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post May 19 2007, 02:04 PM, updated 19y ago

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3:00 - FMV sequence in a spaceship - looks Terran - zooming in on a metal door - door opening - reveals a guy with a cigar in chains - prisoner - door shuts behind him - there's so much bass the room is shaking - guy steps into some kind of metallic devicce - legs are strapped in - guy rising toward ceiling - Korean text on screen got people very excited - another part of the machine is dropping metal arms on him - machine whirring - applying armor to his torso - extremly detailed visuals here - now guy is strapping on gloves - armor is molding together - seems like a Terran marine - rockets turn on - zerg now onscreen - Marine delivers a line - StarCraft 2 officially announced.


Official Homepage:-

www.starcraft2.com

Pictures:-

http://gall.dcinside.com/list.php?id=game1&no=127676&page=1
http://up.kupatrix.com/members/browse/1/Starcraft%20II
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/850/850126/imgs_1.html

Videos:-

trailer if you dont want to download from blizzard:- http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S01YOVX5 69.4 meg.

GameDevs explaining the New Units in SC2:
StarCraft II - Gameplay Explanation Video - Part 1 of 3 ->

StarCraft II - Gameplay Explanation Video - Part 2 of 3 ->

StarCraft II - Gameplay Explanation Video - Part 3 of 3 ->


Actual Game Footages of StarCraft II
StarCraft II - Gameplay Video - Part 1 of 4 (actual game footage) ->

StarCraft II - Gameplay Video - Part 4 of 4 (actual game footage) ->


Starcraft 2 - Cinematic Trailer - QT
Starcraft 2 - Cinematic Trailer - WMV
Starcraft II - Epic Battle Gameplay - QT
Starcraft II - Epic Battle Gameplay - WMV
Starcraft II - Protoss Mothership - QT
Starcraft II - Protoss Mothership - WMV
Starcraft II - Terran Battle Cruiser Gameplay - QT
Starcraft II - Terran Battle Cruiser Gameplay - WMV
Starcraft II - Immortal Gameplay - QT
Starcraft II - Immortal Gameplay - WMV
Starcraft II - Zerg Gameplay - QT
Starcraft II - Zerg Gameplay - WMV
Starcraft II - Artwork Trailer - QT
Starcraft II - Artwork Trailer - WMV
Starcraft II - Phoenix Gameplay - QT
Starcraft II - Phoenix Gameplay - WMV
Starcraft II - Terran Reapers Gameplay - QT
Starcraft II - Terran Reapers Gameplay - WMV
Starcraft II - Immortal VS The Siege Tank Gameplay - QT
Starcraft II - Immortal VS The Siege Tank Gameplay - WMV
Starcraft II - Zealot Gameplay - QT
Starcraft II - Zealot Gameplay - WMV

I know some of you are complaining about graphics and how its bad, not up to par with the game nowadays, so i present to you, alpha starcraft.

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http://sclegacy.com/features/evolution.php

So prepare for drastic changes. And im sure they'll change the interface tongue.gif .

:: StarCraft II Articles ::
StarCraft II - GameDev Explaining the New Units
StarCraft II - Press Release

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post May 19 2007, 02:06 PM

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A video footage of SC2 drool.gif

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QUOTE(ubhm @ May 19 2007, 02:04 PM)
3:00 - FMV sequence in a spaceship - looks Terran - zooming in on a metal door - door opening - reveals a guy with a cigar in chains - prisoner - door shuts behind him - there's so much bass the room is shaking - guy steps into some kind of metallic devicce - legs are strapped in - guy rising toward ceiling - Korean text on screen got people very excited - another part of the machine is dropping metal arms on him - machine whirring - applying armor to his torso - extremly detailed visuals here - now guy is strapping on gloves - armor is molding together - seems like a Terran marine - rockets turn on - zerg now onscreen - Marine delivers a line - StarCraft 2 officially announced.
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Where is the video footage for this?
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If thats the case then as what Darth Vadell says Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.


Added on May 19, 2007, 2:20 pmHey wait thats the Generals Enginee Mod for Starcraft.

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 19 2007, 02:19 PM)
If thats the case then as what Darth Vadell says Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.


Added on May 19, 2007, 2:20 pmHey wait thats the Generals Enginee Mod for Starcraft.
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Yeap,thats a Generals mod called Starkiller.Google it and you'll find this mod.
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Ill try to update this page with pics if possible, my friend is there, i told him to take some shots, hopefully he remembers biggrin.gif .
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QUOTE(ubhm @ May 19 2007, 02:34 PM)
Ill try to update this page with pics if possible, my friend is there, i told him to take some shots, hopefully he remembers biggrin.gif .
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Gees I wish I can do that , your friend must be loaded or he is a korean.
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 19 2007, 02:39 PM)
Gees I wish I can do that , your friend must be loaded or he is a korean.
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He is a korean pro gamer.
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QUOTE(ubhm @ May 19 2007, 02:41 PM)
He is a korean pro gamer.
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How do u get to know him is he SC or W3?
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3:26 - Showing another video of "things to come." concept art for SC2 - zerg landscapes - ruined terran structures - freen filds - SC2 looks, at least visually, strikingly similar to SC1 - both in unit and map designs. Now showing a giant rush of zerglings - probably over 100 of them, swarming with no slowdown - mroe character art - finishes with the StarCraft II logo.

i dunno, guys, the writer of IGN is 1 of the few ppl in the world to get at first look at this game, but he seem very calm and bored when writing this update on IGN website, nothing about how awesome the game engine looks, just very detail description of units showing on the teaser....

i mean i will be more excited if OMGWFTBBQ is the only thing he can write on the update , at least then i kno SC2 will be awesome n leave us speechless at first sight, but judging from the update this guy is writing, i not setting my hopes too high.... sad.gif

"SC2 looks, at least visually, strikingly similar to SC1 - both in unit and map designs. " sweat.gif

hope we wouldnt be disapointed when the teaser is out on the net icon_rolleyes.gif
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http://pc.ign.com/articles/788/788627p1.html
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 19 2007, 02:44 PM)
How do u get to know him is he SC or W3?
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QUOTE(Neslo[#^PenG^#] @ May 19 2007, 02:45 PM)
3:26 - Showing another video of "things to come." concept art for SC2 - zerg landscapes - ruined terran structures - freen filds - SC2 looks, at least visually, strikingly similar to SC1 - both in unit and map designs. Now showing a giant rush of zerglings - probably over 100 of them, swarming with no slowdown - mroe character art - finishes with the StarCraft II logo.

i dunno, guys, the writer of IGN is 1 of the few ppl in the world to get at first look at this game, but he seem very calm and bored when writing this update on IGN website, nothing about how awesome the game engine looks, just very detail description of units showing on the teaser....

i mean i will be more excited if OMGWFTBBQ  is the only thing he can write on the update , at least then i kno SC2 will be awesome n leave us speechless at first sight, but judging from the update this guy is writing, i not setting my hopes too high.... sad.gif

"SC2 looks, at least visually, strikingly similar to SC1 - both in unit and map designs. " sweat.gif

hope we wouldnt be disapointed when the teaser is out on the net icon_rolleyes.gif
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I guess he is professional, and not some SC korean fanatic.

QUOTE(ubhm @ May 19 2007, 02:46 PM)
Thanks.


Added on May 19, 2007, 2:52 pm
QUOTE(ubhm @ May 19 2007, 02:46 PM)
It gives a Korean MMO in space feel.

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http://tvpot.daum.net/clip/ClipView.do?cli...hal&lu=l_head_1 video clip i think.
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Some more pictures.
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F*cking yeah!!!!!!
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 19 2007, 02:59 PM)
Wah clear shots nice pictures.
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http://tvpot.daum.net/clip/ClipView.do?cli...hal&lu=l_head_1

Cant load the video here.
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http://media.pc.ign.com/media/850/850126/imgs_1.html screenies from iGM hell yeahhhh

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Anyone know what does the korean words that got the crowd excited says?
Something related to SC1?
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 19 2007, 03:06 PM)
Hehe same here I'll play the game when its near release prolly withough cheat this time. I hope its 16 players this time round compared to W3 12 players.
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16 players will make the requirements really high. sweat.gif
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post May 19 2007, 03:12 PM

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So when will tis game release????
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Gosu Gosu Gosu???
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omfg i cant wait to play 4vs4 on this game.
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omfg i cant wait to play 4vs4 on this game.
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So they are having this game in korean???
I mean the cinematics are in Korean.
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Youtube video!


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OMFG super detail!!!!

a MUST buy!!!!
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Oh f*** the screenshots are just gorgeous.
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I guess thats just a cut scene video,if thats in game,im speechless.
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QUOTE(Araes @ May 19 2007, 03:17 PM)
Youtube video!


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Will there be a xelnaga or a combination race this time?
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Here the logo of SC2:
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post May 19 2007, 03:22 PM

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Man, look at those korean..hear how they cheer! laugh.gif rclxms.gif
The korean word in the video (according to youtube comment)
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This language is Korean.

"status : ....on service"
"...finally, the time is come."


Now, where is the gameplay video?!?! Can't wait!!!


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Hope tis game will release by tis year....
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The game design still retains the 'cutesie' look like War III tho IMHO. Everything has a rounded edge, even Terran units.


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Didn know thats how they make marriens. laugh.gif

Then I think there are plenty of criminals in the barracks when the barracks are destroyed they run wild.
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I'm surprised that the graphics are very 'lite' compared to games like COH and WIC this should be a very system friendly game just like Warcraft 3.

I want to know if the gameplay will introduce something new like in games such COH and WIC or will it stay the same. I somehow suspect the gameplay will be a carbon copy of SC1.
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Battlecruiser is back!!! "Yamate" gun~ drool.gif
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QUOTE(Araes @ May 19 2007, 03:27 PM)
I'm surprised that the graphics are very 'lite' compared to games like COH and WIC this should be a very system friendly game just like Warcraft 3.

I want to know if the gameplay will introduce something new like in games such COH and WIC or will it stay the same. I somehow suspect the gameplay will be a carbon copy of SC1.
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Same here I guess if they change the game play the koreans will not like it thus they keep to the same old gameplay, but then its still not yet even reached alpha or beta. Just like War3 they kinda changed the gameplay from what they intended it to be.
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But blizzard.com haven't announce anything....
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GG look at the zerging picture. All those shadow casted. GG low fps when that happens.

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The graphics look kinda like low standard compare to today's games.So,i shouldn't expect to see ragdoll physics in SC2.Anyway,i care more about gameplay than graphics.

Also,please not DotA 2 in SC2.
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Yamate canon looks like squirting ketchup.


Added on May 19, 2007, 3:38 pmI read somewhere they'll be implementing physics this time. Might be wrong.


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STARCRAFT(R) II UNVEILED PRESS RELEASE


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Blizzard Entertainment(R) announces highly anticipated sequel at 2007 Worldwide Invitational event in South Korea

SEOUL, South Korea - May 19, 2007 - Blizzard Entertainment(R) today unveiled StarCraft(R) II, the sequel to its award-winning real-time strategy game StarCraft, at the 2007 Blizzard Worldwide Invitational event in Seoul, South Korea. The announcement took place inside the Olympic Gymnastics Arena, in front of thousands of attendees, who received a presentation that included a StarCraft II cinematic trailer and a gameplay demonstration by the development team.

Designed to be the ultimate competitive real-time strategy game, StarCraft II will feature the return of the Protoss, Terran, and Zerg races, overhauled and re-imagined with Blizzard's signature approach to game balance. Each race will be further distinguished from the others, with several new units and new gameplay mechanics, as well as new abilities for some of the classic StarCraft units that will be making a reappearance in the game. StarCraft II will also feature a custom 3D-graphics engine with realistic physics and the ability to render several large, highly detailed units and massive armies on-screen simultaneously.

"With StarCraft II, we'll be able to do everything we wanted to do with the original StarCraft and more," stated Mike Morhaime, president and cofounder of Blizzard Entertainment. "We recognize that expectations are high following the long-running popularity of the original game, but we plan to meet those expectations and deliver an engaging, action-packed, competitive experience that StarCraft players and strategy gamers worldwide will enjoy."

StarCraft II will include a unique single-player campaign, as well as fast-paced online play through an upgraded version of Blizzard's renowned online gaming service, Battle.net(R). In addition, the game will come with a powerful, full-featured map editor that will put the same tools used by Blizzard's designers into the hands of players.

Blizzard is developing StarCraft II for simultaneous release on the Windows(R) and Macintosh(R) PC platforms. Further information about the game, including details on the single-player, multiplayer, and map-editor features, as well as system requirements, pricing, and availability, will be announced in the months ahead. To learn more about StarCraft II, please visit the official website at www.starcraft2.com.


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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 19 2007, 03:26 PM)
Didn know thats how they make marriens. laugh.gif

Then I think there are plenty of criminals in the barracks when the barracks are destroyed they run wild.
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I guess the marine in the trailer wont last long in the battle field coz you can notice his helmet close up with him having his cigar. sweat.gif
I guess he gonna suffocate to death first laugh.gif
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QUOTE(akiraceo @ May 19 2007, 03:43 PM)
I guess the marine in the trailer wont last long in the battle field coz you can notice his helmet close up with him having his cigar.  sweat.gif
I guess he gonna suffocate to death first  laugh.gif
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lol...got another marine what flex.gif flex.gif
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 19 2007, 03:37 PM)
The graphics look kinda like low standard compare to today's games.So,i shouldn't expect to see ragdoll physics in SC2.Anyway,i care more about gameplay than graphics.

Also,please not DotA 2 in SC2.
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Lol which brings the question, are they going to bring heroes?
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holy shit. This is so damn cool!!!
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QUOTE(ubhm @ May 19 2007, 04:01 PM)
Lol which brings the question, are they going to bring heroes?
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 19 2007, 04:05 PM)
Hope not,SC2 will look weird with an overpowered hero.
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No heroes, no Do*** gah.

Dotards can stay outdated in WC3 tongue.gif And SC fans can live in peace~
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how come this starcraft2 is just like another expansion pack to the sc1? no new race... sad.gif
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ May 19 2007, 04:07 PM)
how come this starcraft2 is just like another expansion pack to the sc1? no new race... sad.gif
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If they manage to make 3 unique balanced race,thats good enough.I prefer 3 balanced unique race than lots of imba race.


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No heroes, no Do*** gah.

Dotards can stay outdated in WC3 tongue.gif And SC fans can live in peace~
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I seconded that.

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Gameplay video!




Watch this teaser trailer if the earlier one crashes...



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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 19 2007, 03:37 PM)
The graphics look kinda like low standard compare to today's games.So,i shouldn't expect to see ragdoll physics in SC2.Anyway,i care more about gameplay than graphics.

Also,please not DotA 2 in SC2.
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Hopefully they wont make SC2 into DOTA.......
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Last time it's Defence Of The Ancients aka DOTA,

Now it's Base Of Defence Onslaught aka BODO
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QUOTE(Shooterz @ May 19 2007, 03:51 PM)
lol...got another marine what  flex.gif  flex.gif
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OMG... that's so cool! I mean the video

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QUOTE(slickz @ May 19 2007, 04:16 PM)
Last time it's Defence Of The Ancients aka DOTA,

Now it's Base Of Defence Onslaught aka BODO
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Come on, just recycle UMS from old SC and it's made of win and gold already.

How could people forget Evolve, Starship Trooper and Defend The Temple? vmad.gif

SC needs no mindless zombies to be legendary. tongue.gif

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DID SOMEBODY CALL FOR AN EXTERMINATOR?

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hands gatal d...time to upgrade my old crappy setup when this release
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QUOTE(Hunt @ May 19 2007, 04:15 PM)
Hopefully they wont make SC2 into DOTA.......
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QUOTE(slickz @ May 19 2007, 04:16 PM)
Last time it's Defence Of The Ancients aka DOTA,

Now it's Base Of Defence Onslaught aka BODO
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Seriously DotA really killed my interest in WC3.Now,i dont even feel like playing back WC3's melee game anymore.

Whatever DotA is it called in Sc2,i dont care but i just dont want it there at all.

Samething for those Tower Defence games,they also make me sick.


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OMGGGGG
EVEN IF THEY COME OUT THE DEMO NOW I WOULD BUY IT IF THEY CHARGE ME
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Seems like scrub is desperate now.

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I can view finish the trailer, arr.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 19 2007, 04:24 PM)
Seriously DotA really killed my interest in WC3.Now,i dont even feel like playing back WC3's melee game anymore.

Whatever DotA is it called in Sc2,i dont care but i just dont want it there at all.

Samething for those Tower Defence games,they also make me sick.
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hopefully SC2 map editor don't supports anything else beside terrain creating..
if not..it will really end up like WC3..
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OMFG the gameplay video that you posted drool.gif nuclear launch detected!
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not bad not bad.. i mean the 2nd trailer... WooT
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Finally something to repay the loyalty of all SC players after they called off the Starcraft: Ghost project.

Something to show those Dota noobs wut the real RTS is about.

OMG i miss those carriers with lots of interceptors flying around it...
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hopefully SC2 map editor don't supports anything else beside terrain creating..
if not..it will really end up like WC3..
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It really burns my eyes seeing a Footman slashing his sword with projectiles firing out.
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www.starcraft2.com is up laugh.gif

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ May 19 2007, 04:41 PM)
Finally something to repay the loyalty of all SC players after they called off the Starcraft: Ghost project.

Something to show those Dota noobs wut the real RTS is about.

OMG i miss those carriers with lots of interceptors flying around it...
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me too... sad.gif
hopefully they are not replacing it with the big triangle flying ship thingy with meteor liked lasers.. laugh.gif
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that last GG was pretty lame -.-
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QUOTE(khelben @ May 19 2007, 04:45 PM)
www.starcraft2.com is up laugh.gif
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I noticed that the Terran unit ghost's nuckler need to be planted like warhammer 40k mad doc atom? Not range liao? And drop nuckler that 3 ghost wont die? Lolz... In the old starcraft... They will die le if within the range *Forgot that warhammer unit how spell =_=" Sry*

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now now for the best viewed movie... please proceed to http://www.starcraft2.com

OMG!!! Stalker, a protoss unit that can blink have a Master Yoda like way of speaking... "From the Shadows... I come"

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www.starcraft2.com is up laugh.gif
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that last GG was pretty lame -.-
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There is a unit inside that 2nd video that "macam" C&C3 Tripod... LOLZ...

Macam only~ 3 leg and with 2 lasers shoot out
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 19 2007, 04:52 PM)
Mind to post a link here?
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 19 2007, 04:24 PM)
Seriously DotA really killed my interest in WC3.Now,i dont even feel like playing back WC3's melee game anymore.

Whatever DotA is it called in Sc2,i dont care but i just dont want it there at all.

Samething for those Tower Defence games,they also make me sick.


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Seems like scrub is desperate now.
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Yeah but I think if there is no dota there will be another mod and something like Tower Defence will come out since blizzard will definately have a modable map editor, and do not forget dota evolved from the 3 corridors and 3 corridors originated in Starcraft. Heros or not it still can be done but prolly no items and leveling up.

QUOTE(akiraceo @ May 19 2007, 04:29 PM)
hopefully SC2 map editor don't supports anything else beside terrain creating..
if not..it will really end up like WC3..
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I fear that too

QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ May 19 2007, 04:41 PM)
Finally something to repay the loyalty of all SC players after they called off the Starcraft: Ghost project.

Something to show those Dota noobs wut the real RTS is about.

OMG i miss those carriers with lots of interceptors flying around it...
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Yeah I hope it will be good and the video clips of that will be in it.

QUOTE(taeru @ May 19 2007, 04:46 PM)
that last GG was pretty lame -.-
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Mind to post a link here?
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http://www.starcraft2.com

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There is a unit inside that 2nd video that "macam" C&C3 Tripod... LOLZ...

Macam only~ 3 leg and with 2 lasers shoot out
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It looks more like a UT2007's Tripod.

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now now for the best viewed movie... please proceed to http://www.starcraft2.com

OMG!!! Stalker, a protoss unit that can blink have a Master Yoda like way of speaking... "From the Shadows... I come"
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Heh they have finally evolved.

QUOTE(allvin @ May 19 2007, 04:54 PM)
Btw, guys... what's mean "GG" in the video? blush.gif
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It means Good game lar.
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I hope there is no

Starcraft DOTA

Lolz =_____________________="

I remember starcraft custom game last time when i was 13... They all like POKEMON~ LOLOLOL!!! Pikachu was zerglings xD AHAHHAH!!! I STILL REMEMBER

HELL YEAH!!
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I think this is official.
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Btw, guys... what's mean "GG" in the video? blush.gif
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GG = Good Game

mentioned in advance when the winning party is about to finish off the loser.
basically is game over for u a**hole.

insult to injury, telling the fella good game when it isnt really over yet, but might as well be cause he's done for

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I hope there is no

Starcraft DOTA

Lolz =_____________________="

I remember starcraft custom game last time when i was 13... They all like POKEMON~ LOLOLOL!!! Pikachu was zerglings xD AHAHHAH!!! I STILL REMEMBER

HELL YEAH!!
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GG = Good Game

mentioned in advance when the winning party is about to finish off the loser.
basically is game over for u a**hole.

insult to injury, telling the fella good game when it isnt really over yet, but might as well be cause he's done for

rclxms.gif
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Who do u think the audiences are the whole of the gaming industry?

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Hmm. Dragoons have been replaced with Immortals. Interesting.
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That tripod thing has 0 collision size and is tall. Great to mask units when you're being scouted...but since its 3D now i guess you can't do that anymore unlike barracks masking over tanks so you cant click attack on them

I just hope they dont f*** up the other units like my favorite DT. Until now, the tank looks ugly; lings looks better now and overall great graphical improvement. Hope this releases soon smile.gif

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yea!! Starcaft comes alive, playing back older starcraft!!

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QUOTE(Soul-X @ May 19 2007, 04:50 PM)
I noticed that the Terran unit ghost's nuckler need to be planted like warhammer 40k mad doc atom? Not range liao? And drop nuckler that 3 ghost wont die? Lolz... In the old starcraft... They will die le if within the range *Forgot that warhammer unit how spell =_=" Sry*
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From what i see, the ghost is still range..they just came visible when near the area.
You can noticed the top 1 was running towards the "nuked hole" (forgot what's the term for the impact hole ^^") when he became visible.

QUOTE(Soul-X @ May 19 2007, 04:52 PM)
There is a unit inside that 2nd video that "macam" C&C3 Tripod... LOLZ...

Macam only~ 3 leg and with 2 lasers shoot out
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sadly to tell you this but that its the new dragoon..
check out the site..its there..
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can't wait for the CGI...mayb i just buy it for the CGI only? CGI Kerrigan should be hot!!!

is this game based on Generals engine?

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"Full map-making and scripting tools to give players incredible freedom in customizing and personalizing their gameplay experience"

One of the features is SC2 as stated in the web-sites... our Nightmare has just begun...
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No la, not that one >__< another one... Very tall geh...

The new dragoon is called as immortal~ Very pendek one...

What i mean is the tall tall one la @_@
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Isn't that Kerrigan!!!??!!
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QUOTE(Soul-X @ May 19 2007, 05:11 PM)
No la, not that one >__< another one... Very tall geh...

The new dragoon is called as immortal~ Very pendek one...

What i mean is the tall tall one la @_@
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the tall 1 with 2 red lasers that beam up for a long period of time each time it shoots, right?

Btw, I miss the dragoons.. stupid zergs destory them cry.gif
*runs for calling zerg stupid*

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QUOTE(Araes @ May 19 2007, 05:07 PM)
Hmm. Dragoons have been replaced with Immortals. Interesting.
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I also fins it interesting.I think Shuttle have been replaced with Phrase Prism.

QUOTE(taeru @ May 19 2007, 05:07 PM)
I just hope they dont f*** up the other units like my favorite DT. Until now, the tank looks ugly; lings looks better now and overall great graphical improvement. Hope this releases soon smile.gif
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Siege tank looks funny with the tracks coming out the tank.

QUOTE(navilink @ May 19 2007, 05:10 PM)
is this game based on Generals engine?
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Definitely not,since when Blizzard use EA's crappy SAGE engine.

QUOTE(Yue @ May 19 2007, 05:10 PM)
"Full map-making and scripting tools to give players incredible freedom in customizing and personalizing their gameplay experience"

One of the features is SC2 as stated in the web-sites... our Nightmare has just begun...
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Yeap,our nightmare has begun.DotA will be back in another form.
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QUOTE(Yue @ May 19 2007, 05:13 PM)
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Isn't that Kerrigan!!!??!!
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Yeah my kinda gal brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif drool.gif


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I also fins it interesting.I think Shuttle have been replaced with Phrase Prism.
Siege tank looks funny with the tracks coming out the tank.
Definitely not,since when Blizzard use EA's crappy SAGE engine.
Yeap,our nightmare has begun.DotA will be back in another form.
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After thinking for a while if there is no heros to carry items and level up then dota does not exist.

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After thinking for a while if there is no heros to carry items and level up then dota does not exist.
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We cant jump to conclusion so fast.Blizzard havent show much yet.
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Hehe everyone's so hype about the announcement of StarCraft2.

Great now lets wait for them to finish the game.. I say it wont be out for another 3 years laugh.gif
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how soon was it when they released starcraft 1 after the announcement?

From what I see it looks pretty complete. I dont think we have to wait a year. I dare to say it comes out this year.

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Now that it's announced, F**k yeah.

Hopefully coming asap, don't delay too long, but better delay so it'll be good. A few months won't kill.

Diablo MMO coming? Massive?
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Ok lets take some votes and some betting who says this year who says 2008 2009 2010??


Added on May 19, 2007, 5:35 pmAfter all guys don't forget its Blizzard.

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The Probe is cute! Hahaha
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I wish they use the good old SC cursor really loved it.
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IT'S ABOUT TIME, DELL IS YOUR CHOICE.
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Yeah Baby prolly have to wait 12 if its out in 2010.
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laugh.gif This is funny.

QUOTE(H4RRY @ May 18 2007, 04:38 PM)
Starcraft 2 is not coming, Blizzard is not so stupid as to butcher their own game. Starcraft is f**king perfect, if the sequel can't make up for it, i'll personally go n burn down Blizzard's office.

It's either a new game or something to do with Diablo. I'm guessing the new MMO is Diablo MMO n we might be looking at a new franchaise. They need more franchaise to break free. Maybe an FPS? LOL, i wet my pants with orgasm.
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What's wrong with u all? Why make sequels when new games are awesome? We're talking about Blizzard here. New franchaise = orgasm. Sequels = premature ejaculation.
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QUOTE(H4RRY @ May 19 2007, 05:34 PM)
Now that it's announced, F**k yeah.
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But yeah a Diablo MMO should be awesome. Dark, demonic, diabolic atmosphere is gonna be great. Everyone will leave WoW and play Diablo mmo laugh.gif
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QUOTE(khelben @ May 19 2007, 05:45 PM)
laugh.gif This is funny.
And then..

And when it's official..
But yeah a Diablo MMO should be awesome. Dark, demonic, diabolic atmosphere is gonna be great. Everyone will leave WoW and play Diablo mmo laugh.gif
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What about SC+ Diablo+ Warcraft, theh they are connected through a warp call Bnet.
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Do you guys know what is the expansion for the Starcraft 2 called?
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FINALLY!!! YIPEE!!! But i have a bad feeling that dark templar's not gonna feature in this game
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No expansion for SC2 yet.
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But yeah a Diablo MMO should be awesome. Dark, demonic, diabolic atmosphere is gonna be great. Everyone will leave WoW and play Diablo mmo laugh.gif
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MMO yawn.gif

Thank gawd they didnt make Diablo MMO.

QUOTE(wind_feng @ May 19 2007, 05:54 PM)
FINALLY!!! YIPEE!!! But i have a bad feeling that dark templar's not gonna feature in this game
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They are still in the game.DT even have a new unit call Stalker which can blink.
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* Worldwide Announcement Exclusive *
Estimated Ship Date: October 2007 *
Limited Edition * Price: $249.99 *
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Haha! I was right! it will ship out this year!

I dont quite get the fears that certain units wont be in the game and what not, it's still starcraft 2. It's how blizzard made the game. I'm sure there'll be gripes but in the end everyone will shut up and just play the game. Then afterwards they'll fall in luv with the new units.



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From their website, I think they have done quite a lot of work lets hope it will be out in 2008/2009. While to many, Starcraft 1 was too perfect...but come on by the time SC 2 is out, SC 1 will be a 10-years old game. Its long enough already to have all the glamor so quit worrying that it won't be as good. How bad would Blizzard screwed SC 2? It is their their franchise after all.

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Here is the link guys.

https://us.blizzard.com/sc2collectible/starcraft2/menu.html
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MMO yawn.gif

Thank gawd they didnt make Diablo MMO.
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Of course they didn't. MMO wasn't popular or non-existent back then laugh.gif And connections weren't as great as today's.

But they've confirmed something big on their Diablo project.

QUOTE(slickz @ May 19 2007, 06:03 PM)
Haha! I was right! it will ship out this year!

I dont quite get the fears that certain units wont be in the game and what not, it's still starcraft 2. It's how blizzard made the game. I'm sure there'll be gripes but in the end everyone will shut up and just play the game. Then afterwards they'll fall in luv with the new units.
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When is the game coming out?

At this point, it's too early to provide an initial estimate on the release date. As with all Blizzard games, we will take as much time as needed to ensure the game is as fun, balanced, and polished as possible.

http://www.starcraft2.com/faq.xml
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QUOTE(Yue @ May 19 2007, 05:10 PM)
"Full map-making and scripting tools to give players incredible freedom in customizing and personalizing their gameplay experience"

One of the features is SC2 as stated in the web-sites... our Nightmare has just begun...
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QUOTE(khelben @ May 19 2007, 06:11 PM)
Of course they didn't. MMO wasn't popular or non-existent back then laugh.gif And connections weren't as great as today's.

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If im not wrong,Bill Roper was working on D3 before he left and made Hellgate.

Now,i think someone else is making that game.


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time to migrate dota.
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Please dont taint this thread with the stinking DotA.

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time to migrate dota.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 19 2007, 05:58 PM)
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Thank gawd they didnt make Diablo MMO.
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HELL ... its about time !! .. btw, anyone know where i could direct download the cinematic trailer avi file ?
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SC2 has heroes like WC3??
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 19 2007, 06:17 PM)
Please dont taint this thread with the stinking DotA.
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 19 2007, 06:19 PM)
No dota please, dotards stay where you are.
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They be announcing the next Diablo in August at BlizzCon. It could very well be an mmo or least an mmo type game.
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I think it might be something close to Hellgate.

If they really review D3 in front of those Korean,they are looking for trouble.
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Just viewed the trailers on Starcraft2.com... I guess the Marine-like hero spoke for all of us when he said, "Hell, Its about time." Ehehe
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I think Diablo 3's going to be an MMO.... looking for the standard... hope they didn't screw it up like they screw the mechanics of WoW
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QUOTE(Quest613 @ May 19 2007, 06:25 PM)
SC2 has heroes like WC3??
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No no heroes here this is ahem Starcraft.

QUOTE(hizperion @ May 19 2007, 06:26 PM)
sorry, this is reality laugh.gif
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oops nope this is not dotardcraft u can be a good little boy and play it in warcraft3.
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QUOTE(Quest613 @ May 19 2007, 06:25 PM)
SC2 has heroes like WC3??
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QUOTE(hizperion @ May 19 2007, 06:26 PM)
sorry, this is reality laugh.gif
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To all Dotards,please stay in your stinking Dotards s**t hole and stop posting the word DotA in this thread.

Also,as a reminder,Blizzard didnt make retarded DotA.

Wahts more,we are talking about Starcraft 2,not DotA here.


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Guys it will coming out tis year October...
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I can't download the video, 0 kb/s all the time, I've even portforwarded it already

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ May 19 2007, 06:38 PM)
I can't down the video, 0 kb/s all the time, I've even portforwarded it already
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same here sad.gif

anyone downloaded it and mind to share it?
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I think Diablo 3's going to be an MMO.... looking for the standard... hope they didn't screw it up like they screw the mechanics of WoW
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I think it will be something like Hellgate with a single player.

WoW is already Blizzard's MMO,dont think they want another MMO that is similar to WoW.
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luckily i'm not a dotard rolleyes.gif

but as usual..map designers will have fun with new stuffs from blizzard. can't we? lol?


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QUOTE(Sichiri @ May 19 2007, 06:38 PM)
I can't download the video, 0 kb/s all the time, I've even portforwarded it already
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same here btw icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 19 2007, 06:39 PM)
I think it will be something like Hellgate with a single player.

WoW is already Blizzard's MMO,dont think they want another MMO that is similar to WoW.
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Coz Blizzard has announce the limited edition n the estimated shipping date is October 2007
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luckily i'm not a dotard rolleyes.gif

but as usual..map designers will have fun with new stuffs from blizzard. can't we? lol?

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luckily i'm not a dotard rolleyes.gif

but as usual..map designers will have fun with new stuffs from blizzard. can't we? lol?


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same here btw icon_question.gif
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er.. link please
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Damn it, tmnet block bt.
the cinematic trailer download is so slow
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er.. link please
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here it is.
https://us.blizzard.com/sc2collectible/starcraft2/menu.html

QUOTE(hizperion @ May 19 2007, 06:46 PM)
enough feeding. ima outta here laugh.gif

dota, serious business.
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Bye dotard and stay where you are.

QUOTE(syyang85 @ May 19 2007, 06:48 PM)
Damn it, tmnet block bt.
the cinematic trailer download is so slow
still stuck in 0%
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Same here. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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Zerg rushing will never be the same.
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issit just me or these pics just seem dull. mroe like a more colourful and 3d version of the original starcraft.

duno, didnt provide the wow factor of sup com or c&c 3
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Zerg rushing will never be the same.
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They are fast rapid suicide bombers now.

Wish SC would adop Sup Com's unit transports.
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QUOTE(wayne_chen @ May 19 2007, 06:43 PM)
Coz Blizzard has announce the limited edition n the estimated shipping date is October 2007
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 19 2007, 06:52 PM)
Ugh...please read the whole page before posting. That is not the limited edition of the game that is for TYCHUS FINDLAY LIMITED EDITION STATUE.

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as for now this is the high quality cinematic trailer from youtube
download

http://youtube.com/get_video?video_id=d5ZC...U34WbF0LWu5jytf
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Hell, it's about time! Now all we need is a Diablo 3! biggrin.gif
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here it is.
https://us.blizzard.com/sc2collectible/starcraft2/menu.html
Bye dotard and stay where you are.
Same here.  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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This should be the title of the game SC2: Hell Its About Time. ROFL. laugh.gif

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Where the fux is STARCRAFT: GHOST?
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 19 2007, 06:59 PM)
issit just me or these pics just seem dull. mroe like a more colourful and 3d version of the original starcraft.

duno, didnt provide the wow factor of sup com or c&c 3
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It's far from finished. Even in the FAQ, the development team still considering whether the game to be fully DX10 exclusive or not. It may be different from the final release. It's still sweet nevertheless, just to see the "starcraft 2' is no longer rumour or fake mod. Good or bad, we have to wait for the answer.
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QUOTE(DDSFan8 @ May 19 2007, 07:08 PM)
Where the fux is STARCRAFT: GHOST?
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QUOTE(Araes @ May 19 2007, 07:02 PM)
Ugh...please read the whole page before posting. That is not the limited edition of the game that is for TYCHUS FINDLAY LIMITED EDITION STATUE.

user posted image
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I thought that statue comes with the game.

QUOTE(Araes @ May 19 2007, 07:08 PM)
This should be the title of the game SC2: Hell Its About Time. ROFL.  laugh.gif

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Should put this on the front page.
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Where the fux is STARCRAFT: GHOST?
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dunno. should be dead apparently. hope the ghost chick comes out in sc2 though tongue.gif

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female dark templar?

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All koreans throughout the nation celebrates and masturbates tonight.
Starcraft legacy continue, Boxer wont retire bfore he reach 40.Blizzard will pay him to go SC2. If the Emperor himself migrate to SC2 many will follow. New GOSU from the west will bring challenge to the koreans.New era have begun. Im very excited to see how pro-gaming community will turn out in few years.

PS:Some ppl dont give a damn about gosu's but i respect them alot. They are our pillar of balance. We can enjoy a balanced game because those gosu set the benchmark for the game(also for providing cookie cuts strat).The game balance revolves around them. If Grubby quits WC3 sure ORC will get buffed bigtime.

About DotA, i hope that word will become extinct in few years. Let me confess, i hate DotA, why? Bcoz of DotA my friends dont wnt to play melee with me anymore.They say "DotA is more fun, ladder game boring."I curse DotA.

QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 19 2007, 06:59 PM)
issit just me or these pics just seem dull. mroe like a more colourful and 3d version of the original starcraft.

duno, didnt provide the wow factor of sup com or c&c 3
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Who cares. The beauty of rts can be seen when gosu like Boxer play the game with 1337 skillz. Those wow factor of sup com and CNC are nothing compared to that.
I dare say some game like DoW:DC and CNC dont have any gosu. Shame most pro quit DoW when they announce there will be no DoW in wcg this year. Know where they go? CNC3.Why not SC or WC3 if their reaso for playing is wcg? because they are such reject that cant compete in SC and WC3. Games like DoW and other rts dont have players that can set a standard for the game. Their top player are nothing like SC and WC3 gosus. Thats why some games have serious balance problem.Anyway its just my opinion.

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rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

i'm so glad i left dota six months ago...... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Download the low res cinematics trailer here...

Starcraft 2 - Cinematic Trailer - QT

Starcraft 2 - Cinematic Trailer - WMV
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QUOTE(RtP|DEV @ May 19 2007, 07:13 PM)
All koreans throughout the nation celebrates and masturbates tonight.
Starcraft legacy continue, Boxer wont retire bfore he reach 40.Blizzard will pay him to go SC2. If the Emperor himself migrate to SC2 many will follow. New GOSU from the west will bring challenge to the koreans.New era have begun. Im very excited to see how pro-gaming community will turn out in few years.

PS:Some ppl dont give a damn about gosu's but i respect them alot. They are our pillar of balance. We can enjoy a balanced game because those gosu set the benchmark for the game(also for providing cookie cuts strat).The game balance revolves around them. If Grubby quits WC3 sure ORC will get buffed bigtime.

About DotA, i hope that word will become extinct in few years. Let me confess, i hate DotA, why? Bcoz of DotA my friends dont wnt to play melee with  me anymore.They say "DotA is more fun, ladder game boring."I curse DotA.
Who cares. The beauty of rts can be seen when gosu like Boxer play the game with 1337 skillz. Those wow factor of sup com and CNC are nothing compared to that.
I dare say some game like DoW:DC and CNC dont have any gosu. Shame most pro quit DoW when they announce there will be no DoW in wcg this year. Know where they go? CNC3.Why not SC or WC3 if their reaso for playing is wcg? because they are such reject that cant compete in SC and WC3. Games like DoW and other rts dont have players that can set a standard for the game. Their top player are nothing like SC and WC3 gosus. Thats why some games have serious balance problem.Anyway its just my opinion.
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wow, is it necessary to go all out with that? To each its own, the same could be say about SC or WC pro who didn't compete in other games thus they teh suck? laugh.gif

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StarCraft II continues the epic saga of the Protoss, Terran, and Zerg. These three distinct and powerful races will clash once again in the fast-paced real-time strategy sequel to the legendary original, StarCraft. Legions of veteran, upgraded, and brand-new unit types will do battle across the galaxy, as each faction struggles for survival.

Features:

    * Fast-paced, hard-hitting, tightly balanced competitive real-time strategy
    * Three completely distinct races: Protoss, Terran, and Zerg
    * New units and gameplay mechanics further distinguish each race
    * Groundbreaking single-player "story-mode" campaign
    * Vibrant new 3D-graphics engine with support for dazzling visual effects and massive unit and army sizes
    * Full multiplayer support, with new competitive features and matchmaking utilities available through Battle.net
    * Full map-making and scripting tools to give players incredible freedom in customizing and personalizing their gameplay experience
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eatures of the Official StarCraft 2 Website:

    * Uses XML
    * Offers a flash show of the Cinematic Trailer, Art Movie, and Gameplay Video
    * Downloadable Cinematic Trailer
    * Downloadable Artwork Trailer
    * 10 SC2 Screenshots
    * 16 SC2 Artworks
    * 3 Wallpapers featuring the StarCraft 2 Logo; a Terran Marine; and Zertaul! Sizes ranging from 800x600 to 1920x1200
    * FAQ
    * Feature List

As of the time of this writing, the downloadable Gameplay Video is not yet available.
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Here are the latest updates and features from StarCraft2.com:

Zealot (Protoss Unit): Zealots are peerless templar warriors who have yet to achieve the uppermost ranks of the Khala. Ever eager for battle, zealots train constantly to attune themselves more closely to the Khala's disciplines and prove themselves worthy of advancement. They exemplify the unbridled ferocity of the protoss at war... More Info...

Immortal (Protoss Unit): Before the loss of Aiur, veteran protoss warriors who had been crippled in battle could volunteer to continue their service by being transplanted into dragoon exoskeletons. Now, the dragoons of the past are all but gone... More Info...

Stalker (Protoss Unit): Inspired by the ancient and honored dragoon walkers the dark templar have begun to build war machines of their own. The stalker is a machine controlled by the shadow-essence of a dark templar warrior, willingly fused into its metal body to protect his people... More Info...

Phase Prism (Protoss Unit): The protoss use these "phase prisms" in several ways. Their primary function is to transport protoss forces on the field of battle. Both living and inorganic subjects can be transformed into energy, and their unique energy signature imprinted into the prism's crystal lattice core... More Info...

Gateway / Warp Gate (Protoss Building): The protoss' ability to manipulate time and space far surpasses the limited understanding of other races. A gateway is a structure capable of opening a spatial rift via which protoss forces can be warped directly from their home territories to the battlefield... More Info...
Sources:
:: StarCraft II Articles ::
StarCraft II - Press Release
StarCraft II - Official Details
StarCraft 2 Screenshots
StarCraft 2 Video Trailer
It is Official: Next Big Game of Blizzard - StarCraft 2


Spread the love!
After 9 years of dreaming, its now OFFICIAL!!!

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It's far from finished. Even in the FAQ, the development team still considering whether  the game to be fully DX10 exclusive or not.  It may be different from the final release. It's still sweet nevertheless, just to see the "starcraft 2' is no longer rumour or fake mod. Good or bad,  we have to wait for the answer.
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All koreans throughout the nation celebrates and masturbates tonight.
Starcraft legacy continue, Boxer wont retire bfore he reach 40.Blizzard will pay him to go SC2. If the Emperor himself migrate to SC2 many will follow. New GOSU from the west will bring challenge to the koreans.New era have begun. Im very excited to see how pro-gaming community will turn out in few years.

PS:Some ppl dont give a damn about gosu's but i respect them alot. They are our pillar of balance. We can enjoy a balanced game because those gosu set the benchmark for the game(also for providing cookie cuts strat).The game balance revolves around them. If Grubby quits WC3 sure ORC will get buffed bigtime.

About DotA, i hope that word will become extinct in few years. Let me confess, i hate DotA, why? Bcoz of DotA my friends dont wnt to play melee with  me anymore.They say "DotA is more fun, ladder game boring."I curse DotA.
Who cares. The beauty of rts can be seen when gosu like Boxer play the game with 1337 skillz. Those wow factor of sup com and CNC are nothing compared to that.
I dare say some game like DoW:DC and CNC dont have any gosu. Shame most pro quit DoW when they announce there will be no DoW in wcg this year. Know where they go? CNC3.Why not SC or WC3 if their reaso for playing is wcg? because they are such reject that cant compete in SC and WC3. Games like DoW and other rts dont have players that can set a standard for the game. Their top player are nothing like SC and WC3 gosus. Thats why some games have serious balance problem.Anyway its just my opinion.
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are u saying C&C not as good as SC?
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yeah we still have to wait but at least now its no longer a rumour and something to look forward to biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ May 19 2007, 07:36 PM)
are u saying C&C not as good as SC?
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Every game has its own pros and cons. About which game is better, it depends on ppl.
I myself enjoys Dark Crusade.
What im trying to say the competitive nature of SC owns everything, even WC3.I used to read FOV interview, in which he said in Korea progamer are divided into 2 group, sc gamer and non-sc gamer.

To me there are many RTS that are good in design, but what makes SC and WC3 stand the test of time, is company support and balance which is created by the gosu.

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really miss that terran marine injecting supercharged drug sound...haha

after checking out some of the gameplay's video, it looks like Supreme Commander in space...hmmm with all those lasers and many many units
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hahha.. its about time alrite..

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QUOTE(ubhm @ May 19 2007, 07:40 PM)
Btw where is ash, i know he loves starcraft.
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QUOTE(navilink @ May 19 2007, 08:28 PM)
really miss that terran marine injecting supercharged drug sound...haha

after checking out some of the gameplay's video, it looks like Supreme Commander in space...hmmm with all those lasers and many many units
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you meant the Stim Packs?....friggin awesome stuff to use along with Medics.....man, i miss watching Boxer playing...XD...micromanagement FTW!!!...XD
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alrite!!! can use Yamate gun again......or rather Yamato gun lol

wowow and remember the carrier "carrier has arrived"
arbiter "warp field stabilized"
zealots "its a good day to die"

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I wan to see the freaking Protoss's Carrier!!! Hopefully they don't remove it from SC2. But I don't mind if they replace it with something cooler whistling.gif
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they replaced the Dragoons with Immortals...XD....it looks a bit ghey for me though...still prefer Dragoons, but hopefully they are less clumsy now...coz last time dragoon can really crack ur head when ur trying to make'em move

btw, the Zealots didnt say "it is a good day to die" those are the air unit's line, not the scout, i forgot it's name..XD....Zealots say "MY LIFE FOR AIUR!!!"...

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QUOTE(chOOOk @ May 19 2007, 08:56 PM)
alrite!!! can use Yamate gun again......or rather Yamato gun lol

wowow and remember the carrier "carrier has arrived"
arbiter "warp field stabilized"
zealots "its a good day to die"

any else?
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"zu kon!" by the protoss probe flex.gif
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QUOTE(hao @ May 19 2007, 09:00 PM)
I wan to see the freaking Protoss's Carrier!!! Hopefully they don't remove it from SC2. But I don't mind if they replace it with something cooler whistling.gif
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i guess they replace it sad.gif
so does the scouts..i guess aw sure will be sad.gif ..

QUOTE(Rowan23 @ May 19 2007, 09:03 PM)
they replaced the Dragoons with Immortals...XD....it looks a bit ghey for me though...still prefer Dragoons, but hopefully they are less clumsy now...coz last time dragoon can really crack ur head when ur trying to make'em move

btw, the Zealots didnt say "it is a good day to die" those are the air unit's line, not the scout, i forgot it's name..XD....Zealots say "MY LIFE FOR AIUR!!!"...
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yalo..i prefer the old 1 too..
and our dark templar has change into a machine ><
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ May 19 2007, 07:09 PM)
It's far from finished. Even in the FAQ, the development team still considering whether  the game to be fully DX10 exclusive or not.  It may be different from the final release. It's still sweet nevertheless, just to see the "starcraft 2' is no longer rumour or fake mod. Good or bad,  we have to wait for the answer.
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I hope it's not DX10 exclusive.A lot of people cant play this game.

QUOTE(lamely_named @ May 19 2007, 07:11 PM)
wowowowowowowowowoowowowowowoow
wowowowowowoowowowowowowowowoowo
wowowowowoowowowowowowowowoowowo

Queen of blades, I hope there's some cheesy love story this time.
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About DotA, i hope that word will become extinct in few years. Let me confess, i hate DotA, why? Bcoz of DotA my friends dont wnt to play melee with  me anymore.They say "DotA is more fun, ladder game boring."I curse DotA.

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I do hope that word disappear now.Samething happen to my friends,all playing DotA and dont give a s**t about other RTS like C&C3,DC or even melee WC3.

Anyone who says DotA requires a lot of micro and macro need to be get shot.

QUOTE(akiraceo @ May 19 2007, 09:15 PM)
i guess they replace it sad.gif
so does the scouts..i guess aw sure will be sad.gif ..
yalo..i prefer the old 1 too..
and our dark templar has change into a machine ><
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I think Dark Templar should be there.Stalker is just one of their vehicles or something.
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wah when will it be launch ah , really want to get one smile.gif, so anyone paln to get remember pm me thanks smile.gif, wah so expensive at other country ah tongue.gif US 249 ah sad.gif, at malaysia is it will be more expensive ah tongue.gif

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but it's really about time for a blizzard game!!!

hope it will be better than WC3!

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Haha BODO !

Anyway I also another person who surprise with the graphic, it's just like and slightly improved engine of Wacracft 3 (look at the explosion, it's a bit like "paste" onto it).

Actually, I don't mind if they put hero units inside. But, 1 of each race, so those dotards will have no chance to make it into dota. And I wonder if there will be any surprising super weapon for protoss and zerg? Hope the game play will be good. I strongly doubt that Blizzard increase the unit caps (look at the pics with tons of zergling :drools:)

Even I am a bigger fan of C&C series, but feel super anxious for this game, come come come w00t !!!!! *added to my ori game list*


Added on May 19, 2007, 9:47 pm
QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 19 2007, 09:25 PM)
I hope it's not DX10 exclusive.A lot of people cant play this game.

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Sure it wont, Blizzard game are usually (actually, always) requirement friendly, wont purposely force players to upgrade their rig just for this game, unlike the hell cryteck, wanna lansi coz thier game need super computer to play.

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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 19 2007, 09:43 PM)
Sure it wont, Blizzard game are usually (actually, always) requirement friendly, wont purposely force players to upgrade their rig just for this game, unlike the hell cryteck, wanna lansi coz thier game need super computer to play.
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Guess they'll make it DX9.0 and DX10 backwards compatible.

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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 19 2007, 09:43 PM)
Haha BODO !

Anyway I also another person who surprise with the graphic, it's just like and slightly improved engine of Wacracft 3 (look at the explosion, it's a bit like "paste" onto it).

Actually, I don't mind if they put hero units inside. But, 1 of each race, so those dotards will have no chance to make it into dota. And I wonder if there will be any surprising super weapon for protoss and zerg? Hope the game play will be good. I strongly doubt that Blizzard increase the unit caps (look at the pics with tons of zergling :drools:)

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The explosion looks pretty good.

I just dont want heroes in SC2,unless they are not as overpower as WC3's heroes which i find it annoying.It makes the whole game seems like it's just concentrate on the heroes only.

So far,there are no sign of heroes in SC2.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 19 2007, 09:52 PM)
The explosion looks pretty good.

I just dont want heroes in SC2,unless they are not as overpower as WC3's heroes which i find it annoying.It makes the whole game seems like it's just concentrate on the heroes only.

So far,there are no sign of heroes in SC2.
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I too wish that they'd not have heroes for SC2. WC is unlike SC in that the story is driven by it's heroes whereas in StarCraft most of it isn't. What Starcraft has are it's characters, NOT heroes that drive the story forward.
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That will be fine as well, so it wont be the rule " Hero die == defeated" rule like in WC3 melee game.

Anyway just tell u all something, jsutn ow I was so exciting and go tell my friend about SC2 is announced. Guess how's the reply?

Me : Hey SC2 is coming! It looks so fun !!! What do ya think abt it?

him: Dota time, tata"

Me : F**K you....*offline messaging enable... ...*

Anyway here are something I fonud from SC2 FAQ site:

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- Will the game run natively on Windows Vista? StarCraft II will be fully compatible with Windows Vista, as well as XP. We'll have more details on system requirements closer to release.

- Will StarCraft II take advantage of DirectX 10? What other graphical goodies are included? The game will be compatible with DirectX 10, and we're still considering whether there will be exclusive DirectX 10 graphic effects, but the graphics engine will also be very scalable to ensure that a wide range of different systems will be capable of running StarCraft II. The new engine is also capable of rendering very large units, as well as large numbers of units on screen together. Havok physics have been integrated into the engine for added realism as well.
Source: SC2 FAQ Page


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-> http://gameshogun.ws/Video/2007/05/19/star...2_video_trailer (UPDATE #3)

Now with an actual footage of the StarCraft II Gameplay 1.

Also added, an actual footage of StarCraft II Gameplay 2!!

feel free to put it on the OP. happy.gif


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QUOTE(lamely_named @ May 19 2007, 07:11 PM)
wowowowowowowowowoowowowowowoow
wowowowowowoowowowowowowowowoowo
wowowowowoowowowowowowowowoowowo

Queen of blades, I hope there's some cheesy love story this time.
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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ May 19 2007, 07:13 PM)
new unit:

female marine?

female dark templar?
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Hmm yeah more females.

QUOTE(RtP|DEV @ May 19 2007, 07:13 PM)
All koreans throughout the nation celebrates and masturbates tonight.
Starcraft legacy continue, Boxer wont retire bfore he reach 40.Blizzard will pay him to go SC2. If the Emperor himself migrate to SC2 many will follow. New GOSU from the west will bring challenge to the koreans.New era have begun. Im very excited to see how pro-gaming community will turn out in few years.

PS:Some ppl dont give a damn about gosu's but i respect them alot. They are our pillar of balance. We can enjoy a balanced game because those gosu set the benchmark for the game(also for providing cookie cuts strat).The game balance revolves around them. If Grubby quits WC3 sure ORC will get buffed bigtime.

About DotA, i hope that word will become extinct in few years. Let me confess, i hate DotA, why? Bcoz of DotA my friends dont wnt to play melee with  me anymore.They say "DotA is more fun, ladder game boring."I curse DotA.
Who cares. The beauty of rts can be seen when gosu like Boxer play the game with 1337 skillz. Those wow factor of sup com and CNC are nothing compared to that.
I dare say some game like DoW:DC and CNC dont have any gosu. Shame most pro quit DoW when they announce there will be no DoW in wcg this year. Know where they go? CNC3.Why not SC or WC3 if their reaso for playing is wcg? because they are such reject that cant compete in SC and WC3. Games like DoW and other rts dont have players that can set a standard for the game. Their top player are nothing like SC and WC3 gosus. Thats why some games have serious balance problem.Anyway its just my opinion.
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YEah another dotards hater. I hate the game with the same reasons you have and some more......
SC2 is definately gonna be in WCG.

QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ May 19 2007, 07:18 PM)
rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

i'm so glad i left dota six months ago...... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Its a good thing that you left dota.

QUOTE(jasonkwk @ May 19 2007, 07:36 PM)
are u saying C&C not as good as SC?
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 19 2007, 09:58 PM)
That will be fine as well, so it wont be the rule " Hero die == defeated" rule like in WC3 melee game.

Anyway just tell u all something, jsutn ow I was so exciting and go tell my friend about SC2 is announced. Guess how's the reply?

Me : Hey SC2 is coming! It looks so fun !!! What do ya think abt it?

him: Dota time, tata"

Me : F**K you....*offline messaging enable... ...*
*
All Dotards are like that.Thats the reason i dont want to tell my friends.Some even might still dont know that game exist,even after it's released.That happen when C&C3 released.No one knows until one of them bought a pirated copy.

C&C3 Guy:Hey,i just bought C&C3

Dotards:Wah,got C&C3 adi meh?

C&C3 Guy:Ya,just played a few mission.

Dotards:Oh ok,lets talk DotA.Yesterday ar,i got killed by this *****....(continues with lots of foul language)

Im really sick with these people.
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Hee hee first time I feel the game dun release too fast (last time always hope the game release just tomorrow when I know about it). Coz I haven't play my CNC3 enough. (still getting pwned by ppl online...)

Well, let's set a target for myself, C&C 3 is my first ori game, if SC2 is not too far, let's make it second (definitely go buy the collector's edition or whatever they call it)thumbup.gif

ANyway so far no sign of fouth race. But fortunately the game is Vista compatible. But it's not state if it's Vista 64bit compatible.. ... erm... ... (refer to my previous post for the system compatibility)


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i hope someone wont make a custom SC2 map like DOTA...

if so....SC2 will be history in 1 year time then everyone wiill be playing SOTA..not DOTA anymore
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i hope starcraft2 support widescreen and standard resolution.
from the wallpaper section, looks like widescreen resolution is available. w00t

i also hate dota. IMO, dota kills your brain & intelligence in rts. looks what happen to the warcraft3 subforum, it's no longer about the true warcraft anymore. full of dotards with dota topics.

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QUOTE(RtP|DEV @ May 19 2007, 07:13 PM)
All koreans throughout the nation celebrates and masturbates tonight.
Starcraft legacy continue, Boxer wont retire bfore he reach 40.Blizzard will pay him to go SC2. If the Emperor himself migrate to SC2 many will follow. New GOSU from the west will bring challenge to the koreans.New era have begun. Im very excited to see how pro-gaming community will turn out in few years.

PS:Some ppl dont give a damn about gosu's but i respect them alot. They are our pillar of balance. We can enjoy a balanced game because those gosu set the benchmark for the game(also for providing cookie cuts strat).The game balance revolves around them. If Grubby quits WC3 sure ORC will get buffed bigtime.

About DotA, i hope that word will become extinct in few years. Let me confess, i hate DotA, why? Bcoz of DotA my friends dont wnt to play melee with  me anymore.They say "DotA is more fun, ladder game boring."I curse DotA.
Who cares. The beauty of rts can be seen when gosu like Boxer play the game with 1337 skillz. Those wow factor of sup com and CNC are nothing compared to that.
I dare say some game like DoW:DC and CNC dont have any gosu. Shame most pro quit DoW when they announce there will be no DoW in wcg this year. Know where they go? CNC3.Why not SC or WC3 if their reaso for playing is wcg? because they are such reject that cant compete in SC and WC3. Games like DoW and other rts dont have players that can set a standard for the game. Their top player are nothing like SC and WC3 gosus. Thats why some games have serious balance problem.Anyway its just my opinion.
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come come let me give u my opinion about why gosus or so called gosus from dawn of war dark crusade changed to cnc3 and not star craft or warcraft 3.. the main reason is because cnc3 is newest among all these 3.. if u ask me alot of people will move to starcraft 2 if cnc 3 is not in wcg.. this is because star craft and warcraft are much older and whats the point in joinin games where people have much more experience then you do unless you are really talented and u join really good clan for training and tips.. correct me if im wrong icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Malaysian @ May 19 2007, 10:21 PM)
i hope someone wont make a custom SC2 map like DOTA...

if so....SC2 will be history in 1 year time then everyone wiill be playing SOTA..not DOTA anymore
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I don't expect this shit to happen to StarCraft...neither do i want this to happen. DoTA was bad enough..don't put this idea into someone's head.
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I am freaking hyped now. Damn blizzard ><
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Okay, found a YouTube version of the English version of the Cinematic trailer.

Visit this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHl4GNBA6zU

It is downloadable from http://StarCraft2.com if you haven't check yet tongue.gif


I updated the gameshogun.ws Blogpost (Update #4) and added that new youtube video.

Enjoy all!!


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anyone manage to download the sc2 video from the official website? what's the reolution? i'm still stuck in 0%
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yoooo i will OT for that a week lohhhhhhhhhhh huhahahaha sure coming out already???
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QUOTE(scrubiee @ May 19 2007, 10:28 PM)
come come let me give u my opinion about why gosus or so called gosus from dawn of war dark crusade changed to cnc3 and not star craft or warcraft 3.. the main reason is because cnc3 is newest among all these 3.. if u ask me alot of people will move to starcraft 2 if cnc 3 is not in wcg.. this is because star craft and warcraft are much older and whats the point in joinin games where people have much more experience then you do unless you are really talented and u join really good clan for training and tips.. correct me if im wrong  icon_rolleyes.gif
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wtfeck scrubiee, your handle reminds me of that funny orc maphacker in kalimdor laugh.gif
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wo hoo...SC II

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 19 2007, 10:35 PM)
anyone manage to download the sc2 video from the official website? what's the reolution? i'm still stuck in 0%
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its worth it.. biggrin.gif
I have both.
What I didn't bother getting are the high-res screenshots and artwork. I'll just download from their press site.


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QUOTE(ubhm @ May 19 2007, 07:40 PM)
Btw where is ash, i know he loves starcraft.
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QUOTE(RtP|DEV @ May 19 2007, 08:17 PM)
Every game has its own pros and cons. About which game is better, it depends on ppl.
I myself enjoys Dark Crusade.
What im trying to say the competitive nature of SC owns everything, even WC3.I used to read FOV interview, in which he said in Korea progamer are divided into 2 group, sc gamer and non-sc gamer.

To me there are many RTS that are good in design, but what makes SC and WC3 stand the test of time, is company support and balance which is created by the gosu.
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QUOTE(ubhm @ May 19 2007, 10:10 PM)
Lol its become a dota bashing thread.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 19 2007, 10:37 PM)
I think one example is Ravana.One of SG's pro,quits DC when C&C3 is in WCG.
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YEah hope he goes into SC and thats when the reall challenge beggins.
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how much would this game be ah? seldom buy original games, poor fella here.. XD
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DX10 exclusive?? Say it isn't so!!

I like the sound of the protoss gateway. Teleport to any territory you own. Sweet.

Finally, waited so long. The best thing about Starcraft is the story(AOE2 is my favourite multiplayer rts). I can't wait to find out more about those zerg/protoss hybrids and also the Xel'Naga. rclxms.gif
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lol
he is a bad manner player
and his nick is ElakeDuck yawn.gif
did u know that =p
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I want to try the beta, I wonder how I can get my hands on it. Thats is a nearer goal since the beta is releasing sometime this year.


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lol
he is a bad manner player
and his nick is ElakeDuck yawn.gif
did u know that =p
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Who has bad manners?

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QUOTE(scrubiee @ May 19 2007, 10:57 PM)
lol
he is a bad manner player
and his nick is ElakeDuck yawn.gif
did u know that =p
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No elakeduck is different, hes also bad mannered and plays orc, this guy is korean, he plays on kalimdor. On an interview elakeduck said he idolizes him,

http://www.meetyourmakers.com/en/article/97/5.html

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i can make him say hi to u from sk forums as i have him on msn laugh.gif .

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Sry guys, tis game was not come out in October....
That is my fault...

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Just saw the ign coverage. OMG! That shot with humongous zerg swarm!!! This is excellent. No tiny population at all like war3.
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i just downloaded the official trailer...definitely loooks better than the youtube version...and you see much more details better...
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warcraft3 food limit only 100. starcraft food limit is 200.
or are they going to increase it?
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DX10 exclusive?? Say it isn't so!!
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If they want to lose the majority of their loyal playerbase they can go ahead and do it. There are many games coming that supports both DX9 & 10 that will certainly benefit if they do that.

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When asked about system requirements, the panel replied that the requirements haven't been fully finalized, but that the game will support Pixel Shader 2.0 graphics and PCs with either Windows XP or Vista.

Yes! No need to worry about dx10. smile.gif

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6171172.html?...cks%3Bstory%3B1


Added on May 19, 2007, 11:33 pmHmm, I don't like how the new siege tank looks. The red turret makes it look like it's trying to kiss you.

The new protoss units sound so cool. Waiting for movie to download, hope can see it soon. smile.gif



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The graphic i suppose should be requirement friendly... we need to remember... another reason why people loveeee blizzard is because they release the game in dual platform(win/mac) inside one disc...
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How about the requirements?Thats what i really worry.

LOL,i like your comments on the siege tank.I dont like the new siege tank because of the tank tracks got separated from the tanks body when it deploy.It looks weird.
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As of right now, Blizzard has no plans to bring StarCraft 2 to consoles. They feel the fees console manufacturers' charges are still too high, and think their games are more suited for the PC platform anyway. Though the game, currently pre-alpha, does not support DX10 right now, it hopefully will in the future. The game will be playable on both Windows XP and Vista operating systems. StarCraft 2 will release when it's ready, says Blizzard.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/790/790158p1.html

Where did the dx10 rumours spread from......
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this was released today........
no hope DLing the full video today, cuz the whole world is DLing it now, i bet korea is trying to DL as fast as possible. the servers area most likely packed.
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Ill try if possible to download and upload by tomorrow, btw what do you guys prefer, rapidshare, megaupload,megashares, mkshare or others?
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Somewhere i can use download accelerator like savefiles or send space.

Hey,Kim,long time no see.
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Just noticed the gameplay video is not on the website yet?
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If someone can explain to me how to setup or where to upload, I will upload. I already got the files from StarCraft2.com.

I will even include a high-res 1000p version of the transformers trailer 1 and 2 if you want tongue.gif


QUOTE(dos @ May 19 2007, 11:41 PM)
Just noticed the gameplay video is not on the website yet?
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Not yet, tomorrow ACT (ASEAN Common Time) it will be available (oh add to that, this factor: When will Blizzard US get up from their sleep.)

The launching of the Blizzard US site was delayed because they're sleeping during the announcement in Korea. The Blizzard Korea site was updated hours before the US site tongue.gif


You can check my YouTube account if you want to watch the gameplay trailer #1 and #2... http://www.youtube.com/Laibcoms



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There's a screen with a huge number of what i thought were zerglings but now i looked closer they look like flying insects. Is this the zergling's bomb form?
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QUOTE(dos @ May 19 2007, 11:37 PM)
From ign


Where did the dx10 rumours spread from......
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Will StarCraft II take advantage of DirectX 10? What other graphical goodies are included? The game will be compatible with DirectX 10, and we're still considering whether there will be exclusive DirectX 10 graphic effects, but the graphics engine will also be very scalable to ensure that a wide range of different systems will be capable of running StarCraft II. The new engine is also capable of rendering very large units, as well as large numbers of units on screen together. Havok physics have been integrated into the engine for added realism as well.
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I bet you dint read all the previous posts. The so call "exclusive" means some other features which only can be enabled on Dx10 Platform and it's still in consideration.


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As most of us expected, Starcraft2.

Considering thats the only one doesnt have a "sequel" wink.gif
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Can you spell "P A I N"?... heh

Dam... as usual... Blizzard has done it again with their excellent CG cinematics.

I do hope one day Blizzard does make one CG movie, can challenge FinalFantasy...heheh tongue.gif

Cheers cool.gif

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Definitions of dotard on the Web:

* an oldster in his dotage; someone whose age has impaired his intellect

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Protoss Mothership= Luv!!
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protoss mothership copy CNC3 mothership..........
CNC 3 copy protoss carrier.......
are they out of ideas!?...... doh.gif
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Oh, so those are zerglings. They look weird.And what is that worm thing hmm. Reminds me of dune. smile.gif
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Btw where is ash, i know he loves starcraft.
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ah hem ^^ hehe do i actually know you?
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sad how they assemble a marine with such cool and high tech suit, but end up getting killed in the battlefield in less then 1 minute after coming out from barrack... dam..
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Look at this pic:

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Hee hee, just a joke, dun bash me ar tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Guys go here -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylDyZEUiwBg

Then go to 3:40 mark, you'll see a Night Elf gurl dancing tongue.gif

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wargghhh ...the game looks promising ...yeeehaa!
how about diablo 3 ?
i want them all blizzard!
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 20 2007, 12:03 AM)
Look at this pic:

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Hee hee, just a joke, dun bash me ar tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Lol you want more similarities...

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Reapers: These guys look a little like Marines, but carry dual machine pistols and function differently. Since StarCraft 2 uses the same kind of tiered maps as in the original, you still need to move units up or down ramps to reach each level of the battlefield. Reapers have jump jets allowing them to hop down or up a tier, making them effective tools for exploiting weak spots in an elevated base.


Sound like Zone Troopers much?

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Colossus: Think of the recent film War of the Worlds and you'll have a good idea of how this new unit looks. Their long legs allow them to easily traverse tiers of land. Equipped are a set of dual lasers that can make quick work of smaller, poorly armored units such as Zerglings.


Can you say Annihilator Tripod?

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Mothership: Only one of these can be present on the battlefield at a time. They have three powerful abilities, the first of which is called Time Bomb. Unleashing this attack surrounds the ship in a translucent spherical field capable of stopping incoming missiles. When the field times out, the missiles drop to the ground like harmless Tic-Tacs. The second ability, called Planet Cracker, fires a battery of laser beams (the Protoss like lasers, apparently) at the ground, quickly wiping out whatever's lurking underneath the ship. This ability is particularly useful because the mothership can be ordered around while the Cracker fires, acting like a tornado through a trailer park. The final ability is Black Hole, which, as you might expect, tears a hole in the fabric of "insert nerdy science-fiction term" and actually sucks in whatever units surround it. In the demonstration we saw Blizzard trigger a black hole around about four Terran Battle Cruisers, wiping them out within a few seconds.


Mothership with Black Hole? Does the Scrin loan this stuff to the Protoss? Hahaha!

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New Ability: The Protoss will have the ability to create pylon fields anywhere on the visible map. Once the field is created, units can thereafter be constructed on the spot, meaning the Protoss can easily and rapidly create groups of units in unexpected locations.


Surveyor, Emissary, Explorer?
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Lol you want more similarities...
Sound like Zone Troopers much?
Can you say Annihilator Tripod?<----No its from Sup Com's Monkey loard
Mothership with Black Hole? Does the Scrin loan this stuff to the Protoss? Hahaha!<- Czar from Sup Com
Surveyor, Emissary, Explorer?
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the trailer and in-game videos are awesome. i wonder if battle cruiser have a hero xD

it will be fun if it can be imba too
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o my..holy cow, waited for this untill fatt mou liao. i guess it will come out the same time as 1998's starcraft, probably same date also.
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the trailer and in-game videos are awesome. i wonder if battle cruiser have a hero xD

it will be fun if it can be imba too
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you can hope that they dont introduce lvling in the game.
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you can hope that they dont introduce lvling in the game.
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WALAO..

I JUST NOTICED THIS THREAD!..

STARCRAFT is MY FAVOURITE RTS GAME OF ALL TIME!...CAN'T WAIT FOR IT'S RELEASE..

NO MORE WC3...NOW TIME FOR SC2..thumbup.gif

I missed Zealot RUSH!...or Marine Rush! biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ May 19 2007, 04:41 PM)
Finally something to repay the loyalty of all SC players after they called off the Starcraft: Ghost project.

Something to show those Dota noobs wut the real RTS is about.

OMG i miss those carriers with lots of interceptors flying around it...
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SC2 is the BEST!..To those forumer who called SC2 BODO..you are the one who are BODO! hahahahahaha

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No way they are having heros in this game and no Sota Scota this time.
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errr kerigan, samir duran, fenix are heroes arent they? duh why must u relate every post with dota? hero doesnt mean dota at all. zzzzzzz

enough of this, lots of dota loser bashing dota in sc2 thread bcoz they hav no place to do so. get a life
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SC2 Rulezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love u blizzards!! and hate u for making me waited so long!!! doh.gif
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dota is a fail mechanics of a game, a manipulation and one of the most useless mods for a game ive ever see/play, The mod is just ridiculous and idiotic.... now how's that for a life...

and if blizzard by any means doing the same shit at SC2... i will be terribly disappointed...

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Aiks, Areas now only I notice, Scrin's and Protoss got some relation and both making business to each other! (Imagine few protoss sitting in the tuition class conducted by Scrin) And Terran go buy that Zone Trooper Suit from GDI ! *cant stop laughing here....*

Anyway Areas where you got that info from? I don't find them from SC2 site....

Don't you guys notice after the Strider from Half Life 2, so many thing slike to copy it's design?

- Alien Tripod in War of the World
- The new flower-alike monster in World of Warcraft, outland.
- Annihilator Tripod from C&C3
- The giant machine in Unreal 3 (Go search for it's screenshot and you will find this unit)
- Now SC2 !



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again stop posting unrelated post, this is sc2
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What you guys think they should keep from previous game?

My list:
1) similar capability of doing rush (one egg = 2 zerglings = imba)
2) Keep Overlord, Lurker, Guardian, Hidralisk and Zerglings. Ditch everything else. throw away Ultralisk, he can't walk in between the photon cannons.
3) Keep Zealot, Dragoon (why do they..sigh...), Scarabs, Corsair, Carriers, and Arbiter!
4) BattleCruiser, Ghost, Firebats, Marines, Goliaths, Siege Tank, and Vulture (with spider mines, the winning korean strat)
5) Retain some old technology please, like burrow, lockdown, flying terran buildings (which is similar to night elf's uprooting structures, haha)

Seriously, if they can balance SC2 up and enable gameplay such as the old SC, that would be nice. the strats, the rush, the defense formation and everything an oldschool SC player would know.

Oh, i wet my pants daydreaming again.
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I wonder if the controls are still the same... Got so used to numbering squads. And wonder if it works similar to Warcraft, like that zooming /change angle thing.

I think heroes in SC won't pollute the game la. Coz heroes in SC are like normal units. They die the same way as other units, and they do not revive (remember kerrigan, raymond and those protoss high clerics? they are normal units with different colours only). Let's just hope they stay that way...

SC is the way to go! It set the standards for RTS so high that it's still number 1 until now. It's sequel is gonna rule RTS for 20 years... I hope...

Now is it going to be Protoss that rules the universe? Or Terrans going to kacau Zergs again? Or maybe Zergs team up wit Protoss to eliminate Terrans... Interesting story ahead...


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QUOTE(chengyi @ May 20 2007, 01:26 AM)
errr kerigan, samir duran, fenix are heroes arent they? duh why must u relate every post with dota? hero doesnt mean dota at all. zzzzzzz

enough of this, lots of dota loser bashing dota in sc2 thread bcoz they hav no place to do so. get a life
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Yeah but that still does not mean that they are gonna level up and carry items like Dota, and that should not be happening in a normal game.

QUOTE(Yue @ May 20 2007, 01:28 AM)
dota is a fail mechanics of a game, a manipulation and one of the most useless mods for a game ive ever see/play, The mod is just ridiculous and idiotic.... now how's that for a life...

and if blizzard by any means doing the same shit at SC2... i will be terribly disappointed...
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See another person to testify about dota.

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Aiks, Areas now only I notice, Scrin's and Protoss got some relation and both making business to each other! (Imagine few protoss sitting in the tuition class conducted by Scrin) And Terran go buy that Zone Trooper Suit from GDI ! *cant stop laughing here....*

Anyway Areas where you got that info from? I don't find them from SC2 site....

Don't you guys notice after the Strider from Half Life 2, so many thing slike to copy it's design?

- Alien Tripod in War of the World
- The new flower-alike monster in World of Warcraft, outland.
- Annihilator Tripod from C&C3
- The giant machine in Unreal 3 (Go search for it's screenshot and you will find this unit)
- Now SC2 !
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QUOTE(Notoriez @ May 20 2007, 01:19 AM)
Yup..

SC2 is the BEST!..To those forumer who called SC2 BODO..you are the one who are BODO! hahahahahaha
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ara~??

I thought the word BODO are used to describe DOTA in WC3 by... err... us??

um... but those who want to change the SC2 into BODO like WC to DOTA is indeed BODO LOL laugh.gif

Wonder how long will it be before SC2 finally arrive... 2010?? 2011 maybe?? Or perhaps when Dx10 is obsolete already laugh.gif

Gee... I'm getting bored with C&C3 edy... sweat.gif

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What you guys think they should keep from previous game?

My list:
1) similar capability of doing rush (one egg = 2 zerglings = imba)
2) Keep Overlord, Lurker, Guardian, Hidralisk and Zerglings. Ditch everything else. throw away Ultralisk, he can't walk in between the photon cannons.
3) Keep Zealot, Dragoon (why do they..sigh...), Scarabs, Corsair, Carriers, and Arbiter!
4) BattleCruiser, Ghost, Firebats, Marines, Goliaths, Siege Tank, and Vulture (with spider mines, the winning korean strat)
5) Retain some old technology please, like burrow, lockdown, flying terran buildings (which is similar to night elf's uprooting structures, haha)

Seriously, if they can balance SC2 up and enable gameplay such as the old SC, that would be nice. the strats, the rush, the defense formation and everything an oldschool SC player would know.

Oh, i wet my pants daydreaming again.
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Nay Id say they have to adapt to the new 3d environment now its not like last time 2-d RTS.

QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ May 20 2007, 01:34 AM)
I wonder if the controls are still the same... Got so used to numbering squads.  And wonder if it works similar to Warcraft, like that zooming /change angle thing.

I think heroes in SC won't pollute the game la. Coz heroes in SC are like normal units. They die the same way as other units, and they do not revive (remember kerrigan, raymond and those protoss high clerics? they are normal units with different colours only). Let's just hope they stay that way...

SC is the way to go! It set the standards for RTS so high that it's still number 1 until now. It's sequel is gonna rule RTS for 20 years... I hope...

Now is it going to be Protoss that rules the universe? Or Terrans going to kacau Zergs again? Or maybe Zergs team up wit Protoss to eliminate Terrans... Interesting story ahead...
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Yeah just keep the characters in the campaign.

I thought they would have a new race this time.
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QUOTE(chengyi @ May 20 2007, 01:31 AM)
again stop posting unrelated post, this is sc2
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From your posts, I bet you play dota.
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LOL... still on topic arr?? LOL laugh.gif
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Blizzard says they are going to retain the 3 races and nothing else. That means the triangle war continues! Are the races still balanced this time? We shall see...

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QUOTE(scrubiee @ May 19 2007, 10:28 PM)
come come let me give u my opinion about why gosus or so called gosus from dawn of war dark crusade changed to cnc3 and not star craft or warcraft 3.. the main reason is because cnc3 is newest among all these 3.. if u ask me alot of people will move to starcraft 2 if cnc 3 is not in wcg.. this is because star craft and warcraft are much older and whats the point in joinin games where people have much more experience then you do unless you are really talented and u join really good clan for training and tips.. correct me if im wrong  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Actually, that's what im trying to say. They play CNC3 because their chances to win is higher. They cant play SC and WC which is older and have 10x more player base than any other games. SC and WC3 is very competitive. Every year we'll hear new pro coming to the scene. For those quite new in WC3,
"Long time ago before the age of sky and far bfore the reign of orc Emperor Grubby, a Human called Insomnia rule this world".
Ok enough joke, what im trying to say is dont compare the competitive WC3 scene with Malaysian WC3 scene where Paulyan won wcg 5 yr straight.

There's player called kenshin.WERRA who quits WC3 and play SC because he wants challenge.This is true GOSU. rclxms.gif

Why SC gosus are different from other games gosus?
First, all 10++ members of 7++ teams in starleague are professional. What i mean by professional is they play for food. They play 10++ hours per day to achieve perfection(a genius cant excecute his strat without skill). They dont win they dont eat. They gave up other responsibilities in their life(time, college) to become a professional gamer.

Ok, that's for those who play in Starleague. But these days there are new rule which says you cant compete in Starleague if you're not a progamer. So now progamer is a given title. So even if they play for food they're still not progamer without recognition and Starleague is a no. In korea there are lots of these progamer without recognition. rclxub.gif Ppl said to qualify in Korean WCG qualifier is harder than winning WCG grand final itself.

Let say Dawn of War for example, how many top 30 ladder player are progamer?I think most of them are hardcore player that plays for fun and happens to be good at it.

Thats why i said other RTS besides SC and WC3 dont have any gosu. They cant set a standard for their game like SC and WC3 pro did. In my opinion its not blizzard that made SC such a perfect game. Its the gosus that create the balance. Blizzard just implement it with every patch.

QUOTE(scrubiee @ May 19 2007, 10:28 PM)
come come let me give u my opinion about why gosus or so called gosus from dawn of war dark crusade changed to cnc3 and not star craft or warcraft 3.. the main reason is because cnc3 is newest among all these 3.. if u ask me alot of people will move to starcraft 2 if cnc 3 is not in wcg.. this is because star craft and warcraft are much older and whats the point in joinin games where people have much more experience then you do unless you are really talented and u join really good clan for training and tips.. correct me if im wrong  icon_rolleyes.gif
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TBH im not so sure wether most of those koreans will go SC2 or they will remain with SC. SC2 can become the next CS:source you know.
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TBH im not so sure wether most of those koreans will go SC2 or they will remain with  SC. SC2 can become the next CS:source you know.
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I remember one of our dear forummers seem to object the idea of SC2... probably out of fear that it would become the next CS:Source like you said..

Hopefuly it won't. I had enough of games that is only great at the beginning. The rest of it's expansion / sequel spoils the original games...
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 20 2007, 01:31 AM)
Anyway Areas where you got that info from? I don't find them from SC2 site....
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Zerglings: Yes, we know, the Zerglings aren't new, but they do get a new ability in StarCraft 2. Each one of these little monsters can be ordered to enter a brief transition state, mutating into suicidal bombs. In the bomb state, Zerglings roll across the landscape and take on a greenish hue, and prove particularly deadly.

Terran

Reapers: These guys look a little like Marines, but carry dual machine pistols and function differently. Since StarCraft 2 uses the same kind of tiered maps as in the original, you still need to move units up or down ramps to reach each level of the battlefield. Reapers have jump jets allowing them to hop down or up a tier, making them effective tools for exploiting weak spots in an elevated base.

Protoss

Zealot: Right, Zealots aren't new, but their charge ability is. Blizzard wanted to make the psi-blade wielders more effective at chasing down fleeing foes, or quickly closing in on ranged attackers. The charge allows them to rapidly advance a short distance, and works as a passive ability.

Immortal: This unit activates a near impenetrable shield when under heavy arms fire. During the demonstration at WWI, Blizzard showed how Terran siege tanks were nearly powerless against Immortals, since their heavy tank blasts activated the shields. As a contrast, Terran Reapers' small arms fire made quick work of these guys.

Colossus: Think of the recent film War of the Worlds and you'll have a good idea of how this new unit looks. Their long legs allow them to easily traverse tiers of land. Equipped are a set of dual lasers that can make quick work of smaller, poorly armored units such as Zerglings.

Stalker: A quadripedal unit that can blink, or teleport, forward a short distance. From the WWI demonstration, there seems to be a rather quick cooldown on this ability.

Pheonix: New flying unit, capable of overcharging its weapons to unleash a barrage of projectile volleys. The demonstration showed four of them simultaneously initiate this ability, ravaging a swarm of Zerg Mutalisks. Players need to be careful when engaging the overcharge, as the Pheonix cannot attack or move for several seconds after performing it. Go, death blossom, go.

Warp Ray: Another new flying unit. These guys blast a continuous laser that increases in damage output the longer it fires. We saw a group of these things take out a Terran Battle Cruiser pretty rapidly. Though they're effective against heavily armored foes, they can still get shredded by small arms fire, like that from Terran Marines.

Mothership: Only one of these can be present on the battlefield at a time. They have three powerful abilities, the first of which is called Time Bomb. Unleashing this attack surrounds the ship in a translucent spherical field capable of stopping incoming missiles. When the field times out, the missiles drop to the ground like harmless Tic-Tacs. The second ability, called Planet Cracker, fires a battery of laser beams (the Protoss like lasers, apparently) at the ground, quickly wiping out whatever's lurking underneath the ship. This ability is particularly useful because the mothership can be ordered around while the Cracker fires, acting like a tornado through a trailer park. The final ability is Black Hole, which, as you might expect, tears a hole in the fabric of "insert nerdy science-fiction term" and actually sucks in whatever units surround it. In the demonstration we saw Blizzard trigger a black hole around about four Terran Battle Cruisers, wiping them out within a few seconds.

New Ability: The Protoss will have the ability to create pylon fields anywhere on the visible map. Once the field is created, units can thereafter be constructed on the spot, meaning the Protoss can easily and rapidly create groups of units in unexpected locations.

Source: StarCraft 2's New Units


Next is the all the info from the Starcraft 2 Discussion Panel.

1. The Game is only for PC/Macs.

2. Development started after Warcraft 3:TFT was completed in 2003. Its already has a playable multiplayer component with all the 3 factions in it.

3. The units balance are still a work in progress.

4. Improved B.Net service, multiplayer is being focused on now with balance testing done by pro gamers. More people will be invited to the test once they hit beta.

5. Singleplayer development will begin later and will feature characters such as Kerrigan, Jim Raynor and Zeratul.

6. The game will have multiple speed settings similar to Warcraft 3.

7. Map editor will be released with the game.

8. The game will support both Xp & Vista. No plans for DX10 atm.

9. It will be released 'when its ready'

Source: StarCraft 2 Panel Discussions & Q&A session details Starcraft II

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Wow they already spent 4 years for this game. Full of confident!

BTW, I hope they do imprive mroe for the terrain details. It's a bit cartoonish for me. BUt the "background" of the map is very nice, you can see the planets behind it.
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IGN has a page that's constantly updated by on-site reporters.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/788/788627p1.html

Why not we just take this SC2 announcement with a normal attitude and wait for the game to be released? The game's not even released my friends...

Only thing we can do is start dreaming to pwn dudes in the game and using all those new abilities... Ahh.. Finally dragoons, I mean Immortals, that are immune to tanks...
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 20 2007, 02:13 AM)
Wow they already spent 4 years for this game. Full of confident!

BTW, I hope they do imprive mroe for the terrain details. It's a bit cartoonish for me. BUt the "background" of the map is very nice, you can see the planets behind it.
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Hm.. they might be able to release this game sooner than expected.. though I don't hope it to be really that sooner... dun wan this game to be unoptimized and inbalance...
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 20 2007, 02:13 AM)
Wow they already spent 4 years for this game. Full of confident!

BTW, I hope they do imprive mroe for the terrain details. It's a bit cartoonish for me. BUt the "background" of the map is very nice, you can see the planets behind it.
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Hope those 4 years doesn't dissapoints us as SC lovers..

Hate those DOTA players bashing SC2...shakehead.gif
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Oh yea, just confirmed that SC2 will have that zooming and angle changing thing...
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Blizzard says they are going to retain the 3 races and nothing else. That means the triangle war continues! Are the races still balanced this time? We shall see...
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Nowonder there is no new race Ive got a feeling that its balancing issue.

QUOTE(RtP|DEV @ May 20 2007, 02:03 AM)
Actually, that's what im trying to say. They play CNC3 because their chances to win is higher. They cant play SC and WC which is older and have 10x more player base than any other games. SC and WC3 is very competitive. Every year we'll hear new pro coming to the scene. For those quite new in WC3,
"Long time ago before the age of sky and far bfore the reign of orc Emperor Grubby, a Human called Insomnia rule this world".
Ok enough joke, what im trying to say is dont compare the competitive WC3 scene with Malaysian WC3 scene where Paulyan won wcg 5 yr straight.

There's player called kenshin.WERRA who quits WC3 and play SC because he wants challenge.This is true GOSU. rclxms.gif

Why SC gosus are different from other games gosus?
First, all 10++ members of 7++ teams in starleague are professional. What i mean by professional is they play for food. They play 10++ hours per day to achieve perfection(a genius cant excecute his strat  without skill). They dont win they dont eat. They gave up other responsibilities in their life(time, college) to become a professional gamer.

Ok, that's for those who play in Starleague. But these days there are new rule which says you cant compete in Starleague if you're not a progamer. So now progamer is a given title. So even if they play for food they're still not progamer without recognition and Starleague is a no. In korea there are lots of these progamer without recognition. rclxub.gif Ppl said to qualify in Korean WCG qualifier is harder than winning WCG grand final itself.

Let say Dawn of War for example, how many top 30 ladder player are progamer?I think most of them are hardcore player that plays for fun and happens to be good at it.

Thats why i said other RTS besides SC and WC3 dont have any gosu. They cant set a standard for their game like SC and WC3 pro did. In my opinion its not blizzard that made SC such a perfect game. Its the gosus that create the balance. Blizzard just implement it with every patch.
TBH im not so sure wether most of those koreans will go SC2 or they will remain with  SC. SC2 can become the next CS:source you know.
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If you say it that way then yes, there is no other game that have enough competitiveness than WC and SC.

I think it would be in another category for progamming but I think SC would still be korean's top priority.


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QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ May 20 2007, 02:07 AM)
I remember one of our dear forummers seem to object the idea of SC2... probably out of fear that it would become the next CS:Source like you said..

Hopefuly it won't. I had enough of games that is only great at the beginning. The rest of it's expansion / sequel spoils the original games...
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This thought came across my mind but being koreans and their support for Blizzard would it be another WC3 where SC2 is categorised differently? Guess we'll never know till SC2 goes gold.

QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ May 20 2007, 02:17 AM)
Hm.. they might be able to release this game sooner than expected.. though I don't hope it to be really that sooner... dun wan this game to be unoptimized and inbalance...
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I think for the balancing issues they will need a few patches.

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ May 20 2007, 02:00 AM)
Blizzard says they are going to retain the 3 races and nothing else. That means the triangle war continues! Are the races still balanced this time? We shall see...
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I was hoping for at least the zerg/protoss hybrid faction or Xel'Naga to be included. I guess Blizzard could still surprise us down the road.

QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ May 20 2007, 02:19 AM)
Oh yea, just confirmed that SC2 will have that zooming and angle changing thing...
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That ability is standard in all 3D RTS games.

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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 20 2007, 01:31 AM)
Aiks, Areas now only I notice, Scrin's and Protoss got some relation and both making business to each other! (Imagine few protoss sitting in the tuition class conducted by Scrin) And Terran go buy that Zone Trooper Suit from GDI ! *cant stop laughing here....*

Anyway Areas where you got that info from? I don't find them from SC2 site....

Don't you guys notice after the Strider from Half Life 2, so many thing slike to copy it's design?

- Alien Tripod in War of the World
- The new flower-alike monster in World of Warcraft, outland.
- Annihilator Tripod from C&C3
- The giant machine in Unreal 3 (Go search for it's screenshot and you will find this unit)
- Now SC2 !
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doh.gif wat a useless and stupid post.

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QUOTE(Araes @ May 20 2007, 02:32 AM)
I was hoping for at least the zerg/protoss hybrid faction or Xel'Naga to be included. I guess Blizzard could still surprise us down the road.
That ability is standard in all 3D RTS games.
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I guess they just want the game to be balanced thats why they did not introduce those races.

I think they should be some race like the naga in W3:TFT where they are there but unplayable in bnet

For W3 you cant really turn your view angle much, its kinda prety stuck.
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QUOTE(RtP|DEV @ May 20 2007, 02:03 AM)
Actually, that's what im trying to say. They play CNC3 because their chances to win is higher. They cant play SC and WC which is older and have 10x more player base than any other games. SC and WC3 is very competitive. Every year we'll hear new pro coming to the scene. For those quite new in WC3,
"Long time ago before the age of sky and far bfore the reign of orc Emperor Grubby, a Human called Insomnia rule this world".
Ok enough joke, what im trying to say is dont compare the competitive WC3 scene with Malaysian WC3 scene where Paulyan won wcg 5 yr straight.

There's player called kenshin.WERRA who quits WC3 and play SC because he wants challenge.This is true GOSU. rclxms.gif

Why SC gosus are different from other games gosus?
First, all 10++ members of 7++ teams in starleague are professional. What i mean by professional is they play for food. They play 10++ hours per day to achieve perfection(a genius cant excecute his strat  without skill). They dont win they dont eat. They gave up other responsibilities in their life(time, college) to become a professional gamer.

Ok, that's for those who play in Starleague. But these days there are new rule which says you cant compete in Starleague if you're not a progamer. So now progamer is a given title. So even if they play for food they're still not progamer without recognition and Starleague is a no. In korea there are lots of these progamer without recognition. rclxub.gif Ppl said to qualify in Korean WCG qualifier is harder than winning WCG grand final itself.

Let say Dawn of War for example, how many top 30 ladder player are progamer?I think most of them are hardcore player that plays for fun and happens to be good at it.

Thats why i said other RTS besides SC and WC3 dont have any gosu. They cant set a standard for their game like SC and WC3 pro did. In my opinion its not blizzard that made SC such a perfect game. Its the gosus that create the balance. Blizzard just implement it with every patch.
TBH im not so sure wether most of those koreans will go SC2 or they will remain with  SC. SC2 can become the next CS:source you know.
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I beg to differ on your ideas of why SC and WC3 are the only games that have pro-gamers.......it dont mean that a game with a less fan base dont necessarily have pro gamers.......if you would to take your best gamer in SC and pit it with a pro-gamer from DOW, the SC pro-gamer will definately lose...he may be able to provide some kind of battle but wouldnt be enough to outbeat the pro in DOW.

Each game, which comprises of more than 100 gamers worldwide on its ladder is bound to have a game dedicated to that game perfecting the fighting style of that game.........

i believe your scale of judgement on that SC and WC3 are the ones that have excellent pro-gamers is wrong......each game has its pro's but they may not been represented as well as SC and WC3. thats all.

Every person given the opportunity will rise........same goes to games.......if the fan base to the other games are as big as SC and WC3, then you wouldnt be able to say the difference........

Lets hope SC2 holds up to the expectations of its fans and not give false hope like C&C3 did to some of its fans......
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ May 20 2007, 02:35 AM)
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well I for one just loved CnC 3. It's just awesome. SC2? Also nice.
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Argh can't wait, my hand is itchy! Hope it wouldn't take long and to compete it at WCG arena is priceless.
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superb game... just saw the unit explanation video and it looked awesome... cant wait for the game to be released
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ May 20 2007, 03:37 AM)
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edwin3210,

Boy stop being retard here. You are ultimately spamming this thread. No matter how I still talk something relate to SC2, but you, simply fill in some completely pointless message here. Anyway posting here will not increase your post count. Even it does it wil not makes you looks more handsome in your real life.
(Look at the way you spam, even spam also should spam with some creativity... you are really retard)

*CUT !!!!!*

Back to SC2, no more off topic.

fujkenasai,

I just about to post the similiar idea here! Naga is the best example and idea here. And the so call "4th race" will be great if they are superior Protoss_Zerg hybrid. But it will not be an "official race" which available on multiplayer".

And also, remember the Black Temple in WoW Burning Crusade? Blizzard might wants to save the "4th Race" for SC2 expansion pack? thumbup.gif
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*just watched the CGI video*
so thats why it took so long to create a marine...
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 20 2007, 04:05 AM)
edwin3210,

Boy stop being retard here. You are ultimately spamming this thread. No matter how I still talk something relate to SC2, but you, simply fill in some completely pointless message here. Anyway posting here will not increase your post count. Even it does it wil not makes you looks more handsome in your real life.
(Look at the way you spam, even spam also should spam with some creativity... you are really retard)

*CUT !!!!!*

Back to SC2, no more off topic.

fujkenasai,

I just about to post the similiar idea here! Naga is the best example and idea here. And the so call "4th race" will be great if they are superior Protoss_Zerg hybrid. But it will not be an "official race" which available on multiplayer".

And also, remember the Black Temple in WoW Burning Crusade? Blizzard might wants to save the "4th Race" for SC2 expansion pack?  thumbup.gif
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Boy stop being retard here. You are ultimately spamming this thread. No matter how I still talk something relate to SC2, but you, simply fill in some completely pointless message here. Anyway posting here will not increase your post count. Even it does it wil not makes you looks more handsome in your real life.
(Look at the way you spam, even spam also should spam with some creativity... you are really retard)

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Almost 24 hours since the inception of this thread, I have concluded that:
Blizzard to Malaysians is pretty much how Bungie is to Xbox gamers. They can do no wrong in "our" eyes. I mean, Company of Heroes and C&C 3 BARELY registered on the local scene here.


Ignoring most of the discussions here ("OMG, you can zoom and rotate the camera!!!"), the anti DotA bashing has got to stop as its ruining an otherwise good thread.

DotA is NOT an RTS... RTS players have nothing to fear from what is essentially "Diablo for noobs". Stop b****ing already. Just dismiss them as wannabes and be done with it. Stop flogging the dead horse.

That being said, the whole "I hope there are no heroes in SC 2" talks would stop being sounding so bloody pompous because of the DotA influence. Dawn of War has them, C&C has had them for ages (You think Tanya comes of a conveyor belt?). Don't write off the concept just because one company screwed up the implementation.

The hero system in Warcraft 3 was good... Until you realized it was also used in multiplayer.

Face it, heroes in Starcraft were pretty much useless. All they had were double stats from the basic units and they were essentially useless as losing them= losing the game. So, most of the time they became base babysitters. The only SC2 hero worth using was Kerrigan and a hero Battlecruiser (Coz the laser kicked ass)

The Altar alone from WC3 made heroes worth using but unfortunately, the entire game revolved around them which turned "War"craft into "Diablo"craft.



As for impressions of the game, I haven't seen the videos yet, so nothing much to say aside from the screenshots (Which look like a more mature take on the Warcraft 3 style)... I'll wait until they announce a closed public beta before passing judgment. At that point, the graphics would be nailed down already leaving only the gameplay to be tested.

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yeah..the dota-bashing and hero-trauma..thats why god needs to send superheroes to this thread.

anyways, the gameplay videos are great. not disappointing at all after the long wait. hopefully the game will not use cutting edge specs like most of their games before.
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ May 20 2007, 04:46 AM)
Dawn of War has them, C&C has had them for ages (You think Tanya comes of a conveyor belt?). Don't write off the concept just because one company screwed up the implementation.
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I hope you didnt mean DOW cause the hero implementation in DOW was good and didnt alter the gameplay of the game but rather enhance it.........heroes function the way they should in DOW..........wont continue this here cause this thread is meant for SC2..........just out of curiosity.....could i know which company are you talking about.....
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Probably he means Blizzard heroes who can carry items and have inventory? Of all the games I played, the only RTS I came across where the heroes have inventory is WC3.

edit: Just wanna add that you have to level up the heroes as well to use them more effectively smile.gif You have to actually go creeping before you attack your opponent.

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OMG, My fav game has come to II ? Can't wait for it.. don't the galaxy is conquered by Zerg?
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Holy shit I wonder hows the storyline will turned out to be , Kerrigan thumbup.gif

Zerg Banzai! tongue.gif I think Blizzard has an evil mind, ever wonder why all those baddies are more powderful most of the time , Zerg > Terran/Protoss , Undead > Night Elf,Human,Orc

Currently only Protoss units are revealed? nice man thumbup.gif


Added on May 20, 2007, 8:23 amOMFG 2nd video, G-G ROFL

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Is it me or is the new iteration of SC a little to sanitized. I mean check out the gameplay screenshots...everything looks sooo clean and colorful...It looks almost like the original SC except in 3D....U kinda think they'd get on with the times and offer us something more realistic with more aging look to it...ala...star wars. Not the best use of 3D if u'd ask me....but then again maybe thats the style they want to follow.

Also, first impression from seeing the screenies and the trailer....SC2 whole la lot reminds me of SC....not to say the original was not good, its just that i hope blizzard doesnt stay toooo true the original that it becomes basically a clone of the original except maybe with soup-up graphics. I'd like to see some significant changes to the game. Overall, I found myself not as excited as i should have been when I first set me eyes on the screenies and trailers. Hopefully though things will change as it progresses...i really want it to work...
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QUOTE(s[H]sIkuA @ May 20 2007, 08:06 AM)
Holy shit I wonder hows the storyline will turned out to be , Kerrigan thumbup.gif

Zerg Banzai! tongue.gif I think Blizzard has an evil mind, ever wonder why all those baddies are more powderful most of the time , Zerg > Terran/Protoss , Undead > Night Elf,Human,Orc

Currently only Protoss units are revealed? nice man thumbup.gif


Added on May 20, 2007, 8:23 amOMFG 2nd video, G-G ROFL
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Starcraft : Broodwar = Zerg conquered all
Warcraft III : Frozen Throne = Undead conquered all

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QUOTE(used2bcow @ May 20 2007, 09:35 AM)
Is it me or is the new iteration of SC a little to sanitized. I mean check out the gameplay screenshots...everything looks sooo clean and colorful...It looks almost like the original SC except in 3D....U kinda think they'd get on with the times and offer us something more realistic with more aging look to it...ala...star wars. Not the best use of 3D if u'd ask me....but then again maybe thats the style they want to follow.

Also, first impression from seeing the screenies and the trailer....SC2 whole la lot reminds me of SC....not to say the original was not good, its just that i hope blizzard doesnt stay toooo true the original that it becomes basically a clone of the original except maybe with soup-up graphics. I'd like to see some significant changes to the game. Overall, I found myself not as excited as i should have been when I first set me eyes on the screenies and trailers. Hopefully though things will change as it progresses...i really want it to work...
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I am so disappointed that its Starcraft 2.....I was hopping it would be DotA 2

Blizzard don't care about DotA anymore...

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QUOTE(TeckPeow @ May 20 2007, 09:43 AM)
I am so disappointed that its Starcraft 2.....I was hopping it would be DotA 2

Blizzard don't care about DotA anymore...

*Sob* *Sob*
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Why would Blizzard care about DotA? DotA is just a map under warcraft III. If wan DotA 2, you should ask IceFrog =/
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after watch the trailer..the armor suit is really increadible...i wander why behind the head got 2 things like aircraft turbine heat like..look crazy this suit...
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QUOTE(TeckPeow @ May 20 2007, 09:43 AM)
I am so disappointed that its Starcraft 2.....I was hopping it would be DotA 2

Blizzard don't care about DotA anymore...

*Sob* *Sob*
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DotA was never their game. They don't earn a single dime from it.

People just buy pirated WC3 or download a bootleg copy, then download the freeware DotA... no money for Blizzard. Unless they support it on Battle.Net, which I haven't bothered checking... I dont like DotA, it killed WC3 RTS. Just like how I hate Counter-Strike, for killing REAL FPS.


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QUOTE(TeckPeow @ May 20 2007, 09:43 AM)
I am so disappointed that its Starcraft 2.....I was hopping it would be DotA 2

Blizzard don't care about DotA anymore...

*Sob* *Sob*
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1st Blizzard not the DotA maker. (DotA just a map that under Warcraft3 making by Warcraft3 fans)

2nd U hopping for DotA 2, but i though u alrdy playing DotA 6 (DotA version 6) sweat.gif

3rd now u only can hope for Starcraft fans will make a map same like DotA in StarCraft 2

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QUOTE(xeonsam @ May 20 2007, 10:33 AM)
3rd now u only can hope for Starcraft fans will make a map same like DotA in StarCraft 2
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QUOTE(xeonsam @ May 20 2007, 10:33 AM)

3rd now u only can hope for Starcraft fans will make a map same like DotA in StarCraft 2
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Hold the phone, I don't recall reading in any of the releases that SC2 would have A hero system if any. So seeing as there ain't gonna be no damned hero system, there ain't gonna be no DoTA, HUZZAH!
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after watch the trailer..the armor suit is really increadible...i wander why behind the head got 2 things like aircraft turbine heat like..look crazy this suit...
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wat the.. the siege tank did so little damage to the immortal.......

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QUOTE(Laibeus Lord @ May 20 2007, 09:57 AM)
DotA was never their game.  They don't earn a single dime from it.

People just buy pirated WC3 or download a bootleg copy, then download the freeware DotA... no money for Blizzard.  Unless they support it on Battle.Net, which I haven't bothered checking... I dont like DotA, it killed WC3 RTS.  Just like how I hate Counter-Strike, for killing REAL FPS.[I][U]
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Immortal shield is active upon receiving heavy damage but can be penetrated by low/weak damage material... so immortal were truly design to counter a heavy siege tank attack
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I think blizzard try to make SC2 as similiar to SC as much as possible in terms of gameplay as well as the graphics . Din notice any outstanding graphic in the gameplay screenshot,only can see its changed from 2D to 3D~maybe the cinematic in game might look impressive ^^
With this way,more players can enjoy SC2 even with their not-so-advanced-computer and the 1st series player wouldnt stick to SC as there's no major change in game.Blizzard attract more players and earn more in this way brows.gif
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QUOTE(akiraceo @ May 20 2007, 10:40 AM)
Starcraft fans wont go make that map, Dota fans will.  whistling.gif
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er.....Dota fans is actually Warcraft fans, if they going make DotA in Starcraft then they also known as SC fans brows.gif

QUOTE(SetaNoriyasu @ May 20 2007, 10:44 AM)
Hold the phone, I don't recall reading in any of the releases that SC2 would have A hero system if any. So seeing as there ain't gonna be no damned hero system, there ain't gonna be no DoTA, HUZZAH!
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who know? most information in SC2 not yet announce, but i'm sure SC2 will have hero since SC also had, just hope that they have a hero system like WC3 or more advance biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ May 20 2007, 04:46 AM)
Almost 24 hours since the inception of this thread, I have concluded that:
Blizzard to Malaysians is pretty much how Bungie is to Xbox gamers. They can do no wrong in "our" eyes. I mean, Company of Heroes and C&C 3 BARELY registered on the local scene here.
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It's a sad fact but true. COH had a less of an impact here compared to C&C3.


Anyway got some new(old) videos.

Starcraft II - Epic Battle Gameplay - QT

Starcraft II - Epic Battle Gameplay - WMV

Starcraft II - Protoss Mothership - QT

Starcraft II - Protoss Mothership - WMV

Starcraft II - Terran Battle Cruiser Gameplay - QT

Starcraft II - Terran Battle Cruiser Gameplay - WMV

Starcraft II - Immortal Gameplay - QT

Starcraft II - Immortal Gameplay - WMV

Starcraft II - Zerg Gameplay - QT

Starcraft II - Zerg Gameplay - WMV

Starcraft II - Artwork Trailer - QT

Starcraft II - Artwork Trailer - WMV

Starcraft II - Phoenix Gameplay - QT

Starcraft II - Phoenix Gameplay - WMV

Starcraft II - Terran Reapers Gameplay - QT

Starcraft II - Terran Reapers Gameplay - WMV

Starcraft II - Immortal VS The Siege Tank Gameplay - QT

Starcraft II - Immortal VS The Siege Tank Gameplay - WMV

Starcraft II - Zealot Gameplay - QT

Starcraft II - Zealot Gameplay - WMV
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 20 2007, 04:05 AM)
edwin3210,

Boy stop being retard here. You are ultimately spamming this thread. No matter how I still talk something relate to SC2, but you, simply fill in some completely pointless message here. Anyway posting here will not increase your post count. Even it does it wil not makes you looks more handsome in your real life.
(Look at the way you spam, even spam also should spam with some creativity... you are really retard)

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Back to SC2, no more off topic.

fujkenasai,

I just about to post the similiar idea here! Naga is the best example and idea here. And the so call "4th race" will be great if they are superior Protoss_Zerg hybrid. But it will not be an "official race" which available on multiplayer".

And also, remember the Black Temple in WoW Burning Crusade? Blizzard might wants to save the "4th Race" for SC2 expansion pack?  thumbup.gif
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For the balance issues I still think and hope they will not. The extra races should be kept in the campaign and for the story line and not on Bnet.

QUOTE(TeckPeow @ May 20 2007, 09:43 AM)
I am so disappointed that its Starcraft 2.....I was hopping it would be DotA 2

Blizzard don't care about DotA anymore...

*Sob* *Sob*
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See with dotards like these in this thread how can you guys dun have a dotard bassing session?

QUOTE(Laibeus Lord @ May 20 2007, 09:57 AM)
DotA was never their game.  They don't earn a single dime from it.

People just buy pirated WC3 or download a bootleg copy, then download the freeware DotA... no money for Blizzard.  Unless they support it on Battle.Net, which I haven't bothered checking... I dont like DotA, it killed WC3 RTS.  Just like how I hate Counter-Strike, for killing REAL FPS.
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I guess lots of W3 fans/ players just hated that.

QUOTE(xeonsam @ May 20 2007, 10:33 AM)
1st Blizzard not the DotA maker. (DotA just a map that under Warcraft3 making by Warcraft3 fans)

2nd U hopping for DotA 2, but i though u alrdy playing DotA 6 (DotA version 6) sweat.gif

3rd now u only can hope for Starcraft fans will make a map same like DotA in StarCraft 2
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SC2 cant support a dota play as it will not have lvling up and items in the game.

QUOTE(NicJolin @ May 20 2007, 10:58 AM)
I think blizzard try to make SC2 as similiar to SC as much as possible in terms of gameplay as well as the graphics . Din notice any outstanding graphic in the gameplay screenshot,only can see its changed from 2D to 3D~maybe the cinematic in game might look impressive ^^
With this way,more players can enjoy SC2 even with their not-so-advanced-computer and the 1st series player wouldnt stick to SC as there's no major change in game.Blizzard attract more players and earn more in this way  brows.gif
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I guess Blizzard has always catered for a larger fan based and not so much on PC powered gamers, thats why all its pasts games have been so sucessfull.

QUOTE(xeonsam @ May 20 2007, 11:03 AM)
er.....Dota fans is actually Warcraft fans, if they going make DotA in Starcraft then they also known as SC fans brows.gif
who know? most information in SC2 not yet announce, but i'm sure SC2 will have hero since SC also had, just hope that they have a hero system like WC3 or more advance biggrin.gif
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Dream on dude Dota can just stay and DIE in WC3.
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Dont you guys notice, this time SC2 has a very advance shadow effect. Usually most of the RTS game, the unit only relfect shadow on the gronud. But this one, the unit even got shadow by it's own object on itself! Go look at the unit detals in official SC2 website, look at the dragoon!
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dun blame the DOTA game, its innocent, blame its player shakehead.gif my friends and i are dota players and we still play other game
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Trivia: Do you know that the Protoss Dragoon unit is now gone?

The Dragoon centre was infested by the Zergs during the invasion of Planet Aiur and they never had any other building like that anywhere. The Dragoons that were left are the last of the unit.

The Protoss then came up with a great plan, they enhanced the Dragoon unit so greatly, they were named "Immortal", but with a price, they are weaker with small armaments, but is strong against heavy artillery.

Immortals are best used against the Terran Siege Tanks.



Trivia: With the Protoss Dragoon gone forever, the exiled Dark Templars though of a brilliant idea. Being an exiled Protoss because of their beliefs, and the (Light) Protoss suffering a loss from the Zerg infestation, they developed a new unit that will replace the lost Dragoon - the Dark Protoss Stalker.



Extra Trivia: Do you know that the infamous Protoss Reaver is now gone? How about the popular Protoss Carrier? Blizzard said, being Americans themselves, they want to incapacitate the Koreans using too much of the Reaver and the Carrier... okay, just kidding... no official word yet about the Protoss Reaver and Protoss Carrier tongue.gif



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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 20 2007, 11:28 AM)
Dont you guys notice, this time SC2 has a very advance shadow effect. Usually most of the RTS game, the unit only relfect shadow on the gronud. But this one, the unit even got shadow by it's own object on itself! Go look at the unit detals in official SC2 website, look at the dragoon!
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i can't wait to know how the story goes. what is the fate of the terran UED after kerrigan destroyed their toy overmind and crush their base. and the same goes to protoss, who fled after failling to win over kerrigan though they had joined forces with UED.
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QUOTE(jacklsw86 @ May 20 2007, 11:34 AM)
i can't wait to know how the story goes. what is the fate of the terran UED after kerrigan destroyed their toy overmind and crush their base. and the same goes to protoss, who fled after failling to win over kerrigan though they had joined forces with UED.
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The UED is very well alive. They don't belong to the Koprulu Sector (K-Sector), the UED's homebase is Planet Earth itself, and they have occupied a great deal of the sector where Earth is located.

Kerrigan's Zerg, the Overmind Zerg, the (Light) Protoss, the Dark Protoss, and the K-Sector Humans all have no idea where Earth is located, so it is impossible for anyone of them to find and attack Planet Earth.

Regardless, the sector of Earth (for simplicity's sake let's call it the E-Sector for Earth Sector), is heavily defended for sure, since the UPL (predecessor of UED) watched over the K-Sector Humans for a long-time, and they sure prepared themselves against the possible onslaught of the Zerg and Protoss races to Earth.

We haven't seen what the UED is capable of, one thing we know, the UED is superior than the K-Sector Humans, and they only sent a small regiment of the UED force to the K-Sector, more like a "scout" regiment only, "testing" themselves and advance reconnaissance.

UED will be back, but they have to unite all the Human factions in the K-Sector first or it will be the fall of the Human race, at least in the K-Sector.


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Looks like I'm going to have to brush up on my SC knowledge again.
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QUOTE(jacklsw86 @ May 20 2007, 11:34 AM)
i can't wait to know how the story goes. what is the fate of the terran UED after kerrigan destroyed their toy overmind and crush their base. and the same goes to protoss, who fled after failling to win over kerrigan though they had joined forces with UED.
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Actually, I thought Raynor's splinter faction teamed up with the Protoss. He and Fenix(Dragoon) became really good friends.
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1st trailer updated, 69.4 meg.

Is it working?

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New StarCraft Units with Video and Explanation from the GameDevs

GameDevs explaining the New Units in SC2:
StarCraft II - Gameplay Explanation Video - Part 1 of 3 -> http://youtube.com/watch?v=B1KnmnFxHoE
StarCraft II - Gameplay Explanation Video - Part 2 of 3 -> http://youtube.com/watch?v=F1RxXko-AnM
StarCraft II - Gameplay Explanation Video - Part 3 of 3 -> http://youtube.com/watch?v=050akGtHDM4

Actual Game Footages of StarCraft II
StarCraft II - Gameplay Video - Part 1 of 4 (actual game footage) -> http://youtube.com/watch?v=ylDyZEUiwBg
StarCraft II - Gameplay Video - Part 4 of 4 (actual game footage) -> http://youtube.com/watch?v=bXpLQUVy6rU


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:: StarCraft II Articles ::
StarCraft II - GameDev Explaining the New Units
StarCraft II - Press Release
StarCraft II - Official Details
StarCraft 2 Screenshots
StarCraft 2 Video Trailer
It is Official: Next Big Game of Blizzard - StarCraft 2


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QUOTE(Hunt @ May 20 2007, 06:30 AM)
I hope you didnt mean DOW cause the hero implementation in DOW was good and didnt alter the gameplay of the game but rather enhance it.........heroes function the way they should in DOW..........wont continue this here cause this thread is meant for SC2..........just out of curiosity.....could i know which company are you talking about.....
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Yes, I did in fact mean DOW. Its just that, based on WC3's rather horrible implementation of the hero system, they are writing it off completely... Totally ignoring the fact that many, many, MANY RTS' before and after WC3 had heroes in them.

Anyway, DoW does in fact have a rather good implementation of heroes.
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I do hope this will be better than C&C III and SupCom. Both was kinda dissapointin for me. Heck, the Scrin was really a Zer ripoff
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In DOW heroes are merely support roles for the army. They alone cant win an army.

Other RTS heroes are more for deco as to show that character involve in the battle. Tanya well.. just a nice way to call a Commando.

However in WC3.. Heroes once they are level 7-10 some heroes can pratically take on an army of their own.

Well looking at SC 2 its good to see that its not like WC3. I cant stop to think SC2 is gonna be a another click fest game.
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Actually, talk about hero system, C&C3 is also another one. They don't call it hero but simply "Elite unit", which the entire warfare is not solely depends on him/her/it. And they serve well as support unit (except Nod's one).

So I don't mind SC2 have hero unit, and I believe blizzard can handle it!


Added on May 20, 2007, 1:09 pmOmg the mothership is ... too much already !!! Looks like mothership + 10 pheonix is enuf to destroy entire medium-large base. (unless too much AA unit or defence tower)

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actually the unit veterency system is superior to the hero system. I much prefer it to the heroes
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QUOTE(Araes @ May 20 2007, 02:32 AM)
I was hoping for at least the zerg/protoss hybrid faction or Xel'Naga to be included. I guess Blizzard could still surprise us down the road.
That ability is standard in all 3D RTS games.
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I still think there could be a new race.They might say no new race for now but later,they might say there are new race.

QUOTE(TeckPeow @ May 20 2007, 09:43 AM)
I am so disappointed that its Starcraft 2.....I was hopping it would be DotA 2

Blizzard don't care about DotA anymore...

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See,we cant stop DotA bashing since more and more retards like these keep on pouring in.

QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 20 2007, 11:25 AM)
SC2 cant support a dota play as it will not have lvling up and items in the game.
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SC2 might have an incarnation of DotA if they really release all their tools to make the game,even their source code.

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dun blame the DOTA game, its innocent, blame its player  shakehead.gif my friends and i are dota players and we still play other game
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ May 20 2007, 12:14 PM)
Yes, I did in fact mean DOW. Its just that, based on WC3's rather horrible implementation of the hero system, they are writing it off completely... Totally ignoring the fact that many, many, MANY RTS' before and after WC3 had heroes in them.

Anyway, DoW does in fact have a rather good implementation of heroes.
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DoW does have a good implementation of hero because they are just a support and it's not a must to build them.Unlike WC3 where it's a must to have them,if not,GG.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 20 2007, 01:17 PM)
I still think there could be a new race.They might say no new race for now but later,they might say there are new race.
See,we cant stop DotA bashing since more and more retards like these keep on pouring in.
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And, erm... I believe some people here are purposely posting some pointless message here, either got totally NBTD or wanna draw ppl's attention.
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The hybrid we were expecting isn't exactly new race though, it's rather a cross between 2 original race, maybe that's why they say no new 'races' and spring a surprise to us in SC2? tongue.gif

I think if they wants to improve on the hero system. They should make hero abilities based mostly on passive skills. Aura and such that will improve the army and level up enhances the passive skills effect, nothing more. Giving too much active skills that are overpowering to heroes turns it to into an RPG game. As long as they make it hard to fight Hero to Hero. We'll see less kind of retarded RPG in RTS like SC2.

Hero unit in SC aren't entirely bad though. It created wonderful defense map like Starship Trooper UMS.

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QUOTE(SeaGates @ May 20 2007, 01:29 PM)
The hybrid we were expecting isn't exactly new race though, it's rather a cross between 2 original race, maybe that's why they say no new 'races' and spring a surprise to us in SC2? tongue.gif

I think if they wants to improve on the hero system. They should make hero abilities based mostly on passive skills. Aura and such that will improve the army and level up enhances the passive skills effect, nothing more. Giving too much active skills that are overpowering to heroes turns it to into an RPG game. As long as they make it hard to fight Hero to Hero. We'll see less kind of retarded RPG in RTS like SC2.

Hero unit in SC aren't entirely bad though. It created wonderful defense map like Starship Trooper UMS.
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The main thing is they shouldn't have make the heroes much stronger than the normal units.Active or Passive spells doesn't matter much if the heroes arent overpower in the first place.

I think i have a feeling that the hybrid will appear in Campaign only,just like the Naga race in WC3.Introducing a new race into multiplayer will give them more balancing to do.

Whatever is it,only time will tell.
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Just look at DoW and C&C3 hero unit (pureply support unit). That's what thye need to do in order to avoid WC3 overwhelming hero units.

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 20 2007, 01:43 PM)
The main thing is they shouldn't have make the heroes much stronger than the normal units.Active or Passive spells doesn't matter much if the heroes arent overpower in the first place.

I think i have a feeling that the hybrid will appear in Campaign only,just like the Naga race in WC3.Introducing a new race into multiplayer will give them more balancing to do.

Whatever is it,only time will tell.
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Active spells that attacks unit is what make Heroes in WC3 that powerful. Not to mention how much element in WC3 is focused on Heroes. Even the upkeep system in WC3 is indirectly forcing player to use heroes as massing units become inefficient.

What I mean is they should only make heroes act as 'catalyst' in a fleet. Heroes can't go alone fighting, and a strong army can't be efficient without a hero nearby. They plays a big role in skirmishes but only if they're backed up by a properly managed fleet.

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 20 2007, 01:50 PM)
I want to see the xelnaga though.
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They'll probably appear as non-playable race in SC2. It would be cheating if you can use the Xel'naga. Playing the 'God' in any RTS games is just like typing cheat code tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 20 2007, 01:50 PM)
I want to see the xelnaga though.
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Me too.I have never seen them except that Xel Naga building in SC:BR.

QUOTE(SeaGates @ May 20 2007, 01:52 PM)
They'll probably appear as non-playable race in SC2. It would be cheating if you can use the Xel'naga. Playing the 'God' in any RTS games is just like typing cheat code tongue.gif
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With proper balance,Xel Naga will be balanced and fun to play with or against.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 20 2007, 01:54 PM)
Me too.I have never seen them except that Xel Naga building in SC:BR.

With proper balance,Xel Naga will be balanced and fun to play with or against.
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The protoss temple on Auir is a Xel'naga creation as well.

And with proper balance, a.k.a. weakening of Xel'naga to be played with. They lose their status as God. A bit lowly for the ancient race that created the Zerg and whorshipped by the Protoss don't you think? tongue.gif I would prefer Xel'naga remains as an ancient race as described in the storyline.

Or maybe they'll expand the idea where Protoss used the temple on Shakura to destroy the Zerg by allowing us to use some leftover artifacts by the Xel'Naga in the campaign mode.

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Here are the latest updates and features from StarCraft2.com:

New Units:
  • Immortal (Protoss Unit): Before the loss of Aiur, veteran protoss warriors who had been crippled in battle could volunteer to continue their service by being transplanted into dragoon exoskeletons. Now, the dragoons of the past are all but gone... More Info...
  • Stalker (Protoss Unit): Inspired by the ancient and honored dragoon walkers the dark templar have begun to build war machines of their own. The stalker is a machine controlled by the shadow-essence of a dark templar warrior, willingly fused into its metal body to protect his people... More Info...
  • Phase Prism (Protoss Unit): The protoss use these "phase prisms" in several ways. Their primary function is to transport protoss forces on the field of battle. Both living and inorganic subjects can be transformed into energy, and their unique energy signature imprinted into the prism's crystal lattice core... More Info...
  • Gateway / Warp Gate (Protoss Building): The protoss' ability to manipulate time and space far surpasses the limited understanding of other races. A gateway is a structure capable of opening a spatial rift via which protoss forces can be warped directly from their home territories to the battlefield... More Info...
  • Colossus (Protoss Unit) - A large quad-legged vehicle that fires strong dual lasers. This unit can also traverse differences in terrain height. In the Artwork/Gameplay trailer on Blizzard's site, it appears to "steal" what looks like energy from the unit it is attacking. (wikipedia)
  • Phoenix (Protoss Unit) - An aircraft that can overcharge guns for multiple projectile blasts. However, after the initial blast the ship is rendered inert for a short period of time, unable to move or attack. (wikipedia)
  • Warp Ray (Protoss Unit) - An aircraft that attacks with a blue laser, dealing more damage as it focuses on the same target. It is powerful against tough units and buildings, but wastes damage on small units and can be quickly overcome. (wikipedia)
  • Mothership (Protoss Unit) - A powerful hovering unit that consumes an extreme amount of resources to produce. It is able to attack multiple units at time, and has three unique abilities, which are the Time Bomb, Planet Cracker, and Black Hole. The Time Bomb ability slows all enemy units and stops missile attacks. The Planet Cracker ability is a large laser that fires from the bottom of the Mothership, obliterating anything in its field. The Black Hole ability creates a void that absorbs and destroys enemy aircrafts. Only one Mothership can be active at a time. (wikipedia)
  • Nydus Worm (Zerg Unit) - A transport unit that transports small units such as zerglings from underground. (wikipedia)
  • Baneling (Zerg Unit) - A mutated Zergling filled with explosive and acidic chemicals that can roll across terrain and explode on impact. (wikipedia)
  • Reapers (Terran Unit) - A unit much like the Marines, but carrying dual machine pistols. It has a jump jet allowing it to hop down or up a tier, making it effective for exploiting weak spots in an elevated base. (wikipedia)

Updated Units:
  • Zealot (Protoss Unit): Zealots are peerless templar warriors who have yet to achieve the uppermost ranks of the Khala. Ever eager for battle, zealots train constantly to attune themselves more closely to the Khala's disciplines and prove themselves worthy of advancement. They exemplify the unbridled ferocity of the protoss at war... More Info...
  • Zergling (Zerg Unit)

Gone:
  • Dragoon (Protoss Unit), replaced by Immortals

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 20 2007, 01:43 PM)
The main thing is they shouldn't have make the heroes much stronger than the normal units.Active or Passive spells doesn't matter much if the heroes arent overpower in the first place.
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i agree......i think there shouldnt be any heroes in SC2 as SC has always been about the army and not about heroes appearing in every battle........the reason why DOW heroes are so successful is because the battles were always land battles and heroes always played a support role......

however SC2 always been about engaging large armies lead by the player. there is no need for heroes to be around just for cameo sake or for bragging rights........SC2 should not have any heroes.......if they want to make it good........let them do it in the gameplay and give a game that is as good looking and great playing as DOW or COH.......

Make great gameplay than adding heroes for popularity sake......

QUOTE(SeaGates @ May 20 2007, 01:49 PM)
Active spells that attacks unit is what make Heroes in WC3 that powerful. Not to mention how much element in WC3 is focused on Heroes. Even the upkeep system in WC3 is indirectly forcing player to use heroes as massing units become inefficient.

What I mean is they should only make heroes act as 'catalyst' in a fleet. Heroes can't go alone fighting, and a strong army can't be efficient without a hero nearby. They plays a big role in skirmishes but only if they're backed up by a properly managed fleet.
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Still it takes balance....if that was forsaken like WC3 then its worthless.....besides the reason why there was heroes in the first place for warcraft 3 is because the stories in warcraft 3 ever since the first installment was about heroes and how they lead their armies......it was inevitable that heroes will make an appearance in warcraft 3........
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I think another old unit that is gone could be Protoss Shuttle,since it's replaced by Phase Prism which functions similarly to Shuttle.

I could be wrong.
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With this awesome announcement, I'm paging for Mr H4RRY...MR H4RRY, bila mau belanja?
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Dude, they're making a Warcraft CGI movie right now n they want it to be LotR epic type.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 20 2007, 02:23 PM)
@Laibeus Lord

I think another old unit that is gone could be Protoss Shuttle,since it's replaced by Phase Prism which functions similarly to Shuttle.

I could be wrong.
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I thought phase prism is more like arbiter's recall ability, no?

But with the Nydus Worm around, i'm expecting Nydus Canal is gone too...

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QUOTE(hizperion @ May 20 2007, 02:33 PM)
wow..sauce please..about the Warcraft CGI.
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maybe lol
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 20 2007, 02:23 PM)
@Laibeus Lord

I think another old unit that is gone could be Protoss Shuttle,since it's replaced by Phase Prism which functions similarly to Shuttle.

I could be wrong.
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QUOTE(revivar @ May 20 2007, 02:41 PM)
I thought phase prism is more like arbiter's recall ability, no?

But with the Nydus Worm around, i'm expecting Nydus Canal is gone too...
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Yep, we're actually thinking the same thing... me and my friends discussing about it. Though its hard to tell if the Protoss Shuttle was replaced by the Protoss Phase Prism.. it does appear to have replaced instead the Protoss Arbiter.

And the Nydus Canal seems to be replaced by Nydus Worm.

What do you think guys? You think it to be so? If it is, then I'll include it in the list biggrin.gif


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i do hope they provide heroes system, but just don too overpower..lol
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First, let's clear things off.
Defense of the Aeons was borned from Starcraft, with 3 lanes n heroes as well.

When WC3 was released, the 3 lane map got ported thr and has since been maintained thr.

For DotA noobs, DotA is in ver 6, what DotA 2? Go f**k urself, u call urself DotA players?

DotA is not an RTS n u need zero micro to play. If u play DotA n think u're a pro gamer, u should laugh at urself. DotA doesn't require much skills compared with RTS.

I play DotA because i suck at micro/macro-ing in RTS. All DotA players are the same. I love RTS, but what to do, no talent.

Some fans will bring the 3 lanes map to SC2, whether it's good or not depends on the mapmaker. Whether they does it or not, who gives a damn unless u're a DotA players. It'll never even be 1/10 as good as the SC2. Why cry foul over an ultimately inferior n "for noobs" map?

DotA = CS
And we all know, RTS owns DotA n HL2 owns CS.

This is a SC2 thread, make ur own "DotA bashing", "DotA in SC2 please" thread.

Nydus Worm? Zerg stealth transport? I'm hoping for less units with more skills? More tactical, not for Zergs though, they just rush. Can't micro good enough.
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QUOTE(H4RRY @ May 20 2007, 03:31 PM)
First, let's clear things off.
Defense of the Aeons was borned from Starcraft, with 3 lanes n heroes as well.

When WC3 was released, the 3 lane map got ported thr and has since been maintained thr.

For DotA noobs, DotA is in ver 6, what DotA 2? Go f**k urself, u call urself DotA players?

DotA is not an RTS n u need zero micro to play. If u play DotA n think u're a pro gamer, u should laugh at urself. DotA doesn't require much skills compared with RTS.

I play DotA because i suck at micro/macro-ing in RTS. All DotA players are  the same. I love RTS, but what to do, no talent.

Some fans will bring the 3 lanes map to SC2, whether it's good or not depends on the mapmaker. Whether they does it or not, who gives a damn unless u're a DotA players. It'll never even be 1/10 as good as the SC2. Why cry foul over an ultimately inferior n "for noobs" map?

DotA = CS
And we all know, RTS owns DotA n HL2 owns CS.

This is a SC2 thread, make ur own "DotA bashing", "DotA in SC2 please" thread.

Nydus Worm? Zerg stealth transport? I'm hoping for less units with more skills? More tactical, not for Zergs though, they just rush. Can't micro good  enough.
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the graphic improvement just like from 2D to 3D... still looks cartoonish but it worth yeah... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 20 2007, 01:54 PM)
Me too.I have never seen them except that Xel Naga building in SC:BR.
With proper balance,Xel Naga will be balanced and fun to play with or against.
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I think the xelnaga would join the protoss if anything happens

QUOTE(SeaGates @ May 20 2007, 02:01 PM)
The protoss temple on Auir is a Xel'naga creation as well.

And with proper balance, a.k.a. weakening of Xel'naga to be played with. They lose their status as God. A bit lowly for the ancient race that created the Zerg and whorshipped by the Protoss don't you think? tongue.gif I would prefer Xel'naga remains as an ancient race as described in the storyline.

Or maybe they'll expand the idea where Protoss used the temple on Shakura to destroy the Zerg by allowing us to use some leftover artifacts by the Xel'Naga in the campaign mode.
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If your read the starcraft book the xelnaga scients was annhilated by the zergs after creating them. At least the scientists were.

QUOTE(Hunt @ May 20 2007, 02:06 PM)
i agree......i think there shouldnt be any heroes in SC2 as SC has always been about the army and not about heroes appearing in every battle........the reason why DOW heroes are so successful is because the battles were always land battles and heroes always played a support role......

however SC2 always been about engaging large armies lead by the player. there is no need for heroes to be around just for cameo sake or for bragging rights........SC2 should not have any heroes.......if they want to make it good........let them do it in the gameplay and give a game that is as good looking and great playing as DOW or COH.......

Make great gameplay than adding heroes for popularity sake......
Still it takes balance....if that was forsaken like WC3 then its worthless.....besides the reason why there was heroes in the first place for warcraft 3 is because the stories in warcraft 3 ever since the first installment was about heroes and how they lead their armies......it was inevitable that heroes will make an appearance in warcraft 3........
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I doubt there will be heros, even in the demo there were no heros.
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gosh so many SC2 fanboys...
dun jz bash other games cause u are a fanboy...
COH is an awesome game which relies on your interaction with the environment...
CNC3 is super in terms of large armies due to no population limit (more to my type)...

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but i still like all blizzard game since warcraft1 ... it's more simple and fun to play tho
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Defense of the Aeons lol. Good way to feed false information, newjack.

The very idea came from Aeons of Strife, not Defense of the Aeons, which was what inspired Eul's DotA and eventually DotA:AS.
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personally I dont like the hero based gameplay of WC3. Sure SC had jim raynor, zeratul etc but they were not game deciders.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 20 2007, 12:17 PM)
I do hope this will be better than C&C III and SupCom. Both was kinda dissapointin for me. Heck, the Scrin was really a Zer ripoff
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btw Generals was an awesoem game where the you are generals with speciability in your area and have skills for it...
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Hahaha... Starcraft back in the limelight after all these years! But dudes keep the flames down... Remember, the game's not released yet... And it's a whole new game to play with when released...
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 20 2007, 04:27 PM)
gosh so many SC2 fanboys...
dun jz bash other games cause u are a fanboy...
COH is an awesome game which relies on your interaction with the environment...
CNC3 is super in terms of large armies due to no population limit (more to my type)...
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Id agree that CoH is a good game but CnC3 is badly designed 3 races are simetrical, and talk bout the balances.....
EA= ok got cash who cares balance.

QUOTE(Sesshoumaru @ May 20 2007, 04:34 PM)
Defense of the Aeons lol. Good way to feed false information, newjack.

The very idea came from Aeons of Strife, not Defense of the Aeons, which was what inspired Eul's DotA and eventually DotA:AS.
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I thought its Defence of the Ancients.
And for the love of StarCraft please keep this Dotard topi off here.
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And let's go back to the topic tongue.gif

StarCraft II tongue.gif


Official StarCraft2.com Gameplay trailers delayed..


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And let's go back to the topic tongue.gif

StarCraft II tongue.gif
Official StarCraft2.com Gameplay trailers delayed..
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 20 2007, 04:59 PM)
As expected from Blizzard they always have delays.
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yah haha...

I think they decided to create a new SC2 gameplay trailers... after all, the WWI 2007 gameplay trailers are abundant already tongue.gif YouTube, Google Video, Yahoo Video, name it tongue.gif

Even the YouTube Clones have SC2 videos. hahaha...

Blizzard: "Hey, let's create a new gameplay video, if they upload this to YouTube, then we sue them... we'll let them go for the WWI 2007 Gameplay videos."

Blizzard QA: "Awesome... means more delay! That's more Blizzard like"


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QUOTE(Laibeus Lord @ May 20 2007, 02:04 PM)
[*]Baneling (Zerg Unit) - A mutated Zergling filled with explosive and acidic chemicals that can roll across terrain and explode on impact. (wikipedia)
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Actually this is the new ability of the zergling. They can transform into rolling bombs.

QUOTE(Laibeus Lord @ May 20 2007, 03:03 PM)
Yep, we're actually thinking the same thing... me and my friends discussing about it.  Though its hard to tell if the Protoss Shuttle was replaced by the Protoss Phase Prism.. it does appear to have replaced instead the Protoss Arbiter.

And the Nydus Canal seems to be replaced by Nydus Worm.

What do you think guys?  You think it to be so?  If it is, then I'll include it in the list biggrin.gif
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Shuttles are not gone it is still there. I remember seeing it in one of the movies where they came in and dropped the Zealots.

Phase Prism is actually similar to the ability the Undead had in TFT to make the ground corrupt so they could build support bases away from their main bases.

Nydus Canal cannot be gone either that is a defensive structure of the Zergs. Nydus Worm is probably a transport variant of the canal.

QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 20 2007, 04:23 PM)
I think the xelnaga would join the protoss if anything happens
If your read the starcraft book the xelnaga scients was annhilated by the zergs after creating them. At least the scientists were.
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Xel'Naga are not friendly. They're only interest is to create a perfect being by combining Protoss and Zergs.
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I will never forget the moment when Mengsk left Kerrigan to die by the hand of the Zerg. So sad
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 20 2007, 04:56 PM)
Id agree that CoH is a good game but CnC3 is badly designed 3 races are simetrical, and talk bout the balances.....
EA= ok got cash who cares balance.
I thought its Defence of the Ancients.
And for the love of StarCraft please keep this Dotard topi off here.
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well i CNC3 is kinda balance...
GDI seems all strong but they are not perfect and weak air units...
NOD seems weak but can really deal massive damage fast (rush) and hit and runs option...
Scrin a little slow and hard to use but highly rewarding late game...
its a triangle where GDI > NOD > Scrin > GDI and so on...

anyways back to topic...
blizard are kinda slow in rleasing the games so jz wiat patiently if u want a nicely finished game...
hope the population limit can be increased though...
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Hmm i remember last time playing starcraft with my friend at cc, they always say " Dog coming ! Dog coming ! Help ~~~~! " Some insect or animal name also come out like Bird, Fly ..... spider .....

Maybe this time find them play again will say again XD.

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go to www.gametrailers.com to view the gameplay trailers
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Hmm i remember last time playing starcraft with my friend at cc, they always say " Dog coming ! Dog coming ! Help ~~~~! " Some insect or animal name also come out like Bird, Fly ..... spider .....

Maybe this time find them play again will say again XD.
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DotA = CS
And we all know, RTS owns DotA n HL2 owns CS.
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 20 2007, 04:23 PM)
I think the xelnaga would join the protoss if anything happens
If your read the starcraft book the xelnaga scients was annhilated by the zergs after creating them. At least the scientists were.
I doubt there will be heros, even in the demo there were no heros.
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QUOTE(Araes @ May 20 2007, 05:08 PM)
Actually this is the new ability of the zergling. They can transform into rolling bombs.
Shuttles are not gone it is still there. I remember seeing it in one of the movies where they came in and dropped the Zealots.

Phase Prism is actually similar to the ability the Undead had in TFT to make the ground corrupt so they could build support bases away from their main bases.

Nydus Canal cannot be gone either that is a defensive structure of the Zergs. Nydus Worm is probably a transport variant of the canal.
Xel'Naga are not friendly. They're only interest is to create a perfect being by combining Protoss and Zergs.
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Well in TFT the undead land grows in SC it will be similar to the zergs layer of scumb.

Yeah but then they well annhilated by the zergs, so if there are any survivors they might have allied with the protoss to make the perfect being or they could do it stealthly as why u said or could have happened in SC1 where duran is their agent.

QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 20 2007, 05:13 PM)
well i CNC3 is kinda balance...
GDI seems all strong but they are not perfect and weak air units...
NOD seems weak but can really deal massive damage fast (rush) and hit and runs option...
Scrin a little slow and hard to use but highly rewarding late game...
its a triangle where GDI > NOD > Scrin > GDI and so on...

anyways back to topic...
blizard are kinda slow in rleasing the games so jz wiat patiently if u want a nicely finished game...
hope the population limit can be increased though...
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Mamoth Tanks pwn all their anti air is IMBA.
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Mamoth Tanks pwn all their anti air is IMBA.
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Mammoth tank is way too good tanks by design.It's an anti-all unit and it pawns everything at sight.Hence,it's imba.

QUOTE(influenza04 @ May 20 2007, 05:48 PM)
y terran battle cruiser no yamato gun 1? hmm....got yamato gun if im not mistaken in starcraft 1 rite?
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i am sure will get original copy of this..battle.net rocks.
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errr...guys, i dl the trailer into my pc...now i want to put it into my mp3 player (from DivX into wmv format)..is there any video converter which u guys recommend??
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QUOTE(Araes @ May 20 2007, 11:23 AM)
Download galore ... thanks Araes smile.gif

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 20 2007, 05:55 PM)
Mammoth tank is way too good tanks by design.It's an anti-all unit and it pawns everything at sight.Hence,it's imba.
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It's still there.Note at the red projectile in front of the Battlecruiser.
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not really...
Scrin's destroyer have bigger range and can easier pwn a mass fleet...
and notice that since mammoths moves slow and in a group AOE will hurt them badly...
only imba thing is he can move and shoot same time (i lvoe this =p)

btw guys SC1 wut's ur favourite race?
i like protos since its the most powerful despite the slowness...

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wow i just realize this today.
is the official release date out yet?
system requirements?

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No official release date yet.

Some "top-tier" gaming sites are claiming that "Blizzard said" it will be for sale on October, November and December (depending on which gaming site you are reading).

But majority of those who were at the WWI 2007 event said Blizzard never said anything, but rather replied back when asked that they have no target date.

So, either we believe those high-respected gaming sites who are telling us October, November and December, or we believe the majority of the press and independent reporters tongue.gif

System Requirements, no they have not posted anything about it yet.


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btw guys SC1 wut's ur favourite race?
i like protos since its the most powerful despite the slowness...
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Mine was Terran.
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I liked terran to , inspired by JeeZ of dkdc if anyone remembers art de net 1998-1999, damn he was good, but that was so long ago, i used to play zerg though because they were easy and fun.
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protoss... reaver drop pwns~
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QUOTE(zsbong @ May 20 2007, 06:57 PM)
protoss... reaver drop pwns~
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Combination of Protoss+Zerg for me.

It's sad, current info points to the reaver being a thing of the past, unless they find a way to balance all three races. The Protoss Immortal and Protoss Stalker are powerful enough, there is no more place for a useful unit like the Protoss Reaver sad.gif

Then the Protoss Mothership and another unit.. seems to have replaced the Protoss Carrier...


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Zerg gives me this very dirty feeling... then when u click the units... all those SQUISHY SQUASHY sound... zergling rush then straight mutalisk raid ends a game damn quickly .
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QUOTE(Laibeus Lord @ May 20 2007, 07:05 PM)
Combination of Protoss+Zerg for me.

It's sad, current info points to the reaver being a thing of the past, unless they find a way to balance all three races.  The Protoss Immortal and Protoss Stalker are powerful enough, there is no more place for a useful unit like the Protoss Reaver sad.gif

Then the Protoss Mothership and another unit.. seems to have replaced the Protoss Carrier...
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I do hope that Carrier and Reaver are still in the game.Carrier was one of my favorite unit.

Anyway.i still think Carrier and Reaver still have a place in the Protoss army.The new units havent take over those 2 unit's role.
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QUOTE(Laibeus Lord @ May 20 2007, 07:05 PM)
Then the Protoss Mothership and another unit.. seems to have replaced the Protoss Carrier...
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How can the Mothership replace the carrier when only 1 is allowed at a time?Mothership is supposed to be a superweapon for the Protoss it will be expensive as hell but when it is unleased watch out.

There are still a ton of units that is still not revealed yet.
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Argh Araes you got me an idea!

See, SC2 NO NEED to follow traditional RTS game play to give surprise, like 1 super weapon, or 1 super unit, or few heros for each faction. But instead, it SC2 might take the best amond them! Imagine this: Protoss got Mother ship, Terran got Nuke, Zerg got <insert your suggestion here>, how cool !
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QUOTE(Araes @ May 20 2007, 07:20 PM)
How can the Mothership replace the carrier when only 1 is allowed at a time?Mothership is supposed to be a superweapon for the Protoss it will be expensive as hell but when it is unleased watch out.

There are still a ton of units that is still not revealed yet.
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More on the firepower and resources.

Creating a 6 carriers "may" be the same as creating Mothership in terms of resources. Then the Mothership's firepower is the same as having fully-loaded 4 carriers.

Dunno the 'exact' computation but I'm thinking along that line. I may be wrong, but something like that. Then considering what other new units that could fill up the purpose of having a Carrier unit. With those two new units, there "may" be no more place or a purpose for a carrier.

Which is sad, I love Carriers and Reavers, very good combination.


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graphically, can it better than supreme commander, COH, and CNC3?
this is DX10 or DX9 game?

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Why is the graphics so colourfull?! Dang, it looks similar to the W3 graphic engine. Hope it changes.
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graphically, can it better than supreme commander, COH, and CNC3?
this is DX10 or DX9 game?
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PS 2.0, so those without SM 3.0 card won't have to cry. smile.gif You should be able to play this with Radeon 9800.
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Some discussions going on the different SC2 ... well lots of them...

I will touch on the 'replaced' old units thing:

compiling:
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Possible Units to be removed:

Nydus Canal (Zerg building) - could be replaced by the mobile version -> Nydus Worm (Zerg Unit).

Protoss Reaver (Protoss Unit) - the purpose and usability of this unit overlaps with the new unit that replaced the Protoss Dragoon, which is the new Protoss Immortal. Additionally, the new Protoss Stalker is also overlaps with the usability of the Protoss Reaver, or could be replaced by the new Protoss Colossus.

Protoss Carrier (Protoss Unit) - there is an overlap with the new Protoss Mothership and the new Protoss Warp Ray, Protoss Phoeniex, and evne Protoss Colossus (depending on how you look at it).


Terran Firebat - possibly replaced by the new Terran Reaper.

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Discuss tongue.gif hehehe....

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PS 2.0, so those without SM 3.0 card won't have to cry. smile.gif You should be able to play this with Radeon 9800.
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can't fully utilized newer hardware tongue.gif

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Will StarCraft II take advantage of DirectX 10? What other graphical goodies are included?

The game will be compatible with DirectX 10, and we're still considering whether there will be exclusive DirectX 10 graphic effects, but the graphics engine will also be very scalable to ensure that a wide range of different systems will be capable of running StarCraft II. The new engine is also capable of rendering very large units, as well as large numbers of units on screen together. Havok physics have been integrated into the engine for added realism as well.


http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/790/790147p1.html

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I think Protoss Phoenix will replace Scout.

Firebat should be there because it's suppose to be a melee unit for terran while Reaper is more like a harassing unit and a bit like Zone Trooper.

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GAMEPLAY

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Pardo kicked things off by tracing Blizzard's RTS history. WarCraft II was the root of Blizzard's competitive RTS game experience, as it was one of the earliest to go online. When StarCraft came out, it was the first that Blizzard did to feature three truly asymmetrical factions. Then it was WarCraft III's turn, which Pardo explained as a drastic departure from the gameplay underlying StarCraft. It slowed the pace of gameplay, focused battles on smaller numbers of units, introduced more RPG elements, powerful heroes, and more micro-management of unit abilities.

With StarCraft 2, "we're really going back to our roots," says Pardo. By this he means the sequel will be more StarCraft, more focused on fast-paced gameplay and lesser amounts of micromanagement, rather than an evolution of the WarCraft 3 formula. There won't, for instance, be anything approximating WarCraft 3's "creeping," whereby players hacked away at NPCs on the map to increase hero experience levels and acquire items. Unit abilities in StarCraft 2 are largely automated, and there will still be a focus on proper resource management, at least to a greater extent than in WarCraft 3.

One of Blizzard's primary design goals with StarCraft 2 was to cater to professional gamers' demands. "A lot of the concepts we put into the unit design [in StarCraft 2] is so there's skill differentiation," says Pardo. By this he means that truly skilled players will be able to absolutely crush those of lesser ability. This differs from WarCraft 3, says Pardo, in that skill level had a lesser impact on the game's outcome, or at the very least prolonged games featuring players of widely varying skill levels.



SINGLE PLAYER

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Though few details are available at this point, Pardo says Blizzard is aiming to, "provide a great solo experience." He continued with, "We're really going to focus in on the story; we have a lot of new ideas for how the campaign unfolds." Andy Chambers filled us in a little more during the question and answer session by saying Mengst's Terran Dominion would act as the main Terran force, "Raynor's been having some adventures," and the Xel'naga will have, "a rather epic tale for StarCraft 2." He went on to say, "A lot of those plot elements [in Brood Wars] get played out to their fullest extend in SC2" says Andy Chambers. The interesting point is the implications of the final secret mission in Brood Wars and the mention of a Protoss-Zerg hybrid race. Note that there will only be three playable races in StarCraft 2, the Protoss, Terran, and Zerg, and the storyline takes place four years after the original.


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When asked about the status of the terrans (who were decimated at the end of the Brood War expansion pack for the original Starcraft), creative designer Andy Chambers explains that "the UED terran forces were destroyed by Kerrigan's zerg armies (though a few surviving companies may stil be around somewhere)," and that the Terran faction in Starcraft II will primarily consist of the "evil empire" of the Terran Dominion. When asked about the status of lead character Jim Raynor, Chambers replies that since Starcraft II takes place four years after Brood War, "Raynor has been having some adventures for sure," but declines to comment further. Chambers also suggests that the ancient Xel'Naga, which helped both the protoss and zerg races become what they are (but were later destroyed by the zerg) will also figure into Starcraft II's story "in a rather epic tale."


UNIT BALANCE

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Pardo highlighted a number of bullet points for design goals in the new game, mainly speed, saying the longest a StarCraft 2 match should take is around 20 minutes. Blizzard is emphasizing each races significantly different play styles, though they won't yet reveal how the Terran and Zerg can hope to counter the impressively powerful abilities of the Protoss' Mothership. Specific attention was paid to low-level tech tree abilities, as Pardo explained Blizzard has taken steps to expand the available options and make early-game mechanics more varied.

One small gameplay difference revealed during the panel was how unit positioning is affected by the fog of war. Now when one unit attacks another from higher ground, the fog of war surrounding the higher unit is no longer automatically revealed, meaning the unit at the lower position can't return fire. Obviously this makes having high ground positioning much more valuable. It affects mechanics for new units like the Protoss Stalker, who can blink forward and traverse differences in terrain height. They can't, however, hop up to a higher ledge if the fog of war at their destination has yet to be revealed. This can be rectified by flying in an air unit to push back the fog a bit, letting the units to blink up to the ledge and assault whatever lies beyond - an excellent tactic for surprise attacks. The Stalker blink ability is also useful for kiting enemies, which was demonstrated with a group of them blinking around zealots and blowing them to bits.

Dustin Browder explained a few more unit specifics. He again explained the Protoss Immortal's ability to put up near-impenetrable shields when under heavy fire, such as that from siege tanks, yet being vulnerable to weak attacks that won't activate their shields. The Immortal is designed to be a slow moving unit, so they're not skilled at escaping an attack. Though they possess heavy armor, their maneuverability is a severely limiting factor when fighting Zealots, Marines, or Zerglings.

Explained again were the mechanics of the Protoss Pheonix, which can perform an overload attack to shoot out multiple energy blasts. After the attack the unit is rendered inert for a short while, meaning careful implementation of the overload is required. Finally he demonstrated an advanced use of the Protoss' warping ability, which can be done within phase fields surrounding Pylons or the new Phase Prisms. He warped a few Zealots to cut off an enemy's advance into his base, trapping the invaders between the units and a structure. He followed up by warping in Stalkers to pepper the enemy with laser fire from behind a barrier row of Pylons.


BETA TEST & NAVAL COMBAT?

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There was no date announced for the eventual StarCraft 2 beta, but Pardo said they'll eventually take applications for play and accept a certain percentage. A number of professional StarCraft gamers will also be specifically invited. In response to a question from the audience, Browder noted, "we have no plans at this time for naval combat." Yes, naval combat in space...


Source: StarCraft 2's Gameplay Balance - The evolution of Blizzard's RTS mechanics.

Source: Blizzard talks Starcraft II gameplay details - Gamespot

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Rob McNaughton then took the stage to speak briefly about creating units. Blizzard is using Photoshop for texturing, 3D Studio Max, and StarTools to integrate custom art into the game. StarTools is planned to be made available to the public along with ScummEdit for map creation. McNaughton went on to say the map editor will feature new scripting and trigger mechanics, and be a more powerful version than that found in WarCraft 3. In terms of fancy technical effects, StarCraft 2 is built on a DX9 engine and uses per pixel lighting, normal mapping, high dynamic range bloom, rendering and tone mapping, as well as integrated havoc physics. Using their engine, Blizzard is hoping to have up to 300 units on screen at once.


Source: StarCraft 2's Art Design - How units and environments are being created in the sequel.

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McNaughton explains that Starcraft II's graphics will be based off of the DirectX 9.0 API will full support for Pixel Shader 2.0, including support for conventional DirectX 9.0 effets such as normal mapping and high dynamic range lighting and bloom. However, though the game will be playable on both WindowsXP and Vista, Starcraft II, in its current early state, does not support DirectX 10. The artist tempers his description of the advanced graphical effects by explaining that although the game will feature advanced graphical effects, it will scale, to some extent, downward to still allow players who don't own cutting-edge PC hardware to play the game.


Source: Blizzard talks Starcraft II art design - Gamespot

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300 units at once? that's not counting all the projectiles flying around by every unit, and all the shrapnels.... all reacting to physics? It sounds like a GC's nightmare to run at full settings.
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300 units at once? that's not counting all the projectiles flying around by every unit, and all the shrapnels.... all reacting to physics? It sounds like a GC's nightmare to run at full settings.
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Try playing Cossacks with at least 2thousand units on the screen or the same time.

Or Medieval 2 with 3000 units for that matter. laugh.gif
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I think Protoss Phoenix will replace Scout.

Firebat should be there because it's suppose to be a melee unit for terran while Reaper is more like a harassing unit and a bit like Zone Trooper.
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Good point there.
And yes, that's another one... Protoss Phoenix to replace the Protoss Scout.


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Really interesting here as well is the fast-mode of the Zealots. Makes them more useful now unlike with SC1, they're pretty useless unless you are playing DeathMatch (ie rush-game).


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300 units at once? that's not counting all the projectiles flying around by every unit, and all the shrapnels.... all reacting to physics? It sounds like a GC's nightmare to run at full settings.
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by that time my 8800gts will have something to work for drool.gif brows.gif

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After watching the trailers and such... it's kinda funny how powerful and advanced those protoss with mini black holes, warping, robotics, psionic abilities, shield and such but still have tough time with those bloody humans pi... oops that's us ohmy.gif as well the zergs. It reminds me of how great the Xel naga but sadly got owned almost twice by their own creation and this time probably the third with these hybrids or something doh.gif .
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The task:
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The time: 43 minutes.

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how do i know if my video card have pixel shader 2.0?
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state ur card model here

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how do i know if my video card have pixel shader 2.0?
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dx9 based cards should have SM2.0

I wonder how they can scale the 3d engine to support SM2.0,3.0 and 4.0 at the same time? shocking.gif
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MSI GeForce Fx 5600 with 256mb DDR have the SM2.0 thing?
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I wonder any laptop can play Starcraft 2? New Santa rosa model?
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laptop? you just have to make sure that u have the right GC, and other requirements.

Heh if protoss so smart they would just open a rift and bring themselves a billion light years awaay from everyone. But its not in their code to be cowards. So.....
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QUOTE(NicJolin @ May 21 2007, 12:08 AM)
MSI GeForce Fx 5600  with 256mb DDR have the SM2.0 thing?
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ya no prob... of course not the ultra high settings
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In terms of basic gameplay details, Starcraft II will be what vice president of game design Rob Pardo calls "a true sequel to Starcraft." The sequel is confirmed to only feature the original three playable races from the previous games: the protoss, the zerg, and the terrans; there will be no fourth race, not even the zerg/protoss hybrid which appeared in a mission in Brood War. There will also be no hero characters, unlike in Blizzard's last RTS, 2002's Warcraft III. Instead, the sequel will be very much about what Pardo calls "mass armies"--large groups of units doing battle at once. Pardo has pointed out that unlike previous Blizzard games, Starcraft II will have no "selection limit"--that is, you'll be able to click and drag your mouse to select an unlimited number of your own armies to control.


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suck on THAT ! No more DOTA for you! laugh.gif icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(slickz @ May 21 2007, 12:25 AM)
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amen to that
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I think even Blizzard got fed-up with DotA already... hence no hero character in SC2 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lightbringer @ May 20 2007, 11:17 PM)
how do i know if my video card have pixel shader 2.0?
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 21 2007, 12:03 AM)
dx9 based cards should have SM2.0

I wonder how they can scale the 3d engine to support SM2.0,3.0 and 4.0 at the same time? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 21 2007, 12:23 AM)
should be ok coz its dx9 card. But i think it will be very lag to play even on 800*600
ya no prob... of course not the ultra high settings
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Nvidia never had a PS 2.0 card ever. Geforce FX cards were crap of a graphic cards and was thought to be a PS 2.0 card but it had only PS 1.1 capability. You can find out when you're playing Source Engine powered game. I know I used to use one.

ATI is the only major gc maker that have PS 2.0 cards from Radeon 9500 right up to X850.

Later Nvidia got their act together and started making better DX 9 cards with the 6000 series which had SM 3.0.

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Holy cow, really cant wait for SC2 , mass Zerglings FTW drool.gif

Dang I still suck at using Terran, I think the most difficult to master but once mastered, its the ownage SIEGE TANK!!111ONEONE
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QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ May 21 2007, 12:41 AM)
I think even Blizzard got fed-up with DotA already... hence no hero character in SC2 laugh.gif
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Hmm.. no way Blizzard got fed up with DotA. Some ppl bought WC3 just to play DotA!!
I think Blizzard got plan for em dotards, Diablo 3. I believe Diablo 3 multiplayer will be played like DotA. Imagine DotA style gameplay but with many different maps to choose. Orgasm for them dotards. See, Blizzard got some brain there, those dotards will stay out of SC2(everyone will be happy) while blizzard squeezes money from dotards using Diablo 3.
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diablo 3 not even anoounced yet
dotard... lol what a great name laugh.gif
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QUOTE(slickz @ May 21 2007, 12:25 AM)
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suck on THAT ! No more DOTA for you!  laugh.gif  icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Phoenixwunin @ May 21 2007, 12:41 AM)
I think even Blizzard got fed-up with DotA already... hence no hero character in SC2 laugh.gif
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Yeah,stay off my shinning Starcraft 2,you game-ruining DotArds.

QUOTE(RtP|DEV @ May 21 2007, 01:59 AM)
Hmm.. no way Blizzard got fed up with DotA. Some ppl bought WC3 just to play DotA!!
I think Blizzard got plan for em dotards, Diablo 3. I believe Diablo 3 multiplayer will be played like DotA. Imagine DotA style gameplay but with many different maps to choose. Orgasm for them dotards. See, Blizzard got some brain there, those dotards will stay out of SC2(everyone will be happy) while blizzard squeezes money from dotards using Diablo 3.
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I that only apply for Malaysia where dotards go to their nearest pirated CD shop to get a copy of WC3:TFT and play it on the Bull S**t server.

OMG,Diablo 3=DotA.At least Bill Roper is making Hellgate now,like i care about Diablo 3.
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HAHAHA "DOTARDS"!! The best ev'r!!

Let's start a campaign lolz...

Petition "No to DOTARDS in StarCraft II"


Added on May 21, 2007, 10:25 am
QUOTE(slickz @ May 21 2007, 12:25 AM)
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AMEN TO THAT!!

DOTArds GTHell!! You can't kill a god!!

StarCraft is god, we don't need to "Defend" the "Ancients", we don't need "Heroes", we are the Heroes, StarCraft is "the" god of RTS, it will even RULE THE KING (C&C is claiming to be the King of RTS).

StarCraft = god
C&C = king

StarCraft > C&C > WC3 > DOTArds!!

Thank you Blizzard!!!



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QUOTE(Laibeus Lord @ May 21 2007, 10:19 AM)
HAHAHA "DOTARDS"!!  The best ev'r!!

Let's start a campaign lolz...

Petition "No to DOTARDS in StarCraft II"


Added on May 21, 2007, 10:25 am

AMEN TO THAT!!

DOTArds GTHell!!  You can't kill a god!!

StarCraft is god, we don't need to "Defend" the "Ancients", we don't need "Heroes", we are the Heroes, StarCraft is "the" god of RTS, it will even RULE THE KING (C&C is claiming to be the King of RTS).

StarCraft = god
C&C = king

StarCraft > C&C > WC3 > DOTArds!!

Thank you Blizzard!!!
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have it on everyones sig tongue.gif .
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QUOTE(Laibeus Lord @ May 21 2007, 10:19 AM)
HAHAHA "DOTARDS"!!  The best ev'r!!

Let's start a campaign lolz...

Petition "No to DOTARDS in StarCraft II"


Added on May 21, 2007, 10:25 am

AMEN TO THAT!!

DOTArds GTHell!!  You can't kill a god!!

StarCraft is god, we don't need to "Defend" the "Ancients", we don't need "Heroes", we are the Heroes, StarCraft is "the" god of RTS, it will even RULE THE KING (C&C is claiming to be the King of RTS).

StarCraft = god
C&C = king

StarCraft > C&C > WC3 > DOTArds!!

Thank you Blizzard!!!
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LOL,lets start an anitdota petition.
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have it on everyones sig tongue.gif .
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Heheh good idea....

implemented.. check my sig tongue.gif


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LOL,lets start an anitdota petition.
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Now, I am just waiting for the BETA to be released. Hope that i will be just as lucky like last time when i was choosen to join Frozen Throne beta. smile.gif
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This thread is becoming off topic with anti-dota sentiments. But i hate dota as well so there u go tongue.gif
DotA-less Starcraft FTW!! smile.gif
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during the 1st generation of SC and Red Alert, there's no such things called noob!!! all players can easily adapt into the game and play teamwork strategy game!!! d@mn!! Now everytime went in Dota, sure kena called kena noob...hahaha!!! I thk SC2, i'm no more noob...I'm still playing broodwar until now since SC1 was borned!!! SC is the best!!

Remember past stragies like sending zerglings in 1 minutes to wack enemy base and building protoss canon infront of enemy base in 3-4 minutes!!! laugh.gif

so NO DOTA in SC2!! I hate being called noob in the game I love the most!!~~ laugh.gif

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QUOTE(s[H]sIkuA @ May 21 2007, 01:49 AM)
Holy cow, really cant wait for SC2 , mass Zerglings FTW drool.gif
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Until you meet the Colossus! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(takeshi99 @ May 21 2007, 11:05 AM)
during the 1st generation of SC and Red Alert, there's no such things called noob!!! all players can easily adapt into the game and play teamwork strategy game!!! d@mn!! Now everytime went in Dota, sure kena called kena noob...hahaha!!! I thk SC2, i'm no more noob...I'm still playing broodwar until now since SC1 was borned!!! SC is the best!!
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WTF? The term "noob" was thrown around since the days of Quake and most notably in Starcraft (FYI, the term "pwned" also came from SC). Another victim of DotA culture it seems.
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ May 21 2007, 11:13 AM)
WTF? The term "noob" was thrown around since the days of Quake and most notably in Starcraft (FYI, the term "pwned" also came from SC). Another victim of DotA culture it seems.
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haha.. din play quake before... tongue.gif but Im for sure that DotA have the most fouling language used from players ever...hahaha....
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dota is for suckers. everytime i wana download stuffs from net, my hsemates will ask me to stop dl becoz they wana play dota. ><
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You guys forget... DUNE is the true grandfather of RTS games.
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I see another potential for Starcraft 2.

In Warcraft 3 Ice throne i play a mod map called Night of the Dead where you have to survive 15 waves with marines.

doh.gif this would be kewl.
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anti-dota sentiment it seems... hell with that iam in... DOTArds love to be called pro or whatever s**tazz... i never see any great achievement playing a modded game which is item dependant...

BTW back to SC2, iam more into the storyline... hell i love all the storyline from all of the blizzards franchise, whether its diablo,Warcraft or starcraft... it's all nicely elaborated and beautifully decorated... The Storyline is my priority here then comes Multiplayer... lol
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QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ May 21 2007, 11:50 AM)
You guys forget... DUNE is the true grandfather of RTS games.
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That'd be Dune 2. Dune was an adventure game.
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Hey guys, found an existing word and definition for DOTArd:

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dotard (plural dotards)

1. an old person with impaired intellect; one in his dotage
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BWHAHAHAA!!!

Let's add this:

2. a person who plays DOTA and thinks he's an RTS gamer;


Source: http://wordnavigator.com/word/dotard/

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 21 2007, 12:23 AM)
should be ok coz its dx9 card. But i think it will be very lag to play even on 800*600
ya no prob... of course not the ultra high settings
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i have a question
sc 2 running on warcraft III engine or has it a new engine?
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i have a question
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It's a brand new engine with a physics engine in it.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 21 2007, 01:15 PM)
It's a brand new engine with a physics engine in it.
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no wonder it took so long
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i wonder wat are the new zerg n terran units

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Eeeks, now suddenly thinking, anyone gotta make the gundam century mdo for SC2 ar? Hee hee (of course not the terran overpower again) tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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1. Quantity vs. Quality

As opposed to Warcraft III where the player controls a few units with many different special abilities, Starcraft 2 will be a numbers game:

    Starcraft 2 [units] will instead act as "movers and shooters"-mostly autonomous forces that generally lack special abilities, but will instead be used in large control groups to "do their own thing" in battle, rather than requiring the micromanagement of high-level Warcraft III play.

2. More emphasis on economic activity

Another comparison to Warcraft III which had relatively little emphasis on the economy, so players can focus on battles instead. Starcraft 2 will have its pronounced emphasis on bases and expansions as a means of achieving victory.

3. Rushing - strongly encouraged

Unlike Warcraft which introduced neutral creeps to keep the players occupied, Starcraft 2 will put more emphasis on rushing. Engaging the enemy early and keeping him occupied will distinguish good players from mediocre ones. Which leads us to...

4. The good, the bad, and the GOSU

According to Pardo, Warcraft III was more forgiving to beginners (and lamers!). In Starcraft 2, the gap in the level will be a lot more evident. Pro players will be able to mow down their opponents in record time by way of builds, multitasking, and quick expansions:

    Starcraft 2 ... will appeal to hardcore fans by being geared toward "highly competitive, skill-based gameplay," as well as by efforts to "continue to drive new features onto Battle.net".

5. Beyond rock-paper-scissors

Starcraft 2 units will introduce more and more subtle ways to counter the opponent's strategy. The key to good counters will be timing, maneuverability, and position (there's a brand new implementation of higher ground - more damage, fog of war).

    The protoss phoenix, a flying unit, has a special "overload" ability that creates a damaging energy field around itself, then renders it immobile and helpless shortly afterward. In a simulated battle between a player with six phoenix units and another player with only four, the player with six phoenixes apparently chokes and uses the overload ability too early, allowing the other player to dodge out of harm's way, then arrange the four phoenixes around the now immobile six in a loose formation and overload the six into oblivion.


http://www.maxfreak.com/starcraft2/archive...and-warcraft-3/


hmmm totally different take on tactics
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QUOTE(zsbong @ May 20 2007, 07:13 PM)
Zerg gives me this very dirty feeling... then when u click the units... all those SQUISHY SQUASHY sound...  zergling rush then straight mutalisk raid ends a game damn quickly .
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Hmm u remind me of JAp H-games H-animes and AVs..... laugh.gif

QUOTE(Vorador @ May 20 2007, 07:26 PM)
Argh Araes you got me an idea!

See, SC2 NO NEED to follow traditional RTS game play to give surprise, like 1 super weapon, or 1 super unit, or few heros for each faction. But instead, it SC2 might take the best amond them! Imagine this: Protoss got Mother ship, Terran got Nuke, Zerg got <insert your suggestion here>, how cool !
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Aren those in traditional RTS too? Esp nukes its in every RTS almost.

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 20 2007, 08:42 PM)
I think Protoss Phoenix will replace Scout.

Firebat should be there because it's suppose to be a melee unit for terran while Reaper is more like a harassing unit and a bit like Zone Trooper.
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Yeah, me to and I feel that makes protoss loose their air superiority. :<

QUOTE(RtP|DEV @ May 21 2007, 01:59 AM)
Hmm.. no way Blizzard got fed up with DotA. Some ppl bought WC3 just to play DotA!!
I think Blizzard got plan for em dotards, Diablo 3. I believe Diablo 3 multiplayer will be played like DotA. Imagine DotA style gameplay but with many different maps to choose. Orgasm for them dotards. See, Blizzard got some brain there, those dotards will stay out of SC2(everyone will be happy) while blizzard squeezes money from dotards using Diablo 3.
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LoL Thats be funny, yeah squeeze the dotards squezze them dry.

QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ May 21 2007, 11:50 AM)
You guys forget... DUNE is the true grandfather of RTS games.
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Yup good old dune2.

QUOTE(Yue @ May 21 2007, 11:59 AM)
anti-dota sentiment it seems... hell with that iam in... DOTArds love to be called pro or whatever s**tazz... i never see any great achievement playing a modded game which is item dependant...

BTW back to SC2, iam more into the storyline... hell i love all the storyline from all of the blizzards franchise, whether its diablo,Warcraft or starcraft... it's all nicely elaborated and beautifully decorated... The Storyline is my priority here then comes Multiplayer... lol
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Yup I think blizzard makes the most ballanced games interms of campaign and Multiplayer too. Their game storyline kicks ass, unlike some other games where they have good storyline back ground but they cant follow i through in the game.

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Eeeks, now suddenly thinking, anyone gotta make the gundam century mdo for SC2 ar? Hee hee (of course not the terran overpower again) tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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yeah that was a classic too, but I recon that gundam should be imba just like in the animes. Where once they come out they cant die and pwns all.
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Yes man, in the anime 1 gundam can vs 100 zaku no prob, that's why in Gundam Century, terran is overpower~~ I believe it will be very beautiful to make SC2 of Gundam Century !
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 21 2007, 02:47 PM)
Yes man, in the anime 1 gundam can vs 100 zaku no prob, that's why in Gundam Century, terran is overpower~~ I believe it will be very beautiful to make SC2 of Gundam Century !
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Every unit is a super weapon then.
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post May 21 2007, 03:53 PM

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Aiks, means this time make it balance lar, no more Gundam force overwhelm everythign again...
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post May 21 2007, 04:14 PM

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This game looks damn cun wei! Blizzard so sneaky can keep everything a secret until recently. Clearance for Blizzard staff must be like Pentagon.. tongue.gif

Keep replaying the gameplay trailer. Everything so smooth-flowing.. drool.gif
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post May 21 2007, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ May 21 2007, 05:01 PM)
This game looks damn cun wei! Blizzard so sneaky can keep everything a secret until recently. Clearance for Blizzard staff must be like Pentagon.. tongue.gif

Keep replaying the gameplay trailer. Everything so smooth-flowing.. drool.gif
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Nah, this got leaked a few months by some Korean dudes... Valve did a far better job with HL2 IMHO... During E3, it was like "Whoa, didn't see that coming!"... Nobody expected anything. For this, there was like speculation after speculation over the last 2 months over what the hell Blizzard was going to do. For Valve, they had pretty much fallen off the face of the earth UNTIL they showed it off at E3.

Another example of blind Blizzard fanboyism.
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post May 21 2007, 05:21 PM

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lolz... H@H@ dun so bad le~ XD ppl cry later xD ... I tot the korean dudes last year say liao? lol

Anyway, i saw some article saying blizz going to announce new wow expension pack or diablo3 on august? isit true? huhu blur liao

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ May 21 2007, 05:07 PM)
Nah, this got leaked a few months by some Korean dudes... Valve did a far better job with HL2 IMHO... During E3, it was like "Whoa, didn't see that coming!"... Nobody expected anything. For this, there was like speculation after speculation over the last 2 months over what the hell Blizzard was going to do. For Valve, they had pretty much fallen off the face of the earth UNTIL they showed it off at E3.

Another example of blind Blizzard fanboyism.
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ah I remember Half-Life 2.
It was like all... "Omg Doom 3 looks freaking sweet Its gonna be awesome!"...until HL2 was previewed.
It became "Doom 3 sucks lol HL2 wins."
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ May 21 2007, 05:07 PM)
Another example of blind Blizzard fanboyism.
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Ouch. U always shoot down ppl like that? a fan? yes. Blind loyalty? Hardly..



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