But to be fair, at the point of time when 3600 came out, I was at lowyat initially shopping for 9400F and the spec doesnt even come close and from a value proposition.. it was the best and that's why I got the 3600 and was optimistic as I had athlon64 and phenom and they were solid.... and also at that time I had 0 knowledge about the problems with zen and zen+ and never did any prior research as I had to decide on the purchase on the spot. Also it was only a week after ryzen's launch so not many feedbacks yet.

I originally used 2666Mhz ram on the ryzen 3600 and of course, it is generally stable. Problem comes when I upgraded to 3200mhz and start to do tweaking and subsequently a 32GB kit... and with heavy usage plus installing various SDK, VM and emulators due to work from home during the pandemic makes the problems surface more and more... like for example when my code has an error when testing, it could also bsod the windows.. but this doesnt happen with intel. To the point I end up buying a used laptop to leave in office to access files via teamviewer so I can bring home my office laptop cuz I dont wanna be running on VPN with all the IP blockage at home.

I already made alot of compromises on Ryzen, and my patience have finally run thin when it affects my primary hobby of music listening so I promptly switched to intel... dont even have the patience anymore to wait for rocketlake and B560.

Cukur my audio setup has no issues on AMD.


Assuming both chips aren't lemons and they are working as specified, I'd say keep the 5900x eventhough primarily for gaming, 5800x is more than enough. But the 5900x has less issues with hot spotting and could perhaps last you longer until the next build.

it could be one of the following: kernel streaming, full file buffering on RAM, dsp compatibility, the DAC's USB interface driver, amd chipset's USB controller (which is also the PCI-E) and lastly the chipset's USB drivers.

and Im also running my huge lossless audio files from a USB external HDD so perhaps it could also be caused by the amount of traffic on the bus.... in the end they're all linked to the capability of the IF and especially IMC.


I truly cannot replicate the bsod but the only thing in common is it happens when I had music playing on the background... nevertheless, problems all solved now with the "desperate" solution of switching to intel.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Feb 17 2021, 04:27 PM

Pretty much running the same setup too, except all my music is on an SSD - lossless of course.

Logically, it's very likely the USB controller (chipset side) causing fault. But it won't make sense if the issue still occurs if you use optical out...
Well happy for you that your problems are solved regardless.

welppp my itx board doesnt have optical out.. and there are also so many unknowns so cannot blame on it cuz we dont know the cause... but generally there is something wrong in the Ryzen platform especially in parts that is used by a small percentage of users... sadly im one of them.

The best part now is, I can finally play music in screen off idle state now. On ryzen, when this idle state kicks in the DAC just produces weird noises due to usb power being cut by the chipset driver’s power management.

5900X for sure. You bought both CPU?
How much for it?

thank my lucky stars my ryzen is fine so far

I wonder any AMD noctua users here selling their intel mounting kit. PM please I lost mine.

From a gaming perspective performance gain from the 12 cores vs 8 is marginal.

What programs do you use for "working purposes"?

Got it for RM2800 kinda mark up abit for 5900x.

I got 5800x as thought no hope for my 5900x for RM2400.. sigh...

Now I'm unsure what should i do with it. If i sell my 5800 open box u think got ppl buy ?? As 5900x is mint in box. 5800x is install to my desktop.

I got MSI unify as my mother board as saw review one of best budget motherboard.

It's a seller's market. 5800X can easily be sold if it's cheaper than the others and ala carte, since most stores that have any units and not scalping will be requiring full builds.

If you're selling 5900X at RRP I will happily buy it off you

This post has been edited by yimingwuzere: Feb 18 2021, 10:44 AM

Like yimingwuzere said, all 5000 series still being sold at marked up price or bundle so easier to sell now. Later when stock plenty and price start to come back down then will be hard to sell it.

You go open up a thread at garage sale, conlanfirm within 1 hour you get PMs.

Yeah.. do u think should i switch to 5900x now and sell my 5800x or to keep 5800x and sell 5900x. Actually i am not eyeying on profit Just that now i have 2 CPU.. TT. slap face at me for going to greedy and fast for my full cpu built as my old rig got overheated and all component deep fried during cny as i overclock too much and hot weather. So gg.

Already told you, keep the 5900x.

Microsoft excel on Monte Carlo simulation . VBA with file exceeding 10 million lines with powerbi for visualization. File size for one excel is 1gb and i run multiple at same time. Means huge data crunching for analysis of database.

Then Cyber punk at Ultra level at free time with Assasin Creed Valhalla

Do you think got ppl buy 2nd hand 5800x at Rm2k . Dont mind selling it at loss but then i buy it as set. Not so sure how the buyer claim in future.

But downside is i did liquid metal already. TT

This post has been edited by timeonce: Feb 18 2021, 01:30 PM

Excel tends to not able to utilize multi threaded workloads that well and even if you have so much power at your disposal.. also better to use ECC ram as if im not mistaken, Ryzen supports it.
But generally, also expect crashing midway with such big datasets (altho 1GB is still considered small) regardless of how many cores or rams.... for this kind of workloads usually xeons are used for reliability.


So for you, just sell whichever you can scalp for the highest margin/profit which is the 5800X at the moment.

Was holding back on the 5600X purchase when it was available and price is a lot more reasonable previously. Decided to keep my 3600 a lil bit longer. Thinking maybe next month the inventory will be better. Yup... next month and next month went and gone... sigh...

Shouldn't be an issue for RM2k.

As for LM application, I'm not sure if AMD actually still receives it under warranty claim though.