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ezi23
post Feb 6 2009, 04:26 AM

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hi guys, i also have one question...if someone just finish 147 approval training school, and she/he still need a 2 years experience to get the license, what position that she/he should apply? is it any airlines in Malaysia that can provide a training (a good 2 years experience) towards the license? maybe a proper training like TAME but it cut to 2 years only with practical training only because she/he already got all the module..
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post Feb 9 2009, 06:19 AM

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I think because of there are many ways to obtain the license, that's why MAS (or other airlines training) do not need approval. For a training that do not directly training on live a/c, an approval give more advantages. some of the training school who conduct EASA, i think it also do not need approval from DCA because you going to obtain EASA license. approval give more advantages than non-approval training school. for example EASA 147 training school give an advantage to the student to obtain the license after 2 years experience instead of 5 years. oh ya, for other training school that conduct EASA but not a 147, need to check either you will have advantage for 3 years experience only or not. don't just assume. if not, you still need 5 years experience after that.

i did ask one question about what position to apply if someone finish from 147 with all 147 advantages. what i mean to ask is because I'm not familiar with airlines position like "fitters, mechanic(semi-skill or skill) and technician (junior or others)" or is it any position for a proper(schedule) practical training towards the license.

thank you. and correct me if i'm wrong...

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post Feb 10 2009, 02:26 AM

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hehehe..sorry for used the words "i think", and "correct me if i'm wrong". i just don't want want people take my word as a fact unless someone can clarify it. i just want to give a rough idea.

and i admit about there's not many way to get the license even though i means the same thing about the places and everything but to avoid misunderstanding for others, thank you for clarify it.

and i understand as well about which country license to get. but one thing i consider are which country license that most acceptable around the world. and i know DCA license is one of them. so do EASA license is acceptable to convert to Malaysia license.

anyway, this is not my question that i ask before but thanks for the comments...
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post Feb 10 2009, 02:58 AM

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and to john, i know your position right now. it's normal you getting confused with terms "OJT", "practical" or "experience" and you try to mix up everything. if u going to sit EASA exams only, why u need OJT for? OJT is normally apply to training school as a requirement to get your training school's certificate/diploma. things about the DCA/EASA requirement is important, but for someone who want to make a first step in this career, i know u guys want the best for your way to get the license especially for those who don't have a chance to enter aTAME programme.

and because it's not easy to get the answer that u want in here, so my advise is choose your first step, know exactly what u going to do next and if u have a doubt, then ask. because i can see people over here don't like anyone asking a question that u can know the answer by "knowing" what u going to do.
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post Feb 11 2009, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(azameel @ Feb 10 2009, 07:34 PM)
what do you mean by this? u mean to take the exam only or to get the license no  need ojt?
look in the ELGD and look at section D2.1 anf D3.3.
what does that mean?
ojt is the same as experience, am i right?
in term of trainee or student
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hehehe..i don't know how to explain. but let put this way. follow the ELGD, to get the license, you need practical experience right. how u get experience is up to u. working, OJT, or work for free, all count as experience. so if someone study in college, OJT is one of the requirement to get the certificate/dip. same like other uni use the terms "practical".
for some who plan to get a job, and just take a exam, of course u don't need an OJT right. because u going to work to get experience, not an on job training. but for apprentice (i mean most of it, not all of it), OJT terms is use for all your practical training towards your license. so depend which way u follow, OJT might be important to u, and might be not.


Added on February 11, 2009, 1:44 am
QUOTE(Lestat @ Feb 11 2009, 12:11 AM)
ezi, i have to dig deep to read ur question.
it really depends on a company interest. MAS can't really use u straight away, so less interest there.
i only have one friend that i know well and he came from a 147 school in UK. wasted a good 2 years before got hired by transmile n start collecting experience.

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thanks for the answer. it depends on company interest right. it's something that we cannot plan to. just hope luck will be better. hehehe...

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post Feb 11 2009, 05:01 AM

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azameel, i know u understand well. u just want to make my life harder. hehehe...

but anyway, maybe how i present is not so good. so please do help me (especially in English).

thanks for any comments or critics from LAME, and friends in here..

cheers...
ezi23
post Feb 12 2009, 01:00 AM

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guys, in the first page, how about we add more sub-categories in EASA (B1.1, B1.2, B1.3, B1.4) and conversion between them. it will be more interesting for someone to have more view in this line. and for DCA license for heli, light a/c, and piston engine as well. so if someone don't have a chance to work with large a/c, at least he still can see other options.

i can see a lot people over here want to get an idea how to become a LAME. like me who don't have any family members working in this field, i have to search by myself all the info and this forum and the last forum we used before did give me a lot of info.

(just want to add for the first page)
for the person who want to study outside this country, there is 3 place that quite famous for Malaysian.
1. AST (quite expensive)
2. City of bristol (more cheaper than AST)
3. University of Glamorgan (this one you need to study for degree and EASA because u will get both degree and EASA module)
ezi23
post Mar 13 2009, 06:10 AM

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guys, how normally you buy tools? and how much it cost roughly all together? and what brand?
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post Mar 14 2009, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(Johny123 @ Mar 13 2009, 07:05 PM)
tools needed will depend on the trade that you'll be working under. Avionic guys don't need tools as big as used by the A and C guys. Some companies will provide loaned tools as they want to adhere to a certain standard.

However if you still wanna buy your own, you can try a place behind Sunway Pyramid. Forgot the name -.-. Will get back to this thread.

Cost may vary, it depends on the brand that you're after. Cheapest would be Kennedy, most expensive would be Snap-On or Facom. Some would
suggest Stanley as the cheapest, but I rarely see people use that brand except the rachet screwdriver since Stanley's has  quite a comfortable and nice grip when used compared to other brand.

My guesstimate for a complete set would be RM 500+ (covering the basics only).
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is it Stanley also a good brand? i know it might be not as high standard as Snap-on or Facom, but is it we can say it is a medium standard (can last for few years and not damage the a/c), not a low standard? and for all those basic tools, any suggestion which one is better to buy high standard, and which one for medium standard, or maybe which one is ok to buy a low standard? and any tips to buy the tools?

and did company (any company) will accept we using our own tools that we bought our self?

neway, thank you for the reply....and sorry for out of forum topic. hehehe.
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post Mar 14 2009, 09:47 PM

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thanks for the reply everyone.

how about brand "Britool"? so for the ratchets, combi wrenches, cutter, sockets, and screwdriver better buy a good one right? any other things?

thanks for the tips guys...
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post Mar 15 2009, 09:28 AM

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thanks for tips about the tools everyone. now I have some idea what to buy..
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post Mar 16 2009, 02:56 AM

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LAME not normally use a lot of strength (from what I saw), but do you know what u will be before u be a LAME? again, don't worry about it. as long as u are stronger than female, that's should be fine. because i knew a few girls doing this jobs as well.

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post Mar 17 2009, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(Johny123 @ Mar 16 2009, 03:08 PM)
LAMEs are problem solvers. They rarely use brawn. But getting your hands dirty sometimes is a good way to get your colleague's respect.


Added on March 16, 2009, 3:14 pmohh 1 more thing, the name of the outlet that sells aviation tools behind Sunway Pyramid is Cromwell but if you come in plain attire I doubt they will entertain you. They'll tell you to contact their agent instead. So come in uniform if you got one wink.gif
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Thanks for the info. Cromwell is another brand name right? how good are the tools?



and for aniqshamsul, first thing, what you want to be? or what you want in your hand? License or degree? if License, read the first page first. then ask which part you don't understand. if u want to get a job with a degree, it's different story. but if u think u want to be a LAME after your degree, it still come under the same rules, DCA rules (read guide in the first page). point to remember, anything that to do with LAME (i.e. knowledge, exams, or license) is under DCA(DCA rules), not under education body (i.e LAN).

so, what u want to be?

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post Mar 20 2009, 12:56 AM

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for city of bristol,

firstly, not 1 year experience. it is 2 years work experiences after that to get your license (LWTR).

2nd, you take your exams during your course. if u pass everything, you get all your modules, then you just need experiences after that. no more exams for LWTR, maybe just an interview.

3rd, be very careful about the fees. make sure you got everything on paper that say your fees is GBP5500 per year. if not, u will end up to pay another GBP1500 per year.

last but not least, students who did not come to class many times, but still sit for the exams, i guess it happen anywhere. because if it for EASA, it is not under college rules anymore. but, to get the certificate that allow you to have your license after 2 years experience, you will need 95% attendance. but some people don't care about that. they just need the modules.

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post Apr 1 2009, 03:32 AM

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guys, for ratchet, there is a lot of type for each square drive. which one is the best to use? even facom has a lot of type for each square drive.

and just want to compare the price, how much did one ratchet (i.e facom ratchet or stanley) cost?

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post Apr 3 2009, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(azameel @ Apr 2 2009, 06:41 PM)
Ratchet and sockets 3/8 drive for a and c (make sure you get the double hex one, meaning got 12 tooth or two hexagon)
speed handle with extension and bit holder
Screwdriver, Phillips and flat
Plier and cutter
combination spanner of various sizes (make sure you get the double hex one, meaning got 12 tooth or two hexagon)
most common size for ratchet and spanner/wrench includes 1/4,5/16,3/8,7/16,1/2,9/16,3/4,1 inch
better to buy the whole set cause eventually you'll be using all of it
mallet and hammer
thats all i can think for the basic set right now, these are for a and c
but the most important tool is the ratchet&socket, speed handle and the wrench
so start with ratchet spanner and speed handle
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so is this mean that 3/8 square drive is more important to 1/4 (or same important) for large a/c? all size is AF right?

for screwdriver, do we need a set (normal screwdriver) or one ratchet screwdriver with variety of bits is enough?

oh ya, for one square drive of ratchet, there is a lot of type available. which one is the best to use? or all the same? because different type come with different price. i mean for the type of ratchet(some of them metal handle, rubber handle, swivel head, long handle) not the size of square drive.

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post Apr 5 2009, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(azameel @ Apr 3 2009, 06:53 PM)
for a and c 3/8 drive is the one to use
u rarely use 1/4 drive, maybe in tight spaces or cabin interior works

both the ratchet and normal one is ok, but if u have extra money get both.
usually the normal screwdriver tips is a lot stronger than those changeable bits
and  even the screwdriver got sizes, size 1, 2 and 3...
most common is size 2, 1 is smaller than 2 and three is bigger than 2
note that airbus uses different type of screw, so different screwdriver and bits

your ratchet just get what u can afford, but get a good one, you'll use it alot
the longer one is better to release torque but its hard to use for tight spaces
just get a normal one will do, and i would suggest u to buy a 3/8 drive t-handle to break the torque before u use ur ratchet

its all depends on the budget, if u have extra money, get a (1/4 and 5/16) and (3/8-7/16) ring ratchet, it is optional and bit expensive but sometimes it comes in very handy
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but can we still use 1/4 drive for socket size from 3/16 to 9/16? because I have this set. but I don't know is it ok for starting or is it useful to get bigger sockets size (which mean I need to get 3/8 drive as well)?

anyway, thanks man...

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post Apr 8 2009, 07:09 PM

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is it the guide in the first page is hard to understand or people are lazy to read...hmmm... hmm.gif

 

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