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post Oct 3 2007, 01:57 AM, updated 19y ago

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You know those houses ? With automatic gates that are controlled by controllers ?
If you're to ask an engineer to make one for you, how much will the whole thing including the installation costs ?
A separated value would be great ...
Like how much for the gate and how much for the actual installation smile.gif

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post Oct 3 2007, 02:02 AM

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Depends whether your gate can support.

Also, price vary depending on the type you have in mind. There's the sliding version and the regular open outwards type and also whether you want to wire it to some lighting.

Mine costs about RM2k for the new gate and autogate system when I reno my home 2 years ago.
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What kind of engineers are you talking about?

You need engineers to pull wire, do tiling work, make the gate, install the electrical parts, etc.

Anyway, I'm moving this into Properties discussion.
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QUOTE(kons @ Oct 3 2007, 07:04 AM)
What kind of engineers are you talking about?

You need engineers to pull wire, do tiling work, make the gate, install the electrical parts, etc.

Anyway, I'm moving this into Properties discussion.
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Actually you dont need to, because I only need to know the exact cost of the whole thing.
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I asked them already, RM1K+ to install the auto open on your existing gate. <--- Won't last long IMO.

Gate nowadays belly expensive, mid-end ones already RM10K. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(SeeD @ Oct 3 2007, 08:26 AM)
Actually you dont need to, because I only need to know the exact cost of the whole thing.
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The cost of the gate itself would depend on what kind of gate you want, and what is the size of the gate.

Nobody here can give you the exact cost unless they know what you need and what is the measurement.
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post Oct 5 2007, 11:12 AM

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One more thing not to forget is the warranty of the Auto gate and axtra remote controls. smile.gif

Choose the design of the automatic gate wisely too.
Normal gate style (opens outwardly), long sliding style and Folding style.
Those sliding style one usually will have a small gate for you to open for people to come in. without opening the gate.

Not sure of the exact prices tho.
You can try yellow pages or ask a few friends for recommendation.
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Well, I'm not trying to be funny but Im trying to install one myself, in my own home.
Since I've studied so much automation related subject. I'd think putting them into use would be great.
My dad quite agreed though, he asked about costs so ...
I searched the internet before sensors can costs from 50 to I have no idea how expensive they can be.
As for the gate openers, they costs 700 USD cheapest. laugh.gif

I'll appreciate it if anybody could give any answer to the question above.


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Those auto gate not sure they come with how many remote. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(zeist @ Oct 7 2007, 01:47 PM)
Those auto gate not sure they come with how many remote.  unsure.gif
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At least 2.

Strictly speaking, the autogate mechanism only cost RM2-3k inclusive of installation.

Why want to do it on your own?

The manufacturer spend hundreds on thousands on R&D, do you think you could emulate that on your own?
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Anyone here knows about any local autogate company websites with a catalogue of different gate types/mechanisms and their respective price?

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QUOTE(zeist @ Oct 7 2007, 01:47 PM)
Those auto gate not sure they come with how many remote.  unsure.gif
Make your own remote controller?

QUOTE(scorgio @ Oct 7 2007, 01:51 PM)
At least 2.

Strictly speaking, the autogate mechanism only cost RM2-3k inclusive of installation.

Why want to do it on your own?

The manufacturer spend hundreds on thousands on R&D, do you think you could emulate that on your own?
Hmmm RM 2 - 3k huh, I'll check around in Malaysia to see what I can do.
It's not about emulating anything now. It's about applying what I've studied into use, not into waste like the rest of the population in Malaysia smile.gif

QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Oct 7 2007, 02:56 PM)
Anyone here knows about any  local autogate company websites with a catalogue of different gate types/mechanisms and their respective price?
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http://www.gatedepot.com
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post Oct 7 2007, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Oct 7 2007, 01:51 PM)
At least 2.

Strictly speaking, the autogate mechanism only cost RM2-3k inclusive of installation.

Why want to do it on your own?

The manufacturer spend hundreds on thousands on R&D, do you think you could emulate that on your own?
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You mean to pasang that auto thingy at any gate cost RM2K - RM3K ah? I can get it done for only RM1K. tongue.gif


Added on October 7, 2007, 4:45 pm
QUOTE(SeeD @ Oct 7 2007, 04:15 PM)
Make your own remote controller?

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Same gate you know, if they give only 2 remote, other family members also need mar. This is the problem with auto-gate. sweat.gif


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post Oct 8 2007, 11:03 AM

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remote is a small problem ler...you can always get it duplicated.
anyway for SeeD's case...i rather agree with scorgio about just getting the people to do it.

My friend who is studying Electronic engineering did a house alarm system for my dad..a simple one with remote control...and the cost to make one end up more than purchasing a security set outside. Not to mention it comes with warranty and support too. DIY doesn't mean it'll be cheaper. it depends on the thing that you're building tho..because they mass produce it.

But i totally understand what SeeD meant..
well if time and cost is not a problem...and you're doing it as an interest, just go ahead and DIY it. It's satisfying to see the end result/ product. wink.gif money can't buy it.

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QUOTE(zeist @ Oct 7 2007, 04:44 PM)
You mean to pasang that auto thingy at any gate cost RM2K - RM3K ah? I can get it done for only RM1K.  tongue.gif

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I was referring to the more reliable brands.

RM1k also got. But what brand? RM600 for the motor & remote set I also saw b4.

Just make sure the motor & other mechanism is durable lah. If not, more headache than convenience.

The labour to install autogate is already RM2-300. So left RM7-800 for the set of machine.

U do the math. smile.gif

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post Oct 9 2007, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Oct 7 2007, 04:44 PM)
Same gate you know, if they give only 2 remote, other family members also need mar. This is the problem with auto-gate.  sweat.gif
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My autogate came with 3 remotes... so 2 for the car drivers everyone else gets a key for the small door... once they're in the house there is a switch if they wanna open the autogate.

Third remote is a spare... smile.gif
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Oct 9 2007, 12:24 AM)
I was referring to the more reliable brands.

RM1k also got. But what brand? RM600 for the motor & remote set I also saw b4.

Just make sure the motor & other mechanism is durable lah. If not, more headache than convenience.

The labour to install autogate is already RM2-300. So left RM7-800 for the set of machine.

U do the math. smile.gif
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RM1K 'Pau Ka Liao' laugh.gif

I know there are some problematic auto gate, my friend's one need to tarik hard, like trying to pull a bull out from his house. sweat.gif


Added on October 9, 2007, 4:26 pm
QUOTE(aaronpang @ Oct 9 2007, 10:35 AM)
My autogate came with 3 remotes... so 2 for the car drivers everyone else gets a key for the small door... once they're in the house there is a switch if they wanna open the autogate.

Third remote is a spare...  smile.gif
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Got small door then different story. But if without small door I think is a belly big problem ler. Now not sure want to install or not. sweat.gif

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Can your automatic gates capable of manually open ?
Say no electricity or something. Then you manually open the gate instead of ... well you know what I meant.
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QUOTE(zeist @ Oct 9 2007, 04:25 PM)
RM1K 'Pau Ka Liao'  laugh.gif

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Ya lah. What I meant was, after deducting the labour. What do you expect from a RM800 machine?
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QUOTE(zeist @ Oct 9 2007, 04:25 PM)
Got small door then different story. But if without small door I think is a belly big problem ler. Now not sure want to install or not. sweat.gif
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Either you install a small door next to your gate or cut the existing gate and put one in... most metal/grill shops do the cutting and fitting.

Cost mine was cheap RM100 but that was done as part of larger renovation work...

QUOTE(SeeD @ Oct 10 2007, 10:35 AM)
Can your automatic gates capable of manually open ?
Say no electricity or something. Then you manually open the gate instead of ... well you know what I meant.
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My contractor told me if no power not to force the autogate open because I could damage it... not sure if its true but I'm not tempting fate unsure.gif

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Oct 10 2007, 01:34 PM)
Ya lah. What I meant was, after deducting the labour. What do you expect from a RM800 machine?
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I think I cancel off this plan first, or I'll do this later. hmm.gif


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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Oct 10 2007, 03:08 PM)
Either you install a small door next to your gate or cut the existing gate and put one in... most metal/grill shops do the cutting and fitting.
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Hehe, I saw there are a few houses doing this as well. But I think I'll do this last/later. Might just change the original gate to some stylish wooden gate. No need auto open also nevermind ler. hands.gif

What gate are you using? The steel/alumminium type cost around RM10K+ <--- too pricey, depending on design. I saw a wooden one also belly nice, where you can flip. I think this is the latest trend now. icon_idea.gif



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QUOTE(zeist @ Oct 11 2007, 04:47 PM)
Hehe, I saw there are a few houses doing this as well. But I think I'll do this last/later. Might just change the original gate to some stylish wooden gate. No need auto open also nevermind ler. hands.gif

What gate are you using?
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Just a regular steel gate from the developer... I wanted an autogate because it helps that I don't have to keep running to and from the fron gate just to park my car every morning and when I come home in the evening.

Getting lazy sweat.gif

QUOTE(zeist @ Oct 11 2007, 04:47 PM)
The steel/alumminium type cost around RM10K+ <--- too pricey, depending on design. I saw a wooden one also belly nice, where you can flip. I think this is the latest trend now.  icon_idea.gif
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I don't think its steel/alu its stainless steel and yup costs a lot of money...

In a cost scale its the most expensive:-
Normal Steel - moneyflies.gif
Wraught Iron - moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif
Stainless Steel - moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif

I kept the original developer installed gate because it would be such a waste to throw it away... might as well use it for a few years and when its rusty and broken down then I'll buy a new gate tongue.gif
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Oww... So there are 3 types of steel gate. brows.gif

- Normal Steel
- Wraught Iron
- Stainless Steel

What about wood made gate? brows.gif

Those steel gate are too belly expensive, spending on gate alone RM10K+ is insane, that's why I'm considering wood gate now, they look belly nice too.

No point spending so much on gate it is just some ornamental thing and it is placed outside of the house somemore. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(zeist @ Oct 12 2007, 11:53 AM)
Oww... So there are 3 types of steel gate.  brows.gif

- Normal Steel
- Wraught Iron
- Stainless Steel

What about wood made gate?  brows.gif

Those steel gate are too belly expensive, spending on gate alone RM10K+ is insane, that's why I'm considering wood gate now, they look belly nice too.

No point spending so much on gate it is just some ornamental thing and it is placed outside of the house somemore.  sweat.gif
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Normal steel is what the majority of Malaysian homes have installed... including me because it's cheap biggrin.gif

Wrought Iron and Stainless Steel - there is a reason for the extra cost... besides looks.

Both are made from stronger, better materials and is more durable to the elements compared to Normal Steel or Wooden Gates. Additionally maintenance wise Stainless Steel doesn't need to be painted every few years to prevent rust and decay.

Choose a gate that suites your house looks and your budget, if you like the wooden gate go for it.
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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Oct 12 2007, 01:21 PM)
Normal steel is what the majority of Malaysian homes have installed... including me because it's cheap biggrin.gif

Wrought Iron and Stainless Steel - there is a reason for the extra cost... besides looks.

Both are made from stronger, better materials and is more durable to the elements compared to Normal Steel or Wooden Gates. Additionally maintenance wise Stainless Steel doesn't need to be painted every few years to prevent rust and decay.

Choose a gate that suites your house looks and your budget, if you like the wooden gate go for it.
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Hehe extra reason like..? Quality? You pay for what you get? tongue.gif

Aww, I didn't know about the stainless steel gate able to prevent rust and decay, before this I know nothing about steel gate... sweat.gif I think I might consider this stainless steel gate... I'll put in the list. hands.gif

Thanks for the info. biggrin.gif
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auto gate can be manually open wan no problem. usually most comes with a key, so when no power, use the key to open the bottom lock mechanism. but only 1 side can open la....
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QUOTE(zeist @ Oct 11 2007, 04:47 PM)
I think I cancel off this plan first, or I'll do this later.  hmm.gif


Added on October 11, 2007, 4:50 pm

Hehe, I saw there are a few houses doing this as well. But I think I'll do this last/later. Might just change the original gate to some stylish wooden gate. No need auto open also nevermind ler. hands.gif

What gate are you using? The steel/alumminium type cost around RM10K+ <--- too pricey, depending on design. I saw a wooden one also belly nice, where you can flip. I think this is the latest trend now.  icon_idea.gif
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wow... expensive.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(chloelew @ Oct 19 2007, 10:16 AM)
auto gate can be manually open wan no problem. usually most comes with a key, so when no power, use the key to open the bottom lock mechanism. but only 1 side can open la....
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I see, thanks for the info. wink.gif


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wow... expensive.. sad.gif
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Life is like that lor, you want nice stuff, you need to spend more. nod.gif

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wow, great to know ppl are discussing this.

I found 2 websites about autogate in M'sia, reasonable price.

My contractor adviced me to use "MAG" quoted me RM1700* w 1 year waranty. But I asked for a straight quote from MAG is only Rm1600*. He said he's using this brand for 3 years w no prob.
http://www.magnet.com.my/products/Autogate...uct/AG_main.htm

Then I found out another one from the newspaper, seems popular, said to be reputable Taiwan Brand. This one with installation is about RM2K +. Hav not get quotation. This model quite interesting coze comes with Alarm.

http://www.jackpro.com.my/

Anyone, using any of the 2 brand above? Or any frens/relatives, got any feedback? product repu good not?



* excluding wiring


Added on October 23, 2007, 9:25 am
QUOTE(marchkingdom @ Oct 22 2007, 04:20 PM)
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alrite, Jackpro quoted me Rm1700 w installation (no wiring work). This one comes w Alarm sensor + Hitachi backup batt. Quite atractive.... but never heard of this brand from frens wor. Anybody out there can share?

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MAG more reliable


Added on October 23, 2007, 11:52 amMAG more reliable

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Which type of autogate more reliable?
1. folding gate
2. swing gate
3. sliding gate

and how are the price range for these 3?
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QUOTE(nj922 @ Mar 30 2008, 11:52 AM)
Which type of autogate more reliable?
1. folding gate
2. swing gate
3. sliding gate

and how are the price range for these 3?
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My opposite neighbour using folding gate, I think is pretty chunted. IMO, go for swing or folding. Sliding is freaking old and will give alot of problems.
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Wow I think I must lepak here more often... got so many stuff I ngam also.. btw, anybody installed the auto gate with those stainless steel arm type? Which is more durable? Coz I've seen my neighbors doing sliding and arm type, but my neighbor said usually he request the technician to service the sensor panel and the arms once a every year.. so far no problem, but he refused to recommend me.. funny shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Jenn77 @ May 3 2008, 02:47 AM)
Wow I think I must lepak here more often... got so many stuff I ngam also.. btw, anybody installed the auto gate with those stainless steel arm type? Which is more durable? Coz I've seen my neighbors doing sliding and arm type, but my neighbor said usually he request the technician to service the sensor panel and the arms once a every year.. so far no problem, but he refused to recommend me.. funny  shakehead.gif
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hi, my dad's lighting business includes MAG autogate. RM1700 includes conceal wiring and everything. Pm me if interested, sorry for the hijack.

Stainless steel is more durable coz when its raining, it won't get rusty.
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QUOTE(zeist @ Oct 12 2007, 11:53 AM)
Oww... So there are 3 types of steel gate.  brows.gif

- Normal Steel
- Wraught Iron
- Stainless Steel

What about wood made gate?  brows.gif

Those steel gate are too belly expensive, spending on gate alone RM10K+ is insane, that's why I'm considering wood gate now, they look belly nice too.

No point spending so much on gate it is just some ornamental thing and it is placed outside of the house somemore.  sweat.gif
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sorry to spoil your mood, wooden gate is quite expensive which on par as wrought iron gate. tongue.gif you know why, the woods are not those normal cheap woods. imagine the wooden gate is made from cheapo woods, after few months if weeks, there will be mushroom growing already.


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I have taken over the web design to Jackpro and will recreate a 3D version web display, incidentally, I should answer a question about the manufacturer is Malaysia and Taiwan.

For your info, their expertise is to combine both security alarm & auto gate, the uniqueness is the gate system that utilize less parts thus less troublesome.

One thing I know is that if you have ever use an auto gate before, you will doubt its reliability after 2 years, and you will give up on the concealed type that one component failure will lead to another due to related mechanism.

The owner used to be just an installer to the older type but has re-invented a new system with Taiwanese engineer because local manufacturer is old and dictate the market in the past.

So, if you are going to use auto gate in your life, you may try a few in the span of 10 years and found yourself settle on one type but I am not promoting any brand here.

As a 3D web campaign designer, it is my job to study client history and conceive the best possible website commercial for my clients, stay tune in two months from now and see the what 3D website look like.


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wow cool! i think they have the best features for now. they even have safety features. Last time i heard gates also crush people and kids. Freak accidents still happens. Jackpro is good since they have all the features.
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which type of swing type auto gate better? those which underground or arm type better?
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the arm type looks better and lasts longer..but more expensive
im currently using jackpro..solid and stylish
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wat hapen for armtype autogate if children keep jumpin or step on the arm...can it resist the weight? cos i heard fr my fren da arm wil bend and jam internally. is dat true?
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not sure.anybody has experience this b4?
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hmm ... my auto gate is giving me some problem. any idea who should call for repair?
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wats ur prob? mind to share?
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errr ... i think the control board or the receiver got problems. I can't open the door or sometimes the door will open itselfs or close by itselfs ... but now the problem is i can't control the auto gate ... not functiong ... lol

i got 1 contact from my friend and will call him later ... smile.gif

Will recommend to everyone here if that guy is good
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consult your sales agent or the shop where you get your autogate from..they should have contacts..
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consult your sales agent or the shop where you get your autogate from..they should have contacts..
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anyway interested to install autogate or alarm system can check out the link below.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=898239&hl=
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In the past 20 years, the concealed under the floor type can only lasts 2 years and expect to repair here and there until you give up.
It is hard to maintain things under the floor and the type of technology is more than 20 year old, so imaging driving an old car.

There is a significant difference between the popular arm type and if you know a little bit about mechanics, the SCREW system push & retract where the center of rotation is very small and distribute the force evenly along the arm.
The GEAR system put all the force to only one section of the gears, sliding it from one end to another, this require more power to drive it, when the grease thicken through time, you know what will happen next.

The other is the clutch system that controls the speed, Jackpro uses Ampere which is the amount of electricity feed to the motor instead of gears. I was one a sale person 10 years ago that is how I know but now a professional in 3D imaging and revised their website because I owe them a favor last time and stumble upon this thread.

Use this to make comparison and surprise yourself, do tell them you got your information from me and cut the commission but make your complain directly to their two hand phone support line. I don't have anything to do with it. biggrin.gif



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May i know, currently what is the most reliable brand for sliding auto gate system ? Roughly how much ? Thanks !

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No one can really tell which is the most reliable unless they have tried all of them, sometimes you have to look at their specification compare it to your gate.
If you go for a hundred cheaper but they cut material cost in the gate or bad installer that just had a lousy day, then it is luck. The tone of voice by the person in charge also matters.
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Elock swing autogate...Rm 1350...installtion wiring's add Rm 250..worth it?
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currently the arm type abit outdated d.
this is new type of autogate for swing ot folding gate
http://www.goldmark.com.my/GFM905.html

prince range from 1400 - 1700with installation but without the conceal wiring.

i am not the seller or contractor tongue.gif
i just got the quotation from my contractor also
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I already have an auto gate which is forever breaking down on me. Planning to change to a new one. Interested in Jackpro. Can anyone tell me roughly how much is Jackpro? Thanks.
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1.Was wondering if I can only have a gate no option for standalone sidedoor, is there such a gate where I can manually open the gate for people to get in out instead of opening the full gate, without risk of tripping or hitting our heads? I find most of these doors troublesome to get in/out.

2.Also normally how many types of programming are given to these doors, if the gate is 2 piece, can i choose the door to open inwards or outwards, or 1 in 1 out, or partial open?

3.What are the best brands of autogate? Do the Gate & Motor/Logic come together from same maker?

4.How do they do the wiring in order to get power? Any specific things I need to look out for? I don't want short circuit or electric hazards.

5.If I put a lock on the gate, will the gate keep forcing itself to open, thus damaging the motor/gate/lock?

6.If someone accidentally stepped in the way of the gate is there some kind of safety to prevent the person from getting clamped? It's a good safety feature but sometimes you just want to prevent people from getting in...

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As i know, the auto gate system need 1400 to infinity... and the gate is depend what material u want... if u want normal steel gate, that cost not much.
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my autogate system cost me Rm1200 to install. more then 6 months working ok.
I can not control the gate now, problem! and the bad news is I can't find the guy who installed the system liao; maybe he changed his office, watever.

any good guy to recommend?
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QUOTE(advocado @ Feb 23 2009, 01:30 PM)
1.Was wondering if I can only have a gate no option for standalone sidedoor, is there such a gate where I can manually open the gate for people to get in out instead of opening the full gate, without risk of tripping or hitting our heads? I find most of these doors troublesome to get in/out.

2.Also normally how many types of programming are given to these doors, if the gate is 2 piece, can i choose the door to open inwards or outwards, or 1 in 1 out, or partial open?

3.What are the best brands of autogate? Do the Gate & Motor/Logic come together from same maker?

4.How do they do the wiring in order to get power? Any specific things I need to look out for? I don't want short circuit or electric hazards.

5.If I put a lock on the gate, will the gate keep forcing itself to open, thus damaging the motor/gate/lock?

6.If someone accidentally stepped in the way of the gate is there some kind of safety to prevent the person from getting clamped? It's a good safety feature but sometimes you just want to prevent people from getting in...
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1. You can have the autogate only open 1 side of the gate to allow simple access.

2. Normal arrangement is to have the gate open out. You can have it open in too but the placement of the motor will be limited by the available width of you gate post. Yes, you can set the gate to open 1 in and 1 out. Howver once you decide on these configurations (both out, both in, one in one out) the pattern is fixed

3. Best - price not an issue FAAC. but for most residential houses a good local brand is sufficient. A very common one out in the market is OAE. Fairly realiable, easy and cheap to get spare parts.
You can find the specification on http://autogatemalaysia.blogspot.com/

4. They just have to draw 3 wires (live, neutral, earth) from your existing Electrical Distribution Board (DB)

5. The only danger with gate crushing is with sliding door system. There is no such danger with Swing Arm system as the closing force of the gate is not extremely high.


Added on June 25, 2009, 12:27 amHere's a description of the different types of system:-
http://autogatemalaysia.blogspot.com/2009/...ystems-arm.html

1. Folding gate most unrealiable as it has the most moving parts (gate hinge, floating hinge, lower track etc). It is also the least secure as the the gate is held in position only at the bottom track.

2. Swing gate is the most common systems around nowadays. As long as the gates has good bearing, properly installed quality arms it is fairly realiable. Underground systems were popular 5 years back but now most of them are being replaced by above ground arm actuators which are not proned to flooding.

3. Sliding gates are the most realiable systems. Just 1 large powerful AC motor driving the whole gate. very few moving parts. Downside is that it is slower as the gate has to travel 11 feet of track and there is the danger of crushing.


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I'm looking for Arm type swing....MAG or Jackpro??

Please advise.
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I'm looking for Arm type swing....MAG or Jackpro??

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MAG & Jackpro are both local brands, you also have the option of DCMOTO, OEA, Radion which are local brands worth considering.
Stay away from Vigitronx (Top Ten Alarm - terrible after sales support) and Telcoma (expensive low end Italian system with very limited installations in malaysia), Low quality problematic products, lousy service

If your budget allows you can also consider Imported products such as Stagnoli, DEA.

Also consider your requirements, e.g. size and weight of your gate, volume of usage. Is your usage light duty or heavy duty? A good system that is properly sized for you gate should last at least 5-7 years before any major maintenance is required (changing motors or gears).

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4. They just have to draw 3 wires (live, neutral, earth) from your existing Electrical Distribution Board (DB)
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i am going to renovate my house soon
the contractor recommend me to install the autogate wiring with 7 cables compare to the normal 3 cables one?

do u know what's the difference between 7 cables and 3 cables?
btw, wats the general cost for the wiring alone? (for 3 cables)

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i am going to renovate my house soon
the contractor recommend me to install the autogate wiring with 7 cables compare to the normal 3 cables one?

do u know what's the difference between 7 cables and 3 cables?
btw, wats the general cost for the wiring alone? (for 3 cables)
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7 wire cable is for more sophisticated gate motors with counter circuitry. i.e. apart from power supplied to energize the motor there would also be signals coming back to the control board to indicate the degree of rotation of the motors. these allow better control of the opening angle, speed of the opening and closing and sensing of obstacles in the gate's path.

If you're going to run wiring and conduit for your gate, then you might as well pull 7 wires instead of 3 as the cost of the extra wires is not going to cost you all that much more.

Cabling cost varies as it depends your gates configuration.
1. distance from gate to electrical source
2. wring running in surface conduit or embed in underground or in walls?
3. Amount of hacking required
4. refinishing of surfaces, e.g. repainting, re-tilling, concrete etc?
5. the type of gate you're planning to install. e.g. Types of gates

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7 wire cable is for more sophisticated gate motors with counter circuitry.  i.e. apart from power supplied to energize the motor there would also be signals coming back to the control board to indicate the degree of rotation of the motors.  these allow better control of the opening angle, speed of the opening and closing and sensing of obstacles in the gate's path. 

If you're going to run wiring and conduit for your gate, then you might as well pull 7 wires instead of 3 as the cost of the extra wires is not going to cost you all that much more.

Cabling cost varies as it depends your gates configuration.
1. distance from gate to electrical source
2. wring running in surface conduit or embed in underground or in walls?
3. Amount of hacking required
4. refinishing of surfaces, e.g. repainting, re-tilling, concrete etc?
5. the type of gate you're planning to install. e.g. Types of gates
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thx for ur feedback
seems like the contractor is not fooling an outsider like me thumbup.gif

however, he quoted me for rm1500 for installation alone, the cost includes:
35ft cabling, hacking the current cement ground, embed it in the ground,
resurface with cement again and install arm gate system

not including re-tiling (will be getting new tiles later on)
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thx for ur feedback
seems like the contractor is not fooling an outsider like me  thumbup.gif

however, he quoted me for rm1500 for installation alone, the cost includes:
35ft cabling, hacking the current cement ground, embed it in the ground,
resurface with cement again and install arm gate system

not including re-tiling (will be getting new tiles later on)
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If it is RM1500 excluding the gate system that is really expensive!

What brand autogate are you getting? You should nego to get the Autogate & Installation together, you'll be able to get a much better price. contact http://autogatemalaysia.blogspot.com/ and tell them that you've been referred online to get a better quote.


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QUOTE(weitatt @ Jul 9 2009, 11:15 AM)
If it is RM1500 excluding the gate system that is really expensive!

What brand autogate are you getting? You should nego to get the Autogate & Installation together, you'll be able to get a much better price.  contact  http://autogatemalaysia.blogspot.com/ and tell them that you've been referred online to get a better quote.
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Yes, RM1500 without the system (arm, motor, gate)
What's the standard price btw?

Need to nego nego with him because we'll let him do take the whole project and get better bargaining power
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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Jul 9 2009, 08:42 AM)
thx for ur feedback
seems like the contractor is not fooling an outsider like me  thumbup.gif

however, he quoted me for rm1500 for installation alone, the cost includes:
35ft cabling, hacking the current cement ground, embed it in the ground,
resurface with cement again and install arm gate system

not including re-tiling (will be getting new tiles later on)
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if i am not mistaken, my wireman charge me about 1.2-1.3K for the concealed armour cable for auto gate, not sure how many wires that this cable got.
expensive ?
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Those price u guys mentioned, does it include the gate itself?
Else how much they cost for the gate alone?
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Those price u guys mentioned, does it include the gate itself?
Else how much they cost for the gate alone?
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nope, the gate depends on what type and size of the gate.
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QUOTE(n73me @ Jul 9 2009, 01:53 PM)
nope, the gate depends on what type and size of the gate.
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roughly how much let say for 20x70 house and norml quality gate?
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if i am not mistaken, my wireman charge me about 1.2-1.3K for the concealed armour cable for auto gate, not sure how many wires that this cable got.
expensive ?
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You'll need the following wires for a typical swing arm installation:-

1. 3-core 240V AC from power source to gate control box.

2. 2-core low voltage signal wire from control box to inside house for gate push-button switch (this is optional, if installing this switch is going to involve hacking and ugly conduits all over the place, then just use the remote)

3. 3-7 core low voltage wire from control box to left motor.

4. 3-7 core low voltage wire from control box to right motor (could be under driveway from post to post). Wiring Diagram

5. Optional : 2-core low voltage wire from control box to solenoid lock. (routed within the gate)

The material cost should not cost more that RM200 -RM300 (wires, conduit, joints, switches, cement etc), all in I would say for a medium size gate if the work can be completed in a day it should not cost more that RM500-RM700. If this work was undertaken by an Autogate installer they'll just factor it in as part of the installation and quote an incremental lump sum

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You'll need the following wires for a typical swing arm installation:-

1. 3-core 240V AC from power source to gate control box.

2. 2-core low voltage signal wire from control box to inside house for gate push-button switch (this is optional, if installing this switch is going to involve hacking and ugly conduits all over the place, then just use the remote)

3. 3-7 core low voltage wire from control box to left motor.

4. 3-7 core low voltage wire from control box to right motor (could be under driveway from post to post). Wiring Diagram

5. Optional : 2-core low voltage wire from control box to solenoid lock. (routed within the gate)

The material cost should not cost more that RM200 -RM300 (wires, conduit, joints, switches, cement etc), all in I would say for a medium size gate if the work can be completed in a day it should not cost more that RM500-RM700.  If this work was undertaken by an Autogate installer they'll just factor it in as part of the installation and quote an incremental lump sum
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thanks for the info.
i am still a bit blur, is the above considered as using normal cable or amour cable ? my wireman told me there is 2 ways of doing the wiring for the front porch, one is to use amour cable, while the other is using many cable, basically a cable for light , a cable for door bell, one for gate, etc.. , can explain more about this ?
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thanks for the info.
i am still a bit blur, is the above considered as using normal cable or amour cable ? my wireman told me there is 2 ways of doing the wiring for the front porch, one is to use amour cable, while the other is using many cable, basically a cable for light , a cable for door bell, one for gate, etc.. , can explain more about this ?
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Armoured cable is expensive and overkill for you simple application. coloured code electrication cable routed through the appropriate conduit is sufficient as the power/amp requirements to power your gate and lights is not all that demanding. For electrical work get multiple quotations as electricians can really charge alot if you don't know what you want. PM me if you would like me to refer you to my trusted electrician. He's certified, fair and does a proper job.
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many thanks for ur information

really appreciate it!!
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hmm ... my auto gate is giving me some problem.  any idea who should call for repair?
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my autogate came with purchasing of the 2nd hand house, the owner told me the guy who installed for him no longer with this business,
so, is it likely to ask others to repair it if the autogate got problem? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Oct 10 2007, 03:08 PM)
Either you install a small door next to your gate or cut the existing gate and put one in... most metal/grill shops do the cutting and fitting.

Cost mine was cheap RM100 but that was done as part of larger renovation work...
My contractor told me if no power not to force the autogate open because I could damage it... not sure if its true but I'm not tempting fate  unsure.gif
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Normally a key is given in the event of power failure.

I fixed mine for RM1200 including installation (armor cable). The motor was german based but all assembled and rest of the part built in Msia. That was back in 2004. Still going strong not a problem.


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QUOTE(asiatrader98 @ Jul 22 2009, 04:07 PM)
my autogate came with purchasing of the 2nd hand house, the owner told me the guy who installed for him no longer with this business,
so, is it likely to ask others to repair it if the autogate got problem? rclxub.gif
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If a quality motor is used, you hardly would face problem with the system. With Swing gate, most encountered problem is the gate alignment due to wear and tear from the movement or children bang the door.

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my autogate came with purchasing of the 2nd hand house, the owner told me the guy who installed for him no longer with this business,
so, is it likely to ask others to repair it if the autogate got problem? rclxub.gif
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You should be able to get other installers to repair your gate provided they have good contacts with autogate suppliers and manufactuers, Spareparts are generally easily available for most major brands of autogate systems. You should check out Autogate Malaysia for details of your gate, spare parts and call to get a quotation.
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Jul 22 2009, 04:15 PM)
Normally a key is given in the event of power failure.

I fixed mine for RM1200 including installation (armor cable). The motor was german based but all assembled and rest of the part built in Msia. That was back in 2004. Still going strong not a problem.


Added on July 22, 2009, 4:20 pm

If a quality motor is used, you hardly would face problem with the system. With Swing gate, most encountered problem is the gate alignment due to wear and tear from the movement or children bang the door.
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You should be able to get other installers to repair your gate provided they have good contacts with autogate suppliers and manufactuers, Spareparts are generally easily available for most major brands of autogate systems.  You should  check out Autogate Malaysia for details of your gate, spare parts and call to get a quotation.
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thank you Veejay & weitatt......... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(marchkingdom @ Oct 22 2007, 04:20 PM)
wow, great to know ppl are discussing this.

I found 2 websites about autogate in M'sia, reasonable price.

My contractor adviced me to use "MAG" quoted me RM1700* w 1 year waranty. But I asked for a straight quote from MAG is only Rm1600*. He said he's using this brand for 3 years w no prob.
http://www.magnet.com.my/products/Autogate...uct/AG_main.htm

Then I found out another one from the newspaper, seems popular, said to be reputable Taiwan Brand. This one with installation is about RM2K +. Hav not get quotation. This model quite interesting coze comes with Alarm.

http://www.jackpro.com.my/

Anyone, using any of the 2 brand above? Or any frens/relatives, got any feedback? product repu good not?
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Added on October 23, 2007, 9:25 am

alrite, Jackpro quoted me Rm1700 w installation (no wiring work). This one comes w Alarm sensor + Hitachi backup batt. Quite atractive.... but never heard of this brand from frens wor. Anybody out there can share?
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There are quite a number of options in the market. Jackpro is a local brand, so is MAG.
They are both quite common brands and have good and bad reviews from the users, mainly it depends on the batch of the product as the components (e.g. motor) varies from batch to batch. If you have the budget you can consider using imported brands like Stagnoli, Telcoma or FAAC, main difference is price (RM2000+) and the quality of the components especially the motors and the gears.

Buying an Autogate is not a easy choice, ideally you want to get a realiable system that will last at least 7+ years. Do your research! You can find details of most of the local system on the following site => Autogate Price, Brochures & Specifications

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Hi,

Since there is so many discussion on autogate, I decided to chirp in and get some opinion. Please give some opinion is this can work.

I am planning to do renovation for my house and got some quote for autogate wiring (only wiring as I will do all the resealing of the cable myself as renovation people can help me do that). However, those quote I think is a bit too much as wiring does not even cost more than RM100. So, I am planning to do some DIY wiring which is something like this.

I plan to pull an armour wire (7/5 core) from my indoor living room switches to the control box outside which is around 25 feets. In my living room switches, there is 1 switch which connects to my outside gate light which I plan to use and reconnect for my autogate as it is already connected to the MCB with power. With this I can already connect the power to the autogate and use the current switch for push button switch. Outside my home, I can pull another 2 armour cables from the control box to the left and right swing arm which is maybe 5 feets and 15 feets respectively. I can also pull a colour code cable from the control box to the outside gate light to light it whenever the autogate is operating.

Possible? Hope can technical people can give some comment as I feel this can be done easily rather than pay a few hundreds for something which is simple. Thanks.
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Of course laying cables is nothing fancy and anybody can do it. The dirty part is to cut the wall, dig the trench and patch everything up as new again. If you can get someone else to do that part for you for free, DIY is a way to go. My electrician charged me rm350 for installing 7 core armour cable from key pad to control box, 5 core from left post to right post. and 2 close-only switches on outside and inside the gate. The autogate supplier quoted me rm500.
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Aug 7 2009, 11:11 AM)
Of course laying cables is nothing fancy and anybody can do it. The dirty part is to cut the wall, dig the trench and patch everything up as new again. If you can get someone else to do that part for you for free, DIY is a way to go. My electrician charged me rm350 for installing 7 core armour cable from key pad to control box, 5 core from left post to right post. and 2 close-only switches on outside and inside the gate. The autogate supplier quoted me rm500.
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If I got quoted rm350 I think is ok. Problem is all quote I got is rm600 and above and they are not willing to lower more than that. I think it is a bit over priced. If your electician can do Selangor area maybe you can let me have his contact. Hehe....
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If I got quoted rm350 I think is ok. Problem is all quote I got is rm600 and above and they are not willing to lower more than that. I think it is a bit over priced. If your electician can do Selangor area maybe you can let me have his contact. Hehe....
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RM600 is pretty steep, however not sure if that price includes the armour cable which comes in many grades.
Anyway I've check with the contractor and he confirms that he can do for under RM350 provided the work is as simple as you've describe. You can get a better deal if you negotiate the work together with installation of the Autogate.

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RM600 is pretty steep, however not sure if that price includes the armour cable which comes in many grades.
Anyway I've check with the contractor which does our condo in TTDI and he confirms that he can do for under RM350 provided the work is as simple as you've describe.  You can get a better deal if you negotiate the work together with installation of the Autogate.
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can have contact?

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Of course laying cables is nothing fancy and anybody can do it. The dirty part is to cut the wall, dig the trench and patch everything up as new again. If you can get someone else to do that part for you for free, DIY is a way to go. My electrician charged me rm350 for installing 7 core armour cable from key pad to control box, 5 core from left post to right post. and 2 close-only switches on outside and inside the gate. The autogate supplier quoted me rm500.
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If my gate is the swing type is the Pkg #5 DC MOTO GFM905 sufficient to cater for the whole gate or do I need to purchase 2 units? I'm a noob.
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If my gate is the swing type is the Pkg #5 DC MOTO GFM905 sufficient to cater for the whole gate or do I need to purchase 2 units? I'm a noob.
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All swing door packages should come with 2 motors, 1 control unit, 1 receiver unit, 3 remotes and the backup battery.


Added on March 22, 2010, 10:02 pmHere's an update on this thread. Avoid Top Ten Alarm Sdn Bhd, very bad & dishonest autogate installers who are not interested in after sale service. They rebrand low end local systems under using the VIGITRONX brand name and pretend to give 2 years warrantee, however in the event you need after sales support the make all sorts of excuses. They also carry the TELCOMA brand under their banner and I really don't have any confidence that they are sincere in developing a long term business.

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weitatt, you're installer or end user ? saw quite a lot of your posting from different website. do you wanna be a conmen ? your condo is fixing what alarm ? the way you talk is like a salesmen. yalor, avoid top ten alarm sdn bhd. do you mean david chin or alvin chin ? both of them are brother. and for your info, the website you recommended also belongs to david, david chin. can try this number 019-6628493 as well. what are you trying to do ? purposely trying to get business for yourself ?
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wow, nice topic here.......im more interested in wooden gate.......without autogate.........how much the most cheapest n reasonable quality i can get hmm.gif im just surveying doing my budget for upcoming house smile.gif
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QUOTE(pilotHans @ Apr 10 2010, 12:04 PM)
wow, nice topic here.......im more interested in wooden gate.......without autogate.........how much the most cheapest n reasonable quality i can get  hmm.gif im just surveying doing my budget for upcoming house  smile.gif
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Get a system that is popular and well supported. For local system try OAE, with over 1,000+ units installed monthly and supported by practically ALL installers in Malaysia, you can't go wrong.

If you really want to get an imported system make sure you get a system that is supported by many local installers and that spare parts are readily available. Don't go too high end as the high end systems are difficult to install and calibrate and the spare parts (e.g. motors, sensors, control boards, gears etc) are hard to obtain and very expensive to repair.

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nowadays a lot of thief use programable remote to open ur gateduring day and night time... any product have prevention on this?
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nowadays a lot of thief use programable remote to open ur gateduring day and night time... any product have prevention on this?
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Ask your installer for a "rolling code" remote control. It will cost more but is more secure than the regular remotes with the DIP switch settings.
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what is the maintenance needed for autogate?
do we need to lube it every once in a while? etc?
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what is the maintenance needed for autogate?
do we need to lube it every once in a while? etc?
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Yes, like all things mechanical an autogate needs to be maintain regularly.

1. The gate bearings need to be lubricated yearly, usually there is a nipple at the top for the gate bearing for you to squirt grease into.

2. If you have an underground system, check the rubber seals and make sure that the motor casing is not flooded.

3. Backup batteries should be replaced every 2 years.

4. The system should be recalibrated (fast, slow, cut-off current, total time-out) every year to make sure that the gate is operating within design parameters

5. The cylinders should be cleaned regularly to ensure that dirt & dust does not get into the mechanism.

6. The electrical terminals and wiring should be checked and tighten regularly.


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my advice. avoid radion. very lousy after sales service. everytime came, small repair charge RM80. regret using it.
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my advice. avoid radion. very lousy after sales service. everytime came, small repair charge RM80. regret using it.
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Autogate systems are quite a commodity item these days. The old brand names like Magnet, Westmark, Radion have all be superceded by systems which are more affordable, reliable & easy to service at a reasonable cost.

Selecting a good, reliable installer is very important. It's like owning a car, when you breakdown in the middle of nowhere you want to make sure that help is just a phone call away. Likewise when your wife is stuck at home on a rainy night and the gate refuses to budge, your autogate guy better be able to help.
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there is a key 2 open the auto gate manually if got power failure.
my problem is i hv lost the key, can any1 advise me as to what action should i take?
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Is anyone using Genius swing type? Cause my contractor is proposing this brand to me. Thanks.
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QUOTE(weitatt @ Jul 8 2009, 03:45 PM)
MAG & Jackpro are both local brands, you also have the option of DCMOTO, OEA, Radion which are local brands worth considering.
Stay away from Vigitronx (Top Ten Alarm - terrible after sales support) and Telcoma (expensive low end Italian system with very limited installations in malaysia), Low quality problematic products, lousy service

If your budget allows you can also consider Imported products such as Stagnoli, DEA.

Also consider your requirements, e.g. size and weight of your gate, volume of usage.  Is your usage light duty or heavy duty? A good system that is properly sized for you gate should last at least 5-7 years before any major maintenance is required (changing motors or gears).
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QUOTE(Ray-Ray @ Apr 3 2011, 05:21 PM)

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All, I have been using Top Ten Alarms services, and just to let you know that the after-sales service that I had receive has been very responsive. At most is mere wait for a day or 2. I suppose it is not fair to put broad stroke to generalize - perhaps your bad experience. That is if you have personally experience after sales service from Top Ten Alarm.


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For home sliding auto gate, any recommended brands. Should go for AC/DC motor type. Kindly advise.
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QUOTE(gabriel han @ Apr 10 2010, 03:18 AM)
weitatt, you're installer or end user ? saw quite a lot of your posting from different website. do you wanna be a conmen ? your condo is fixing what alarm ? the way you talk is like a salesmen. yalor, avoid top ten alarm sdn bhd. do you mean david chin or alvin chin ? both of them are brother. and for your info, the website you recommended also belongs to david, david chin. can try this number 019-6628493 as well. what are you trying to do ? purposely trying to get business for yourself ?
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He is avoiding your questions..... brows.gif

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Hi All,

Can i ask for advise please. I have a contractor quoting me below :-

1) Motor for Autogate - swing type - Mid duty. Cant remember brand - 3 years warranty
2) New Gate - Metal ( about 5" x 10")
3) Build 1 concrete pillar (just one side cos another side got pillar)
4) 6 remote controls
5) All wirings including wiring for Door Bell and Light on the pillar
6) Autogate comes with Alarm function (in case any suspicious ppl, u can sound the gate alarm)

Total Price : RM5k

Is that ok ? thx

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Hi All,

Can i ask for advise please. I have a contractor quoting me below :-

1) Motor for Autogate - swing type - Mid duty. Cant remember brand - 3 years warranty
2) New Gate - Metal ( about 5" x 10")
3) Build 1 concrete pillar (just one side cos another side got pillar)
4) 6 remote controls
5) All wirings including wiring for Door Bell and Light on the pillar
6) Autogate comes with Alarm function (in case any suspicious ppl, u can sound the gate alarm)

Total Price : RM5k

Is that ok ? thx
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Sound reasonable, since it incluced concreate pillar...hope the wiring are Armout cable...

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http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pag...134001629948605

try this.

New Contact: Mr. Tan 010-221 9496; Mr. Soon (Wei) 010-225 9496; Mr.Lim (Xiao Di) 010-226 9496
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Lawrence here~!

My house installed with the GFM-905 DC MOTO autogate, but currently the controller got some problem. SO i would like to buy the controller to replace the old controller, can you help me on this.

You may contact me at 016-4110722.

Thank you!
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Just installed DC MOTO GFM-905 from Spectra Alarm and Autogate System. You may contact Mr. Lim at 019-6237781. Fast and efficient service.
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which brand is good for sliding autogate,my gate is stainless steel and quite heavy...do we need more powerful system for heavier gates,pls help icon_question.gif ,thx
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Hi all,
Could any sifu assist me on my swing-type autogate which running weird - during closing 1 side of the door started its soft-close way too early while the other side closed quickly and fully. The slower side stopped before it is fully closed, alarm sounded a short moment then it started its soft-closing again until it is fully closed.

Contacted the technician and what he did was logical to me:
(1) He tested and set the timing of 1 side of the gate, both opening and closing, it worked well.
(2) Then he tested and set the timing of another side of the gate, both opening and closing, it work well too.
(3) Then the tested a few times opening and closing with either single gate or both gates. The autogate work just fine in front of my eyes - i was totally satisfied and no complaint.

The problem is after around 1/2 an hour when i tested the autogate again it has gone back to the same weird closing condition. I dunno I should laugh or cry. smile.gif

The control panel is like attached picture, setting part got one 1-digit digital display and two push-buttons.

Wish to seek sifu advice so that I can try to set the timing on my own.

Thank you & regards.





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QUOTE(kiywiy @ May 15 2011, 10:14 PM)
Hi all,
Could any sifu assist me on my swing-type autogate which running weird - during closing 1 side of the door started its soft-close way too early while the other side closed quickly and fully. The slower side stopped before it is fully closed, alarm sounded a short moment then it started its soft-closing again until it is fully closed.

Contacted the technician and what he did was logical to me:
(1) He tested and set the timing of 1 side of the gate, both opening and closing, it worked well.
(2) Then he tested and set the timing of another side of the gate, both opening and closing, it work well too.
(3) Then the tested a few times opening and closing with either single gate or both gates. The autogate work just fine in front of my eyes - i was totally satisfied and no complaint.

The problem is after around 1/2 an hour when i tested the autogate again it has gone back to the same weird closing condition. I dunno I should laugh or cry. smile.gif

The control panel is like attached picture, setting part got one 1-digit digital display and two push-buttons.

Wish to seek sifu advice so that I can try to set the timing on my own.

Thank you & regards.
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my panel is the old type using DIP switches to control timing for both sides making it easy to DIY

you should have spied on the technician to see how its done sweat.gif
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Dear all

my house is under reno, i intend to install arma cable first, my contractor charge me rm17 per feet.

it is included arma cable for 2 light points on both pillars + change ori normal door bell cable to arma cable.

he say use 12 cores cables inside and use part of 5 for gate's both motors, 2 pillar lights & 1 door bell cable, the rest 7 can for future usage.

total lenrth abt 43 feet and he quote me rm800 inlcuded hacking and conceling, is it ok?

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QUOTE(papaya2 @ May 17 2011, 08:54 PM)
Dear all

my house is under reno, i intend to install arma cable first, my contractor charge me rm17 per feet.

it is included arma cable for 2 light points on both pillars + change ori normal door bell cable to arma cable.

he say use 12 cores cables inside and use part of 5 for gate's both motors, 2 pillar lights & 1 door bell cable, the rest 7 can for future usage.

total lenrth abt 43 feet and he quote me rm800 inlcuded hacking and conceling, is it ok?
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apa itu arma cable??? biggrin.gif
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i think you mentioned armoured cable..
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Just installed DC MOTO GFM-905 from Spectra Alarm and Autogate System. You may contact Mr. Lim at 019-6237781. Fast and efficient service.
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what the cost like?

Anyone try this CASA Asia S-320 H? Which using new type of Arm (square instead of like ARM), any good?

http://autogatemalaysia.blogspot.com/2009/...320-h-easy.html

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i think you mentioned armoured cable..
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yup, armoured cable, tongue.gif sry for make confusing... my price is ok? sad.gif
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yup, armoured cable,  tongue.gif sry for make confusing... my price is ok? sad.gif
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ic....can enlighten a bit what armoured cable advantages over the normal? is it just normal cable with more line???
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anyone have any good web site to see What design of gate could select either MS or WI?

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I am very happy with my autogat contractor.

I got conned by someone, who supplied me a 16 fet swing gate tht is painted to look like wrought iron even though I said want galvansed. Thank God, not even 1 mth, the thing start to rust so I sent it back.

Then I got this guy to quote me. Then I ask to see what he has done, and after seeing his work sample, I had confidenc to engage him. With hot dip galvanise and powder coating, with the autogte motor, all in csot me RM4,800 for the 16 ft folding gate + RM1900 for the motor.

TOTAL COST = RM6,758.

Now my gate is the nicest on my street!! rclxms.gif

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16 feet... wow.. Metal price is high, better guard your gate smile.gif
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16 feet... wow.. Metal price is high, better guard your gate smile.gif
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16 feet, very easy to park 2 cars!!
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Guys,

Would like to ask, if I have a budget RM 2K for auto gate system (the gate + the arm motor)

What can I get? I have already laid and installed the armour cable. Now sakit kepala choosing what kind of gate and motor to use with the limited budget =.='''

Max I can go I think is RM 3K... but I want to know what brand and choice is being preferred normally... It's going to be 14 feet gate....

Please help ......
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Maybe you want to watch this before decide.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1909083

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Someone have give me a used JackPro Auto gate included the arm. According to him it been used for a year but due to owner have change to bigger gate which existing not longer able to use (What so ever reason behind)

ANyone have any recommended auto gate sifu recommending (around Puchong) that could help to verify the equipment and install it if no issue find on the unit?
ANy any suggestion?


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just share with everyone my autogate installed by a friend of mine. I'm using FAAC autogate and so far didn't give me any problem.

FAAC DoMoSwing

Lets me know if you need to get this autogate system.

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just share with everyone my autogate installed by a friend of mine. I'm using FAAC autogate and so far didn't give me any problem.

FAAC DoMoSwing

Lets me know if you need to get this autogate system.
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what the price like???

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anyone have any good web site to see What design of gate could select either MS or WI?
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I just googled it to get the pictures. But I think, the best way is to drive around the taman taman, and see which designs u like, snap a picture and ask the contractor to do it.

Mild steel gate is the cheapest, but can rust and hve to repaint to keep it good.

Wrought iron gates, must have hot dipped galvanised which is a process to coat the mild steel with a rust-proof material. After hotdip galvanise the metal must be powder coated to give a nice texture and color.

Stainless steel is the most expensive. But the steel can be very glaring under the hot sun. Stainless steel is generally maintenance free, but I think the looks are so so only. So far, I have not seen a nice s/s gate.
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QUOTE(lizziewong @ Jun 10 2011, 08:23 AM)
I just googled it to get the pictures.  But I think, the best way is to drive around the taman taman, and see which designs u like, snap a picture and ask the contractor to do it.

Mild steel gate is the cheapest, but can rust and hve to repaint to keep it good.

Wrought iron gates, must have hot dipped galvanised which is a process to coat the mild steel with a rust-proof material.  After hotdip galvanise the metal must be powder coated to give a nice texture and color.

Stainless steel is the most expensive.  But the steel can be very glaring under the hot sun.  Stainless steel is generally maintenance free, but I think the looks are so so only.  So far, I have not seen a nice s/s gate.
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I'll get Mild Steel with powder coat, and this will last longer. It do rust but take bit longer. I'll prefer to use mild steel as is cheaper.
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I'll get Mild Steel with powder coat, and this will last longer. It do rust but take bit longer. I'll prefer to use mild steel as is cheaper.
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instead of powder coating, why not consider galvanised if rust is your concern?
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Can you galvanised the Mild Steel? Or is there a ready product "galvanised steel" that they use? what is the price?

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have anyone heard about Weigand-620w? it costs RM1300, so wanna know whether it is worth to go or not?

or better stick with DC MOTO GFM905 RM1200?


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have anyone heard about Weigand-620w? it costs RM1300, so wanna know whether it is worth to go or not?

or better stick with DC MOTO GFM905 RM1200?
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can give me the contact for dc moto905 rm1200? include installation?
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YES, INCLUDE INSTALLATION BUT EXCLUDING CABLING.
BUT THE CONTRACTOR IS LOCATED AT MELAKA
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This is the picture of my gate. My children said I am so shameless when I said this is the nicest gate blush.gif on our street. They said I have omitted to disclose that, most houses on my street are very old.... haha...

Anyway, just want to share the pictur. Note that the track and the roller are stainless steel, and the gates are fixed to the pillar by way of a 4 ft high panel (fixed to the pillar by a few wal plugs). The bottom part of the gate is not wood (cant remember if its aluminium or powder coated steel) because it would be lighter and maintenance free (vs the wood type). The flowers and the leaves are a little bit more special than those seen normally, look a bit 3D.

This guy service so far I think ok lah... I also got him to do my pergola, parameter fencing grille, grill for front door, and folding grille for my balcony door too. The flowers and leaves are not too bad, and the design look better than those I see in the pattern book (that grille guys carry).

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QUOTE(lizziewong @ Jun 16 2011, 12:45 PM)
This is the picture of my gate. My children said I am so shameless when I said this is the nicest gate  blush.gif on our street.  They said I have omitted to disclose that, most houses on my street are very old.... haha...

Anyway, just want to share the pictur.  Note that the track and the roller are stainless steel, and the gates are fixed to the pillar by way of a 4 ft high panel (fixed to the pillar by a few wal plugs).  The bottom part of the gate is not wood (cant remember if its aluminium or powder coated steel) because it would be lighter and maintenance free (vs the wood type).    The flowers and the leaves are a little bit more special than those seen normally, look a bit 3D.

This guy service so far I think ok lah...  I also got him to do my pergola, parameter fencing grille, grill for front door, and folding grille for my balcony door too.  The flowers and leaves are not too bad, and the design look better than those I see in the pattern book (that grille guys carry).

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how much does it cost u for the gate and how much for the auto gate machine ??
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how much does it cost u for the gate and how much for the auto gate machine ??
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The gate (16' x 5') is RM4,768 and motor is RM1,880. The wrought iron comes with hot dipped galvanised and powdercoated.
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what the cost of "roller are stainless steel"?

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Jun 16 2011, 07:54 PM)
what the cost of "roller are stainless steel"?
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Part of the cost of the gate... tell the contractor when u order. I saw some people, the bracket also s/s but all this will add up the cost.
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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Jun 16 2011, 07:54 PM)
what the cost of "roller are stainless steel"?
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My price includes stainless steel bolt, nut and railing (track).


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Can you galvanised the Mild Steel? Or is there a ready product "galvanised  steel" that they use? what is the price?
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Galvanising is the process of coating a thin layer of zinc onto the mild steel members. Hot-dipped galvanising is the done by dipping the completed mild steel members (in this case, the gate) into a molten bath of zinc at very high temperature.

As for the price, it will be slightly more than those non-galvanised. This is due to the galvanising cost and also the increase in the thickness of the members to be galvanised. There is a minimum thickness of the mild steel member for galvanising. If the member are too thin, it could warp during the hot-dip galvanising process.

If you are concern with rust, then hot-dip galvanising is the way to go. My gate is galvanised. biggrin.gif
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Galvanising is the process of coating a thin layer of zinc onto the mild steel members. Hot-dipped galvanising is the done by dipping the completed mild steel members (in this case, the gate) into a molten bath of zinc at very high temperature.

As for the price, it will be slightly more than those non-galvanised. This is due to the galvanising cost and also the increase in the thickness of the members to be galvanised. There is a minimum thickness of the mild steel member for galvanising. If the member are too thin, it could warp during the hot-dip galvanising process.

If you are concern with rust, then hot-dip galvanising is the way to go. My gate is galvanised. biggrin.gif
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kelvyn, what is the Chinese term for Galvanise? When i ask for quote worry they don't know this English term.
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kelvyn, what is the Chinese term for Galvanise?  When i ask for quote worry they don't know this English term.
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according to google translator smile.gif

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You can ask your gate fabricator..

BTW, if you are galvanising the gate, you need to apply the following surface protection system. Else, there will not be proper adhesion between the paint and the galvanised surface. After sometime the paint will start peeling off. sad.gif

1. Hot dip galvanising
2. Etching primer - can get from most hardware shops
3. Finish coat - can be Micaceous Iron Oxide or the normal Nippon/ Jotun paint


Many of the workshop (I meant those the make the gate & grille) does not know this. This what what I come across when I was try to do up my front gate. They just apply the normal red oxide and the finishing coat. Few months/ years later, the paint starts coming off. sad.gif
However, the galvanising remains if properly done.
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QUOTE(periwater @ Jun 22 2011, 01:47 PM)
My price includes stainless steel bolt, nut and railing (track).
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is part of the autogate system or grill contractor? or becoz u buy both so give good stuff??

wonder if this is not given , then its just normal steel rail that would rust?
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QUOTE(bteoh @ Jun 27 2011, 02:43 AM)
is part of the autogate system or grill contractor? or becoz u buy both so give good stuff??

wonder if this is not given , then its just normal steel rail that would rust?
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these items cost just a very small fraction of the overall gate cost. Mostly included.
Just a word of caution in using the stainless steel rail (where the gate's roller slides on). They can get rusty if you use strong acid to wash your car porch floor. Happened to mine when my maid used acid to wash the car porch floor after the renovation work sad.gif
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YES, INCLUDE INSTALLATION BUT EXCLUDING CABLING.
BUT THE CONTRACTOR IS LOCATED AT MELAKA
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hi Intel@Atom,

i actually sourcing the contractor of auto gate based in melaka.

but i wondering people talking about other brand of autogate in here, and in melaka mostly i saw the advertising is showing only dcmoto auto gate?


example like FAAC, CASA and others....


I need the auto gate information but is based in melaka smile.gif

thanks


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QUOTE(TubeNRibbon @ Jun 9 2011, 11:53 PM)
just share with everyone my autogate installed by a friend of mine. I'm using FAAC autogate and so far didn't give me any problem.

FAAC DoMoSwing

Lets me know if you need to get this autogate system.
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Hi TubeNRibbon,


how many years of warranty of the FAAC covered to u?

and one more question, did u modify ur gate, or use the original gate which come from house?

I wish not to change my gate (due to cost saving), and should able to know the gate provided from developer are not really that good quality.

is it to install better quality of auto gate motor, need to have good gate at least with mid steel gate? not the kosong steel gate from developer?

sorry if the question look silly smile.gif

Thanks

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Hi. What do you guys think of "Legate" - http://www.bte.com.my/
Their price is quite pricey but very good at selling their technical points.
What impressed me especially was that they use
stainless steel rollers and the rail is 100 % solid stainless steel (not hollow).


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This is the picture of my gate. My children said I am so shameless when I said this is the nicest gate  blush.gif on our street.  They said I have omitted to disclose that, most houses on my street are very old.... haha...

Anyway, just want to share the pictur.  Note that the track and the roller are stainless steel, and the gates are fixed to the pillar by way of a 4 ft high panel (fixed to the pillar by a few wal plugs).  The bottom part of the gate is not wood (cant remember if its aluminium or powder coated steel) because it would be lighter and maintenance free (vs the wood type).    The flowers and the leaves are a little bit more special than those seen normally, look a bit 3D.

This guy service so far I think ok lah...  I also got him to do my pergola, parameter fencing grille, grill for front door, and folding grille for my balcony door too.   The flowers and leaves are not too bad, and the design look better than those I see in the pattern book (that grille guys carry).

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Nice gate. Can you please PM me the contractor contact. Thanks

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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Jul 4 2011, 02:14 PM)
Hi. What do you guys think of "Legate" - http://www.bte.com.my/
Their price is quite pricey but very good at selling their technical points.
What impressed me especially was that they use
stainless steel rollers and the rail is 100 % solid stainless steel (not hollow).


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Nice gate. Can you please PM me the contractor contact. Thanks
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Last time legate is good but nw i think their quality drop already. I think their production manager changed already. U have to pay the maintaince service fee every year to maintain the warranty. Using stainless steel solid pipe to make rail is a stupit action. Most important is the foundation of the rail. Actually their technical point r outdated already. Nw there are alot autogate with better features. Im personally doing r&d on smart autogate sytem. However not going to launch so fast.


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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jun 27 2011, 10:36 AM)
these items cost just a very small fraction of the overall gate cost. Mostly included.
Just a word of caution in using the stainless steel rail (where the gate's roller slides on). They can get rusty if you use strong acid to wash your car porch floor. Happened to mine when my maid used acid to wash the car porch floor after the renovation work  sad.gif
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This is base on what type of stainless steel they r using. Normally 304 wont rust. For rail for the gate. I can recommend to use schedule 40s 3/4inch pipe( actually is 1 inch). It is ss304 and sirim approved. Normally it is used to transfer acid or chemical liquid.

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jun 23 2011, 01:12 PM)
according to google translator  smile.gif 

镀锌

You can ask your gate fabricator..

BTW, if you are galvanising the gate, you need to apply the following surface protection system. Else, there will not be proper adhesion between the paint and the galvanised surface. After sometime the paint will start peeling off.  sad.gif

1. Hot dip galvanising
2. Etching primer - can get from most hardware shops
3. Finish coat - can be Micaceous Iron Oxide or the normal Nippon/ Jotun paint
Many of the workshop (I meant those the make the gate & grille) does not know this. This what what I come across when I was try to do up my front gate. They just apply the normal red oxide and the finishing coat. Few months/ years later, the paint starts coming off.  sad.gif
However, the galvanising remains if properly done.
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kelvyn, i think #2, and #3 they don't do it. Maybe i got to do it myself. The Erching primer is it clear or grey? If grey that mean I got to paint it again.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 5 2011, 11:35 AM)
kelvyn, i think #2, and #3 they don't do it. Maybe i got to do it myself. The Erching primer is it clear or grey? If grey that mean I got to paint it again.
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Depend on your gate fabricator. I bought the etching primer and MIO; and pass them to my fabricator to use. He applied them using his spray equipment. The finishing is much better than painting with a brush.

The etching primer is important for galvanised surface. If you apply the normal red oxide, it will not bond properly with the galvanised surface. The primer is the first coat after the galvanised surface. Thus, it is the most important coat. If the bond is not good, after some time, the paint will start peeling off. So, whatever paint that is painted on top of the primer will be of no use.

If I recall correctly, the etching primer that I used was Olive Green in colour.

As for the MIO, they comes in either grey, black and another lighter colour which I cannot recall. I used MIO for its durability as well as for its texture (like the surface of fine grade sand paper)
Alternatively, you could use the normal Acrylic finishing paint.

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Depend on your gate fabricator. I bought the etching primer and MIO; and pass them to my fabricator to use. He applied them using his spray equipment. The finishing is much better than painting with a brush.

The etching primer is important for galvanised surface. If you apply the normal red oxide, it will not bond properly with the galvanised surface. The primer is the first coat after the galvanised surface. Thus, it is the most important coat. If the bond is not good, after some time, the paint will start peeling off. So, whatever paint that is painted on top of the primer will be of no use.

If I recall correctly, the etching primer that I used was Olive Green in colour.

As for the MIO, they comes in either grey, black and another lighter colour which I cannot recall.  I used MIO for its durability as well as for its texture (like the surface of fine grade sand paper)
Alternatively, you could use the normal Acrylic finishing paint.
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Ok, Than i need to talk to the grill person.
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Ok, Than i need to talk to the grill person.
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Ya.. just buy the paint and pass to him to use. He could be reluctant as he is worried about the cost. Since he may not have used them before, he will most probably be skeptical. I believe after your "project" he will claim to be expert with galvanised gates biggrin.gif

p/s. I did not deduct the paint cost from my fabricator's payment although he mentioned for me to do so.. The cost is small as compared to the headache of repainting the gate every now & than..
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Can a normal steel gate use this primer?
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bro, any suggest good moto for auto gate (swing type)? budget around 1.8k + installation, but exclude wiring as i have installed armour cable by my wiring man. thanks
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Do you mean etching primer?
Yes, can be use. All surface must be clean and dry before applying. Clean away any rust.
Just like what ever paint you use, surface preparation is most important. Else whatever that you apply on would be useless.

you can refer here:

http://www.nipponpaint.com.my/professional...=14&rangeID=114
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bro, any suggest good moto for auto gate (swing type)? budget around 1.8k + installation, but exclude wiring as i have installed armour cable by my wiring man. thanks
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For swing gate, i recommand to use arm type motor. Dont use dc motor gfm905 similar motor as it is not suitable for swing gate. I can recommand u maxstone sw720. Taiwan imported motor. I have compared to oae a333. The gearbox , motor and structure r alot better than local arm. The price also quite cheap. May i know ur location?
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if the gfm905 not suitable for swing type, wht type actually suitable? folding or sliding?
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Suitable for folding but also not for big folding gate. Normally recommanded below 16ft. I have tried on 26ft folding. Result is crack crack sound while going to stop. I still have the sample video but not with me nw. It look great but sound not great. Confirm gear broken if installed
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QUOTE(loong1111 @ Jul 5 2011, 06:05 PM)
For swing gate, i recommand to use arm type motor. Dont use dc motor gfm905 similar motor as it is not suitable for swing gate. I can recommand u maxstone sw720. Taiwan imported motor. I have compared to oae a333. The gearbox , motor and structure r alot better than local arm. The price also quite cheap. May i know ur location?
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Bro,
care to elaborate on why you say DC motor not suitable for swing gate?
If not suitable for swing gate, then what are they suitable for?
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Dc moto use gear to lock the gate been open. If u use abit strenght to pull the gate, it will crack the gear. For arm type, it use screw type concerpt to lcok the gate. Can u imaging how r u going to pull out bolt and nut. If u use strenght to pull the gate, normally motor wont spoil but the wall plug will been pull out or the welding point broken.


Added on July 5, 2011, 6:06 pmAnyway, dc moto arm suitable for swing gate.

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QUOTE(loong1111 @ Jul 5 2011, 06:05 PM)
Dc moto use gear to lock the gate been open. If u use abit strenght to pull the gate, it will crack the gear. For arm type, it use screw type concerpt to lcok the gate. Can u imaging how r u going to pull out bolt and nut. If u use strenght to pull the gate, normally motor wont spoil but the wall plug will been pull out or the welding point broken.


Added on July 5, 2011, 6:06 pmAnyway, dc moto arm suitable for swing gate.
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bro, quite make sence, i will re-consider yr points. I'm still approaching few seller for best quotation, will buy it before this month.
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hi guys, anyone of you ever replaced an old autogate system before i.e. change to new gate without any autogate system? I bought a house and the old autogate is in bad shape and one side cacat. Not sure if I should fix the old gate or just change it...
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hi guys, anyone of you ever replaced an old autogate system before i.e. change to new gate without any autogate system? I bought a house and the old autogate is in bad shape and one side cacat. Not sure if I should fix the old gate or just change it...
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Depend on the condition. Repairing autogate might cost alot. Depend which part to change. Normally wil cost few hundred. If you have budget, just get a new set. It is worth than repair the old 1. Repaired product alsp cannot gurantee how long can it last again rite?
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QUOTE(donnwyt @ Jul 6 2011, 12:56 AM)
hi guys, anyone of you ever replaced an old autogate system before i.e. change to new gate without any autogate system? I bought a house and the old autogate is in bad shape and one side cacat. Not sure if I should fix the old gate or just change it...
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Not worth to repair. Spares may not be able to get if they are very old.
Sometimes have to use salvage parts for other old system. The the question of durability.

Long run, you may be better off getting a new set which comes with warranty.


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Sample video of sw720 i installed before.





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[quote=loong1111,Jul 5 2011, 08:09 AM]
Last time legate is good but nw i think their quality drop already. I think their production manager changed already. U have to pay the maintaince service fee every year to maintain the warranty. Using stainless steel solid pipe to make rail is a stupit action. Most important is the foundation of the rail. Actually their technical point r outdated already. Nw there are alot autogate with better features. Im personally doing r&d on smart autogate sytem. However not going to launch so fast.

Hi loong1111, when are you going to launch your gate design? I am looking at options now. Please share.. hmm.gif
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i booked mine in exhibition, seems like the price is on the high side. Regret not doing any research before purchasing.

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Some additional information on autogate here
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anyone using mag wing 303 auto gate system? is it reliable and post sales service good? how much is the price for the system & installation?
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jun 23 2011, 01:12 PM)
according to google translator  smile.gif 

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You can ask your gate fabricator..

BTW, if you are galvanising the gate, you need to apply the following surface protection system. Else, there will not be proper adhesion between the paint and the galvanised surface. After sometime the paint will start peeling off.  sad.gif

1. Hot dip galvanising
2. Etching primer - can get from most hardware shops
3. Finish coat - can be Micaceous Iron Oxide or the normal Nippon/ Jotun paint
Many of the workshop (I meant those the make the gate & grille) does not know this. This what what I come across when I was try to do up my front gate. They just apply the normal red oxide and the finishing coat. Few months/ years later, the paint starts coming off.  sad.gif
However, the galvanising remains if properly done.
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Hi kelvyn, this is very good info. I will use this when I next source for an autogate. Thanks notworthy.gif

After this 3 process, for an autogate, what do they do for a finishing coat, paint over or powder coated? Which one better? Is it required?

Is the same principle applied to window grills? Is it required? icon_question.gif

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Hi kelvyn, this is very good info. I will use this when I next source for an autogate. Thanks  notworthy.gif

After this 3 process, for an autogate, what do they do for a finishing coat, paint over or powder coated? Which one better? Is it required?

Is the same principle applied to window grills? Is it required?  icon_question.gif
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Hi phoenix69,

For gate that are exposed to our weather. The MS gate is hot dip galvanised and followed by Etching primer.
The finishing coat can be Micaceous Iron Oxide (which is what I used for mine) or you could paint with the normal gloss finish paints.

Powder coating is a different process and the contractors will not charge cheap. I have not used power coating, so cannot comment.

For the window grilles which are not exposed to the rain, No need to galvanise unless you have the extra cash to throw around smile.gif

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Kelvin, which brand of etching primer you using? I source 3 h/w shop nearby asking for etching primer they just give me a blur face!...

Need to find few tong and give it to the grill maker for my gate and expose grill.
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Kelvin, which brand of etching primer you using? I source 3 h/w shop nearby asking for etching primer they just give me a blur face!...

Need to find few tong and give it to the grill maker for my gate and expose grill.
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this is what I used Nippon Etching Primer 120

http://www.nipponpaint.com.my/professional...=14&rangeID=114

Cost me RM90 for 5 lit tong
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this is what I used Nippon Etching Primer 120

http://www.nipponpaint.com.my/professional...=14&rangeID=114

Cost me RM90 for 5 lit tong
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does the swing arm type auto gate has a lock/pin (which is contained in a iron box) in the centre to lock the auto gate?

if no, isnt it possible to pull the gate open forcefully from outside since there's no lock mechanism/barrier in the centre?

sorry for the basic question. still new to swing arm type system.

PS: am using the ground embedded system with a central lock.
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Aug 10 2011, 03:53 PM)
does the swing arm type auto gate has a lock/pin (which is contained in a iron box) in the centre to lock the auto gate?

if no, isnt it possible to pull the gate open forcefully from outside since there's no lock mechanism/barrier in the centre?

sorry for the basic question. still new to swing arm type system.

PS: am using the ground embedded system with a central lock.
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The center lock is called solenoid.

For conceal autogate is much easier to pull the gate hence they install the solenoid. I spoke to an autogate installer and he told me the arm are using screw type gear to open / close the gate hence it need more force to open up the gate.

The solenoid for the conceal autogate do have its disadvantage, Very easy to open too, just take metal bar lift the gate a bit, the solenoid will be unlock.

Want better safety, install EM lock on the gate. Sure can't open
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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 10 2011, 04:08 PM)
The center lock is called solenoid.

For conceal autogate is much easier to pull the gate hence they install the solenoid. I spoke to an autogate installer and he told me the arm are using screw type gear to open / close the gate hence it need more force to open up the gate.

The solenoid for the conceal autogate do have its disadvantage, Very easy to open too, just take metal bar lift the gate a bit, the solenoid will be unlock.

Want better safety, install EM lock on the gate. Sure can't open
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ok thanks for the info. very helpful.

what about the system like DCMOTO? i thought they're using gears as well to open/close the gate. is there a lock mechanism for such system?

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ok thanks for the info. very helpful.

what about the system like DCMOTO? i thought they're using gears as well to open/close the gate. is there a lock mechanism for such system?
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You referring to the link below? From the brochure it have a solenoid build in, maybe act as the same function. You can call them up and check.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_frjVTLO_knY/SAS-...h/auto+gate.jpg
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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 10 2011, 04:08 PM)
The center lock is called solenoid.

For conceal autogate is much easier to pull the gate hence they install the solenoid. I spoke to an autogate installer and he told me the arm are using screw type gear to open / close the gate hence it need more force to open up the gate.

The solenoid for the conceal autogate do have its disadvantage, Very easy to open too, just take metal bar lift the gate a bit, the solenoid will be unlock.

Want better safety, install EM lock on the gate. Sure can't open
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Hi. I will upload some of the sw720 motor interior motor and gearbox design soon. The design is alot better than local arm. R&D still in proccess. Currently im not yet sell any this motor to forumer.
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ok thanks for the info. very helpful.

what about the system like DCMOTO? i thought they're using gears as well to open/close the gate. is there a lock mechanism for such system?
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DCmoto...905 i think...have been quoted 1.6k from few people...i think the price quite standard
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do you know what's the difference between 903 & 905? cant seem to find much info about 903.
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do you know what's the difference between 903 & 905? cant seem to find much info about 903.
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903 and 905, look the same only difference is controller. Source:-

http://www.lelong.com.my/dc-moto-swing-gat...1-11-Sale-P.htm



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do you know what's the difference between 903 & 905? cant seem to find much info about 903.
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seems like the difference between DCMOTO 903 and 905 is only on the controller board and remote control. how much is the price difference between 903 and 905?
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seems like the difference between DCMOTO 903 and 905 is only on the controller board and remote control. how much is the price difference between 903 and 905?
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gfm-905 premium, I got my quotation for a full set (including photobeam, multifunction keypad, antispy transmitter, etc) + installation for RM2500. and this quotation was obtained 2 years ago (I still keep the quotation till now).

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Higher end controller, cost more to dupe.
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this mean the 903 is using the typical remote control that can be duplicated?
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Anyone knows where to buy the rubber piece in the middle of auto gate that stops/holds the gate on closing?
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Should be the same ask what you can get in hardware store. Ask them about stopper.
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tried to ask a few shops around my place but they dont seem to carry the stopper. might need to search other bigger stores.

wonder whether ace hardware carries such product?
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Having the rubber stopper at the middle of the gate is a safety hazard. People get tripped over. Nowadays, mostly new auto gate do not use that anymore.
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Need to make another big decision this week.
Its time to finalize on the autogate.
My contractor is chasing me as he need to build the front gate wall.

Going for folding type autogate.

There is 2 type or arm (I am going for the folding gate with tracks type).
1. The one with thick arm
2. The one with thin flat bars that goes underneath the gate.

Which one to choose?
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Need to make another big decision this week.
Its time to finalize on the autogate.
My contractor is chasing me as he need to build the front gate wall.

Going for folding type autogate.

There is 2 type or arm (I am going for the folding gate with tracks type).
1. The one with thick arm
2. The one with thin flat bars that goes underneath the gate.

Which one to choose?
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Having a folding type gate is a good choice as it avoids the gate from hitting the car parked outside your gate when opening the gate. Just make sure the rail are firmly installed to avoid having problem of the undulating rail later on. Try to use a stainless steel rail. e.g stainless water pipe
As for choosing whether to go for the arm type or the surface mounted rotary type; both have its pros & cons.
Try to avoid those floor mounted underground motor. They are the cheapest; but may not be lasting. The underground motor gets flooded due to seepage of water.
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Sep 5 2011, 10:09 AM)
Having a folding type gate is a good choice as it avoids the gate from hitting the car parked outside your gate when opening the gate. Just make sure the rail are firmly installed to avoid having problem of the undulating rail later on. Try to use a stainless steel rail. e.g stainless water pipe
As for choosing whether to go for the arm type or the surface mounted rotary type; both have its pros & cons.
Try to avoid those floor mounted underground motor. They are the cheapest; but may not be lasting. The underground motor gets flooded due to seepage of water.
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Thanks for the info.
I understand that arm type allow the gate to fold in less (because of the arm type location) compared to the type with the thinner bars that drive the gate by pushing and pulling the underside of the gate (old type usually motor underground. now days motor above ground). Is this true?

surface mounted rotary type (what is this?)

Which ones are more durable?

Sorry for the questions, just need info for decision making notworthy.gif
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The conventional method, need more expensive labor, and the center of the gate will need solenoid because the conventional method use normal gear, where the arm type uses screw thread mechanism, which require higher force to force open the gate.

Well, both still have problem to prevent people force in.
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Thanks for the info.
I understand that arm type allow the gate to fold in less (because of the arm type location) compared to the type with the thinner bars that drive the gate by pushing and pulling the underside of the gate (old type usually motor underground. now days motor above ground). Is this true?

From what I found out when I was looking for my house auto gate, it seems that arm type will reduce the effective opening of the gate.


surface mounted rotary type (what is this?)

They are the older type of auto gate. The whole motor is mounted underground. Used it for my previous house. Was giving me endless problems after using for a few years. But, cheap  tongue.gif

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Which ones are more durable?

Sorry for the questions, just need info for decision making  notworthy.gif
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Thanks Guys. I understand fully now. nod.gif
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hi,

Can anyone please read the attached catalogue and give some comments about the technical specs....

It is good enough for folding gate? anyone use this brand before?

thanks

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Most you see "Italy", "German", "US" Technology is all Local made, maybe copied.

Most important is it easy to find spare parts?
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hi,

Can anyone please read the attached catalogue and give some comments about the technical specs....

It is good enough for folding gate? anyone use this brand before?

thanks

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What I undenstanding the most important is the After Sale service lol, because some one them are part time, after few years no longer doing anymore (if lucky)

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What I undenstanding the most important is the After Sale service lol, because some one them are part time, after few years no longer doing anymore (if lucky)
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Very true. It is important to get an installer that are long term into this business. Not forgetting the spare parts. You will have lesser headache when you need to maintain your auto gate in years to come.
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blink.gif Installing autogate arm triggered a question in me. Will it compromise a galvanised / powdercoated gate rust protection??
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blink.gif Installing autogate arm triggered a question in me. Will it compromise a galvanised / powdercoated gate rust protection??
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When the installer installs the auto gate, they just drill a few small holes onto the gate's frame for fastening. Nothing major smile.gif
If galvanised, the inside of the steel sections are also galvanised. No wories
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hi,

Can anyone please read the attached catalogue and give some comments about the technical specs....

It is good enough for folding gate? anyone use this brand before?

thanks

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What is the price you are getting for this model, mine contractor quoted me RM1,400 for model 916, any idea what is the different between 712 and 916 ?
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guys,

how do I know if my gate supports autogate? ..
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guys,

how do I know if my gate supports autogate? ..
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All gate can be install with auto gate, is just whether nice or dont nice...
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Signed up for an autogate package during the perfect living fair in Penang early September. 6k for a 12ft wide and 5ft tall gate, folding type with dc motor on each side above ground level. Wrought iron frame with aluminum panel. Galvanized and powder coating. With sensor and alarm, 48hr backup battery and. 3 remote plus control panel. 10 years warranty, virtually no need maintenance. Include installation provided Power point already exist. Didn't do research before hand so dunno whether it's a good deal?
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hi everyone,

just install my autogate system, for my wrought iron 16' gate, folding type
OAE swing arm system, local made in Ipoh.
OAE system is very reliable. My bro inlaw n neighbour has been using this brand for more than 5yrs. Problem free.
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Any reliable auto gate supplier around subang or puchong area? icon_question.gif
When I say reliable, means good after sales service. icon_rolleyes.gif
If I call they do not think "collect money already no need to attend ler". doh.gif
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Any reliable auto gate supplier around subang or puchong area?  icon_question.gif
When I say reliable, means good after sales service.  icon_rolleyes.gif
If I call they do not think "collect money already no need to attend ler".  doh.gif
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Call this guy Gan at 019-3270405 of PLK Automation, i've used him twice, for both houses rclxms.gif
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hi,

Can anyone please read the attached catalogue and give some comments about the technical specs....

It is good enough for folding gate? anyone use this brand before?

thanks

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Recently i get a quote for 712, RM1300. Is it good? My fren got RM900 for his auto gate motor, but i not sure the brand la...Hope all the sifus here can give recommendation. Thanks.
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Anyone still lurking around this thread?

I am currently renovating my house. The new gate will be 14ft wide, 5.5ft high 4 panel folding making each panel around 3.5ft. Now, the headache part is choosing the correct gate motor.

The gate maker suggested me to get the D'Nor as most of his customers are using this brand and so far the reliability rate is high. I had read abit and there seems like there are a lot of people suggesting Dc Moto or Legate. Anybody experience to point out for the pros and cons of these few brands? Thanks
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If you are using folding gate, you should take into consideration the type of mechanism used.
If you use the arm type, it could reduce the effective opening of the gate. This is due to the need to allow space for the fitting between the gate panels, thus smaller gate opening.
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Many brand are just rebadge from copy of few famous model, is all made in Malaysia. That why some brand we never heard of. Most important can get spare parts.
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@kelvyn,

I had already asked and the guy mentioned, most likely it will take up around 1.5ft per side at most including the arm so roughly, I still have 11 ft of opening which I think is adequate. I think probably going for the arm is still the best, or you any have other suggestions?

@weikee

Yeah, pretty much figured that also.

Been following your home thread for quite some time as a silent reader, so have you done up with your gate yet?



Actually after some reading, I am quite incline for Dc Moto GFM 905 but just don't know about the spare part availability for this brand. A youtube video I found about this model online.



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Gate done, auto gate next week.
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@kelvyn,

I had already asked and the guy mentioned, most likely it will take up around 1.5ft per side including the arm so roughly, I still have 11 ft of opening which I think is adequate. I think probably going for the arm is still the best, or you any have other suggestions?

@weikee

Yeah, pretty much figured that also.

Been following your home thread for quite some time as a silent reader, so have you done up with your gate yet?
Actually after some reading, I am quite incline for Dc Moto GFM 905 but just don't know about the spare part availability for this brand. A youtube video I found about this model online.


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IMHO, taking up 1.5' each side is quite a lot. Unless you are planning of getting only one car into the porch.

DC Moto should be OK. Using them on my current gate.
BTW, if you use DC Moto, it is should take up lesser on each side.

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Nov 5 2011, 10:02 PM)
IMHO, taking up 1.5' each side is quite a lot. Unless you are planning of getting only one car into the porch.

DC Moto should be OK. Using them on my current gate.
BTW, if you use DC Moto, it is should take up lesser on each side.
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He said at most so I can expect lesser, probably if can be done around 1ft region then I am happy enough. I will talk to my gate contractor and see on this issue. How much did you pay for the gate motor?
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Gate done, auto gate next week.
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what brand are you going? and what the cost like?

I yet to decide should I re-use the unit my friend given "http://www.jackpro.com.my/aboutus.asp" or get other...

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what brand are you going? and what the cost like?

I yet to decide should I re-use the unit my friend given "http://www.jackpro.com.my/aboutus.asp" or get other...
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Arm type, local brand la. is 1.4k
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Arm type, local brand la. is 1.4k
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Big arm type?

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Big arm type?
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Not sure, did not ask detail. He was recommend by my wife colleague, the use his service many time and some of her other colleague also use his service.
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see the youtube clip....is the motor noise or the gate frinction noise that is noisy????
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Hey guys, I've got a question here.
I am looking for auto gate at this stage.
My gate still have not arrived yet.
Initially wanted DC Moto 905, but according to spec
DC Moto can only handle around 1.9meter (150kg) per wing.(according to spec)

My Gate is a Folding gate.
Something like this http://www.doordesignss.com/tag/auto-gate-design/
6 feet height, 16 feet wide. (8 feet per wing). No wood, only aluminium panels.
My gate supplier told me its 400++kg per wing. blink.gif
I was shocked , possible ar????? shocking.gif
I asked 3 times and the answer still the same rclxub.gif
That makes it 800++kg total.
That is crazy. rclxub.gif

Any alternative autogate recommendations?

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I have a strongest feeling that the weight given to you by your contractor is not correct. No way it is 400+ kg per side. On top of that, you said that they are aluminum panels.

I reckon, it should be the most 130kg each side even it is MS instead of aluminum. So, with aluminum panels, it should be lesser.


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The autogate installer will ask you your gate weight, than he can recommend. If too heavy, they usually recommend imported version.
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I have installed this Life Optimo swing gate:

http://www.homelife.it/automation-for-swin...tes-optimo.html

RM2500.
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400kg??? Crazy. He give you solid MS kah? and how much he charge you for the gate itself?


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but if blackout happens, does the automatic gate can still slide open??
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but if blackout happens, does the automatic gate can still slide open??
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Mine will come with battery. But need to replace every two to three years for backup battery.
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Nov 6 2011, 01:42 PM)
Hey guys, I've got a question here.
I am looking for auto gate at this stage.
My gate still have not arrived yet.
Initially wanted DC Moto 905, but according to spec
DC Moto can only handle around 1.9meter (150kg) per wing.(according to spec)

My Gate is a Folding gate.
Something like this http://www.doordesignss.com/tag/auto-gate-design/
6 feet height, 16 feet wide. (8 feet per wing). No wood, only aluminium panels.
My gate supplier told me its 400++kg per wing.  blink.gif
I was shocked , possible ar?????  shocking.gif
I asked 3 times and the answer still the same  rclxub.gif
That makes it 800++kg total.
That is crazy. rclxub.gif

Any alternative autogate recommendations?
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almost the weight of a lotus elise.
i have not heard of a residential gate of 800kg.

The only gate i know is datuk tan's house gate from jb (danga bay area).
Thats almost 2 storeys high.
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almost the weight of a lotus elise.
i have not heard of a residential gate of 800kg.

The only gate i know is datuk tan's house gate from jb (danga bay area).
Thats almost 2 storeys high.
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QUOTE(skng03 @ Nov 8 2011, 02:09 AM)
saw one W.I sliding gate 18'(L) x 8'(h) with 12mm Grade 50 steel plate  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  need 4 big size body guard to push when the sliding motor KO whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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In that case, the motor must be damn big to be able to slide the gate... sweat.gif
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gate width is 14ft
is the price ok?
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400kg??? Crazy. He give you solid MS kah? and how much he charge you for the gate itself?
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Ya lah. I think he is either wrong or my ear wrong, rclxub.gif
Price around RM4500.00
Like that can sell scrap metal maybe still make profit . doh.gif

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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Nov 8 2011, 10:23 AM)
Ya lah. I think he is either wrong or my ear wrong,  rclxub.gif
Price around RM4500.00
Like that can sell scrap metal maybe still make profit .  doh.gif
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Oh.....that explained lol. Maybe you shoudl check with other contractor too or change to stainless style with the price.

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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Nov 8 2011, 11:23 AM)
Ya lah. I think he is either wrong or my ear wrong,  rclxub.gif
Price around RM4500.00
Like that can sell scrap metal maybe still make profit .  doh.gif
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RM4,500 incl the auto gate system?
If just gate alone, damn expensive ......
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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Nov 8 2011, 11:31 AM)
Oh.....that explained lol. Maybe you shoudl check with other contractor too or change to stainless style with the price.
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my stainless steel 16ft gate for 5k
but i request for a 8mm thickness or more
in the end,even the wind is able to move the sliding gate
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Got my autogate installed. Simple and reasonable price. OAE

Is local brand. Think they copy some other design too.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 8 2011, 03:58 PM)
Got my autogate installed. Simple and reasonable price. OAE

Is local brand. Think they copy some other design too.
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can share the contacts and price of the system?

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Guys... i'll like to ask if anyone of you know the estimated price for gate for my costing.
I plan to have a about 21ft x 5ft gate with something similiar to the pic below posted b4...
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 8 2011, 03:58 PM)
Got my autogate installed. Simple and reasonable price. OAE

Is local brand. Think they copy some other design too.
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Friend, is this modal?
http://www.smartprotection.com.my/PDF/Autogate/OAE/OAE.pdf

RM1.4k? anything extra charge? how long the warrenty given?
May get contact if need thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Nov 8 2011, 05:27 PM)
Friend, is this modal?
http://www.smartprotection.com.my/PDF/Autogate/OAE/OAE.pdf

RM1.4k? anything extra charge? how long the warrenty given?
May get contact if need  thumbup.gif
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Think is the same, mine is the stainless steal version. Is all standard stuff loh, what to ask? 3 remote, 2 unlock key. I ask him program the key to be same code as my current parent house. So now i use one remote for 2 house smile.gif He also tell me is china made battery so expect to last only 1 year. Anyway, i will change the battery to bigger and better one soon.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 8 2011, 07:02 PM)
Think is the same, mine is the stainless steal version. Is all standard stuff loh, what to ask? 3 remote, 2 unlock key. I ask him program the key to be same code as my current parent house. So now i use one remote for 2 house smile.gif  He also tell me is china made battery so expect to last only 1 year. Anyway, i will change the battery to bigger and better one soon.
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haha...Unlock through the box or at the arm?
any alarm sound if someone force open or gate been block?


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haha...Unlock through the box or at the arm?
any alarm sound if someone force open or gate been block?
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Take out the arm. Alarm did not really try, try pulling it not easy to open. But if you really force it it should open few inch than it will lock or maybe the arm holder (cement wall) will come off..
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QUOTE(noien @ Nov 8 2011, 10:02 AM)
was quoted rm1800 for casa 320
gate width is 14ft
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I also am looking for one now.
Completed renovating the house 6 months ago and now decided to upgrade to autogate. Wiring done. Will reuse the old swing gate which is about 10 feet total length.
Any recommendation for a good dependable swing arm autogate plus a reliable after sales company? To me this is the most important thing when I look for a product.

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Quite true. For auto gate system and alarm, better to use a specialist contractor that can provide after sales service. Else you will be stuck.
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Nov 11 2011, 06:01 PM)
Quite true. For auto gate system and alarm, better to use a specialist contractor that can provide after sales service. Else you will be stuck.
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Any one got their autogate from a shop along the backroad from giant to USJ19 shopping mall. After service good or bad??
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My house autogate, the middle of the gate that suppose to lock when it is closed, now doesnt lock.. It happened 3 month ago and got it repaired for RM500, but now its happening again..

Anyone can recommend cheaper alternative?
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Nov 12 2011, 09:54 PM)
My house autogate, the middle of the gate that suppose to lock when it is closed, now doesnt lock.. It happened 3 month ago and got it repaired for RM500, but now its happening again..

Anyone can recommend cheaper alternative?
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Doesn't lock could be due to few reasons. Maybe some dirt stuck in the opening for the lock?
You could also use the WD40 and spray some to lubricate the mechanism.
For the RM500 repair for the center solenoid lock, it should have been a new one set.
Why don't you get the contractor to rectify them?
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if the inner part of stainless steel tube is exposed to sun and rain, will it rust?
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hey guys, your autogate include wiring done? if not, how much wiring (from gate pillar to pillar) will cost?
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Quoted few autogate contractors, they told me the similar things

1)There are 2 types of autogate motors, which are
-Swing (For folding or swinging gate)
-Slide (For sliding gate)

2)Swing motor is much expensive than slide, some more for swing one you need 2 units, 1 motor for each side of gate while sliding one you only need 1 unit of motor

3)Surprisingly, for the durability issue, swing one not durable as slide one. Slide one, the motor more tahan lasak than swing one.
-My personally thinking, this is quite true as swinging one involve 2 axis of torques against the motor while sliding one only a rotational force perpendicular towards the sliding gate rolleyes.gif

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My mother house, have 2 sliding door, and need 2 sliding motor, + installation close to 2.5k. So is really depend how many sliding door you have. Is not the cheapest. Per unit Sliding is more expensive.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 16 2011, 11:19 AM)
My mother house, have 2 sliding door, and need 2 sliding motor, + installation close to 2.5k. So is really depend how many sliding door you have. Is not the cheapest. Per unit Sliding is more expensive.
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Herm, but the quotation from several contractors showing me the price of motor per unit, swing is more expensive than slide (each unit higher beberapa puluh only) maybe different brands different prices? biggrin.gif
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As per my experience, sliding door is slow and noisy when it slide.
It is more important to understand how heavy is your gate and what size of motor require. I have issue with my sliding gate as the motor start to give out as the door is too heavy and i have to help IT when it open or close.
It is also more important to find a company which has been in the business for long as u will require their service after yrs and u do hope they are still around.
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QUOTE(luvimp @ Nov 17 2011, 12:09 PM)
As per my experience, sliding door is slow and noisy when it slide.
It is more important to understand how heavy is your gate and what size of motor require. I have issue with my sliding gate as the motor start to give out as the door is too heavy and i have to help IT when it open or close.
It is also more important to find a company which has been in the business for long as u will require their service after yrs and u do hope they are still around.
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Check the sliding door bearing. It maybe due for replacement. I have no problem with the sliding door, one is very silent another is noisy because the bearing is due for replacement.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 17 2011, 12:13 PM)
Check the sliding door bearing. It maybe due for replacement. I have no problem with the sliding door, one is very silent another is noisy because the bearing is due for replacement.
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Yes, asked someone to service it and they say that the motor is not strong enough for the door.
Need to change this n that.
Also, my door is quite long and when it was pulled by the motor, can hear the steel shaky sound.
The swing 1 is much better. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(luvimp @ Nov 17 2011, 12:27 PM)
Yes, asked someone to service it and they say that the motor is not strong enough for the door.
Need to change this n that.
Also, my door is quite long and when it was pulled by the motor, can hear the steel shaky sound.
The swing 1 is much better. hmm.gif
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Was it like this when the gate and sliding motor is new? Mine was the same, and slowly make noise. The technician disable the sliding motor and pull, it show us the bearing is worn and motor now work much harder. But still workable.
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maybe every 3 months have self maintainance with WD40 on it??? Will it help?
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 17 2011, 12:32 PM)
Was it like this when the gate and sliding motor is new? Mine was the same, and slowly make noise. The technician disable the sliding motor and pull, it show us the bearing is worn and motor now work much harder.  But still workable.
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No, at 1st everything seems just good but after close to 1yr then problem started to arise.
Especially when the guy said that my gate is just too heavy.
I was thinking why he never said so when he install it?
Now the gate is slow and most of the time it will stop by itself halfway then i have to press the remote again.
Worst part is when it rains and i have to go down to ASSIST the gate to open.
Also, i notice that my other neighbours who is using slide gate also quite noisy and slow.
My another house using swing has no such issue and require minimal service for the bearing only.
I prefer the gate to close faster cause i usually wait until it is fully closed before i go down.
You know la, nowadays many robber dash into the house when he gate is about to close. sad.gif
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Maybe because of the auto gate arm instead of the board?
What system is that?


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QUOTE(luvimp @ Nov 17 2011, 02:41 PM)
No, at 1st everything seems just good but after close to 1yr then problem started to arise.
Especially when the guy said that my gate is just too heavy.
I was thinking why he never said so when he install it?
Now the gate is slow and most of the time it will stop by itself halfway then i have to press the remote again.
Worst part is when it rains and i have to go down to ASSIST the gate to open.
Also, i notice that my other neighbours who is using slide gate also quite noisy and slow.
My another house using swing has no such issue and require minimal service for the bearing only.
I prefer the gate to close faster cause i usually wait until it is fully closed before i go down.
You know la, nowadays many robber dash into the house when he gate is about to close. sad.gif
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Sliding is always slow.

Can you try unlock the motor and manually push. If its easy push mean is the motor problem. If still hard, most likely the roller inside the gate is rust or failing.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 17 2011, 03:56 PM)
Sliding is always slow.

Can you try unlock the motor and manually push. If its easy push mean is the motor problem. If still hard, most likely the roller inside the gate is rust or failing.
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Thanks for the advise.
Must check and see on this coming weekend.
Nowadays always rain making me so frustrated.
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I m using DC Moto Swing Type for the foldable door.. so far.. so good..
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QUOTE(luvimp @ Nov 17 2011, 02:41 PM)
No, at 1st everything seems just good but after close to 1yr then problem started to arise.
Especially when the guy said that my gate is just too heavy.
I was thinking why he never said so when he install it?
Now the gate is slow and most of the time it will stop by itself halfway then i have to press the remote again.
Worst part is when it rains and i have to go down to ASSIST the gate to open.
Also, i notice that my other neighbours who is using slide gate also quite noisy and slow.
My another house using swing has no such issue and require minimal service for the bearing only.
I prefer the gate to close faster cause i usually wait until it is fully closed before i go down.
You know la, nowadays many robber dash into the house when he gate is about to close. sad.gif
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wow, sounds troublesome when you have to assist the autogate to open, i m still considering swing or slide.. hmm.gif
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Slide will sure be slow, Depend the length too. My current house, the door about 10 feet take 15 sec to fully close / open.

Swing, i find the Arm type (mine is OAE) i am using not very fast also, about 13 sec to fully close / open. Maybe due to the arm will slow down when starting, and ending.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 18 2011, 11:36 PM)
Slide will sure be slow, Depend the length too. My current house, the door about 10 feet take 15 sec to fully close / open.

Swing, i find the Arm type (mine is OAE) i am using not very fast also, about 13 sec to fully close / open. Maybe due to the arm will slow down when starting, and ending.
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for your swing one, how many watt and torque of motors u r using?
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Don't know. Did not bother to check. As long working for me is good. Is design or maybe is pre configure to be slow start and end. I'll open up the control box when I brought my 9AH batter.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 18 2011, 11:42 PM)
Don't know. Did not bother to check. As long working for me is good. Is design or maybe is pre configure to be slow start and end. I'll open up the control box when I brought my 9AH batter.
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icic, I am actually doing some study on the torque vs suitable gate biggrin.gif
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Hi, any of you know how to contact Herostar Automation (Radion)? Our gate has broken down and my mother has been trying to contact the number given on their site http://radion.com.my/contact.html but it's constantly engaged.
Are they still around?
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hi. any problems with autogate, alarm sys or cctv, pls call this guy. Jeff 012-2380900. no need to mention who recommend.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 8 2011, 03:58 PM)
Got my autogate installed. Simple and reasonable price. OAE

Is local brand. Think they copy some other design too.
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How is the quality? Noisy when sliding? thunder and water resistant? smile.gif
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if you think your autoagate is slow, you can open the controller box. There'll be a knob in there to adjust the timing to your preference..
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Nov 8 2011, 01:09 PM)
RM4,500 incl the auto gate system?
If just gate alone, damn expensive ......
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I asked my wetwork contractor to check with his 2 contact regarding similar design.
It seems that the price he got was wayyyy above this price.
What done is done, just gotta move forward.

Anyway I called the gate supplier again. powder coated already.
16 feet folding gate.
4 panel, each panel 200 kg. total 800kg doh.gif
So damm heavy. blink.gif

Any one here can recommend a suitable autogate arm that can handle this spec. notworthy.gif
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Yup. Just have to move on... You win some, you lose some biggrin.gif Looks like your gate is very heavy ...
Really have to get heavy duty auto gate system. Just be prepare for the price..

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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Nov 30 2011, 07:33 PM)
I asked my wetwork contractor to check with his 2 contact regarding similar design.
It seems that the price he got was wayyyy above this price.
What done is done, just gotta move forward.

Anyway I called the gate supplier again. powder coated already.
16 feet folding gate.
4 panel, each panel 200 kg. total 800kg  doh.gif
So damm heavy. blink.gif

Any one here can recommend a suitable autogate arm that can handle this spec.  notworthy.gif
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wah....what design will it be...please post the photo once you done.
You need a Bigger Arm, if not mistake diffrential of 1K.

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QUOTE(Jcyteh @ Nov 30 2011, 04:58 PM)
How is the quality? Noisy when sliding? thunder and water resistant?  smile.gif
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So far so good. Been running about a month. Closing and opening noisy because my small gate causing the noise, not the motor.
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As I'm going to do folding gate about 19" width...
My contractor tell me to redo the concrete slab part for the gate, so it'll be more compact and will not have sinking rail in future...

I also got quote for alarm + auto gate system at touching RM5k (RM2.8k alarm + RM1.8k Autogate + RM300 armed cable)

My quote for the gate with aluminium wood panel is @ RM4.5k + stainless steel rollers and 3/8" stainless steel rod rail...

Is that price around market pricing?
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Dec 1 2011, 10:09 AM)
As I'm going to do folding gate about 19" width...
My contractor tell me to redo the concrete slab part for the gate, so it'll be more compact and will not have sinking rail in future...

I also got quote for alarm + auto gate system at touching RM5k (RM2.8k alarm + RM1.8k Autogate + RM300 armed cable)

My quote for the gate with aluminium wood panel is @ RM4.5k + stainless steel rollers and 3/8" stainless steel rod rail...

Is that price around market pricing?
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What model/brand the Autogate alone. Can share?
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Dec 1 2011, 11:42 AM)
What model/brand the Autogate alone. Can share?
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I got bronchus at house... contractor said is local brand...
Italy brand cost more than 3k...

I'll let you know the brand tomorrow...
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I'm new to autogate here. Need to know form all sifus here, can I use existing cable for gate light as autogate cable. Otherwise need to hack the floor tile and plaster ceiling to pull a new wire.
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QUOTE(netcrawler @ Dec 1 2011, 10:03 PM)
I'm new to autogate here. Need to know form all sifus here, can I use existing cable for gate light as autogate cable. Otherwise need to hack the floor tile and plaster ceiling to pull a new wire.
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there is armour cable provided in my new house but there is only 3 wires left at 1 side of the main gate and there is no control switch inside the house. one of the wireman say from the 7 cable (3 at side of the gate, 2 for pillar light, 2 for door bell). meanwhile inside the house near top of my DB there are bunch of 5 cables.

Is my house comes with autogate cable or not? cry.gif

How many wires for door bell and autogate switch?


7 cables in armour cable, how its divided? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Dec 1 2011, 11:42 AM)
What model/brand the Autogate alone. Can share?
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The brand is Weigand.
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The brand is Weigand.
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Thanks, I'll go check it out smile.gif
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How to know the cable is armour cable or normal cable? Can existing gate light cable used for autogate?

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anyone knows how to "tune" the speed of opening of auto gates on the IC board?

my auto gate now will open all the way until it hit the front gate pillar or anything that blocks it. i want it to slow down and stop before hitting the pillar. anyone knows how to do this?
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How to know the cable is armour cable or normal cable? Can existing gate light cable used for autogate?
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& Non-armored cable
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Thanks. What is the advantage of the armored cable? Can use exiting gate light cable for autogate since i don't really need
the light.

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Thanks. What is the advantage of the armored cable? Can use exiting gate light cable for autogate since i don't really need
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In the armored cables, the steel wires provides protection to the cable.
As for using the existing gate light cables for the auto gate, you need to check on the nos. of cores that is available. Then check with your auto gate supplier on the system requirement. Some auto gate system relies only on the remote controls. Meaning that all control is from the remote. Thus no additional wires for the control switch inside the house. So, better to check with your supplier first.
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Thanks. What is the advantage of the armored cable? Can use exiting gate light cable for autogate since i don't really need
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armored cable is needed to withstand the outside weather and temperature. without armored cable, your wire will become brittle over the time..
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If without Armored cable, can use GI pipe, and put in the wires. It sure are better protection but is less flexible and more expensive.
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If without Armored cable, can use GI pipe, and put in the wires. It sure are better protection but is less flexible and more expensive.
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main gate: 3.8k
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yes correct. it more expensive if you use GI pipe. i bought armor cable for rm7per meter. nway just installed autogate with new gate.

main gate: 3.8k
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Some info to share:

Sliding AC - slow, single speed, no backup, but more durable
Sliding DC - faster, dual speed(slows down b4 stop), option to add backup battery, for lightweight gate

Swing Arm - moderate speed, supports heavier gate, usually comes with backup battery
Underground - moves faster, IMO the motor is more lasting, only certain PCB supports backup battery, comes with a lockset, not suitable for folding gate


USUALLY a complete set comes with only 3 remote controls and a year warranty(by manufacturer). Anything beyond that is maybe from your supplier themselves.

9/10 brands with the 'Italian', 'Germany' Technology or so is actually made locally.
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For those that using DC Moto 905, what is your max remote range let's say from inside the car. Mine 10 meters also cannot reach.
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For those that using DC Moto 905, what is your max remote range let's say from inside the car. Mine 10 meters also cannot reach.
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ah...why you want to open your door 10 meters away? SHould you only open almost reach???
What the best practice?


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best practice... the gate open just in time for your car to enter
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10 Meter wow, 33 feet, very very big gate.
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10m for the range of the auto gate remote. Not the gate size. smile.gif
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ah...why you want to open your door 10 meters away? SHould you only open almost reach???
What the best practice?
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Dec 13 2011, 07:56 AM)
best practice... the gate open just in time for your car to enter
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Cause I would like to press it slightly before reaching the house and by the time the car reaches the gate, the gate is wide enough for the car to enter.
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Need to ask all experts here, can auto gate cater for all type of gates? Let's say I have swing gate now, could I use the same autogate if I change the gate in folding type. Anything need to change?
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10m for the range of the auto gate remote. Not the gate size. smile.gif
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Oh, sorry. Must be my eye getting tired after the renovation.

Mine can open 3 to 4 houses away. It all depend where you locate the receiver and the signal strength. I find the cheaper non encrypted (no code hopping) remote always have better range. And I am using old remote too, I am using one remote for two house (My mother and my house one remote)
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Cause I would like to press it slightly before reaching the house and by the time the car reaches the gate, the gate is wide enough for the car to enter.
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I guess there are pro and cons to this, but this certainly will be a good option to have. thumbup.gif
Is yours a folding gate?
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Any sifu here knowing any powder coated factory can powder coat a door measuring 6' height X 16' length ?

Appreciate any input.
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Any sifu here knowing any powder coated factory can powder coat a door measuring 6' height X 16' length ?

Appreciate any input.
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These are normally arranged by your gate manufacturer as it will need the transportation to and fro and later installation at your house. Better to let your gate manufacturer take care.
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These are normally arranged by your gate manufacturer as it will need the transportation to and fro and later installation at your house. Better to let your gate manufacturer take care.
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Gate manufacturer already promised to deliver but lately found out they have this problem doh.gif
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Gate manufacturer already promised to deliver but lately found out they have this problem  doh.gif
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If you do a search in this forum for powder coating, you will some guys providing this service.
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If you do a search in this forum for powder coating, you will some guys providing this service.
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OT: Can I sell existing gate to gate dealer if I want to replace the gate?
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OT: Can I sell existing gate to gate dealer if I want to replace the gate?
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U mean selling them to scrap metal collector? Don't expect to get much as it will be based on the weight  smile.gif
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just to ask, can install the motor only to the current gate or i have to change the whole gate?
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Any idea how much does it cost for the swing door about 20ft + sliding motor??? Normal & simple design...
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Hi all, would like to ask about automatic folding gate.. I'm new to it but I want to get one for my house..under renovation now..

Yesterday found a discount on the newspaper..and I called them up to ask for quotation..not sure is the price reasonable or not..

13' Wrought Iron Folding Gate (with 4 pieces of door) + Galvanised + Powder Coated + GI Bolt? + Motor
Quotation = RM4500 (He claimed that RM220/ft for the gate only) excluded cabling.

One question for cabling, I didn't change my car porch and driveway's tiles, so if the contractor want to pull the cable for auto gate, they need to hack the tiles to embed the wiring? So it will be another cost for replacing floor tiles?? Please advise.

Is it reasonable? Any recommended contractor to introduce to me? Please pm me the contact, thanks a lot!
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Hi all, would like to ask about automatic folding gate.. I'm new to it but I want to get one for my house..under renovation now..

Yesterday found a discount on the newspaper..and I called them up to ask for quotation..not sure is the price reasonable or not..

13' Wrought Iron Folding Gate (with 4 pieces of door) + Galvanised + Powder Coated + GI Bolt? + Motor
Quotation = RM4500 (He claimed that RM220/ft for the gate only) excluded cabling.

One question for cabling, I didn't change my car porch and driveway's tiles, so if the contractor want to pull the cable for auto gate, they need to hack the tiles to embed the wiring? So it will be another cost for replacing floor tiles?? Please advise.

Is it reasonable? Any recommended contractor to introduce to me? Please pm me the contact, thanks a lot!
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If your existing house don't have cabling you can run it expose or hidden. Usually you can run the cable along the wall. To conceal is much easier to hack the wall instead of floor. Cement patching is much easier than floor tiles.

Next you have to be careful of water pipe, but if its new house without any repair of pipe usually is underground so no worry.
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If your existing house don't have cabling you can run it expose or hidden. Usually you can run the cable along the wall. To conceal is much easier to hack the wall instead of floor. Cement patching is much easier than floor tiles.

Next you have to be careful of water pipe, but if its new house without any repair of pipe usually is underground so no worry.
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Thanks for your reply weikee. It's a corner lot, so I have only 1 party wall at car porch and driveway, is it possible to concealed the cabling into the party wall (one brickwall only)? The brickwall just done last week only. I choose not to hack the floor tiles if possible because that will be additional cost for hacking and repairing floor tiles. =.="

It's an old house. Existing house don't have cabling because it's not an autogate.

Do you have any idea what the cost like for folding gate? Got several quotation, almost 4-5k, but got 1 quoted estimate RM3500.

Any recommended contractor please?
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Thanks for your reply weikee. It's a corner lot, so I have only 1 party wall at car porch and driveway, is it possible to concealed the cabling into the party wall (one brickwall only)? The brickwall just done last week only. I choose not to hack the floor tiles if possible because that will be additional cost for hacking and repairing floor tiles. =.="

It's an old house. Existing house don't have cabling because it's not an autogate.

Do you have any idea what the cost like for folding gate? Got several quotation, almost 4-5k, but got 1 quoted estimate RM3500.

Any recommended contractor please?
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If the wall are link back to your living room and without supporting pillar, it maybe possible to conceal all. It also depend where you want to locate the open/close switch. Some people choose not to have permanent switch inside the house due to cabling issue, they use remote in the house too.

The most critical part is get the a/c power for your gate.

I usually don't recommend. Think if you have search few contractor, your pricing are not much off. You need to know the autogate brand too. Is it from China? From Malaysia or Italy (I doubt)


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If the wall are link back to your living room and without supporting pillar, it maybe possible to conceal all. It also depend where you want to locate the open/close switch. Some people choose not to have permanent switch inside the house due to cabling issue, they use remote in the house too.

The most critical part is get the a/c power for your gate.

I usually don't recommend. Think if you have search few contractor, your pricing are not much off. You need to know the autogate brand too. Is it from China? From Malaysia or Italy (I doubt)
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Nope, the wall link to the staircase because my staircase is attached to the party wall, and there's DB and switches besides the staircase.

A/C power? Do you mean the power of the motor to swing the folding gate?

It's a local brand, it's their own brand I think. So is better to take any brand except China right? :hmm:
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Nope, the wall link to the staircase because my staircase is attached to the party wall, and there's DB and switches besides the staircase.

A/C power? Do you mean the power of the motor to swing the folding gate?

It's a local brand, it's their own brand I think. So is better to take any brand except China right?  hmm.gif
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most important can source for spare parts. You can ask the wireman / autogate installer to recommend best wires route.
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just to ask, can install the motor only to the current gate or i have to change the whole gate?
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Depending on the space available below the gate. Anyway, in most cases, should be able to install the auto gate.
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Guys,
sorry to interrupt..
Anyone has duplicated the remote control (4 buttons) before for your autogate and cost below 50 ? If yes, pls recommend a place to do this in PJ / Damansara?
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Guys,
sorry to interrupt..
Anyone has duplicated the remote control (4 buttons) before for your autogate and cost below 50 ?  If yes, pls recommend a place to do this in PJ / Damansara?
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Most key maker will be able to do that. Don't know how much it will cost
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Most key maker will be able to do that. Don't know how much it will cost
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Don't know about 4 button, but 2 button I got it from lelong. http://www.lelong.com.my/universal-remote-...7-01-Sale-I.htm

If you are using code hopping, remote will be more expensive. Do check with the seller.
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Yeah..a key maker quoted me 50 for one , but I guess he refers to 2 buttons as I forgot to tell him mine is 4...

Thanks guys..
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Yeah..a key maker quoted me 50 for one , but I guess he refers to 2 buttons as I forgot to tell him mine is 4...

Thanks guys..
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I got like 4 spare remote biggrin.gif Last time Lelong seller got promotion, brought many and it use as spare now. Is so much cheaper than asking the key maker to duplicate. Some charging RM 80 for a dip switch duplicate.
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Hey guys. What is the diffrence between 2 button remote and those more than 2.?
Does it mean that those remote that has more button can do 1 side gate open whereas the 2 button remote cannot ah? blink.gif
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Hey guys. What is the diffrence between 2 button remote and those more than 2.?
Does it mean that those remote that has more button can do 1 side gate open whereas the 2 button remote cannot ah? blink.gif
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I think depend what is configure. Mine only 2 button, with one to open the right door only, another to open both.

Maybe the other 2 are for opening the Left door and pillar light.
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I got like 4 spare remote biggrin.gif Last time Lelong seller got promotion, brought many and it use as spare now. Is so much cheaper than asking the key maker to duplicate. Some charging RM 80 for a dip switch duplicate.
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if you just buy hardware from lelong, how do u program the remote that you bought? i know there r dip switch inside the remote, but i remember that we need to tune the frequency for the remote as well using the special device?
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if you just buy hardware from lelong, how do u program the remote that you bought? i know there r dip switch inside the remote, but i remember that we need to tune the frequency for the remote as well using the special device?
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Usually no need to tune, mostly run on the same frequency, if you need there a screw to tune it too. Most autogate is all dip switch. Another type is copying, you press the new remote, and old remote together, it will copy the code over.

Unless you are using more secure type, with code hopping, Which I am not sure how on autogate. But for car I got few spare too smile.gif

For my case, My mother and my house I only use one remote. Carry less remote.


Added on December 22, 2011, 12:41 pmHere some example of code hopping, it can be dup too.
http://szyet.en.alibaba.com/product/440749...rol_YET004.html

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ya.. the 4 buttons rc that I have controls left, right, both, and alarm triggering function..

Look here...
http://www.lelong.com.my/d-i-y-auto-gate-r...2-11-Sale-P.htm

Is that easy?
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btw, anyone know what the code for the gate paint? i saw rust when am back home yesterday at my tiles under gate. not sure from where it came from probably from the gate. rclxub.gif
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hi,

got a open question here.. i got a folding gate and i would like to explore the following:
1. add a small gate/door on the folding gate itself. there're 4 panels.. which is the better panel position to add?
2. have a side small 3-feet gate next to the main gate.

what are the cost between these 2 options above? any recommended contact(s) to do such jobs?

thank you very much.
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hi,

got a open question here.. i got a folding gate and i would like to explore the following:
1. add a small gate/door on the folding gate itself. there're 4 panels.. which is the better panel position to add?
2. have a side small 3-feet gate next to the main gate.

what are the cost between these 2 options above? any recommended contact(s) to do such jobs?

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If you have the space to spare, having the small 3ft gate next to the main gate would be the best.
Of course,having the additional 3ft gate will cost more than having a small gate within the main folding gate.
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hi,

got a open question here.. i got a folding gate and i would like to explore the following:
1. add a small gate/door on the folding gate itself. there're 4 panels.. which is the better panel position to add?
2. have a side small 3-feet gate next to the main gate.

what are the cost between these 2 options above? any recommended contact(s) to do such jobs?

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1 if you add a small gate door in the folding gate. usually people will add in the middle 2 panels.
Left or right makes no difference.
It mainly depends on your house configuration and how the small gate relate to the window where you can easily see who is coming in through this small gate.

2 having a small side gate is usually suitable for house with a wide front as this will decrease the space available for your main autogate.
Another factor that supports having a small gate is that you want a small garden to the side of your car porch.

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thanks for the input.. however, what would be the cost like?
ballpark figure wise..

does option:
1. gate on the gate cost somewhere below rm500? (they have to take back the entire gate to do the opening, rite?

2. a side gate will involve hacking of the wall and widening of the.. what do you call that? the driveway that leads out to the road? so some minor construction job is required rite?... rm1200 would suffice?


kelvyn,
can always "make space" one, rite? laugh.gif i just have to be careful of the water meter/pipe and stuff.


phoenix69,
the middle panel... hhmmnn.. it's the weakest as opposed to the panel nearest to the wall rite? assuming the high of the gate is the same for all panels.. will consider your input

that(small garden thingy) can't do sir.. cos the whole front is tiled up to the brim.. sweat.gif

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so, you already have your main gate done up. Now wants to add either a small gate withing the main gate or an additional small stand alone gate beside the main gate.
If that's the case, having to remove the existing main gate and modify to accommodate the small gate may cost quite close to constructing an additional small gate beside. This will also depends on your main gate. Without taking a look at the existing gate and site condition, would be difficult.
Why don't you get the contractors to take a look for them to give an accurate quote.
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my house has own alarm sys. Thinking to make the remote control combine with my autogate. So it is possible? Enough channel or not?
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plan to make double rail sliding doors for my house. so wanna ask the price around how much for 10' stainless steel or wrought iron sliding door.
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plan to make double rail sliding doors for my house. so wanna ask the price around how much for 10' stainless steel or wrought iron sliding door.
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For more accurate estimate, get the gate manufacturer to quote you
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Recently I got a quotation from a contractor..

I asked him to quote for the following:

1) 13' Wrought Iron Folding Gate (With simple horizontal rail, top steel bottom wood)
2) Powder coated + Galvanised
3) Heavy Duty Motor System
4) Galvanised Bolt and Nut
5) Armoured Wiring concealed into wall

Price : RM4,700

Is it reasonable?
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Recently I got a quotation from a contractor..

I asked him to quote for the following:

1) 13' Wrought Iron Folding Gate (With simple horizontal rail, top steel bottom wood)
2) Powder coated + Galvanised
3) Heavy Duty Motor System
4) Galvanised Bolt and Nut
5) Armoured Wiring concealed into wall

Price : RM4,700

Is it reasonable?
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I guess this price is very reasonable and at the cheap side. How much the quote for laying armoured cable alone?
Where is your place? KV?

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QUOTE(KiDkillER @ Jan 6 2012, 11:27 AM)
Recently I got a quotation from a contractor..

I asked him to quote for the following:

1) 13' Wrought Iron Folding Gate (With simple horizontal rail, top steel bottom wood)
2) Powder coated + Galvanised
3) Heavy Duty Motor System
4) Galvanised Bolt and Nut
5) Armoured Wiring concealed into wall

Price : RM4,700

Is it reasonable?
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reasonable cheap....

I got mine 19' x 5.5' quoted at RM4700++ too
Vertical aluminum panel with wood effect.
Powder coated (no galvanized) + Stainless steel roller and rails.
Stainless Steel Bolt and nut.

WITHOUT motor and wiring.

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Thinking of choosing a autogate.
More or less decided to go for DC Moto
Is there is basic model for DC moto, without all the frills??

It seems that the sensor for autogate are not stable. true ah?
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Thinking of choosing a autogate.
More or less decided to go for DC Moto
Is there is basic model for DC moto, without all the frills??

It seems that the sensor for autogate are not stable. true ah?
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the sensor is an add on feature for the DC Moto. The basic model does not come with it
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how about MAG ARM GATE? Got the quotation rm1.2k
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I guess this price is very reasonable and at the cheap side. How much the quote for laying armoured cable  alone?
Where is your place? KV?
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Cool! Then I'm going to confirm with the guy. If not mistaken, the armoured cable cost about RM500-600. He quoted RM5100, after negotiation, then he gave a final discount at RM4700. My house at Bukit Rimau.


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reasonable cheap....

I got mine 19' x 5.5' quoted at RM4700++ too
Vertical aluminum panel with wood effect.
Powder coated (no galvanized) + Stainless steel roller and rails.
Stainless Steel Bolt and nut.

WITHOUT motor and wiring.
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Then mine 1 considered cheap..but not sure how's the performance of the motor...he claimed that it's heavy duty..when moving..it might has very slightly sound only and move smoothly..

But mine 1 is wrought iron, galvanised + powder coated..Stainless Steel bolt and nut. + motor and armoured cable. Half horizontal rail + half wood.

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the sensor is an add on feature for the DC Moto. The basic model does not come with it
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I was offered
1.Full spec with sensor, keypad, 4 button remote, all the bell and whistle
2.Spec without sensor, include keypad , 4 button remote, less RM100-200
3.Basic spec, no keypad, 2 button remote., further less RM300-400

Is option 2 worth it?
Option 3 is it still DC moto. Less what function?

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Cool! Then I'm going to confirm with the guy. If not mistaken, the armoured cable cost about RM500-600. He quoted RM5100, after negotiation, then he gave a final discount at RM4700. My house at Bukit Rimau.
Laying armoured cable for RM500-600 is considered cheap. Does it including hacking and plastering? I'm also looking for some one to
install autogate? My place is Klang and not far from Bukit Rimau.
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Jan 9 2012, 12:23 AM)
I was offered
1.Full spec with sensor, keypad, 4 button remote, all the bell and whistle
2.Spec without sensor, include keypad , 4 button remote, less RM100-200
3.Basic spec, no keypad, 2 button remote., further less RM300-400

Is option 2 worth it?
Option 3 is it still DC moto. Less what function?
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I assume that the above are referring to DC Moto. I am using one.
Actually, what sensor are you referring to?
It is the sensor for the pillar lights or the sensor for the passing vehicle?
What's the keypad for? hmm.gif

Mine comes with 4 button remote. There is a sensor for the pillar lights

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I assume that the above are referring to DC Moto. I am using one.
Actually, what sensor are you referring to?
It is the sensor for the pillar lights or the sensor for the passing vehicle?
What's the keypad for? hmm.gif

Mine comes with 4 button remote. There is a sensor for the pillar lights
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Yup. I asked 3 suppliers.

2 of them say, no sensor as it is not stable. (they exculde)
Got keypad that control panic button, switch off gate. Got 2 button remote.
With sensor also can, additional charge.

The 3rd one say got all the above + sensor full spec only.

Is the sensor really that unstable? hmm.gif


Then 2 of the spplier say can get dc moto basic,
No keypad. 2 button remote.


Is this DC Moto? hmm.gif




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Yup. I asked 3 suppliers.

2 of them say, no sensor as it is not stable. (they exculde)
Got keypad that control panic button, switch off gate. Got 2 button remote.
With sensor also can, additional charge.

The 3rd one say got all the above + sensor full spec only.

Is the sensor really that unstable?  hmm.gif
Then 2 of the spplier say can get dc moto basic,
No keypad. 2 button remote.
Is this DC Moto?  hmm.gif
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check these out

http://www.dcmoto.com.my/gfm725_905_2.html

I am having the 4 buttons remote.
1. open and close both gates
2. Open left gate
3. Open right gate
4. Spare - which is connected to control the pillar lights


As for the sensor, my guess is that they could be covered with dust (you know out air pollution la...) and thus becomes unreliable.

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check these out

http://www.dcmoto.com.my/gfm725_905_2.html

I am having the 4 buttons remote.
1. open and close both gates
2. Open left gate
3. Open right gate
4. Spare - which is connected to control the pillar lights
As for the sensor, my guess is that they could be covered with dust (you know out air pollution la...) and thus becomes unreliable.
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Hi Kelvyn, in=m interested in havin DC-MOTO for my autogate as well. Could you share ya experience with this model, ie why you chose this brand and its reliability? Also, do you mind sharing ya suplier for DC-MOTO? Txs in advance.
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Hi I had just had my auto gate installed. It's swing out type but when I open it, the gate will open until kena the pillar. I ask my installer and they said it's normal. I remember my friends' autogates didn't kena the pillar. I'm worried that after some time the pillar's cement will come off or the gate badly scratched.
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Hi Kelvyn, in=m interested in havin DC-MOTO for my autogate as well. Could you share ya experience with this model, ie why you chose this brand and its reliability? Also, do you mind sharing ya suplier for DC-MOTO? Txs in advance.
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I choose DC Moto because my gate is the folding type. It allows the folding gate panels to be close together when fully opened; thus having a larger effective opening width. If I was to use the use the telescopic arm type, it could reduce the opening width due to the arm between the gate panels.
I believe there are other brands...

Already PM you the supplier's contact.


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Hi I had just had my auto gate installed. It's swing out type but when I open it, the gate will open until kena the pillar. I ask my installer and they said it's normal. I remember my friends' autogates didn't kena the pillar. I'm worried that after some time the pillar's cement will come off or the gate badly scratched.
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You could ask your auto gate installer to place a rubber stopper at both the pillars. Problem solved. biggrin.gif

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Hi Kelvln,
PM me the contact of your Autogate installer too. Could let me know the price roughly?
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Hi Kelvln,
PM me the contact of your Autogate installer too. Could let me know the price roughly?
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jan 31 2012, 05:31 PM)
I choose DC Moto because my gate is the folding type. It allows the folding gate panels to be close together when fully opened; thus having a larger effective opening width. If I was to use the use the telescopic arm type, it could reduce the opening width due to the arm between the gate panels. 
I believe there are other brands...

Already PM you the supplier's contact.


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You could ask your auto gate installer to place a rubber stopper at both the pillars. Problem solved. biggrin.gif
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Thanks, kelvyn.i had call and ask them to instll the stopper only then I pay them.
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jan 31 2012, 05:31 PM)
I choose DC Moto because my gate is the folding type. It allows the folding gate panels to be close together when fully opened; thus having a larger effective opening width. If I was to use the use the telescopic arm type, it could reduce the opening width due to the arm between the gate panels. 
I believe there are other brands...
What the distance between your two panel after folding???
My after folding taken around 1.5Feets rclxub.gif
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What the distance between your two panel after folding???
My after folding taken around 1.5Feets  rclxub.gif
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I did not really measured mine. But don't think it takes up 1.5ft. 1.5ft is quite a lot.
From what I have asked around and own analysis, the effective gate opening width is depended on the mechanism of the auto gate (arm or the level type) and also how the gate is being fabricated (the hinge between the 2 gate panels)

Anyway in my case, the attachment mechanism at the gate was installed on the side of the gate panel. If it was installed to the bottom of the gate, the gap between the gate panels will be even closer. Anyway the difference is quite marginal. My reason of not attaching to the bottom is because this will require the removal of the tile skirting at the pillars (which was done earlier) as the controlling gear/ motor will need to be lower.
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jan 31 2012, 05:31 PM)
I choose DC Moto because my gate is the folding type. It allows the folding gate panels to be close together when fully opened; thus having a larger effective opening width. If I was to use the use the telescopic arm type, it could reduce the opening width due to the arm between the gate panels. 
I believe there are other brands...

Already PM you the supplier's contact.


Added on January 31, 2012, 5:33 pm

You could ask your auto gate installer to place a rubber stopper at both the pillars. Problem solved. biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the info bro. Will contact them soon. Appreciate ya input. God bless!
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guys,

is all gate can pasang autogate? mine is swing type. I know, there is swing type auto gate but i wonder if design of gate limits the autogate functionality.
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May I know what's the price for auto gate motor and cabeling for the brand Celmer? My autogate got problem just after installing for 2 weeks (alignment haywire and insensitive remote control) and I wonder if I was given an inferior brand. My neighbour installed their autogate for cheaper price and no problem at all with their autogate.
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May I know what's the price for auto gate motor and cabeling for the brand Celmer? My autogate got problem just after installing for 2 weeks (alignment haywire and insensitive remote control) and I wonder if I was given an inferior brand. My neighbour installed their autogate for cheaper price and no problem at all with their autogate.
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How much the total installation? Most likely is installer problem.
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RM1800, just the motor and cabels.
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If the cables include installation than is cheap. Hacking and installing armor cable can be from 400 to 1k depend on site.

What is the brand? You should call back the installer and check.
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If the cables include installation than is cheap. Hacking and installing armor cable can be from 400 to 1k depend on site.

What is the brand? You should call back the installer and check.
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The brand is Celmer. Yeah, install cable from switch inside my house to the gate pillar. Use back my old gate without doing the bearing.

My neighbour did for RM1700 and include bearing. I don't mind the fact that I pay more than my neighbours but I'm starting to wonder whether I'm paying the price for what I get? Or I was over quote?

So far, comparing theirs to mine, I noticed their gate open and close quite smoothly, remote can be sensed from far. Mine : open and close very slow and now left hand side became slower so currently looks very imbalance. When I press my remote to 'open' then try to press again to 'stop', the gate don't respond to stop immediately. Need to press one more time, only it will respond. rclxub.gif

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The brand is Celmer. Yeah, install cable from switch inside my house to the gate pillar. Use back my old gate without doing the bearing.

My neighbour did for RM1700 and include bearing. I don't mind the fact that I pay more than my neighbours but I'm starting to wonder whether I'm paying the price for what I get? Or I was over quote?

So far, comparing theirs to mine, I noticed their gate open and close quite smoothly, remote can be sensed from far. Mine : open and close very slow and now left hand side became slower so currently looks very imbalance. When I press my remote to 'open' then try to press again to 'stop', the gate don't respond to stop immediately. Need to press one more time, only it will respond.  rclxub.gif
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You need to have bearing, if not the gate will not close or open smooth (especially when gate is heavy) Better ask the installer come and check.

How is your remote look like? I have 7 remote with me smile.gif, 4 are dip switch, 3 are copy. The copy type will respond slower.

Don't compare price. We can always find cheaper after we brought the things.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 8 2012, 12:01 AM)
You need to have bearing, if not the gate will not close or open smooth (especially when gate is heavy) Better ask the installer come and check.

How is your remote look like? I have 7 remote with me smile.gif, 4 are dip switch, 3 are copy. The copy type will respond slower.

Don't compare price. We can always find cheaper after we brought the things.
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Agreed bro, once compare sure kns one LoL btw the 4 with dip switch one come in package with they autogate when you install? I am also looking for autogate, after read through this thread, seems like I am getting nothing sad.gif
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Think it come with 3.

I am setting it identical to my mom house, so I use one remote for 2 houses. Previously, my mom house I brought some extra remote @ Lelong. That is how I have so many now smile.gif

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You need to have bearing, if not the gate will not close or open smooth (especially when gate is heavy) Better ask the installer come and check.

How is your remote look like? I have 7 remote with me smile.gif, 4 are dip switch, 3 are copy. The copy type will respond slower.

Don't compare price. We can always find cheaper after we brought the things.
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Anyone ever engaged SmartHome Technology Solution to install autogate before. They offer DC-MOTO GFM 905 for RM1350 on Mudah.my. Appreciate any feedback on their services. Thank you.
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Anyone ever engaged SmartHome Technology Solution to install autogate before. They offer DC-MOTO GFM 905 for RM1350 on Mudah.my. Appreciate any feedback on their services. Thank you.
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DC-MOTO GFM 905 for RM1350 seems cheap. Never try before but let us know if you have installed one.
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Come with normal or code hopping remotes?
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 8 2012, 12:01 AM)
You need to have bearing, if not the gate will not close or open smooth (especially when gate is heavy) Better ask the installer come and check.

How is your remote look like? I have 7 remote with me smile.gif, 4 are dip switch, 3 are copy. The copy type will respond slower.

Don't compare price. We can always find cheaper after we brought the things.
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How to say.. the simple 2 button type. One for opening one side only, another to open two side. Press back the same button to stop and to close back.

Not trying to compare price.. but very sakit hati when you see the door doesn't operated as good as you want. Just need to know.. am I paying the correct price for Celmer autogate? If yes, then I accept the fact and ask the ppl to come again and adjust.

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Are you using the type of auto gate in which the motors are concealed underground? If I recall correctly, I have come across recently that it cost less than RM900 include installation; but exclude the amour cabling from the house to the gate pillar. As this system is underground, they are prone to water seepage due to hardening of the rubber seals. Thus damaging the motor. On top of that, there is the problem with hydraulic leakages. Following these reoccurring problems, many suppliers are reluctant to supply these system to avoid complains from house owners.
I was using this system in my previous house and was having problem in getting replacement parts.

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Are you using the type of auto gate in which the motors are concealed underground? If I recall correctly, I have come across recently that it cost less than RM900 include installation; but exclude the amour cabling from the house to the gate pillar. As this system is underground, they are prone to water seepage due to hardening of the rubber seals. Thus damaging the motor. On top of that, there is the problem with hydraulic leakages. Following these reoccurring problems, many suppliers are reluctant to supply these system to avoid complains from house owners.
I was using this system in my previous house and was having problem in getting replacement parts.
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The submerge system is ok lah. Not too bad. My In-Law house been using for > 10 years. Only recently got problem not because of the motor but because the gate now offset already. Maybe due to faulty bearing.

If you see some submerge installer actually raid 1/2" up so water won't go in easy. And use proper O ring can last very very long. I was quote more expensive for submerge because it need to dig bigger hole.


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How to say.. the simple 2 button type. One for opening one side only, another to open two side. Press back the same button to stop and to close back.

Not trying to compare price.. but very sakit hati when you see the door doesn't operated as good as you want. Just need to know.. am I paying the correct price for Celmer autogate? If yes, then I accept the fact and ask the ppl to come again and adjust.
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Not sure if Celmer local or imported. Ask them come and check again.

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Ok, this is what i got from SmartHome for the DC-MOTO 905.
RM1350 is basic without photobeam and RM1500 is full specs including sensor and anti-spy remote. It has one year warranty and give three free service during warranty period. Below is what they advertise in Mudah.com with thier contact at the bottom. Note that they don't have office in KL but only in Melaka but said can install in Klang Valley.

Price : RM 1 350

DC Moto 905 Swing/Folding Type AutoGate
**Suitable for Both Swing & Folding Gate System

Package Content:
DC MOTO 905 Swing Type DC Motor x2
DC Controller Board with PVC Box
Transformer & Backup Battery
Multifunctional Keypad x 1
Drivind Bar, Bracket & Boils
Antispy Remote Control x 3
Standard Installation (without Wiring)

Function:
1)Open Left / Right / Both Gate
2)ON / OFF Pillar Light with Multifunctional Keypad (depend on exiting wiring)
3)Panic Siren (Alarm) function
4)Auto recharge backup Battery
5)Auto reverse function (Open) the door when detect object (Must install Photo Beam Sensor)

Optional Item:
Safety Photo Beam Sensor -RM180
Siren Horn with 12V Delay - RM45
Additional Antispy Remote Control -RM60

Contact:
SmartHome Technology Solution
KS Tan (012-2710168)
Email: kstan83@gmail.com


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Price look good. Never really check DC motor price. Only got one quote some months back, but never want to use it. Don't want a bulk box on the wall.
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Price look good. Never really check DC motor price. Only got one quote some months back, but never want to use it. Don't want a bulk box on the wall.
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Which one you recommended for autogate? What is the price range and reliability.
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I use local arm type, brand is OAE. Reliable or not.. not sure still running after 2+ months. Some gates due to size and weight may need difference specification.
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If the gate is stainless steel The price may up to 10k++
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being quoted RM1400 (incl. installation but excl. wiring) for foldable swing type gate GM-328 ... anybody using it? reliable?

http://www.goldmark.com.my/Product/Product.html
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is my time to go for autogate biggrin.gif after read some review from several website, found few comments but which are relatively low

http://www.planetmy.com/blog/auto-gate-problem-again/
Mentioning problem for OAE autogate and giving some good feedback regarding DCMoto brand.

Anyway, for those who are looking for product Brochure for autogate (ignore the price as in the website), just wish to have a look on the spec, you may go to the site below, quite informative
http://autogatemalaysia.blogspot.com/
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QUOTE(leeyung @ Feb 15 2012, 10:47 PM)
is my time to go for autogate biggrin.gif after read some review from several website, found few comments but which are relatively low

http://www.planetmy.com/blog/auto-gate-problem-again/
Mentioning problem for OAE autogate and giving some good feedback regarding DCMoto brand.

Anyway, for those who are looking for product Brochure for autogate (ignore the price as in the website), just wish to have a look on the spec, you may go to the site below, quite informative
http://autogatemalaysia.blogspot.com/
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If you read the comment further, problem come from installer and controller board. OAE and many other arm are reliable, but the installer and control unit is the main cause.
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If you read the comment further, problem come from installer and controller board. OAE and many other arm are reliable, but the installer and control unit is the main cause.
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yeap bro, the installer's after sales service pretty sux, that is why I am still wondering around to gather more info, because my friend using OAE without any problem also
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I am also using it for coming to 3 months.
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I am also using it for coming to 3 months.
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My concern is the water seepage issue, do you have any comment on this based on your previous autogate experiences?
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So far this is 2nd house using autogate. My Mom house using sliding gate, have been running good, problem we faced mainly our fault. Gate was not fully open and we reversed out, damage the sensor. Still fixable.

my current house, normal swing type. So far ok.

Why water seeepage got to do with Autogate? I don't see how it cause this in autogate.

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QUOTE(leeyung @ Feb 15 2012, 10:47 PM)
is my time to go for autogate biggrin.gif after read some review from several website, found few comments but which are relatively low

http://www.planetmy.com/blog/auto-gate-problem-again/
Mentioning problem for OAE autogate and giving some good feedback regarding DCMoto brand.

Anyway, for those who are looking for product Brochure for autogate (ignore the price as in the website), just wish to have a look on the spec, you may go to the site below, quite informative
http://autogatemalaysia.blogspot.com/
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 15 2012, 11:41 PM)
So far this is 2nd house using autogate. My Mom house using sliding gate, have been running good, problem we faced mainly our fault. Gate was not fully open and we reversed out, damage the sensor. Still fixable.

my current house, normal swing type. So far ok.

Why water seeepage got to do with Autogate? I don't see how it cause this in autogate.
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Because my friend's house the old autogate underground arm motor flooded due to seepage of water
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You not using submerged system right?
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You not using submerged system right?
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before this think of submerged, after considering the seepage of water issue, then plan to go for the swing arm system (exposed one)
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I don't think seepage is an issue. My in-law house using submerged type for so many years without problem. Think it come with a casing and it should be water proof too.
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because I read from here the last section, the typical underground arm motor flooded due to seepage of water after several years.
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I think you worry too much. Sometime considering too many factor will make you not want to do what you want.
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brows.gif ya lor, first time mah, so will consider a lot, so end up most properly I will just go for DC Moto 905, seems to be not bad and affordable price
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Well that use those Pilar type lol, ease maintain without need hacking tiles out
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Arm type is cheaper smile.gif easy troubleshoot too.
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Anyone try D'nor (Model 715 with 5 buttons remote control) Arm Autogate before? This is for my new house. Or OAE is better? I'm using OAE for my current house & it has been more than 6 years without any issue.
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Anyone try D'nor (Model 715 with 5 buttons remote control) Arm Autogate before? This is for my new house. Or OAE is better? I'm using OAE for my current house & it has been more than 6 years without any issue.
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gonna make my gate soon.. planning to make a double folding with rail gate. plan to make simple horizontal metal type powder coated black color.

a few questions..

1. roller/bolt/etc need to be galvanised or stainless steel? which one least maintenance if autogate wants to be installed in the future.
2. will my gate need to be repainted every year since its powder coated?

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what is armour cable?
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It is actually mentioned and discussed in this thread before, Click here Page 15, Post #295
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In layman's terms, it's is electrical cable which is heavily protected with thick covering(to prevent it from damage by excavation etc) to be used for outdoor purpose and can be buried underground. It is used for compound lights, auto gate. etc.

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hi guys.. got a question here.. is it possible to fabricate a small door for a folding type autogate? how much addition would it cost.. any idea?
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hi guys.. got a question here.. is it possible to fabricate a small door for a folding type autogate? how much addition would it cost.. any idea?
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hi guys.. got a question here.. is it possible to fabricate a small door for a folding type autogate? how much addition would it cost.. any idea?
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Normally charge rm 100

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The find that small internal door is more suitable for big sized tall gate.
I have one but dont use it at all since I have autogate.

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The find that small internal door is more suitable for big sized tall gate.
I have one but dont use it at all since I have autogate.
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I don't have small door in any of my autogate. I find it to be a nuisance.
Use a reliable auto gate and don't have to worry about breakdown. Having a reliable installer is also important for after sales service. Any problem can be resolve quickly.
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I don't have small door in any of my autogate. I find it to be a nuisance.
Use a reliable auto gate and don't have to worry about breakdown. Having a reliable installer is also important for after sales service. Any problem can be resolve quickly.
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Anything will breakdown, no matter how reliable and quality, it will break down one day. Even human will fall sick. And power failure do happen.
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Anything will breakdown, no matter how reliable and quality, it will break down one day. Even human will fall sick. And power failure do happen.
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that is why we need good after sales service
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I don't have small door in any of my autogate. I find it to be a nuisance.
Use a reliable auto gate and don't have to worry about breakdown. Having a reliable installer is also important for after sales service. Any problem can be resolve quickly.
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im thinking to get a small door too for my autogate...but after consider it will spoilt the gate design , so i end up not to having one......after survey for quite sometimes i decided to get a DC moto GFM 905 premium....they quote me RM 1350....additional 400 for the wire and etc....which mean lump sum would be RM 1800....im ok with the price, ok with the DC moto itself .....my question is this installer from seremban.....as been told by them (installer) they even cover up klang Valley area.....so for those sife here...its safe to trust them for after sales service....im from PJ....tq
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QUOTE(tecksoon @ Feb 20 2012, 12:59 AM)
im thinking to get a small door too for my autogate...but after consider it will spoilt the gate design , so i end up not to having one......after survey for quite sometimes i decided to get a DC moto GFM 905 premium....they quote me RM 1350....additional 400 for the wire and etc....which mean lump sum would be RM 1800....im ok with the price, ok with the DC moto itself .....my question is this installer from seremban.....as been told by them (installer) they even cover up klang Valley area.....so for those sife here...its safe to trust them for after sales service....im from PJ....tq
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1800 price with keypad, siren and beam sensor???
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QUOTE(tecksoon @ Feb 20 2012, 12:59 AM)
im thinking to get a small door too for my autogate...but after consider it will spoilt the gate design , so i end up not to having one......after survey for quite sometimes i decided to get a DC moto GFM 905 premium....they quote me RM 1350....additional 400 for the wire and etc....which mean lump sum would be RM 1800....im ok with the price, ok with the DC moto itself .....my question is this installer from seremban.....as been told by them (installer) they even cover up klang Valley area.....so for those sife here...its safe to trust them for after sales service....im from PJ....tq
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The DC moto 905 for 1.35k is quite cheap. I'm also consider to get this model but was quoted 1.6k. If the seller is reliable and good service
after sale, definitely will appeal to lot of potential customer. Too bad it's from Seremban. Pls let us know if u engage them.

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The DC moto 905 for 1.35k is quite cheap. I'm also consider to get this model but was quoted 1.6k. If the seller is reliable and good service
after sale, definitely will appeal to lot of potential customer. Too bad it's from Seremban. Pls let us know if u engage them.
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what is the package included for 1.6K? I was quoted with 1.4K including installation with 1 Keypad + 3 remotes, beam not sure included or not as I didnt notice that, but from what I survey, the beam sensor cost RM180
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1800 price with keypad, siren and beam sensor???
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no beam sensor and siren.....im not going into beam sensor...but siren yes....my other question is after the autogate complete is my house alarm....can the autogate panic button relate to house panic alarm as well....coz when "panic " situation occur..i dont wanna press 2 or 3 remote...as i need one quick button that activate all....im kindda new to all this, pls advise
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why need add panic button on the auto gate when you already having it in your house alarm? Just use the alarm panic button. Anyway the siren or what ever it is called on the house alarm will be much louder as compared to the auto gate....


From what I was told, there are various model of the controller panel for DC Moto. Different controller board even for the same model. So, do check this out with your supplier/ installer. Probably this is also the reason for the price difference...
What ever it is I am a strong believer that having a reliable after service installer is important unless after the installation, you are able to get another installer to provide the maintenance service. I remember an incident one morning when I received a call from a friend saying the he could not drive out his car from the porch as he auto gate is faulty and even the manual override switch is not working. His was using the arm type. He was not able to contact his auto gate installer who has gone missing.

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DC Moto GFM905 with the whole complete accessories - beam sensor, auto closing timer -- approx RM1800
DC Moto without sensor, auto closing timer (they say might give issue thus better to not have) -- approx RM1600
All comes with standard keypad, 3 anti-spy remote
Armour cable not involved.
-- Compilation from my previous research.
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A newbie question here.

We r planning to install a folding automate. Are the gate and the autogate moto/system installed by different installers? We were quoted rm3,800 for powder coated wrought iron with autogate for a 15.5 ft. Is this ok?

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A newbie question here.

We r planning to install a folding automate. Are the gate and the autogate moto/system installed by different installers? We were quoted rm3,800 for powder coated wrought iron with autogate for a 15.5 ft. Is this ok?

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The gate and auto gate system are 2 different thing.
There are suppliers/ contractors that provide service to supply and install the gate & the auto gate system. They will take care of the coordination and save you the hassle. But you end up paying a premium for this.
Alternatively, you could look for the gate manufacturer and auto gate supplier separately.

BTW, doubt that it is an actual wrought iron gate that's being quoted to you. Wrought iron gates are heavy and expensive.

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A newbie question here.

We r planning to install a folding automate. Are the gate and the autogate moto/system installed by different installers? We were quoted rm3,800 for powder coated wrought iron with autogate for a 15.5 ft. Is this ok?

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Price you got is consider reasonable. Does the gate galvanized as well? If galvanized then it's definitely worth it. Normally, Autogate system is around 1k plus but I bet those door package comes with autogate system. The autogate is not that good compared with the rest.
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Feb 20 2012, 09:05 AM)
DC Moto GFM905 with the whole complete accessories - beam sensor, auto closing timer -- approx RM1800
DC Moto without sensor, auto closing timer (they say might give issue thus better to not have) -- approx RM1600
All comes with standard keypad, 3 anti-spy remote
Armour cable not involved.
-- Compilation from my previous research.
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one of my gate pillar is those with built-in mail box and garbage bin which has the front and side doors. can DC Moto 905 can be fixed on such pillar? I'm afraid DC Moto might block the garbage bin side door since the auto gate is more or less tower shape.

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Feb 20 2012, 08:39 AM)
why need add panic button on the auto gate when you already having it in your house alarm? Just use the alarm panic button. Anyway the siren or what ever it is called on the house alarm will be much louder as compared to the auto gate....
From what I was told, there are various model of the controller panel for DC Moto. Different controller board even for the same model. So, do check this out with your supplier/ installer. Probably this is also the reason for the price difference...
What ever it is I am a strong believer that having a reliable after service installer is important unless after the installation, you are able to get another installer to provide the maintenance service. I remember an incident one morning when I received a call from a friend saying the he could not drive out his car from the porch as he auto gate is faulty and even the manual override switch is not working. His was using the arm type. He was not able to contact his auto gate installer who has gone missing.
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thinking to installed from autogate malaysia...any comment ....hey by the way do u have any recommend supplier for this gfm 905 tq in advance
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thinking to installed from autogate malaysia...any comment ....hey by the way do u have any recommend supplier for this gfm 905 tq in advance
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I suggest that you survey around 1st before you commit. There are plenty of suppliers.
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Tired for survey.....just need any recommend from sifu here.......by the way autogate malaysia sales person damn lansi....sorry to say they miss one genuine buyer....sigh
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Tired for survey.....just need any recommend from sifu here.......by the way autogate malaysia sales person damn lansi....sorry to say they miss one genuine buyer....sigh
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Is it? My bro bought OAE autogate from them. He said ok & recommended me also. By the way, I'm looking for this DCMoto GFM-905 as well. My friend have contact that carry this brand. I will talk to him tomorrow & share it here if the price & service are right. smile.gif

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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 20 2012, 09:54 PM)
Is it? My bro bought OAE autogate from them. He said ok & recommended me also. By the way, I'm looking for this DCMoto GFM-905 as well. My friend have contact that carry this brand. I will talk to him tomorrow & share it here if the price & service are right.  smile.gif
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I am going to grab my DCMoto GFM-905 too brows.gif
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Is it? My bro bought OAE autogate from them. He said ok & recommended me also. By the way, I'm looking for this DCMoto GFM-905 as well. My friend have contact that carry this brand. I will talk to him tomorrow & share it here if the price & service are right.  smile.gif
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maybe when the sales person talk to me in bad mood... wink.gif anyway thats already turn me off....so another supplier
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QUOTE(tecksoon @ Feb 20 2012, 10:42 PM)
maybe when the sales person talk to me in bad mood...  wink.gif anyway thats already turn me off....so another supplier
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Maybe the Sales Man is father of the KFC staff.
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Tired for survey.....just need any recommend from sifu here.......by the way autogate malaysia sales person damn lansi....sorry to say they miss one genuine buyer....sigh
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someone mentioned in previous post that he got 1.3k for supply & install. You could try reading up the previous post.
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someone mentioned in previous post that he got 1.3k for supply & install. You could try reading up the previous post.
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I just got quote on DCMoto 905 with Siren Horn for 1.4k inclusive installation. Seem to nice price here. I guess it may be better than D'Nor autogate system quoted by my contractor since they are same price. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 21 2012, 08:50 AM)
I just got quote on DCMoto 905 with Siren Horn for 1.4k inclusive installation. Seem to nice price here. I guess it may be better than D'Nor autogate system quoted by my contractor since they are same price.  tongue.gif
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eh bro where is your location? my installer also saying the same thing, DCMoto better than D'Nor LoL
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eh bro where is your location? my installer also saying the same thing, DCMoto better than D'Nor LoL
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My contractor dunno anything. tongue.gif Just myself to study on the DCMoto functions compared with D'Nor. At least, I like the keypad much better than the rest with 2 buttons switch. BTW, I'm staying in Klang. The installer is from Seremban/Melaka area but he said can install here.

I think someone also mention his contact here. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 21 2012, 09:27 AM)
My contractor dunno anything. tongue.gif Just myself to study on the DCMoto functions compared with D'Nor. At least, I like the keypad much better than the rest with 2 buttons switch. BTW, I'm staying in Klang. The installer is from Seremban/Melaka area but he said can install here.

I think someone also mention his contact here.  biggrin.gif
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icic, I am from melaka one biggrin.gif my installer recommend these 2 brands to me and told me DCMoto is more reliable than the D'Nor, duno how true is that smile.gif I also go for DCMoto, the keypad really looks cool, u control ur pillar light with the keypad?
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QUOTE(leeyung @ Feb 21 2012, 09:33 AM)
icic, I am from melaka one biggrin.gif my installer recommend these 2 brands to me and told me DCMoto is more reliable than the D'Nor, duno how true is that smile.gif I also go for DCMoto, the keypad really looks cool, u control ur pillar light with the keypad?
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Yup. I will installed 12 lines armored cable for autogate, door bell & pillar light. So ready to hold up everything. In term of brand, I think DCMoto is much easy to get spare part compared with D'Nor. Still, I never heard of D'Nor besides DCMoto & OAE. Not until my contractor show me the brochure even he said D'Nor is using Italy Technology. You can get the same OEM in the brand of Rienzo as well. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 21 2012, 09:44 AM)
Yup. I will installed 12 lines armored cable for autogate, door bell & pillar light. So ready to hold up everything. In term of brand, I think DCMoto is much easy to get spare part compared with D'Nor. Still, I never heard of D'Nor besides DCMoto & OAE. Not until my contractor show me the brochure even he said D'Nor is using Italy Technology. You can get the same OEM in the brand of Rienzo as well.  tongue.gif
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Yupe bro, the D'Nor brochure looks not convincing as well, the DCMoto one informative enough biggrin.gif, I am using 12 cores armored cable too biggrin.gif but without the doorbell brows.gif show us some photo after u install bro biggrin.gif, are u going to get the IR Beam sensor?
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All so call Italy technology is copy.
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Yupe bro, the D'Nor brochure looks not convincing as well, the DCMoto one informative enough biggrin.gif, I am using 12 cores armored cable too biggrin.gif but without the doorbell brows.gif show us some photo after u install bro biggrin.gif, are u going to get the IR Beam sensor?
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Photobeam? RM180. Hmm... Look like High Tech but I doubt the usability. If Robber came in after your car then cannot stop liao... tongue.gif Anyway, I doubt the RM180 is with installation as well since it required Hacking works on the pillar as well.
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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 21 2012, 09:44 AM)
Yup. I will installed 12 lines armored cable for autogate, door bell & pillar light. So ready to hold up everything. In term of brand, I think DCMoto is much easy to get spare part compared with D'Nor. Still, I never heard of D'Nor besides DCMoto & OAE. Not until my contractor show me the brochure even he said D'Nor is using Italy Technology. You can get the same OEM in the brand of Rienzo as well.  tongue.gif
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Bro mhhee, mind to share the contacts for this autogate system. I'm planning to install as well.
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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 21 2012, 09:57 AM)
Photobeam? RM180. Hmm... Look like High Tech but I doubt the usability. If Robber came in after your car then cannot stop liao...  tongue.gif  Anyway, I doubt the RM180 is with installation as well since it required Hacking works on the pillar as well.
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I quote my installer later and let u know the price, just a normal IR beam, i think should come with installation, else too overpriced
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My contractor dunno anything. tongue.gif Just myself to study on the DCMoto functions compared with D'Nor. At least, I like the keypad much better than the rest with 2 buttons switch. BTW, I'm staying in Klang. The installer is from Seremban/Melaka area but he said can install here.

I think someone also mention his contact here.  biggrin.gif
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Just something that you may want to take into consideration..
You are staying in Klang while the installer is far away...
After sales service... how?
Response time and charges per trip.... hmm.gif
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Just something that you may want to take into consideration..
You are staying in Klang while the installer is far away...
After sales service... how?
Response time and charges per trip....  hmm.gif
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No worry. I have many installers know DCMoto autogate. Just this one give me better price... tongue.gif As least it's still under warranty, I don't think the installer will charge me on this. Right?

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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 21 2012, 11:15 AM)
No worry. I have many installers know DCMoto autogate. Just this one give me better price...  tongue.gif  As least it's still under warranty, I don't think the installer will charge me on this. Right?
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I think you are considering the same supplier as I am loking at from Melaka. I also worry about the after sales service. From what they told me they will give 3 free after sales service in the 1st year but after that i dont know lor.
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I think you are considering the same supplier as I am loking at from Melaka. I also worry about the after sales service. From what they told me they will give 3 free after sales service in the 1st year but after that i dont know lor.
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Yup. I think we have the same supplier, but I still haven't decide not until I meet up with my friend who is carry this model as well. In fact, Autogate system less issue one at least my current house OAE Arm Type served me for more than 6 years without any issue. I just just change the battery & remote panel board before.
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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 21 2012, 11:21 AM)
Yup. I think we have the same supplier, but I still haven't decide not until I meet up with my friend who is carry this model as well. In fact, Autogate system less issue one at least my current house OAE Arm Type served me for more than 6 years without any issue. I just just change the battery & remote panel board before.
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Can i ask why arent you continue with OEM? Please let me what your friend has to offer for DC Moto once you have met him pls. TQ
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If any of you looking for DIY the controller, here I found one spare parts dealer.

http://www.securelink.com.my/spare-parts/

Hehe.. maybe can DIY also.
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Can i ask why arent you continue with OEM? Please let me what your friend has to offer for  DC Moto once you have met him pls. TQ
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If any of you looking for DIY the controller, here I found one spare parts dealer.

http://www.securelink.com.my/spare-parts/

Hehe.. maybe can DIY also.
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Funny, they sell DCMoto spare parts but didn't sell DCMoto autogate system. However, most of them sell very high price compared you get it from Lelong or sellers here. Last time I got mine 3 remote controls with receiver only RM100 but my installer quote me RM60 for 1 remote control only.

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No problem. Will meet up with him tonite & get back to you tomolo.  smile.gif  Why not continue with OAE autogate?  I think DCMoto is more canggih & better look tongue.gif
Funny, they sell DCMoto spare parts but didn't sell DCMoto autogate system. However, most of them sell very high price compared you get it from Lelong or sellers here. Last time I got mine 3 remote controls with receiver only RM100 but my installer quote me RM60 for 1 remote control only.
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Spoke with my friend just now. Got the quote for DCMoto 905 with alarm. Nice price I would say.

But he recommended me Casa Asia S-320H comes with 2 years warranty. Different by RM150 only. Somemore said DCMoto copy theirs. Dunno true or not?
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I just got quote on DCMoto 905 with Siren Horn for 1.4k inclusive installation. Seem to nice price here. I guess it may be better than D'Nor autogate system quoted by my contractor since they are same price.  tongue.gif
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I heard that there was a basic DC moto (without all the extra bells and whistle) without keypad and non antispy 2 button remote.
Was quoted RM 1300.00
The prices I see here are very good for DC moto.
Make sure they give you the premium model and not the basic model
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Spoke with my friend just now. Got the quote for DCMoto 905 with alarm. Nice price I would say.

But he recommended me Casa Asia S-320H comes with 2 years warranty. Different by RM150 only. Somemore said DCMoto copy theirs. Dunno true or not?
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Both DCMOTO & Casa Asia are made in Penang. Casa is an offshoot of DCMoto. CASA claims that they're improved on the DCMoto design. If you listen to both motors in operation you'll find that the CASA system is quieter.

These above ground rotating arm systems are definitely an improvement over the underground systems as they are not prone to flooding. However they have a more complicated gear system compare to telescopic armgate systems.

Make sure that you install a gate with a rolling/hopping code system for the remote.
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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 21 2012, 08:42 PM)
Spoke with my friend just now. Got the quote for DCMoto 905 with alarm. Nice price I would say.

But he recommended me Casa Asia S-320H comes with 2 years warranty. Different by RM150 only. Somemore said DCMoto copy theirs. Dunno true or not?
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What is the price you got and is it premium model with anti spy and sensor? Thinking of getting one.
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Wow.. you all sounding like the auto gate and the jack is very cheap.. I'm doing an auto gate + jack about 5k++, is it expensive? Jack master brand...
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QUOTE(weitatt @ Feb 21 2012, 09:11 PM)
Both DCMOTO & Casa Asia are made in Penang. Casa is an offshoot of DCMoto.  CASA claims that they're improved on the DCMoto design.   If you listen to both motors in operation you'll find that the CASA system is quieter.

These above ground rotating arm systems are definitely an improvement over the underground systems as they are not prone to flooding.  However they have a more complicated gear system compare to telescopic armgate systems.

Make sure that you install a gate with a rolling/hopping code system for the remote.
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i agree with u as DC moto is quiet loud compare to CASA....but what to do ...i like DC more tongue.gif


Added on February 22, 2012, 12:41 amMake sure that you install a gate with a rolling/hopping code system for the remote.


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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 21 2012, 08:42 PM)
Spoke with my friend just now. Got the quote for DCMoto 905 with alarm. Nice price I would say.

But he recommended me Casa Asia S-320H comes with 2 years warranty. Different by RM150 only. Somemore said DCMoto copy theirs. Dunno true or not?
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Mind to share how "nice" is the nice price bro?
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Mind to share how "nice" is the nice price bro?
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You got PMed. I don't know whether I should reveal the price here since some of you may not believe on what I said... I got this price because of my friend. Honestly, I do believe that their margin is high. Only installation fees is fixed.

This is the package that I got for DCMoto from Smarthome Technology that I mentioned before (Around RM1.4k)

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DC Moto 905 Swing/Folding Type AutoGate
**Suitable for Both Swing & Folding Gate System

Package Content:
DC MOTO 905 Swing Type DC Motor x2
DC Controller Board with PVC Box
Transformer & Backup Battery
Multifunctional Keypad x 1
Drivind Bar, Bracket & Boils
Antispy Remote Control x 3
Standard Installation (without Wiring)

Function:
1)Open Left / Right / Both Gate
2)ON / OFF Pillar Light with Multifunctional Keypad (depend on exiting wiring)
3)Panic Siren (Alarm) function
4)Auto recharge backup Battery
5)Auto reverse function (Open) the door when detect object (Must install Photo
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Price: RM 1350

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Safety Photo Beam Sensor -RM180
Siren Horn with 12V Delay - RM45
Additional Antispy Remote Control -RM60
I may sourcing the CCTV package & install it by myself since the installation fees is rocket high by CCTV installer. Believe it or not, the CCTV products margin is high on par with alarm system. I will install Alarm system myself if I know how to configure the panel. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 22 2012, 08:12 AM)
You got PMed. I don't know whether I should reveal the price here since some of you may not believe on what I said... I got this price because of my friend. Honestly, I do believe that their margin is high. Only installation fees is fixed.

This is the package that I got for DCMoto from Smarthome Technology that I mentioned before (Around RM1.4k)
I may sourcing the CCTV package & install it by myself since the installation fees is rocket high by CCTV installer. Believe it or not, the CCTV products margin is high on par with alarm system. I will install Alarm system myself if I know how to configure the panel.  tongue.gif
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I find Pasar Rd. a good place to source for CCTV components. If you're doing the installation yourself make sure you get good quality cables and connectors. Try to get a single dedicated power supply to provide DC to all your cameras and avoid the individual plug-in power supplies which tends to be unreliable.
Yes, you can save a lot if you do the installation yourself or at least engage an electrician to run the cabling for you instead of using a CCTV installer.


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Safety Photo Beam Sensor -RM180
Siren Horn with 12V Delay - RM45
Additional Antispy Remote Control -RM60
Out of these options the only useful one is the Remote.
The Safety beam sensor always gets confused during heavy rain
The siren horn I really don't see the point.

One useful feature that some remotes have is a main-switch bypass. I.e. if you're going out and you don't want to allow your maid to open the door from within the house, you can activate the main-switch by-pass via the remote.

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Any vendor around kajang area who carry DCMoto or Mag arm type autogate?


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Out of these options the only useful one is the Remote.
The Safety beam sensor always gets confused during heavy rain
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Your own experience towards the sensor?

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QUOTE(weitatt @ Feb 22 2012, 08:33 AM)
I find Pasar Rd. a good place to source for CCTV components.  If you're doing the installation yourself make sure you get good quality cables and connectors. Try to get a single dedicated power supply to provide DC to all your cameras and avoid the individual plug-in power supplies which tends to be unreliable.
Yes, you can save a lot if you do the installation yourself or at least engage an electrician to run the cabling for you instead of using a CCTV installer.


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Out of these options the only useful one is the Remote.
The Safety beam sensor always gets confused during heavy rain
The siren horn I really don't see the point.

One useful feature that some remotes have is a main-switch bypass. I.e. if you're going out and you don't want to allow your maid to open the door from within the house, you can activate the main-switch by-pass via the remote.
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Yup. My contractor charges me RM50 per point CCTV/Network for the conceal piping & I provided him the RG59 cable (with Power Supply) & RJ45 network cable. Save quite alot I would say because outsider may charges you more than RM150 per point.

For the sensor part, it's true also. But I'm not sure whether it has temperature sensor as well for human being? Moreover, maintenance cost may be high as well. tongue.gif

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Yup. My contractor charges me RM50 per point CCTV/Network for the conceal piping & I provided him the RG59 cable (with Power Supply) & RJ45 network cable. Save quite alot I would say because outsider may charges you more than RM150 per point.

For the sensor part, it's true also. But I'm not sure whether it has temperature sensor as well for human being? Moreover, maintenance cost may be high as well.  tongue.gif
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the sensor just an infrared beam sensor with operating range of 10m, up to my knowledge, infrared beam is not triggered by rain
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the sensor just an infrared beam sensor with operating range of 10m, up to my knowledge, infrared beam is not triggered by rain
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Not sure if the sensor has improved, mine was over 2 years ago and my gate would occasionally get stuck during very heavy rain. I got feed-up and disabled the damn sensor. Anyway, as long as your gate's over-current cut-off is correctly calibrated your gate should stop whenever it hits an obstacle.
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Not sure if the sensor has improved, mine was over 2 years ago and my gate would occasionally get stuck during very heavy rain.  I got feed-up and disabled the damn sensor. Anyway, as long as your gate's over-current cut-off is correctly calibrated your gate should stop whenever it hits an obstacle.
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icic, so you are using the DCMoto sensor for 2 years and facing that issue rite? For the over-current cuf-off, is still have some issue of momentum when the motor is stopped, I saw my neighbour one, he is installing the DC Moto 905, when it was fully open, and stop at the max point, although the motors are stopped, however the swing gate still have some momentum and hit the pillar, therefore need to install stopper near the pillar to avoid cracking in long run
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icic, so you are using the DCMoto sensor for 2 years and facing that issue rite? For the over-current cuf-off, is still have some issue of momentum when the motor is stopped, I saw my neighbour one, he is installing the DC Moto 905, when it was fully open, and stop at the max point, although the motors are stopped, however the swing gate still have some momentum and hit the pillar, therefore need to install stopper near the pillar to avoid cracking in long run
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My gate is not DCMoto, however I suspect these sensors are all the same generic sensors. In your neighbor's case, they should adjust the hi/low speed timing so that the gate slows down before I approaches the pillar.

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My gate is not DCMoto, however I suspect these sensors are all the same generic sensors. In your neighbor's case, they should adjust the hi/low speed timing so that the gate slows down before I approaches the pillar.
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ic, I saw the gate is pretty low speed d as it take 12 sec instead of max 8 sec to close the gate, but problem still remain the same
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ic, I saw the gate is pretty low speed d as it take 12 sec instead of max 8 sec to close the gate, but problem still remain the same
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If set correctly, the gate should slow down an lose momentum before it slams into the stopper. Nevertheless the stopper will need changing every 3-4 years as it's only made of rubber and will become brittle from our weather. It's not a very expensive item.
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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 21 2012, 08:42 PM)
Spoke with my friend just now. Got the quote for DCMoto 905 with alarm. Nice price I would say.

But he recommended me Casa Asia S-320H comes with 2 years warranty. Different by RM150 only. Somemore said DCMoto copy theirs. Dunno true or not?
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Bro, mind sharing the nice price for Casa Asia as well? Where is ya friend located and did he mentioned what after sales he gives?
Anyway, apart from being a little silent than DCMOTO, what other features does it have, eg. anti-spy remote, etc?
Have you decide yet which brand and model you get?


Added on February 23, 2012, 12:41 pmAnyone here uses or used Casa Asia S-320H autogate? Pls share ya experience. Tq.

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Bro, mind sharing the nice price for Casa Asia as well? Where is ya friend located and did he mentioned what after sales he gives?
Anyway, apart from being a little silent than DCMOTO, what other features does it have, eg. anti-spy remote, etc?
Have you decide yet which brand and model you get?


Added on February 23, 2012, 12:41 pmAnyone here uses or used Casa Asia S-320H autogate? Pls share ya experience. Tq.
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RM150 different than DCMoto, you do the math. tongue.gif In fact, this is my friend contact, mean I haven't meet him in person. Moreover, my house is just started renovation. So, have to wait at least 3 months from now then I can install the autogate system.

Which one I choose? DCMoto 1 year warranty but Casa Asia 2 years warranty. Plus silent motor. What do you think with RM150 different? About the Anti-Spy remote... I see the Casa Asia remote control is same like DCMoto but this didn't mentioned in Casa Asia website. So I can't confirm, may be people who install this can share info to us? smile.gif

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QUOTE(mhhee @ Feb 23 2012, 02:26 PM)
RM150 different than DCMoto, you do the math.  tongue.gif In fact, this is my friend contact, mean I haven't meet him in person. Moreover, my house is just started renovation. So, have to wait at least 3 months from now then I can install the autogate system.

Which one I choose? DCMoto 1 year warranty but Casa Asia 2 years warranty. Plus silent motor.  What do you think with RM150 different? About the Anti-Spy remote... I see the Casa Asia remote control is same like DCMoto but this didn't mentioned in Casa Asia website. So I can't confirm, may be people who install this can share info to us?  smile.gif
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Thanks for ya reply.
Yup, i didnt see it in Casa website as well about any anti-spy remote but the rest looks the same as DCMOTO. But the 2 year warranty is value for money for me. Did ya friend say what does the warranty cover?
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Thanks for ya reply.
Yup, i didnt see it in Casa website as well about any anti-spy remote but the rest looks the same as DCMOTO. But the 2 year warranty is value for money for me. Did ya friend say what does the warranty cover?
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Didn't ask in details about warranty, but I think normally Auotgate system is covering the Motor System only with motherboard only. Correct me if I'm wrong. tongue.gif
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Lighting will not be cover for any warranty unless stated. This is common. Also got human error it will not be cover. Like bang and push open the gate and broke the arms or gear box all this will not be cover.
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Lighting will not be cover for any warranty unless stated. This is common. Also got human error it will not be cover. Like bang and push open the gate and broke the arms or gear box all this will not be cover.
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Yup. Forget about Lightning Strike also.

But here warranty is covered even Lightning Strike.

GASS Autogate
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Yup. Forget about Lightning Strike also.

But here warranty is covered even Lightning Strike.

GASS Autogate
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Does anyone know on which company that does the gate and auto gate system apart from Unigate ?
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Yup. Forget about Lightning Strike also.

But here warranty is covered even Lightning Strike.

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Lightning strike usually prone to installations where there's a relay to light up a light at the side pillar. When lightning strikes it usually fries the main circuit board.

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Does anyone know on which company that does the gate and auto gate system apart from Unigate ?
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You can try Magtenic company. Last time I saw their advertisement in Chinese newspaper classified section. Stainless steel gate 12 feet with OAE autogate with installation less than 4k I think.

My current house gate & autogate also get from them but that time is in charge by my brother. Contact no. is 012-3451674. Hope this help. smile.gif
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mhhee, may i know where is ur grill & gate contractor from? my new hse at puchong. can u pm me ur contractor num?

i'm fresh with grills & gate knowledge, any sifu here can teach me more about?
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Got a quote from Santronec Automation Supply for CASA-ASIA...RM2220!!! Said they make CASA themselves 's n based in Tropicana. Apparently the price is steep coz its 3 yrs warranty on motor n lifetime for lightning strike. Ashed why some others advert less, he said maybe warranty period in less than 3 yrs etc. What I like is that he will only come over to check the gate first to see if it was installed propoery then only confirm the autogate. said many gates are mainly the folding gate are not installed propoerly n can cause damage.
Anyone in the forum has engaged Santronic before? Pls share
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post Feb 27 2012, 01:22 PM

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why not include your house insurance to cover autogate for Lightning strike?
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post Feb 27 2012, 01:30 PM

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It is interesting to know of any supplier that is willing (and keep their promise) to cover their equipment against lightning strike. smile.gif
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post Feb 27 2012, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(scouser7 @ Feb 27 2012, 12:31 PM)
Got a quote from Santronec Automation Supply for CASA-ASIA...RM2220!!! Said they make CASA themselves 's n based in Tropicana. Apparently the price is steep coz its 3 yrs warranty on motor n lifetime for lightning strike. Ashed why some others advert less, he said maybe warranty period in less than 3 yrs etc. What I like is that he will only come over to check the gate first to see if it was installed propoery then only confirm the autogate. said many gates are mainly the folding gate are not installed propoerly n can cause damage.
Anyone in the forum has engaged Santronic before? Pls share
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CASA is definitely made in Penang. Not KL.
Whether they will honor 3 years warranty on lightning strike you have to make reference checks with their customers.
I think most installers now will offer 3 years warranty for a slight premium which would be still less than RM2,200. If your area is not prone to lightning strike (e.g. no on hilltop, no an isolate tall structure, not have prominent lights above pillars etc) the probability of a lightning strike is very remote. My parents place has been using autogates for the past 20 years and we've never had a single failure due to lightning strike
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QUOTE(weitatt @ Feb 27 2012, 01:46 PM)
CASA is definitely made in Penang. Not KL.
Whether they will honor 3 years warranty on lightning strike you have to make reference checks with their customers.
I think most installers now will offer 3 years warranty for a slight premium which would be still less than RM2,200.  If your area is not prone to lightning strike (e.g. no on hilltop, no an isolate tall structure, not have prominent lights above pillars etc) the probability of a lightning strike is very remote.  My parents place has been using autogates for the past 20 years and we've never had a single failure due to lightning strike
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It depends on luck whether the lightning strike on your autogate or alarm. But honestly saying, I seldom heard people that their system strike by lightning... Even from some autogate & alarm system installer. But CCTV alots lar. Coz my company one always kena... Especially raining season tongue.gif
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QUOTE(weitatt @ Feb 27 2012, 01:46 PM)
CASA is definitely made in Penang. Not KL.
Whether they will honor 3 years warranty on lightning strike you have to make reference checks with their customers.
I think most installers now will offer 3 years warranty for a slight premium which would be still less than RM2,200.  If your area is not prone to lightning strike (e.g. no on hilltop, no an isolate tall structure, not have prominent lights above pillars etc) the probability of a lightning strike is very remote.  My parents place has been using autogates for the past 20 years and we've never had a single failure due to lightning strike
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yup, its made in penang but the company is here in kl. He also mentioned that CASA n DCMOTO is same-same but different. Anyway, the 3 yrs warranty is only for motor n lightning strike is lifetime. But, every1 is rite, i also never heard of autogate damage by lightning.
On warranty, he mentioned that if the compnay carries spare parts and wld be able to repair on the spot but DCMOTO if damage the whole motor would be shipped to penang for repairs...which means ya hse wld not autogate for 1-3 weeks. DCMOTO users, is this true?
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QUOTE(scouser7 @ Feb 27 2012, 06:49 PM)
yup, its made in penang but the company is here in kl. He also mentioned that CASA n DCMOTO is same-same but different. Anyway, the 3 yrs warranty is only for motor n lightning strike is lifetime. But, every1 is rite, i also never heard of autogate damage by lightning.
On warranty, he mentioned that if the compnay carries spare parts and wld be able to repair on the spot but DCMOTO if damage the whole motor would be shipped to penang for repairs...which means ya hse wld not autogate for 1-3 weeks. DCMOTO users, is this true?
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my neighbour install dc motor and i install casa.though the speed is same but casa is more steady looking
his price around 1500 and mine around 1900(casa 320)
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QUOTE(noien @ Feb 27 2012, 07:06 PM)
my neighbour install dc motor and i install casa.though the speed is same but casa is more steady looking
his price around 1500 and  mine around 1900(casa 320)
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Thanks for ya response. Can i know where you got CASA from and did u compare with DCMOTO before buying? For that price, how long is the warranty? Hope you can share the sellers contact if from Klang valley. Tq
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QUOTE(scouser7 @ Feb 27 2012, 07:54 PM)
Thanks for ya response. Can i know where you got CASA from and did u compare with DCMOTO before buying? For that price, how long is the warranty? Hope you can share the sellers contact if from Klang valley. Tq
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i got my casa for the electrician in penang.he said he install casa and dc moto but dc moto for warranty is slower than casa.mine only 1 years warranty.my neighbour install a dc moto so i compare casa spec and his dc moto spec.and at last, i pick dc motor
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QUOTE(noien @ Feb 27 2012, 08:15 PM)
i got my casa for the electrician in penang.he said he install casa and dc moto but dc moto for warranty is slower than casa.mine only 1 years warranty.my neighbour install a dc moto so i compare casa spec and his dc moto spec.and at last, i pick dc motor
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sorry, but you chose Casa or DCmoto?


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