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post Jun 21 2010, 09:04 AM

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what is the maintenance needed for autogate?
do we need to lube it every once in a while? etc?
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post Aug 17 2011, 05:14 PM

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gfm-905 premium, I got my quotation for a full set (including photobeam, multifunction keypad, antispy transmitter, etc) + installation for RM2500. and this quotation was obtained 2 years ago (I still keep the quotation till now).

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post Nov 30 2011, 06:55 PM

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if you think your autoagate is slow, you can open the controller box. There'll be a knob in there to adjust the timing to your preference..
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post Dec 7 2011, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(netcrawler @ Dec 6 2011, 09:16 PM)
Thanks. What is the advantage of the armored cable? Can use exiting gate light cable for autogate since i don't really need
the light.
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armored cable is needed to withstand the outside weather and temperature. without armored cable, your wire will become brittle over the time..
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post Sep 27 2013, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(aquaria87 @ Sep 24 2013, 11:01 AM)
All cable should be water proof rite as all hv the insulated layer. humm... when i google, the advantage only abt losses which i think not significant for domestic use i.e. autogate, doorbell, lamp post...

The question why need to use armored cable still in my mind n yet to decide which to use...
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armoured cable is not about lossless signal transmission at all.. It is meant to withstand outside weather and harsh condition like rain, hot noon temperature, cold night temperature, etc. For a normal cable, if it used outside the house, in long term, the cable condition (its insulation and its copper wire) will quickly deteriorate, become brittle, etc. It can lead short circuit, damaging the autogate, or even a fire..

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post Aug 6 2018, 05:45 PM

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hi.. is it possible to change autogate arms to different brand, but use the same existing box controller?

In my case, the gear inside one of the arm is spoiled already. Unfortunately, it is an old model. Cannot get spare part anymore.. I wonder whether I have to replace whole set (arm + box controller), or can I just replaced the arm with any model?
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post Aug 16 2018, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Galaxy Angel @ Aug 10 2018, 02:08 AM)
Is the rienzo brand realizable? What should be the estimate price?
key release package is that means when power failure, can use key to release the gate and move the gate?
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i have a bad experience with its after-sale service. Probably because in klang valley, only 1 guy handle everything, so he cannot layan me.. I tried to google for another installer, all result keep referring to the same person.. sad.gif
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post Sep 28 2018, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(hmchoo @ Sep 27 2018, 04:08 PM)
I was introduced to a autogate system with the brand Energy which costs about RM1500. What they offer :
- Anti lightning (build in)
- Saving energy (green product)
- 3 years warranty on Motor (less maintenance)
- Fully metal Gear & Stainless Steel Arm (last longer and powerful)
- ISO 9001 Certification (since 2007)Any comment about this brand?

I was told that there is no key for this system but the battery is very reliable. The battery can usually last 4 years. Replacement of battery cost about RM200+ (so expensive!).

Can i  have some feedback about this system from the experts here? Thanking in advance
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When it says no key, it means, using an allen key, to unscrew and unhook the autogate arm, just like my autogate. When there's no electricty, it use backup battery. So, no need for the key/allen key. If the battery dies, I park my car outside, use a small door within the gate to enter the house, get the allen key to unhook the autogate arm, open the gate, bring my car into the porch.
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post Oct 29 2018, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(Johannas @ Oct 29 2018, 07:33 AM)
Is it worth it to get the system with key release compared to without key release? My gate has no small side gate.
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my push pull auto gate also has no release key. It uses allen key. After 8 years of using this autogate, only 2 or 3 times I had to use the allen key. It's mainly because of no electricity and dead battery at the same time (I didnt replace the backup battery) ...

So, to think as if using allen key is inconvenience, I'd say TNB electricity is already reliable enough that you probably may not need to use it at all. But, as dblcss had mentioned, autogate with release key definitely much better ...

On the other hand, since you dont have a small door, if there's no electricity and backup battery is not working, the only way to release the allen key is for you to jump into your porch and unscrew the allen key from inside. If it is using a release key, you probably dont need to jump over you fence (depending on your gate design whether your hand can pass through or not)..

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post Dec 5 2018, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(merci @ Nov 24 2018, 03:13 PM)
Hello sifus,

I've problem with installing new gate.

My problem:

At the moment, I'm using autogate with iron gate material.
2 months ago I went to the home expo and like the design of the aluminium gate so i booked the aluminium gate.

Today, the contractor came to install it but the problem is:
The contractor said that he cannot dismantle the wiring, he only know to install gate only and aluminium cannot be soldered.

So I called a few autogate contractors and they said they cannot solder the old arm (iron metal) to aluminium as also said by the contractor. My old contractor that installed my autogate also said that why I bought aluminium material ? He said that I should buy stainless steel material. He also said that autogate never use aluminium material. But I don't believe him because I saw a lot of aluminium autogate sold.

I called back the contractor that I bought the gate and he said - yes, aluminium gate cannot use auto and he suggest to go manual.

I argued with him that  earlier before buying the aluminium gate : he already assured me that it can be connected to the old system and he also had come to my house to measure. But he said no and no.

So can dear sifus:
Can uoll help me? I don't want to go manual.I guess there should be a way to solder the old arm to the new aluminium gate.
Do you know any autogate contractor that can do the connection?
I don't want to buy a new system because my existing system is working fine.

I really appreciate sifus ideas and help. Thank you
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-what about using a screw hole + long bolt and nuts?
-another solution i can think of is, make a steel bracket that will clam the bottom part of your gate..
something like this, but you customized it specifically for your gate..
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post Feb 19 2019, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(youliang @ Feb 17 2019, 10:11 PM)
I just did my autogate install for the dnor 212 and it was using the s3 board like this..

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Is there a way for me to limit the max opening size of the gate? Now when my gate fully opens, the gate will knock a little on the pillar which I think it will cause some damage in the long run.

I do remember seeing some auto gates that can be "trained" so that it does not open all the way, but only till a certain distance needed..
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on other autogate board, there's a knob that controls the timing duration. In the example picture below, the knob is labelled as "total time". You can control the gate to stop at any position by control the adjusting the total time /timing duration. That is how I did my diy such that the gate wont hit a pillar. The gate will stop like 1 cm before hitting a pillar or stopper..

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However, your board doesnt have this feature. So, maybe it cannot be controlled with that board.

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post Mar 3 2019, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(maiself @ Feb 26 2019, 05:16 PM)
My gate (Delux - Airgate) start producing squeaking sound after 1.5 yrs - will WD40 is enough to eliminate the squeaking? Or got better lube to use? Mine is Folding with arm-type system.

The Unigate people wanna charge RM150/service. If I can DIY, I wanna try 1st hehe  brows.gif

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Just pay them once, and watch careful how they do it. After that, you can do it yourself in the future. Just treat 150 as a cost for your lesson.
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post May 15 2019, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ May 14 2019, 09:27 PM)
Your OAE333A how old dy...?

I might be getting this model for my upcoming gate... I was told this one is heavy duty type but I'm not sure... unsure.gif
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When I bought my autogate, I also though the same thing.. Yeayy, it is a heavy duty autogate. But then, when I browse the website, all the products are called heavy duty autogate, from the cheapest to the most expensive type.. The difference between them is just how many kg they can handle. I guess, it just a marketing term to attracts buyer (for any brands).
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post Jun 2 2019, 03:38 AM

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QUOTE(tikay @ Jun 1 2019, 05:17 PM)
Can someone help explain these functions: Open Hi speed, Close Hi speed, M2 Delay, Total time  AND on the lower left : M1 L H; M2 L H?
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gate initially open/close at high speed, then it slows down before it stops/reach maximum opening.
open hi-speed - duration for the gate to open at high speed. Once the duration ends, the gate will slow down.
close hi-seed - same as above, except this is while the gate is closing
total time = (time of open hi speed + time of open low speed). Once it reaches this time, the autogate will automatically stops eventhough the gate havent touch the stopper. use this to control how wide you want the gate to open without touching the stopper/pillar.
m2 delay - arm no 2 can be delayed, relative to arm no 1. it can opened/close first before the second arm starts opens/close.
m1 l h - the strengh of the gate's force when it hits a barrier before it stops.
m2 l h - same as above. this is for the second arm

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post Nov 25 2019, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(simtien @ Nov 25 2019, 03:15 PM)
Hi there. I'm facing the same problem now. My remote control have to be very near to the receiver box, only able to detect. Just slightly outside the gate, unable to detect. Changed to new batteries still the same. Is it because of the receiver rosak? Appreciate someone can advise. Thanks.
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inside the controller box, there's a long wire that acts as antenna for the controller. You can try to reroute or reposition the wire.. Who knows it might help..
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post Nov 26 2019, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Peppa_Pig @ Nov 26 2019, 04:10 PM)
Oh okay that’s long. Cuz the technician told me not to open half way cuz it might spoil the motor. I’m not sure which is true.
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I assume, when the motor stops half way, the sudden stop may give some stress to the gear. However, if you think about it, the motor will still experience the same stress when it stops after the gate fully opens or when it hits a barrier or stopper. So, in other words, I believe stopping the gate half way makes no difference to the life of the motor or gear system.
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post Jan 6 2020, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(wailing81 @ Jan 2 2020, 08:51 AM)
Thanks.

It's more for securing the car from theft, as the auto gate arm can be easily pull open by force.
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There was a cctv footage, happened in malaysia.. The thief managed to force open the gate until around 1 feet opening. The thief tried to sneak out a motorcycle but the gate opening is not wide enough. The motor stucked between the gates opening. The thief tried even harder after he noticed the owner has seen him and is about to chase him but the gate's opening was not getting any bigger. The motor still stucked. Finally, the thief fled. The video was viral a few years back.

In my opinion, the autogate can be forced open but once the motor jammed, it cannot be forced to open any further. Yeah, i know, we dont want that to happen - we dont want to damage our autogate..
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post May 11 2020, 05:14 AM

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QUOTE(shetty @ May 4 2020, 11:52 AM)
Hi, anyone has any advice for this damage. My gate was stucked and thus when I open my autogate, it broke due to rusty gate. Anything that I can DIY, trying to save money.

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I used to have this problem twice and worse than yours because the rusty part was on the hinge, causing my gate to fall off a bit. What the welders did was put a metal bar and welded it across the rusty part (metal bars must be much longer that the rust area of course), then, welded the hinge on the metal bars.

The first time, i was charge rm80. The second time it happened (on different hinge, and using different contractor), it was more expensive, rm100 ++ ..

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post Sep 23 2020, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(wenloong78 @ Sep 22 2020, 11:15 PM)
Hi all, would like to get some advice from sifu here


3. what are the advantages and disadvantages of using trackless system?


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3. When cleaning your porch, with tracked system, you cannot sweep the sand and dust to the outside road. You need to scoop it out.
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post Oct 30 2021, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(flowerhorn08 @ Oct 27 2021, 08:51 AM)
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My Herostar autogate uses Radion board. There are 4 adjust timer trimmer.

1.  Gate with LOCK (CLOSE DELAY) : Adjust speed for gate with lock

2. OPEN SPEED

3. CLOSE SPEED

4. OPEN/CLOSE

Anyone know what the other trimmer adjust?

What difference OPEN SPEED, CLOSE SPEED with OPEN/CLOSE trimmer?

My gate speed closes very fast even at minimum setting.
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I dont use that brand. Anyway, for 2 & 3, normally, open speed and close speed represent the duration that it is opening or closing at high speed. Set them to low, the gate will only move (open/close) at high speed for a short period, followed by slow speed. If you set them at higher position (more rotation to right), the gate will move (open/close) at high speed for longer duration, before it goes back to low speed until stops.

If at low speed, you still feel the gate moves faster than your liking, you can make it slower by using lower transformer voltage output. Some transformers got multiple voltage output like 24V, 12V and 9V. You can easily rewiring this. Some autogate transformers only have 1 voltage output, normally at 12V. In this case, user can buy another transformers that has lower voltage and replace them DIY style. Not difficult at all.

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