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Xiaomi POCO F2 Pro, The New Flagship killer?

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post May 13 2020, 07:39 PM

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Finally 😄
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post May 13 2020, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(Punish @ May 13 2020, 09:11 PM)
While the k30pro got ois?
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Only the k30 pro zoom edition got OIS on both main and telephoto lens. But it lacks macro lense
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post May 14 2020, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(Punish @ May 14 2020, 07:30 AM)
Some like you may say its ancient, just like 1080p ppl often say its an old tech considering, but fact of the matter is 60hz and 1080p is still acceptable standard today, its more than enough for most ppl. Somemore most the games and apps still dont support higher refresh rates anyway and not to mention its drain battery like vampire also...yes higher refresh rates its nice to have, but its certainly not a deal breaker....

Ps: if you guys put a 90hz refresh rates as your main priority, bigger than other spec....please buy the realme 6 then and you can enjoy scrolling your apps drawer all day long....its alot cheaper somemore...
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Haters gonna hate. Must be nice seeing a lot of other people living in an era of "ancient" technology.

QUOTE(zr125 @ May 14 2020, 08:09 AM)
what's the real difference between k30 pro? in term of hardware, all exactly the same right? including the liquid cooling thingy?
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The only difference I could find is that, in terms of hardware, redmi k30 pro doesn't support B20 LTE (which isn't supported in Malaysia anyway). I'm guessing rhe liquid cooling thingy is the same but sorry I have no supporting evidence for this.

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post May 14 2020, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 14 2020, 07:46 AM)
I doubt it will be this cheap, probably rm2200-2400

There’s no snapdragon 865 below rm2800 at the moment.
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Agree.

But I think realme x50 pro is about the same price (AP set ofc, not sure about local set though).
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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 14 2020, 09:33 AM)
X50 pro hasn’t officially release in Malaysia right?

At the moment can only get x2 pro, and that phone hasn’t dropped in price since launch in December.
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I'm not sure myself lol

The x2 pro must be selling like hotcake, it's hard to see phone price keeps sustaining after a few months
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post May 14 2020, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(marcyeo @ May 14 2020, 10:24 AM)
well...it is just my instinct hehe...if 1899 to 1999 will be awesome
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Noooooo... Don't drop too fast cause I just bought my k30 pro zoom at rm2450 lololol

QUOTE(jcksn81 @ May 14 2020, 10:43 AM)
This phone can't given 90hz screen is to give way to his big brother Mi 10 Pro...  Remember last year how's Redmi K20 Pro slam Mi 9 sales ??

To protect Mi 10 Pro so this phone have to sacrifice the 90hz refresh rate then shut up ur mouth with bigger 4700mAH battery given...
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 14 2020, 10:55 AM)
Dont think 60Hz to 120Hz display refresh rate are technology breakthrough  biggrin.gif
I havent own smartphone with over 60Hz display refresh rate yet, so cant be 100% sure, but I think the 'smoothness of user experience' largely affected by OS/software optimization.
When I use OG Pixel XL few years back, I'm amazed at that iOS level smoothness, but when 'upgraded' to newer phone like poco F1 and xiaomi mi9T, that extreme smoothness gone missing. Poco F1 does felt fast but not smooth.

IMO what's require are higher than 60hz, let's say 90Hz. So when framerate dropped ( which happened on games required heavy resources ), it dropped from 90fps to 72fps etc, which still felt smooth.
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Software optimisation plays a major role in smoothness. I really hope miui 12 that they are going to release next month get better than all of their predecessors.

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post May 14 2020, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 14 2020, 06:00 PM)
Slow-mo video are not really good way to prove.


Not saying 90Hz or 120Hz are useless, but most people exaggerated it's effectiveness in real life, can be just placebo effect.

I'm using 100Hz PC monitor, do I felt different when browsing, watch youtube ? absolutely no. Only when games capable of 80-100fps can I felt it.
How does a game which my PC can only run around 40fps on my 100Hz monitor ? felt sluggish.

90Hz or 120Hz display, need to pair with OS or software capable of utilize it. I'm not yet confident that xiaomi and thus poco already perfect MIUI to 90fps or 120fps ( waiting MIUI 12 please  laugh.gif  ) so really it's just certain games that support 90-120Hz can you enjoy it.

90Hz and 90fps are not the same  biggrin.gif
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Phonearena ran about the same test. Result is almost the same too. I'm quite frustrated with xda moderators because they haven't created a thread for k30 pro/F2 pro eventhough quite a number of members have requested to open one. I'm waiting for miui 12 and also for the dev to upload share their work on 80hz.

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post May 15 2020, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ May 14 2020, 07:56 PM)
Yeah, if they can keep it lower then iPhone SE, that would be great news!
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I think that'd be possible a few months after launch, hopefully.

QUOTE(khreve @ May 15 2020, 01:43 PM)
in 2020 who still need SD cards?  lol..... get the 256GB storage...

I would skip 90Hz screen, but want OIS instead

about 5G, nah..... maybe in 2022/23.....
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I watched two videos comparing standard k30 pro and zoom edition (one without OIS while the other dual OIS), not much different in terms of pictures and video quality. But then again I still opted for zoom edition lol.
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QUOTE(attw @ May 15 2020, 04:47 PM)
So the only difference between the K30 Pro Zoom and non Zoom is only the OIS and nothing else?
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Hardware wise, it's the camera setup. The zoom edition replaces macro lens on regular pro with 3x telephoto lens with OIS iinm. So no telephoto lens and hybrid zoom on regular pro and can only digital zoom up to 10x. The zoom edition can hybrid zoom upto 30x. The regular pro still looks promising I think, who wants to zoom 30x anyway lol. Other than that the regular pro only has EIS in main camera while the zoom one has OIS instead.
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QUOTE(Punish @ May 15 2020, 06:38 PM)
Okay what if we get the k30pro zoom edition instead of pocof2p.....will the band work fine here in malaysia...?
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I don't have the phone myself but I think it shouldn't be a problem unless our telcos here decide to overwrite previous LTE band with B20. As far as I know we don't use B20 here in Malaysia.

https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibilit...mi-imi/malaysia

https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibilit...imipro/malaysia

The video here explains everything if anyone has doubt to choose between k30p and f2p

https://youtu.be/wTITyqekmpk

As for ads that come with the stock China ROM, flashing xiaomi.eu ROM will get rid of those, but that will void the warranty I think? But that's not really a problem to me since there hasn't been a single phone yet that I didn't root or jailbreak from day one once I got them. Screw warranty, never use them anyway 🤣
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post May 16 2020, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(marcyeo @ May 16 2020, 08:56 PM)
Well....as i said it before in here. The poco f2 pro is around USD500. so my instinct is materialising....rm2000 or less tongue.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgysj8Q4NdQ
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Any chance you're getting one if it's less than rm2000 bro? rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(marcyeo @ May 16 2020, 09:18 PM)
definitely! I need to buy new material for my channel tongue.gif
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Awesome! rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(marcyeo @ May 16 2020, 09:26 PM)
pls support2 my channel ya hehehe
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Will do biggrin.gif
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post May 17 2020, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 17 2020, 04:29 AM)
YES 4G is using 4G band 20.
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Didn't know that, thanks for the heads up! Then it'd be troublesome for yes 4g users.

Edit: The B20 is for commercial use? On Wikipedia it says its for trial under Yes 4G.

Edit2: Found an article Yes 4g deploys B20 in some areas in KL/Selangor.

https://www.malaysiainternet.my/2019/11/ytl-yes4g-800mhz/

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post May 17 2020, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 17 2020, 09:47 AM)
Maybe our government wants to commercialize the B20.

If Redmi K30 Pro Zoom edition is officially launched in Malaysia, I believe Xiaomi will give 4G B20 to the phone.

All Xiaomi Redmi phones that officially launched in Malaysia have 4G band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/38/40.

For U Mobile users, 4G band 7 is the most important for them.
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I see. That'd be quite congested since the government is also planning to initiate and expand 5g network, which is only a matter of time. I find it funny when 5g project is already in the plan while us maxis users are still waiting for VoLTE.

I wonder when the zoom edition will be commercialised here.
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QUOTE(attw @ May 17 2020, 10:04 AM)
Hopefully MY official price is lower than this

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Hopefully. Soon bro soon 😁

Btw they forgot to change the logo. Damn kantoi 🤣
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post May 17 2020, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ May 17 2020, 10:30 AM)
Maybe MAXIS is going to give Vo5G, not VoLTE.

Hopefully Xiaomi Malaysia will be more aggressive in our market since the late comer - realme market share already exceeds Xiaomi.
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Vo5G? As one of the maxis customers I'm quite sceptical but why not icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(attw @ May 17 2020, 10:33 AM)
For all you know this seller is trying to pull a fast one on us, hahaha...
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Couldn't agree more 🤣🤣

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post May 17 2020, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ May 17 2020, 12:57 PM)
How about RM8k? laugh.gif

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Lolololololol 🤣️ 🤣️. 8k...Im speechless 😆
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post May 17 2020, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ May 17 2020, 01:37 PM)
I'm pretty sure it's just a "placeholder" of some sort. Suspect the phone will be made official pretty soon laugh.gif
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I see. That makes sense. But I bet if someone buys that at rm8k, that seller will be happily obliged to deliver the unit icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(attw @ May 17 2020, 02:12 PM)
For 8k I think he will deliver two units, buy one free one biggrin.gif
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Yeah lol 🤣

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