Monte Carlo sim is one of the better multithreaded examples with Excel. But cyberpunk/ACV doesn't get more juice out from the second CCD. So for whether the 5900X is worthwhile - depends entirely on how well his Excel workloads already use his 5800X.

ECC is why Linus Torvalds is a huge fan of Threadripper and ditched his Intel HEDT setup, because to him unofficial support is better than nothing. There's a rant of his about ECC last month in LKML last month IIRC.

I've seen scalpers trying to sell 5800X for 2.3k before.

which is ironic because ryzen has a bunch of missing components to run certain linux distro smoothly lmao... only now they create a dedicated team to sort the problems for future chips.

Too reliant on OSS community to fix everything. Their Radeon Linux drivers were abysmal too when they were still using fglrx instead of open source. Now Nvidia is considered to have the worse Linux drivers lol (even if only by a little bit).

Thank bro. Will look into it. As mention. I dont want be a scalper. As my rig got fried that why i built new rig. And i know its pity for those enthusiast like us wanted to get a rig. That why consider selling it at 2k.

And yeah.. i try find alot of article how to make my excel dont crash but can't find any. Sadly. But i know with more ram , its better. i got 2 set of 32 gb of 16 x 2 corsair vengeance rgb pro 3600. 64gb kinda killing but works well with my rig now.

Wanted to built intel as its cheaper but then I anti Intel nowdays haha.. too much monopoly and wanted give team red a win here.

My initial plan was to get Asus X13 flow but after weeks of pesturing asus malaysia they mention not bringing it in. The Ram is damn fast and got egpu of 3080. But sad part is hdd is only small m2 of 1tb only.


Gg.. i should buy ECC ram instead of gaming ram.. Will check whether my MSI unify X570 can support or not. I know it support up ot 5000 mhz speed in ram overclocking. Low profile motherboard. Seem not much people buy this though.

ram has been a problem for this kind of data analytic tasks for me and it became one of the reasons I switched to intel just 3 days ago. But I wont vouch that intel consumer will be 100% crash free with excel, maybe slightly better but ultimately ECC and Xeon is still a better choice for such task. (that's why there are some professional thinkpads and thinkcentre that comes with xeons)

But yeah, belum cuba belum tau. It's always fun to try new tech anyways...and given AMD's pricing now, it wont be a problem selling when it's not suitable.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Feb 18 2021, 06:28 PM

Thanks bonchi for sharing. Noted. Will get xeon and ecc ram in future. Or will amd 5800x or 5900x do as well as I think I saw my motherboard support ecc ram as well or to built a threatrepper rig.

Gg. Desktop is so customizable..

Put both for sale, whichever sold first means you keep the other

3950X had arrived.

Bought it from joinothing over here https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5102093




Replaced 5600X with 3950X.


edit:
3950X idle CPU PPT = 15W
5950X idle CPU PPT = 28W

Both are using mainboard Precision Boost Overdrive and Auto OC +200Mhz.

Anyone know what with the variance in idling power usage?

This post has been edited by JohnLai: Feb 18 2021, 08:55 PM

Curve Optimizer, stock AMD PPT settings - 28W also with my 5800XT. CPU cores only sipping 3W, SoC eats up 12W of the lot. Not sure where the rest is coming from.

So, I can assume all Zen 3 has idle CPU PPT of 28W.

Anyone with previous Zen 2 can verify on idle 15W - 18W CPU PPT?

I suspect it's a misreading as the PPT seems to be the sum of two values in HWInfo: SoC Power and SoC+Core Power. I don't see any other related values reported there.

Just had my first taste of zen experience with my first whea error.
Also JFC this chip idle's hotter than my 10900k

RM2k i take la,
jual or not?

Zen 3 memang hotter than Comet Lake. You squeeze in so many cores and threads into 1 tiny ass package, if not hot then it goes against logic already.

Comet Lake die size: 198.2mm2, ~250W max power draw
Zen3 CPU die size: 83.736mm2, ~127W max power draw (assuming 142W PPT minus SoC die power)

Then add the fact that Zen2/3 chips are off-center, and then it's gonna be toastier. Unless one's AM4 motherboard can fit an offset bracket (like Arctic's or Der8auer's).

This post has been edited by yimingwuzere: Feb 19 2021, 02:50 PM

Guys, is it worth to upgrade from B450 to B550? im using R5 3600.

Not worth unless there are features that you want.

not worth... was the worst decision ive ever made, it doesnt solve any stability issues (if you have any) and CPU and memory performance is identical.. the only gain is pcie Gen4 for GPU and NVME and some boards will have the more recent wifi6.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3608349/ryz...the-claims.html

PCWorld talks to an unnamed hardware vendor:

Ryzen 5000 series fails at 2.9 percent.
Ryzen 3000 series fails at 3 percent.
ThreadRipper 3000 series fails at 2.5 percent.
Intel 9th-gen fails at 0.9 percent.
Intel 10th-gen fails at 1.2 percent.

Sounds like binning is the main cause (at least for 10850K and 3990X). Also interesting to note that memory tests are done - AMD chips can be finicky sometimes in 4-slot configurations.

This post has been edited by yimingwuzere: Feb 19 2021, 04:02 PM

I believe it's higher than that for 5950x