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post Sep 14 2007, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(precursor80 @ Sep 14 2007, 11:50 AM)
Actually, I believe Azureus has a plugin to fake peerid.
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nope..they wont make a plugin that does that kind of thing..
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QUOTE(mdzaboy @ Sep 14 2007, 11:55 AM)
yesterday my deluge can work on vista using the compatibility mode, then suddenly after i switch on it back, vista says deluge cannot run anymore even i restart my vista.. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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You gotta wait for it to get out of alpha/beta. It's Alpha client afterall
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post Sep 14 2007, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(aMer @ Sep 14 2007, 02:22 PM)
nope..they wont make a plugin that does that kind of thing..
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I never did say Azureus make the plugin, did I? tongue.gif

Some other people created the plugin.
I am pretty sure one exists (I have seen it before) but for v2.

Added on September 14, 2007, 3:37 pmAt any rate, I do not believe faking the peer id will get you better speed. (Data doesn't seem to indicate that this is what bypassing the throttle)

In fact, it will be more likely to get you banned from private trackers.

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post Sep 14 2007, 03:52 PM

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Anyone having problems with installing of deluge on windows?
Mine just gets stuck as soon as it initiates installation. =S
I'm on windows sp2.
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QUOTE(precursor80 @ Sep 14 2007, 03:34 PM)
I never did say Azureus make the plugin, did I? tongue.gif

Some other people created the plugin.
I am pretty sure one exists (I have seen it before) but for v2.

Added on September 14, 2007, 3:37 pmAt any rate, I do not believe faking the peer id will get you better speed. (Data doesn't seem to indicate that this is what bypassing the throttle)

In fact, it will be more likely to get you banned from private trackers.
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that plugin only to spoof client id not peer id. U use that plugin on the tracker that ban azureus. that means only tracker detect u as other client, but other peer still detect u as azureus.

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post Sep 14 2007, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(prancingHORSE @ Sep 14 2007, 03:52 PM)
Anyone having problems with installing of deluge on windows?
Mine just gets stuck as soon as it initiates installation. =S
I'm on windows sp2.
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Same here. laugh.gif
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post Sep 14 2007, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Sep 14 2007, 04:17 PM)
that plugin only to spoof client id not peer id. U use that plugin on the tracker that ban azureus. that means only tracker detect u as other client, but other peer still detect u as azureus.
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I assume you are differentiating between peer id in tracker announces (client ID???) and PEX.
Is that right?

In most clients, both IDs are actually the same ID appended with random generated data.

Also, PEX is an extension to the original BT protocol so it can be disabled safely.
If it is disabled on your client, other peers would not be able to detect that you have spoofed your ID.
The downside is other benefits enabled by PEX will not be accessible to you.

Added on September 14, 2007, 6:36 pmAnyways, I believe the throttling happens before the PEX phase.
It most likely happen during the handshaking phase.

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post Sep 14 2007, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(precursor80 @ Sep 13 2007, 09:27 PM)
If I am not mistaken, changing the following should work as well.

File - common.py in the tar ball

PROGRAM_NAME = "Deluge"
PROGRAM_VERSION = "0.5.4.1"

CLIENT_CODE = "DE"

Change to

PROGRAM_NAME = "uTorrent"
PROGRAM_VERSION = "1.7.4.0"

CLIENT_CODE = "UT"
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You're absolutely right. Changing the py file is better.
Guess i didn't know they put the values there.. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(precursor80 @ Sep 14 2007, 06:34 PM)
I assume you are differentiating between peer id in tracker announces (client ID???) and PEX.
Is that right?

In most clients, both IDs are actually the same ID appended with random generated data.

Also, PEX is an extension to the original BT protocol so it can be disabled safely.
If it is disabled on your client, other peers would not be able to detect that you have spoofed your ID.
The downside is other benefits enabled by PEX will not be accessible to you.

Added on September 14, 2007, 6:36 pmAnyways, I believe the throttling happens before the PEX phase.
It most likely happen during the handshaking phase.
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well i still believe tm throttle base on peer id, since there is no better explanation than this, at least for now. Since i dont think there is any diffrent between linux client n windows client, there use same protocol anyway. Plus even deluge that port for windows also works fine. I also found another unpopular client for windows n its work just fine like no throttling happen..

unless u got better opinion on this...
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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Sep 14 2007, 06:49 PM)
well i still believe tm throttle base on peer id, since there is no better explanation than this, at least for now. Since i dont think there is any diffrent between linux client n windows client, there use same protocol anyway. Plus even deluge that port for windows also works fine. I also found another unpopular client for windows n its work just fine like no throttling happen..

unless u got better opinion on this...
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I used to believe it's the peer id since that's the only thing difference I noticed when I am aware of this client that can bypass throtthling.
If you remember my previous posts, I did raise this up previously.
Note: The peer id used in peer handshaking is the same peer id used in tracker announces. And there is also the peer id in PEX (BT extension).
peer id remains the same (except for the random data) with unencrypted handshaking but we know that is throttled in ALL clients.
Deluge is using libtorrent which are used by different clients as well though Ktorrent is not using libtorrent.
peer id would be a very stupid way to detect BT traffic since it's easier to look at the start string ("/19Bittorrent") though I admit I used to think that they are that stupid

Unfortunately, further testing (by me on utorrent and confirmed modified on Ethereal so you're free to test out yourself) seems to have throw this theory over the clift.
Note: I didn't test out Deluge since I am lazy to download all the packages required to compile Deluge.


And yes, I do have other opinions (actually more like observations) if you care to read my previous posts. tongue.gif
If you care to look into Deluge code, they seems to be following the protocol to the letter so I am at lost now. wink.gif

At least the one thing we agree on is that all clients are using the same protocol. biggrin.gif

Added on September 14, 2007, 7:35 pmAnyways, here's one of my theory that I have:

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I switched to Debian from Ubuntu and now I have problem running deluge. Installation was no problem just that when I select it, it seems to just hang and then closes.

Any ideas anyone?

PS - Linux newbie here...
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black,the vmware workstation need to pay 1?

i having hard time for ubuntu, i dont know how to use ASP.net on linux. external hdd( ntfs) cant mount on ubuntu, cant install catia on it, linux still not that user friendly even it is better than last time.
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QUOTE(kunimi @ Sep 15 2007, 11:08 AM)
black,the vmware workstation need to pay 1?

i having hard time for ubuntu, i dont know how to use ASP.net on linux. external hdd( ntfs) cant mount on ubuntu, cant install catia on it, linux still not that user friendly even it is better than last time.
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if u want to mount ur external hdd, u can use NTFS3G.
here's the how-to-install biggrin.gif : NTFS3G
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QUOTE(prancingHORSE @ Sep 14 2007, 03:52 PM)
Anyone having problems with installing of deluge on windows?
Mine just gets stuck as soon as it initiates installation. =S
I'm on windows sp2.
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QUOTE(warez @ Sep 14 2007, 04:58 PM)
Same here. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Xybirium @ Sep 15 2007, 09:51 AM)
I switched to Debian from Ubuntu and now I have problem running deluge.  Installation was no problem just that when I select it, it seems to just hang and then closes.

Any ideas anyone?

PS - Linux newbie here...
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I've emailed slurdge.org, providing them with a screenshot of the stuck installation problem because they requested for it on their website.
Within hours i got an email to test out another installer, and i am glad to say that it works.
Go to 'http://www.slurdge.org/deluge-on-windows' to download the newer alpha version for those who had that stuck installer problem. smile.gif
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Can anyone have a look at my screenies and check if my settings are alright?
I'm having 50+-KB/s download speeds, i think that is my maximum speed (according to past experiences) eventhough my line is capped at 1.5mb/s.
Surfing is slightly slow (not as terrible as when i first used bitcomet), but sometimes it is unable to load pages.
Would like someone to rectify whether my settings are alright.
I didn't portforward (is this required for deluge?) and i enabled UPnP for my router.
Thanks!

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QUOTE(prancingHORSE @ Sep 15 2007, 05:55 PM)
I've emailed slurdge.org, providing them with a screenshot of the stuck installation problem because they requested for it on their website.
Within hours i got an email to test out another installer, and i am glad to say that it works.
Go to 'http://www.slurdge.org/deluge-on-windows' to download the newer alpha version for those who had that stuck installer problem.  smile.gif
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Thanks for the info. smile.gif

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post Sep 15 2007, 07:43 PM

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whoops wrong thread.

edited.

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QUOTE(prancingHORSE @ Sep 15 2007, 05:55 PM)
I've emailed slurdge.org, providing them with a screenshot of the stuck installation problem because they requested for it on their website.
Within hours i got an email to test out another installer, and i am glad to say that it works.
Go to 'http://www.slurdge.org/deluge-on-windows' to download the newer alpha version for those who had that stuck installer problem.  smile.gif
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Thanks for the info but I'm using Debian.

I did try installing it using

aptitude -f install deluge-torrent

and it worked first time but when I closed and tried to start it again, it hanged.
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QUOTE(kunimi @ Sep 15 2007, 11:08 AM)
black,the vmware workstation need to pay 1?

i having hard time for ubuntu, i dont know how to use ASP.net on linux. external hdd( ntfs) cant mount on ubuntu, cant install catia on it, linux still not that user friendly even it is better than last time.
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yeah vmware workstation is not free.. but u always can use "google to buy it" biggrin.gif
or u can use vmware player, its free.

QUOTE(Xybirium @ Sep 15 2007, 08:18 PM)
Thanks for the info but I'm using Debian.

I did try installing it using

aptitude -f install deluge-torrent

and it worked first time but when I closed and tried to start it again, it hanged.
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seriously... now is the time for u to try ktorrent, or u already did?
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Kttorrent is the most stable BT client laugh.gif
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