 2 transactions in a month
CIMB Mastercard Paypass - free for life without conditions

2. Tap and Go - no signature required matters

Visa Wave - MBB, UOB
Mastercard Paypass - CIMB, CIMB DA, CIMB Islamic ---> http://www.mastercard.com/sea/personal/en/...rd/paypass.html
Visa payWave - MBB Petronas, EON, MBB Petronas Ikhwan ---> http://www.visa-asia.com/ap/sea/cardholder...a_paywave.shtml

Paypass limited to RM120
Visa Wave limit should be RM150


3. Credit Card linked to Petrol Giants

BHP-UOB
Shell-Citibank
AMEX charged card gives rewards point (presently 2X if got Turbo 3X) for pumping petrol at ALL petrol stations.
Petronas-MBB Visa Gold with payWave (free for life with no conditions) ---> http://www.mymesra.com.my/index.php?ch=mm_...omo_promo&ac=75
Petronas-CIMB Mastercard Gold (free for life) ---> http://www.mymesra.com.my/index.php?ch=mm_...omo_promo&ac=75
All petrol brands with CIMB DA Mastercard with rebate up to 2% monthly and 5% on the first day of the month.
Petronas-MBB Ikhwan Visa ---> http://www.mymesra.com.my/index.php?ch=mm_...mo_promo&ac=123
Petronas-CIMB Islamic Mastercard ---> http://www.mymesra.com.my/index.php?ch=mm_...mo_promo&ac=123
AMEX credit card generally offer 2X MR/TP at ALL petrol stations that accept AMEX. The newly AMEX credit card offers 5X MR.


4. Standard financial charge (interest rate)

Retails purchases: 18% p.a or 1.5% p.m from statement date upon paying the minimum amount.
    *Malaysia had adopted tiered pricing interest rate: BNM Press Statement
    18% p.a. (now, most bank had adopted 17.5% p.a. starting Apr 09)
    17% p.a. (now, most bank had adopted 16% p.a. starting Apr 09)
    15% p.a. (now, most bank had adopted 13.5% p.a. starting Apr 09)
Cash advance: 18% p.a from the date of withdrawal.
Late payment: 1% of outstanding or RM 5 whichever is higher.
Minimum payment amount: 5% of outstanding or RM 25/RM 50 whichever is higher.


5. Complementary Cards

1) Citibank - Just deposit and maintain RM200k
2) UOB - Opening deposit of RM300k with maintenance of RM200k
3) Standard Chartered - Deposit & maintenance of RM250K effective 1st April 2009
4) OCBC - Opening deposit of RM300k with maintenance of RM200k
5) HSBC - Deposit & maintenance of RM200k

6. AMEX ---> http://www.americanexpress.com.my/amx_info...fo/home/home.do

A - Charge card

AMEX charged card gives rewards point (presently 2X if got Turbo 3X) for pumping petrol at ALL petrol stations. Another benefit AMEX have over others is that they presently have 6 months 0% installment for any transaction. AMEX is truly 0% as they is no handling or surchage fees as compared to DA and UOB.

B - Credit card

With the newly launched AMEX Gold Credit Card:
5x Membership Rewards points for every Ringgit spent on groceries, petrol, bookstores - Kinokuniya, Borders, Times and MPH - and telco charges via Express Autopay -Celcom, Digi, Maxis and Telekom.
2x Membership Rewards points for all spend elsewhere.

Link to AMEX thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/547867

7. International Transactions

Mastercard and Visa charges a surcharge on top of the exchange rate. The banks also choose to charge an additional administration charge on top of that

Maybank: 0.5% -->verified by Hye

CIMB/DA: DA - 1% (starting April 2009 - by hye)

Hong Leong: 1%

PBB: 1.25% (thanks to the link by prasys)
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Transactions incurred will be converted to Ringgit Malaysia using US$ as the base currency on the date the item is received and/or processed at such exchange and at such time as may be determined by Visa International/MasterCard Worldwide at its absolute discretion plus administration cost of 1.25%. The exchange may differ from the rate in effect on the date of the transaction due to market fluctuations. Such rate imposed shall be final and conclusive and the Cardmember shall bear all exchange risks, losses, commission and other bank charges which may thereby be incurred.

http://www.pbebank.com/en/en_content/perso...ates/cards.html

Citibank: 1% --> verified by tinkerbel

HSBC: 1% --> HSBC will also charge a Misc fee; bank isn't able to provide details on what that is but according to CS whom I spoke with, there's a small misc fee. (contribution by Tinkerbel)

EON: 2%

UOB: 1%

Standard Chartered: 1%

AMEX card: 2.5% (Item 13.5 of the T&C)

OCBC bank: (provided by kei18kun)
overseas transaction 1%
http://www.ocbc.com.my/personal-banking/Ca....shtm?bcid=M5_1


8. Credit Card Cancellation Letter

QUOTE
[Your name]
[Your address]
[Date]

Dear Sir or Madam:

Please let this letter serve as notice that I am terminating my credit card account effective immediately. Please close the following account:

Credit Card Company: ____________
Account Number: ________________

Please send me written confirmation that my account has been closed. Also, please confirm that you have notified all appropriate credit card bureaus that this account was closed at my request.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Sincerely,
[Your Signature]



9. Cash Advance fees

Citibank: 5% of cash amount (min RM20), and 18% p.a. daily interest (N/A for Ready Cash)

UOB: The cash advance fee is charged to any withdrawal of cash made. This is imposed for each cash advance transaction. 5% or RM20, whichever is higher.

Maybank: VISA/Mastercard (Both Classic and Gold) | Flat rate of 5.00% of the total amount of cash advance | Min: RM10

CIMB DA: 5% of the amount drawn, subject to a minimum of RM15, whichever is higher.

CIMB: 5% of the amount drawn, subject to a minimum of RM15, whichever is higher.

HSBC:
The cash advance fee is 5% of the amount advanced or a minimum of RM15. Whichever is higher. This is imposed for each cash advance transaction
For HSBC Amanah Charge Card, cash advance is capped at RM1,000 per transaction and a fee of RM60 per transaction will be levied
For cash advances made over the HSBC banking counter, there will be an additional charge of the following:-
- RM50 on credit cards issued by local banks other than HSBC - RM20 on credit cards issued by non-Malaysian card issuers (including JCB)
- Cards issued by HSBC Bank Malaysia and the HSBC Groupare exempted from this charge

OCBC: The cash advance fee is 5% of the amount advanced or a minimum of RM15, whichever is higher. This is imposed for each cash advance/casino chips transaction.

10. Verified by Visa and Mastercard Securecode

Verified by Visa ---> http://www.visa-asia.com/ap/sea/merchants/...vbv_intro.shtml
Participating banks: EON, MBF , HSBC, PB, MBB (MSOS)

Mastercard Securecode ---> http://www.mastercard.com/au/personal/en/c...code/index.html
Participating banks: EON, MBF , HSBC, PB, MBB (MSOS)

11. Previous versions

Credit Card V2 Thread
Credit Card V3 Thread
Credit Card V4 Thread
Credit Card V5 Thread
Credit Card V6 Thread

12. Useful information
BNM issued guidelines in 2003 that limits consumer liability in cases of fraud to only RM250. See the actual document here, page 123 has the guidelines. (Courtesy of tishaban) (thanks awaynoway for the updated link))

Credit information:
CCRIS: http://creditbureau.bnm.gov.my/
CTOS: http://www.ctos.com.my/
BRIS: http://bris.com.my/index.html

13. FMB - Financial Mediation Bureau
http://www.fmb.org.my/index.htm
QUOTE
The Financial Mediation Bureau (FMB) is an independent body set up to help settle disputes between you and your financial services providers who are its members..

The FMB provides you with free, fast, convenient and efficient avenue to refer your disputes for resolution as an alternative to the courts. These disputes may be Banking/Financial related as well as Insurance and Takaful related .


14. AKPK - Agensi Kaunseling Dan Pengurusan Kredit | "We understand what you go through when you are financially distressed"
http://www.akpk.org.my/Home/tabid/36/Default.aspx

Financial Education | Financial Counselling | Debt Management

Link to AKPK thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/876712

14. Other Links By Users:
Quite informative blog with links provided by Gen-X:
http://creditcardsmalaysia.blogspot.com/20...rds-cc-101.html
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post Jun 19 2009, 11:34 PM

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i have just had a cimb credit card but i dont have a savings account with them


can i open an online banking account so that i can use CIMBclicks?
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post Jun 19 2009, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(Noyoudontcare @ Jun 19 2009, 11:34 PM)
i have just had a cimb credit card but  i dont have a savings account with them
can i open an online banking account so that i can use CIMBclicks?
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No need to open saving account also can have CIMBClicks.

Apply ATM PIN for your CIMB CC.
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post Jun 20 2009, 12:01 AM

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AmBank launches credit card drive

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Tried moving some of the last few posts over but failed tongue.gif
Messed up the topic.
So instead, I shall use the old fashion way: quoting the last few posts:
QUOTE(winner @ Jun 19 2009, 09:30 PM)
It sounds great. Finally some Shell stations accept this cc. I've just pumped full tank at Petronas and purchased groceries for the whole week as I don't wanna miss the 5% rebate on Friday! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(New Hank @ Jun 19 2009, 09:44 PM)
Anyone can answer this question?

American Express® Gold Credit CardEveryday is More RewardingAnnual fee:
Lifetime fee waiver
Minimum annual income:
RM36,000

Points collected from this card is TREATPOINTS OR MEMBERSHIP REWARDS? If ME Points, is it good? Treatpoints 8000 can redeem RM50 shopping vouchers. How about ME points?
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jun 19 2009, 10:43 PM)
AMEX Gold CC points are Membership Rewards (MR) points. As for your question on RM50 shopping vouchers, here are some examples:

7,500 points for RM50 Coca Restaurant
8,500 points for RM50 DOME voucher
9,000 points for RM50 Robinson, Metrojaya, TGIF voucher
9,500 points for RM50 Guardian, Watson, Parkson voucher
10,000 points for RM50 Petronas, Tesco voucher

For more info, go to Amex website and click on Membership Rewards

The reason why I want Amex Gold CC is purely because of 5x reward points for petrol, groceries and books (presently Amex charged card having promotion 8x for petrol and groceries but ending soon). There is no gimmick here, other CC gives you 5X or 10X points only on certain days in a month (how to remember?) where as Amex you get 5x everyday of the month.

Why is the 5X membership reward so good? Well AMEX allows you to convert your MR to cash rebate. For every 200 MR you can get rebate RM1

Click here for Amex Cash Rebate

Here are some examples.

GROCERIES

Spend RM200 on groceries you get 1000 MR and convert to cash rebate you get RM5. That's 2.5% rebate on your groceries. No limit per month and no AF

PETROL

Petrol RM1000 a month = 5000 MR, with Amex cash rebate i can get RM25 or 2.5% Better than DA by 0.5%

I pump at Esso, every RM1000 i get RM15 petrol or 1.5%

Therefore with the Amex cash back redemption and Esso points, I get 4% rebate for petrol. Free money which is 100% tax free (as of date).

Note: if you redeem vouchers instead of cash rebate, the actual % you get in return will be higher.
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QUOTE(alexwsk @ Jun 19 2009, 11:14 PM)
i thk can pump at all shell, but must go inside counter and tell the cashier how to punch the terminal
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QUOTE(Michael_G @ Jun 19 2009, 11:28 PM)
but i heard u guys said DA only for degree +++.. im only diploma le...
Genx i dun spend much and my income very low. and i only got diploma cert. im only plan to use the CC more on petrol. my petrol every month average only RM200. which card should i take can i get any advice from u guys? let say if i take You:nique cash rebate and i pay my bill on time do i need to pay any extra charges? and what charges for annual? in a year i swipe 12times den i no need to pay the annual? then how bout PA for cash rebate and what does PA mean?  rclxub.gif where can i find the full term and condition? i wanna read bout it tongue.gif so i can understand more. hehe
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QUOTE(Michael_G @ Jun 19 2009, 11:28 PM)
but i heard u guys said DA only for degree +++.. im only diploma le...
Genx i dun spend much and my income very low. and i only got diploma cert. im only plan to use the CC more on petrol. my petrol every month average only RM200. which card should i take can i get any advice from u guys? let say if i take You:nique cash rebate and i pay my bill on time do i need to pay any extra charges? and what charges for annual? in a year i swipe 12times den i no need to pay the annual? then how bout PA for cash rebate and what does PA mean?  rclxub.gif where can i find the full term and condition? i wanna read bout it tongue.gif so i can understand more. hehe
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Bro you are on the right track in getting a card that gives you automative annual fee waiver. Some cards have conditions like you must swipe 12 times a year to get waiver on annual fees like Alliance where as EON bank you need to swipe 6 times for classic card. Alliance bank CC not to bad because you get cash back AND reward points that does not have expiry period.

If you pay your bill on time and in full then you don't have to pay a single sen more than you spend. Since your credit limit would most probably be higher than your monthly income, you must practice to never spend more than you can afford or else you will end up like millions of Malaysians working for the banks. Having said this, the credit given with CC does come in handy in emergency situation.

Bro, even if you only spend RM200 on petrol a month it comes out to be RM2400 a year and if you can get 1% cash back you get RM24 free money. If you have insurance. phone bills, TNB, quit rent or whatever monthly'yearly expenses, charge it to the card and get cash back also. Also with CC you can get 0% installement plan but when having these kind of plans you have to be smart and not pay more than normal market price.

Another option is debit card where you get the convenience of paying just like CC. Public Bank just introduce a new debit card called Day2Day where they give 1% rebate on grocery and petrol up to December and subsequently 0.8% and the annual fees is RM12.

http://www.pbebank.com/en/en_content/perso...s/visa_d2d.html

Anyway, DA not that great lah, the points redemption is so so and got to pay for courier charges.
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Oh so fast new thread already.

I just got my new HSBC card, does it requires 6 times swipe for free for life?
Im lazy to ask the guy when applying lolx
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anyone can give opinion on this gsc-eon bank cc?

http://www.gsc.com.my/gsceonbankcard/default.asp

imo its good for those who frequent go to movies with a group of friends, and watch gold/premium class.
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Anyone received statement from DA recently? Mine came with leaflet of DA Smart Flexi-pay plan. Until end of the year, you can convert any purchase to 10 monthly instalments. No upfront charges to convert unlike last time.
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hi all,
anyone know which bank offer highest cash rebates on credit card purchases now? not those only certain period offer.
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Reporting in. Today submit the new Amex Credit Card application form. Not sure MBB will receive it properly or not. Or how long they need to process it. hmm.gif
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Congras on the new thread. Let's continue our passion.

QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jun 20 2009, 12:22 AM)
Oh so fast new thread already.

I just got my new HSBC card, does it requires 6 times swipe for free for life?
Im lazy to ask the guy when applying lolx
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welcome to HSBC. laugh.gif
which hsbc card you have?

for hsbc classic, it's going to expired next year. 3 years waiver is ending soon.
so i asked the CS, she told me that, the new renewal card, will get auto waiver with 4 times swipe per annual.
asked her again, and again, she said is 4 times.

too good to believe. sweat.gif

QUOTE(skincladalien @ Jun 20 2009, 12:37 AM)
anyone can give opinion on this gsc-eon bank cc?

http://www.gsc.com.my/gsceonbankcard/default.asp

imo its good for those who frequent go to movies with a group of friends, and watch gold/premium class.
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yes. you right. if u r frequent movie fan, it's the card you need as you can see the advertisement in the GSC. haha laugh.gif

since now the number of eon-gsc card holder is just started to growing, i guess, the GSC-EON ticketing line now is being shared with gold class at One Utama. it still not the exclusive ticketing lane...

im even also line up at the gold class/eon-gsc line to collect my internet purchase ticket. haha...
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jun 20 2009, 12:22 AM)
Oh so fast new thread already.

I just got my new HSBC card, does it requires 6 times swipe for free for life?
Im lazy to ask the guy when applying lolx
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the last time i called it's 12 times a year
but it's not written black and white on the website
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jun 19 2009, 10:43 PM)
AMEX Gold CC points are Membership Rewards (MR) points. As for your question on RM50 shopping vouchers, here are some examples:

7,500 points for RM50 Coca Restaurant
8,500 points for RM50 DOME voucher
9,000 points for RM50 Robinson, Metrojaya, TGIF voucher
9,500 points for RM50 Guardian, Watson, Parkson voucher
10,000 points for RM50 Petronas, Tesco voucher
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The new MBB Amex cc looks interesting due to the 5x reward points and “free for life” feature. The requirement for redemption of RM50 hypermarket voucher is good, which is only 10,000 points compared with others @ >12,000 points. The reward points earned from MBB Amex cc are evergreen, right? While Amex is commonly accepted in petrol stations, Petronas so far still doesn’t recognise Amex. If Petronas accepts Amex, it will kill MBB Petronas cc!

QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jun 20 2009, 12:09 AM)
Anyway, DA not that great lah, the points redemption is so so and got to pay for courier charges.
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That’s absolutely right. Since so many other CCs are also free for life and offer cash rebate, DA seems lag behind recently. DA needs to seriously think about ways to improve their CS, increase the % of cash rebate and waive the courier fee in order to retain existing customers.

Talking about courier charges, I came across somewhere that SCB Just1 also imposes courier fee for delivery of redeemed gifts. I couldn't locate the source now. Perhaps existing SCB cc customers can enlighten me.

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QUOTE(charymsylyn @ Jun 20 2009, 12:57 AM)
Anyone received statement from DA recently? Mine came with leaflet of DA Smart Flexi-pay plan. Until end of the year, you can convert any purchase to 10 monthly instalments. No upfront charges to convert unlike last time.
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It is only for hospital, insurance and education transactions. Eventhough it only applies to these 3 categories, it does kind of shows that DA is concern and assisting the card holder.

QUOTE(winner @ Jun 20 2009, 09:26 AM)
DA needs to seriously think about ways to improve their CS, increase the % of cash rebate and waive the courier fee in order to retain existing customers.
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Actually DA is like the leader in giving benefits to card holders like free for life AF and the 1st to give 2% rebate on petrol at all stations. I am sure that DA will restudy their "offers" with time once they realize that other banks are taking their business away.
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anyone wan to apply eon gsc can pm me ^^
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QUOTE(alexwsk @ Jun 20 2009, 08:16 AM)
the last time i called it's 12 times a year
but it's not written black and white on the website
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i called it's 4 times. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(maru @ Jun 20 2009, 11:34 AM)
anyone wan to apply eon gsc can pm me ^^
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eon gsc applied at the HQ... almost 1 month already, no new.

freaky slow.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jun 20 2009, 03:18 AM)
Reporting in. Today submit the new Amex Credit Card application form. Not sure MBB will receive it properly or not. Or how long they need to process it.  hmm.gif
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You are applying by post or by fax? One question for supplementary card. Do we have to write down good relationship for supplementary card holder to get apporved? Or any people like friends, nephew will do? Or is it just for family only?

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@Putraskyline,
I do believe we could always make our best friends or close friends our supplementary cardholder; it doesn't necessarily need to be just relatives.

@winner,
Yes Amex MR points are, at the moment evergreen.
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Guys,

How long usually it will take for bank to "unhold" our RM 200 credit for petrol purchases?

Used my DA card to purchase RM 50 worth of petrol last Thursday, checked and they "hold" RM 200. They updated the online statement today, and they updated the RM 50 petrol purchase, but they haven't unhold the RM 200, which means they charged me RM 250 for the petrol purchase. rclxub.gif

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