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WaCKy-Angel
post Jun 20 2009, 12:22 AM

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Oh so fast new thread already.

I just got my new HSBC card, does it requires 6 times swipe for free for life?
Im lazy to ask the guy when applying lolx
WaCKy-Angel
post Jul 8 2009, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 8 2009, 11:46 AM)
I try to explain from my understanding:
MBB Amex (Maybankard Amex) has MBB logo. You will earn TreatPoints. All are Credit Card. E.g.
Maybankard American Express Gold & Classic
Maybank Islamic Ikhwan American Express Platinum and Gold & Classic
Amex's Amex (American Express) does NOT have MBB logo. You will earn Membership Reward points. There are Charge Card and Credit Card.
e.g. of Credit Card
American Express® Gold Credit Card
American Express Platinum Credit Card
Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer American Express® Gold Credit Card

e.g. of Charge Card
The Platinum Card®
American Express Gold Card
American Express Personal Card
and also the Centurion card.
Summary:
MBB Amex has Credit Card only.
Amex's Amex has both Charge and Credit card.

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Not true..

MBB Amex is still considered charge card, and it does not belongs to the Visa/Mastercard that is so-called as "credit card".
MBB Amex cant be used on machines that does not have Amex acceptance
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post Jul 8 2009, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Jul 8 2009, 11:31 AM)
Last time, a lot of retail don't want to accept AMEX because of the higher merchant fees compared to VISA and Master.
But since Maybank bought over the franchise, a lot of major retail outlets are already getting the merchant terminal for AMEX.
In M'sia, AMEX under Maybank arms had turned into Credit Card (correct me if I'm wrong, limited knowledge on AMEX also). But if one holds the true AMEX, it's supposed to be a charge card; same as DINERS.
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Normal retail credit card machines usually has Visa/Mastercard acceptance only, that is what ppl label "credit card" for Visa/Mastercard.

If u go into a shop and show them your MBB Amex card, 60% of them dont accept coz their terminal only has Visa/Mastercard.

But most Maybank terminal should have Amex acceptance by now.
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post Jul 8 2009, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 8 2009, 11:53 AM)
My understanding is charge card needs to settle full payment every month. Credit card can opt for minimum payment.
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Not really, u can opt not to pay but the interest rate can kill u..

Although MBB Amex is slightly different with the conventional American Express card, but its still belongs to that category..

The correct terminology/classification (Issuer) is broken up as:-
1. Visa/Mastercard
2. Visa/Mastercard Electron
3. American Express/Diners cars
4. JCB/Maestro (Japan/Europe)
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post Jul 8 2009, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 8 2009, 12:04 PM)
Then, why does MBB Amex earns TP and Amex's Amex earns MR ?

Why MBB Amex not earn MR ?
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Becoz for Malaysia, MBB Amex is just part of a "brand", cardholder are actually dealing with Maybank directly for everything including transcation and payment and American Express is just a back-end guy that receive some interest/benefit from Maybank.
If u have a American Express card, u are dealing directly with American Express and Maybank wont get a cent.

Get wat i mean?

QUOTE(b00n @ Jul 8 2009, 12:05 PM)
The term "credit card" or "charge card" is not by the merchant company.
Credit Card is known as it is because of the power to revolve while one is still with credit balances.
Charge card however is known as charge card because in the even that your didn't pay the last outstanding amount, you wouldn't be able to use it.
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/chargecard.asp?viewed=1
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It does not say u cant use if u dont pay tongue.gif
Unless this is what u mean " This type of card does not allow cardholders to carry a balance from one month to the next as they would with a credit card".
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post Jul 9 2009, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 8 2009, 12:18 PM)
Sorry, dig back a bit. If refer to this MBB Amex:
Maybankard American Express Gold

At the bottom of that page:
Read our credit card agreement (PDF)
It is stated clearly MBB Visa, MBB Mastercard and MBB Amex are referred as Credit Card.

It is not mentioned MBB Amex is a Charge Card category.
On the other side, it is not mentioned about the above agreement for Charge Card, e.g.
American Express Gold Card


Added on July 8, 2009, 12:19 pm

Yes, that's my understanding from reading this thread, Charge Card thread and also my own research on MBB Amex and Amex's Amex.


Added on July 8, 2009, 12:20 pm

Good info.


Added on July 8, 2009, 12:23 pm

This means:
1) MBB Amex can only offer Amex Credit Card
2) Amex's Amex can offer both Amex Charge Card and Amex Credit Card

Right ?
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Oh well.... lets just say for layman term, Maybank Amex are labeled as credit card and American Express are labeled as charge card...mainly due to their difference in the priviliges..
But for more technical term, its still working like 80% as a charge card, minus 20% for those extra priviliges tongue.gif

Nope wrong...
Maybank can issue both Amex card and American Express card, while American Express can only issue American Express card.
Short to say, Maybank works like an agent for them.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jul 8 2009, 03:26 PM)
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Not really. In United States, there are many AMEX credit card issued by AMEX itself as well as AMEX credit card issued by Bank of America.
Actually there is only VISA Electron but no Mastercard Electron. There is however a debit Mastercard version.
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Oh ya....
Mastercard is not called Electron...

Cant remember la all the term..

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Jul 9 2009, 12:39 PM
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post Aug 13 2009, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(talfred @ Aug 13 2009, 04:27 PM)
From what I know is there should be some regulations where companies while processing CC transactions are not allowed to note down the CVV number (regardless it is written on paper or in a word doc). That's why we have those secure pages that processes the CVV code and deletes it off immediately.

If really no choice I would just use a debit account linked to account which has only exactly the amount needed to perform the transaction.
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If u notice some shop will swipe ur card on their POS machine, and when the receipt (not credit card machine reciept) prints out it will show ur name, card number, etc etc...

Its actually not allowed, infact very dangerous coz most of the info already captured when they swipe the card.
All they need to do is just memorise the CVV number.
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post Aug 25 2009, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Aug 25 2009, 12:40 PM)
So how do you pay AMEX (not MBB AMEX)? Sending checks through the post isn't exactly a attractive option.

As for overseas transaction. How does AMEX's exchange rate compares with MC/VISA? And how's the administration charges?
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U can pay thru www.Maybank2u.com.my there's an option
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post Aug 27 2009, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Reagan @ Aug 27 2009, 04:55 PM)
QUOTE(Gen-X @ Aug 26 2009, 07:23 PM)
Do you know that youll be charged a fee upon withdrawal of cash with your CC and then you'll be charged interest daily until you settle the withdrawal amount together with the interest charges. Better you go find another altenative...... maybe to the extend of selling off your car or changing to kancil.
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agreed.

cash advanced per withdrawal cost RM50 for RM1,000.
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Hi, new here.
interested to know more bout cash advanced withdrawal. Do they still charge if they inform that now we may enjoy the cash advanced withdrawal & pay it back as 0% interest installment plan??
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Huh AFAIK Cash Advanced are not count like normal way u swipe ur card charges.

Although the credit limit may still apply, but cash advanced interest are calculated on daily basis..

Which bank says got such service now?
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post Sep 4 2009, 10:37 AM

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Guys is the Amex 8X point promotion ended? I found my statement have extra alot points

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