Lowyat.NET AM2 Clan

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5200+ X2 Windsor F2 | casperito | ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe | Corsair XMS2-800 | stock AMD cooler | 3003MHz

4800+ X2 Brisbane G1 | linkinpark | Abit KN9-SLI | Kingston Value RAM DDR2-800 | Silverstone Nitrogon NT-06 | 3000MHz

4200+ X2 Windsor F2 | bryanyeo87 | Abit KN9 Ultra | Kingston Value RAM DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
4200+ X2 Windsor F2 | Jealousy | DFI Infinity nF UltraII-M2 | Corsair XMS2-675 | stock AMD cooler
4200+ X2 Windsor F2 | kopak | MSI K9N Platinum | Corsair DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler

4000+ X2 Brisbane G1 | cloudwan | ABIT KN9 SLi | Kingston DDR2-667 | Coolermaster Hyper TX | 2800MHz
4000+ X2 Brisbane G1 | beast921 | BIOSTAR TA690G-AM2 | Micron DDR2-800 | CoolerMaster GeminII | 3000MHz
4000+ X2 Brisbane G1 | mcfm | BIOSTAR TF7050-M2 | Patriot DDR2-667 | Xigmatek S963 | 2730MHz

3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | sempronic | Abit KN9 SLi | Corsair XMS2-DDR800 | Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX | 3000MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | tapirus | ABIT KN9 SLi | A-data DDR-667 | stock AMD cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | camedemac | ABIT KN9S | Kingston DDR2-667 | CoolerMaster HyperTX | 2760MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | SilverVR | Asus Crosshair | Corsair XMS2-675 | Stock AMD Cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | h_bib | ASUS M2N-E | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | koie | ASUS M2N-E | Kingston DDR2-667 | Thermaltake Mini Typhoon
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | Rainingzero | Asus M2N-E | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | penapis | BIOSTAR TF590 SLi | Corsair XMS2-800 | CoolerMaster HyperTX | 2600MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | zamree7 | BIOSTAR TF570U | Kingston DDR2-667 | Silverstone NT06 Cooler | 2753MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | awang | BIOSTAR TF550 | Mushkin DDR2-800 | stock AMD cooler | 2608MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | sjn hassan | BIOSTAR TF550 | Micron DDR2-800 | stock AMD cooler | 2500MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | byfc2010 | BIOSTAR TF6100-AM2 | Patriot DDR-667 | Thermaltake Venus 12 | 2504MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | lolhalol | BIOSTAR TF6100-AM2 | Patriot DDR-667 | stock AMD cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | fantasy_kenny | DFI LP UT nF590 SLI M2R | G.Skill DDR2-800 | Cool-Trek Vostok Extreme WC
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | pcmoddingmy | DFI LP UT nF590 SLI-M2R | OCZ SOE Urban Elite PC6400 | Corsair Nautilus500 WC | 2904MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | duarnt | DFI Infinity nF570U-M2/G | Corsair DDR2-677 | Coolermaster Hyper TX
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | mr_habuk | DFI Infinity nF570U-M2/G | Mushkin DDR2-800 | Gigabyte G-Power | 2599MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | ikan_semilang | DFI Infinity nF Ultra II-M2 | ??? | stock AMD cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | pali | DFI Infinity nF Ultra II-M2 | Corsair XMS2-5400 | stock AMD cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | tachlio | DFI Infinity nF Ultra II-M2 | Patriot DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | F@bian_101 | GIGABYTE GA-M55PLUS-S3G | Corsair XMS2-667 C4 | CoolerMaster Hyper TX | 2301MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | rEktOr | GIGABYTE GA-M55SLI-S4 | Aeneon DDR2-533 | stock AMD cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | yu_8200 | GIGABYTE GA-M55SLI-S4 | Mushkin DDR2-533 | stock AMD cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | glare842006 | MSI K9N Neo | Kingston DDR2-533 | stock AMD cooler | 2200MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | k3et | MSI K9N Ultra | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler

3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | CV6149 | ABIT KN9 Ultra | Mushkin DDR2-667 | Arctic Cooling Freezer64 Pro | 2801MHz
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | sniperwolf | ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe | Aeneon DDR2-667 | Thermalright HR-01 | 2479MHz
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | allenultra | BIOSTAR TF550 | Apacer DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2397MHz
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | Cyrus2k | BIOSTAR TF550 | Mushkin DDR2-800 | stock AMD cooler
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | goldfries | BIOSTAR TF550 | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2509MHz
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | lucklyghost | BIOSTAR TF550 | Corsair DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | bluhapp | BIOSTAR TF6100-AM2 | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | Navigator(R) | BIOSTAR TF6100-AM2 | Kingston DDR2-533 | stock AMD cooler
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | mruzian | DFI Infinity UltraII-M2 | Corsair DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | Hayase | GIGABYTE GA-M55SLI-S4 | Corsair DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | g-pitts | MSI K9N Neo | Kingmax DDR2-533 | stock AMD cooler

3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | PowerSlide | ABIT KN9 Ultra | Kingston DDR2-667 | Noctua NH-U12F | 3080Mhz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | cyberloner | Abit KN9 SLi | Kingston DDR2-667 | Thermaltake Sonic Tower | 3003MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | gozila84 | ASUS M2N-E | Mushkin DDR2-667 | Thermaltake Blue Orb II | 2660MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | awh85 | BIOSTAR TA690G | Kingston DDR2-667 | Stock cooler
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | 8tvt | BIOSTAR TA690G | Kingston DDR2-800 | Noctua NH-U12F | 3040MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | afosz | BIOSTAR TA690G-AM2 | Mushkin DDR2-667 | stock HSF | 2811MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | amok | BIOSTAR TA690G-AM2 | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | dreaming | BIOSTAR TA690G-AM2 | GSkill F2-6400GBPK | Coolermaster GeminII | 3001MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | Worm77 | BIOSTAR TA690G-AM2 | Mushkin DDR2-800 | Thermaltake Big Typhoon | 3040MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | Xixo_12 | Biostar TA690G-AM2 | Corsair DDR2-667 | Evercool BUFFALO l 2916MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | dblooi | BIOSTAR TF7050-M2 | Crucial PC2 6400 | Custom Water Cooler | 3201MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | GHz1 | BIOSTAR TF7050-M2 | TEAM Value DDR2-667 | Thermalright SI-120 | 3115MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | Crazyboyrs | BIOSTAR TF570 | Corsair DDR2-667 | CoolerMaster Hyper TX
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | kalakatu | BIOSTAR TF570U | Crucial DDR2-667 | CoolerMaster HyperTX | 3003MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | seram | BIOSTAR TF570U | Patriot PC2-PC5300 | Cooler Master Eclipse
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | treason | BIOSTAR TF570U | Crucial Ballistix PC5300 | Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX | 3003MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | mfa333 | BIOSTAR TF570 SLi | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock cooler | 2853MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | pali303 | BIOSTAR TF570 SLi | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock cooler | 2375MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | arc_archive | BIOSTAR TF560 A2+ | Crucial 10th Ann PC5300 | AMD Stock Cooler | 2700MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | Archerz | BIOSTAR TF560 A2+ | Patriot DDR2 800 | Cooler Master Hyper TX l 3000MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | slash | DFI Infinity nF570-M2/G | Crucial Ballistix PC-6400 | Arctic Freezer Pro 64 l 2944MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | -pWs- | DFI Infinity nF Ultra II-M2 | Corsair Twin2X DDR2-800 | Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX | 3109MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | TerryZeroX | GIGABYTE GA-M55SLI-S4 | Kingston DDR2-667 | Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX | 2717MHz

3500+ Orleans F2 | vey99 | ASUS M2N-E | Mushkin EM2-6400 | Gigabyte G-Power | 2750MHz
3500+ Orleans F2 | ah_fong | BIOSTAR TF550 | Corsair DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2808MHz
3500+ Orleans F2 | Shengz | BIOSTAR TF570U | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3500+ Orleans F2 | zhen^wei | BIOSTAR TF6100-AM2 | Micron DDR2-800 | stock AMD cooler | 2749MHz
3500+ Orleans F2 | F@NT@sy_G@RRic | DFI Infinity UltraII-M2 | TeamXtreem DDR2-667 | Artic Cooling Freezer 64 | 2825MHz
3500+ Orleans F2 | serez | GIGABYTE GA-M55SLI-S4 | Corsair DDR2-667MHz | Thermaltake Blue Orb II | 2728MHz

3200+ Orleans F2 | soulfly | ABIT NF-M2 nView | Crucial DDR2-667 | CoolerMaster Hyper TX | 2900MHz
3200+ Orleans F2 | mzms | BIOSTAR 6100-AM2 | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2629MHz
3200+ Orleans F2 | DarkWonder | BIOSTAR TF4U AM2 | Corsair DDR2-667MHz | AMD Stock Cooler
3200+ Orleans F2 | syarat | BIOSTAR TF550 | Mushkin DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2798MHz
3200+ Orleans F2 | nik0ns | BIOSTAR TF550 | Mushkin DDR2-800 | stock AMD cooler | 2650MHz
3200+ Orleans F2 | allenultra | Biostar TF6100-AM2 | Apacer DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2505MHz

3000+ Orleans F2 | Asus | BIOSTAR TF570U | Crucial DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2610MHz
3000+ Orleans F2 | arc_archive | BIOSTAR TF560 A2+ | Crucial 10th Ann PC5300 | Zalman CNPS9700 LED | 2640MHz
3000+ Orleans F2 | coolblade | BIOSTAR TF550 | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2250MHz
3000+ Orleans F2 | Yongch833 | BIOSTAR TF550 | Corsair DDR2-533 | stock AMD cooler | 2396MHz
3000+ Orleans F2 | Algojo | DFI Infinity nF Ultra II-M2 | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3000+ Orleans F2 | pcmoddingmy | DFI Infinity nF Ultra II-M2 | OCZ PC8000 VX2 DDR2 | Corsair Nautilus500 WC
3000+ Orleans F2 | RyuzakiKagezashi | GIGABYTE GA-M55PLUS-S3G | Kingston DDR2-533 | stock AMD cooler
3000+ Orleans F2 | Matric | MSI K9N Neo | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3000+ Orleans F2 | andyjyneo | MSI K9NU Neo | Corsair DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler

3000+ Manila F2 | Cyclone87 | BIOSTAR TF550 | Samsung DDR2-533 | stock cooler
3000+ Manila F2 | Seventh | BIOSTAR TF6100-AM2 | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock cooler
2800+ Manila F2 | beetle_larvae | GIGABYTE GA-M51GM-S2G | Kingston DDR2-533 | stock AMD cooler


Show your SuperPi 32M with CPU-Z overclocked screenshot

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Added on June 5, 2007, 5:05 pmMainboard statistics:


Other related/useful threads:
LYN DDR2 discussions : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=298646


AM2 CPU/DDR2 divider table:



This post has been edited by soulfly: Sep 22 2007, 11:02 AM

Wow, new thread for am2 discussion

Any way to measure the clockspeed of pci and pci-e frequency? Is clockgen reading the correct reading?

I quite worry of my hdd data because my board do not have the pci locked setting?


-pWs-

same here...lavalys dont display the frequency as well...pc wizard also dont... =(
does it affect IDE HDD anot?

soulfly can u update my cpu speed ?


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Hey Soulfly bro can update my speed too? not a big oc though



This post has been edited by TerryZeroX: Jun 5 2007, 09:58 PM

Only way to check PCI/PCI-E I know is clockgen and ntune (they should be accurate). Backup your data just in case. I'm doing that at the moment, which is why I have not done any serious overclocking for the time being.

I don't know any way to check the sata clock. Even hooking up a osciloscope would be useless because there is no stationary waveform on the SATA data lines. I'm not sure how to check if there is a dedicated crystal oscilator or IC to generate the sata clock, or if its based on an existing clock. Some boards have confirmed that the sata clock is based on the PCI-E clock, but not sure if this holds true for all boards.

IDE is probably affected as well. In any case, if the chipset is overclocked beyond what it can handle, data errors will still occur.

ouhz ok, thanks bro, i check with clockgen and it says pci is at 33mhz...

but i thought kn9 ultra and the mcp55(570 nforce) chipsets are good =/

any mcp55(nforece570U,SLI,S) users to give ffedback whterh they had similar probs as i have? x_x

wahhhh.....already V2 ar??????
nice....nice.....

pws...worry about the data??
ur mobo does not have frequency controller for PCIe??

Got PCIe option, but the mobo dun hav pci frequency (33Mhz)
Of coz worry ar.. a lot of precious data


-pWs-

sent my motherboard to RMA ady.
now using my dad's pc to do the surfing and other jobs..

i wonder,is it worth to upgrade to brisbane? and is there still a forummer who are looking for x2 3800?

if u really2 into OCing... it's worth it to get a brisbane... juz got my new brisbane rig and its awesome.... can go to 3.0-3.2 like nothing... but the new now onli used for torrenting.. nothing more...

What ur vcore at 3.2GHz?? Mind to tell??
What multiplier and ram divider u use??


-pWs-

AMD Penang js receive Dual Core 65nm from germany, so it worth to get brisbana.

And now i doing some testing about Quad core somemore 8core~ mayb it will lauch soon too~

~

play˛ 3ghz...




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Everest Ultimate have sata reading:
Give it try...

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Added on June 8, 2007, 12:02 amAthlon 64 overclocking guide:
Link to Guide 1
Link to Guide 2


This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Jun 8 2007, 12:02 AM

Bro soulfly,
update mine tq

3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | 8tvt | BIOSTAR TA690G-AM2 | Kingston DDR2-800 | Noctua NH-U12F | 3040Mhz

will try more and tight the ram timing later...




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i pushed the vcore to the max... the multiplier i use 9... 358*9
ram divider i use 667 if i'm not mistaken... lazy to look at the bios... i adjust my corsair ram timing to 5-5-0-18...
wanna try using crucial ballistix tracer pulak... but lazy la olreadi... brisbane is so easy to get 3.0... wonder how brisbane perform on M2N32 SLi...

this setting i copied out from the overclocking database webpage...

u try it out also la... ehehehehe...
u alreadi got to 3.1... juz push a lil bit the HTT maybe can get to 3.2...

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Added on June 8, 2007, 1:23 pmerr.. if i'm not mistaken, phenom will launch single core, x2 and x4 onli... got octo-core somemore eehh??

This post has been edited by casperito: Jun 8 2007, 01:23 PM

I see. But my vcore a bit too high already. Scare already


-pWs-

u tried to push up ur HTT without pushing up the vcore??
wat cooler are u using??

I got add vcore. 1.45v @ 3.0GHz
I think too high for a brisbane. That is why i do not oc somemore

I using Noctua NH-U12F right now


-pWs-

This post has been edited by -pWs-: Jun 8 2007, 08:19 PM

My 1st Brisby result:




3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | mfa333 | BIOSTAR Tforce 570 SLi | Kingston DDR2-667 | AMD stock cooler | 2853Mhz

I think thats all for now. Waiting for my paycheck to buy better cooler before proceeding to 3ghz...

it's seems like brisbane's memory controller got some sort of problem..
i can't elobarate more coz not into technical thingy..

as i knew my ram capable to hike till 1000mhz and even more..
i've paired with 2.5ghz (<1.3v) 266fsb, with 1.95 vdimm (lowest for my mobo)
the setting works fine...

my brisbane can run on 3ghz with just <1.4v..
part of that i paired the ram with 667 divider to make it run on 1000Mhz..
the problem is... need to pump vCpu above 1.55.. lol my temp reach 80C barier..
the temp also seems not report accurately..
i did memtest on 3ghz, the ram setting (voltage, timing, etc) works great..
i not touch the mobo..it's work great in different setting..

3ghz attempt with 1000Mhz ram.. not work well.. my brisbane hate high voltage... the prime not last more than 10 minutes..


so i set 1.39vCpu for 3ghz (316fsb).. with 533 divider, 2.1vdimm (tight the timing).. gave me like attached result..

the moral :
no use to set 1000Mhz with loose timing which give transfer rate ~6400 MB/s (unmatched setup with cpu)
if ~800Mhz with tight timing can push 7000 MB/s...



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is brisbane available at lyp or must buy through bulk? whats the id on the box? AXD something2....

ADO3600DDBOX...
for 3600+ easy to notice coz their former brother have less cache..
spot for 640KB + 640KB cache..

u can find at lowyat if u lucky.. make sure as i mentioned above...

i got mine at lowyat. make sure the model number is DD not CU like 8tvt mentioned. and 640KB+640KB cache written on the box.

in which part did 8tvt type CU ?

ADO3600DDBOX

ADO for 65wattage, if u find
512 L2 cache and 128 L1 = 640...
becoz of dual core 640+640..

if other than that it's should old 65w with 256 L2 cache... and not brisbane..

usually when u guys OC, do u pump chipset and HTT voltage as well?

i dun think that is necessary
reason - i dunno..
becoz normally i inly played with vcore and vdimm

this morning i tried to go over 300 but failed. with mem divider set to 400/533, BSOD while loading XP. If on mem divider 667/800, pc wont boot(ram prob). What else should i tweak? vcore already 1.45v..

try to pump more vcore..
and since u still using stock cooler, better keep it under 1.5v..
and set the divider to the lowest (533 or 400) and loose the timing (CL5 perhaps?)

more vcore?

divider already lowest(400) but still same. timing 5-5-5-15-20-2t also no go...

yes, more vcore..my windsor already pumped up to 1.6v
but like i said earlier, better keep it under 1.5v since u r still using a stock cooler..

and if all the methods above arent working, i think the board hit the wall already..

my 4800+ 3.0ghz(240x12.5) with vcore 1.45 also temp reach 67'c. But i'm using default ram timing 5-5-5-18 and default divider DDR800 . Prime few hours still no error but very very hot

This post has been edited by linkinpark: Jun 9 2007, 12:51 PM

eh? so high for only 1.45v..what cooler do u use anyway ?

This post has been edited by kalakatu: Jun 9 2007, 12:52 PM

Silverstone NT06.

afaik, robycom and cycom have them.
Bought 2 units @ cycom days ago with RM240

As long as you see "DD" at the end of the stepping, that's 3600+ brisbane core

wow~

This post has been edited by Complete: Jun 9 2007, 01:46 PM

ya but i don know how they call coz i js industrial trainee inside~

it is 2 Quad Core inside my supervisor tell me d~

somemore everyday i wil take the die to inspect ~ ~

For Brisbane 3600, it is consider high voltage at vcore 1.45. Normally with 1.4vcore, u can oc around 2.9GHz already

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Added on June 9, 2007, 2:56 pmTry to use other multiplier


-pWs-

This post has been edited by -pWs-: Jun 9 2007, 02:56 PM

smuggle out for us!

ahh, i forgot i still haven't play with multiplier... thanks for reminding me...

btw, HT link around 1000-1100 still acceptable right?

This post has been edited by mfa333: Jun 9 2007, 03:45 PM

Yup...800-1100Mhz Sweet spot...


-pWs-

I keep my HT below 1000.
Setting HT multiplier @ 4x wont effect performance much.

of course not 4x... even on 3x if the HT is >340, its already over 1000...

might be a little of topic but..
i would like to ask ...the batch CAALG on brisbane 3600+ is when ar?

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Added on June 10, 2007, 8:10 pmADO3600DDBOX is the brisbane...

afaik, the other 3600+ it is not the old 65w it is the 89w windsor with 256kb L2 cache

correct me if im wrong though

This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Jun 11 2007, 05:33 PM

3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | pali303 | BIOSTAR TForce 570 SLi | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock cooler | 2375MHz

Biostar's Automate OC V12 Engine. Manual OC later..



This post has been edited by pali303: Jun 11 2007, 01:30 AM

i dun really bother to use the auto oc engine, i dun feel like when it randomly change my timing and divide..

and 2.4GHz is quite low on brisbane..u will feel the excitement when u use manual oc and pump it to 3.0GHz

This post has been edited by kalakatu: Jun 11 2007, 02:09 AM

This is what AMD has confirmed.

Phenom FX (Agena FX)
-socket 1207 (meant for dual processor systems, meaning 8 cores on the system)
There will also be 1 model using AM2
-quad core
-with 512x4 L2 & 2MB L3 cache
-using Hypertransport v3.0
-will ship with stock frequencies up to 2.9GHz

Phenom X4 (Agena)
-socket AM2/AM2+
-quad core
-with 512x4 L2 & 2MB L3 cache
-using Hypertransport v3.0
-will ship with stock frequencies slightly slower than Agena FX

Phenom X2 (Kuma)
-socket AM2/AM2+
-dual core
-with 512x2 L2 & 2MB L3 cache
-will ship with stock frequencies up to 2.9GHz

There will also be dual core Athlon X2 (same as Kuma, but without L3 cache), and Semprons. AM2+ is supposed to be backwards compatible with AM2 (though how exactly is not mentioned), difference is that AM2+ will use hypertransport 3 while AM2 uses Hypertransport 2. Franky, I don't think there will be much performance from the difference in hypertransport speed, its the porcessor thats wicked fast.

Seriously, I can't wait. At demos of the Barcelona server chip, it pawned the Intel quad core Xeon by 30-50% And I don't think its faked, because according to the processor specifications, the pipeline can simultaneously process at least 1 more instruction than C2D based processors. There was also a demo of the Agena FX chip in dual processor configuration, god that was damned fast.

Procesor specifications (this is pretty long and boring to read)
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-k8l.html

Demo of Agena FX
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/31977/135/

Intel's response to AMD's new processor demos
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20070606PD219.html

This post has been edited by lohwenli: Jun 11 2007, 05:14 PM

more information on AMD K10

AMD K10

Some of that information isn't confirmed yet, but the most of the links on that wikipedia article are at least based on accurate sources.

Another article on the Barcelona/Agena architecture's specs with comparision with C2D
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2939

This post has been edited by lohwenli: Jun 11 2007, 05:24 PM

*drooling* at the Phenom X4 (Agena)....anyway *stops drooling* my cousin is working with amd singapore, apparently he has a ES for agena x4, and best part of all, he might be bringing it down this weekend!!!! (yes it works with am2) hope can do some benches this weekend

This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Jun 11 2007, 05:39 PM

just did some survey at lyp, and i spotted X2 3600 at most shops, but sadly they didnt even bother to update it into their pricelist , need to ask them to bring out the box so that u can spot it clearly (about the cache thingy, DD part)

anyway found out most of it retailed at RM240, and some shops even demand for >RM250, because the cheaper price can only be given if wanna buy bundle with motherboard..

luckily i found 1 shop (quite infamous in my favorite shoplist) and found out they sell it for RM235..perhaps can be bargain again, but didnt try..

after my mobo back from RMA, i think ill be joining the brisbane clan..

Biostar already have AM2+ motherboard... hehehe

Penang here all not lable what type of proc, only singapore print on Lid.

even i know it is Phenom, but i also don know what type is it`

hope can have a look pls~

later i go check at my fab~

something bothers me about Everest and cpuz reading...

cpu-z:
FSB:DRAM = CPU/7
DRAM = 407

Everest:
FSB:DRAM = CPU/8
DRAM = 357


which 1 is correct? I'm using DDR-533 divider on BIOS.

This post has been edited by mfa333: Jun 11 2007, 08:51 PM

since DDR800 is CPU/5 and DDR667 is CPU/6, so i believe DDR533 must be CPU/7

Refer to the table on the 1st post. That's your answer-ram divider is selected by the CPU based on the CPU multiplier and DDR2 setting in CMOS.

i believe mfa333 tried...

300fsb x 9.5cpuMul = 2850

9.5 normally refer to 9cpuMul.. so 533divider should 7
me also face the same prob... but... the high transfer rate reading won't bother me much..
it's should 7 not 8...

other thing still i can't solve while doing 316fsb ~3ghz, which i ran it now..
cannot using 667divider... i manage to use below 270fsb only when using 667divider..

3000 / 6 = 500..

my ram can even run 520 if using 800 divider...

there's no 9.5 multiplier table there.

having problem with low divider on high fsb? iinm, i read somewhere that you need to tweak the trfc if having problem with low divider on high fsb on Biostar mobo. not very sure though...

Guys, I am quite new at OC and AM2 but I have done enough reading. My upcoming rig is sth like

AM2 3600 Brisbane
Asus M2N-E
Kingmax 1gb X 2 800mhz
Asus Nvidia 8600GT

Why most of you didnt increase CPU multiplier to 10? And how come most of you guys not using 800mhz memory since it's cheap?

Kindly advise. Thanks.

most of the time i tweak basic timing.. sub option i'll leave it auto..can save much time..
since tighter timing make more transfer rates.. so it won't interest me much to try higher with loose timing..

brisbane 3600+ cpuMul is 9.5.. we cannot increase it, only can change downward..
800Mhz ram won't cheap.. it's RM100 more than 667 DDR2 for 1gb..
if 2 for dual channel will cost RM200 more..

i know kingmax is cheaper... only recently.. but other brand price not drop yet..

Go for others board because Asus M2N-E got limited vdimm if not mistaken

Should be Year 07 Week 09


-pWs-

This post has been edited by -pWs-: Jun 12 2007, 01:35 PM

max 1.95v to be precise...

see frontpage for OCable mobo refference...

nice..ok thanks...been selling a few of this ade..didnt know how they high they would oc lol...which batch is the best for ocing?

This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Jun 12 2007, 03:03 PM

Brisbane up to 3GHz, do I need to change the voltage? At stock volt, how high Brisbane can go, in range? Board, thinking of Biostar TA690G

Biostar has released AM2+ board, but HT up to 2GHz only while Phenom HT 3GHz

Don use Asus M2N-E if can i think vdimm problem still not solve max 1.95v althought it look cool

limited for OC

And DDR2 800 not cheap ler~ better get DDr2 667 and oc it. some of it can do till DDr 1000
if i not mistaken it is crusial~ and got bulks there quite cheap~ use Micron D9 more~

Didn't notice until you mentioned. But anyway, here's the formula to calculate

Ram speed = multiplier * 200 / lowest number that does not overclock ram * 2

The memory controller will only accept the following speeds DDR400, DDR533, DDR667 and DDR800. The lowest divider (meaning highest ram speed) is 5.

Therefore if you set DDR800,
9.5 * 200 / 5 * 2= DDR760 -ram can't be set any higher because no higher divider than 5. Ram is not overclocked, so this will be used

For DDR667
9.5 * 200 / 5 * 2= DDR760 -CPU thinks ram is overclocked, so it will used a lower multiplier
9.5 * 200 / 6 * 2= DDR633 -CPU thinks ram is not overclocked, so this will be used

For DDR533
9.5 * 200 / 7 * 2= DDR543 -CPU thinks ram is overclocked, so it will used a lower multiplier
9.5 * 200 / 8 * 2= DDR475 -CPU thinks ram is not overclocked, so this will be used

The memory controller will choose the divider based the ram speed setting and CPU multiplier with the aim of having a ram speed as close as possible to the ram speed setting while not overclocking the ram while assuming base clock is 200. The base clock does not affect the choice of ram divider, which is why overclocking ram is possible even for DDR800 which does not have a higher speed setting to use.

This post has been edited by lohwenli: Jun 12 2007, 07:19 PM

iinm, trfc is not timing, more to drive strength. Some Tforce 550 user on other forum verified that with loosen the trfc, you can set low divider(400/533) on high HTT. increasing the cpu speed while limiting ram speed(so that u can tighten the timing).

i might be wrong..



that means, my actual divider on DDR533 setting is /8 ?

What I'll really like to know is how high it will overclock (don't we all want to know?). If it can reach at least 3.6GHz it should be enough to keep neck to neck when intel's Penryn comes out. Pretty much guaranteed Penryn will be able to clock 4Ghz or higher. With a probably IPC advantage of at least 20% (about 30-50% advantage vs current C2D) a 3.6GHz Agena might be able to hold up against a 4GHz Penryn.

AMD needs to revamp their transistor tech fast and get their production line running faster. Intel has learnt its lesson after Pentium got burned by Athlon64 for nearly half a decade; and they seem to be taking it quite personally. It would be very sad if AMD got knocked out, then there would be no competition in the market to push prices down and technology developments up.

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Added on June 12, 2007, 9:53 pmMost likely, because on /7 it will be faster than 533 while on 200HTT, and the processor won't allow that.

This post has been edited by lohwenli: Jun 12 2007, 09:53 PM

that means cpuz reading is wrong?

Possible..

hey its crucial ok u sounds like cursing my sexy rams haha jk
yeah u should get crucial rams
im using the 800mhz and my 3600+ 90nm junk can go till 2.5ghz with just a capalang gigabyte mobo..
go grab those sexy rams from shawty's threads

hah, looks like brisbane 3600 is being very common nowadays, even newbie manage to found it.

seen all those 3ghz clockers, keeps me drooling..i really feels the need to feel the sensation.. sigh.

ya, go grab one syarat.

worth the upgrade IMO

capriodimitri, why u insist to run at full bus speed? just wonder.

Gigabyte never good in Am2 OC, Intel yes.
For AM2, the brand u should target are biostar/DFI/Abit.

but becareful not to grab the 65w windsor version...
always check for Ordering P/N number is ADO3600xxxDD (tray) and ADO3600DDBOX (PIB) before pay..

save ur hassle just get biostar TA690G.. should around 3++..
if cannot get in ur place just buy it here n courier..

yes u can drop the cpuMul...

M2N-E is a stable mobo... only the limited vdimm make it not a choice for OCer

brisbane 3600+ not only DD but some DL..

i second that..

at stock voltage, i can do 250Mhz * 9.5 = 2.375ghz... my mobo is tforce 6100 with latest bios...nvr tried higher voltage coz scared will burn...my old athlon xp alrdy burned as i up the voltage...

now i enable CnQ, only can boot at 230Mhz * 9.5 = 2.185ghz... any1 got tips for higher speed with CnQ?

@ all

i want to overclock my pc... and im still an amateur(juz ovrclck using to implemented software). will u guys teach me how? and what should i do to my standard pc to overclock it?

man, i got athlon x2 3800+ @ run at it should be(standard) / asus m2n-e / 2xCorsair 667 ddr2 512mb / enlight 350wt / xpertvision/palit 7900gs / seagate 160gb;maxtor 80gb.