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olivechong
post Jun 20 2016, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 20 2016, 02:18 PM)

post in skyactiv m3 group in fb then no need censor plate lor brows.gif
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Haha, the fb group still a lot ppl ma~~
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post Jun 20 2016, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(toonny @ Jun 20 2016, 02:12 PM)
I think he want the oil balance after the service. So far I only been to service twice (1k and 10k). Sg. Besi branch does not give back the remaining new EO. But 10K service at Equine park, they returned the remaining oil in the 1 litre pack.
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You mean new engine oil? How much oil they return to you?

QUOTE(olivechong @ Jun 20 2016, 02:13 PM)
I think what he mean is, the new bottle of engine oil, and what ever is left after changing, the unused oil left in the bottle, not old engine oil~ If perodua Glenmarie, they give back the remaining engine oil with it's original bottle without needed to request. So somehow there's some proof that they did change your engine oil, and that almost empty bottle is the proof.
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Ok la if that's what they want to prove themselves. But still doesn't prove that bottle of engine oil was indeed poured into your car, could be any empty bottle around their tong sampah...oh well, conspiracy theories aside, i'll just trust them in doing their thing since it is warranted and part of their free service package.

As for the Honda case, i think it is a genuine oversight of the staff there. If it is really prevalent here regardless of car brand, that means the companies here are really shit head in the business ethics and moralities.

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post Jun 20 2016, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 20 2016, 02:04 PM)
You use paddle shift means you engage manual mode. It is called manual mode for a reason, meaning, the computer won't do the job for you until you input what you want. It applies to recent models of mercedes and bmw also which i test drove before.

It will last about 5 seconds. If you reached the speed or complete your maneuver, upshift manually to lower down the engine RPM. There's nothing wrong with the car at all. If you think it is not fast enough, do it with the gear shifter, that one very direct the moment you push out of manual mode.
Why do you want remaining engine oil back? They all pour exact amount (5L) into the oil sump after draining. They already give you free engine oil, some more want to ask more??

If you want your old engine oil back, please tell them so, but very unlikely they will allow you as it is messy and well go against their SOP and 5S procedure. Service centres (even neighbourhood workshops) will use a giant oil catch tank when they drain out the oil so in the end of the day, they can drain out that tank to recycle vendor.

Unless you're into used oil analysis (which is extremely rare for normal motorist here and i can quite confidently say in this region other than large commercial fleet companies), there's no point for you keeping the old oil. If you die die want to have the old oil, the service technician can simply just pump the oil from the oil catch tank and give it to you, which already mix with maybe 20 cars/trucks worth of used oil. No way to ascertain that used oil is the one drained from your car.

*correction : for outside workshop, most likely you can witness them do the service on your car. So less risk of them skipping your car's servicing unless you're away.

And how are you going to dispose it properly? The SC/workshops at least will liase with those oil recycling vendor to collect.

If really cannot trust the service centre, then either you request you be present to witness when they service your car (which they most likely won't allow) or do service DIY style on your own (not outside workshop as the same situation stated above applies).
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Soli ah, should be pedal instead of paddle.. rclxs0.gif

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post Jun 20 2016, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 20 2016, 02:27 PM)
You mean new engine oil? How much oil they return to you?
Ok la if that's what they want to prove themselves. But still doesn't prove that bottle of engine oil was indeed poured into your car, could be any empty bottle around their tong sampah...oh well, conspiracy theories aside, i'll just trust them in doing their thing since it is warranted and part of their free service package.

As for the Honda case, i think it is a genuine oversight of the staff there. If it is really prevalent here regardless of car brand, that means the companies here are really shit head in the business ethics and moralities.

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Haha~ since i din request, they also return, i assume that they return it back to every customers, including old parts. So if every customer they also return back the remaining engine oil, it's difficult for them to look for empty engine oil bottles den~
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post Jun 20 2016, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(SK_C @ Jun 20 2016, 02:28 PM)
Soli ah, should be pedal instead of paddle..  rclxs0.gif
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QUOTE(olivechong @ Jun 20 2016, 02:33 PM)
Haha~ since i din request, they also return, i assume that they return it back to every customers, including old parts. So if every customer they also return back the remaining engine oil, it's difficult for them to look for empty engine oil bottles den~
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In Perodua, you pay for the servicing right? So it should be rightful for them to give back whatever unused item as they charge you in whole Litres of the engine oil.

But if Mazda, with free oil, and still do that, almost charity leh....unless you opt for the fully synthetic oil that must pay la...probably will return about half a litre back to you...
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post Jun 20 2016, 02:38 PM

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Do you guys usually top up extra for fully syn engine oi during the free service?
Would the semi syn provided for the free servicing do any harm in long run?
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post Jun 20 2016, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(olivechong @ Jun 20 2016, 02:27 PM)
Haha, the fb group still a lot ppl ma~~
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most of us dont censor our plate also, too lazy already and since both the group is closed group and member who join has gone through admin screening so it is relatively safe, if those vios club or myvi club then have to be careful la tongue.gif

sometime we will even take picture of member's car and post to the group if we see them with the club sticker, just like what i did to toony that day laugh.gif

QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 20 2016, 02:27 PM)
You mean new engine oil? How much oil they return to you?
Ok la if that's what they want to prove themselves. But still doesn't prove that bottle of engine oil was indeed poured into your car, could be any empty bottle around their tong sampah...oh well, conspiracy theories aside, i'll just trust them in doing their thing since it is warranted and part of their free service package.

As for the Honda case, i think it is a genuine oversight of the staff there. If it is really prevalent here regardless of car brand, that means the companies here are really shit head in the business ethics and moralities.

I give them my  puke.gif  puke.gif  puke.gif
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it seems like when the sales volume increase = quality goes down

those staff need to have self discipline and ethics, but how many really has that kind of mindset shakehead.gif

just like last time my vios got accident, they changed a new headlight, but the headlight clip is not completely fit and after a while got water vapor inside the headlight, the other side is the original headlight that is already 10 years old also dont have this problem, and if inspect closely, the design of the new headlight is slightly different, the clipping point also different and can never be fit perfectly, i suspect they use some clone headlight on my car but i also lazy to argue with them already since i need my car back urgently...totally hopeless
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post Jun 20 2016, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 20 2016, 02:38 PM)
doh.gif  doh.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
In Perodua, you pay for the servicing right? So it should be rightful for them to give back whatever unused item as they charge you in whole Litres of the engine oil.

But if Mazda, with free oil, and still do that, almost charity leh....unless you opt for the fully synthetic oil that must pay la...probably will return about half a litre back to you...
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we need 5L of engine oil right? if i'm not mistaken mazda engine oil come with 4L bottle, so to refill the engine oil of m3 we need 2 bottle, if give back the extra bottle of engine oil that would be 3L worth of engine oil already
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post Jun 20 2016, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 20 2016, 02:27 PM)
You mean new engine oil? How much oil they return to you?
Ok la if that's what they want to prove themselves. But still doesn't prove that bottle of engine oil was indeed poured into your car, could be any empty bottle around their tong sampah...oh well, conspiracy theories aside, i'll just trust them in doing their thing since it is warranted and part of their free service package.

As for the Honda case, i think it is a genuine oversight of the staff there. If it is really prevalent here regardless of car brand, that means the companies here are really shit head in the business ethics and moralities.

I give them my  puke.gif  puke.gif  puke.gif
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Haha i think you over analyzed my post bro, i was just referring to the remaining new engine oil so that at least i can make the assumption that they poured it into my engine. But yeah, u can argue that maybe they poured it into their own tank and sell it later in the black market. If that's really what they are doing, then ok, tough luck biggrin.gif

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post Jun 20 2016, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 20 2016, 02:42 PM)
it seems like when the sales volume increase = quality goes down

those staff need to have self discipline and ethics, but how many really has that kind of mindset shakehead.gif

just like last time my vios got accident, they changed a new headlight, but the headlight clip is not completely fit and after a while got water vapor inside the headlight, the other side is the original headlight that is already 10 years old also dont have this problem, and if inspect closely, the design of the new headlight is slightly different, the clipping point also different and can never be fit perfectly, i suspect they use some clone headlight on my car but i also lazy to argue with them already since i need my car back urgently...totally hopeless
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That means the service supervisor just do box ticking instead of properly checking the work done and signing off the service.

QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 20 2016, 02:45 PM)
we need 5L of engine oil right? if i'm not mistaken mazda engine oil come with 4L bottle, so to refill the engine oil of m3 we need 2 bottle, if give back the extra bottle of engine oil that would be 3L worth of engine oil already
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Need 4L+ not exactly 5.

For free service, if like that....wa...charity meh...give you 3L back....

They got 1L small bottles also la...but most likely, i think they just buy bulk 4L pack or maybe in large drum and measure roughly 5L out.
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QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 20 2016, 02:45 PM)
we need 5L of engine oil right? if i'm not mistaken mazda engine oil come with 4L bottle, so to refill the engine oil of m3 we need 2 bottle, if give back the extra bottle of engine oil that would be 3L worth of engine oil already
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So it means all Mazda SC dun give back remaining engine oil?
How about the old parts that have been replaced?
Just asking first, coz i think good to know when i do my 1k service later.
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QUOTE(olivechong @ Jun 20 2016, 03:01 PM)
So it means all Mazda SC dun give back remaining engine oil?
How about the old parts that have been replaced?
Just asking first, coz i think good to know when i do my 1k service later.
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I din get remaining oil. Old parts wont giving back as well. I think if you ask for it they will giving back maybe.
Those part can be sell as scrap and I guess for now, the used parts might need to send back to HQ? I'm not sure.
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QUOTE(aimeh @ Jun 20 2016, 03:04 PM)
I din get remaining oil. Old parts wont giving back as well. I think if you ask for it they will giving back maybe.
Those part can be sell as scrap and I guess for now, the used parts might need to send back to HQ? I'm not sure.
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i got mine back though.. just did my 20k service last week
Engine oil and a/c filter.
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QUOTE(olivechong @ Jun 20 2016, 03:01 PM)
So it means all Mazda SC dun give back remaining engine oil?
How about the old parts that have been replaced?
Just asking first, coz i think good to know when i do my 1k service later.
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For me, none. Go in empty handed, go back also empty handed tongue.gif

QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Jun 20 2016, 03:05 PM)
i got mine back though.. just did my 20k service last week
Engine oil and a/c filter.
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You use fully synthetic option or the free oil package?
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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Jun 20 2016, 03:05 PM)
i got mine back though.. just did my 20k service last week
Engine oil and a/c filter.
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Maybe I didn't ask for it. But I feel is ok. Cause as for new car, the engine oil should be just decrease a bit before the next service. If my car is more than 5 years then I will request for it as might need to add-up before the next service.
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QUOTE(olivechong @ Jun 20 2016, 03:01 PM)
So it means all Mazda SC dun give back remaining engine oil?
How about the old parts that have been replaced?
Just asking first, coz i think good to know when i do my 1k service later.
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Since the service is free I don't think they are obliged to give back the remaining engine oil. They can combine the remaining engine oil to use for other cars.

Replacement of parts is a different story. If you are being charged for the part they should return you the old part to prove it has been replaced.
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Jun 20 2016, 03:12 PM)
Since the service is free I don't think they are obliged to give back the remaining engine oil. They can combine the remaining engine oil to use for other cars.

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QUOTE(SK_C @ Jun 20 2016, 02:27 PM)
this should have nothing to do with transmission. Just the pedal, and response in engine combustion...
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Disagree with your statement.
Skyactiv Drive

This gearbox is somehow different with the conventional torque converter gearbox.

hahaha.. to be honest, I personally think the gearbox is awesome.
Skyactiv comes in as a package to offer you a better driving experience. So, every part has its own contribution to make it a good ride. Hope bro you don't feel offended ya, just sharing the info I previously did before I committed to this car.. Cheers~




QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 20 2016, 02:27 PM)
You mean new engine oil? How much oil they return to you?

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Yew, new engine oil. Should be around +- half bottle of 1 litre pack.
I serviced with the free oil they provided.
SC at Taman Equine.

This post has been edited by toonny: Jun 20 2016, 03:31 PM
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post Jun 20 2016, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(aimeh @ Jun 20 2016, 03:11 PM)
Maybe I didn't ask for it. But I feel is ok. Cause as for new car, the engine oil should be just decrease a bit before the next service. If my car is more than 5 years then I will request for it as might need to add-up before the next service.
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Jun 20 2016, 03:12 PM)
Since the service is free I don't think they are obliged to give back the remaining engine oil. They can combine the remaining engine oil to use for other cars.

Replacement of parts is a different story. If you are being charged for the part they should return you the old part to prove it has been replaced.
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So if we want to check whether the engine oil/ parts have been changed, to avoid incident like Honda, we have to open it up ourselves to check?
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QUOTE(SK_C @ Jun 20 2016, 02:27 PM)
this should have nothing to do with transmission. Just the pedal, and response in engine combustion...
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It's the program. When you drive aggressively, the gearbox will hold the lower gear for a while longer after you lift so that you have immediate power when you put your foot down again.

You might also have noticed the car doesn't shift up as eagerly when you're in the middle of a turn. This is to avoid upsetting the balance of the car through the turn.

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