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 Proton Suprima S V3, Slow Turbo.. Baru V3..

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laytiong
post Mar 2 2017, 04:35 PM

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i just sent my SS for 10k kms service. had a few complaints, SA was very courteous and offer to resolve all issues.

reverse sensor not working, ordered replacement, will send it for painting before i re-visit to fix it back

krek krek noise behind instrument cluster, workshop did something, noise seems to be gone, SA offer to replace both engine n CVT mountings

best of all, i only paid RM60+ to top up to Syntium 3000 full syn due to free service offer that came with my car.

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post Mar 4 2017, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(laytiong @ Mar 2 2017, 04:35 PM)
i just sent my SS for 10k kms service. had a few complaints, SA was very courteous and offer to resolve all issues.

reverse sensor not working, ordered replacement, will send it for painting before i re-visit to fix it back

krek krek noise behind instrument cluster, workshop did something, noise seems to be gone, SA offer to replace both engine n CVT mountings

best of all, i only paid RM60+ to top up to Syntium 3000 full syn due to free service offer that came with my car.

best...
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Where did u service? I would like to try out the SC.
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post Mar 4 2017, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(merinyu @ Mar 4 2017, 03:06 PM)
Where did u service? I would like to try out the SC.
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autocity, penang
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post Mar 5 2017, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(laytiong @ Mar 4 2017, 08:04 PM)
autocity, penang
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doh.gif so far I thought it's Klang Valley. Thanks bro for the info.
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post Mar 5 2017, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(laytiong @ Mar 2 2017, 04:35 PM)
i just sent my SS for 10k kms service. had a few complaints, SA was very courteous and offer to resolve all issues.

reverse sensor not working, ordered replacement, will send it for painting before i re-visit to fix it back

krek krek noise behind instrument cluster, workshop did something, noise seems to be gone, SA offer to replace both engine n CVT mountings

best of all, i only paid RM60+ to top up to Syntium 3000 full syn due to free service offer that came with my car.

best...
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Bro what did you complaint until they offer to replace engine and CVT mounting?
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post Mar 6 2017, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(acid_head @ Mar 5 2017, 11:51 PM)
Bro what did you complaint until they offer to replace engine and CVT mounting?
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What is your car's current mileage? Try complaining from the second service onwards. I'm already on the new set.
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post Mar 6 2017, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(acid_head @ Mar 5 2017, 11:51 PM)
Bro what did you complaint until they offer to replace engine and CVT mounting?
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krek krek noise behind instrument cluster and SS does not have known issue of dashboard noise from meter panel.

QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 6 2017, 11:52 AM)
What is your car's current mileage? Try complaining from the second service onwards.  I'm already on the new set.
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8k kms
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post Mar 7 2017, 05:58 AM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Feb 21 2017, 11:11 AM)
That's not too bad considering most users reported ~10L/100km?
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This is my average fuel consumption. That was my lowest average so far, usually is around 9.8L/100KM.
Any suggestions on how to further reduce the fuel consumption will be appreciated.

PS. I do aware turbo car usually uses more fuel but sometimes, when I don't feel like in so called "racing mode", I just wanna drive in relaxed manner where I can save more fuel. 😁

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QUOTE(allan.khaw.90 @ Mar 7 2017, 05:58 AM)
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This is my average fuel consumption. That was my lowest average so far, usually is around 9.8L/100KM.
Any suggestions on how to further reduce the fuel consumption will be appreciated.

PS. I do aware turbo car usually uses more fuel but sometimes, when I don't feel like in so called "racing mode", I just wanna drive in relaxed manner where I can save more fuel. 😁
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It'll be better after the second service. Try 35/33 tyre pressure for front and rear respectively. Also, keep your acceleration rpm to max 2.5k unless you're really in a rush.

By the way, dont use your rear fog lamps (amber light on your meter) under normal driving conditions. Just use it when it's foggy, and if you're reversing in the dark. Maybe heavy rain as well if you're worried that the light bars of the car makes it look further away than it really is.
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post Mar 7 2017, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(allan.khaw.90 @ Mar 7 2017, 05:58 AM)
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This is my average fuel consumption. That was my lowest average so far, usually is around 9.8L/100KM.
Any suggestions on how to further reduce the fuel consumption will be appreciated.

PS. I do aware turbo car usually uses more fuel but sometimes, when I don't feel like in so called "racing mode", I just wanna drive in relaxed manner where I can save more fuel. 😁
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Wow not as bad as I thought haha.

Actually turbo is supposed to be more fuel efficient. E.g. 1.6 turbo should be more efficient than 2.0 NA. 1.2T more effecient that 1.6 NA etc. Look at VW Vento 1.2TSI vs 1.6NA.

But too bad Proton's CFE is just a bolt-on turbo. The engine block etc. built up is not with turbo design in mind.
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post Mar 7 2017, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Mar 7 2017, 09:26 AM)
Wow not as bad as I thought haha.

Actually turbo is supposed to be more fuel efficient. E.g. 1.6 turbo should be more efficient than 2.0 NA. 1.2T more effecient that 1.6 NA etc. Look at VW Vento 1.2TSI vs 1.6NA.

But too bad Proton's CFE is just a bolt-on turbo. The engine block etc. built up is not with turbo design in mind.
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Its more or less the same fc with a 2.0 4B11.. i drove both extensively...

Nice read

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Although based on the existing engine family, retaining many of the key features like bore size, block height, cam positions etc, the vast majority of the components were replaced or modified in some way.


Views of the Campro engine
One fundamental change was a reduction in stroke from 88 mm to 86 mm.  With the retained 76 mm bore, the swept volume reduced from 1,597 cc to 1,561 cc.  This was brought about by the very compact height of the existing iron cylinder block which did not provide enough space to increase the required piston strength or lower the piston crown to achieve the desired compression ratio

The compression ratio was set at 8.9:1, which although relatively low for a modern downsized engine, allows the same hardware to be used for all the target markets including those with 88 RON fuel and very hot climates without excessive retardation.

The cylinder block was based on the original Campro cast iron block. Extensive finite element analysis (FEA) showed no requirement to strengthen the casting to withstand the increased cylinder pressures. Small changes to the block were made to incorporate piston cooling jets into the oil gallery, and computational fluid dynamics (CFD) driven flow improvements into the water jacket to improve the engine cooling required for the performance increase.

A forged steel crankshaft replaced the original cast iron unit in the engine. FEA indicated that it would be possible to maintain the existing main bearing and rod bearing dimensions; however it was necessary to improve the bearing material to withstand the projected loadings.

A new piston design with a 19 mm floating piston pin to withstand the higher cylinder pressures was implemented. The cast piston incorporated an anodised top ring groove to prevent micro-welding damage with the expected high temperatures, and a scuff resistant coating applied to the piston skirts.

The changes to the piston and the increased gas pressure loading necessitated a change in connecting rod and connecting rod length. A new forged steel fracture cap design replaced the original powder metal design.

The aluminium 4 valve per cylinder DOHC Campro cylinder head was re-engineered to accept an intake cam phaser for the CFE application. This was achieved maintaining the existing cambelt location and now permits 40 crank degrees of intake cam phasing for improved performance, fuel economy and emissions.  An improved cambelt material was implemented along with an
auto-tensioner for improved serviceability.

During the cylinder head redesign, the spark plug was changed to a narrow thread, long reach design so that the spark plug boss would allow better cooling as well as a lower coolant back pressure in the cylinder head water jacket. In the same way as the cylinder block, the water jacket design actions were led by extensive up-front CFD analysis.  Through the reductions in coolant restriction developed through CFD, only a modest increase in water pump flow rate was required.

A new multiple layers steel (MLS) cylinder head gasket was developed to withstand the higher cylinder pressures.

To withstand the expected higher exhaust gas temperatures, sodium filled exhaust valves maintaining the original 5 mm stem diameter were selected.

An upgraded oil pump was also implemented to compensate for the higher demand of piston cooling jets, turbocharger bearing oil supply, and to maintain good oil pressure at low engine speed so that the intake variable valve timing (VVT) system could be operated. A water-cooled oil cooler is fitted as standard.

A Borg Warner turbocharger’s compressor and turbine were selected for maximum low speed performance. It uses a pressure regulated wastegate to control plenum pressure, and incorporated an electric integrated compressor bypass. Air from the compressor is ducted to an air to air charge-cooler mounted in the front left hand side bumper aperture.  An electrical pump which is actuated on key-off to provide coolant to the turbocharger bearing housing after engine shutdown.  This pump also circulates coolant around the rest of the coolant circuit to prevent boiling, an important feature in the high ambient temperature of Malaysia and Proton’s export markets

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post Mar 7 2017, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(allan.khaw.90 @ Mar 7 2017, 05:58 AM)
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This is my average fuel consumption. That was my lowest average so far, usually is around 9.8L/100KM.
Any suggestions on how to further reduce the fuel consumption will be appreciated.

PS. I do aware turbo car usually uses more fuel but sometimes, when I don't feel like in so called "racing mode", I just wanna drive in relaxed manner where I can save more fuel. 😁
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do you reset the average speed together during resetting the average FC?
FC seems quite high with such higher average speed...
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post Mar 8 2017, 02:09 AM

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Hi, i bought my proton supremo in 2014 july. By 2016, I've started to hear screeching noise from the brakes. many times proton dealer recommended to just do skimming.

Now they say need to replace brake rotors front and rear + brake pad front and rear at RM 764.80.

Can i know if anyone faced this similar issue? Could it be a defective rotor, since this is a new car?
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QUOTE(jitd @ Mar 8 2017, 02:09 AM)
Hi, i bought my proton supremo in 2014 july. By 2016, I've started to hear screeching noise from the brakes. many times proton dealer recommended to just do skimming.

Now they say need to replace brake rotors front and rear + brake pad front and rear at RM 764.80.

Can i know if anyone faced this similar issue? Could it be a defective rotor, since this is a new car?
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Are your brake pads worn out? The reason they would suggest to replace the rotors is because it's worn out/damaged, and for your case I suspect damaged as a result of the brake pads being worn out and not replaced before the brake material finished. If the brake pads still have some material in them, changing the pads may be enough to solve the problem since the screeching noise is likely caused by the brake wear indicator pin.
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post Mar 9 2017, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(jitd @ Mar 8 2017, 02:09 AM)
Hi, i bought my proton supremo in 2014 july. By 2016, I've started to hear screeching noise from the brakes. many times proton dealer recommended to just do skimming.

Now they say need to replace brake rotors front and rear + brake pad front and rear at RM 764.80.

Can i know if anyone faced this similar issue? Could it be a defective rotor, since this is a new car?
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Same issue with mine. Brake noise. Sent to sc serviced (they said remove dust,cleaning and "service" the brake pad ) last me for around 2 weeks and the sound cm bck. Complaint twice at sc for the same issue.
At last tak boleh tahan, send to outside workshop. They recommended me Brendix brand. Already run for months so far so good. The most important is no more brake noise.

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QUOTE(jitd @ Mar 8 2017, 02:09 AM)
Hi, i bought my proton supremo in 2014 july. By 2016, I've started to hear screeching noise from the brakes. many times proton dealer recommended to just do skimming.

Now they say need to replace brake rotors front and rear + brake pad front and rear at RM 764.80.

Can i know if anyone faced this similar issue? Could it be a defective rotor, since this is a new car?
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RM764.80 for 4 rotors and 4 sets of brakepad? Macam cheap..
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hi all,

anyone experiencing difficulties with the bluetooth ?

mine suddenly stop working, and then after force to close i am not able to find / pair my device anymore.

any idea to solve it ?
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post Mar 9 2017, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(laytiong @ Mar 4 2017, 08:04 PM)
autocity, penang
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juru sc quality quite nice and their employees are experienced.. i like to go there.. helpful service advisor as well
laytiong
post Mar 9 2017, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(Snowcap @ Mar 9 2017, 04:29 PM)
hi all,

anyone experiencing difficulties with the bluetooth ?

mine suddenly stop working, and then after force to close i am not able to find / pair my device anymore.

any idea to solve it ?
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you may try to ask for f/w update to your HU. I experienced same problem and once updated, my BT is working again.
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QUOTE(laytiong @ Mar 9 2017, 07:25 PM)
you may try to ask for f/w update to your HU. I experienced same problem and once updated, my BT is working again.
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going to SC tomorrow.
but my place over here small SC only.

last time they also unable to fix my reverse sensor cry.gif

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