added.

"Normally the duration to obtain a LWTR is about 5 yrs. Before taking ur LWTR exam, u nid 2/3 yrs of theory(studies) n about 2 yrs of experience. Experience can be gained either by OJT (On Job Training) or Practical or Working. After u got ur LWTR, u still unable to work on any aircrafts, u still nid a particular Type Rating to b able to work on tat particular aircraft!"

correct me if im wrong

isnt it being said many times already,that if u dont have type rating, u cant just certify the CRS (certificate of release to service) but u still can work on the aircraft ?

How about this?




note that the time frame i gave is just a rough estimation, plz refer to AN5 or ELGD to get the actual years of experience needed.

what is crs? certificate of release to service.
i dont want to explain more on this coz im afraid i mentioned something confusing or wrong

This post has been edited by azameel: Feb 11 2009, 05:51 PM

PRECISELY!

jazzy939, i know that u are a super senior lae with loads of knowledge.
pease check the first page, the guidelines that ac3 made,
point out if there is anything wrong,
i maybe wrong in some part, but that is the point of foruming, to discuss things,
so please enlight me if i did mention anything wrong.
this forum had made me open a lot of AN, ELGD etc
which i never bothered to open for the timebeing

cheers

This post has been edited by azameel: Feb 16 2009, 12:20 AM

Although I showed you all the complete guide to enter Poly, but that is bullshit.

Cause now basic also got problems. I have talked with some LAEs, and they also say the same as previous LAEs, Poly student are always lost...

Some LAEs are helping us, some training school instuctors also, and some of us is trying the best, but 95% are still lost. Only those who really find out the problems is trying to solve the problems. We know inside the aircraft but not out side?

No Guidance, no people lead us to teach us. Direct to the hangar floor and learn from the technician and Engineer. No mission and vision. Poly also made my batch as beta test for work schedule. How about senior??

I must complate at least 60 task in 100 days OJT in MAS. If failed to do so, sorry you can leave now. And at the end will be oral... asking all what you did and modules.....

LAEs asked.
They ask us some basic questions, Physically.
e.g. How is the Main Landing Gear are called? Ans: Numbers
e.g. B747-400 Have winglets, what B737-300 have at the same placE?? A long rod. Ans: That is HF Antenna.
e.g. What is the Different between B747-200 and B747-300? Ans: Find yourself

Everyone have different answers...

If the programs is to make to be like this, students that Poly produce will be technician only not LAE. As LEO at HPL 06 told us that only 4 people graduate from MIAT be LAE in MAS currently, but i do not know really or not.

So for us who study in Poly is ???? to go to LAE, is a huge far extreme way to go...

azameel,
Thanks for those kind words
The guidelines, although NOT perfect, it's a good effort and a good start! Good work you guys..

This is how I like to do things.. I'd rather you yourself find the errors and correct the mistakes (if there is) as we go along..
it may seemed long and winded, let me assure you, learning this way is more 'fun' and the knowledge gained is more 'lasting' as compared if I were to 'spoon feed' you....

I do drop in here on a daily basis, several times in a day and will do necessary corrections if the 'damage' is really bad...

It's a good sign that you've started reading those documents. The more you read the more you will be familiar with the requirements.. just pop up the questions after you read it NOT BEFORE!

This post has been edited by jazzy939: Feb 11 2009, 09:20 PM

john, remove urself from 'the victim' perspective. view everything from different view.
to make u feel better, those questions that u got can only be answered if u already been working with the aircraft for sometime. i would expect u to be able to answer questions regarding acceptable standard practices, air legislation, general aircraft systems (electrical, hydraulics, flight controls, etc.). if u can't answer these kind of question, u can go kick yourself n wake up. even a long time serving fixed wing LAME would look stupid if u ask him "what is the difference between Sikorsky S61 and S76". the very reason u go for OJT/practical is to expose urself with the aircraft n for u to see how all those systems that u learned work in the real aircraft. of course, over time u are expected to be able to answer those LAE's questions. if u can't, go kick urself again. this time harder.

even other jobs are like that. u never really practice what u learn in dip/degree to do the job. it's more like giving u the base where u work urself upwards. how many people taking up management course? does everyone become a manager?

guys, in the first page, how about we add more sub-categories in EASA (B1.1, B1.2, B1.3, B1.4) and conversion between them. it will be more interesting for someone to have more view in this line. and for DCA license for heli, light a/c, and piston engine as well. so if someone don't have a chance to work with large a/c, at least he still can see other options.

i can see a lot people over here want to get an idea how to become a LAME. like me who don't have any family members working in this field, i have to search by myself all the info and this forum and the last forum we used before did give me a lot of info.

(just want to add for the first page)
for the person who want to study outside this country, there is 3 place that quite famous for Malaysian.
1. AST (quite expensive)
2. City of bristol (more cheaper than AST)
3. University of Glamorgan (this one you need to study for degree and EASA because u will get both degree and EASA module)

jus visited miat-easa.blogspot.com and found out unikl are now EASA part 66 and 147 approved.. but the course like 80k(4 sem) way more expensive compare to NILAI..

In 2010.. Miat will move to subang and offer master programme

This post has been edited by hakunamatata: Feb 13 2009, 07:45 PM

2010 master? is it really part 147?

Thanks Lestat, now I am trying my best to improve from my self from zone 100 to zone 700 at B737.

hakunamatata, is that true?? Part 147? Event Mas didt have it yet.

80k.... that is an amounth of money

This post has been edited by JohnMax: Feb 13 2009, 12:04 AM

I'm not sure whether is 147 approved or not because the blog was all about EASA 66 and I saw this at the 28pages of info book there..




This post has been edited by hakunamatata: Feb 13 2009, 01:03 AM

Hye everyone..

I need some opinion here ..i`ve been offered by a private sector company APR(aero precision resource sdn bhd) to undergo TAME program(3 years program), I hope anyone who knows bout this can give some comment about APR-tame program..thanks

well,thats not true
neither part 66 o 147


no matter which field/company/institute u r in
thats mayb som problem hidden bhind
its no reveal to all, coz ppl tends to look positive way
(yea,its gud to think positive,but not 2 get fool)

MIAT is 1st MTO in Malaysia
d condition to get approved is by follow AN85 guideline
for those senior tat graduated n not knowing much about MIAT recently
shouldn't b put through opinion tats set d date back 2 time

by following d AN85,its 3 old diploma course tats get approved
its not "MIAT" get certification to train all kind of courses
since year 2007,they hv intro a whole new diploma n degree tat they call "EASA" program
while on year 2008,DCA approved 3 old diploma program which compliance to AN85

tats d point make ppl confuse,those new program doesnt get approved by DCA
n its follow EASA module,not BCAR
so bfr recommend MIAT to newbie,i should clarify wat was going on

i rectified them

provide the EASA sub-categories plz

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Added on February 13, 2009, 7:10 amhey hw did u found those info? i cnt find it in the website...especially the cost of the programmes...80k?!?! really a?
thr r UniKL MFI, UniKL BMI, UniKL MIAT, etc. r they located at the same area?? o located far away??
u noe nilai cost hw much?? when is the intake?

ure a spm leaver? mayb we cn make frens if u dun mind? we cn share infos wif each other rite?
pm me ur msn if u wan to..

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Added on February 13, 2009, 7:24 amcn u tell me bout APR diploma programme 4 aircraft maintenance 4 spm leavers? do they arrange OJT for us??

This post has been edited by XxAC3xX: Feb 13 2009, 07:25 AM

so u mean the degree progame is approved by DCA and the new diploma is approved by EASA part 66?
Btw are u studying in MIAT now?

lolx... im suspecting Jazzy939 would be "another tools for torque loading " in Flydammat ....haha =D


happy valentine's day guys ! lovely me ... =p

actually, they graduated from MNRI - mara northrop rice institute
most of ex-mnri, ex-miat currently working in mas, as junior technician

but, they r a few who succeed
2 ex-miat in transmile manage to get lwtr "E" from dca

rasmuswil,
they're no school with part 66 approval coz there're no such thing.
do u know the reasons behind partnership between NIC and AST? or between MIAT and Aero Buildung?

i have yet to see anyone here promoting the course they're attending. a few complaints tho
PLEASE.. let us know more!