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Vk21
post Nov 2 2017, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 2 2017, 11:45 AM)
Yah, thereabout.... slightly bigger, 2.5 Yr.

The other significant asset is my KWSP port which is double than this cash port.

I don't have properties, I don't flip prop. My wealth comes purely from salary in which I spend less than I earn, then invest the rest.

I save, then invest using DCA, i.e., the regular Joe method. I still have 20 more years thereabout till retirement.

If I have started much younger, in my twenties, I would be in a much better position now. I only started to be financially savvy in my mid 30's. I wasted ten years of time in my twenties. Having said this, I do notice some of these people who join the forum are much younger. Kudos to them to be financially savvy at such a young age. Let me tell you young people, it is worth it.... Delayed gratification is worth it! Watch your risk, let the return take care of itself....

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Thanks senpai for sharing rclxms.gif

I myself nearing 30 y.o., have been "observing" for investment instrument for too many years before actually dipping into it.

Btw, I would like to kindly ask for help on building "DIY" port, my current purchased UTs:
- Kenanga Growth - 2 unit
- MANU Reit - 2 unit
- TA Global Tech - 2 unit
- CIMB Greater China - 1 unit

*unit = x amount of money

Above are DIY that I put about 1/3 of UT investment while the rest of 2/3 goes to balanced managed portfolio. In near future I'd have even less time to monitor it, so my future strategy is to look at my base UT and top up on those I'd like to. I'm looking for more "base" UT to compliment above.

Candidates:
- CIMB Global Titan
- Affin Hwang Select Asia ( Ex Japan ) Opportunity
- Eastspring Global Emerging Market ( new candidate, hehe )

Likely going to be ex-candidate:
- CIMB Chi Indi Indo
- Interpac Dana Safi

A lot of lucrative UT are heavily Asia based, trying to diversify here. Any input please? Of course I'm open to more UT not mentioned above that are reliable in long term, Thanks in advance.

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post Nov 2 2017, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Vk21 @ Nov 2 2017, 03:37 PM)
Thanks senpai for sharing rclxms.gif

I myself nearing 30 y.o., have been "observing" for investment instrument for too many years before actually dipping into it.

Btw, I would like to kindly ask for help on building "DIY" port, my current purchased UTs:
- Kenanga Growth - 2 unit
- MANU Reit - 2 unit
- TA Global Tech - 2 unit
- CIMB Greater China - 1 unit

*unit = x amount of money

Above are DIY that I put about 1/3 of UT investment while the rest of 2/3 goes to balanced managed portfolio. In near future I'd have even less time to monitor it, so my future strategy is to look at my base UT and top up on those I'd like to. I'm looking for more "base" UT to compliment above.

Candidates:
- CIMB Global Titan
- Affin Hwang Select Asia ( Ex Japan ) Opportunity
- Eastspring Global Emerging Market ( new candidate, hehe )

Likely going to be ex-candidate:
- CIMB Chi Indi Indo
- Interpac Dana Safi

A lot of lucrative UT are heavily Asia based, trying to diversify here. Any input please? Of course I'm open to more UT not mentioned above that are reliable in long term, Thanks in advance.
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post Nov 2 2017, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Vk21 @ Nov 2 2017, 03:37 PM)
"DIY" port, my current purchased UTs:
- Kenanga Growth - 2 unit      (28.6%)
- MANU Reit - 2 unit               (28.6%)
- TA Global Tech - 2 unit         (28.6%)
- CIMB Greater China - 1 unit  (14.3%)

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put it in % for easier looky looky

btw, just a note: CIMB Greater China, EI GEM and Ponzi 2.0 has a correlation of 0.8 and above

This post has been edited by T231H: Nov 2 2017, 03:58 PM
Vk21
post Nov 2 2017, 04:21 PM

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CIMB APDI hmm.gif "Asia Pacific ex Japan", sounds like overlapping field with AH Select Asia Opp? What is the deciding factor I can choose between the two?
T231 also mention high correlation with with other asian UTs.

But has been wondering why is it called ponzi 2.0? the scheme is real? sweat.gif

And what is the UT name of the one has been referred as ponzi 1.0?

This post has been edited by Vk21: Nov 2 2017, 04:22 PM
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post Nov 2 2017, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Vk21 @ Nov 2 2017, 04:21 PM)
CIMB APDI  hmm.gif  "Asia Pacific ex Japan", sounds like overlapping field with AH Select Asia Opp? What is the deciding factor I can choose between the two?
T231 also mention high correlation with with other asian UTs.

But has been wondering why is it called ponzi 2.0? the scheme is real? sweat.gif

And what is the UT name of the one has been referred as ponzi 1.0?
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maybe this comparison chart may help.
btw, Ponzi 2.0 had been on the FSM recommended fund list for a number of years over AHSAOF

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post Nov 2 2017, 05:40 PM

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just read this.....hope you guys liked it too....

Benefits of Staying Invested
October 31, 2017/by Affin Hwang Asset Management
http://affinhwangam.com/benefits-of-staying-invested/

click PDF download for more of that article

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post Nov 2 2017, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Nov 2 2017, 05:40 PM)
just read this.....hope you guys liked it too....

Benefits of Staying Invested
October 31, 2017/by Affin Hwang Asset Management
http://affinhwangam.com/benefits-of-staying-invested/

click PDF download for more of that article
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post Nov 2 2017, 06:03 PM

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Guys, I'm trying out the polarbearz spreadsheet, may i know how do you guys update the sheet "Fund Allocation"?

I tried looking at fact sheet of my funds, but some didnt state how much they have in each country/how much investment is in equity or fixed income of which country.

Thanks!
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post Nov 2 2017, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Nov 2 2017, 06:03 PM)
Guys, I'm trying out the polarbearz spreadsheet, may i know how do you guys update the sheet "Fund Allocation"?

I tried looking at fact sheet of my funds, but some didnt state how much they have in each country/how much investment is in equity or fixed income of which country.

Thanks!
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Some one mentioned before that he used agar agar based from the info from the prospectus.......or annual financial report

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post Nov 2 2017, 08:53 PM

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wow..... rclxm9.gif
in just 1 day...my port +0.82% ....
hope you guys are doing great too.....

hmm.gif Prelude to a great fall?? sweat.gif devil.gif
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post Nov 2 2017, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Nov 2 2017, 08:53 PM)
wow..... rclxm9.gif
in just 1 day...my port +0.82% ....
hope you guys are doing great too.....

hmm.gif Prelude to a great fall?? sweat.gif  devil.gif
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that was yesterday result, today should drop abit hmm.gif
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post Nov 2 2017, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Nov 2 2017, 09:11 PM)
that was yesterday result, today should drop abit  hmm.gif
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blush.gif drop no tell-lah... innocent.gif
this month will have a few funds having distribution which will "screw" my tracking for awhile...

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post Nov 2 2017, 09:42 PM

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well we need to stay true to the spirit of UT, don't care about recent market volatility, instead focus on our long term allocation instead.
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post Nov 2 2017, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Nov 2 2017, 08:53 PM)
wow..... rclxm9.gif
in just 1 day...my port +0.82% ....
hope you guys are doing great too.....

hmm.gif Prelude to a great fall?? sweat.gif  devil.gif
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post Nov 2 2017, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Nov 2 2017, 05:14 PM)
maybe this comparison chart may help.
btw, Ponzi 2.0 had been on the FSM recommended fund list for a number of years over AHSAOF
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Thanks Mum biggrin.gif

I guess my diversification is missing other continents now: US, Europe.

Not sure if I should also put India and some South America, sounds more like extra than main units.
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QUOTE(Vk21 @ Nov 2 2017, 10:00 PM)
Thanks Mum biggrin.gif

I guess my diversification is missing other continents now: US, Europe.

Not sure if I should also put India and some South America, sounds more like extra than main units.
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if you want can try see the holdings of FSM Managed Portfolios
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post Nov 2 2017, 10:14 PM

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Greater China vs Emerging Markets
Which one would you guys suggest for a higher return ?
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post Nov 2 2017, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(jfleong @ Nov 2 2017, 10:14 PM)
Greater China vs Emerging Markets
Which one would you guys suggest for a higher return ?
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what is the time frame?
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post Nov 2 2017, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 2 2017, 10:16 PM)
what is the time frame?
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Long, very long , 30 years also can
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post Nov 2 2017, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(jfleong @ Nov 2 2017, 10:19 PM)
Long, very long , 30 years also can
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for 30 yrs.....I would vote GEM

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