Hi sifu... Otai Otai... sekalian

Any review can share for the new CB650R?
Couldn't find any post an post about this bike?

Pros ... cons?

Thanks

foreign review alot oredi. youtube etc..

con is for tht price.. u can get slightly used z900

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4797723

z900 is almost 1liter bike..

the closest u can get to 1liter, modern bike...

This post has been edited by basilisk: Jun 30 2019, 08:58 PM

Thanks bro, I'm doing some homework for beginner bike while looking at MT07 was quite a bargain for it priced and CB650R came with better equipment. So wonder if any owner here can give some review of thier ownership on this inline 4 =).

You've owned 6 gears motorcycle before? IINM, there are no gear indicators (except for N?) so, if you a beginner, that maybe a letdown, though you can self learn (gear engagement & ratio yada yada) it afterwards.

Worry not for the inline 4, you'll enjoy the sound of the inline 4 anytime of the day

For my opinion, definitely go with the CB650R
MT07 38K, its a good bike, but if compare with the CB650R 42K

It has everything MT07 has, but more: eg. 20+ HP, Traction control, inline 4, slightly better build quality, Full LED

I dont comment on look and stuff, as it is personal preference.

There is gear indicator in the new CB650R (not F)

This post has been edited by minmin: Jul 1 2019, 02:34 PM

have you watched this video?

if you hvnot, watch n listen carefully the comparison.. and understand the difference btween the two bikes...

for msia, the price of mt07 is abit overpriced, for what you get..,

compared to a bike like z650,,


the honda doesnt have the engine character and weight of the mt07.

Thanks for the correction. TIL

CB650R is a very popular bike because of the Neo Sports Cafe design.

I recently checked at Honda BigWing PJ while surveying the new CBR500R, and was told that the waiting list for CB650R is 2~3 months - that's almost like the popular Yamaha kapchais and scooters.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that they had stock for the CBR650R, the fairing-equipped one, but not the CB650R.

This post has been edited by blackbox14: Jul 1 2019, 08:58 PM

Thanks all... yes I'd watch couple of video on YouTube but mostly from EU not sure any differences if anyone local do the review =)

Yeah... sound most ppl like it here guess my thought is right. Yes, MT07 abit let down for the price during the review given and CB650R was given a better rate.

@blackbox14, didnt know it's a hit selling cake now. U planning to cash buy or ? If loan rate r the rate good?

Thanks all =)

CB650R is way beyond my budget. I was looking at the 2019 CBR500R.

Now deciding between 500R and Ninja 400 because of their similar performance. Hopefully can buy cash, because I'm not good at negotiating shop loans and they tend to be really expensive.

Last time I went Honda Big Wing they offer me 3.1 P. A for CBR500R with 10k deposit.... Maybe you can ask if still have similar promotional rate.

I think that offer still exists, but only for the older models up to 2018. When I went and asked about the 2019 models, they didn't even have an OTR price list yet.

Another problem I had was that Honda BigWing doesn't accept trade-ins of bikes under 250cc category. I was hoping to trade-in my NMAX 155.

Even UK model is made in Thailand, it's the same specs.

Have you tried Ee Tiong? They are in both big bike and moped market. Maybe can try asking them.

Aiya.... I was thinking to treat in mine too the nvx =)
Maybe sendiri jual d but about 1k diff if trade in which I was told. Nv really when to any bike shop ask the price yet. Been bz travelling

If 38k vs 42k with more well equipped the CB650R sound like a better choice. Tempted man.

should be collecting my bike this week, keep you guys posted, and i'm a newbie too, just got my full B not too long ago

i was thinking of Ninja 650 but seeing the difference of inline 2 (iirc) and inline 4, gosh the sound itself made me changed my mind immediately and i notice ninja 650 vibrates a lot even quite a new bike ...

cbr650r or cb650r ??

Can I audition your bike? We go TT.

cbr650r

can but i need some time to practice 1st lol

No need ...I audition your bike no need you to practice.
You just pass me the bike key.

Hahahaha

You want to join also?

dont lah, i also just new rider. Later something gone wrong owner kill me~

Hahaha wow best keep ur review posted... can share what r ur deal given like? Package how much, gifts ... etc?

hahahaa

nice try

not much deal, only some cash rebate, loan from AEON also not so great

So... On or not?

Ermm.... if u can share more ... =)

Congratulations on your purchase!!

congratulations on your new purchase and welcome to the club

I also want to join so when u got the keys ride up to Penang for me to audition too

delivery will be next monday, this friday only going for inspection ... slow like turtle

So exciting even though it's not my bike.

for Monday Blues


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Wow! Congrats for the new bike. Next will be ur exhaust system =)

i'm not really sure how to give a review but i try my best

height : 172cm
weight : 84kg
years of experience with a bike : 0

Appearance is based on personal view, for me i like it as it's modern and those LEDs are a point plus over others.

Handling - pretty good even for a newbie like me and if compared to er6n in JPJ school, the kawasaki felt heavier but of coz it's a learning school's bike so i'm not sure how does a new 1 feels.

Odometer - full digital display + gear indication (very important for beginner like me), time, trip A, tank capacity, RPM, speed, engine temp, etc etc

Suspension - comfy, expect to hop on some uneven roads but didn't feel a thing (i guess this bike is heavier and doesn't bump up much on uneven road)

Tires - no idea yet

Clutch & Shift - pretty alright if you understand how to drive a manual car but the engine speed is totally different, the RPM doesnt dip but revs higher after changing gear (feels like auto throttle once you upshift) , adjustment needed on the gear lever to suit 1's preferable angle (for me normal sneakers is ok but once with boot, difficult to up/down as the boots are thicker), releasing is almost 2/3 of the clutch then only it moves, can be changed but up to personal choice.

Engine - rev happy and torque is more than enough (imo), i pretty like it as whenever you need to rev, don't really need to downshift to get the power ... traction control, abs as standard.

Brakes - sufficient although i haven't do any emergency with it yet, but so far so good.

Weighs around 204kg (iirc) and it's pretty bulky (although slimmer from the prev gen) and not easy if you decide to park in head 1st, regardless flat road or not, i always do reverse in as getting out is pretty easier than reversing/pushing the bike (my 1st mistake i went head in and ended up pushing the bike out).

One small little compartment, well actually u cant fit anything but a 250ml bottle confirm can.

That's all i guess, if any1 got question just post and i will reply,

P/s : wherever i go with the bike i'm always on full gear, Mesh Jacket with back pad, chest pad, elbow pad integrated, gloves with sliders, boots, knee and side shin pad, thigh protector and lower back protector, it's quite troublesome and bulky but i guess if you are a beginner better be safe than sorry.

Hey, glad to hear you're enjoying your new bike and thanks for the brief review.

This is something I need to get used to as well. With my NMAX I can still get away with it to some degree, but once I change to something heavier, there's no room for mistakes.

Good. That bike, while friendly, is still pretty fast and heavy. I don't recommend riding without gears. You could consider getting riding jeans or pants that have protectors in place of the pads though.

My question: as a 172cm guy, can you flatfoot the bike on both feet?

I've been riding big bikes for more than 25 years now.

Even until today, how pro I am...I will always wear my full safety gears whether I ride, wear like this even on my daily ride to work.

Troublesome or not...safety first.
When you are critically injured, you life will be more troublesome. Think about it.

It will be too late by the time you regret for not wearing full safety gears.

with sneakers 85% can, with boots 100% can ... either way flatfoot both feet not a good option as our roads are not that flat afterall, mostly i keep my right leg on the back brakes and left foot on the road while holding the clutch during traffic stops ... that's my way thou, some prefer front brakes and right leg on the road, but now i'm practicing to be at N and be quicker to start after the lights turn green.

pants with integrated pads i did take a look, unfortunately size matters for the waistline and the length of the pants with big waistline, i'm not sure if can ask aunty tailor to alter it later as the material is kinda stretchable.

yes sir, unless if i go tapau food outside my house then maybe jacket only and sneakers. 2 mins ride only lolz, but if i go back to my workplace although 10mins away, i still wear full/half full

It is troublesome when you just want to go out for a ride but safety first. Usually will start sweating and swearing before going on the bike but safety is always more important. Do ride in your comfort zone and do not let peer pressure make you ride faster than your angel and experience

I too wear 90% of full gear (except pants) to work. I prefer to come out safe in an accident than spending few months in hospital recovering and going through physio.

sweating part is painful, luckily i bought a modular helmet, sometimes open up to wipe off the sweat on the face that tickles, lolz

I'm around the same height as you (171~173) but less physically capable due to illness. Even when using my scooter which is 136kg, I occasionally have to put both feet down to keep the bike upright. Knowing that I can do so on a bike gives me confidence, even though I know the best practice is to put the left foot down and keep the right one on the rear brake.

That being said, the real problem is when waddling the bike to park it. If I can't put both feet on the ground, I have a difficult time parking.

i also got modular. make sure u open up ur modular not while riding. When I on the go I am fine cause of the wind. The problem is before getting on the bike and after the ride. That's when I will sweat a lot

Choose one ... You prefer to sweat or bleed ?

should i get cb650r or vulcan s?

cb650r have all the goodies but 40k+
vulcan s at almost half the price 27k+

both also looks so good

New Vulcan should be at 36k before OTR. Spec wise Honda win all. But riding position totally different. Both not really comparable.

New Vulcan s got abs ?

I sold my Vulcan s after riding for 2 years because no abs.
Else I will continue riding this bike.

no abs still..

price will increase more if abs.. for vulcan , versys...

That sucks.

Actually the CB650R n MT09 price gap a minor different... kinda dilemma. Of coz CC wise MT09 win hands down.

Any advice?

if buy new, depen on ur priority

u wan d look? spec? hardcore custom guy? etc etc...

a used 1st gen mt09 can get for less than 30k, with mod, can be a xsr or even nicer..

these are sold for 49k rm.. still got ppl buy...



This post has been edited by basilisk: Jul 13 2019, 11:50 AM

still no, just new military green color and add on gear indicator on odometer, thats why new price is really suck~

Test ride both
And decide yourself

You can easily compare the specs sheets.
But the feel, the ride, you have you test it yourself

Really sucks
Save Money comes first... Safety comes second

morning guys, sorry to interrupt the topic here. I am newbie too and looking for my 1st ever big bike and struggling between CBR650R and CBR500R. Although i know CBR500R is more suit for newbie like me, but i dont want to regret later and change the higher cc bike unless i am rich (but i am not, hahaha). Need sifu's opinion here.

Have you owned smaller bikes before?

Go for the 650R if you can handle the extra price, weight, maintenance and wear & tear costs. Keep in mind that it uses a bit more engine oil because it's a 4 cylinder bike. Since you're new, you won't get tired of it for a long time. Just be mindful of that throttle.

However, the best way to know is to testride or at least sit on both bikes for a while. Get whichever one you feel more confident on because once you make the purchase, you will have to live with all the shortcomings of the bike.

EDIT: I'm not a sifu-level/otai-level biker or anything, just a regular rider who has made the mistake of buying bikes whose shortcomings I couldn't live with before. So be very, very comfortable with what you're about to spend that much money on, or you will regret it.

This post has been edited by blackbox14: Jul 29 2019, 02:49 PM

Go for 650R if you can afford on financial and physical. Higher CC is not a problem, just put more time to get comfortable with it. DONT SPEED before you know what you doing.
My 1st biker also 650cc, no riding experience before that as well. So far no major issue except tired after riding. haha

Package

hi,
just notice this discussion about CB650R
looking to get this too, only after i moved to landed house next year
*apartment to scary later my bike missing/brake set stolen etc



This is price i get quoted from big wing last 2 month
not sure latest or not

Have you bought it TS?

wah, after reading all the post....me newbie also....CB250R or CB650R leh? i am actually looking to get cb250R cuz its beginner friendly.

This post has been edited by ExCrIpT: Sep 11 2019, 12:46 PM

CB650R if financially can afford.

at least 4 used cb250r for sale in mudah...

this owner no choice lower to 16k, just 2xxx km only..

and now oni i noe it doesnt have gear indicator...

i saw this thread. it has deep scratches on the tank body and the handle bar side also damaged. meaning it fell before. you think still safe to purchase ka?

i sked purchase second hand bilke cuz i dont have the experience to see whether the moto is in good condition or not.

This post has been edited by ExCrIpT: Sep 12 2019, 10:32 AM

depen on the sellers honesty...

You can try look at CB250R group in FB, i saw few selling there too.

what your current bike now?

Mine is 110cc kapcai bike.
After all research i found, CB650R is amateur friendly bike
You can straight start to this bike
If go to CB250R after few weeks you might feel bored
*if financial is not your problem

yeah i saw too but as mentioned by the post above, it all depends on the honesty of the seller so.....am abit sked la cuz im told by a friend if the bike has an accident before, the alignment of the front wheel is very hard to adjust to become straight and it will be a problem. Since i have no experience i am quite sked lo. 0 experience in bike

I dont have bike, am getting B full License at the moment, bored of driving car d

am looking at CB250R cuz all reviews mentioned its a beginner friendly bike where as CB650R didnt state that so........

why do you feel that i might feel bored with cb250r? cuz of low max speed?
according to states cb250r 0-100 takes around 8 secs?
and cb650r around 4 secs?

gila fast liao haha

This post has been edited by ExCrIpT: Sep 12 2019, 01:30 PM

Im new rider since last year, previously just ride bicycle. Currently still haven't get my BFull but I'm using Versys650 for daily commute now.
With the feature come with Cb650r, don't think you should worry much. Just make sure u can handle the weight and maintenance

should go for test ride @ bigwing road show.
past event @ 1U, ioi city mall.
future not sure..

Do you mean CBR650R?
Nice specs, must buy.

Forget CB250R, probably last you 9 months and you'll want to change it already.

Go for 650

0-100 in 4 seconds, 10 seconds, or 100 seconds - all depends on your wrist & guts Take it slow & steady. Nothing to be afraid of.

take a look at all bike channel at youtube
all said easy for new rider even with 0 exp

1u dont have cb650r
oni cb250r

oh ye ke.. i din go so dono..

What actually set you back to straight pick up cb650r?

-i am really want to go for mid range bike(naked) for daily commute (Seremban - Damansara - seremban) around 140km++
-before this i am looking at these bikes
a) MT07 - Good looking but it 2 cylinder want to buy this until CB coming out
b) Street Triple - Expensive, good looking, but europe bike so maintaining a bit expensive than jap bike
c) Ducati monster- Expensive, good looking, but europe bike so maintaining a bit expensive than jap bike
d) Suzuki SV - 1 cylinder, quite seldom heard people use this bike, a bit ugly on my POV
e) Kawa Z650 - abit ugly on my POV
f) Kawa z800/900 - ugly, heavy,

and then Prefer CB650f - seems ok, but headlamp ugly

Wait until CB650R come out
now still waiting Benelli 752S - this one stand out among all.. but let see realiability, + not coming to malaysia yet

This post has been edited by myroy: Sep 13 2019, 11:11 AM

1u just next to my office
quite upset they dont have CB650R
I really want to feel how nimble this bike as per said


this model is hotcakes!!
even in Big Wing dont have for show - this one i go last month or 2 month ago

Suzuki SV650? its V-Twin.. legendary engine... but the design is outdated.. this I agree...

Since you already research enough, should be no problem on maintain the bike in terms of financial.
Have your check with Honda where can let you have a try before making decision?
BTW, if i will you, i might looking for touring bike for more comfort riding. Your daily routine is not a short distance.

1) in my POV, touring bike higher seat high(i am only 170cm) e.g. Versys higher 5-7cm compare to CB650R
and bulkier/wider than any bike i mention (cb650r,mt,etc)
2) cant vroom, vroom let off some steam

im using Versys650, just few cm taller than you. cannot flat foot but is maintainable. If you already used to strong wing on high speed and sitting position of naked bike, CB650R wont be wrong decision. I actually like it as well, but only can own one bike at same time......

I'm a newbie so i dont know much about bikes.
I saw the cb250r and i like the design, salesperson and some ppl mentioned that I will get bored of the bike cuz of low cc (which i really dont know what it means by being bored)
the only main difference is the power and the weight of the bike right?
am planning to use the bike long term(leisure) and wont be switching bikes. looking for one to start learning how to ride a bike properly but also scared higher cc bike is too much for me to handle.

cb250r will it struggle to go up genting? hehe

This post has been edited by ExCrIpT: Sep 13 2019, 02:00 PM

I think get bored mainly because of the power output and handling especially if you like to go fast and cornering. (I also bored with mine after 1 year....haha)
You wont get struggle going up Genting with 250r, I saw ppl riding this to Cameron and Genting without issue. Also viewed some review mentioned 250r is handling very well when come to hill route compare to bigger and heavier bike.
If you are really new to bike, might also need to consider things like 1 vs 4 cylinder, cost of maintain in long term, handling and size of both (riding kapzai and sport naked bike in 120km/h is totally different feel.)
At the end, still if you can afford cost of ownership of 650, just go for it. Dangerous or not its depends on your right hand and mindset.

how big is the difference in terms of maintenance for 1 v 4 cylinder bikes?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4737640
You may read from here, normal service oil change should be not much difference, just depends on how many engine oil a 4 cylinder need.
But do check out cost for major service, sprocket , chain those. and tyre...
You also need to consider safety gear, some tools and paddock stand for regular DIY maintenance just in case you feel wanna do it.

Forgot to add in, road tax and insurance yo

This post has been edited by hong3831: Sep 13 2019, 03:00 PM

Just to add 650cc bike usually cost you around rm1300 for the total roadtax and insurance

How about if the rider is small size.. 165cm 60kg..?

It is able ride this bike?

You search on you tube for tiny Jen.
She's smaller size than you. Petite. And riding triumph tiger.

Some of our local lady bikers/motovloggers have also tested the CB650R and CBR650R. They were able to handle it just fine. Search 'MissMMoto' and 'rider helmet pink'.

Haha, tq bro.. just thinking to proceed with cb250r first or straight away cb650r.. im like the sound of this 4 inline.. not fency about riding touring.. just for rider to office which 100km.. 2 ways

Of course.

Small matter.

omg super respect this girl!

Proceed to cb650r

Wow...
super small...
ride touring bike somemore