Why is this under 'Education Essentials'? Jobs & Careers should be more apt as per original thread?

Answers to;
Q1. The question is in a mess. What DCA registration is this?
Q2. Short or long, it's how you decide the path. Ex diploma holders, 5 years. You start from the beginning, level zero.
Q3. Nope.Not directly. You start again from scratch just like everyone else.
Q4. You don't have LWTR, how to become LAME? Looks like you're not clear how this works.
Q5. Not really. Ex school leavers, diploma holders, some with degree also got.

Yes.. I can see that you're 'lost'…


This post has been edited by jazzy939: Feb 4 2009, 08:18 AM

JohnMax,
May be this would help.

DCA's AN No. 5




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In a nutshell:
Extracts from BCAR Section L. Please read and understand the whole requirements.
I highlighted in bold items that you need to be well aware of.

Download here.

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2 Eligibility

2.1 Prior to the grant/extension of a Licence an applicant shall be not less than:
a) 20 years of age for a LWTR;
b) 21 years of age for a Type Rating.
An application may be made no more than three months in advance of these ages.

2.2 An applicant for the grant/extension of a Licence shall:

a) submit an application which is acceptable in content and presentation;
b) provide evidence of acceptable experience and any training course requirements
relevant to the application;
c) be able to read, write, interpret technical reports and carry out technical
discussions in the English language;
d) reach a satisfactory standard in any examinations required;
e) pay the appropriate fee.

3 Application for a Licence Without Type Rating (LWTR)
3.1 Before applying for the grant or extension of a LWTR, an applicant must have passed
all necessary written examinations as described in Chapter L3.

4 Experience Requirements – LWTR
4.1 Categories – A, C, X and R
Applications for the grant or extension of a Licence in any of these Categories (except
Category ‘X’ – Compass Compensation and Adjustment, for which see paragraph 3.4)
must show confirmed minimum specific periods of aviation maintenance engineering
experience totalling 3 years.

4.1.1 Applications must also show the following minimum experience, which must have
been gained whilst maintaining operating aircraft and not in component workshops or
on static or non-flying aircraft:a) for a Category ‘A’ and/or ‘C’ LWTR, 24 months relating to Airframe and/or Engine
maintenance, 12 months of which must be in the 2 years immediately preceding
the date of application.
b) for any Category ‘R’ and/or ‘X’ LWTR (excluding Category ‘X’ – Compass
Compensation and Adjustment), 24 months related to avionic systems, 12 months
of which must be in the 2 years immediately preceding the date of application.
c) 6 months, within the 12 months referred to in (a) and (b), relevant to the specific
LWTR for which application is being made.

This post has been edited by jazzy939: Feb 4 2009, 08:44 AM

There is a dedicated Engineering Forum with specific threads for trainees from MIAT, Nilai College, APR, AirAsia, MAS and many more... More than here, obviously.

This post has been edited by jazzy939: Feb 5 2009, 06:14 AM

You're welcome lestat, I did that for the intentions of clearing some of the things up.. ANd thanks for mentioning the AN no. 85, I wanted to, but I had no time and need to attend my duties... good work for this 'game'.. I like it!

Yes, I would like to add:

Guy F joined a TAME program with an airline with an 'ab-initio' status recognized by DCA.

This post has been edited by jazzy939: Feb 5 2009, 06:28 AM

Why don't you talk to your Dekan(He was an LAME), or any of the handful of licensed engineers in MIAT that are lecturers there? En. Hyder Shahrom is easy to approach...

After reading the thread and you still don't understand, I'd say 'ada susah lah sikit'…

Its JPA-5AER(A)! Schedule of Inspection Work

JPA-5AER is the Application for Grant/Extension/Renewal of AMEL

You can download it from HERE!!!

You're welcome!

Tell me something, is that critical/mandatory to have?

John,
Don't worry about it. I got the form from DCA's website!

You need 2 years experience on live aircraft. Tell what engineering position is available to allow you to do that?
Where can you do this? Isn't it obvious?

1. Chances are you're on your own. Although I know MIAT is making some arrangements for their students.
2. You have to pay. MAS is charging RM20 per day for MIAT trainees, whilst Transmile is charging RM10 but they provide free lunch.
Pay? Why are you being paid?
3. The reason for the OJT is to gain exposure and experience which is a mandatory requirements. You don't learn to maintain aircrafts just by reading the books! The skills of the trade need to be physically acquired. All experiences gathered are to be recorded in your work schedules book/log/sheets and duly signed for by the designated persons in charge. It is up to the regulatory body to accept it then if it meets their minimum requirements.

Oh really? Says who?

My last conversation with the technical training manager of MAS, he said MAS will be reverting back to BCAR Section L when they're going to re-start apprenticeship training.

I used to work in MAS I am an LAME.

My sources in DCA said that as far as EASA is concerned, there are no requirements as such for us to change/convert. Our BCAR Section L still works and applicable(which I fully agree). TheBCAR Section L is part of MCAR. We need to change/revised the MCAR first, which will take 'some time'...
Even IF DCA were to adopt EASA-66, it is obviously with changes/modifications to suit our requirements and situations, and it is STILL will be DCA's AMEL.
We're NOT part of the EU. There are issues with the EU and there reasons why the need for them to use a common standard, hence the EASA-66.

This post has been edited by jazzy939: Feb 7 2009, 06:50 AM

The ICAO Type II license which our DCA's AMEL is, is still readily accepted especially in the middle east.

IF you wanna work with 9M registered aircrafts, it is suffice to hold the DCA's AMEL.
And you you want to venture out.. go with EASA.

Yes, they can. Especially places where they do it in a 'short' time. Quality vs quantity issues.

Of course! I won't lose any sleep over it!

khye89,
"LWTR is License Without Type Rating you cannot work on aircraft yet, you need to have the type rating."

Not entirely correct. There's no problem about working on the aircraft, it is just that you are not doing any CERTIFICATIONS with regards to release to service, the work and the aircraft.

Here is what I see the EASA licensing is all about.
In a nutshell, it enables technician/mechanics to have license and the authority to certify and /or release aircraft and aircraft related work. Just like the FAA mechanics. Are you an engineer? Not in EASA you don't have to. It's just a position and/or grade in the company that employs you.

This post has been edited by jazzy939: Feb 7 2009, 09:52 PM

I think you heard wrong, obviousy NOT from DCA. They want to change NOTHING!. It is the industry that is pushing them to change!
IF I am DCA, I would say the same thing too, 'Why should I'? Whats wrong with BCAR Section L?

I think the majority of the trainees still haven't the faintest idea about air legislation, let alone the existence of EASA-66 in the first place

lestat,
A good insight and nicely worded as a quick guide to the trainees

IF they are still NOT clear about the approach, the job, the requirements, oh my... GOD help them and the industry..