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 AMDŽ Socket-AM2 Overclocking thread (V2), discuss our setup/overclocking issues

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post Jun 24 2007, 04:49 AM

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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Jun 23 2007, 02:19 PM)
kalakatu do u prime2004/ orthos tortute test?
i just got brisbane here in penang after long waiting ...
got 50 brisbane in office =)
grab 25 and test... almost all cpu can get to 240 x 9.5 with original vcore and it won't boot anymore for more htt...
by increasing vcore... almost all can boot well at 3ghz... 316x 9.5 maybe...
the problem is the vcore needed to gain stable ... at 3ghz..
tried tried tried... found out they need at least 1.5 vcore to gain stable ... and she's hot at that core...
conclusion... 1st batch brisbane should be happy with their cpu because second batch cpu sure drop price and quality...
never have chance to get 1st batch cpu ... lucky kl ppl =)
anyway i'm still torture it....
i dun like to clock and prime fail because cpu is not 100% reliable to do calculation
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Mind to share contry of origin of your brisby? Just curious will it affect the overclockability?

My brisby 3600+ pair with TA690G and Team VR 667 1GBx2.
Passed DOS memtest 1.6 at 316x9.5~3GHz, DDR2~1.1GHz, but refuse to boot in WinXP.

So far able to prime stable in orthes(5hrs+) and Super PI 32M in hot day, at 300x9.9~2.85GHz, DDR~815MHz@4-4-4-12 timing.

Temp damp good using Gemin II pair with 2x120mm fans. Getting around 45C in hot day@Vcore 1.475V. thumbup.gif

Trying hard to get 3GHz barrier rclxub.gif doh.gif

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post Jun 24 2007, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Jun 24 2007, 08:45 AM)
i pumped the vcore to 1.45v.will run stress test later and play with the ram.thanks anyway
where did u get the Multiplier 9.9??max Brisby 3600+ is 9.5 not 10  hmm.gif
yeah..sometimes older bios can oc better than newer
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"where did u get the Multiplier 9.9??max Brisby 3600+ is 9.5 not 10 "

did i mentioned multiplier x10??? unsure.gif
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post Jun 25 2007, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Jun 24 2007, 07:03 PM)
your ldt multiplier is too high... drop to 3X maybe...  HT link should be 1000 or below... so motherboard chipset won't hurt...
i forgot it is made from where... but it is not made in malaysia...
germany or china like that....
i believe your problem is htt link there...
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your ldt multiplier is too high... drop to 3X maybe...

Where to change this setting?

HTT link too low will affect the system performance?

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post Jun 27 2007, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(Vtec(Rock) @ Jun 26 2007, 05:14 PM)
ok guy.let see my bribane.....
hehehe.100% prime stable!!!!!

AMD athlon 3600+ Bribane(cool by Noctua NU-U12F)
T690G by Biostar
Acbel 500W Iplus
160Gb sata2 Hitachi
Geforce 7300GT
Cruzial Ballistic Trazer 1GBx2 667Mhz 3-3-3-12 Oc DDR1010Mhz 5-4-4-10
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WOW! good results.....have u ever try what is the max o/c status using onboard ATI1250 graphic? I believed yr external graphics card help a lot smile.gif thumbup.gif

How many RPM (original 120 silent fan?) of your CPU cooler?
What is the CPU Vcore/ DDR Voltage and running Temp?

Mine to share what is your BIOS version and other O/C setting? HTT V and NB/SB V etc?

This is your "hand picked" system from many mobo/Proc/DDR right? hmm.gif

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post Jun 28 2007, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Jun 27 2007, 10:33 PM)
Yup, its better to get a ram cooler than use heat spreaders. And allngap's are some of the best, even better than those branded ones.

A test by corsair showing the ineffectiveness of heat speaders. Gimme a break man..WTF only 3 MHz improvement in overclock??!!  rclxub.gif
http://www.corsairmemory.com/_appnotes/AN6...Lab_Results.pdf




The reoson I put on Heat Spreader is not to gain higher OC speed.
It is for fun aka hobby! The module will look more solid and running in much lower temperature.

The advantages by installing the heat spreader is the much lower DDR running temperature hense will prolong the DDR lifespan.

I installed Copper Heat Spreader on my Team DDR2 modules, my DDR2 module temperature kept below 35C even running at 2.3V at 300Mhz@DDR~960MHz!
I am not using RAM coller fan but the fan on top of my GeminII will blows directly to DDR modules as well. thumbup.gif

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post Jun 30 2007, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Jun 28 2007, 01:23 PM)
The point is that is it won't be much cooler, in fact its often slightly hotter because it blocks the chips from direct airflow. The only ramsink I know that does reduce ram temp is thermalright's HR-07.

But yeah, it adds bling..  icon_rolleyes.gif  And it protects the chips from physical damage.  flex.gif
Btw, how did you measure your ram temp?
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If the thermal interface material in between the RAM chipsets and heat spreader is efficient then it will help to transfer heat out off the chipsets.

If the TIM is of low grade type (especially those low grade thermal tape) then I agree with you that it might not transfer heat out from chipset efficiently, hence might bring up temp instead b'cos the heat spreaders itself will limit the air flows, this will be more obvious if cooler is not use for cooling the spreaders.

To me, thermal transfer efficiency of thermal tape is far below than thermal paste/grease.

I can't measure the actual RAM chipset surface temp because they've been covered up by the spreaders. My fan coolers will bring down the spreaders surface temp to ~33C. Give an allowance of 3C to 5C for the chipsets temp higher than the spreaders my DDR2 still running much lower temp compare to the bare DDR module without proper cooling. My DDR2 running well at 2.25V, the spreaders surface temp, as I mentioned just barely warm!

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post Jul 15 2007, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(awh85 @ Jul 15 2007, 12:45 AM)
hi guys,

after updating my bios to 605 from 402, i cant startup my pc edi. i dont think the mobo burned coz there is no burnt smell and no loud sound coming from the psu.

here is what happened and i hope u guys can help me out since we have quite a number of ppl here using same mobo (and cpu as me)

yesterday i just reformatted my pc coz after installing bitdefender, it gave a lot of problems to my system and other software on it. reformatting and install windows and all my programs had no problems. but after updating the bios from the biostar website, to the 605 bios using the biostar bios update utility, it said i needed to restart, after the restart, my pc wouldnt even go into bios or anything, there was no cpu information displaying, nothing at all, just a black screen like my pc is not linked to my monitor.

i rebooted again and there is no beep sound and no other diagnostic beeps like long beep as well. the cpu fan is turning as well as the casing fan, just that it will not start up.

do u have any idea how to fix my problem? the mobo has 2 buttons one which reset and one which on/off the pc, but both also dont fix the problem. i took out the battery from the mobo and put back in also same. no response, the pc not booting up.

i cant even enter bios to restore the previous bios. hope u can help me out. thanks.
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Are you sure you flash the correct BIOS?

There are 2 LEDs near the power/reset buttons, any of them lights up or blinks?
If no lights/blinks I believed you flash the wrong BIOS or the BIOS flashing process not sucessful.

Try to send the link here where you download the BIOS file.
I tried b4, accidentally flash the wrong BIOS (under the stupid Windows version flash utility but it never warn me about the incompatible BIOS source file!) It just flash and after restart same thing like you happened!

Try to feel the small heatsink near the CMOS battery, it feel slightly warm right (after power up)?

Trying to help but you please give some feedbacks.

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post Jul 31 2007, 10:04 AM

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Hi all ppl,

Kindly advise which mobo chipset most stable in term of overclockability and performance for AM2/Brisbane platform?
NF4 Ultra, NF590 or AMD 690/G?

The Nforce 590 should be the latest generation for AM2 right?

Pls give your comments.

Thanks.

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post Jul 31 2007, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jul 31 2007, 10:33 AM)
Any NForce 550/570/590 or AMD 690. Most imp is the mobo manufacturer, something like Biostar Tforce/ ABIT/ Asus
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I mean in term of "overclockability and performance" over the 3 chipsets, even from the same manufacturer different mobo chipsets should perform different performance!
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post Aug 9 2007, 11:30 PM

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hi ppl smile.gif

Finally able to bring my brisbane 3600+ to 3GHz with SuperPI and 10 loops of 3DMark06 stable sweat.gif

My system specs:

DFI Infinity NF UltraII-M2 mobo
AM2 Brisbane 3600+
Dual Channel mode Crucial Value DDR2 667 2x512MB (micron D9 chipset)
Gigabyte 7600GS Silent
CPU Cooler= CM GeminII + 2 mixed brand 120mm fans
Chipset cooler = Thermalright HR-05-SLI + 80mm fan
2x Raptor 37GB 10krpm in RAID mode
Acbel 500W LCD PSU

Casing??? ===> naked, my rig just sit on top of a box for the Abit Fatal1ty AN9 32X doh.gif


Mod, can help me update my rig in the database?


got another rig for 3GHz mission (abit Fatal1ty AN9 32X, brisby 3600+, 2x1GB Team Value DDR2667)
....sadly quite busy this 2 weeks....will update result later!

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QUOTE(likito @ Aug 11 2007, 01:40 AM)
hi , i just received my cooler today . so i quick oc my oc . but i having a prob ..

sometime i just test the pi , then the computer auto turn off ( non auto restart ) any idea ?

open pi , speedfan , ai booster , clockGen ,cpu-z only..
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pls give more detail like vcore, vdimm, multiplier etc.

If vcore too low may cause this as well.
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post Sep 25 2007, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Sep 24 2007, 11:32 PM)


IMO, its wayyy better than CM Extreme Power 450w, ive used the CM 450w before(the model with a voltage meter), it flunctuates alot when on full load where else my cheapo raptox works way better.

That is CM Real Power bro. I am using it in one of my OC rigs.
Seem OK to me, full load Brisbane 3600+@2.8GHz voltage still OK.
Even running 1x7200HDD and 2xraptors@10k rpm.

Just slightly drop on 3.3V rail.
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post Sep 25 2007, 02:52 AM

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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Sep 25 2007, 02:35 AM)
weird, in my case it drops in 3.3V AND 12V ... sweat.gif
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not every PSU performs the same even same brand and model.
My CM 450W Real power 3.3V only measure 3.23 to 3.24V when idle.
Full load will drop slightly about 0.01 to 0.02V.

So far so good.
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post Sep 25 2007, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Sep 25 2007, 03:02 AM)
actually, whats the safe level of dropping Voltages? i mean.. how far for it to drop before it can be considered "dangerous"? up to this day, ill think it would be fine as long as all rails are above the rated level. Always try to keep them at or above rated v.
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+- within 5% should be acceptable.
+- 3% should be considered damp nice smile.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sempronic @ Sep 25 2007, 03:09 AM)
do i look down to 10th Ann?? doh.gif

do i look down to other RAM?? doh.gif

i said the OC is better using Crucial..... whistling.gif
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hahaha bro....you are damp good tongue.gif
To me any RAM can clock kaw kaw is good RAM....brand doesn't matter smile.gif
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post Sep 25 2007, 03:23 AM

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QUOTE(sempronic @ Sep 25 2007, 03:21 AM)
not brand bro...

but Crucial use good RAM chips....
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agreed bro...I got 2 pcs myself, as collection tongue.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(sempronic @ Sep 25 2007, 03:26 AM)
then it is a waste of it if it use D9XX Micron Chip but u just make it as a collection item...
good for u... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Will use it if it is 1GBx2 but sadly just 512MBx2 so use it for OC testing purpose lor !
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 25 2007, 10:51 AM)
512 x 2 oso can oc wut.. rugi la..
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QUOTE(byfc2010 @ Sep 25 2007, 11:04 AM)
yea lar...XD
keep as collection oso dun wan use...
really rugi lo...
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already got 1GB x2 in my system.
This 512MBx2 only on and off put in my system and OC kaw-kaw....hantam till 2.3V and it still alive doh.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Sep 25 2007, 02:00 PM)
the courier fee is 190RMB for 1st 500g , coming every 500g top up 45RMB
the price for tray version proc not sure yet, roughly around 500RMB
i dunno the weight of each tray version proc, so i cannot count the estimated courier fee yet.
i've already order 10 units , they said they will try their best to make it notworthy.gif
edited: i've asked them to test and select those proc that able to hit 3G with 1.25v~1.35v icon_rolleyes.gif
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If really those proc able to hit 3G with 1.25v~1.35v I aslo want to take 1 unit tongue.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Oct 6 2007, 04:53 PM)
sempronic , xixo_12 and Aoinatsume, i already counted u guys  in the interest list. icon_rolleyes.gif
btw, i think i better come out with a written list ...currently the list full adi if not mistaken
you can get one from me brows.gif
but i think all oredi booked sad.gif
need to count 1st.
little updates... still couldn't bank in . they are having 1 week national day holiday and the bank reopen on 8th oct  sad.gif
Maybe will get it on friday or saturday
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bro,

do you put my id in the list???

Suggestion: why not you list down all the ids that shown interest to avoid future dispute smile.gif

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