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 Proton Suprima S V3, Slow Turbo.. Baru V3..

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post Oct 16 2016, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(Volt @ Oct 16 2016, 04:57 AM)
Have anyone experience slightly lower engine respond after few years driving the car?
Because I noticed my car doesnt accelerate as quickly as before. Now days i need to press the gas a lil bit more if i wanted to overtake a car. The car seem to struggle if I drive pass 140kmph. Is it because my car already reach 105k km? Do you guys think it would help improve the respond if i service the turbo? I have already complain the issue to proton SC before but they told me nothing wrong with the car.
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Have you ever done any form of throttle/turbo cleaning with e.g. Threebond? Do you have an Oil Catch Tank (non re-circulating set-up) installed? If it's no to both, then get both of them done. First one will get rid of the gunk in the turbo unit, intercooler and throttle body if you spray Threebond through the Turbo. Second option will (or should) stop oil from collecting in the turbo and subsequently the intercooler and throttle body. Especially good if you like to go heavy on the throttle.

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post Oct 23 2016, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(spades6 @ Oct 23 2016, 05:40 AM)
My cruise control lever broke just few mins after leaving showroom.  Called sc n returned car to complain but sc qc manager said it's damage by force n basically blamed me for breaking it so no warranty.  Was upset n told the sales rep n was told to call proton icare n complain. I told them I could have bought a Honda civic but wanted to support local industry so frustrated.  Long story short it was changed immediately. I was wondering why d lever was so soft so yeah looks like it's a quality issue. It costs bout rm50 anyway.
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I got mine replaced recently. Now just waiting for my seat replacement after proving that it has noise. Might have to return for another time though after replacing the base since I believe that the backrest is also exhibiting a bit of the same noise. Protong doesn't want to replace the entire seat in one go, plus their supplier isn't producing enough seats at the moment. Besides this, I've gotten almost every issue I had with the car solved. I also got my driver door re-aligned to reduce the gap during the last visit, and I'll probably get them to look at my boot's gap when I return for the seat replacement.
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post Oct 24 2016, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(Otic @ Oct 23 2016, 10:23 PM)
Bro..how much u install the oil catch tank?
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RM315 with installation
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post Oct 24 2016, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(xphr3ak @ Oct 24 2016, 01:21 PM)
Seems you too have the same problem as mine (Prevé).
But they didn't do anything (SC Jalan Mantin, Seremban).
May I know what they did and which SC?

Thanks.
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Centre of Excellence. You don't have to bring it here though. Just tell the SC to adjust the door striker. I'm not sure who did mine though since I remember someone driving my car off to somewhere but not into the parking lot or out of CoE. Perhaps they brought it to the B&P section.

Edit: Driving off to somewhere with the door still miss aligned, and coming back with it fixed

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post Oct 26 2016, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(eujin @ Oct 24 2016, 03:30 PM)
Hi all Suprima drivers, I owned a Suprima car too. Anyone experienced when you accelerate, the sound come from the aircond part or dashboard sound? something like vibrating sound. What's the problme actually?
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I also face rather excessive vibrations when accelerating a little bit harder after a stop or close to a stop especially up a hill. For now I take it as one of unfortunate things we have to accept for this car unless it's actually not supposed to be like this. Perhaps you could bring it to a service centre and ask them to look at the engine/transmission mounting for you.

QUOTE(Snowcap @ Oct 24 2016, 05:10 PM)
i had the same issue but rattling sound at boot area.  rclxub.gif
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Might be caused by the boot cover/board. There should be 2 to 4 rubber pieces that were pasted onto the boot cover/board from the factory. They are very poorly stuck on though due to the chosen surface, so perhaps they've dropped off somewhere. Don't know which idiot decided to stick the rubber pieces onto the board. If it doesn't sound like the boot cover/board rattling against the plastic surface it's on, perhaps try playing around with the folding rear seats.
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QUOTE(acid_head @ Oct 30 2016, 09:47 AM)
Wanna ask whether Suprima intercooling system reliable for travel long distance. Assuming travel to Alor Setar then back to KL again, not racing speed... constant 110 km/hr
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Intercooler = lowers the intake air temperature before it goes into the throttle body.

Suprima's cooling system should be reliable. If you're worried about the turbo, just leave the car idling with the air-cond set to the coldest setting (and wind the window down) for at least 2 to 3 minutes after travelling for an extended period of time. This keeps the oil circulating throughout the engine and turbo, and it'll keep the radiator fan running as well.
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QUOTE(Otic @ Oct 29 2016, 11:03 PM)
Hi...anyone of u encounter when after I reverse my car and wanted to drive/move the car.. it feel like the car wanted to die. After smooth drive away it will be back to normal. Is this sign of CVT prblm ? =/
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http://service.punchpowertrain.com/product...il1e/id/79.html

Look up EA Autoworks on Facebook and look in their Notes section. You'll see something about Clutch Adaptation as well.

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post Oct 30 2016, 01:16 PM

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https://www.facebook.com/zordaqmotorsports/...288035461230970

One less thing to worry about. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 1 2016, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(amribakri @ Nov 1 2016, 07:39 AM)
Hello guys

My journey so far after 15k km on premium red
- got immidiate 2013 ty re change, harrass sa about all safety doesnt count if tyre go burst/failed/skid
- now using michelin ps4 @front 32psi ventus v2 @rear 30psi can do 100kmh+ any corner
- using Syntium 3000 is best. 1000 also good but 7000 is too much for ss
- engine run smoother after 10k or maybe engine oil finally matching the engine needs

Do n Dont
-  put small pillow at trunk top panel/cover - no more rattling sound
- wait engine to be hot enough b4 going full throtle. Hotter engine oil helps ur turbo to run smoother
- when hud seems stuck/hang (not the error msg) at clock, press navi button.it will lauch the gps, then press home. Now radio will work

Overall car is alot of fun to drive. Stable at high speed n corners. Braking with confident. Easy to mod also
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How much is the ps4?
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QUOTE(amribakri @ Nov 1 2016, 12:23 PM)
A pair of 215/45/17 cost me rm880. Free hispeed balancing. Traded achiles for rm100 each
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Rm440 per piece? Much cheaper than expected. hmm.gif

QUOTE(Otic @ Nov 1 2016, 12:37 PM)
Thanks for the sharing.
This will be replacement for the whole unit, right ?
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I guess.

QUOTE(Otic @ Nov 1 2016, 12:39 PM)
Clutch adaption required special tools or computer to perform the adaption?
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Nothing. As simple as shifting between and waiting in R, N and D.
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QUOTE(amribakri @ Nov 1 2016, 03:01 PM)
Sometimes when car stop after long journey with mid to high speed, can hear hissing sound from engine.is that normal or some hose start to leak gas/vapor?

No oil or watery stain on thr floor. Anyone had this issue?
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I think what you're hearing is the operation of the electric water pump.

QUOTE(Otic @ Nov 1 2016, 11:02 PM)
I tried...follow the procedure from the shared link. Like no different. @@
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hmm.gif Bring it to a SC and ask them to check the gearbox I guess.
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Has anyone observed their DRLs in operation? I just noticed that my left lamp's DRL colour is slightly more towards blue/green whilst the right side is white. doh.gif Already did the conversion to Osram Xenarc HIDs so I'm gonna have to swap out the bulbs and the dust cover in case I decide to pursue this.

Asked an expert about this and apparently it's quite a normal occurrence. sweat.gif Their brightness still seem to be the same though. I really can't believe I didn't notice the difference until now as I always leave my car idling when I reach my office. Maybe it deteriorated over time..

Edit: Took a look from far and up close again, and the brightness is certainly the same, just that the left lamp has a cool temperature look whilst the right is warm. I guess I'll just leave it since it isn't exactly an eyesore.

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Decided to send an email to protong about my DRLs. Hopefully they'll be able to solve this for me as I can't stop thinking about the colour difference.

QUOTE(mystvearn @ Nov 4 2016, 08:59 PM)
They replace with metal is it?? My free replacement was same material. Can get free replacement?
I am using Syntium 1000. I think it is enough. I only do about 7k km/year so I guess it is underutilised.
I never knew pressing the navi button will solve it. Will try next time.

2 more years until finish warranty.
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I don't know, but I certainly hope that the replacement is free since it's their fault in the first place.

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Edit: The left headlamp DRL may look nicer in the picture above, but in real and up close they look a bit dimmer than the right and not so even as well.




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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Nov 5 2016, 09:22 PM)
I see. About the drl thing, is it part of the lighting system where one side is brighter than the other side? For safety reasons and you don't blind opposite traffic.

On another note, got RM 8k discount for ss now. Saw in proton fb page. I noticed the rims are different. Even the skirting is different tone colour.
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Both look bright from a distance and on camera. My problem now is basically about the DRL's colour difference and potentially brightness as well, where the left headlamp DRL is slightly more blue from far and slightly blue/green and less even and bright up close, and the right headlamp's DRL having a pure warm white colour which seems to be correct one. I've watched the video I posted earlier and some others, and their DRLs have the same colour. It's easier to see the colour difference in person. Now that I think about it, I believe the problem was there since the day I got the car, but I probably brushed it off as I thought it was due to angle, plus it's a little hard to look at both DRLs at the same time.


Edit: I don't believe this is to prevent people from getting blinded since they go dim once the low beams are on, plus they're supposed to be noticeable during day time anyway. If the colour difference is due to the angle, I think it would make sense if the right headlamp's DRL also becomes bluer at a certain angle, but it's not the case for my car. bangwall.gif Now I'm just waiting for protong to reply my email, plus I've also already book a slot at CoE to get the thing inspected.

Edit: More pictures

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QUOTE(eujin @ Nov 16 2016, 11:42 AM)
Hello, anyone has changed the brake pad of suprima? is it comes with a set? and brake pad doesn't include in the car warranty?
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I think Protong will only replace the brake pads if you're having problems like squeaking, juddering etc. Brake pad is not covered for wear and tear.
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QUOTE(Otic @ Nov 20 2016, 07:57 PM)
Guys... anyone of u notice the headlamp for suprima kinda low? Not bright enough to drive during night time. I plan to install 100w bulb for headlamp and foglamp but afraid it will burn the bulb connector or wire? Anyone here experience this before ?
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I find it sufficiently bright with high performance halogen bulbs like the Philips Xtreme Vision +130%. It's much better with HID (I'm currently using 4200K Osram Xenarc). In terms of light pattern I don't see any difference in height, and don't really recall the beam length vs the Xtreme Vision +130%, but it's very good for me.

Edit: The problem with the original bulbs is that they're too yellow and dim. I drove my car out of the dealership at 8pm onto a street with no street lights and could barely see much.

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Went to the SC today to check on a few things including my DRLs. Still no stock for seat, so nothing was replaced today. They ordered the LHS headlamp for me, so now I just need to wait for them to call.

QUOTE(Otic @ Nov 21 2016, 08:25 PM)
Yes. Exactly.  I can't even see my light when drive around 7 or 8pm. LOL...

Btw, how much u installed the osram xenarc? It's HID type right ?
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RM650 at EA Autoworks, and yes, it is HID.


Edit: For anyone who's looking to switch to HIDs as well but cannot decide on the colour, 4200K still has some yellow in it (when viewed from inside the car). From outside it's white. Depending on the time of the day it could either be pure white or white with slight hints of yellow. The ideal colour for me is probably between 4400K~ 5000K, but too bad EA Auto only carries 4200K and 6000K HIDs.

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QUOTE(Klemann C @ Nov 27 2016, 07:19 PM)
Today had a drive with full 100% throttle flattened.
Still engine rpm struggles to push up to 5k....

The engine wasn't react this way when it was fairly new last time...just recently started feels weird engine power dropped the moment turbo kicks in after passing 2.5k rpm.

Gearbox gear downshift also feel very linear compared to last time (slightly more aggressive).

Fly by wires throttle does have memory throttling input driving style?
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I don't remember hearing loud turbo spooling noise when accelerating over 5k rpm. Might want to bring your car to be inspected.

Edit: Also the rpm should go over 5k easily if you push hard.
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Saw a silver suprima s today on the federal to pj/kl with a non functioning right drl unsure.gif I wonder if it's disconnected or defective hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Dec 2 2016, 11:29 PM)
Mind share what temperature of hid bulb did you go with? Does 4300k match well with the drl? Would also like to know will installing OCT void the warranty?
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I went with 4200k. It still has some yellow in it and will not always be as white as the DRLs. Not always because mine can also appear to be completely white depending on the time and weather.

I believe that the ideal temperature should be around 4500k to 5000k if you want it to match the DRLs.

Edit: not sure about the Oct because I haven't done my second service, but I don't expect it to be a problem.

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QUOTE(a5un4k @ Dec 6 2016, 02:15 PM)
how is it comfortable for you? i find that i do not have enough legroom. shakehead.gif so im guessing its a stiff ride then?
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Stiffer than say a Honda City or Toyota Vios. It's still comfortable to me. I think the car would be ideal for you if it has telescopic steering. For me it'd be telescopic steering and electric seat for the minute adjustments.

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