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post Nov 29 2023, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Nov 29 2023, 06:02 PM)
are you referring to a specific model? the older or the new 2024 model? they are sharing the same engine, no?

but for me enough la 500cc and above and 92 horses. good enough.
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thats what you say currently... later you try 1000cc, then 650cc dont feel enough laugh.gif
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post Nov 29 2023, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Nov 29 2023, 06:19 PM)
thats what you say currently... later you try 1000cc, then 650cc dont feel enough  laugh.gif
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hahaha then think about it later.
am using a 125cc bike now. i think it should be sufficient for me for now.

and will also depend if i have the fire power to get a bigger bike or not also.

just like car also ma.
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post Nov 29 2023, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Nov 28 2023, 10:47 AM)
I like the tall gearing to be frank, but because it's 650cc, it will feel underpowered after a while
I like the bike ever since gen1 with the conventional forks, and followed in til gen2 with the gearing changes

Now I have a Honda... scooter
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Well people buy the CBR650R thinking it's a super sports. It's not.

Small displacement 4s are usually quite gutless midrange. My old FZR400 has nothing under 8k rpm. Ride it like driving a car and you'd wonder where all the 🐎 go. Even the z900 isn't that strong midrange...the powerband is so linear you don't have that kick you expected from 125hp.

Those new 800cc 270 crank twins however....
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post Nov 30 2023, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Nov 29 2023, 09:08 PM)
Well people buy the CBR650R thinking it's a super sports. It's not.

Small displacement 4s are usually quite gutless midrange. My old FZR400 has nothing under 8k rpm. Ride it like driving a car and you'd wonder where all the 🐎 go. Even the z900 isn't that strong midrange...the powerband is so linear you don't have that kick you expected from 125hp.

Those new 800cc 270 crank twins however....
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You're right. It is a sport tourer, not a super sports One of the last of its kind for now. There are newer ones though coming up from other brands but it will take some time to trickle into the market. Bikes like the GSX8R (here already), Triumph Trident based 660 sport bike etc.

But you are also right in saying the midrange is well, I wouldn't say bad, just that it was not tuned to be a super sport and gradual performance is more of what they designed it to be. A friend of mine owned the CB650R and he said the same thing about the midrange...he sold it and bought am MT09.

But I don't mind sport tourers, I actually prefer them over super sports due to their less committed riding position, more day-to-day versatility. It just depends what the riders expect from their bikes.
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post Nov 30 2023, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Nov 29 2023, 06:02 PM)
are you referring to a specific model? the older or the new 2024 model? they are sharing the same engine, no?

but for me enough la 500cc and above and 92 horses. good enough.
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all the same engine, small cc 4cylinder, the 'mildest' configuration compared to single, twin and triple
really need to wring the throttle for power compared to RS660

QUOTE(Patent @ Nov 29 2023, 06:19 PM)
thats what you say currently... later you try 1000cc, then 650cc dont feel enough  laugh.gif
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hahaha, true
big CC is easier to ride slow
been telling ppl I feel more relaxed riding big CC, than trying to go at similar speed on a smaller CC bike

QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Nov 29 2023, 09:08 PM)
Those new 800cc 270 crank twins however....
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open the throttle a bit, and the bike lurches forward giving the neck a whiplash

QUOTE(lowpro @ Nov 30 2023, 09:01 AM)
You're right. It is a sport tourer, not a super sports One of the last of its kind for now. There are newer ones though coming up from other brands but it will take some time to trickle into the market. Bikes like the GSX8R (here already), Triumph Trident based 660 sport bike etc.

But you are also right in saying the midrange is well, I wouldn't say bad, just that it was not tuned to be a super sport and gradual performance is more of what they designed it to be. A friend of mine owned the CB650R and he said the same thing about the midrange...he sold it and bought am MT09.

But I don't mind sport tourers, I actually prefer them over super sports due to their less committed riding position, more day-to-day versatility. It just depends what the riders expect from their bikes.
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I think it's from the old Hornet, or maybe a conceptually detuned CBR600RR engine from Moto2

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post Nov 30 2023, 10:59 AM

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from 600cc 4inline to 650vtwin

so you wish to go bigger cc in the future?
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post Nov 30 2023, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Nov 29 2023, 09:08 PM)
Well people buy the CBR650R thinking it's a super sports. It's not.

Small displacement 4s are usually quite gutless midrange. My old FZR400 has nothing under 8k rpm. Ride it like driving a car and you'd wonder where all the 🐎 go. Even the z900 isn't that strong midrange...the powerband is so linear you don't have that kick you expected from 125hp.

Those new 800cc 270 crank twins however....
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these small-ish (if you call a 600cc bike small) 4 potters are smooth, i think to some, thats their appeal. smooth with just enough power
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Nov 30 2023, 11:13 AM)
these small-ish (if you call a 600cc bike small) 4 potters are smooth, i think to some, thats their appeal. smooth with just enough power
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600cc
4 cylinder - small
3 cylinder - med
2 cylinder - med big
1 cylinder - big
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post Nov 30 2023, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Nov 30 2023, 12:10 PM)
600cc
4 cylinder - small
3 cylinder - med
2 cylinder - med big
1 cylinder - big
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is there 1 cylinder 600cc bike out there?
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Nov 30 2023, 12:21 PM)
is there 1 cylinder 600cc bike out there?
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https://www.rideapart.com/features/408931/6...gine-slideshow/
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post Nov 30 2023, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Nov 30 2023, 10:59 AM)
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from 600cc 4inline to 650vtwin

so you wish to go bigger cc in the future?
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Wah you keep track of my rides biggrin.gif Actually I dunno...I have my eyes on the RE GT650 now that it has alloys (really don't like spokes). But it's not time to make a decision yet. Work is simply taking too much of my personal time at the moment. I actually like the CBR650R but there are many others that are catching my eye as well these days (the China ones) like the CFMoto 500 (4 cylinder) and the 675SR (3 cylinder) and also the QJ moto 600RC. The CFMoto aren't launched yet though. Just concept at the moment.

I intend to cap the pricing to RM40k and below (no super sport or ADV for me tho). Those who know me, will know I prefer fully faired sport tourers but I think due to age, I'm considering the RE as well biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Nov 30 2023, 01:29 PM)
Wah you keep track of my rides  biggrin.gif  Actually I dunno...I have my eyes on the RE GT650 now that it has alloys (really don't like spokes). But it's not time to make a decision yet. Work is simply taking too much of my personal time at the moment. I actually like the CBR650R but there are many others that are catching my eye as well these days (the China ones) like the CFMoto 500 (4 cylinder) and the 675SR (3 cylinder) and also the QJ moto 600RC. The CFMoto aren't launched yet though. Just concept at the moment.

I intend to cap the pricing to RM40k and below (no super sport or ADV for me tho). Those who know me, will know I prefer fully faired sport tourers but I think due to age, I'm considering the RE as well  biggrin.gif
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naked no like? the 800nk macam quite alot of bike for little money
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post Nov 30 2023, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Nov 30 2023, 06:06 PM)
naked no like? the 800nk macam quite alot of bike for little money
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Naked ah? Only the retro types. I had an SV650X, somehow that bike didn't quite gel with me. The looks I mean. My preference has been full faired or if naked, retro only.

Yeah the NK does offer a lot for the price 👍🏼
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Nov 30 2023, 12:29 PM)
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Is this bike still relevant in 2024? Worth to buy new or used?
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post Aug 2 2024, 06:17 AM

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The rest of the world are enjoying E-clutch oredi..

Msia wait la... lol.. now bz selling cb350...


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post Aug 2 2024, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(hustlerism @ Aug 1 2024, 06:14 PM)
Is this bike still relevant in 2024? Worth to buy new or used?
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probably last of its kind, but there are better options depending on what you want
speed and power are definitely not its strong points
holds value quite well, no issues
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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 2 2024, 07:25 AM)
probably last of its kind, but there are better options depending on what you want
speed and power are definitely not its strong points
holds value quite well, no issues
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Such as?
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post Aug 2 2024, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Aug 2 2024, 06:17 AM)
The rest of the world are enjoying E-clutch oredi..

Msia wait la... lol.. now bz selling cb350...


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malaysia, as usual, much longer waiting period.

so the new "old" stock, manufactured in 2024 and imported in 2024 (non e-clutch) version is still being sold.
but honestly, i like the old cb650r looks over the new one, but the larger colour screen and e-clutch should not be compromised, since paying almost the same price level.

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