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post Jul 11 2012, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Jul 11 2012, 08:29 AM)
Copper pipe is brazing. Not solder or weld. Dont bend it I agree. Warp the outlet with muskin tape and outdoor side put plastic bag. Get your AC installer to vacuum kao kao during installation. Just leave it there and dont cut. Poor brazing work will result in leakage. What they do in factory is that after they braze the will usually test the brazing point with a 450 to 600 psi pressure depending on pipe thickness. I doubt that your AC man can do that. Do not cut.
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post Jul 11 2012, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(bat11 @ Jul 11 2012, 08:27 AM)
Really sorry for the confusion. Actually I need to install 7 units of aircond : 1 2.5HP Cassette (according to my contractor, the installation cost is the same as 3HP, so, he quote me 3HP price), 3 1.5HP and 3 1HP. Very headache now. Install aircond also damn expensive!
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Added on July 11, 2012, 8:28 am

Thanks for the contact.
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Actually, the amount of work to install 2.5 or 3.o is the same, just the 3.o compressor may b heavier, and need to top up more gas as the piping size bigger, thus cost a little bit More

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post Jul 11 2012, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(bat11 @ Jul 11 2012, 08:27 AM)
Really sorry for the confusion. Actually I need to install 7 units of aircond : 1 2.5HP Cassette (according to my contractor, the installation cost is the same as 3HP, so, he quote me 3HP price), 3 1.5HP and 3 1HP. Very headache now. Install aircond also damn expensive!
Your piping so long, sure expensive. Have you consider losses? 1HP at that length may not get any power when reach the blower.

My previous company, need 30000btu, but the compressor is 5 level below, total length is about 90ft and the HVAC expert advise minimal 36k BTUs, we end up getting about 40k BTUs and is just nice.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 11 2012, 09:45 AM)
Your piping so long, sure expensive. Have you consider losses? 1HP at that length may not get any power when reach the blower.

My previous company, need 30000btu, but the compressor is 5 level below, total length is about 90ft and the HVAC expert advise minimal 36k BTUs, we end up getting about 40k BTUs and is just nice.
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Sorry, I am not good in this. May I know what is BTU?
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post Jul 11 2012, 10:16 AM

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Uncle Google will give you more explain.smart phone is not fun to type.
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post Jul 11 2012, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 11 2012, 09:09 AM)
Oh my, you remember me back when I work in 1 of the aircon manufacturing. Yes the process of condenser(indoor) and evaporator (outdoor) is brazing the copper pipe together. Than pump high pressure air into it and put into the fish tank. Check for the bubble leakage. Than take back and repair again. Even we using this method of checking on the compressor.
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Haha. They call it the 'pressure dip tank'. Checking compressor normally they hod pressure with bubble soap on the joints. Else, they will use more high tech machine. They call it the leakage checker.


Added on July 11, 2012, 12:41 pm
QUOTE(skng03 @ Jul 11 2012, 09:32 AM)
Actually, the amount of work to install 2.5 or 3.o is the same, just the 3.o compressor may b heavier, and need to top up more gas as the piping size bigger, thus cost a little bit More
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Not necessarily. 3HP might not need a bigger piping size. Check spec. Also check your AC spec to see what is the standard piping length. Within this standard piping length, there is no need to add on the refrigerant. Do not exceed the max allowable piping length. Once exceed, you will have compressor oil return problem. Installation work for all 'residential' AC is the same. Work is the same. The cost difference is because of the piping length and type, and also the location of the AC. If it is difficult to access, AC installer wants higher price. For 'residential' AC, you do not need to top up gas if your piping length does not exceed the standard piping length. Take note and dont get conned.


Added on July 11, 2012, 12:47 pm
QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 11 2012, 09:45 AM)
Your piping so long, sure expensive. Have you consider losses? 1HP at that length may not get any power when reach the blower.

My previous company, need 30000btu, but the compressor is 5 level below, total length is about 90ft and the HVAC expert advise minimal 36k BTUs, we end up getting about 40k BTUs and is just nice.
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Of course there is always a de-rating value which is not always available in the catalogue. 90ft = 27m. That is a long one plus outdoor unit is at the bottom. Unless you are using single split packaged unit (cassettes, ducted, ceiling exposed), there will be no single split wall mounted that can allow piping length that long. So design the location wise. Putting the compressor at the top helps in your case.

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post Jul 11 2012, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(michaellks @ Jul 7 2012, 09:10 PM)
I've just bought myself 4 MHI (Deluxe series) air-conds. 3 SRK10 and 1 SRK19.... Hopefully it's the right decision. Sales person claimed the SRK19 (2HP) can blow up to 18meters away.
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do u hv warranty card?1+5 years warranty rite?i just called the sales person,he said mhi no need warranty card,just follow the receipt.....urs one same senario?just wonder...
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post Jul 11 2012, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(khieni @ Jul 11 2012, 01:59 PM)
do u hv warranty card?1+5 years warranty rite?i just called the sales person,he said mhi no need warranty card,just follow the receipt.....urs one same senario?just wonder...
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Erm, I haven't gotten my air conds yet (just placed the deposit during the fair) as my house renovation isn't up to the stage where the air cond should come in, so I've no idea about it. But it sounds absurd to not have a warranty card. I think you should insist on that warranty card dude.
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post Jul 12 2012, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(michaellks @ Jul 11 2012, 08:31 PM)
Erm, I haven't gotten my air conds yet  (just placed the deposit during the fair) as my house renovation isn't up to the stage where the air cond should come in, so I've no idea about it. But it sounds absurd to not have a warranty card. I think you should insist on that warranty card dude.
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Added on July 12, 2012, 8:36 amdear all, hv u ever considered portable aircond?

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post Jul 12 2012, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(khieni @ Jul 12 2012, 08:35 AM)
oic, tq.


Added on July 12, 2012, 8:36 amdear all, hv u ever considered portable aircond?
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Any advantage?
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post Jul 12 2012, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 12 2012, 09:43 AM)
Any advantage?
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benefit is u just buy one aircond and use it everywhere....

the drawbk,i think how to dissipate heat

i m considering, hvnt buy yet

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post Jul 12 2012, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(khieni @ Jul 12 2012, 02:09 PM)
benefit is u just buy one aircond and use it everywhere....

the drawbk,i think how to dissipate heat

i m considering, hvnt buy yet
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after moving here and there for few time you won't even want to move it. Is not light, and you need to put the ducting to blow the heat out. Not sure about efficiency, you may want to check.
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post Jul 12 2012, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(khieni @ Jul 12 2012, 02:09 PM)
benefit is u just buy one aircond and use it everywhere....

the drawbk,i think how to dissipate heat

i m considering, hvnt buy yet
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If I at the hall, I drag the aircon to the hall. Than want to sleep bring up to my bedroom. Is it portable enough for me to carry it up and down in my home?

So where to blow the hot air out?
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post Jul 12 2012, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 12 2012, 04:03 PM)
If I at the hall, I drag the aircon to the hall. Than want to sleep bring up to my bedroom. Is it portable enough for me to carry it up and down in my home?

So where to blow the hot air out?
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haha..sound so comical biggrin.gif ...drag around the house..

I tot of getting one for dining..just in case..Coz of the location of the aircon at the living, by the time dining is cold enough, living may be a liitle too cold for comfort..
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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Jul 12 2012, 08:28 PM)
haha..sound so comical  biggrin.gif ...drag around the house..

I tot of getting one for dining..just in case..Coz of the location of the aircon at the living, by the time dining is cold enough, living may be a liitle too cold for comfort..
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But where going to flow the hot air out? Need a long hose till the window?
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post Jul 12 2012, 09:23 PM

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My panasonic aircond is giving me problem. After ON few seconds - the blower slow down. The service guy said its the capasitor problem @ compressor there . he said its common problem for all airconds after 2 yrs + . Charge me rm 200 to replace it sad.gif
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 12 2012, 10:00 PM)
But where going to flow the hot air out? Need a long hose till the window?
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i also dont know..i think it just went right out the back like our pc....havent survey
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post Jul 12 2012, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Jul 12 2012, 08:28 PM)
haha..sound so comical  biggrin.gif ...drag around the house..

I tot of getting one for dining..just in case..Coz of the location of the aircon at the living, by the time dining is cold enough, living may be a liitle too cold for comfort..
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Use standing fan to redirect.


Added on July 12, 2012, 9:37 pm
QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Jul 12 2012, 09:29 PM)
i also dont know..i think it just went right out the back like our pc....havent survey
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Saw a portable unit at Best Denki, it got a big flexi hose, think 6" and about 15 to 20' you can redirect.

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post Jul 12 2012, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 12 2012, 10:36 PM)
Use standing fan to redirect.


Added on July 12, 2012, 9:37 pm

Saw a portable unit at Best Denki, it got a big flexi hose, think 6" and about 15 to 20' you can redirect.
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Ok thanks, I will go and see..but wont buy now..need to buy other necessity first.. tongue.gif
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post Jul 12 2012, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Jul 12 2012, 10:16 PM)
Ok thanks, I will go and see..but wont buy now..need to buy other necessity first.. tongue.gif
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