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Engineering Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (LAME), Guide & everything about this career!

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ezi23
post Feb 9 2009, 06:19 AM

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I think because of there are many ways to obtain the license, that's why MAS (or other airlines training) do not need approval. For a training that do not directly training on live a/c, an approval give more advantages. some of the training school who conduct EASA, i think it also do not need approval from DCA because you going to obtain EASA license. approval give more advantages than non-approval training school. for example EASA 147 training school give an advantage to the student to obtain the license after 2 years experience instead of 5 years. oh ya, for other training school that conduct EASA but not a 147, need to check either you will have advantage for 3 years experience only or not. don't just assume. if not, you still need 5 years experience after that.

i did ask one question about what position to apply if someone finish from 147 with all 147 advantages. what i mean to ask is because I'm not familiar with airlines position like "fitters, mechanic(semi-skill or skill) and technician (junior or others)" or is it any position for a proper(schedule) practical training towards the license.

thank you. and correct me if i'm wrong...

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MAS and other training establishments has been doing the training for a long time.
MIAT was only approved quite recently and the one and only for the time being.
Now tell me, where did ALL the current engineers ( a few hundreds, may be in the thousands already)come from?

Again, you guys NEVER BOTHERED read and understand the AN 5. There isn't a requirement about you coming from an approved training school.
I even took the trouble to attached the AN 5 in my previous posting. Lazy to read?
Go on, read the AN! Hopefully this will be the last you ask such a question... wink.gif

QUOTE(XxAC3xX @ Feb 9 2009, 02:43 AM)
so will thr any problems i mite face if i pursue the course in a non-DCA approved school??
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post Feb 9 2009, 10:41 AM

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If I go to take EASA exam now at British Council, so my valid is only 5 years for my exam papers.

I also need 5 years of experiences? Or 3 years? OJT counted?

That mean If I take now is useless unless I attach to MAS to collect work schedule?

Added on February 9, 2009, 5:01 pmAnd also who know Lim Chee Cheng (i not sure how to spell) is at which HPL currently??

Need some help from him. biggrin.gif

Added on February 9, 2009, 7:55 pmWhy there is no AirAsia TAME over here? They not interested in Foruming?

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post Feb 9 2009, 10:48 PM

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azameel, john, ezi, AC3, and lurkers..

I used simple words to explain/answer questions so that those who have no idea what is air legislation all about (or who don't read it!) can understand what to do/how to be a LAME. I can also get very technical with u guys about the requirements, qualifications, laws, DCA, BCAR, EASA, 66, 145,147 and all sort of things that u guys probably have never heard before. but me n jazzy here just can't stress enough how important for u to know what u read in your program/training now. think twice what u are about to say about factual stuff to avoid misunderstanding, confusion n/or make yourself look stupid. beware when your sentence start with "i think..", "i guess..". "correct me if im worng" is also widely abused term. LAME jokes don't really work here too laugh.gif

to spm leavers, this forum is the next best advisor for u if u ask the right question. the best way is do your own research and ask what u don't understand. this thread start off with DCA, EASA, BCAR, blabla... no one really bother to ask about what these stuff mean. my 'smart' guess is, u guys know what u talking about. even spm leavers are using these acronyms when they ask questions. so, u'll get 'smart' answer for appearing asking 'smart' questions.

ezi, really, there're not many ways to get license, but there are many places to go to get them. those interested just need to answer this question, WHICH COUNTRY'S LICENSE THAT U WANT? Malaysia? or some other country? only then, someone can really tell u how to get it.

QUOTE(JohnMax @ Feb 9 2009, 10:41 AM)
If I go to take EASA exam now at British Council, so my valid is only 5 years for my exam papers.

I also need 5 years of experiences? Or 3 years? OJT counted?

That mean If I take now is useless unless I attach to MAS to collect work schedule?

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john, u understand what is EASA, right? OJT? no one says anything about OJT. which category of license u plan to apply? A, B, C or D? whistling.gif


wusuhong, going to Nilai, right? so this list is for u. now READ! whistling.gif
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post Feb 9 2009, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Lestat @ Feb 9 2009, 10:48 PM)
john, u understand what is EASA, right? OJT? no one says anything about OJT. which category of license u plan to apply? A, B, C or D? whistling.gif
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I understand some how. Confuse with what Mas instuctor said. I read AME Licensing Guidance Document Sect D. It did not say anything about OJT. License plan to aaply is B1.1.
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post Feb 10 2009, 12:10 AM

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lestat where can i get those books,i cant find online or even popular.
can aldo advice what to start first?
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post Feb 10 2009, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(Lestat @ Feb 9 2009, 10:48 PM)
azameel, john, ezi, AC3, and lurkers..

I used simple words to explain/answer questions so that those who have no idea what is air legislation all about (or who don't read it!) can understand what to do/how to be a LAME. I can also get very technical with u guys about the requirements, qualifications, laws, DCA, BCAR, EASA, 66, 145,147 and all sort of things that u guys probably have never heard before. but me n jazzy here just can't stress enough how important for u to know what u read in your program/training now. think twice what u are about to say about factual stuff to avoid misunderstanding, confusion n/or make yourself look stupid. beware when your sentence start with "i think..", "i guess..". "correct me if im worng" is also widely abused term. LAME jokes don't really work here too laugh.gif

to spm leavers, this forum is the next best advisor for u if u ask the right question. the best way is do your own research and ask what u don't understand. this thread start off with DCA, EASA, BCAR, blabla... no one really bother to ask about what these stuff mean. my 'smart' guess is, u guys know what u talking about. even spm leavers are using these acronyms when they ask questions. so, u'll get 'smart' answer for appearing asking 'smart' questions.

ezi, really, there're not many ways to get license, but there are many places to go to get them. those interested just need to answer this question, WHICH COUNTRY'S LICENSE THAT U WANT? Malaysia? or some other country? only then, someone can really tell u how to get it.
john, u understand what is EASA, right? OJT? no one says anything about OJT. which category of license u plan to apply? A, B, C or D? whistling.gif
wusuhong, going to Nilai, right? so this list is for u. now READ! whistling.gif
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beware of mild dose of technical materials in this post.
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hi,
As a spm leaver here we don't really know wad is DCA EASA part 66, 147, can u pls explain me wad is the different between EASA part 66 and 147? NILAI is EASA 66 approved but not DCA, but MIAT is DCA only?
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QUOTE(wusuhong @ Feb 10 2009, 12:10 AM)
lestat where can i get those books,i cant find online or even popular.
can aldo advice what to start first?
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I also finding aviation books at the pass. And I found it only in Kinokuniya Book Store. MPH, Popular, Boardest.... didt have.

And one more place I found these books, is at my school library. Hehe
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post Feb 10 2009, 02:26 AM

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oic can i download these books?
ezi23
post Feb 10 2009, 02:26 AM

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hehehe..sorry for used the words "i think", and "correct me if i'm wrong". i just don't want want people take my word as a fact unless someone can clarify it. i just want to give a rough idea.

and i admit about there's not many way to get the license even though i means the same thing about the places and everything but to avoid misunderstanding for others, thank you for clarify it.

and i understand as well about which country license to get. but one thing i consider are which country license that most acceptable around the world. and i know DCA license is one of them. so do EASA license is acceptable to convert to Malaysia license.

anyway, this is not my question that i ask before but thanks for the comments...
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post Feb 10 2009, 02:28 AM

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can anyone tell me what book nilai is using and if may u can send me some copy i will pay u .
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post Feb 10 2009, 02:58 AM

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and to john, i know your position right now. it's normal you getting confused with terms "OJT", "practical" or "experience" and you try to mix up everything. if u going to sit EASA exams only, why u need OJT for? OJT is normally apply to training school as a requirement to get your training school's certificate/diploma. things about the DCA/EASA requirement is important, but for someone who want to make a first step in this career, i know u guys want the best for your way to get the license especially for those who don't have a chance to enter aTAME programme.

and because it's not easy to get the answer that u want in here, so my advise is choose your first step, know exactly what u going to do next and if u have a doubt, then ask. because i can see people over here don't like anyone asking a question that u can know the answer by "knowing" what u going to do.
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post Feb 10 2009, 07:34 PM

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if u going to sit EASA exams only, why u need OJT for? OJT is normally apply to training school as a requirement to get your training school's certificate/diploma.


what do you mean by this? u mean to take the exam only or to get the license no need ojt?
look in the ELGD and look at section D2.1 anf D3.3.
what does that mean?
ojt is the same as experience, am i right?
in term of trainee or student

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post Feb 11 2009, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(ezi23 @ Feb 6 2009, 04:26 AM)
hi guys, i also have one question...if someone just finish 147 approval training school, and she/he still need a 2 years experience to get the license, what position that she/he should apply? is it any airlines in Malaysia that can provide a training (a good 2 years experience) towards the license? maybe a proper training like TAME but it cut to 2 years only with practical training only because she/he already got all the module..
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ezi, i have to dig deep to read ur question.
it really depends on a company interest. MAS can't really use u straight away, so less interest there.
i only have one friend that i know well and he came from a 147 school in UK. wasted a good 2 years before got hired by transmile n start collecting experience.

wusuhong,
these books are very hard to get. i never bought one off the shelf. i got some from my previous school, some xerox, some digital copy. some can be downloaded from FAA website. and lots of self-brain-cracked notes. u can look here too, BOOKS


hakunamatata,
LAME got his license from the aviation authority body of a country to do his duty only on the aircraft registered in that country. that is DCA for Malaysia, CAA for UK, blablablablabah. to keep story short, EASA is a body that responsible for many things in civil aviation in europe countries. it's an agency of the EU and non-EU countries adopt its rules and procedures on a voluntary basis.
EASA part 66 - certifying staff
EASA part 145 - maintenance organization approval
EASA part 147 - training organization approval
these are regulations u see flaunted most here.

EASA approved training school enjoy privileges given by EASA. license give out by the country that conduct the exam that u sit.
DCA approved training school enjoy privileges given by DCA.... which conduct exam in malaysia n of course malaysia license lah.

don't be mistaken between EASA aprroved training school(ie. AST UK) and EASA exam center(ie. british council,KL).

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alrite, jz updated abit, any corrections n additional infos do notify me!

thx 4 ur contributions.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(wusuhong @ Feb 10 2009, 02:28 AM)
can anyone tell me what book nilai is using and if may u can send me some copy i will pay u .
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hi wusuhong.. u're goin to nilai rite? Is it true nilai dun hv march intake for this year? vmad.gif
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QUOTE(azameel @ Feb 10 2009, 07:34 PM)
what do you mean by this? u mean to take the exam only or to get the license no  need ojt?
look in the ELGD and look at section D2.1 anf D3.3.
what does that mean?
ojt is the same as experience, am i right?
in term of trainee or student
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hehehe..i don't know how to explain. but let put this way. follow the ELGD, to get the license, you need practical experience right. how u get experience is up to u. working, OJT, or work for free, all count as experience. so if someone study in college, OJT is one of the requirement to get the certificate/dip. same like other uni use the terms "practical".
for some who plan to get a job, and just take a exam, of course u don't need an OJT right. because u going to work to get experience, not an on job training. but for apprentice (i mean most of it, not all of it), OJT terms is use for all your practical training towards your license. so depend which way u follow, OJT might be important to u, and might be not.

Added on February 11, 2009, 1:44 am
QUOTE(Lestat @ Feb 11 2009, 12:11 AM)
ezi, i have to dig deep to read ur question.
it really depends on a company interest. MAS can't really use u straight away, so less interest there.
i only have one friend that i know well and he came from a 147 school in UK. wasted a good 2 years before got hired by transmile n start collecting experience.

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thanks for the answer. it depends on company interest right. it's something that we cannot plan to. just hope luck will be better. hehehe...

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ezi23, we are in the same train smile.gif
that is what i meant, but you ellaborate it well

XxAC3xX, i think you add this

Experience can be gained either by OJT (On Job Training) or Practical or Working
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ya i am going this may,but i dont know whether they cancel march intake or not.

anybody going to nilai this may?
we can met up and go together
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post Feb 11 2009, 05:01 AM

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azameel, i know u understand well. u just want to make my life harder. hehehe...

but anyway, maybe how i present is not so good. so please do help me (especially in English).

thanks for any comments or critics from LAME, and friends in here..

cheers...
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