Automatic Gate, How much do you need to install one ?
Automatic Gate, How much do you need to install one ?
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May 25 2011, 06:55 PM
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16 feet... wow.. Metal price is high, better guard your gate
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Jun 9 2011, 07:29 PM
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Jun 10 2011, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(lizziewong @ Jun 10 2011, 08:23 AM) I just googled it to get the pictures. But I think, the best way is to drive around the taman taman, and see which designs u like, snap a picture and ask the contractor to do it. I'll get Mild Steel with powder coat, and this will last longer. It do rust but take bit longer. I'll prefer to use mild steel as is cheaper.Mild steel gate is the cheapest, but can rust and hve to repaint to keep it good. Wrought iron gates, must have hot dipped galvanised which is a process to coat the mild steel with a rust-proof material. After hotdip galvanise the metal must be powder coated to give a nice texture and color. Stainless steel is the most expensive. But the steel can be very glaring under the hot sun. Stainless steel is generally maintenance free, but I think the looks are so so only. So far, I have not seen a nice s/s gate. |
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Jun 10 2011, 12:41 PM
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Can you galvanised the Mild Steel? Or is there a ready product "galvanised steel" that they use? what is the price?
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Jun 23 2011, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jun 23 2011, 09:30 AM) Galvanising is the process of coating a thin layer of zinc onto the mild steel members. Hot-dipped galvanising is the done by dipping the completed mild steel members (in this case, the gate) into a molten bath of zinc at very high temperature. kelvyn, what is the Chinese term for Galvanise? When i ask for quote worry they don't know this English term.As for the price, it will be slightly more than those non-galvanised. This is due to the galvanising cost and also the increase in the thickness of the members to be galvanised. There is a minimum thickness of the mild steel member for galvanising. If the member are too thin, it could warp during the hot-dip galvanising process. If you are concern with rust, then hot-dip galvanising is the way to go. My gate is galvanised. |
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Jul 5 2011, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jun 23 2011, 01:12 PM) according to google translator kelvyn, i think #2, and #3 they don't do it. Maybe i got to do it myself. The Erching primer is it clear or grey? If grey that mean I got to paint it again.镀锌 You can ask your gate fabricator.. BTW, if you are galvanising the gate, you need to apply the following surface protection system. Else, there will not be proper adhesion between the paint and the galvanised surface. After sometime the paint will start peeling off. 1. Hot dip galvanising 2. Etching primer - can get from most hardware shops 3. Finish coat - can be Micaceous Iron Oxide or the normal Nippon/ Jotun paint Many of the workshop (I meant those the make the gate & grille) does not know this. This what what I come across when I was try to do up my front gate. They just apply the normal red oxide and the finishing coat. Few months/ years later, the paint starts coming off. However, the galvanising remains if properly done. |
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Jul 5 2011, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jul 5 2011, 10:55 AM) Depend on your gate fabricator. I bought the etching primer and MIO; and pass them to my fabricator to use. He applied them using his spray equipment. The finishing is much better than painting with a brush. Ok, Than i need to talk to the grill person.The etching primer is important for galvanised surface. If you apply the normal red oxide, it will not bond properly with the galvanised surface. The primer is the first coat after the galvanised surface. Thus, it is the most important coat. If the bond is not good, after some time, the paint will start peeling off. So, whatever paint that is painted on top of the primer will be of no use. If I recall correctly, the etching primer that I used was Olive Green in colour. As for the MIO, they comes in either grey, black and another lighter colour which I cannot recall. I used MIO for its durability as well as for its texture (like the surface of fine grade sand paper) Alternatively, you could use the normal Acrylic finishing paint. |
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Jul 5 2011, 01:30 PM
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Can a normal steel gate use this primer?
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Aug 7 2011, 05:45 PM
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Kelvin, which brand of etching primer you using? I source 3 h/w shop nearby asking for etching primer they just give me a blur face!...
Need to find few tong and give it to the grill maker for my gate and expose grill. |
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Aug 7 2011, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Aug 7 2011, 05:54 PM) this is what I used Nippon Etching Primer 120 Thank you.http://www.nipponpaint.com.my/professional...=14&rangeID=114 Cost me RM90 for 5 lit tong |
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Aug 10 2011, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Aug 10 2011, 03:53 PM) does the swing arm type auto gate has a lock/pin (which is contained in a iron box) in the centre to lock the auto gate? The center lock is called solenoid. if no, isnt it possible to pull the gate open forcefully from outside since there's no lock mechanism/barrier in the centre? sorry for the basic question. still new to swing arm type system. PS: am using the ground embedded system with a central lock. For conceal autogate is much easier to pull the gate hence they install the solenoid. I spoke to an autogate installer and he told me the arm are using screw type gear to open / close the gate hence it need more force to open up the gate. The solenoid for the conceal autogate do have its disadvantage, Very easy to open too, just take metal bar lift the gate a bit, the solenoid will be unlock. Want better safety, install EM lock on the gate. Sure can't open |
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Aug 10 2011, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Aug 10 2011, 10:10 PM) ok thanks for the info. very helpful. You referring to the link below? From the brochure it have a solenoid build in, maybe act as the same function. You can call them up and check.what about the system like DCMOTO? i thought they're using gears as well to open/close the gate. is there a lock mechanism for such system? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_frjVTLO_knY/SAS-...h/auto+gate.jpg |
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Aug 16 2011, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Aug 16 2011, 11:02 PM) 903 and 905, look the same only difference is controller. Source:-http://www.lelong.com.my/dc-moto-swing-gat...1-11-Sale-P.htm |
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Aug 17 2011, 05:19 PM
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Higher end controller, cost more to dupe.
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Aug 17 2011, 08:59 PM
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Aug 21 2011, 07:22 PM
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Should be the same ask what you can get in hardware store. Ask them about stopper.
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Sep 5 2011, 11:38 AM
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The conventional method, need more expensive labor, and the center of the gate will need solenoid because the conventional method use normal gear, where the arm type uses screw thread mechanism, which require higher force to force open the gate.
Well, both still have problem to prevent people force in. |
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Sep 5 2011, 04:46 PM
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Most you see "Italy", "German", "US" Technology is all Local made, maybe copied.
Most important is it easy to find spare parts? |
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Nov 5 2011, 09:10 PM
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Many brand are just rebadge from copy of few famous model, is all made in Malaysia. That why some brand we never heard of. Most important can get spare parts.
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Nov 5 2011, 10:01 PM
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Gate done, auto gate next week.
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