I've seen Z490 boards at RM7xx-8xx price range before, but those look super dodgy. Maybe good enough for 10400 since they look useless for CPU overclocking. Even then, for the limited feature set apart from memory overclocking, it's still a bad buy vs B460 boards considering how few ports they have, not to mention other potentially downgraded features (e.g. maybe Realtek 887 instead of 1220). Was fun watching HWU roast the entry level Asrock Z490 boards for being utter garbage, and then getting blacklisted as a result of that review.

Meanwhile, still struggling to hit 3800 RAM speeds and 1:1 with IF clock with my 5800X and B550 Phantom Gaming ITX. Not sure if motherboard or BIOS issue, or maybe my CPU's IMC is a lemon. Strangely enough I can run it stable with either 1900 IF Clock or 3800 RAM in decoupled mode just fine, just not both in tandem.
Wrong thread, post in Nvidia section?

Hello,

Is it worth to upgrade from r5 3600 to r7 3700x especially for 1440 gaming?

This is a ryzen thread. Anyway, suprim card is already 9k+
Most cards now higher than their initial MSRP at launch

I've seen Z490 boards at RM7xx-8xx price range before, but those look super dodgy. Maybe good enough for 10400 since they look useless for CPU overclocking. Even then, for the limited feature set apart from memory overclocking, it's still a bad buy vs B460 boards considering how few ports they have, not to mention other potentially downgraded features (e.g. maybe Realtek 887 instead of 1220). Was fun watching HWU roast the entry level Asrock Z490 boards for being utter garbage, and then getting blacklisted as a result of that review.

Meanwhile, still struggling to hit 3800 RAM speeds and 1:1 with IF clock with my 5800X and B550 Phantom Gaming ITX. Not sure if motherboard or BIOS issue, or maybe my CPU's IMC is a lemon. Strangely enough I can run it stable with either 1900 IF Clock or 3800 RAM in decoupled mode just fine, just not both in tandem.
Wrong thread, post in Nvidia section?

no

some 700-800 z490 had bot bad vrms like the msi z490 a pro, also one model of gigabyte z490 but i forgot which model.

And since it's z490 it's easy to set any power limit that you want anyways.

mobos now both camp just port tech + upgrade from aib

x299 tech ported to x570
x570 tech ported to z490
z490 tech portrd to b550
b550/z490 ported to x570 dark hero
now all ported to z590 with $$$ for thunderbolt 4,wifi 6e

1) because of idiots in youtube/sites kept using vrm phases as "quality" .. marketing has all gine bonkers and now all expensive

2) all the prices we are seeing on on z590.. thats a good indication of zen 4 ... x670 price is gonna be like as well z690 for alderlake

3) always buy based ok bios options first and then mobo. you got to see how the implementation of oc is like on stock cpu like architecture. you want EVERY feature of stock cpu while having the ability to oc.
example asus DOS on amd and asus z490 v/f . this is what i see as a leap in bios implementation.

How about 10400? 

I still remember Asus P8Z77-M can be found at RM339 and its overclockable! I miss those days with highest end chipset at affordable prices. Now both camps going nuts with the prices due to higher VRM.

i kinda able to narrow down the crashing of my amd and it seems to be a memory related issue which is related to my audio playback and USB DAC.

Finally for once an error managed to popup from my audio player right before the pc crashes and it stated something about bad pool caller which point to my audioplayer’s directory... which is no surprise because i buffer my playlist into my ram to reduce disk io along with asio as playback output which already been giving problems from the begining.

Guess it was a combination of ryzen’s shitty memory architecture and usb interface and the lack of legacy code support that is the cause of the random crashes... which kinda explains that there are no problems under long stress tests because i never turn on the music during the tests. Never had this issue when i was using intel since core2duo to a bootcamp win10 macbook pro retina... problem only started with this ryzen.

I guess at the meantime I will have to heavily compromise by refrain from using ASIO and decreasing the file buffer size to see if it still crashes.... and then it’s goodbye AMD on the next upgrade.

Interesting, does the issue still occur if you use a lower mem speed?

Also, did you try with WASAPI output as well?

yes even at 3200 xmp it crashed before.. wasapi tend to mess up my volume mixer so i didnt use it. Currently compromising by using direct sound to monitor.

I guess this is the escalation of the usb playback device stuttering issue that happens occasionally which i mentioned last time.. This might be the underlying issue that was causing the auido stutters.. which I also noticed the cpu usage fly up to 100% and everything becomes laggy in that brief moment.

Bonchi if u r on b550/x570 u can also set pcie of ur gpu to 3.0.
that can fix quite some issues you've been describing as well.

He is using 3600.....which mean it is already using pcie 3.0 as default.

3600 and B550 supports PCIE 4.0. He's using Ampere too.

Errr....what?    B550 chipset itself only has PCIE3.0 lanes.

But his Ampere is using the PCIE3.0 from the 3600 CPU itself........

Here, check again yourself.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-5-3600

https://www.gigabyte.com/my/Motherboard/B55...RO-AX-rev-10#kf

Bonchi if u r on b550/x570 u can also set pcie of ur gpu to 3.0.
that can fix quite some issues you've been describing as well.

I remember he is using pcie gen 3 riser. unless he have upgrade.

Bonchi if u r on b550/x570 u can also set pcie of ur gpu to 3.0.
that can fix quite some issues you've been describing as well.