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Xiaomi POCO F2 Pro, The New Flagship killer?

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post May 13 2020, 07:36 PM, updated 6y ago

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Qualcomm®Snapdragon 865 Kryo 585™ 585, 7 nm Process Technology
CPU frequency: Octa-core processor, up to 2.84 GHz
Qualcomm's trifecta design: 1 x 2.84GHz super large core + 3 x 2.42GHz large core + 4 x 1.80GHz small core
GPU: Adreno 650 GPU, up to 587MHz
AIE: 5th generation AIE processor

8GB + 256GB
LPDDR5 + UFS 3.1

Display

6.67” AMOLED Full Screen Display
Corning® Gorilla® Glass 5 front and back
Resolution: 2400×1080 FHD+
Brightness: 500 nits (typ) / 800 nits (HBM)
Aspect ratio: 20:9 | 92.7% screen-to-body ratio
Contrast ratio: 5,000,000:1(typ) | Color range: NTSC 98%(typ)
60Hz refresh rate, 180Hz sample rate
TÜV Rheinland Full Care Display Certification
Support HDR10+ and Netflix HD streaming
6GB + 128GB
LPDDR4X + UFS 3.1

Cameras

1. 64MP main wide sensor
Sony IMX686, 1.6μm 4-in-1 Super Pixel, 1/1.7“ sensor size, ƒ/1.89 aperture
2. 13MP ultra wide-angle sensor
123° FoV, ƒ/2.4 aperture
3. 5MP macro sensor
1.12μm pixel size, ƒ/2.2 aperture, AF (3cm-10cm)
4. 2MP depth sensor
1.75μm pixel size, ƒ/2.4 aperture

Rear camera photography features

64MP HD | AI camera | Pro mode | Night mode 2.0 | Document mode | Portrait mode background blurring | Panorama mode | Pro mode | Photo timer | Leveling | Burst mode | Face recognition | HDR | AI Beautify | AI smart slimming | Ultra wide-angle edge distortion correction | Group photo face correction | Custom watermark | Portrait mode background blur adjustment | AI light trails | AI Studio lighting | AI high resolution photos
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AI 8K video | 4K recording | Video bokeh | Shootsteady video | Vlog mode | Video filters | Cinematic mode | Movie frame | Macro slow-motion video | 960 fps slow motion video | Rear Short video smart slimming | Rear video beautify
8K video recording 24fps/30fps
4K video recording 30fps/60fps
1080p video recording 30fps/60fps
720p video recording 30fps"
*8K 24fps feature will be added later via OTA update.
Slow-motion video
960fps 720P/1080P
240fps 720P/1080P
120fps 720P/1080P

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Supports 30W fast charge
Built-in rechargeable battery
USB Type-C reversible connector port
Supports QC4.0+/ PD 3.0 quick charging protocol
33W charger included in-box , PD charging protocol

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Depends on pricing
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Poco F2 Pro...I think I am quite impressed..if the price in Malaysia for base model is rm1899 or less..
1.snapdragon 865
2. 30w fast charge
3. 4700 mah battery
4. Cheapest 5G fon
5. full screen AMOLED display with no notch
6. quad camera with macro lens
7. UFS 3.1 storage
8. Liquid cooling tech with much wider area for heat dissipation
etc etc etc
It will be the "cheapest" flagship ever....i Miss Oneplus One era where I bought the 64gb for less than 1.3k
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post May 13 2020, 08:32 PM

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no OIS...i no hepi liao for that price
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QUOTE(pundi @ May 13 2020, 08:32 PM)
no OIS...i no hepi liao for that price
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The camera won't be the selling point for this phone, I think. So if that's your priority, for the same price probably can get the Huawei P30 biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(attw @ May 13 2020, 08:41 PM)
The camera won't be the selling point for this phone, I think. So if that's your priority, for the same price probably can get the Huawei P30 biggrin.gif
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if no play store i wont even consider it
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post May 13 2020, 08:50 PM

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if only thy include a 90hz screen

is 2020... no high refresh rate screen is kinda a deal breaker
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QUOTE(pundi @ May 13 2020, 08:32 PM)
no OIS...i no hepi liao for that price
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While the k30pro got ois?
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QUOTE(Punish @ May 13 2020, 09:11 PM)
While the k30pro got ois?
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Only the k30 pro zoom edition got OIS on both main and telephoto lens. But it lacks macro lense
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QUOTE(pundi @ May 13 2020, 08:32 PM)
no OIS...i no hepi liao for that price
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QUOTE(pundi @ May 13 2020, 08:45 PM)
must have play store....
if no play store i wont even consider it
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P30 still got Play Store bro... the last one smile.gif
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I tot there is no love for this kid
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So does it have a Kevlar version this time around?
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post May 13 2020, 11:07 PM

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Any bets on RRP below RM1.5k?
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60Hz ancient screen technology is a major turn off for me...add that to no ois and optical zoom lense in their camera.

5G is kind of redundant also when none of our telco is offering. I think next year also most probably 5G still not yet operational in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(Salary @ May 14 2020, 12:46 AM)
Any bets on RRP below RM1.5k?
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No 90Hz refresh rate?

Dayum..
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QUOTE(prolexus @ May 14 2020, 12:52 AM)
60Hz ancient screen technology is a major turn off for me...add that to no ois and optical zoom lense  in their camera.

5G is kind of redundant also when none of our telco is offering. I think next year also most probably 5G still not yet operational in Malaysia.
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Some like you may say its ancient, just like 1080p ppl often say its an old tech considering, but fact of the matter is 60hz and 1080p is still acceptable standard today, its more than enough for most ppl. Somemore most the games and apps still dont support higher refresh rates anyway and not to mention its drain battery like vampire also...yes higher refresh rates its nice to have, but its certainly not a deal breaker....

Ps: if you guys put a 90hz refresh rates as your main priority, bigger than other spec....please buy the realme 6 then and you can enjoy scrolling your apps drawer all day long....its alot cheaper somemore...

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QUOTE(marcyeo @ May 13 2020, 08:20 PM)
Poco F2 Pro...I think I am quite impressed..if the price in Malaysia for base model is rm1899 or less..
1.snapdragon 865
2. 30w fast charge
3. 4700 mah battery
4. Cheapest 5G fon
5. full screen AMOLED display with no notch
6. quad camera with macro lens
7. UFS 3.1 storage
8. Liquid cooling tech with much wider area for heat dissipation
etc etc etc
It will be the "cheapest" flagship ever....i Miss Oneplus One era where I bought the 64gb for less than 1.3k
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I doubt it will be this cheap, probably rm2200-2400

There’s no snapdragon 865 below rm2800 at the moment.
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what's the real difference between k30 pro? in term of hardware, all exactly the same right? including the liquid cooling thingy?
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QUOTE(Punish @ May 14 2020, 07:30 AM)
Some like you may say its ancient, just like 1080p ppl often say its an old tech considering, but fact of the matter is 60hz and 1080p is still acceptable standard today, its more than enough for most ppl. Somemore most the games and apps still dont support higher refresh rates anyway and not to mention its drain battery like vampire also...yes higher refresh rates its nice to have, but its certainly not a deal breaker....

Ps: if you guys put a 90hz refresh rates as your main priority, bigger than other spec....please buy the realme 6 then and you can enjoy scrolling your apps drawer all day long....its alot cheaper somemore...
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Haters gonna hate. Must be nice seeing a lot of other people living in an era of "ancient" technology.

QUOTE(zr125 @ May 14 2020, 08:09 AM)
what's the real difference between k30 pro? in term of hardware, all exactly the same right? including the liquid cooling thingy?
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The only difference I could find is that, in terms of hardware, redmi k30 pro doesn't support B20 LTE (which isn't supported in Malaysia anyway). I'm guessing rhe liquid cooling thingy is the same but sorry I have no supporting evidence for this.

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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 14 2020, 07:46 AM)
I doubt it will be this cheap, probably rm2200-2400

There’s no snapdragon 865 below rm2800 at the moment.
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Agree.

But I think realme x50 pro is about the same price (AP set ofc, not sure about local set though).
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 14 2020, 09:07 AM)
Agree.

But I think realme x50 pro is about the same price (AP set ofc, not sure about local set though).
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X50 pro hasn’t officially release in Malaysia right?

At the moment can only get x2 pro, and that phone hasn’t dropped in price since launch in December.
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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ May 13 2020, 10:30 PM)
at last someone create this thread...
I tot there is no love for this kid
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Love for this kid will highly depend on the pricing in Malaysia smile.gif

QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 14 2020, 07:46 AM)
I doubt it will be this cheap, probably rm2200-2400

There’s no snapdragon 865 below rm2800 at the moment.
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Got one, bro.

https://www.lowyat.net/2020/211837/black-sh...-price-directd/

QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 14 2020, 09:33 AM)
X50 pro hasn’t officially release in Malaysia right?

At the moment can only get x2 pro, and that phone hasn’t dropped in price since launch in December.
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Actually I wouldn't mid getting the X50 Pro if it launches here at about RM2.4k or so. Been using Realme UI for more than a month now and it's pretty good. I definitely enjoy it more than MIUI smile.gif
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QUOTE(attw @ May 14 2020, 09:38 AM)
Love for this kid will highly depend on the pricing in Malaysia smile.gif
Got one, bro.

https://www.lowyat.net/2020/211837/black-sh...-price-directd/
Actually I wouldn't mid getting the X50 Pro if it launches here at about RM2.4k or so. Been using Realme UI for more than a month now and it's pretty good. I definitely enjoy it more than MIUI smile.gif
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So far looks promising for poco f2 pro pricing, can’t wait for the launch in Malaysia.

The Realme x2 pro also not bad, to be honest.
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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 14 2020, 09:46 AM)
So far looks promising for poco f2 pro pricing, can’t wait for the launch in Malaysia.

The Realme x2 pro also not bad, to be honest.
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Yeah, but for a brand like Realme, I expected the X2 to be priced below RM2k. And like you said, the price just wouldn't drop even though I have half an eye on it for some time laugh.gif
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QUOTE(attw @ May 14 2020, 09:47 AM)
Yeah, but for a brand like Realme, I expected the X2 to be priced below RM2k. And like you said, the price just wouldn't drop even though I have half an eye on it for some time laugh.gif
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Before realme 6 I actually thought “who would buy the Realme x2 pro for rm2399?” Better go for Samsung or Huawei, but when you look at the specs, it’s actually much much cheaper than their Samsung or Huawei counterparts.

Now I actually have good impression of realme, they are basically the new Xiaomi (how Xiaomi was last time offering affordable flagships), cause even now Xiaomi starting to charge more and more for their flagship models.
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Won't below 2.5K for the highest spec version i can tell u all...
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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 14 2020, 07:46 AM)
I doubt it will be this cheap, probably rm2200-2400

There’s no snapdragon 865 below rm2800 at the moment.
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ May 13 2020, 08:50 PM)
if only thy include a 90hz screen

is 2020... no high refresh rate screen is kinda a deal breaker
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agree, its a bummer phone with that kinda spec lacks high refresh rate
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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 14 2020, 09:52 AM)
Before realme 6 I actually thought “who would buy the Realme x2 pro for rm2399?” Better go for Samsung or Huawei, but when you look at the specs, it’s actually much much cheaper than their Samsung or Huawei counterparts.

Now I actually have good impression of realme, they are basically the new Xiaomi (how Xiaomi was last time offering affordable flagships), cause even now Xiaomi starting to charge more and more for their flagship models.
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Haha, yeah, I feel you. I had the Realme 5 which was a bit of a pain, but they really upped their game on the Realme 6 even with a MTK processor! Anyways, that's a discussion for another thread!

Out of curiosity, I downloaded the Poco launcher and am now using it on my Redmi Note 5. First impressions are not so good, but will give it another couple of days or so to try laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 14 2020, 09:33 AM)
X50 pro hasn’t officially release in Malaysia right?

At the moment can only get x2 pro, and that phone hasn’t dropped in price since launch in December.
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I'm not sure myself lol

The x2 pro must be selling like hotcake, it's hard to see phone price keeps sustaining after a few months
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This phone can't given 90hz screen is to give way to his big brother Mi 10 Pro... Remember last year how's Redmi K20 Pro slam Mi 9 sales ??

To protect Mi 10 Pro so this phone have to sacrifice the 90hz refresh rate then shut up ur mouth with bigger 4700mAH battery given...

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realme 6 pro at 1.4k can even provide stereo speakers and 90hz, i wonder what the heck is Poco doing with this, not even stereo speakers.
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QUOTE(Omochao @ May 14 2020, 11:50 AM)
realme 6 pro at 1.4k can even provide stereo speakers and 90hz, i wonder what the heck is Poco doing with this, not even stereo speakers.
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There is no stereo speakers in realme 6 pro...
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QUOTE(uk15029 @ May 14 2020, 10:53 AM)
There is no stereo speakers in realme 6 pro...
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I thought having Dolby atmos is considered so? I may be wrong. But still realme still can afford to include that feature, meanwhile poco..
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 14 2020, 09:03 AM)
Haters gonna hate. Must be nice seeing a lot of other people living in an era of "ancient" technology.
The only difference I could find is that, in terms of hardware, redmi k30 pro doesn't support B20 LTE (which isn't supported in Malaysia anyway). I'm guessing rhe liquid cooling thingy is the same but sorry I have no supporting evidence for this.
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Dont think 60Hz to 120Hz display refresh rate are technology breakthrough biggrin.gif
I havent own smartphone with over 60Hz display refresh rate yet, so cant be 100% sure, but I think the 'smoothness of user experience' largely affected by OS/software optimization.
When I use OG Pixel XL few years back, I'm amazed at that iOS level smoothness, but when 'upgraded' to newer phone like poco F1 and xiaomi mi9T, that extreme smoothness gone missing. Poco F1 does felt fast but not smooth.

IMO what's require are higher than 60hz, let's say 90Hz. So when framerate dropped ( which happened on games required heavy resources ), it dropped from 90fps to 72fps etc, which still felt smooth.
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 14 2020, 10:55 AM)
Dont think 60Hz to 120Hz display refresh rate are technology breakthrough  biggrin.gif
I havent own smartphone with over 60Hz display refresh rate yet, so cant be 100% sure, but I think the 'smoothness of user experience' largely affected by OS/software optimization.
When I use OG Pixel XL few years back, I'm amazed at that iOS level smoothness, but when 'upgraded' to newer phone like poco F1 and xiaomi mi9T, that extreme smoothness gone missing. Poco F1 does felt fast but not smooth.

IMO what's require are higher than 60hz, let's say 90Hz. So when framerate dropped ( which happened on games required heavy resources ), it dropped from 90fps to 72fps etc, which still felt smooth.
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but isn't it a bit mind boggling that the Poco X2 can do up to 120hz with its lcd panel, where else the OLDE panel on Poco F2 Pro only can do 60hz.

What are they trying to pull here? by right the Poco F2 Pro is suppose to have all the features of PocoX2.
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QUOTE(Omochao @ May 14 2020, 10:50 AM)
realme 6 pro at 1.4k can even provide stereo speakers and 90hz, i wonder what the heck is Poco doing with this, not even stereo speakers.
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big brother Xiaomi are watching, so they cant all-in and grab away sales biggrin.gif

IMO poco went too far on F1, giving too much value. It's like iphoneSE2, flagship SOC but mid-range other ( display, camera ).
F2 now up their game on display ( AMOLED ) which contribute to increase on cost also.
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QUOTE(Omochao @ May 14 2020, 11:00 AM)
but isn't it a bit mind boggling that the Poco X2 can do up to 120hz with its lcd panel, where else the OLDE panel on Poco F2 Pro only can do 60hz.

What are they trying to pull here? by right the Poco F2 Pro is suppose to have all the features of PocoX2.
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I think it's just cost, LCD are easier to get high refresh rate. See laptop with LCD and AMOLED option.
but possibly like other speculated, they cant over-come big brother xiaomi tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 14 2020, 11:11 AM)
I think it's just cost, LCD are easier to get high refresh rate. See laptop with LCD and AMOLED option.
but possibly like other speculated, they cant over-come big brother xiaomi  tongue.gif
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I won't say for now of not getting this, but I will wait and see what they are hiding up in their sleeves. Maybe next one is Poco F2 Pro PREMIUM,Extreme?
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QUOTE(marcyeo @ May 14 2020, 10:24 AM)
well...it is just my instinct hehe...if 1899 to 1999 will be awesome
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Noooooo... Don't drop too fast cause I just bought my k30 pro zoom at rm2450 lololol

QUOTE(jcksn81 @ May 14 2020, 10:43 AM)
This phone can't given 90hz screen is to give way to his big brother Mi 10 Pro...  Remember last year how's Redmi K20 Pro slam Mi 9 sales ??

To protect Mi 10 Pro so this phone have to sacrifice the 90hz refresh rate then shut up ur mouth with bigger 4700mAH battery given...
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 14 2020, 10:55 AM)
Dont think 60Hz to 120Hz display refresh rate are technology breakthrough  biggrin.gif
I havent own smartphone with over 60Hz display refresh rate yet, so cant be 100% sure, but I think the 'smoothness of user experience' largely affected by OS/software optimization.
When I use OG Pixel XL few years back, I'm amazed at that iOS level smoothness, but when 'upgraded' to newer phone like poco F1 and xiaomi mi9T, that extreme smoothness gone missing. Poco F1 does felt fast but not smooth.

IMO what's require are higher than 60hz, let's say 90Hz. So when framerate dropped ( which happened on games required heavy resources ), it dropped from 90fps to 72fps etc, which still felt smooth.
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Software optimisation plays a major role in smoothness. I really hope miui 12 that they are going to release next month get better than all of their predecessors.

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QUOTE(GAME_ON @ May 14 2020, 10:30 AM)
agree, its a bummer phone with that kinda spec lacks high refresh rate
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They have to cut back on cost somewhere...

QUOTE(Omochao @ May 14 2020, 10:50 AM)
realme 6 pro at 1.4k can even provide stereo speakers and 90hz, i wonder what the heck is Poco doing with this, not even stereo speakers.
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No, the Realme 6 Pro has a single-firing speaker with above average loudness, but that's about it.

QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 14 2020, 10:55 AM)
Dont think 60Hz to 120Hz display refresh rate are technology breakthrough  biggrin.gif
I havent own smartphone with over 60Hz display refresh rate yet, so cant be 100% sure, but I think the 'smoothness of user experience' largely affected by OS/software optimization.
When I use OG Pixel XL few years back, I'm amazed at that iOS level smoothness, but when 'upgraded' to newer phone like poco F1 and xiaomi mi9T, that extreme smoothness gone missing. Poco F1 does felt fast but not smooth.

IMO what's require are higher than 60hz, let's say 90Hz. So when framerate dropped ( which happened on games required heavy resources ), it dropped from 90fps to 72fps etc, which still felt smooth.
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Exactly, so if the OS/software isn't optimised, the 90hz refresh rates helps provide the "feeling" that everything is silky smooth smile.gif Personally, I don't see it as a deal breaker but some people with super sharp eyesight these days can't than 60hz anymore once they've seen 90hz laugh.gif
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I just wish it had OIS.....imx686 with OIS is really good....well let just see the price 1st...
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so many things to buy...

ps5
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if Im need to drop 1, most likely this Poco 🙄

anyway does anyone know what is the resell value for Poco f1?
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QUOTE(marcyeo @ May 13 2020, 08:20 PM)
Poco F2 Pro...I think I am quite impressed..if the price in Malaysia for base model is rm1899 or less..
1.snapdragon 865
2. 30w fast charge
3. 4700 mah battery
4. Cheapest 5G fon
5. full screen AMOLED display with no notch
6. quad camera with macro lens
7. UFS 3.1 storage
8. Liquid cooling tech with much wider area for heat dissipation
etc etc etc
It will be the "cheapest" flagship ever....i Miss Oneplus One era where I bought the 64gb for less than 1.3k
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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 14 2020, 07:46 AM)
I doubt it will be this cheap, probably rm2200-2400

There’s no snapdragon 865 below rm2800 at the moment.
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QUOTE(Omochao @ May 14 2020, 11:14 AM)
I won't say for now of not getting this, but I will wait and see what they are hiding up in their sleeves. Maybe next one is Poco F2 Pro PREMIUM,Extreme?
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that'll be fxxked up biggrin.gif OP got McLaren version, maybe poco come out Type R version cool2.gif

QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 14 2020, 11:17 AM)
Noooooo... Don't drop too fast cause I just bought my k30 pro zoom at rm2450 lololol
What to do, kuli kuli must sapot big bro and get all the credits 🤣
Software optimisation plays a major role in smoothness. I really hope miui 12 that they are going to release next month get better than all of their predecessors.
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I think wont become reality, but I would really want a near-stock version.
Something like Asus did last year with Zenphone 6. They went from one of the worst optimized Android manufacturer to smooth and well praised.
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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ May 14 2020, 12:12 PM)
so many things to buy...

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if Im need to drop 1, most likely this Poco 🙄

anyway does anyone know what is the resell value for Poco f1?
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PS5 end of the year ma, if no delay.
Why Android tablet ? I think Android and it's app are not suitable ( or optimized ) for tablet.
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 14 2020, 03:13 PM)
PS5 end of the year ma, if no delay.
Why Android tablet ? I think Android and it's app are not suitable ( or optimized ) for tablet.
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my this year purchase planning la
cant buy all the stuff especially current unstable economy...
need to control abit.... brows.gif

and the tablet i'ill b using it to read and movie
not for game or any app, no need to be too powerful

fyi using phone to read, my eyes pain
font too small and troublesome to zoom everytime

ps: still~ if PocoF2p is still holding their flagship killer price, tat might be different story moneyflies.gif
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impossible, be prepared to bleed 2.4k
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All the reviews I've read or seen of the K30 Pro is average at best. A lot will depend on the pricing on whether the F2 Pro will be a good buy or not smile.gif
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https://youtu.be/amIKQdklS2g
Difference between 60Hz and 910Hz refresh rate. It's like between heaven and earth la
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Slow-mo video are not really good way to prove.


Not saying 90Hz or 120Hz are useless, but most people exaggerated it's effectiveness in real life, can be just placebo effect.

I'm using 100Hz PC monitor, do I felt different when browsing, watch youtube ? absolutely no. Only when games capable of 80-100fps can I felt it.
How does a game which my PC can only run around 40fps on my 100Hz monitor ? felt sluggish.

90Hz or 120Hz display, need to pair with OS or software capable of utilize it. I'm not yet confident that xiaomi and thus poco already perfect MIUI to 90fps or 120fps ( waiting MIUI 12 please laugh.gif ) so really it's just certain games that support 90-120Hz can you enjoy it.

90Hz and 90fps are not the same biggrin.gif
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flagship killer went flagship price

while apple se went flagship performance with ancient parts

what a year to be alive
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Slow-mo video are not really good way to prove.


Not saying 90Hz or 120Hz are useless, but most people exaggerated it's effectiveness in real life, can be just placebo effect.

I'm using 100Hz PC monitor, do I felt different when browsing, watch youtube ? absolutely no. Only when games capable of 80-100fps can I felt it.
How does a game which my PC can only run around 40fps on my 100Hz monitor ? felt sluggish.

90Hz or 120Hz display, need to pair with OS or software capable of utilize it. I'm not yet confident that xiaomi and thus poco already perfect MIUI to 90fps or 120fps ( waiting MIUI 12 please  laugh.gif  ) so really it's just certain games that support 90-120Hz can you enjoy it.

90Hz and 90fps are not the same  biggrin.gif
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what a year to be alive
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2020 is a weird year for teach, so far flex.gif
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well...it is just my instinct hehe...if 1899 to 1999 will be awesome
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It would be better if they take out the 5G Modem and replace it with MicroSD reader or bigger battery, 5G is not necessary or needed now
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It would be better if they take out the 5G Modem and replace it with MicroSD reader or bigger battery, 5G is not necessary or needed now
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in 2020 who still need SD cards? lol..... get the 256GB storage...

I would skip 90Hz screen, but want OIS instead

about 5G, nah..... maybe in 2022/23.....
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It would be better if they take out the 5G Modem and replace it with MicroSD reader or bigger battery, 5G is not necessary or needed now
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Cant. SD865 only pair with 1 modem, which integrated 5G and LTE together. So SD865 mandatory comes with 5G.
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 15 2020, 04:15 PM)
I edy black-listed Snap865... Stop buying non-essentials item...LOL... looking towards Snap768G... if they price it right, will only then consider... I edy tested Snap855/855+... need to feel the brand new 768G pulak...
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Hopefully price it right.
On paper 768G should be powerful enough, using similar Cortex A76 + A55 as SD855
I'm using mi9T SD730 so I'm perfectly happy with it's performance.
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I edy black-listed Snap865... Stop buying non-essentials item...LOL... looking towards Snap768G... if they price it right, will only then consider... I edy tested Snap855/855+... need to feel the brand new 768G pulak...
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Don't want to test Mediatek Dimensity series, bro? smile.gif
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QUOTE(khreve @ May 15 2020, 01:43 PM)
in 2020 who still need SD cards?  lol..... get the 256GB storage...

I would skip 90Hz screen, but want OIS instead

about 5G, nah..... maybe in 2022/23.....
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Many people still prefer to have SD Cards, local backup / storage is better than cloud. Even 256GB runs out of space easily on my iPhone.
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Yeah, if they can keep it lower then iPhone SE, that would be great news!
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I think that'd be possible a few months after launch, hopefully.

QUOTE(khreve @ May 15 2020, 01:43 PM)
in 2020 who still need SD cards?  lol..... get the 256GB storage...

I would skip 90Hz screen, but want OIS instead

about 5G, nah..... maybe in 2022/23.....
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I watched two videos comparing standard k30 pro and zoom edition (one without OIS while the other dual OIS), not much different in terms of pictures and video quality. But then again I still opted for zoom edition lol.
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I want that too... they re-branded to give positive impressions to the public (and tech enthusiasts...(?)). But, just watch YouTube will do so far... see whether this so-called "Diamond-City" is reliable or not... if the ISP can produce at par pix and vix during night-sight, then we have options to the "ultra-hyper-expensive" Snap865...

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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 15 2020, 04:33 PM)
I think that'd be possible a few months after launch, hopefully.
I watched two videos comparing standard k30 pro and zoom edition (one without OIS while the other dual OIS), not much different in terms of pictures and video quality. But then again I still opted for zoom edition lol.
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So the only difference between the K30 Pro Zoom and non Zoom is only the OIS and nothing else?
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So the only difference between the K30 Pro Zoom and non Zoom is only the OIS and nothing else?
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Hardware wise, it's the camera setup. The zoom edition replaces macro lens on regular pro with 3x telephoto lens with OIS iinm. So no telephoto lens and hybrid zoom on regular pro and can only digital zoom up to 10x. The zoom edition can hybrid zoom upto 30x. The regular pro still looks promising I think, who wants to zoom 30x anyway lol. Other than that the regular pro only has EIS in main camera while the zoom one has OIS instead.
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I edy black-listed Snap865... Stop buying non-essentials item...LOL... looking towards Snap768G... if they price it right, will only then consider... I edy tested Snap855/855+... need to feel the brand new 768G pulak...
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wat is the different in performance score
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So the only difference between the K30 Pro Zoom and non Zoom is only the OIS and nothing else?
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Zoom Edition with USF3.1
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Okay what if we get the k30pro zoom edition instead of pocof2p.....will the band work fine here in malaysia...?
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 15 2020, 05:14 PM)
Hardware wise, it's the camera setup. The zoom edition replaces macro lens on regular pro with 3x telephoto lens with OIS iinm. So no telephoto lens and hybrid zoom on regular pro and can only digital zoom up to 10x. The zoom edition can hybrid zoom upto 30x. The regular pro still looks promising I think, who wants to zoom 30x anyway lol. Other than that the regular pro only has EIS in main camera while the zoom one has OIS instead.
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Ok bro, thanks for the detailed explanation. I think that's not really a deal breaker for me since I'm not into serious photography or stuffs. Just wanna test the phone. Hope it comes soon smile.gif

QUOTE(jcksn81 @ May 15 2020, 06:20 PM)
Zoom Edition with USF3.1
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Okay what if we get the k30pro zoom edition instead of pocof2p.....will the band work fine here in malaysia...?
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I don't have the phone myself but I think it shouldn't be a problem unless our telcos here decide to overwrite previous LTE band with B20. As far as I know we don't use B20 here in Malaysia.

https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibilit...mi-imi/malaysia

https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibilit...imipro/malaysia

The video here explains everything if anyone has doubt to choose between k30p and f2p

https://youtu.be/wTITyqekmpk

As for ads that come with the stock China ROM, flashing xiaomi.eu ROM will get rid of those, but that will void the warranty I think? But that's not really a problem to me since there hasn't been a single phone yet that I didn't root or jailbreak from day one once I got them. Screw warranty, never use them anyway 🤣
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Well....as i said it before in here. The poco f2 pro is around USD500. so my instinct is materialising....rm2000 or less tongue.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgysj8Q4NdQ

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Well....as i said it before in here. The poco f2 pro is around USD500. so my instinct is materialising....rm2000 or less tongue.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgysj8Q4NdQ
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Any chance you're getting one if it's less than rm2000 bro? rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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Any chance you're getting one if it's less than rm2000 bro?  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(Punish @ May 15 2020, 06:38 PM)
Okay what if we get the k30pro zoom edition instead of pocof2p.....will the band work fine here in malaysia...?
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According to the information in GSMArena (I could not find the information on Xiaomi Malaysia official website), Redmi K30 Pro Zoom edition support 4G FDD-LTE band 1/3/5/7/8 and 4G TDD-LTE 38/39/40/41.

The phone works fine on MAXIS, CELCOM, Digi, U Mobile and even TM Unifi, but unfortunately not on YES 4G because it has not supported 4G band 20.

If you are not a user of YES 4G, then it's okay for you to get the Redmi K30 Pro Zoom edition.

QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 15 2020, 08:39 PM)
I don't have the phone myself but I think it shouldn't be a problem unless our telcos here decide to overwrite previous LTE band with B20. As far as I know we don't use B20 here in Malaysia.

https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibilit...mi-imi/malaysia

https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibilit...imipro/malaysia

The video here explains everything if anyone has doubt to choose between k30p and f2p

https://youtu.be/wTITyqekmpk

As for ads that come with the stock China ROM, flashing xiaomi.eu ROM will get rid of those, but that will void the warranty I think? But that's not really a problem to me since there hasn't been a single phone yet that I didn't root or jailbreak from day one once I got them. Screw warranty, never use them anyway 🤣
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YES 4G is using 4G band 20.
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Well....as i said it before in here. The poco f2 pro is around USD500. so my instinct is materialising....rm2000 or less tongue.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgysj8Q4NdQ
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Lets all hope this is true!
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definitely! I need to buy new material for my channel tongue.gif
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What's your channel? Always good to see more and more local content.

Edit: ignore this, just realized your footnote links.

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What's your channel? Always good to see more and more local content.

Edit: ignore this, just realized your footnote links.
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Didn't know that, thanks for the heads up! Then it'd be troublesome for yes 4g users.

Edit: The B20 is for commercial use? On Wikipedia it says its for trial under Yes 4G.

Edit2: Found an article Yes 4g deploys B20 in some areas in KL/Selangor.

https://www.malaysiainternet.my/2019/11/ytl-yes4g-800mhz/

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Didn't know that, thanks for the heads up! Then it'd be troublesome for yes 4g users.

Edit: The B20 is for commercial use? On Wikipedia it says its for trial under Yes 4G.
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Maybe our government wants to commercialize the B20.

If Redmi K30 Pro Zoom edition is officially launched in Malaysia, I believe Xiaomi will give 4G B20 to the phone.

All Xiaomi Redmi phones that officially launched in Malaysia have 4G band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/38/40.

For U Mobile users, 4G band 7 is the most important for them.
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Maybe our government wants to commercialize the B20.

If Redmi K30 Pro Zoom edition is officially launched in Malaysia, I believe Xiaomi will give 4G B20 to the phone.

All Xiaomi Redmi phones that officially launched in Malaysia have 4G band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/38/40.

For U Mobile users, 4G band 7 is the most important for them.
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I see. That'd be quite congested since the government is also planning to initiate and expand 5g network, which is only a matter of time. I find it funny when 5g project is already in the plan while us maxis users are still waiting for VoLTE.

I wonder when the zoom edition will be commercialised here.
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Hopefully MY official price is lower than this

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Hopefully. Soon bro soon 😁

Btw they forgot to change the logo. Damn kantoi 🤣
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I see. That'd be quite congested since the government is also planning to initiate and expand 5g network, which is only a matter of time. I find it funny when 5g project is already in the plan while us maxis users are still waiting for VoLTE.

I wonder when the zoom edition will be commercialised here.
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Maybe MAXIS is going to give Vo5G, not VoLTE.

Hopefully Xiaomi Malaysia will be more aggressive in our market since the late comer - realme market share already exceeds Xiaomi.
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Hopefully. Soon bro soon 😁

Btw they forgot to change the logo. Damn kantoi 🤣
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Maybe MAXIS is going to give Vo5G, not VoLTE.

Hopefully Xiaomi Malaysia will be more aggressive in our market since the late comer - realme market share already exceeds Xiaomi.
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Vo5G? As one of the maxis customers I'm quite sceptical but why not icon_idea.gif

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For all you know this seller is trying to pull a fast one on us, hahaha...
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How about RM8k? laugh.gif

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How about RM8k? laugh.gif

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Might as well go buy Galaxy Flip Z. Paying 4 times over just to get it slightly earlier is ridiculous. I wonder which market they’re targeting.  hmm.gif
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Lolololololol 🤣️ 🤣️. 8k...Im speechless 😆
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I'm pretty sure it's just a "placeholder" of some sort. Suspect the phone will be made official pretty soon laugh.gif
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I'm pretty sure it's just a "placeholder" of some sort. Suspect the phone will be made official pretty soon laugh.gif
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I see. That makes sense. But I bet if someone buys that at rm8k, that seller will be happily obliged to deliver the unit icon_idea.gif
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I see. That makes sense. But I bet if someone buys that at rm8k, that seller will be happily obliged to deliver the unit  icon_idea.gif
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Correct lohhh... 3 units for RM8,000. Different colours summore...

So, it's "official" the SRP is:
= RM8,000 ÷ 3
= RM2,666
~ RM2,599

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Correct lohhh... 3 units for RM8,000. Different colours summore...

So, it's "official" the SRP is:
= RM8,000 ÷ 3
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Hahaha I like the way you think, but there should be a 4th unit in invisible colour.
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Hahaha I like the way you think, but there should be a 4th unit in invisible colour.
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For 8k I think he will deliver two units, buy one free one biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 17 2020, 03:43 PM)
Correct lohhh... 3 units for RM8,000. Different colours summore...

So, it's "official" the SRP is:
= RM8,000 ÷ 3
= RM2,666
~ RM2,599
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 17 2020, 04:45 PM)
Yeah lol 🤣
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Hahaha, we will see smile.gif

2,599 is still a bit high-priced for me. Can almost get a OP8 at that price already.

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Hahaha, we will see smile.gif

2,599 is still a bit high-priced for me. Can almost get a OP8 at that price already.
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OK lah... Kasi cincai... LOL... Here's the clue:
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So, we edy have iPhone SE 2020 Killer soon...LOL....later lots of "Influencers" will compare these devices...

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OK lah... Kasi cincai... LOL... Here's the clue:
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So, we edy have iPhone SE 2020 Killer soon...LOL....later lots of "Influencers" will compare these devices...
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Poco F2 Pro at RM1,999 will sell like hot cakes, I'm sure laugh.gif
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Nice write-up about the Poco F2 Pro...

https://gsmarena.com/poco_f2_pro_random_tho...-news-43202.php
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If price is above RM2K, better take K30 Pro Zoom and install Poco Launcher if needed. You get better camera and OIS.
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Reading the comments, i can justify that the hate is strong in this one... Well, not just this one tbh.
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It doesn't say the warranty by who.
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It doesn't say the warranty by who.
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It doesn't say the warranty by who.
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base spec already 2.6k, way above than what I estimated at 2.4-2.5.

Goodluck with the sales.
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QUOTE(Omochao @ May 19 2020, 03:36 PM)
base spec already 2.6k, way above than what I estimated at 2.4-2.5.

Goodluck with the sales.
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Too close to Mi 10 and OP8 prices already if that is the case.
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Too close to Mi 10 and OP8 prices already if that is the case.
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doesn't justifies at all, the k30 price range is aroun 1.2k-1.4k, by that I expect the PRO version should be only most to most +500.

Same case for the previous K20/K20pro/Mi9t/Mi9tPro.

Mi9t original retail price was at 1499 during release, pro version was 1799. Now thanks to all but no use 5G chipset, the price jack up to nearly 3k. I'm using op7t now, never regret except missing audio jack
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QUOTE(Omochao @ May 19 2020, 03:42 PM)
doesn't justifies at all, the k30 price range is aroun 1.2k-1.4k, by that I expect the PRO version should be only most to most +500.

Same case for the previous K20/K20pro/Mi9t/Mi9tPro.

Mi9t original retail price was at 1499 during release, pro version was 1799. Now thanks to all but no use 5G chipset, the price jack up to nearly 3k. I'm using op7t now, never regret except missing audio jack
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Cheapest K30 Pro I found is about RM1,999. Doesn't make sense for the Poco F2 Pro to cost fee hundreds more than that since it's essentially the same phone.
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Cheapest K30 Pro I found is about RM1,999. Doesn't make sense for the Poco F2 Pro to cost fee hundreds more than that since it's essentially the same phone.
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what a laughing joke seriously, I hope everyone is smart enough to notice that and not to make any hasty purchase yet, let them eat the the bullet and start reducing the price.
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For similar price, most sensible people will choose OnePlus 8, for much better OS optimization and support.
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what a laughing joke seriously, I hope everyone is smart enough to notice that and not to make any hasty purchase yet, let them eat the the bullet and start reducing the price.
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For similar price, most sensible people will choose OnePlus 8, for much better OS optimization and support.
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Yeah, anything above RM2.2k and people will consider other better options. We’ll have to wait and see.
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RM2.6k just for the base model??? Dear xiaomi and your distributor, just who are you trying to fool with? Or the theory that this phone is just a scapegoat to boost your mi 10 series is true after all? bangwall.gif rclxub.gif
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It doesn't say the warranty by who.
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Not going to even consider it at that price. The Pocophone has just lost it’s biggest marketing point - the price. Now it’s just another normal midrange phone.
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 19 2020, 11:46 PM)
RM2.6k just for the base model??? Dear xiaomi and your distributor, just who are you trying to fool with? Or the theory that this phone is just a scapegoat to boost your mi 10 series is true after all?  bangwall.gif  rclxub.gif
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I'm sure that's just the dealer trying to cash in on those early adopters. Don't think that will be the official price when it launches here in Malaysia.
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Calm yo tits. It could be imported set. Even AliExpress is selling cheaper at MYR 2,347.89

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Sayonara Android... Hello Mr. Timmy...
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I seriously can't recommend the iPhone SE at RM1,999 to any Android enthusiasts bro, even though I am a self-proclaimed i-Fag laugh.gif
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I'm sure that's just the dealer trying to cash in on those early adopters. Don't think that will be the official price when it launches here in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(sp6068 @ May 20 2020, 10:29 AM)
Calm yo tits. It could be imported set. Even AliExpress is selling cheaper at MYR 2,347.89

Local set *should* cost lesser.
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I'm placing my bet on you guys. The price just doesn't make sense lol.
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man, i am a hardcore poco f1 lover, still using it till this day. was thinking of selling it, but ended up using it as my second phone. im not even sure whether its my second phone, as I use it more than my oneplus 7t.

But this F2 pro at this price point and being a rebranded k30 pro, is seriously... disappointing. I guess theres nothing to look forward to anymore about poco.
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I'm placing my bet on you guys. The price just doesn't make sense lol.
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I seriously can't recommend the iPhone SE at RM1,999 to any Android enthusiasts bro, even though I am a self-proclaimed i-Fag laugh.gif
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Oh well... I'm always looking at long-term investment:
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And...

Resale value after 24 months:
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 20 2020, 01:38 PM)
Oh well... I'm always looking at long-term investment:
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And...

Resale value after 24 months:
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Wow. Thanks bro for your analysis. Make sense though...
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 20 2020, 01:38 PM)
Oh well... I'm always looking at long-term investment:
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And...

Resale value after 24 months:
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Hahaha, that's quite a good way of seeing it. Must admit there is some truth in that, although I do think iPhone resale values are not as high as they used to be smile.gif
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Apparently, another dealer is doing another pre-order has begun at RM2499 (still not official MY price)

https://www.soyacincau.com/2020/05/20/poco-...er-in-malaysia/

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Apparently, another dealer is doing another pre-order has begun at RM2499 (still not official MY price)

https://www.soyacincau.com/2020/05/20/poco-...er-in-malaysia/

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Ya, I think we are still expecting lower price point but at least this one is a hundred ringgit cheaper which is a good thing.
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Oh well... I'm always looking at long-term investment:
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And...

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Great analysis here, appreciate you taking the time to do this. Just want to point out that:

1) android now and a phone like poco f2 will definitely have longer lifespan assuming one is okay using it without continuous updates.

2) resale value of iphone also lately is not as great as it used to be (example iphone se 2 releasing, kinda disrupted the prices of iphone 8, iphone 7)
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My hypothesis:

This year is the cheapest iPhone SRP we can get.

Starting next year, once Mr. Timmy "migrate" their manufacturing outside of China, the "25% increase" SRP will be borne by the end-user.

Thanks to Donald "J"oker Trump for starting the Trade War with China. All Apple products price will sky-rocket next year.

As for Android platforms, we have plethora of choices especially mid-range prices.

Mr. Timmy's community will suffer next year onwards. So much for the eco-system strategy...

Hence, the demand for second-hand units "will" increase back again next year. So better buy the iPhone SE now and enjoy high resale value in year 2021 onwards...

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My hypothesis:

This year is the cheapest iPhone SRP we can get.

Starting next year, once Mr. Timmy "migrate" their manufacturing outside of China, the "25% increase" SRP will be borne by the end-user.

Thanks to Donald "J"oker Trump for starting the Trade War with China. All Apple products price will sky-rocket next year.

As for Android platforms, we have plethora of choices especially mid-range prices.

Mr. Timmy's community will suffer next year onwards. So much for the eco-system strategy...

Hence, the demand for second-hand units "will" increase back again next year. So better buy the iPhone SE now and enjoy high resale value in year 2021 onwards...
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Oh well... I'm always looking at long-term investment:
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And...

Resale value after 24 months:
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This is spot on. At that price, the iPhone SE is definitely a better option. The only downside is the screen, but most people can live with that.
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This is spot on. At that price, the iPhone SE is definitely a better option. The only downside is the screen, but most people can live with that.
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The best thing about the iPhone SE isn't the specs, but that the processor is well-equipped to run the next 4-5 years without any problems and that Apple will provide constant software updates. Hence how our bro Azhar's calculation on cost of ownership is derived smile.gif
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QUOTE(attw @ May 20 2020, 10:50 PM)
The best thing about the iPhone SE isn't the specs, but that the processor is well-equipped to run the next 4-5 years without any problems and that Apple will provide constant software updates. Hence how our bro Azhar's calculation on cost of ownership is derived smile.gif
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It’s not always about the specs, as I’ve learned bouncing back and forth between iOS and Android over the years. I’m on Android now but will be going back to iOS after my phone gives up. The SE is definitely an attractive mid-range phone with solid price.

The latest Pocophone lost it’s biggest selling point, which is the lowest price for a mid-range phone.
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QUOTE(Salary @ May 20 2020, 10:59 PM)
It’s not always about the specs, as I’ve learned bouncing back and forth between iOS and Android over the years. I’m on Android now but will be going back to iOS after my phone gives up. The SE is definitely an attractive mid-range phone with solid price.

The latest Pocophone lost it’s biggest selling point, which is the lowest price for a mid-range phone.
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Yeah, with the iPhone it's never about specs.

Anyways, let's see the official MY price when it launches here. One thing is for sure, it won't be RM1,2** as per the old Poco F1.
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Just got my k30 pro zoom this evening... Something is definitely off with this phone's battery performance.

Its kinda insane by my usage standard. All my previous phones had around 3000mah battery (biggest was Note8), but all of them can barely survive 3.5 hours SOT. But this phone is currently reaching 4hrs mark and still have 65 percent of battery charge. Sure the battery size is definitely bigger, but I didn't expect it to be this good.
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Just got my k30 pro zoom this evening... Something is definitely off with this phone's battery performance.

Its kinda insane by my usage standard. All my previous phones had around 3000mah battery (biggest was Note8), but all of them can barely survive 3.5 hours SOT. But this phone is currently reaching 4hrs mark and still have 65 percent of battery charge. Sure the battery size is definitely bigger, but I didn't expect it to be this good.
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Wait till you update it, MIUI is getting disappointing day by day with new each version.
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anyway accordingly to one of my regular website,
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pls note this website hv millions of unique user
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Wait till you update it, MIUI is getting disappointing day by day with new each version.
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 21 2020, 12:01 AM)
Just got my k30 pro zoom this evening... Something is definitely off with this phone's battery performance.

Its kinda insane by my usage standard. All my previous phones had around 3000mah battery (biggest was Note8), but all of them can barely survive 3.5 hours SOT. But this phone is currently reaching 4hrs mark and still have 65 percent of battery charge. Sure the battery size is definitely bigger, but I didn't expect it to be this good.
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So you've already got the K30 Pro Zoom which is a better version of the Poco F2 Pro already, hahaha. If Xiaomi made the Redmi K-series available globally then there really is no need for this rebranding exercise, hahaha..

In terms of battery life, yeah, that's kinda expected for a 4700mAh battery. That's why my minimum requirement when getting an Android phone is a 4000mAh battery - Anything below that isn't great for heavy usage laugh.gif I'm currently using the Realme 6 with a 4300mAh battery, also getting an average about 10% battery usage per every hour of SOT - and considering it's a 90hz refresh rate screen, that's pretty good smile.gif


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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ May 21 2020, 08:46 AM)
suddenly this thread become ifags vs idroid 😂

anyway accordingly to one of my regular website,
when they r build apps and compability...
they choose Android.
coz they did a stat, there r only 1/10 apple user...

pls note this website hv millions of unique user
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Really? I thought last time most devs prefer to develop iOS apps. So they have turned side now don't they.


QUOTE(attw @ May 21 2020, 09:06 AM)
So you've already got the K30 Pro Zoom which is a better version of the Poco F2 Pro already, hahaha. If Xiaomi made the Redmi K-series available globally then there really is no need for this rebranding exercise, hahaha..

In terms of battery life, yeah, that's kinda expected for a 4700mAh battery. That's why my minimum requirement when getting an Android phone is a 4000mAh battery - Anything below that isn't great for heavy usage laugh.gif I'm currently using the Realme 6 with a 4300mAh battery, also getting an average about 10% battery usage per every hour of SOT - and considering it's a 90hz refresh rate screen, that's pretty good smile.gif
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Agree. Kinda curious what is their intention with that kind of marketing approach.

90hz with 10% battery drain per hour, wow im really impressed! I think mine can survive 9hrs SOT more or less but I don't think all my previous phones can exceed 6hrs if they are given the same size of battery. And yeah 4000mah should be the minimum standard by now.

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Really? I thought last time most devs prefer to develop iOS apps. So they have turned side now don't they.
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tat is yesteryears stories,
previously Android user cheapskate always sideload app

nowadays dev smart, they build IAP...
can earn more than sell the whole app
more sustainable, can sell monthly add-on feature

and if gv free also can earn from ads
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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ May 21 2020, 10:55 AM)
tat is yesteryears stories,
previously Android user cheapskate always sideload app

nowadays dev smart, they build IAP...
can earn more than sell the whole app
more sustainable, can sell monthly add-on feature

and if gv free also can earn from ads
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I see. Then it's a good thing for android users. IAP is a smart move.

Fun fact: Cheapskates never die. Hahahahahahaha. I know a number of people who love to go to Starbucks every now and then but still refuse to pay android app that costs less than rm5.
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 21 2020, 10:15 AM)
90hz with 10% battery drain per hour, wow im really impressed! I think mine can survive 9hrs SOT more or less but I don't think all my previous phones can exceed 6hrs if they are given the same size of battery. And yeah 4000mah should be the minimum standard by now.
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Yeah, plus being indoors and using WiFi instead of LTE helps as well. I typically only use about 4-5 hours SOT in a day (anything more might constitute as antisocial behaviour, hahaha) but usage has increased a lot during the MCO. For me the acid test for phone battery is for it to be able to do 2 days (48 hours) standby and total of 10 hours SOT in that span. We call it the 10-hour SOT club, as founded by azhar75 smile.gif For me so far, I've tested 5 phones that made it into that club: Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1, Realme 5, Samsung S10 Lite, iPhone 11 Pro Max and Realme 6 smile.gif

QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 21 2020, 11:06 AM)
Fun fact: Cheapskates never die. Hahahahahahaha. I know a number of people who love to go to Starbucks every now and then but still refuse to pay android app that costs less than rm5.
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Sigh... Guilty as charged laugh.gif
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Yeah, plus being indoors and using WiFi instead of LTE helps as well. I typically only use about 4-5 hours SOT in a day (anything more might constitute as antisocial behaviour, hahaha) but usage has increased a lot during the MCO. For me the acid test for phone battery is for it to be able to do 2 days (48 hours) standby and total of 10 hours SOT in that span. We call it the 10-hour SOT club, as founded by azhar75 smile.gif For me so far, I've tested 5 phones that made it into that club: Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1, Realme 5, Samsung S10 Lite, iPhone 11 Pro Max and Realme 6 smile.gif
Sigh... Guilty as charged laugh.gif
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Lol didn't know such club even exist, wish I could join that club someday but I don't think it's possible with my usage pattern 😭
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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ May 21 2020, 10:55 AM)
tat is yesteryears stories,
previously Android user cheapskate always sideload app

nowadays dev smart, they build IAP...
can earn more than sell the whole app
more sustainable, can sell monthly add-on feature

and if gv free also can earn from ads
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yeah IAP is future.

Some developer even did the unethical move to adopt IAP.
One example is Cerberus security apps ( powerful ) which we paid for lifetime licence. End of last year, developer turned greedy and make the 'lifetime' license expired, and asked us to subscribe ranting.gif

QUOTE(attw @ May 21 2020, 11:21 AM)
Yeah, plus being indoors and using WiFi instead of LTE helps as well. I typically only use about 4-5 hours SOT in a day (anything more might constitute as antisocial behaviour, hahaha) but usage has increased a lot during the MCO. For me the acid test for phone battery is for it to be able to do 2 days (48 hours) standby and total of 10 hours SOT in that span. We call it the 10-hour SOT club, as founded by azhar75 smile.gif For me so far, I've tested 5 phones that made it into that club: Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1, Realme 5, Samsung S10 Lite, iPhone 11 Pro Max and Realme 6 smile.gif
Sigh... Guilty as charged laugh.gif
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Hmmm, so poco f1 not capable of joining 10 hours SOT club ? I can get 7 hours SOT on it, normal usage ( browsing website etc ) which are best so far in my smartphone life.
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 21 2020, 11:57 AM)
yeah IAP is future.

Some developer even did the unethical move to adopt IAP.
One example is Cerberus security apps ( powerful ) which we paid for lifetime licence. End of last year, developer turned greedy and make the 'lifetime' license expired, and asked us to subscribe  ranting.gif
Hmmm, so poco f1 not capable of joining 10 hours SOT club ? I can get 7 hours SOT on it, normal usage ( browsing website etc ) which are best so far in my smartphone life.
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I've never tried the Poco F1 bro. Maybe our bro azhar75 can shed some light here? smile.gif
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F1 "barely" registered as 10 SoT Club:
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 21 2020, 12:56 PM)
F1 "barely" registered as 10 SoT Club:
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Source
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Wow! Still considered made it to your 10 SoT club rclxms.gif

So morale of the story, need to flash EU ROM for it to have better consumption?

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Wow! Still considered made it to your 10 SoT club rclxms.gif

So morale of the story, need to flash EU ROM for it to have better consumption?
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Apparently, yes; becoz stock ROM is heavily having "nuisance activities" running in the background....
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Apparently, yes; becoz stock ROM is heavily having "nuisance activities" running in the background....
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Ahh, OK. Looks like this EU ROM is quite a miracle worker then. Yeah, that's why I'm not a big fan of stock MIUI, lots of "nuisance activity" in the background as you put it laugh.gif
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Because we can’t get enough of Pocos laugh.gif

https://www.gsmarena.com/poco_m2_pro_spotte...-news-43337.php

M2 Pro pulak...
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Because we can’t get enough of Pocos laugh.gif

https://www.gsmarena.com/poco_m2_pro_spotte...-news-43337.php

M2 Pro pulak...
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Semua nak jadi Pro susah lah macam ni... I wonder which model are they going to take after for rebranding.
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Semua nak jadi Pro susah lah macam ni... I wonder which model are they going to take after for rebranding.
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That article mentioned could be a rebranding of the Redmi Note 9 Pro. Hahaha.. whatever rocks their boat biggrin.gif
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That article mentioned could be a rebranding of the Redmi Note 9 Pro. Hahaha.. whatever rocks their boat biggrin.gif
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Missed the last paragraph doh.gif.. Same move like f2 pro? Add support for LTE B20, have the Google play store preinstalled, change logo and model name, and lastly mark up the price 10% - 20%. Done. Here's the M2 Pro for all to enjoy. Yay.
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It's their strategy to get rid off the SoCs/inventory quickly... By creating many sub-brands & models, buyers are fooled to believe there are "many" choices in the market.

Plus, by pushing the new so-called "model", they can put the SRP higher than the previous model launched 3 months ago, despite of identical internal components.

Hence, the breakdown of 100% inventory is :
25% inventory goes to Mi branding...
10% inventory goes to Blackshark branding...
40% inventory goes to Redmi branding...
25% inventory goes to Poco branding...

Therefore,
If Redmi series (launched 3 months ago) have outstanding inventory, just transfer the inventory to Poco account and sell at new or higher price.

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Apparently, yes; becoz stock ROM is heavily having "nuisance activities" running in the background....
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Brother, that means our Malaysia set ROM (is it global ROM?) is totally different from EU ROM?

Can you explain more further in details and the different between our Malaysia set ROM and EU ROM?

Are the Mi browser, Mi player and all Mi related apps not pre-installed in EU ROM?
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Ahh, OK. Looks like this EU ROM is quite a miracle worker then. Yeah, that's why I'm not a big fan of stock MIUI, lots of "nuisance activity" in the background as you put it laugh.gif
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Maybe that's why my previous Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 battery was draining quite fast.
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Ahh, OK. Looks like this EU ROM is quite a miracle worker then. Yeah, that's why I'm not a big fan of stock MIUI, lots of "nuisance activity" in the background as you put it laugh.gif
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Its a group of devs deserve the credit here for bringing in the customised EU Rom. Not xiaomi for sticking the ads and bloatful apps in the phone lol.

QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 22 2020, 05:37 AM)
Maybe that's why my previous Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 battery was draining quite fast.
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Globat set?
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Its a group of devs deserve the credit here for bringing in the customised EU Rom. Not xiaomi for sticking the ads and bloatful apps in the phone lol.
Globat set?
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That means the EU ROM is not a official ROM from Xiaomi?
The user needs to flash the ROM himself into the phone?
Thus no official warranty for the phone after flash it?

It was a Malaysia set with global version written on the box.
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 22 2020, 12:36 AM)
It's their strategy to get rid off the SoCs/inventory quickly... By creating many sub-brands & models, buyers are fooled to believe there are "many" choices in the market.

Plus, by pushing the new so-called "model", they can put the SRP higher than the previous model launched 3 months ago, despite of identical internal components.

Hence, the breakdown of 100% inventory is :
25% inventory goes to Mi branding...
10% inventory goes to Blackshark branding...
40% inventory goes to Redmi branding...
25% inventory goes to Poco branding...

Therefore,
If Redmi series (launched 3 months ago) have outstanding inventory, just transfer the inventory to Poco account and sell at new or higher price.
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I think they've moved the Mi branding to premium, leaving the Redmi and Poco branding for the entry level and midrange market. The Blackshark is a niche by itself. The other thing about having so many models is that they end up cannibalising each other, so maybe in places where there is the Poco, the Redmi K series won't be present.

QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 22 2020, 05:37 AM)
Maybe that's why my previous Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 battery was draining quite fast.
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How old is your RN7? Mine is about a year old and the battery is still very good. Standby drain at night is only 3-4%.

QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 22 2020, 08:14 AM)
Its a group of devs deserve the credit here for bringing in the customised EU Rom. Not xiaomi for sticking the ads and bloatful apps in the phone lol.
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Yeah, that's why Xiaomi can't convince me to spend top dollar on their phones yet. I'm not a fan of the bloatware and ads laugh.gif

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QUOTE(attw @ May 21 2020, 04:29 PM)
Wow! Still considered made it to your 10 SoT club rclxms.gif

So morale of the story, need to flash EU ROM for it to have better consumption?
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Does these make it into the 10 sot club? sad.gif

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That means the EU ROM is not a official ROM from Xiaomi?
The user needs to flash the ROM himself into the phone?
Thus no official warranty for the phone after flash it?

It was a Malaysia set with global version written on the box.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, EU ROM is based on China stable weekly build ROM. You need to unlock bootloader and flash the ROM from TWRP to get it running. It's a customised ROM built by a group of European devs.

Unlike other custom ROMs, it seems that xiaomi and their European distributors have a special policy on this one particular EU ROM when it comes to warranty.

Since warranty is the least bit of worry on my end, you might want to find it out yourself. I don't think warranty policies in Europe and Malaysia are the same when it comes to Xiaomi EU. Perhaps others can shed some light on this?

The real official stock ROMs from xiaomi for European users are either Global ROM or EEA ROM.
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QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 22 2020, 05:35 AM)
Brother, that means our Malaysia set ROM (is it global ROM?) is totally different from EU ROM?

Can you explain more further in details and the different between our Malaysia set ROM and EU ROM?

Are the Mi browser, Mi player and all Mi related apps not pre-installed in EU ROM?
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(1) Malaysia Set is not having the EU ROM. Malaysia set comes with Global ROM.

(2) The difference as follows :
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(3) EU ROM still keeping the following system apps:
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As the system apps are still present, I myself take my own initiative to further reduce some "background activities" by tweaking settings below:
(a) Enable Smart Scenes options.
(b) Disable access to Device ID.
© Disable Unrestricted Data for all System Apps.
(d) Disable Usage Access to all System Apps.
(e) Disable Authorization & Revocation for all System Apps.

All in all, the EU ROM has some effects to the background activities but not enough to prevent other nuisance. Therefore, user still need to tweak around further to minimize other background activities.

QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 22 2020, 08:35 AM)
That means the EU ROM is not a official ROM from Xiaomi?
The user needs to flash the ROM himself into the phone?
Thus no official warranty for the phone after flash it?

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(1) EU (Europe) ROM is NOT official from Xiaomi; just like other custom ROMs in XDA community.

(2) Yes, the user needs to unlock the Bootloader (the official & legal method via Mi website) in order to be able to flash EU ROM.

(3) As highlighted below :
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All in all, MIUI is well known for its rouge background activities since MIUI version 1. If the user can bare the "nuisance", no harm to proceed with the stock MIUI. It's how Xiaomi makes money and sustain the SRP to be "affordable" and reaching the "Flagship Killer" title.

Xiaomi awares users can flash stock ROM to other custom ROMs and loses the cash from the "background activities" in stock MIUI. There was a time they block the unlock Bootloader to prevent user flash custom ROMs. But backlash from their fans reverse that decision.

As for me, for the past 5 Xiaomi devices, I only flash EU ROM immediately once the ROM is released. No turning back and won't try other custom ROMs. You can nominate me as the No. 1 Fan for EU ROM...LOL...

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I think they've moved the Mi branding to premium, leaving the Redmi and Poco branding for the entry level and midrange market. The Blackshark is a niche by itself. The other thing about having so many models is that they end up cannibalising each other, so maybe in places where there is the Poco, the Redmi K series won't be present.
How old is your RN7? Mine is about a year old and the battery is still very good. Standby drain at night is only 3-4%.
Yeah, that's why Xiaomi can't convince me to spend too dollar on their phones yet. I'm not a fan of the bloatware and ads laugh.gif
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Almost 8 months already. Standby drain at night is the same with you.

QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 22 2020, 09:20 AM)
Correct me if I'm wrong, EU ROM is based on China stable weekly build ROM. You need to unlock bootloader and flash the ROM from TWRP to get it running. It's a customised ROM built by a group of European devs.

Unlike other custom ROMs, it seems that xiaomi and their European distributors have a special policy on this one particular EU ROM when it comes to warranty.

Since warranty is the least bit of worry on my end, you might want to find it out yourself. I don't think warranty policies in Europe and Malaysia are the same when it comes to Xiaomi EU. Perhaps others can shed some light on this?

The real official stock ROMs from xiaomi for European users are either Global ROM or EEA ROM.
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I see. Thanks for the explanation. 😊
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(1) Malaysia Set is not having the EU ROM. Malaysia set comes with Global ROM.

(2) The difference as follows :
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(3) EU ROM still keeping the following system apps:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


As the system apps are still present, I myself take my own initiative to further reduce some "background activities" by tweaking settings below:
(a) Enable Smart Scenes options.
(b) Disable access to Device ID.
© Disable Unrestricted Data for all System Apps.
(d) Disable Usage Access to all System Apps.
(e) Disable Authorization & Revocation for all System Apps.

All in all, the EU ROM has some effects to the background activities but not enough to prevent other nuisance. Therefore, user still need to tweak around further to minimize other background activities.
(1) EU (Europe) ROM is NOT official from Xiaomi; just like other custom ROMs in XDA community.

(2) Yes, the user needs to unlock the Bootloader (the official & legal method via Mi website) in order to be able to flash EU ROM.

(3) As highlighted below :
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


All in all, MIUI is well known for its rouge background activities since MIUI version 1. If the user can bare the "nuisance", no harm to proceed with the stock MIUI. It's how Xiaomi makes money and sustain the SRP to be "affordable" and reaching the "Flagship Killer" title.

Xiaomi awares users can flash stock ROM to other custom ROMs and loses the cash from the "background activities" in stock MIUI. There was a time they block the unlock Bootloader to prevent user flash custom ROMs. But backlash from their fans reverse that decision.

As for me, for the past 5 Xiaomi devices, I only flash EU ROM immediately once the ROM is released. No turning back and won't try other custom ROMs. You can nominate me as the No. 1 Fan for EU ROM...LOL...
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Thanks for your professional explanation. 😊

Do you use any trading apps in your Xiaomi device?
I have one. But after using for 2 week, the app will automatically sign off itself after I use it for 30 minutes, it shows session expired on the display there.

Do you have any idea how to solve this problem?


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Starting from MIUI 10, Poco's EU ROM is based on stable Chinese ROM. This is due to instability of weekly Chinese ROM tends to brick the device and common bootloop issue.

In terms of local Malaysia warranty, just flash back to global ROM before sending to the Service Center. No need to lock back the Bootloader. This is based on my experience for one of Xiaomi device having screen burning earlier.
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QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 22 2020, 09:57 AM)
Thanks for your professional explanation. 😊

Do you use any trading apps in your Xiaomi device?
I have one. But after using for 2 week, the app will automatically sign off itself after I use it for 30 minutes, it shows session expired on the display there.

Do you have any idea how to solve this problem?
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No trading apps in my F1 EU ROM.

You may try the following :
(1) Search for "System Apps" menu to disable their access to cellular Data.

(2) Disable Device ID access:
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(3) Enable Smart Scenes:
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(4) Disable all Authorization & Revocation :
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All the above tweaking are to reserve the resources to your Trading Apps. Rather than the System Apps taking all the resources, tweaking above will free up some resources for your Trading app to continue running happily.

On top of that, do the followings:
(1) Set "No restrictions" to the Trading App
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(2) Lock the Trading App so that it can constantly running in the Background
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(3) Enable "Auto Start" to the Trading App
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(4) Turn on "Unrestricted Data" to the Trading App
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Yeah, that's why Xiaomi can't convince me to spend too dollar on their phones yet. I'm not a fan of the bloatware and ads laugh.gif
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Bloatware is one thing, but ads... But since they need it to compensate their lower priced product and they also offer eu version, I can turn a blind eye on that. Haha.
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Yeah, that's why Xiaomi can't convince me to spend top dollar on their phones yet. I'm not a fan of the bloatware and ads laugh.gif
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Me too. Not in a gazillion years I'm gonna cash out to their latest top of the line product series...

Why spend >RM3000 when we can get better deals from Sammy's or Mr. Timmy's last year flagship series...

I won't spend more than RM1500 for Xiaomi products. The latest one I bought was Xiaomi Enchen Boost for <RM50... LOL...
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Does these make it into the 10 sot club? sad.gif

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Thanks for the detailed explanation bro. Seems like still a fair bit of system apps that aren't removed with the EU ROM. Looks like the Mi A× series is the only way to experience Mi devices without the heavy handed apps and ads.

QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 22 2020, 10:25 AM)
Bloatware is one thing, but ads... But since they need it to compensate their lower priced product and they also offer eu version, I can turn a blind eye on that. Haha.
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Exactly bro. Since they want to play at the premium field with their latest Mi 10 with the likes of Samsung and OnePlus, they have to give that kinda ad free experience too.

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I think they've moved the Mi branding to premium, leaving the Redmi and Poco branding for the entry level and midrange market. The Blackshark is a niche by itself. The other thing about having so many models is that they end up cannibalising each other, so maybe in places where there is the Poco, the Redmi K series won't be present.
How old is your RN7? Mine is about a year old and the battery is still very good. Standby drain at night is only 3-4%.
Yeah, that's why Xiaomi can't convince me to spend top dollar on their phones yet. I'm not a fan of the bloatware and ads laugh.gif
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Mostly marketing strategy, creating illusion that consumer have lots of choice, as most consumer are not tech enthusiast like us lurking in forum tongue.gif
Market are huge, thus creating more model just to fill up 'illusion of choices' should work. ie if 3 out of 5 choices are under your company albeit different name/model, you still wins as 60% chances biggrin.gif

You walked in to store and presented with 5 choices within your budget and requirement, different model and brand, consumer will have the illusion that whatever they choose in the end ( or recommended by sales ) are best among five laugh.gif
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No trading apps in my F1 EU ROM.

You may try the following :
(1) Search for "System Apps" menu to disable their access to cellular Data.

(2) Disable Device ID access:
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(3) Enable Smart Scenes:
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(4) Disable all Authorization & Revocation :
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All the above tweaking are to reserve the resources to your Trading Apps. Rather than the System Apps taking all the resources, tweaking above will free up some resources for your Trading app to continue running happily.

On top of that, do the followings:
(1) Set "No restrictions" to the Trading App
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(2) Lock the Trading App so that it can constantly running in the Background
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(3) Enable "Auto Start" to the Trading App
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(4) Turn on "Unrestricted Data" to the Trading App
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Does these make it into the 10 sot club? sad.gif

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Not dual-SIM active, auto-disqualify... LOL...

But,...

Usage is almost 2 days, very good...

By "discounting" the Facebook (1 hour 13 minutes) and Instagram (46 minutes) apps, we can "allow" the 10 SoT Club enrollment... LOL...

Just ensure not to leave the battery level below 15%. Else, the cells will dry faster and shorter lifespan...

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Mostly marketing strategy, creating illusion that consumer have lots of choice, as most consumer are not tech enthusiast like us lurking in forum  tongue.gif
Market are huge, thus creating more model just to fill up 'illusion of choices' should work. ie if 3 out of 5 choices are under your company albeit different name/model, you still wins as 60% chances  biggrin.gif

You walked in to store and presented with 5 choices within your budget and requirement, different model and brand, consumer will have the illusion that whatever they choose in the end ( or recommended by sales ) are best among five  laugh.gif
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Exactly bro. Since they want to play at the premium field with their latest Mi 10 with the likes of Samsung and OnePlus, they have to give that kinda ad free experience too.
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 22 2020, 10:44 AM)
Not dual-SIM active, auto-disqualify... LOL...

But,...

Usage is almost 2 days, very good...

By "discounting" the Facebook (1 hour 13 minutes) and Instagram (46 minutes) apps, we can "allow" the 10 SoT Club enrollment... LOL...

Just ensure not to leave the battery level below 15%. Else, the cells will dry faster and shorter lifespan...
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Hahaha, yeah, I do it only once with the phone to see if it can achieve after that I charge every night, even if got more than 50% balance smile.gif
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 22 2020, 10:44 AM)
Not dual-SIM active, auto-disqualify... LOL...

But,...

Usage is almost 2 days, very good...

By "discounting" the Facebook (1 hour 13 minutes) and Instagram (46 minutes) apps, we can "allow" the 10 SoT Club enrollment... LOL...

Just ensure not to leave the battery level below 15%. Else, the cells will dry faster and shorter lifespan...
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Yes! Hahaha , was just fooling around with ya.

Those were from my ROG phone 2 on 120hz mode too!.

Anyway I'm looking forward to the new owners of Poco F2 , wanna see some first impressions , especially battery as F1's battery life was quite insane.
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Yes! Hahaha , was just fooling around with ya.

Those were from my ROG phone 2 on 120hz mode too!.

Anyway I'm looking forward to the new owners of Poco F2 , wanna see some first impressions , especially battery as F1's battery life was quite insane.
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Whoaaa... ROG Phone 2 got 6000mAh battery bro... I think beyond 10 hours SOT also no problem. Is there an option for 90hz instead of 120hz refresh rate?

Ahhh, but yes, that is a question for another thread. I'm looking forward to the F2 Pro local launch too, but whether I get one or not depends on the local pricing they set smile.gif
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Whoaaa... ROG Phone 2 got 6000mAh battery bro... I think beyond 10 hours SOT also no problem. Is there an option for 90hz instead of 120hz refresh rate?

Ahhh, but yes, that is a question for another thread. I'm looking forward to the F2 Pro local launch too, but whether I get one or not depends on the local pricing they set smile.gif
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about what price, you will consider buying F2 pro ?  hmm.gif
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RM1,999 is a must buy. Anything above that will need consideration smile.gif

How about you, bro? Planning to get one?
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RM1,999 is a must buy. Anything above that will need consideration smile.gif

How about you, bro? Planning to get one?
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Below rm2k I think near impossible sad.gif EUR499

TBH I have almost no reason to change phone now, current phone Mi9T fits all my requirement and so far no complaint at all.
Just one reason I'll consider is my phone almost 1 year old. I usually change/sold phone before warranty end ( usually 1 year ), for better price. Calculated behavior laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 22 2020, 11:40 PM)
Below rm2k I think near impossible  sad.gif  EUR499

TBH I have almost no reason to change phone now, current phone Mi9T fits all my requirement and so far no complaint at all.
Just one reason I'll consider is my phone almost 1 year old. I usually change/sold phone before warranty end ( usually 1 year ), for better price. Calculated behavior  laugh.gif
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Well our phones here are typically cheaper than EU pricing so there is some hope, even if it's just a fool's hope, hahaha.. I'm expecting 2,299 or 2,399, then we'll have to wait and see if there's any pre-order discounts or offers.

Yeah, selling off your device while still under warranty is far easier and less hassle smile.gif
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Well our phones here are typically cheaper than EU pricing so there is some hope, even if it's just a fool's hope, hahaha.. I'm expecting 2,299 or 2,399, then we'll have to wait and see if there's any pre-order discounts or offers.

Yeah, selling off your device while still under warranty is far easier and less hassle smile.gif
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Yeah, see what offer they have for pre-order.
If this launch much nearer to year end, then cantik lo, shopee/lazada sales with discount voucher etc biggrin.gif
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Yeah, see what offer they have for pre-order.
If this launch much nearer to year end, then cantik lo, shopee/lazada sales with discount voucher etc  biggrin.gif
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By year end they'll have the Redmi 10X or whatever with 5G connection. Maybe by then the Poco F2 Pro will cost below RM2K smile.gif
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Yeah, see what offer they have for pre-order.
If this launch much nearer to year end, then cantik lo, shopee/lazada sales with discount voucher etc  biggrin.gif
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By year end they'll have the Redmi 10X or whatever with 5G connection. Maybe by then the Poco F2 Pro will cost below RM2K smile.gif
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Im convinced by year end f2p is already out of sight and something else is within the reach of your eyes 😜
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Im convinced by year end f2p is already out of sight and something else is within the reach of your eyes 😜
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Hahaha, yeah, Xiaomi and Realme are in a little contest between themselves to see who can release more phones into the market in the shortest amount of time possible biggrin.gif
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Im convinced by year end f2p is already out of sight and something else is within the reach of your eyes 😜
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Hahaha, yeah, Xiaomi and Realme are in a little contest between themselves to see who can release more phones into the market in the shortest amount of time possible biggrin.gif
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end of the year, my aim will be OnePlus's launch, they should still remain the half year release cycle. Either aim whatever next gen OP, or wait OP8 or OP7T Pro to dropped to comfortable price range biggrin.gif
Wonder if xiaomi will also have Mi10T ( successor to my current mi9T ) hmm.gif

Also, yeah if F2 Pro price dropped below rm2k by then, should be good buy.
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Hahaha, yeah, Xiaomi and Realme are in a little contest between themselves to see who can release more phones into the market in the shortest amount of time possible biggrin.gif
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From Mi 10 Pro to 1+ 8 Pro, to Poco, I really hold my trigger now and opt for a personal laptop. lol
Phone could be dragged to next year.
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I'm surprised this thread can reach #210 post for a phone that nobody in this thread owns yet lol





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Hahaha, yeah, Xiaomi and Realme are in a little contest between themselves to see who can release more phones into the market in the shortest amount of time possible biggrin.gif
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Realme is getting better, while xiaomi is slowly following oneplus footstep.

QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 23 2020, 10:10 PM)
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end of the year, my aim will be OnePlus's launch, they should still remain the half year release cycle. Either aim whatever next gen OP, or wait OP8 or OP7T Pro to dropped to comfortable price range  biggrin.gif
Wonder if xiaomi will also have Mi10T ( successor to my current mi9T )  hmm.gif

Also, yeah if F2 Pro price dropped below rm2k by then, should be good buy.
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I'm hoping op8 will drop a lot more, cause I find op7 pro is holding their own price pretty well.

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I'm surprised this thread can reach #210 post for a phone that nobody in this thread owns yet lol




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I bet people won't talk about it much if they put the price above rm2.5k.

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Realme is getting better, while xiaomi is slowly following oneplus footstep.
I'm hoping op8 will drop a lot more, cause I find op7 pro is holding their own price pretty well.
I bet people won't talk about it much if they put the price above rm2.5k.
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Xiaomi is slowly following One+ ?

Can you explain further?
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Xiaomi is slowly following One+ ?

Can you explain further?
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In terms of pricing I mean. They are just getting more expensive.
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In terms of pricing I mean. They are just getting more expensive.
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I see.

In my opinion, it is a trend for all phone makers this year onwards including realme too.
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I see.

In my opinion, it is a trend for all phone makers this year onwards including realme too.
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Yeah, it's a sickening trend to most consumer. I just hope realme won't step into premium price zone but I cant see that won't happen.
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Yeah, it's a sickening trend to most consumer. I just hope realme won't step into premium price zone but I cant see that won't happen.
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Actually realme already stepped into the zone.

Look at the RRP for realme 6, 4GB RAM + 128GB ROM version, is same with SAMSUNG Galaxy A31.

Now just left Redmi has not entered the zone yet.
The RRP for Xiaomi Redmi Note 9, 4GB RAM + 128GB ROM is RM749.
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Actually realme already stepped into the zone.

Look at the RRP for realme 6, 4GB RAM + 128GB ROM version, is same with SAMSUNG Galaxy A31.

Now just left Redmi has not entered the zone yet.
The RRP for Xiaomi Redmi Note 9, 4GB RAM + 128GB ROM is RM749.
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I see I see.
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From Mi 10 Pro to 1+ 8 Pro, to Poco, I really hold my trigger now and opt for a personal laptop. lol
Phone could be dragged to next year.
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Phones are just going to keep getting pricier every year I guess. The best deals will be to buy last year's flagship phones this year smile.gif

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I'm surprised this thread can reach #210 post for a phone that nobody in this thread owns yet lol
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Ok ma, shows that a lot of people interested in the phone smile.gif

QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 24 2020, 12:07 AM)
Realme is getting better, while xiaomi is slowly following oneplus footstep.
I'm hoping op8 will drop a lot more, cause I find op7 pro is holding their own price pretty well.
I bet people won't talk about it much if they put the price above rm2.5k.
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I agree, the Realme 6 is such a big step up from the Realme 5. Looking forward to their X3 Super Zoom launch next week. I'm guessing it will be around 2499-2599, as a successor to the X2 Pro. OP phones generally don't drop that much in prices until after the next gen ones are released. The 8/256 OP7 Pro is quite a bargain now for RM2399. But the loyal and old time supporters remain unhappy with OP for losing their flagship killer mojo and joining the premium players laugh.gif

I'd love to try the OP8 Pro at some point too. But not at the current RRP!

QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 24 2020, 03:36 AM)
In my opinion, it is a trend for all phone makers this year onwards including realme too.
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Well, Realme hasn't released a RM3k phone yet, so that's good!
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Xiaomi is slowly following One+ ?

Can you explain further?
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Yeah, it's a sickening trend to most consumer. I just hope realme won't step into premium price zone but I cant see that won't happen.
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Inevitable, as manufacturers keep improved on design/quality etc, xiaomi even without stupid-Qualcomm-forced-5G, already near flagship phone price last year.
Same as OnePlus, build quality, features and camera etc keep getting better.
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 24 2020, 11:31 AM)
Inevitable, as manufacturers keep improved on design/quality etc, xiaomi even without stupid-Qualcomm-forced-5G, already near flagship phone price last year.
Same as OnePlus, build quality, features and camera etc keep getting better.
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Ya, a big part of the reason why SD865 phones are so pricey is Qualcomm forcing 5G down everyone's throat with that chipset laugh.gif
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Phones are just going to keep getting pricier every year I guess. The best deals will be to buy last year's flagship phones this year smile.gif
Ok ma, shows that a lot of people interested in the phone smile.gif
I agree, the Realme 6 is such a big step up from the Realme 5. Looking forward to their X3 Super Zoom launch next week. I'm guessing it will be around 2499-2599, as a successor to the X2 Pro. OP phones generally don't drop that much in prices until after the next gen ones are released. The 8/256 OP7 Pro is quite a bargain now for RM2399. But the loyal and old time supporters remain unhappy with OP for losing their flagship killer mojo and joining the premium players laugh.gif

I'd love to try the OP8 Pro at some point too. But not at the current RRP!
Well, Realme hasn't released a RM3k phone yet, so that's good!
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I think they will keep that piece of market for oppo.

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 24 2020, 11:31 AM)
Inevitable, as manufacturers keep improved on design/quality etc, xiaomi even without stupid-Qualcomm-forced-5G, already near flagship phone price last year.
Same as OnePlus, build quality, features and camera etc keep getting better.
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QUOTE(attw @ May 24 2020, 11:39 AM)
Ya, a big part of the reason why SD865 phones are so pricey is Qualcomm forcing 5G down everyone's throat with that chipset laugh.gif
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Maybe they can opt for the chipset from MediaTek.

I read an article said that HONOR also is going to get the chipset from MediaTek for some of their phones in the future.
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I think they will keep that piece of market for oppo.
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Yeah, true. Hopefully it'll stay that way smile.gif

QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 24 2020, 11:49 AM)
Maybe they can opt for the chipset from MediaTek.

I read an article said that HONOR also is going to get the chipset from MediaTek for some of their phones in the future.
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Good point. If more phone makers start going with Mediatek as a cheaper option then it will be interesting. But to the mind of many consumers, flagship = SD8** series chipset smile.gif

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Phones are just going to keep getting pricier every year I guess. The best deals will be to buy last year's flagship phones this year smile.gif
Ok ma, shows that a lot of people interested in the phone smile.gif
I agree, the Realme 6 is such a big step up from the Realme 5. Looking forward to their X3 Super Zoom launch next week. I'm guessing it will be around 2499-2599, as a successor to the X2 Pro. OP phones generally don't drop that much in prices until after the next gen ones are released. The 8/256 OP7 Pro is quite a bargain now for RM2399. But the loyal and old time supporters remain unhappy with OP for losing their flagship killer mojo and joining the premium players laugh.gif

I'd love to try the OP8 Pro at some point too. But not at the current RRP!
Well, Realme hasn't released a RM3k phone yet, so that's good!
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Yep, totally agree! With the right pricing, I find the realme x3 super zoom has a quite specific market segment. Its like a playmaker/keyplayer that will push realme higher in the smartphone competition.

QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 24 2020, 11:31 AM)
Inevitable, as manufacturers keep improved on design/quality etc, xiaomi even without stupid-Qualcomm-forced-5G, already near flagship phone price last year.
Same as OnePlus, build quality, features and camera etc keep getting better.
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Inevitable indeed. I'm blaming Qualcomm here for dominating the flagships market but there's no denying that their performance is leading against the competition. Us consumers have always to milk more money 💸💸 to keep up with the trend.

QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 24 2020, 11:49 AM)
Maybe they can opt for the chipset from MediaTek.

I read an article said that HONOR also is going to get the chipset from MediaTek for some of their phones in the future.
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Hope mediatek will do better in future. Eventhough the performance is quite good, their current lineup is just not flash friendly. But thats just me and a bunch of modders who just love to fully utilise and customise our android phones to a wider extent, and I think our percentage in the market is almost negligible.
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As for me, I can't accept MTK becoz GCam is not 100% compatible ... So, still relying on Snap series in the end, and especially the ones that Google Pixel 5 is rumored to use (Snap 765G or 768G)...
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Yeah, true. Hopefully it'll stay that way smile.gif
Good point. If more phone makers start going with Mediatek as a cheaper option then it will be interesting. But to the mind of many consumers, flagship = SD8** series chipset smile.gif
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I believe MediaTek also can make a great flagship chipset soon as more and more people using their chipsets.

QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 24 2020, 12:15 PM)
Yep, totally agree! With the right pricing, I find the realme x3 super zoom has a quite specific market segment. Its like a playmaker/keyplayer that will push realme higher in the smartphone competition.
Inevitable indeed. I'm blaming Qualcomm here for dominating the flagships market but there's no denying that their performance is leading against the competition. Us consumers have always to milk more money 💸💸 to keep up with the trend.
Hope mediatek will do better in future. Eventhough the performance is quite good, their current lineup is just not flash friendly. But thats just me and a bunch of modders who just love to fully utilise and customise our android phones to a wider extent, and I think our percentage in the market is almost negligible.
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When more and more people are going to use MediaTek chipsets, then the developers will go to create more custom ROM and make it easier to flash in the future.

Just need some time only.

QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 24 2020, 01:28 PM)
As for me, I can't accept MTK becoz GCam is not 100% compatible ... So, still relying on Snap series in the end, and especially the ones that Google Pixel 5 is rumored to use (Snap 765G or 768G)...
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Maybe in the future, Google will make GCam compatible with MediaTek chipsets when he saw more users using their chipsets.
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Yep, totally agree! With the right pricing, I find the realme x3 super zoom has a quite specific market segment. Its like a playmaker/keyplayer that will push realme higher in the smartphone competition.
Inevitable indeed. I'm blaming Qualcomm here for dominating the flagships market but there's no denying that their performance is leading against the competition. Us consumers have always to milk more money 💸💸 to keep up with the trend.
Hope mediatek will do better in future. Eventhough the performance is quite good, their current lineup is just not flash friendly. But thats just me and a bunch of modders who just love to fully utilise and customise our android phones to a wider extent, and I think our percentage in the market is almost negligible.
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 24 2020, 01:28 PM)
As for me, I can't accept MTK becoz GCam is not 100% compatible ... So, still relying on Snap series in the end, and especially the ones that Google Pixel 5 is rumored to use (Snap 765G or 768G)...
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Right, that's one setback using MTK instead of SD for now, G-Cam support. I've been using the Realme 6 with the G90T chipset for a couple of months now and I have no complaints in terms of energy efficiency, performance, network reception and GPS signal strength. They've certainly come a long way. Looking forward to test their Dimensity series chipset when it gets here smile.gif
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GSMArena's poll concluded that most people prefer the Poco of old... drop the 5G and drop the price smile.gif

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I believe MediaTek also can make a great flagship chipset soon as more and more people using their chipsets.
When more and more people are going to use MediaTek chipsets, then the developers will go to create more custom ROM and make it easier to flash in the future.

Just need some time only.
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MediaTek has been around for quite some time so I highly doubt that is going to happen anytime soon. Maybe not in the next 5 years. They don't even have fastboot mode in case when the device goes wrong. Hopefully they will change this soon.
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Phones are just going to keep getting pricier every year I guess. The best deals will be to buy last year's flagship phones this year smile.gif
Well, Realme hasn't released a RM3k phone yet, so that's good!
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Last year flagship is POCO F1 cool2.gif

QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 24 2020, 11:49 AM)
Maybe they can opt for the chipset from MediaTek.

I read an article said that HONOR also is going to get the chipset from MediaTek for some of their phones in the future.
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I think MediaTek most success processor to date is Redmi Note 8 PRO, their selling price is higher than Redmi Note 8 (SD)
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Last year flagship is POCO F1  cool2.gif
I think MediaTek most success processor to date is Redmi Note 8 PRO, their selling price is higher than Redmi Note 8 (SD)
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GSMArena's poll concluded that most people prefer the Poco of old... drop the 5G and drop the price smile.gif

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What did you vote for bro? I would vote the light blue if you ask me tongue.gif
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with the resemblance why not redmi k30 pro?
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What did you vote for bro? I would vote the light blue if you ask me  tongue.gif
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with the resemblance why not redmi k30 pro?
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Got myself a k30 pro zoom edition and live happily ever after... Or perhaps a year or two haha.

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Haha, I voted the same laugh.gif
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MediaTek has been around for quite some time so I highly doubt that is going to happen anytime soon. Maybe not in the next 5 years. They don't even have fastboot mode in case when the device goes wrong. Hopefully they will change this soon.
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You are right.
MediaTek has been around for quite a long time.

But the situation has started to change when President Trump banned HUAWEI last year.

More phone manufacturers started to ditch Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets and went to use MediaTek chipsets.

Now even HUAWEI's sub-brand, HONOR also will join the club.

I believe it's a good timing for MediaTek now to speed up in the innovations and provide more features because more money has come in now.
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You are right.
MediaTek has been around for quite a long time.

But the situation has started to change when President Trump banned HUAWEI last year.

More phone manufacturers started to ditch Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets and went to use MediaTek chipsets.

Now even HUAWEI's sub-brand, HONOR also will join the club.

I believe it's a good timing for MediaTek now to speed up in the innovations and provide more features because more money has come in now.
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True. Let's see how the trade war unfolds. Trump really enjoys to give people a lot of headaches doesn't he sweat.gif. If things go well then this might be a good chance for mediatek to step up to show what they are capable of icon_idea.gif
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True. Let's see how the trade war unfolds. Trump really enjoys to give people a lot of headaches doesn't he sweat.gif. If things go well then this might be a good chance for mediatek to step up to show what they are capable of icon_idea.gif
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Risks are chances also for everybody. icon_idea.gif
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mediatek same as tsmc, both r Taiwanese company
US will hv a hand on it if they wanted
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True. Let's see how the trade war unfolds. Trump really enjoys to give people a lot of headaches doesn't he sweat.gif. If things go well then this might be a good chance for mediatek to step up to show what they are capable of icon_idea.gif
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Ya, the situation with Trump is volatile even for US tech companies with heavy investments in China as China is considering to retaliate with their own entity list. Hopefully in November, they will vote for Biden instead.
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u all don't shiok sendiri...
mediatek same as tsmc, both r Taiwanese company
US will hv a hand on it if they wanted
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That's one more thing that I'm worried of sweat.gif... Seeing how TSMC has agreed to setup their 5nm manufacturing plan in the US, I can just imagine how the smartphone price will rise even further cry.gif If other manufacturing companies follow suit, then... I don't even what to say lol

QUOTE(attw @ May 25 2020, 09:10 AM)
Ya, the situation with Trump is volatile even for US tech companies with heavy investments in China as China is considering to retaliate with their own entity list. Hopefully in November, they will vote for Biden instead.
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Things don't look good on trump side if the survey/finding (or whatever it is, can't recall it) from CNN is true. Let the votes go for Uncle Joe please!
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That's one more thing that I'm worried of sweat.gif... Seeing how TSMC has agreed to setup their 5nm manufacturing plan in the US, I can just imagine how the smartphone price will rise even further cry.gif If other manufacturing companies follow suit, then... I don't even what to say lol
Things don't look good on trump side if the survey/finding (or whatever it is, can't recall it) from CNN is true. Let the votes go for Uncle Joe please!
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Why 5nm plant in US will increase prices? The smart phone now is using 5nm from Taiwan, and they going to make 3nm there too.


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Why 5nm plant in US will increase prices? The smart phone now is using 5nm from Taiwan, and they going to make 3nm there too.
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I thought the manufacturing cost in the state is higher, no?
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I thought the manufacturing cost in the state is higher, no?
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According to the economist, the answer is not really.
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That's one more thing that I'm worried of sweat.gif... Seeing how TSMC has agreed to setup their 5nm manufacturing plan in the US, I can just imagine how the smartphone price will rise even further cry.gif If other manufacturing companies follow suit, then... I don't even what to say lol
Things don't look good on trump side if the survey/finding (or whatever it is, can't recall it) from CNN is true. Let the votes go for Uncle Joe please!
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again, don't syiok sendiri
ur unker Joe is from Obama camp, democrat.
which they introduce Trans Pacific Partnership, TPP.
whether they r republican or Democrat, they view China as a threat.

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According to the economist, the answer is not really.
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I see. I guess different source leads to different answers? Hopefully I'm wrong sweat.gif

QUOTE(lucaswjk @ May 25 2020, 11:20 AM)
again, don't syiok sendiri
ur unker Joe is from Obama camp, democrat.
which they introduce Trans Pacific Partnership, TPP.
whether they r republican or Democrat, they view China as a threat.
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My apologies, Mr know everything sir notworthy.gif. In current situation I don't think anyone in the states doesn't view China as a threat, regardless of party. Well whatever it is, let's just hope for the best 🤗
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The price is expensive but I've let go of my habit of using flagship due to prices. laugh.gif

mi9t is more than enough for me now, as long as mid range SoC is functioning well, I guess I'll just stick to mid range phone and maybe just buy last year's model. Too bad, I miss using poco f1.
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Trump is just a joker. Up front talked about American here and there, seeing China as threat, engaged trade war. Mainly due to China product are too cheap, so he put tariff on it, earn big bucks, right ?
Many didnt know, the increase in price of those low cost product/materials impacted US industry itself. China aluminium too cheap ? Put tariff on it ! Small company in US like boat building who rely on aluminium, have to force-buy higher cost US aluminium, or eat the tariff imposed China aluminium.
Almost all IT or related industry company from US dont support Trump whole heartedly, they know it will come back and hurt them if trade war escalated. One of the reason whole world go and setup factory at China is due to cost and materials.
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I see. I guess different source leads to different answers? Hopefully I'm wrong  sweat.gif
My apologies, Mr know everything sir  notworthy.gif. In current situation I don't think anyone in the states doesn't view China as a threat, regardless of party. Well whatever it is, let's just hope for the best 🤗
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it is okay, in the current situation it will just slow down the world technology advancement... aka 5G

US still can bully in tech wise coz it will take years for China or the rest of the world to catch up...
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The price is expensive but I've let go of my habit of using flagship due to prices. laugh.gif

mi9t is more than enough for me now, as long as mid range SoC is functioning well, I guess I'll just stick to mid range phone and maybe just buy last year's model. Too bad, I miss using poco f1.
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Sad to see flagships are too expensive these days.

Had my mi pad 4 almost two years now, mid range SoC but still do a great job in handling most tasks.

QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 25 2020, 12:33 PM)
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Trump is just a joker. Up front talked about American here and there, seeing China as threat, engaged trade war. Mainly due to China product are too cheap, so he put tariff on it, earn big bucks, right ?
Many didnt know, the increase in price of those low cost product/materials impacted US industry itself. China aluminium too cheap ? Put tariff on it ! Small company in US like boat building who rely on aluminium, have to force-buy higher cost US aluminium, or eat the tariff imposed China aluminium.
Almost all IT or related industry company from US dont support Trump whole heartedly, they know it will come back and hurt them if trade war escalated. One of the reason whole world go and setup factory at China is due to cost and materials.
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He's a joker to no end.
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According to the economist, the answer is not really.
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issit ? why those manufacturer not in US ?
owner pocket is very honest ....
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issit ? why those manufacturer not in US ?
owner pocket is very honest ....
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According to the economist, the answer is not really.
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issit ? why those manufacturer not in US ?
owner pocket is very honest ....
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I think many manufactured in China, because main targeted buyer are around Asia, China and India as biggest consumer market in Asia.
Also China's lack of full regulatory, worse working environment, worse benefit etc. Imagine setup in western countries, worker union will fxxK up company profit, demanding benefit this and that.
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I think many manufactured in China, because main targeted buyer are around Asia, China and India as biggest consumer market in Asia.
Also China's lack of full regulatory, worse working environment, worse benefit etc. Imagine setup in western countries, worker union will fxxK up company profit, demanding benefit this and that.
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working culture too, China labor is no longer cheap now but they still very hard working and as long as manufacturer willing to pay, they will work.
second supply chain, impossible ship all part, material to US to make chips than send it back here to test, manufacturer than return ....
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working culture too, China labor is no longer cheap now but they still very hard working and as long as manufacturer willing to pay, they will work.
second supply chain, impossible ship all part, material to US to make chips than send it back here to test, manufacturer than return ....
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Ya, IINM materials processing also. Many rare earth material processing are 'dirty' and not environment friendly, western countries 'dont' want to do at their place.
Like how Australia dig out materials, and ship to Msia to process it cough*Lynas*cough biggrin.gif
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Perhaps this could be the Poco F2 non-Pro and cost below RM1500?

https://www.gsmarena.com/redmi_k30i_5g_goes...-news-43400.php
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Perhaps this could be the Poco F2 non-Pro and cost below RM1500?

https://www.gsmarena.com/redmi_k30i_5g_goes...-news-43400.php
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Does seems slightly nearer to poco F1, aka LCD screen. One of the reason F1 are low cost is LCD.
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Does seems slightly nearer to poco F1, aka LCD screen. One of the reason F1 are low cost is LCD.
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Perhaps this could be the Poco F2 non-Pro and cost below RM1500?

https://www.gsmarena.com/redmi_k30i_5g_goes...-news-43400.php
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 26 2020, 12:05 AM)
Does seems slightly nearer to poco F1, aka LCD screen. One of the reason F1 are low cost is LCD.
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looks like a potential candidate to me. Last time F1 got pro and non pro? Around how much when released?
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looks like a potential candidate to me. Last time F1 got pro and non pro? Around how much when released?
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No, there was only one version. Cheapest one at launch was RM1237 for 64GB storage. Of course, this was in 2018 with a SD845 processor.
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Poco F2 Pro so quiet
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No, there was only one version. Cheapest one at launch was RM1237 for 64GB storage. Of course,  this was in 2018 with a SD845 processor.
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No wonder a lot of people are disappointed with f2 pro price.
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QUOTE(attw @ May 26 2020, 10:08 AM)
No, there was only one version. Cheapest one at launch was RM1237 for 64GB storage. Of course,  this was in 2018 with a SD845 processor.
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Bought mine effectively at RM12xx for 128GB during first day launch with free Mi Bluebooth headset which i sold for RM90
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 26 2020, 12:35 PM)
No wonder a lot of people are disappointed with f2 pro price.
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Well, the specs are different now. Like you said, just the LCD to AMOLED itself was a few hundreds difference.

QUOTE(chicaman @ May 26 2020, 12:35 PM)
Bought mine effectively at RM12xx for 128GB during first day launch with free Mi Bluebooth headset which i sold for RM90
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Yeah, I think the early birds got a better deal as it was launched during the 3 months tax holiday when PH took over.
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Nowhere near the league of heavy weight lifters, but certainly wipes the floor with my previous phones. Really happy with the performance since it made it through the day on a single full charge 😁😁
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Nowhere near the league of heavy weight lifters, but certainly wipes the floor with my previous phones. Really happy with the performance since it made it through the day on a single full charge 😁😁
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I think we can expect pretty similar performance from the battery of the Poco F2 Pro, which is good. Now just waiting for them to announce it here, hahaha...

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I think we can expect pretty similar performance from the battery of the Poco F2 Pro, which is good. Now just waiting for them to announce it here, hahaha...
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Well, the specs are different now. Like you said, just the LCD to AMOLED itself was a few hundreds difference.
Yeah, I think the early birds got a better deal as it was launched during the 3 months tax holiday when PH took over.
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Yes during Tax Holiday, never been so good deal even after 1 year the price is still more expensive than my initial purchase price lol
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Yeah, the F1 held it's price quite nicely thumbup.gif

QUOTE(chicaman @ May 26 2020, 03:06 PM)
Redmi K30 Pro is below 2k
How is that not flagship killer by looking at the prices of SD865 hike up entire mobile segment price this year
Name 1 phone SD865 below 2k
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For some people, flagship killer still means RM1.2k, hahaha laugh.gif
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Yeah, the F1 held it's price quite nicely thumbup.gif
For some people, flagship killer still means RM1.2k, hahaha laugh.gif
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they forget even roadside CKT increase more than 50% also ....
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Redmi K30 Pro is below 2k

How is that not flagship killer by looking at the prices of SD865 hike up entire mobile segment price this year
Name 1 phone SD865 below 2k
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Redmi k30 pro... Hahaha, cannot name others, they don't exist under RM2k cry.gif


QUOTE(attw @ May 26 2020, 03:19 PM)
Yeah, the F1 held it's price quite nicely thumbup.gif
For some people, flagship killer still means RM1.2k, hahaha laugh.gif
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Wait until conversion rate 1usd = rm2 tongue.gif

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they forget even roadside CKT increase more than 50% also ....
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Noob question, what's CKT?

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Redmi k30 pro... Hahaha, cannot name others, they don't exist under RM2k cry.gif
Wait until conversion rate 1usd = rm2 tongue.gif
Noob question, what's CKT?
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OK now I suddenly miss CKT, hahaha. Hungry now, lol
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Wait until conversion rate 1usd = rm2 tongue.gif
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On the other hand I am still waiting for ROG3 and see if there are Tencent version this year or not
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We'll be lucky if it doesn't hit RM5 soon laugh.gif
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On the other hand I am still waiting for ROG3 and see if there are Tencent version this year or not
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Same price as the Poco F2 Pro in Europe

https://gsmarena.com/realme_x3_superzoom_is...-news-43420.php

Only SD855+ (no 5G) and LCD screen, though you do get a high refresh rate screen.
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Same price as the Poco F2 Pro in Europe

https://gsmarena.com/realme_x3_superzoom_is...-news-43420.php

Only SD855+ (no 5G) and LCD screen, though you do get a high refresh rate screen.
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Good question. I do prefer Realme UI over MIUI though the main purpose of getting the F2 Pro would be to try the SD865 chipset, hahaha. We'll see smile.gif
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I have never use realme phones before haha
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Try the Realme 6 first then, not the 6i. The 6 is really value for money at promo price of RM799 smile.gif
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where got 799 oh bro...899 got la hehe
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Probably price increased already. Most of us here got ours during Flash sale at RM799, hahaha...
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Sad but true  bye.gif
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QUOTE(attw @ May 26 2020, 08:53 PM)
Same price as the Poco F2 Pro in Europe

https://gsmarena.com/realme_x3_superzoom_is...-news-43420.php

Only SD855+ (no 5G) and LCD screen, though you do get a high refresh rate screen.
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If price is the same with f2p, which one will you choose?
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Good question. I do prefer Realme UI over MIUI though the main purpose of getting the F2 Pro would be to try the SD865 chipset, hahaha. We'll see smile.gif
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I have never use realme phones before haha
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realme x3 looks good, depends on price to be honest, but i might go for realme x3 mainly for more ram and storage. snapdragon 855 Plus should be good enough for me. but depends on the final pricing too. still have to wait and see:

"In Europe, the Realme X3 SuperZoom with 12GB RAM + 256GB storage is officially priced at EUR 499 (about RM2,389). That’s the same price as the Poco F2 Pro base model that’s equipped with 6GB RAM + 128GB storage."

https://www.soyacincau.com/2020/05/26/realm...ro-alternative/
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QUOTE(attw @ May 26 2020, 08:53 PM)
Same price as the Poco F2 Pro in Europe

https://gsmarena.com/realme_x3_superzoom_is...-news-43420.php

Only SD855+ (no 5G) and LCD screen, though you do get a high refresh rate screen.
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It's more Poco F1 successor biggrin.gif
Spec wise, it's incremental upgrade compared to poco f1, remain LCD, flagship SOC, above average camera, rather large battery. One flaw/downgrade are lack of 3.5mm headphone jack.
Poco should have a regular F2 similar to this for people concern on best value, while do what they want with 'Pro' model for people want top spec.

QUOTE(attw @ May 27 2020, 09:21 AM)
Good question. I do prefer Realme UI over MIUI though the main purpose of getting the F2 Pro would be to try the SD865 chipset, hahaha. We'll see smile.gif
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While I havent use realme UI daily, I guess I prefer MIUI, mainly due to long history of MIUI development biggrin.gif
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Not really, I like ROG2 build, battery life, screen and speaker and the stock like android
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I do recommend ROG2 to friend, if they're mobile gamer. Huge top and bottom bezel, physical size and weight, average camera are not recommending for other usage, but perfect for mobile gamers. My friend who use dual display also, 'looks' good when gaming at mamak/cafe biggrin.gif
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Not really, I like ROG2 build, battery life, screen and speaker and the stock like android
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Yeah, the ROG2 looks kinda cool. I was planning to try the 8/128 model when it launched but stocks were limited and there were no good pre-order deals so I moved on smile.gif

QUOTE(bangolufsen @ May 27 2020, 12:05 PM)
realme x3 looks good, depends on price to be honest, but i might go for realme x3 mainly for more ram and storage. snapdragon 855 Plus should be good enough for me. but depends on the final pricing too. still have to wait and see:

"In Europe, the Realme X3 SuperZoom with 12GB RAM + 256GB storage is officially priced at EUR 499 (about RM2,389). That’s the same price as the Poco F2 Pro base model that’s equipped with 6GB RAM + 128GB storage."

https://www.soyacincau.com/2020/05/26/realm...ro-alternative/
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I'm guessing it'll be in the range of the X2 Pro, 2399-3499. Anything more would be very, very difficult considering it's not a SD865 chipset.

QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 27 2020, 12:44 PM)
While I havent use realme UI daily, I guess I prefer MIUI, mainly due to long history of MIUI development  biggrin.gif
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I currently have a RN7 for work running on MIUI and I don't quite like it due to the bloatware and ads. It's tolerable though but Realme UI appeals to me more. Even MKBHD said the phone kinda stutters because of the UI in the video you shared smile.gif

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QUOTE(attw @ May 27 2020, 02:57 PM)
Yeah, the ROG2 looks kinda cool. I was planning to try the 8/128 model when it launched but stocks were limited and there were no good pre-order deals so I moved on smile.gif
I'm guessing it'll be in the range of the X2 Pro, 2399-3499. Anything more would be very, very difficult considering it's not a SD865 chipset.
I currently have a RN7 for work running on MIUI and I don't quite like it due to the bloatware and ads. It's tolerable though but Realme UI appeals to me more smile.gif
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ROG2 around rm2.5k for AP set biggrin.gif

Best is still: laugh.gif
Stock/Pixel/OnePlus > MIUI/RealMe biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 27 2020, 03:42 PM)
ROG2 around rm2.5k for AP set biggrin.gif

Best is still:  laugh.gif
Stock/Pixel/OnePlus > MIUI/RealMe  biggrin.gif
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Stock/OxygenOS > Samsung One UI (WITH SD PROCESSOR)> Realme UI > EMUI/ColorOS/MIUI

Have not tried Vivo's FunTouch OS yet though laugh.gif

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For me: -

Stock/OxygenOS > Samsung One UI > Realme UI > EMUI/ColorOS/MIUI

Have not tried Vivo's FunTouch OS yet though laugh.gif
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samsung is the worst for me, when u work in banking IT lines, office firewall will alert you every 10-15minute.
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Yeah, I have a friend who commented the same as well. Initially I always thought that Samsung's UI is the cause of all the idle battery drain but I recently tried the S10 Lite with a SD855 processor - and it kinda showed me that it wasn't the UI, it was the Exynos chip. So I corrected my ranking above laugh.gif
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We'll know the pricing tomorrow

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Looks like they'll go directly against the Realme X3 Superzoom also to be revealed tomorrow.

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We'll know the pricing tomorrow

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Looks like they'll go directly against the Realme X3 Superzoom also to be revealed tomorrow.
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RM2,299 base model I guess
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RM2,299 base model I guess
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samsung is the worst for me, when u work in banking IT lines, office firewall will alert you every 10-15minute.
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For those hoping to be below Rm2k well... This is a sneak peek from our neighbours official store.

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Nice price
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Cheapest SD865 phone in the market now! Any pre-order goodies?
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QUOTE(Jebsee @ May 28 2020, 10:01 AM)
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Nice price
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Not really if you think about it. You got a brand new iPhone that costs less than that laugh.gif

And wtf is with the fan free gift? The phone already has a special cooling system, giving this as a free gift just makes it more suspicious.
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Cheapest SD865 phone in the market now! Any pre-order goodies?
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Not really if you think about it. You got a brand new iPhone that costs less than that laugh.gif

And wtf is with the fan free gift? The phone already has a special cooling system, giving this as a free gift just makes it more suspicious.
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QUOTE(sp6068 @ May 28 2020, 10:10 AM)
Not really if you think about it. You got a brand new iPhone that costs less than that laugh.gif

And wtf is with the fan free gift? The phone already has a special cooling system, giving this as a free gift just makes it more suspicious.
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U know the internal cooling system is a gimmick


Blackshark Cooler is better than ROG2 Cooler


But theres after market brand Maemo cooler that works equally good RM50


This Blackshark Cooler can be sold for RM100+


Effectively 8+256 is RM2499 if you are not fond of the given cooler
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Not really if you think about it. You got a brand new iPhone that costs less than that laugh.gif

And wtf is with the fan free gift? The phone already has a special cooling system, giving this as a free gift just makes it more suspicious.
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Same price as the iPhone SE 128GB. Probably no one wants the fan, hahaha...
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Same price as the iPhone SE 128GB. Probably no one wants the fan, hahaha...
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The fan is highly sought after if you sell at RM100, gamers will be rushing to buy from you
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As hypothesized ... LOL ...

73.3% price increment from F1's 128GB SRP 2 years ago...


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Yeah its cheapest SD865 phone!I think there is no pre order available just yet?
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Haven't seen the official announcement yet from MI's FB page. Hopefully got 100 bucks off. They can keep the freebies laugh.gif
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Come to think of it, if everyone doesn't buy it they will be forced to lower the price. Reason is because they got deadly rivals i.e Realme and iPSE and they released the phone at the worst possible time when everyone is broke and jobless.

At the end of the day consumers still decides the pricing whistling.gif
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LYN just ran the article

https://www.lowyat.net/2020/214009/poco-f2-...aysia-official/
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Vivo iQOO Neo 3 5G saves the day....LOL...

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 28 2020, 10:44 AM)
Vivo iQOO Neo 3 5G saves the day....LOL...

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Hnnnngh!!

much cheaper
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As hypothesized ... LOL ...

73.3% price increment from F1's 128GB SRP 2 years ago...
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Vivo iQOO Neo 3 5G saves the day....LOL...

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Your guess is right on the money, bro! Some early reviews of the Poco F2 Pro hasn't been favourable though, the one MKBHD put up yesterday says he even feels it stutters although on the latest SD865, not sure if it's the UI or if he's too used to high refresh rate screen already laugh.gif

It's a pity IQOO not available officially in our market.
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Hnnnngh!!

much cheaper
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If you don't need the SD865, then maybe this one?

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If you don't need the SD865, then maybe this one?

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Really good offer i would say
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QUOTE(Jebsee @ May 28 2020, 12:08 PM)
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Really good offer i would say
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Really good offer i would say
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Now we're talking biggrin.gif
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Last time also like this during F1 Flash Sales... either limited units or the batch is faulty...

I've got the best price for F1 flash sales but the camera was faulty end-up return-refund and wait for the price to drop 3 months later...

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 28 2020, 12:22 PM)
Last time also like this during F1 Flash Sales... either limited units or the batch is faulty...

I've got the best price for F1 flash sales but the camera was faulty end-up return-refund and wait for the price to drop 3 months later...
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I think this round might be less risky since we're essentially just getting a rebranded Redmi K30 Pro - they probably sorted out all the faulty ones earlier.
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They could be testing market for this price point. Then later decide to make it permanently RM1999 for the lowest variant. Because only at this price it can be competitive.
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I think this round might be less risky since we're essentially just getting a rebranded Redmi K30 Pro - they probably sorted out all the faulty ones earlier.
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Or if I were Poco Execs, I'd take the Redmi faulty units and re-conditioned and re-sell as brand new F2P...LOL...no wastages...just like the iPhone SE 2020...

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 28 2020, 12:35 PM)
Or if I were Poco Execs, I'd take the Redmi faulty units and re-conditioned and re-sell as brand new F2P...LOL...no wastages...just like the iPhone SE 2020...
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Really good offer i would say
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now we r talking...

but my pocket is not deep enuf...
I don't want to take my fund from my tablet n ps5

lhaiz less than 2 weeks to decide

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ May 28 2020, 12:44 PM)
now we r talking...

but my pocket is not deep enuf...
I don't want to take my fund from my tablet n ps5

lhaiz less than 2 weeks to decide
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PS5 lama lagi bro... Buy the F2 Pro, play with it a bit, and sell off still PS5 haven't launch here...
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PS5 lama lagi bro... Buy the F2 Pro, play with it a bit, and sell off still PS5 haven't launch here...
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2weeks... need to budget slowly
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Makan roti loohhh.... LOL...

Anyway, I will definitely go for 12-month installments as usual with 14-days Return Policy intact...

However, not going for F2P...awaiting for Sammy Note20+ "gimmick"...
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Realme x3 super zoom is gonna win over this by miles. Anytime i will go for lower price, 120hz, and bear in mind is just lcd panel, this one amoled panel but lock at 60hz, for a 2k price you can get 256,but xiaomi is only at 128gb.

What a joke. Wait for price drop, will be at 1.8k after 6months,k30 pro would be around 1.6
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 28 2020, 01:05 PM)
Makan roti loohhh.... LOL...

Anyway, I will definitely go for 12-month installments as usual with 14-days Return Policy intact...

However, not going for F2P...awaiting for Sammy Note20+ "gimmick"...
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QUOTE(Omochao @ May 28 2020, 02:30 PM)
Realme x3 super zoom is gonna win over this by miles. Anytime i will go for lower price, 120hz, and bear in mind is just lcd panel, this one amoled panel but lock at 60hz, for a 2k price you can get 256,but xiaomi is only at 128gb.

What a joke. Wait for price drop, will be at 1.8k after 6months,k30 pro would be around 1.6
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LCD + 855+ ... so it not cheap ....
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ok....

at 2199.... S10 lite vs Poco F2
SD855 vs SD865

for non gamer uncle like me... which will be better deal?
i prefer a good camera anytime.
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QUOTE(lkoky @ May 28 2020, 03:18 PM)
ok....

at 2199.... S10 lite vs Poco F2
  SD855 vs SD865

for non gamer uncle like me... which will be better deal?
i prefer a good camera anytime.
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Mi Note 10
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Mi Note 10
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ok....

at 2199.... S10 lite vs Poco F2
  SD855 vs SD865

for non gamer uncle like me... which will be better deal?
i prefer a good camera anytime.
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For your case, S10 lite camera is better if you don't mind punch hole front camera.

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QUOTE(tHe^CuLpRit @ May 28 2020, 03:29 PM)
Doesn't that start at RM2.7k?

Unker comparing RM2.2k phones
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QUOTE(lkoky @ May 28 2020, 03:18 PM)
ok....

at 2199.... S10 lite vs Poco F2
  SD855 vs SD865

for non gamer uncle like me... which will be better deal?
i prefer a good camera anytime.
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I've tried the S10 lite, it's the least frustrating experience I've had on a Samsung for the longest time. That said, the camera isn't spectacular compared to it's non-lite S and Note series siblings and there is an issue with shutter lag as well, though I'm not sure if they've fixed it via software update. That said, the camera is OK for most shots.

QUOTE(tHe^CuLpRit @ May 28 2020, 03:29 PM)
Doesn't that start at RM2.7k?

Unker comparing RM2.2k phones
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Mi Note 10, and not Mi 10. I just helped a friend buy one at RM1780. For 2k, can get the Mi Note 10 Pro smile.gif

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Not really if you think about it. You got a brand new iPhone that costs less than that laugh.gif

And wtf is with the fan free gift? The phone already has a special cooling system, giving this as a free gift just makes it more suspicious.
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Really good offer i would say
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Blackshark probably have too much leftover stock  biggrin.gif
Might try luck on this. Below rm2k worth it IMO
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Will the F2P be in the list by end this year...?

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QUOTE(lkoky @ May 28 2020, 03:18 PM)
ok....

at 2199.... S10 lite vs Poco F2
  SD855 vs SD865

for non gamer uncle like me... which will be better deal?
i prefer a good camera anytime.
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So long as we know how to flash GCam, any devices will do... but for Snap865, GCam is not "fully" using its Image Signal Processing (ISP) module... so, Snap855 is the winner here... I might be wrong as never compare both side-by-side...
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Mi Note 10, and not Mi 10. I just helped a friend buy one at RM1780. For 2k, can get the Mi Note 10 Pro smile.gif
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ah my bad! the names are super-confusing la. Lite here, heavy there. then tambah Pro lagi.

Anyway at RM2199, I'd rather just go for Oneplus 7T.
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ah my bad! the names are super-confusing la. Lite here, heavy there. then tambah Pro lagi.

Anyway at RM2199, I'd rather just go for Oneplus 7T.
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Will the F2P be in the list by end this year...?

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No way, F1 only sold one million plus units. With almost doubling price and intense competition from Realme, I would be surprise to see F2P going to hit one million units...
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IMO, if they got F2 non pro version, the bashing will be lesser. It's alright if they launch Pro version, but need to keep true to flagship-killer-affordable-non-Pro version for hardcore fans.
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 28 2020, 05:19 PM)
IMO, if they got F2 non pro version, the bashing will be lesser. It's alright if they launch Pro version, but need to keep true to flagship-killer-affordable-non-Pro version for hardcore fans.
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They have lost the true Poco DNA... So, the Poco/Pocophone F1 is THE one and only breed of its kind... LOL...

In other words, it was a mistake to introduce the F1 in the 1st pace...
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Then it won't be a flagship to kill the flagship of flagships? Haha sorry just joking but u do have a point.
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Flagship killer Poco F1, it has performance and so to fight with flagship. It cut corner at good place IMO, like using LCD, plastic back cover, IP rating.
But this Poco F2 Pro, not much corner cut, it's just not competitive already sad.gif
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Flagship killer Poco F1, it has performance and so to fight with flagship. It cut corner at good place IMO, like using LCD, plastic back cover, IP rating.
But this Poco F2 Pro, not much corner cut, it's just not competitive already  sad.gif
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I see. F1 cut corners on some so it would make more sense for the successor to follow the the same trend.

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Flagship killer Poco F1, it has performance and so to fight with flagship. It cut corner at good place IMO, like using LCD, plastic back cover, IP rating.
But this Poco F2 Pro, not much corner cut, it's just not competitive already  sad.gif
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 28 2020, 06:00 PM)
I see. F1 cut corners on some so it would make more sense for the successor to follow the the same trend.
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i think not worth effort for R&D, after F1 there no more true Poco Phone, basically rebadge redmi phone ...
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Thank you xda staffs for not bothering or refusing to open forum thread for us f2 pro / K30 pro users. What a disappointment.

https://www.xda-developers.com/realme-x3-su.../#disqus_thread
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QUOTE(tHe^CuLpRit @ May 28 2020, 04:34 PM)
ah my bad! the names are super-confusing la. Lite here, heavy there. then tambah Pro lagi.

Anyway at RM2199, I'd rather just go for Oneplus 7T.
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 28 2020, 05:48 PM)
They have lost the true Poco DNA... So, the Poco/Pocophone F1 is THE one and only breed of its kind... LOL...

In other words, it was a mistake to introduce the F1 in the 1st pace...
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Hypothetical question: if the Poco F2 was introduced with the Realme X3 Superzoom's specs and priced at RM1,799, would it be a more appropriate successor to the Poco F1?
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QUOTE(attw @ May 28 2020, 06:34 PM)
Yeah, agree with you there. The names are confusing laugh.gif
Hypothetical question: if the Poco F2 was introduced with the Realme X3 Superzoom's specs and priced at RM1,799, would it be a more appropriate successor to the Poco F1?
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IMO realme X3 superzoom are suitable as Poco F1 successor. LCD display, flagship SOC ( last year's, but at least no bullshit 5G )
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IMO realme X3 superzoom are suitable as Poco F1 successor. LCD display, flagship SOC ( last year's, but at least no bullshit 5G )
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Hypothetical question: if the Poco F2 was introduced with the Realme X3 Superzoom's specs and priced at RM1,799, would it be a more appropriate successor to the Poco F1?
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"Successor" is not the word I'm expecting... but more to "side-upgrade". The "successor" is more like from notch to notchless, IPS to AMOLED, 60Hz to 90++Hz, 18W to 30W charging rate, and plastic to "glass-tic" body-built.

For camera, the "side-upgrade" and "successor" is very subjective depending on front- and rear-facing camera module(s)...the same goes for the MIUI vs RealMe UI experience, a very subjective matter...

Therefore, my personal hypothetical conclusion :
From F1 to F2P = Successor, hence 73% price increased.
From F1 to "F2 non-Pro" (aka RealMe X3 Superzoom) = side-upgrade, hence 20% price increased.
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Yeah, and probably dial down the 120hz refresh rate back to 90hz and cut another RM100 - everyone wins laugh.gif
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Does lcd 120mhz n 60 MHz make huge difference ?
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 28 2020, 06:50 PM)
"Successor" is not the word I'm expecting... but more to "side-upgrade". The "successor" is more like from notch to notchless, IPS to AMOLED, 60Hz to 90++Hz, 18W to 30W charging rate, and plastic to "glass-tic" body-built.

For camera, the "side-upgrade" and "successor" is very subjective depending on front- and rear-facing camera module(s)...the same goes for the MIUI vs RealMe UI experience, a very subjective matter...

Therefore, my personal hypothetical conclusion :
From F1 to F2P = Successor, hence 73% price increased.
From F1 to "F2 non-Pro" (aka RealMe X3 Superzoom) = side-upgrade, hence 20% price increased.
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So which do you prefer? Hahaha

Successor, or side upgrade?

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Does lcd 120mhz n 60 MHz make huge difference ?
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Kinda difficult question. From what Ive found, some people notice the difference immediately while most don't. The latter might need to stay at higher refresh rate for at least a day to tell. On the other hand, most people who got used to higher refresh rate feel that 60hz is sluggish.
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QUOTE(attw @ May 28 2020, 06:51 PM)
So which do you prefer? Hahaha

Successor, or side upgrade?
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Successor = Long term investment = beyond 24-month ownership.
Side-upgrade = short-term investment = < 24-month ownership.

So, I'd prefer side-upgrade because these brands are not "Apple" and "Samsung" to general public as shown below:

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I'd only go for successor if it is Apple-to-Sammy, or Sammy-to-Apple, or Sammy-to-Sammy, or Apple-to-Apple investment.

Oh yeah, thanx to Mr. "J"oker Trump, the matrix is much simpler and str8 forward now....On top of that, Goggle Pixel-series is not under my Top 5 list so far... OnePlus is not a "brand" to my eyes... These "new" brands efforts trying to match with Apple and Sammy is wasting their time as general public is looking at stylo-milo/trust/reliability/after-sales services rather than price-over-performance offerings (except for India region)... So, these new brands rely heavily on Influencers to gain general public trust. OnePlus-McLarens collab is dead... why? Maybe all the top execs in McLarens is using Apple/Sammy perhaps...Oppo/Vivo and the like were using popular celebrities to capture general public interest but still fail to date because general public do "aware" that these celebrities will definitely use/sponsored by Apple and Sammy for the past decade as their daily driver device(s)... Sample below by latest mega-celebrity-in-the-world-who-only-cares-about-rating :
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QUOTE(XXXOOOXXXOOO @ May 28 2020, 06:51 PM)
Does lcd 120mhz n 60 MHz make huge difference ?
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Most people should able to notice the difference between 120fps vs 60fps.
Notice I use terms fps instead of Hz.

120Hz Display = hardware
It doesnt guarantee whatever games/apps/usage are 120fps ( which are what's important )

If phone running resource heavy games that's laggy ( like 20-30fps ), then the 120Hz display are no difference to 60Hz display.
I even doubt most manufacturer's OS optimized enough to sustain constant smooth 60fps and above.

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x3 vs f2...hmm

f2 - snapdragon 865, no notch and punch out display, amoled

x3 - 120hz rr, cheaper rm200, but older 855+

arrggghhh
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QUOTE(marcyeo @ May 28 2020, 08:29 PM)
x3 vs f2...hmm

f2 - snapdragon 865, no notch and punch out display, amoled

x3 - 120hz rr, cheaper rm200, but older 855+

arrggghhh
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For your case, very easy...

To boost your "Channel", just get the F2P... do all the tests and comparison and you'll get lots of likes from India subscribers (provided that you don't bash F2P lah....LOL...). If you bash F2P, the "emotional" fanz will do harm to your Channel...

Please do lots of the microphone and selfies test at in-door (and also out-door) as done by you below:
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We really eager to know the quality of the mic, selfie cam and noise cancellation of F2P.... Not many Influencers do these kind of tests...

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QUOTE(marcyeo @ May 28 2020, 08:29 PM)
x3 vs f2...hmm

f2 - snapdragon 865, no notch and punch out display, amoled

x3 - 120hz rr, cheaper rm200, but older 855+

arrggghhh
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Not huge difference on SOC.
Although benchmark dont fully reflect real life performance, but SD855+ are 9% slower than SD865
https://www.notebookcheck.net/SD-865-vs-SD-...1.247596.0.html
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 28 2020, 07:03 PM)
Successor = Long term investment = beyond 24-month ownership.
Side-upgrade = short-term investment = < 24-month ownership.
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Very philosophical, bro laugh.gif

But ya, for me, Android phones are all short term coz I don't use them for long, hahaha...
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QUOTE(attw @ May 28 2020, 08:58 PM)
Very philosophical, bro laugh.gif

But ya, for me, Android phones are all short term coz I don't use them for long, hahaha...
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My Who-R-We Mate 10 Pro is receiving A10 now... Been using it for over 2 years now...reaching to my previous iPhone 4 record of 3 years ownership... If the incoming Sammy N20+ "gimmick" not convincing, the M10P will break my iP4 record for sure...LOL...

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 28 2020, 08:38 PM)
For your case, very easy...

To boost your "Channel", just get the F2P... do all the tests and comparison and you'll get lots of likes from India subscribers (provided that you don't bash F2P lah....LOL...). If you bash F2P, the "emotional" fanz will do harm to your Channel...

Please do lots of the microphone and selfies test at in-door (and also out-door) as done by you below:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


We really eager to know the quality of the mic, selfie cam and noise cancellation of F2P.... Not many Influencers do these kind of tests...
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good ideas bro...i have to make the correct choice coz im buying the phones (no sponsors) yet hahahaha...anyway it is more to my liking and interest la..but it is good idea hehe
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 28 2020, 08:42 PM)
Not huge difference on SOC.
Although benchmark dont fully reflect real life performance, but SD855+ are 9% slower than SD865
https://www.notebookcheck.net/SD-865-vs-SD-...1.247596.0.html
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i agree with u bro. lets see la...haha...very competitive now

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QUOTE(marcyeo @ May 28 2020, 08:29 PM)
x3 vs f2...hmm

f2 - snapdragon 865, no notch and punch out display, amoled

x3 - 120hz rr, cheaper rm200, but older 855+

arrggghhh
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QUOTE(jcksn81 @ May 29 2020, 08:00 AM)
x3 - 120hz rr    but IPS LCD ...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 28 2020, 09:06 PM)
My Who-R-We Mate 10 Pro is receiving A10 now... Been using it for over 2 years now...reaching to my previous iPhone 4 record of 3 years ownership... If the incoming Sammy N20+ "gimmick" not convincing, the M10P will break my iP4 record for sure...LOL...
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Your Mate 10 Pro still going strong there thumbup.gif

I wouldn't get my hopes up too high on the Note 20. Sure to be over RM4k for another Exynos device here, hahaha. I'll wait for the Note 20 Lite laugh.gif
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Your Mate 10 Pro still going strong there thumbup.gif
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Yup... as promised by Who-R-We, they claimed that the device will stay "fast" as intended even after 18 months running:
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Can Xiaomi/Poco do the same claim...?
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 29 2020, 12:43 PM)
Yup... as promised by Who-R-We, they claimed that the device will stay "fast" as intended even after 18 months running:
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Can Xiaomi/Poco do the same claim...?
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Your Poco F1 still with you bro? What's your latest update?

My Redmi Note 7 last security update was in January 2020 - Ok la tu... laugh.gif
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Your Poco F1 still with you bro? What's your latest update?

My Redmi Note 7 last security update was in January 2020 - Ok la tu... laugh.gif
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Hope this tradition continues for F2 series...
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Hi guys, want to ask, how to know if poco f2 pro can output to external monitor through type c cable?

Is it the usb 2.0, 3.1 format or some other specs term?

Can’t find any details online.
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QUOTE(bangolufsen @ May 29 2020, 01:53 PM)
Hi guys, want to ask, how to know if poco f2 pro can output to external monitor through type c cable?

Is it the usb 2.0, 3.1 format or some other specs term?

Can’t find any details online.
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For F1, we need to buy DisplayLink Dock/Adapter:
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DisplayLink is a tech certified to run on any Android devices be it smartphones or Tablets. We also need to install the DisplayLink Presenter Driver in the smartphones/tablets in order to stream via the DisplayLink Dock/Adapter.

Below is the accessories for the F1:
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QUOTE(bangolufsen @ May 29 2020, 01:53 PM)
Hi guys, want to ask, how to know if poco f2 pro can output to external monitor through type c cable?

Is it the usb 2.0, 3.1 format or some other specs term?

Can’t find any details online.
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2.0 3.1 those are not relevant.

I suspect you just need a USB-C to HDMI cable/adapter. I suspect that cable/adapter need MHL support as well.
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 29 2020, 12:50 PM)
Latest May 2020:
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Hope this tradition continues for F2 series...
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That's pretty good. More love for the Poco than the Redmi Note 7 then laugh.gif
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 29 2020, 12:43 PM)
Yup... as promised by Who-R-We, they claimed that the device will stay "fast" as intended even after 18 months running:
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Conclusion :
Can Xiaomi/Poco do the same claim...?
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Don't trust Huawei Mate 10 battery, after 1 year plus usage battery already expanded.

Lucky for Huawei monthly promo to replace battery.

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I usually charge my M10P using stock charger & cable. Never overcharging as well... still OK after 2 years...
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 29 2020, 02:01 PM)
For F1, we need to buy DisplayLink Dock/Adapter:
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DisplayLink is a tech certified to run on any Android devices be it smartphones or Tablets. We also need to install the DisplayLink Presenter Driver in the smartphones/tablets in order to stream via the DisplayLink Dock/Adapter.

Below is the accessories for the F1:
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 29 2020, 02:07 PM)
2.0 3.1 those are not relevant.

I suspect you just need a USB-C to HDMI cable/adapter. I suspect that cable/adapter need MHL support as well.
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Thank you, quite confusing to be honest. It’s like taking a gamble to see which phone can have HDMI output.
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Thank you, quite confusing to be honest. It’s like taking a gamble to see which phone can have HDMI output.
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For Android platform, those flagships from Sammy, Who-R-We and OnePlus are confirmed to have display output "built-in" into the USB-C port. So, just buy any ordinary USB-C to HDMI cable will do. No need to buy DisplayLink Dock/Adapter.

But flagships from Xiaomi/Poco/etc. does not have built-in display output in their USB-C port. So, to be on the safe side, just get the DisplayLink Dock/Adapter and 100% any Android devices (Smartphones/Tablets) will be able to have display out features. But, DisplayLink Dock/Adapter is not cheap because it is a "license" (like the Qualcomm Quick Charge license) and no competitor out there yet. So, they control the market.

One more reason why Xiaomi/Poco "flagships" are cheap:
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 29 2020, 05:39 PM)
For Android platform, those flagships from Sammy, Who-R-We and OnePlus are confirmed to have display output "built-in" into the USB-C port. So, just buy any ordinary USB-C to HDMI cable will do. No need to buy DisplayLink Dock/Adapter.

But flagships from Xiaomi/Poco/etc. does not have built-in display output in their USB-C port. So, to be on the safe side, just get the DisplayLink Dock/Adapter and 100% any Android devices (Smartphones/Tablets) will be able to have display out features. But, DisplayLink Dock/Adapter is not cheap because it is a "license" (like the Qualcomm Quick Charge license) and no competitor out there yet. So, they control the market.

One more reason why Xiaomi/Poco "flagships" are cheap:
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Well, the Mi 10 certainly isn't cheap anymore, hahaha. Wonder what USB C port that uses.

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ May 29 2020, 05:39 PM)
For Android platform, those flagships from Sammy, Who-R-We and OnePlus are confirmed to have display output "built-in" into the USB-C port. So, just buy any ordinary USB-C to HDMI cable will do. No need to buy DisplayLink Dock/Adapter.

But flagships from Xiaomi/Poco/etc. does not have built-in display output in their USB-C port. So, to be on the safe side, just get the DisplayLink Dock/Adapter and 100% any Android devices (Smartphones/Tablets) will be able to have display out features. But, DisplayLink Dock/Adapter is not cheap because it is a "license" (like the Qualcomm Quick Charge license) and no competitor out there yet. So, they control the market.

One more reason why Xiaomi/Poco "flagships" are cheap:
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Thank you for this detailed explanation. Appreciate it a lot!
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Well, the Mi 10 certainly isn't cheap anymore, hahaha. Wonder what USB C port that uses.
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That's why I don't like USB-C port at all.... (surprised with my statement...? LOL). The physical port is the same USB-C but the protocols can be as listed below:

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There's incoming USB 4.0 protocol soon.

To me USB-C physical port is currently not properly being differentiate between protocols. OEMs should start colouring the USB-C port(s) on smartphones/PCs/lptops/iPads/MacBook/etc being black as basic USB 2.0 protocols and different colours for USB 3.2 Gen 1 protocol, USB 3.2 Gen 2 protocol, USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 protocol or USB 4.0 protocol or etc...

And then ThunderBolt??? Use white colour USB-C port loohhh...

Xiaomi/Poco can get away from general public but they ain't fool me regarding these USB-C port...
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So we can assume F2P will be the same....?

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attw : Sammy's Snap865 is not great after all... of course this is just synthetic benchmark... nothing detrimental to user experience...
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So we can assume F2P will be the same....?

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attw : Sammy's Snap865 is not great after all... of course this is just synthetic benchmark... nothing detrimental to user experience...
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It's showing the cheapest ones are the high scorers in the benchmarks as opposed to the pricier siblings! Hahaha...

Does the screen refresh rate playba part in the scores? Samsung fanboys will argue theirs got 120hz refresh rate laugh.gif
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It's showing the cheapest ones are the high scorers in the benchmarks as opposed to the pricier siblings! Hahaha...

Does the screen refresh rate playba part in the scores? Samsung fanboys will argue theirs got 120hz refresh rate laugh.gif
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Nubia RedMagic 5G is 144 Hz also 3rd place leyyy... Sammy's OneUI is to be blame...LOL...
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That's why I don't like USB-C port at all.... (surprised with my statement...? LOL). The physical port is the same USB-C but the protocols can be as listed below:

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There's incoming USB 4.0 protocol soon.

To me USB-C physical port is currently not properly being differentiate between protocols. OEMs should start colouring the USB-C port(s) on smartphones/PCs/lptops/iPads/MacBook/etc being black as basic USB 2.0 protocols and different colours for USB 3.2 Gen 1 protocol, USB 3.2 Gen 2 protocol, USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 protocol or USB 4.0 protocol or etc...

And then ThunderBolt??? Use white colour USB-C port loohhh...

Xiaomi/Poco can get away from general public but they ain't fool me regarding these USB-C port...
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You should hate most other USB port also biggrin.gif
What grind my gear are how USB IF or manufacturer change naming. USB 3.1 3.2 gen 1 2 3, IINM they even changed previous speed to another name. Fxxking idiot stupid forum ( USB IF ).

Color does help, but I think it depends on manufacturer. Most use blue for 3.0 but like Razer laptop's USB3.0 are green ( Razor theme )
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Nubia RedMagic 5G is 144 Hz also 3rd place leyyy... Sammy's OneUI is to be blame...LOL...
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Hi guys, Will this phone available at mi physical store? Scare buy at online phone will missing....
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Hi guys, Will this phone available at mi physical store? Scare buy at online phone will missing....
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Sure got, previous f1 also got sell at physical store.
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QUOTE(lawrencehl @ May 29 2020, 08:40 PM)
Hi guys, Will this phone available at mi physical store? Scare buy at online phone will missing....
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Buy from trusted official seller you won't have to worry those issues.
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I have decided to go for poco f2 pro rather than x3 zoom:
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I have decided to go for poco f2 pro rather than x3 zoom:
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2. snapdragon 865
3. no punch hole
4. on screen fp
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Make sure to get the accessories first before placing F2P order... not sure the existing K30P can fit or not... Tempered glass sure fit but casing is 99% fit(?)
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If really HDMI output is an important thing for you. Can just get one of the HDMI to USB c cables from one of the brands that support ezcast. Needs an app but it will cast everything from your phone just like how a few companies have built in display output via type c.

Cost less than RM1xx
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Make sure to get the accessories first before placing F2P order... not sure the existing K30P can fit or not... Tempered glass sure fit but casing is 99% fit(?)
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haha...i dont use case and sp one
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Buy from trusted official seller you won't have to worry those issues.
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Official online mi store 1999 seems good deal but scare courier staff steal it while shipping, already have many case even laptop....
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QUOTE(lawrencehl @ May 29 2020, 10:40 PM)
Official online mi store 1999 seems good deal but scare courier staff steal it while shipping, already have many case even laptop....
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I believe official Mi Store is by LEX
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haha...i dont use case and sp one
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Wait, no protection at all??? The Maaaaaaaaaannnnnn notworthy.gif rclxm9.gif
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Wait, no protection at all??? The Maaaaaaaaaannnnnn  notworthy.gif  rclxm9.gif
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But my phones all like new hehe
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But my phones all like new hehe
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I don't even use screen protector and people start to lecturing me (my phones don't look new but there's no major scratch on the screen). But you are just the type on a higher league, which is a lot harder to find in our community these days. Salute! notworthy.gif
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Seriously you guys will surprise at naked phone user ? Recent 5 years I'm using phone naked also ( only exception are pixel XL with wrap/skin ), no issue hmm.gif
I think depends on type of user ? I dont use phone while walking, am not phone addicts that always look at phone, so I really really rarely drop phone, past 3 years I cant recall once laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 30 2020, 01:19 AM)
Seriously you guys will surprise at naked phone user ? Recent 5 years I'm using phone naked also ( only exception are pixel XL with wrap/skin ), no issue  hmm.gif 
I think depends on type of user ? I dont use phone while walking, am not phone addicts that always look at phone, so I really really rarely drop phone, past 3 years I cant recall once  laugh.gif
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Probably not for some people, but for me, yeah notworthy.gif. I've seen a lot more people using naked phone 10 years back, but in the past 2-3 years, I've seen none doh.gif. Respect to you guys rclxm9.gif... What about you guys, have you seen one other than yourselves irl? If yes, around how many percent of all users roughly?
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You don't really need a screen protector unless you're really clumsy. Those with corning gorilla glass has enough protection against daily objects like keys or coins. Remember glass scratches at a level 6, with deeper grooves at a level 7.
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 30 2020, 01:34 AM)
Probably not for some people, but for me, yeah notworthy.gif. I've seen a lot more people using naked phone 10 years back, but in the past 2-3 years, I've seen none  doh.gif. Respect to you guys  rclxm9.gif... What about you guys, have you seen one other than yourselves irl? If yes, around how many percent of all users roughly?
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I suspect due to phone trend now, screen getting larger and larger, back cover also glass doh.gif

For naked phone user, mostly I saw is iphone 8 biggrin.gif those who refuse to leave fingerprint scanner. However, chances you saw an iPhone 8 WITHOUT cracked screen are low tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sp6068 @ May 30 2020, 01:37 AM)
You don't really need a screen protector unless you're really clumsy. Those with corning gorilla glass has enough protection against daily objects like keys or coins. Remember glass scratches at a level 6, with deeper grooves at a level 7.
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Be that as it may, I might as well grab a popcorn and watch the never ending argument on this topic lol. As a firm non screen protector phone user, I agree with you.


QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 30 2020, 02:09 AM)
I suspect due to phone trend now, screen getting larger and larger, back cover also glass  doh.gif

For naked phone user, mostly I saw is iphone 8  biggrin.gif  those who refuse to leave fingerprint scanner. However, chances you saw an iPhone 8 WITHOUT cracked screen are low  tongue.gif
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True. On the other hand, chances for me to recognise an iPhone is iPhone 8 are even much lower. Haha tongue.gif

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I don't use any screen protector and casing for my phones unless it comes with a screen protector out of the box.
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 30 2020, 01:10 AM)
I don't even use screen protector and people start to lecturing me (my phones don't look new but there's no major scratch on the screen). But you are just the type on a higher league, which is a lot harder to find in our community these days. Salute!  notworthy.gif
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yup...my phones are 99% above new hehe
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I don't use any screen protector and casing for my phones unless it comes with a screen protector out of the box.
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yup. me too. the reason i dont use case or sp is because it covers the true beauty of the phone. but I take good care (extremely) my phones like babies. even my 2016 axon 7 still look like 9999999.999999% new
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QUOTE(marcyeo @ May 30 2020, 09:12 AM)
yup. me too. the reason i dont use case or sp is because it covers the true beauty of the phone. but I take good care (extremely) my phones like babies. even my 2016 axon 7 still look like 9999999.999999% new
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I think the phone will be hotter during charging time if we use the case.
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QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 30 2020, 10:23 AM)
I think the phone will be hotter during charging time if we use the case.
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This is for sure
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ May 30 2020, 01:34 AM)
Probably not for some people, but for me, yeah notworthy.gif. I've seen a lot more people using naked phone 10 years back, but in the past 2-3 years, I've seen none  doh.gif. Respect to you guys  rclxm9.gif... What about you guys, have you seen one other than yourselves irl? If yes, around how many percent of all users roughly?
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I used to have sp but now been using naked for around half a year now. Back is a skin only, seldom use case unless I go exercise haha.
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QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 30 2020, 10:23 AM)
I think the phone will be hotter during charging time if we use the case.
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This is for sure
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No doubt.

QUOTE(zoixc @ May 30 2020, 11:32 AM)
I used to have sp but now been using naked for around half a year now. Back is a skin only, seldom use case unless I go exercise haha.
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Didn't expect quite a number of naked/skin phone users here haha

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I don't even use screen protector and people start to lecturing me (my phones don't look new but there's no major scratch on the screen). But you are just the type on a higher league, which is a lot harder to find in our community these days. Salute!  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 30 2020, 01:19 AM)
Seriously you guys will surprise at naked phone user ? Recent 5 years I'm using phone naked also ( only exception are pixel XL with wrap/skin ), no issue  hmm.gif 
I think depends on type of user ? I dont use phone while walking, am not phone addicts that always look at phone, so I really really rarely drop phone, past 3 years I cant recall once  laugh.gif
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No matter how careful u are u will put the phone in your pockets. There will definately be micro scratches here n there

I also thought i can go naked, but then took my phone out and got micro scratches on the screen. U have to look at certain angle then only can see.


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QUOTE(kevin23 @ May 30 2020, 01:35 PM)
No matter how careful u are u will put the phone in your pockets. There will definately be micro scratches here n there

I also thought i can go naked, but then took my phone out and got micro scratches on the screen. U have to look at certain angle then only can see.
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My phone only put alone in pocket. Pocket usually no sands or dust.
My Pixel XL, Poco F1 and current Mi9T all good, no noticeable scratches ( even if check at angles, light sources etc ), except tiny dent on poco f1 at the plastic body portion.

Depends on your behavior/usage really. There's careful people.
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 30 2020, 01:42 PM)
My phone only put alone in pocket. Pocket usually no sands or dust.
My Pixel XL, Poco F1 and current Mi9T all good, no noticeable scratches ( even if check at angles, light sources etc ), except tiny dent on poco f1 at the plastic body portion.

Depends on your behavior/usage really. There's careful people.
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Confirm got dust n sands wan la .. lol

And the screen can be scratched by the fabric too

I also thought no scratches until i put it under a bright light and checked.. got the shock of my life

After that, quickly put TG. Using S9 plus btw

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So who confirmed buying F2 Pro?
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ May 30 2020, 02:34 PM)
Confirm got dust n sands wan la .. lol

And the screen can be scratched by the fabric too

I also thought no scratches until i put it under a bright light and checked.. got the shock of my life

After that, quickly put TG. Using S9 plus btw
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Wow you secretly live in my house is it laugh.gif Perhaps you need to buy new washing machine biggrin.gif To make sure pockets dont caught all the sands and dust.

Fabric dont scratch. Sands or dust caught in your pocket's fabric does.
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I will eventually, but haven't decided whether gonna buy during the pre-order flash sale or later on.
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I will eventually, but haven't decided whether gonna buy during the pre-order flash sale or later on.
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What about realme x3 superzoom?
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What about realme x3 superzoom?
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Ya bro, I'm choosing between going for either the Realme X3 Superzoom or the Poco F2 Pro at launch - leaning towards the former coz it's cheaper by 200 bucks smile.gif
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Ya bro, I'm choosing between going for either the Realme X3 Superzoom or the Poco F2 Pro at launch - leaning towards the former coz it's cheaper by 200 bucks smile.gif
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Got official date yet for x3 launch?
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Next week on 2nd June smile.gif
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Next week on 2nd June smile.gif
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Nice, three more days to go rclxm9.gif
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Nice, three more days to go rclxm9.gif
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Yeah, and the Poco launches a week later laugh.gif

+ for the Poco: SD865, AMOLED, Full Screen, Easier to get 3rd party accessories (same as K30 Pro), IR port (which I hardly use)

+ for the X3: 120hz refresh rate, Cheaper, Better zoom capabilities, Realme UI (I'm using a Realme 6 now, so I prefer this over MIUI)

Anything else I missed?
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Ya bro, I'm choosing between going for either the Realme X3 Superzoom or the Poco F2 Pro at launch - leaning towards the former coz it's cheaper by 200 bucks smile.gif
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So you gonna sell off your Realme 6 which you bought 2 to 3 months ago?

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Yeah, and the Poco launches a week later laugh.gif

+ for the Poco: SD865, AMOLED, Full Screen, Easier to get 3rd party accessories (same as K30 Pro), IR port (which I hardly use)

+ for the X3: 120hz refresh rate, Cheaper, Better zoom capabilities, Realme UI (I'm using a Realme 6 now, so I prefer this over MIUI)

Anything else I missed?
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I don't think u missed anything important. From what u described few days ago, I'm pretty sure u did your homework well. There's nothing to lose, go for it 👍😁
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So you gonna sell off your Realme 6 which you bought 2 to 3 months ago?
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Yeah, once I'm used to the new phone (be it the X3 or the F2 Pro) - maybe 2 to 3 weeks of usage then I will let my Realme 6 go.

If I find the new phone to be below my expectations then I'll probably sell them and stick to the Realme 6, which I highly doubt will be the case.
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Yeah, once I'm used to the new phone (be it the X3 or the F2 Pro) - maybe 2 to 3 weeks of usage then I will let my Realme 6 go.

If I find the new phone to be below my expectations then I'll probably sell them and stick to the Realme 6, which I highly doubt will be the case.
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No matter which one you choose, should be better than Realme 6. So the chances for you to sell off your Realme 6 very high...😁

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Just only one downside to poco f2 pro, and its the absence of hdmi out support.

I'm leaning to Oneplus 7T mainly for this reason.
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I don't think u missed anything important. From what u described few days ago, I'm pretty sure u did your homework well. There's nothing to lose, go for it 👍😁
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X3 got 5g?
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No matter which one you choose, should be better than Realme 6. So the chances for you to sell off your Realme 6 very high...😁
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actually, poco malaysia (if there is Malaysia subs) is clever, last few days they announced 2199 and 2599 respective prices. made most people pissed off. then out of the sudden they announced rm1999 special price on 10th Jun. clever2. but Realme lagi clever potong jalan announced flash sales on 2th Jun rm1799. kebas first some of the potential buyers. bravo this 2 companies!! I am impressed hehe
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Nope, it uses a SD855+ chipset, no 5G support
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Ya bro, I'm choosing between going for either the Realme X3 Superzoom or the Poco F2 Pro at launch - leaning towards the former coz it's cheaper by 200 bucks smile.gif
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Between the two, poco f2 pro is definitely superior.

In terms of camera and processor. Also got things like headphone jack. I’m also thinking if want to pre-order but hate the fact it don’t have HDMI output. I like the fact it doesn’t have notch.
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QUOTE(marcyeo @ May 30 2020, 11:45 PM)
actually, poco malaysia (if there is Malaysia subs) is clever, last few days they announced 2199 and 2599 respective prices. made most people pissed off. then out of the sudden they announced rm1999 special price on 10th Jun. clever2. but Realme lagi clever potong jalan announced flash sales on 2th Jun rm1799. kebas first some of the potential buyers. bravo this 2 companies!! I am impressed hehe
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Yeap the psychological warfare that we consumers must go through.

Actual rrp of poco f2 pro is actually RM1999 but they make you believe you are getting a deal. Who can resist that?
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QUOTE(ashraf095 @ May 31 2020, 12:27 AM)
5G in SD865 phones is not integrated inside the chip though. If they actually wanna put 5G, I think they can just add the 5G modem just like Mi Mix 3 5G and Mi 9 Pro 5G.
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You are right, but with snapdragon 865, Qualcomm makes it compulsory to have 5G. So you are guaranteed 5G if you bought any snapdragon 865 phone this year.
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will F2 got ghost touch issue? i'm selling my F1 because of this sweat.gif
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Hi guys, I'm struggle between note 10 lite 8gb and F2 PRO 6gb, wish u guys can advise on it.

Currently using redmi note 5, overall I'm happy with this phone after 2years, battery still stay strong even using it for hotspot everyday but some how now I feel the UI little bit slow but still acceptable, not sure if I change to either 1 of the new phone will feel fast response/smoothness on the UI ?

1 of the main reason to upgrade is for the AOD function, I'm not a gamer, basically my usage is just for

-messaging
-video call,
-music/podcast
-ewallet
-chrome

Is both of this phone support DIGI volte?
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Between the two, poco f2 pro is definitely superior.

In terms of camera and processor. Also got things like headphone jack. I’m also thinking if want to pre-order but hate the fact it don’t have HDMI output. I like the fact it doesn’t have notch.
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Yeap the psychological warfare that we consumers must go through.

Actual rrp of poco f2 pro is actually RM1999 but they make you believe you are getting a deal. Who can resist that?
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QUOTE(bangolufsen @ May 31 2020, 12:51 AM)
You are right, but with snapdragon 865, Qualcomm makes it compulsory to have 5G. So you are guaranteed 5G if you bought any snapdragon 865 phone this year.
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Bro, use the multi-quote feature to reply to several posts in one go or you might get flagged by the moderators for spamming laugh.gif

Just click on the "+Quote" button on the posts you wanna reply to and click the "Add Reply" button at the bottom.

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will F2 got ghost touch issue? i'm selling my F1 because of this  sweat.gif
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F1 with touchscreen issues (majority ppl have it) gaming experience sux... especially for those games that requires high precision and 0 mistakes... one random ghost touch or sudden lost touch can make you throw the phone.
Many friends ask me if they should buy f1 for gaming and my answer always "No"
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will F2 got ghost touch issue? i'm selling my F1 because of this  sweat.gif
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Pray they not use the lousy/cheapo parts again.
F1 with touchscreen issues (majority ppl have it) gaming experience sux... especially for those games that requires high precision and  0 mistakes... one random ghost touch or sudden lost touch can make you throw the phone.
Many friends ask me if they should buy f1 for gaming and my answer always "No"
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It's an AMOLED display this time around, so I'm sure it's gonna be superior to the low cost LCD screen of the F1. Besides, there hasn't been any reports of ghost touch issues on the K30 Pro and since it is essentially the same phone, I think it should be OK smile.gif
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It's an AMOLED display this time around, so I'm sure it's gonna be superior to the low cost LCD screen of the F1. Besides, there hasn't been any reports of ghost touch issues on the K30 Pro and since it is essentially the same phone, I think it should be OK smile.gif
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U aiming for poco bro?when is the promo price. Maybe interested to try also. Haha
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U aiming for poco bro?when is the promo price. Maybe interested to try also. Haha
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I'm torn between the Poco F2 Pro or the Realme X3 Superzoom, bro. But yeah, I'm definitely gonna get one to try eventually, just a matter of which one to try first, hahaha...

The Poco F2 Pro promo will be on June 10th, RM1999 for the 6/128 config. Value for money SD865 device smile.gif

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I'm torn between the Poco F2 Pro or the Realme X3 Superzoom, bro. But yeah, I'm definitely gonna get one to try eventually, just a matter of which one to try first, hahaha...

The Poco F2 Pro promo will be on June 10th, RM1999 for the 8/128 config. Value for money SD865 device smile.gif
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1999 is for 6gb/128gb only
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Oh it's a 6 and not 8GB RAM.. sorry, my bad smile.gif
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Hi guys, I'm struggle between note 10 lite 8gb and F2 PRO 6gb, wish u guys can advise on it.

Currently using redmi note 5, overall I'm happy with this phone after 2years, battery still stay strong even using it for hotspot everyday but some how now I feel the UI little bit slow but still acceptable, not sure if I change to either 1 of the new phone will feel fast response/smoothness on the UI ?

1 of the main reason to upgrade is for the AOD function, I'm not a gamer, basically my usage is just for

-messaging
-video call,
-music/podcast
-ewallet
-chrome

Is both of this phone support DIGI volte?
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Made up your mind already? Care to share some thoughts? Here's some of my thoughts regarding aod, video call and music podcast with poco f2 pro (disclaimer: I don't have a poco f2 pro, but I have redmi k30 pro zoom which the specs are quite similar, and they both have the same firmware code. And I don't own a Note 10 lite either, but I do have a Samsung Note8 in the past).

Aod:
Its obviously better on Samsung phones. Drain less battery (1% vs 2%), better execution (double tap notification on Samsung aod brings you straight to the corresponding apps, while on Poco it does nothing). Aod turns off automatically and immediately as soon as the phone gets into the pocket or the display is facing down - less battery drain) while with Poco it takes literally a minute or more to turn the aod off in similar situation. While I have to admit the new animated aod on miui 12 looks pretty cool, the way how Samsung handle is still better and more practical in my opinion.

Video call:
Shoudnt be a problem so long u r making static call and not walking/running around. The front camera doesn't have EIS, let alone OIS. So video call will become shaky if u r moving around with the Poco phone. Not sure about note 10 lite.

Music/podcast:
Pros: Hi-res resolution certified paired with wired headphone.
Minor cons: Hi-res doesn't mean the phone drives high impedance headphone, but in most cases shouldn't be a problem for lower impedance headphone. Other than that, when pairing with bluetooth headphone, the volume controls on both headphone and the phone are separated.

Another cons of poco is that ads are built into the system. Some people say ads cannot be disabled while others claim they can disable the ads. Other way round is to flash the phone to EU Rom where the built in ads are removed by the developers.

There you have it. Hope it helps somehow.

Edit: Samsung aod can control ongoing music too, but I don't find it that useful. Also I forgot uve been using redmi for quite sometime, so you must be more familiar than me on how the ads work in the phone.

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QUOTE(mfa682 @ Jun 1 2020, 01:30 PM)
Made up your mind already? Care to share some thoughts? Here's some of my thoughts regarding aod, video call and music podcast with poco f2 pro (disclaimer: I don't have a poco f2 pro, but I have redmi k30 pro zoom which the specs are quite similar, and they both have the same firmware code. And I don't own a Note 10 lite either, but I do have a Samsung Note8 in the past).

Aod:
Its obviously better on Samsung phones. Drain less battery (1% vs 2%), better execution (double tap notification on Samsung aod brings you straight to the corresponding apps, while on Poco it does nothing). Aod turns off automatically and immediately as soon as the phone gets into the pocket or the display is facing down - less battery drain) while with Poco it takes literally a minute or more to turn the aod off in similar situation. While I have to admit the new animated aod on miui 12 looks pretty cool, the way how Samsung handle is still better and more practical in my opinion.

Video call:
Shoudnt be a problem so long u r making static call and not walking/running around. The front camera doesn't have EIS, let alone OIS. So video call will become shaky if u r moving around with the Poco phone. Not sure about note 10 lite.

Music/podcast:
Pros: Hi-res resolution certified paired with wired headphone.
Minor cons: Hi-res doesn't mean the phone drives high impedance headphone, but in most cases shouldn't be a problem for lower impedance headphone. Other than that, when pairing with bluetooth headphone, the volume controls on both headphone and the phone are separated.

Another cons of poco is that ads are built into the system. Some people say ads cannot be disabled while others claim they can disable the ads. Other way round is to flash the phone to EU Rom where the built in ads are removed by the developers.

There you have it. Hope it helps somehow.
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Ads are the most annoying aspect of MIUI. I wonder if they also exist in their premium Mi 10 series. It's OK to tolerate the ads when you know you are paying cheap for the phone, but at the price they are charging for the Mi 10 series and to still expect buyers to tolerate the ads would be an injustice laugh.gif
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Ads are the most annoying aspect of MIUI. I wonder if they also exist in their premium Mi 10 series. It's OK to tolerate the ads when you know you are paying cheap for the phone, but at the price they are charging for the Mi 10 series and to still expect buyers to tolerate the ads would be an injustice laugh.gif
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Yeah, the xiaomi flagship isn't cheap anymore. IMHO, oneplus 8 Pro is way much better value for money, and better in most aspects too.
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ Jun 1 2020, 01:59 PM)
Yeah, the xiaomi flagship isn't cheap anymore. IMHO, oneplus 8 Pro is way much better value for money, and better in most aspects too.
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True, the price points of the Mi 10 and Mi 10 Pro competes directly with the OP8 and OP8 Pro, and I'd agree those would be better options.
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For this new poco f2 pro, have same issue like poco f1. Celcom, maxis 4 big telco no 4g+?
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For this new poco f2 pro,  have same issue like poco f1. Celcom, maxis 4 big telco no 4g+?
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Too soon to tell since it has yet to sell officially. But my redmi k30 pro zoom got 4g+ for maxis. There are options to enable volte and vowifi too but I'm not sure if it'd work since maxis don't support them both.
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ Jun 1 2020, 03:09 PM)
Too soon to tell since it has yet to sell officially. But my redmi k30 pro zoom got 4g+ for maxis. There are options to enable volte and vowifi too but I'm not sure if it'd work since maxis don't support them both.
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Thanks for your reply. Poco f1 4g network sometime really slow compare with other phone with 4g+. Especially now work from home
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Thanks for your reply. Poco f1 4g network sometime really slow compare with other phone with 4g+. Especially now work from home
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Agree. Although is just a step up between the two bands, it makes a whole world of difference.
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After much thought and careful consideration, think I'll try this over the X3 Superzoom laugh.gif
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After much thought and careful consideration, think I'll try this over the X3 Superzoom laugh.gif
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Hahahaha, what changed your mind btw?
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I think the experience on the X3 Superzoom won't be too much different from my current experience with the Realme 6. Besides, I did say if the phone comes below RM2k I will buy it and try, so it might be disingenuous not to, hahaha.

But yeah, it's the cheapest SD865 experience for now smile.gif
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I think the experience on the X3 Superzoom won't be too much different from my current experience with the Realme 6. Besides, I did say if the phone comes below RM2k I will buy it and try, so it might be disingenuous not to, hahaha.

But yeah, it's the cheapest SD865 experience for now smile.gif
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Bro, our of curiosity what colour is your K30 Pro Zoom?
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Grey, why? Any colour of interest?
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will F2 got ghost touch issue? i'm selling my F1 because of this  sweat.gif
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+1

I also experience the same thing.
Sometime typing too fast, the touch sensor will misinterpret and close all the screen.
90% when first time take picture via whatsapp, the image will a layer of blue filter. Always force me to take 2nd pic..but i am still using it sweat.gif
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Grey, why? Any colour of interest?
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The back is matte right? Leaning towards grey too smile.gif
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I'm not sure if it's totally matte. It has a slight slippery feel unlike the roughness that matte colour usually gives.

Iinm the back is covered with gorilla glass, and together with the base colour it's like a matte colour with marble like reflection that gives a "depth" look. Sorry damn it's really hard for me to describe lol.

Regardless what it is, it's not a fingerprint magnet. I'm kinda tempted to use it naked but then since I'm going to use this phone for at least 2 years, so I put it back into my tpu casing 🤣
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Every specs info about the phone is at the first page.....
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ Jun 1 2020, 10:40 PM)
I'm not sure if it's totally matte. It has a slight slippery feel unlike the roughness that matte colour usually gives.

Iinm the back is covered with gorilla glass, and together with the base colour it's like a matte colour with marble like reflection that gives a "depth" look. Sorry damn it's really hard for me to describe lol.

Regardless what it is, it's not a fingerprint magnet. I'm kinda tempted to use it naked but then since I'm going to use this phone for at least 2 years, so I put it back into my tpu casing 🤣
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QUOTE(Jebsee @ Jun 1 2020, 08:19 PM)
Haha SD865 ftw
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SD865 only if you game, but I would wait for Exynos RDNA for that. I think if you're buying for 5G, I think prepare to wait until 2022 or 2023.

Can't wait for cortex X1 and how it will destroy A series chip.
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QUOTE(attw @ Jun 1 2020, 07:23 PM)
After much thought and careful consideration, think I'll try this over the X3 Superzoom laugh.gif
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Thanx for "maintaining" the +1.4% growth contribution to Xiaomi's Global Sales performance despite of pandemic...

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No more flagships above RM2,000 is allowed in 2020...LOL...
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QUOTE(attw @ Jun 1 2020, 11:35 PM)
Hahaha, ok, I’ll probably be using it with a case too.
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haha shit

you really is king of snapdragon huh

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i think i also will jump ship soon after boring with 2 hours charge 0-100 hahahaha

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no more exynos for 2020

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Jun 2 2020, 10:58 AM)
Thanx for "maintaining" the +1.4% growth contribution to Xiaomi's Global Sales performance despite of pandemic...

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No more flagships above RM2,000 is allowed in 2020...LOL...
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Except iPhones, hahahaha....

QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jun 2 2020, 12:12 PM)
haha shit

you really is king of snapdragon huh

drool.gif  rclxm9.gif

i think i also will jump ship soon after boring with 2 hours charge 0-100 hahahaha

brows.gif  icon_idea.gif

no more exynos for 2020
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Hahaha, I have no loyalty to Snapdragon bro, even my current Realme 6 on Mediatek is doing great - going into third month of usage already, hahaha... For me, the charging speed is not an issue. I'm more bothered by overnight/idle battery drain which seems to plague Exynos processors, so yeah, no Exynos for me this year unless it comes super cheap and I want to try it for fun, hahaha..
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QUOTE(attw @ Jun 1 2020, 08:23 PM)
I think the experience on the X3 Superzoom won't be too much different from my current experience with the Realme 6. Besides, I did say if the phone comes below RM2k I will buy it and try, so it might be disingenuous not to, hahaha.

But yeah, it's the cheapest SD865 experience for now smile.gif
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x3 is snapdragon 855+ right?
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QUOTE(marcyeo @ Jun 2 2020, 08:24 PM)
x3 is snapdragon 855+ right?
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Yes bro, correct thumbup.gif
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RealMe X3 is interesting, but I'm used to MIUI duo app where both apps works seamlessly together.

Is there another manufacturer Android OS that have this capability?
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QUOTE(loutze @ Jun 3 2020, 09:52 AM)
RealMe X3 is interesting, but I'm used to MIUI duo app where both apps works seamlessly together.

Is there another manufacturer Android OS that have this capability?
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same here, i install two maybank apps, both work with finger print but only main one can use secure 2U smile.gif
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QUOTE(loutze @ Jun 3 2020, 09:52 AM)
RealMe X3 is interesting, but I'm used to MIUI duo app where both apps works seamlessly together.

Is there another manufacturer Android OS that have this capability?
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Are you gonna get the Poco F2 Pro then? smile.gif

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