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post Jan 22 2006, 02:25 AM, updated 19y ago

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This thread is for consultation regarding temperature issues which includes:
- cpu temp
- system temp
- gpu temp
- chipset temp
- hdd temp
...regardless any brand of parts you are using.

Strictly discuss about your temperature issues. Others may help/suggest the solution.

If you just want to ask about what cooler is suitable, refer to existing "Air Cooling Thread" or "Watercooling Thread".

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post Nov 14 2006, 04:22 PM

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Guys .. my pc suddenly gone so hot ..
lol !
my proc is now 47 degree wit a scythe infinity hsf + AS5 .. previously 36 - 38
and chipset 50 degree wit a dfi stockfan .. previously 40 to 47 like that ..
all fans are in full speed ..
why like that ar ???
what happen ?
suddenly i woke up from sleep i realise the temp so high .
i din even start oc yet ..
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hmm what casing u using now...any different with be4 regarding the wayer inside the casing...cos wayer inside the casing might cos bad air flow...
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post Nov 14 2006, 04:55 PM

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i m using centurion 5 ..
duno whats wrong also..
i think before i never close my sidepanel ..
now i close edy suddenly so hot ..
now proc and chipset 52 degrees d

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post Nov 14 2006, 06:37 PM

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Look at the processor uses...

Does it run at high percentage?

If it does, then maybe u're pc has been affected by Virus... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Nov 14 2006, 04:55 PM)
i m using centurion 5 ..
duno whats wrong also..
i think before i never close my sidepanel ..
now i close edy suddenly so hot ..
now proc and chipset 52 degrees d
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ermmm mine used to get high due to poor airflow i guess its time to switch to active cooling i guess.
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QUOTE(styloe @ Nov 17 2006, 11:34 PM)
ermmm mine used to get high due to poor airflow i guess its time to switch to active cooling i guess.
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Going for Water Cooling ka styloe? brows.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 18 2006, 01:12 AM)
Going for Water Cooling ka styloe? brows.gif
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No la gila!!!Wanna save for my future wife later maa....i cant hump my pc all my life laugh.gif

#dude sowi cant come to ur house no transport also the maxis line like hell tried to call and sms cant sent stupid mad.gif
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QUOTE(styloe @ Nov 18 2006, 01:26 AM)
No la gila!!!Wanna save for my future wife later maa....i cant hump my pc all my life laugh.gif

#dude sowi cant come to ur house no transport also the maxis line like hell tried to call and sms cant sent stupid mad.gif
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Woot!!!

One more forumer to follow ikan semilang's step, saving money for getting married... laugh.gif

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post Nov 18 2006, 05:36 AM

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yeah...married more important.hardly to change life partner rather than change system component...give priority to most important thing blush.gif
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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Nov 14 2006, 04:22 PM)
Guys .. my pc suddenly gone so hot ..
lol !
my proc is now 47 degree wit a scythe infinity hsf + AS5 .. previously 36 - 38
and chipset 50 degree wit a dfi stockfan .. previously 40 to 47 like that ..
all fans are in full speed ..
why like that ar ???
what happen ?
suddenly i woke up from sleep i realise the temp so high .
i din even start oc yet ..
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so bro any updates>?
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post Nov 18 2006, 08:19 PM

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Actually, my cpu temp idle is 47C and full load is 63c. I jz recently installed scythe 1000p ninja plus. I am using P4 2.8E. I use back the original 120mm fans which is 1200rpm. Then wat is my problem? so hot one? I am using artic silver 5 also.
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i'm not really sure ..
i used pc wizard 2006 , and it shows my proc is at 47 degrees ..
but when i restart and go to bios ,
it shows my proc as 37 degrees ..
its just so blurr ..
i dun know what actually happened .
lol ! but as i know , my pc is very stable and its as if nothing actually happens ..
maybe the burning proc is actually gonna go for some hibernating processors ? lol !
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QUOTE(hahaha85 @ Nov 18 2006, 08:19 PM)
Actually, my cpu temp idle is 47C and full load is 63c. I jz recently installed scythe 1000p ninja plus. I am using P4 2.8E. I use back the original 120mm fans which is 1200rpm. Then wat is my problem? so hot one? I am using artic silver 5 also.
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well prescot temp shud be high.maybe u put too much AS5 i guess?1.2k is kinda slow tho.
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post Nov 18 2006, 08:46 PM

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If i change the fan to above 5k rpm...the temp will drop or not? coz i put at my table fan facing the cpu, the cpu temp does not change....
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QUOTE(conchunchun @ Nov 18 2006, 08:46 PM)
If i change the fan to above 5k rpm...the temp will drop or not? coz i put at my table fan facing the cpu, the cpu temp does not change....
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no need for that just get those fans with good cfm like Vizo perhap.not too loud but has a good airflow
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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Nov 18 2006, 08:21 PM)
i'm not really sure ..
i used pc wizard 2006 , and it shows my proc is at 47 degrees ..
but when i restart and go to bios ,
it shows my proc as 37 degrees ..
its just so blurr ..
i dun know what actually happened .
lol ! but as i know , my pc is very stable and its as if nothing actually happens ..
maybe the burning proc is actually gonna go for some hibernating processors ? lol !
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thats weird mine not far off actually in my bios my temp is higher than in window.ermmm strange rclxub.gif
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post Nov 18 2006, 10:49 PM

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aiyo then how ? duno which one to trust .. LOL !
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If ur mobo comes with MOBO utility software such as Asus, Gigabyte and MSI ... u could try it out ... usually it support temperature and fan monitoring..

or maybe u should clean up the heatsink and the fans.... after that apply a thin and even layer of AS5....


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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Nov 18 2006, 10:49 PM)
aiyo then how ? duno which one to trust .. LOL !
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I've heard that Speedfan and TAT is the best, but me myself never tried those software before...

Maybe u should try using either one of those... wink.gif
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post Nov 19 2006, 08:29 AM

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try edy la ... ur the one that ask me to download speedfan wert ..
lol !!
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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Nov 19 2006, 08:29 AM)
try edy la ... ur the one that ask me to download speedfan wert ..
lol !!
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speedfan is kinda inaccurate.TAT is kinda a tad higher than actual temp so maybe core temp?like TAT,coretemp can use for c2d,single like mine cant use.

another thing that can make ur temp a tad higher due to overtime heat is accumulated in ur casing.u cant possibly remove all the heat.maybe a few good fan with good cfm.i like vantec @ Vizo coz nice to look and good cfm.some forumers says its loud but i think not that loudla if compared to nidec beta5 and tornado sweat.gif
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QUOTE(styloe @ Nov 19 2006, 11:55 AM)
speedfan is kinda inaccurate.TAT is kinda a tad higher than actual temp so maybe core temp?like TAT,coretemp can use for c2d,single like mine cant use.

another thing that can make ur temp a tad higher due to overtime heat is accumulated in ur casing.u cant possibly remove all the heat.maybe a few good fan with good cfm.i like vantec @ Vizo coz nice to look and good cfm.some forumers says its loud but i think not that loudla if compared to nidec beta5 and tornado sweat.gif
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im using Vizo...its kinda loud like vacuum cleaner.coz it run in high rpm.about 5000 above....but good cfm thumbup.gif

maybe you can see some demo in some shop about this fan...i bought it at last PC fair... biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(id86 @ Nov 20 2006, 02:56 AM)
im using Vizo...its kinda loud like vacuum cleaner.coz it run in high rpm.about 5000 above....but good cfm thumbup.gif

maybe you can see some demo in some shop about this fan...i bought it at last PC fair... biggrin.gif
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Owh tat wan ka?like some vacum cleaner.for me vantec spectrum just enuff.that wan too loud even for me. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(styloe @ Nov 20 2006, 03:20 AM)
Owh tat wan ka?like some vacum cleaner.for me vantec spectrum just enuff.that wan too loud even for me. sweat.gif
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maybe to make things simple,can we just put the vacuum cleaner to suck out hot air from our cpu????

as loud as the fan rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(styloe @ Nov 20 2006, 03:20 AM)
Owh tat wan ka?like some vacum cleaner.for me vantec spectrum just enuff.that wan too loud even for me. sweat.gif
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the vantec spectrum and the vizo UV LED fans are EXACTLY the same. just branding and packaging diff only.

i think id86 is talking about the 80mm version... that one the vantec spectrum or vizo both oso same...annoyingly noisy
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agree with him.... the VIZO is Vantev with new brand name ... the same performance and noise level....

somehow it would be nice if the RPM could be lowered down .... it push lots of CFM...
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 21 2006, 10:57 AM)
the vantec spectrum and the vizo UV LED fans are EXACTLY the same. just branding and packaging diff only.

i think id86 is talking about the 80mm version... that one the vantec spectrum or vizo  both oso same...annoyingly noisy
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im using 2*80mm doesnt bother me but just installed 90mm on my side panels dual bearing its deafanning huhu sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 21 2006, 10:57 AM)
the vantec spectrum and the vizo UV LED fans are EXACTLY the same. just branding and packaging diff only.

i think id86 is talking about the 80mm version... that one the vantec spectrum or vizo  both oso same...annoyingly noisy
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Err, which size?

I'm using 120MM and 92MM Vantec Spectrum UVLed fans...

3 120MM, and 1 92MM, all the 3 120MM fans are kinda quiet, but the 92MM is some kind of noisy... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 21 2006, 06:59 PM)
Err, which size?

I'm using 120MM and 92MM Vantec Spectrum UVLed fans...

3 120MM, and 1 92MM, all the 3 120MM fans are kinda quiet, but the 92MM is some kind of noisy... sweat.gif
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even chapalang fan is this loud.just bought 2*90mm fan.its cap ayam but using 0.2A dunno how many cfm it pushes but i can feel the feel it even it 3feet from me sweat.gif and its F8ckin LOUD sweat.gif uses double bearing dunno wat that means doh.gif
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QUOTE(styloe @ Nov 22 2006, 01:39 AM)
even chapalang fan is this loud.just bought 2*90mm fan.its cap ayam but using 0.2A dunno how many cfm it pushes but i can feel the feel it even it 3feet from me sweat.gif  and its F8ckin LOUD sweat.gif uses double bearing dunno wat that means doh.gif
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Double bearing means that the fan uses two ball bearing in that fan to make the fan blade turns easier and faster than any other chapalang fans that uses sleeve bearing...

capiche? wink.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 22 2006, 01:54 PM)
Double bearing means that the fan uses two ball bearing in that fan to make the fan blade turns easier and faster than any other chapalang fans that uses sleeve bearing...

capiche? wink.gif
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is that mean it will reduce the noice coz the fan can move easier?
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QUOTE(id86 @ Nov 22 2006, 02:04 PM)
is that mean it will reduce the noice coz the fan can move easier?
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Yes, as those fans that uses Sleeve bearing tend to produce more noise than Double Bearing Fans... wink.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 22 2006, 02:31 PM)
Yes, as those fans that uses Sleeve bearing tend to produce more noise than Double Bearing Fans... wink.gif
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if that case,why my Vizo fan produce great noise even it use double ball bearing?
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QUOTE(id86 @ Nov 22 2006, 02:37 PM)
if that case,why my Vizo fan produce great noise even it use double ball bearing?
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Which size?

80MM?
92MM?
120MM?

Anyway, i've said earlier that those fans that uses double bearing tend to produce lower noise [a little lower, not in a large number la laugh.gif ] rather than those fans that uses sleeve bearing... cool.gif

The noise still depend on the fan speed...

Which Vizo fan are u using? blink.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 22 2006, 02:40 PM)
Which size?

80MM?
92MM?
120MM?

Anyway, i've said earlier that those fans that uses double bearing tend to produce lower noise [a little lower, not in a large number la laugh.gif ] rather than those fans that uses sleeve bearing... cool.gif

The noise still depend on the fan speed...

Which Vizo fan are u using? blink.gif
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80MM and 90mm...

if not mistaken,Vizo thunder storm...something like that.

i had forgot the name... doh.gif
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QUOTE(id86 @ Nov 22 2006, 02:43 PM)
80MM and 90mm...

if not mistaken,Vizo thunder storm...something like that.

i had forgot the name... doh.gif
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Aiyoh...

Vizo Thunder Storm are those fast fast fans liao...

Offcourse it's noisy... doh.gif

***How in the world can you stand the noise produced by Vizo Thunder Storm fans... sweat.gif
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hv u guyz tried the silverstone fm121, i think the specs not too bad, 110cfm @ 40db, anyone tried this fan?
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Nov 22 2006, 02:56 PM)
hv u guyz tried the silverstone fm121, i think the specs not too bad, 110cfm @ 40db, anyone tried this fan?
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I don't wanna try that fan...
40DB...

That's noisy... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 22 2006, 08:43 PM)
I don't wanna try that fan...
40DB...

That's noisy... rclxub.gif
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yeah might as well buy new ear plugs while ur at it.so wats the best fan has cfm Vs sound ratio anyways?
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QUOTE(styloe @ Nov 22 2006, 11:17 PM)
yeah might as well buy new ear plugs while ur at it.so wats the best fan has cfm Vs sound ratio anyways?
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My votes goes to Vantec Spectrum 120MM UVLed Fans [as i've said, i only vote for the 120MM fan, not the other sizes smile.gif ]

Best CFM + Low Noise + Bling Bling Factor rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 22 2006, 11:38 PM)
My votes goes to Vantec Spectrum 120MM UVLed Fans [as i've said, i only vote for the 120MM fan, not the other sizes smile.gif ]

Best CFM + Low Noise + Bling Bling Factor  rclxms.gif
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i figured u gonna say that sweat.gif any other brands? flex.gif
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can try silverstone FM 121 12Cm fan that comes with speed control..

CFM:110
RPM:800~2400
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QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 24 2006, 10:48 AM)
can try silverstone FM 121 12Cm fan that comes with speed control..

CFM:110
RPM:800~2400
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110cfm?hontodesuka?but looks kinda boring tho.why cant they make fans more bling2 and high cfm also less noisy vmad.gif .i guess nothing perfect.
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QUOTE(styloe @ Nov 24 2006, 03:07 PM)
110cfm?hontodesuka?but looks kinda boring tho.why cant they make fans more bling2 and high cfm also less noisy vmad.gif .i guess nothing perfect.
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I think silverstone's fan are more than bling bling already..
Love the cream white paint on the blades... wub.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 24 2006, 04:47 PM)
I think silverstone's fan are more than bling bling already..
Love the cream white paint on the blades... wub.gif
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i meant as in bling2 is UV or led.cream arr fettish!! laugh.gif but its not so boring like black color sweat.gif
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QUOTE(styloe @ Nov 24 2006, 05:00 PM)
i meant as in bling2 is UV or led.cream arr fettish!! laugh.gif but its not so boring like black color sweat.gif
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dust can see clearly in cream colour.when clean it,the cream colour slightly diminished.... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(id86 @ Nov 25 2006, 12:00 PM)
dust can see clearly in cream colour.when clean it,the cream colour slightly diminished.... sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Cheh, just wash all those dust with soapy water la, but becareful not to let the water goes to the motor, best is to use some small scrub to scrub off the blades and the case of the fan... thumbup.gif
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what scrub that suitable to make the job?
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QUOTE(id86 @ Nov 25 2006, 12:20 PM)
what scrub that suitable to make the job?
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Those green scrub that u're mom use to wash the dishes [not the sponge type] it's the hard one.

Capiche? smile.gif

***Buy by you're own la, don't steal you're mom's dishwashing scrub, later on you're be scold by you're mom... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 25 2006, 12:23 PM)
Those green scrub that u're mom use to wash the dishes [not the sponge type] it's the hard one.

Capiche? smile.gif
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have some pic of it?
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QUOTE(id86 @ Nov 25 2006, 12:24 PM)
have some pic of it?
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Google la!!!

That one also need people to teach ka? doh.gif
Everything also need other people show it to you ka? rclxub.gif

Don't be such a child... sweat.gif

You're 19 year old already... thumbup.gif

Don't spam here and there asking some silly silly question where you you'reself can find the answer by some simple steps that is: GOOGLE... cool.gif

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im just asking..

i only use some kain buruk to clean up the dust.

no scratch at the fan rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(id86 @ Nov 25 2006, 09:53 PM)
im just asking..

i only use some kain buruk to clean up the dust.

no scratch at the fan rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Do u clean it wif water?

Cheap sale

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QUOTE(hahaha85 @ Nov 28 2006, 10:21 PM)
Do u clean it wif water?

Cheap sale
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i use cheap parfume with cloth safer and quick drying too rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

OT

ayak the green sponge also u dunno arr my god sweat.gif
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these 2 are idle pc temperature..


my processor is p4 3.0 ghz which is the famous socket 775 sad.gif
using the original fan, nowadays the fan is working wit 4k+ rpm yes but the temp always > 65'C

how come ??
if need to change fan, any fan introduce? my budget around rm 100++


notes: not influenced by virus, my cpu performance < 5 % .

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u can try apply thermal grease to reduce the temp

cos the new duo core, the other day we had an event. jst on stock thermal pad.. some of them the temp jst started rising n rising till it reaches 70-80c at BIOS itself.

after applyin the thermal grease everything back to normal

den again u can always change the whole heatsink for better performance

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thx for advise , but mind me..
im noob, wat is thermal grease, and how to apply?
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thx for advise , but mind me..
im noob, wat is thermal grease, and how to apply?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_paste
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There are two type of thermal paste in the market ... one is ceramic which is in white color ... another is in silver color

Famous thermal paste would be Artic Silver 5, Cooler Master Nano Fusion and Zalman STG1.

U could get the all 3 from bulk order while 2 and 3 from LYP ..

instruction of applying can be found in official website...
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Some people here didn't have experience in doing house work....

i thought we are help to help the thread starter .....
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QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 29 2006, 08:39 PM)
Some people here didn't have experience in doing house work....

i thought we are help to help the thread starter .....
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no dude but not know the green sponge kinda ridiculous for me.Are kids nowadays dont do chores is it?not even washing ur own plate?we here of coz to help but this is kinda to much for me... sweat.gif how to help if ppl dunno the common stuff in thei own house? doh.gif

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HEAT PASTE:

Artic silver 5 or the latest zalman thermal paste forgot the model lol

HEATSINK RECOMMENDATION:
i have two recommendation silent setup go for TT blue orb for performance easy to install best for noobs get TT big typhoon VX.another wan is gigabyte g power pro also not bad retails at rm165 but annoying to assemble but its worth ur penny.just google for the each specs ya...

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U can choose for ninja plus also...U can get from moderno jz RM180......Better wait for the heatsink review from our forummer than oni u choose which one better la....
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THANKS ALL MY PROBLEM FIXED , CHANGED Fan + Heat Sink , now tem < 55 even full load
thanks for all help
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Some people here didn't have experience in doing house work....

i thought we are help to help the thread starter .....
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That's true... laugh.gif

Those are such simple things that you always find in the kitchen liao... tongue.gif

Where's the threadstarter? blink.gif
MIA? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34 @ Dec 1 2006, 05:41 PM)
THANKS ALL MY PROBLEM FIXED , CHANGED Fan + Heat Sink , now tem < 55 even full load
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What kind of heatsink u're using now? blink.gif

Share with us la bro... rclxms.gif
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it's good it has solved ... so what's the trick ??

share with us here .... forum meant to be sharing ....
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QUOTE(Doom @ Dec 2 2006, 02:17 AM)
it's good it has solved ... so what's the trick ??

share with us here .... forum meant to be sharing ....
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Or if you don't want to share, just close this topic liao... laugh.gif

Don't waste the bandwidth of LYN. smile.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 2 2006, 04:28 PM)
Or if you don't want to share, just close this topic liao... laugh.gif

Don't waste the bandwidth of LYN. smile.gif
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maybe the topic starter is to happy that the temp is low and forget about LYN....
hahahaha.....
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I would thought of the same ... busy monitoring the temperature only ...
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sorry, kinda busy nowadays mar smile.gif

i bought a CoolerMaster Hyper TX, now my Temp when idle is always 38-40 +, and when full load its 50+ smile.gif

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and also , the fan running max speed of 1800 RPM only, i only can hear a very minor noise of fan when i put my ear to my Casing
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hahaha that's a brilliant way of solving it .... HyperTX indeed nice.....


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Well, recently when i played Need For Speed Carbon or Call of Duty at medium graphic settings, I will be able to play it for like 5-8 minutes tops and then i get artifacting effects.Small 3d boxes appear all over the screen cry.gif
whats even worse is i need to restart (no exitting the game doesnt solve it).

Did some troubleshooting and found out with ATITool that my Graphic card temperature is at 100C or more when loaded ! shocking.gif rclxub.gif
and idle at 65-75C.
Graphic card is not overclocked. Stock setting with stock cooling.

Now question I have for the hardcore OC'ers;
1) Is it a normal temperature range for this type pf graphic card?
2) Is it better to change cooling and hope its not a physical malfunction or better get a new card?

Thanks for all inputs smile.gif


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it is unnormal, maybe u got a problem card..juz check it carefully, ur temp cant be so high
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Why not when u are having a case with poor ventilation that cycle hot air repeatedly.

second possibility is ur cooler might not work properly anymore... check with the ATI Tool of the fan usage.

if the fan is always low of course the temperature would shoot up...

anyway 100c for X800XL is not possible only the latest X1800n series and up would have such result...
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QUOTE(Doom @ Dec 4 2006, 01:24 PM)
Why not when u are having a case with poor ventilation that cycle hot air repeatedly.

second possibility is ur cooler might not work properly anymore... check with the ATI Tool of the fan usage.

if the fan is always low of course the temperature would shoot up...

anyway 100c for X800XL is not possible only the latest X1800n series and up would have  such result...
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Agreed...

It's either you're case is having a very poof ventilation cycle, or maybe u're heatsink is too "cap ayam".. tongue.gif

But, i've used a lot of X800 models before, and none of them rises to 100C, i think it's you're casing ventilation..

Mind to give us some pictures of how does the internal of you're cpu looks like?
That way, we can help you liao... smile.gif
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hahaha that's a brilliant way of solving it .... HyperTX indeed nice.....
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I've seen a lot of good results in Hyper TX reviews...
Might sell off my XP120 and get that heatsink...

But not really into it because of the design... sweat.gif
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Come one men .. it would be hard to even to replace the fan ......

that's the main reason keeping me using ThermalRight products ...

some more it is easier to clean the heatsink .... dump to water and wipe off to bring that the shinning fins ....

no offense just sharing my sense ....
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QUOTE(Doom @ Dec 4 2006, 08:46 PM)
Come one men .. it would be hard to even to replace the fan ......

that's the main reason keeping me using ThermalRight products ...

some more it is easier to clean the heatsink .... dump to water and wipe off to bring that the shinning fins ....

no offense just sharing my sense ....
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You are right about replacing the fans, but, the performance do really lure me out to try that heatsink... wub.gif

Hmm, want to try or not aa?
Hmm... whistling.gif
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It's either this or your car's cooling fan is faulty, have it checked to see if it is working properly.



QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 4 2006, 06:57 PM)
Agreed...

It's either you're case is having a very poof ventilation cycle, or maybe u're heatsink is too "cap ayam".. tongue.gif

But, i've used a lot of X800 models before, and none of them rises to 100C, i think it's you're casing ventilation..

Mind to give us some pictures of how does the internal of you're cpu looks like?
That way, we can help you liao... smile.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 4 2006, 06:57 PM)
Agreed...

It's either you're case is having a very poof ventilation cycle, or maybe u're heatsink is too "cap ayam".. tongue.gif

But, i've used a lot of X800 models before, and none of them rises to 100C, i think it's you're casing ventilation..

Mind to give us some pictures of how does the internal of you're cpu looks like?
That way, we can help you liao... smile.gif
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QUOTE(satchi1981 @ Dec 4 2006, 11:44 AM)
Well, recently when i played Need For Speed Carbon or Call of Duty at medium graphic settings, I will be able to play it for like 5-8 minutes tops and then i get artifacting effects.Small 3d boxes appear all over the screen cry.gif
whats even worse is i need to restart (no exitting the game doesnt solve it).

Did some troubleshooting and found out with ATITool that my Graphic card temperature is at 100C or more when loaded ! shocking.gif  rclxub.gif
and idle at 65-75C.
Graphic card is not overclocked. Stock setting with stock cooling.

Now question I have for the hardcore OC'ers;
1) Is it a normal temperature range for this type pf graphic card?
2) Is it better to change cooling and hope its not a physical malfunction or better get a new card?

Thanks for all inputs smile.gif
Below are my specs:
DFI LAN Party UT-D
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Kingston Memory 512 twin pack(sorry dont have the chipset type)
Westerd Digital 160Gb
Maxtor 120Gb
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i think u shud get a new hsf for it. to prolong the life of the card. unless with the new coat of AS5, the temperature drops significantly.
could u also post up a pic of ur rig? ur case might be cramp and ristricting airflow...
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where's the thread starter ????

show some photos of the case look and the graphic card....

else hard for others to help out ...
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34 @ Dec 4 2006, 01:29 AM)
sorry, kinda busy nowadays mar smile.gif

i bought a CoolerMaster  Hyper TX, now my Temp when idle is always 38-40 +, and when full load its 50+ smile.gif
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nice to hear that.btw u used the paste bundle with the hsf or use AS5?
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he online but didnt reply this post. so can assume that his problem is solved?
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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 6 2006, 04:23 PM)
he online but didnt reply this post. so can assume that his problem is solved?
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 5 2006, 04:40 AM)
You are right about replacing the fans, but, the performance do really lure me out to try that heatsink... wub.gif

Hmm, want to try or not aa?
Hmm... whistling.gif
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i stick with my HR-01 ... so far the result is more than satisfaction ... and noise level ...

feel like almost none... besides the GPU area of course ....
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 4 2006, 06:59 PM)
I've seen a lot of good results in Hyper TX reviews...
Might sell off my XP120 and get that heatsink...

But not really into it because of the design... sweat.gif
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sell your xp120 to me if u are letting it go smile.gif
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sell your xp120 to me if u are letting it go smile.gif
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I am not gonna sell my XP120, it serve me well for 2 years, and i still love it's design... just like bro ianho... respect to the god of modding.. notworthy.gif

Heh, i'm gonna try that new CoolerMaster heatsink later on, but not gonna do it until i know the market price and the performance of it...

But to think of my Tsunami Dream casing.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 7 2006, 01:24 AM)
I am not gonna sell my XP120, it serve me well for 2 years, and i still love it's design... just like bro ianho... respect to the god of modding.. notworthy.gif

Heh, i'm gonna try that new CoolerMaster heatsink later on, but not gonna do it until i know the market price and the performance of it...

But to think of my Tsunami Dream casing.. sweat.gif
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i guess time to get ur dream casing asap bro.im thinking of buying xp120 since g power isnt sufficient to cooling my proc.i guess lapping the cheapest way but too busy now.stalling new HSF wud be the easiest and fastest way than lappin for me sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 7 2006, 01:24 AM)
I am not gonna sell my XP120, it serve me well for 2 years, and i still love it's design... just like bro ianho... respect to the god of modding.. notworthy.gif

Heh, i'm gonna try that new CoolerMaster heatsink later on, but not gonna do it until i know the market price and the performance of it...

But to think of my Tsunami Dream casing.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 7 2006, 01:24 AM)
I am not gonna sell my XP120, it serve me well for 2 years, and i still love it's design... just like bro ianho... respect to the god of modding.. notworthy.gif

Heh, i'm gonna try that new CoolerMaster heatsink later on, but not gonna do it until i know the market price and the performance of it...

But to think of my Tsunami Dream casing.. sweat.gif
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Go visit lowyat loh .... i saw it at MyPC last week and some more some one was buying it ...

too bad didn't asked the price as just want to pass by only...
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Go visit lowyat loh .... i saw it at MyPC last week and some more some one was buying it ...

too bad didn't asked the price as just want to pass by only...
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???
U're talking about the CM Fujin or the CM Hyper TX?

If u're talking about the Hyper TX, no need loh, i don't want it anymore, thinking of saving my money and go for this monstrous Fujin, just waiting for some reviews and waiting for the price to be announced liao... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Doom @ Dec 6 2006, 01:35 PM)
where's the thread starter ????

show some photos of the case look and the graphic card....

else hard for others to help out ...
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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 6 2006, 04:23 PM)
he online but didnt reply this post. so can assume that his problem is solved?
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Dec 6 2006, 06:48 PM)
maybe he is just busy. give him time to get back to us tongue.gif
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Threadstarter MIA, consider problem solved leh, as even the threadstarter didn't want to discuss with us no more... sweat.gif
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Anything wrong with Hyper TX? It received quite a number of good reviews. At least is scored better than CM Mars in overclocking, cheap and good. thumbup.gif


QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 8 2006, 10:21 AM)
???
U're talking about the CM Fujin or the CM Hyper TX?

If u're talking about the Hyper TX, no need loh, i don't want it anymore, thinking of saving my money and go for this monstrous Fujin, just waiting for some reviews and waiting for the price to be announced liao... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Dec 8 2006, 10:25 AM)
Anything wrong with Hyper TX? It received quite a number of good reviews. At least is scored better than CM Mars in overclocking, cheap and good.  thumbup.gif
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I didn't say anything "WRONG" about Hyper TX, i said, i don't want it anymore, as i'm going for the gigantic Fujin liao...

You've must be misunderstanding my previous post... laugh.gif
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Can't wait to see it in action on our forumer case.....

anyway sHawTY .. any pciture of ur current setup ....
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Can't wait to see it in action on our forumer case.....

anyway sHawTY .. any pciture of ur current setup ....
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Dun have a digital camera la...
U sponsor me one la... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 7 2006, 01:24 AM)
I am not gonna sell my XP120, it serve me well for 2 years, and i still love it's design... just like bro ianho... respect to the god of modding.. notworthy.gif

Heh, i'm gonna try that new CoolerMaster heatsink later on, but not gonna do it until i know the market price and the performance of it...

But to think of my Tsunami Dream casing.. sweat.gif
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wah, u still wanna sell it ka? last time i read the post u gonna sell it for RM300, rite? sweat.gif
now RM2xx? tongue.gif
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wah, u still wanna sell it ka? last time i read the post u gonna sell it for RM300, rite? sweat.gif
now RM2xx? tongue.gif
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No...

Don't be ridiculous, my Tsunami Dream is still new baa...

Ehh, not allowed to discuss anything about sales here liao... laugh.gif
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come on ... with the rig u have a simple DC also can't afford meh ???

3 or 4++ can get a nice 4.0 to 5.0 MP DC loh ...

Hand phone also can ....
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QUOTE(Doom @ Dec 9 2006, 12:12 AM)
come on ... with the rig u have a simple DC also can't afford meh ???

3 or 4++ can get a nice 4.0 to 5.0 MP DC loh ...

Hand phone also can ....
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Can't! coz all my money has been finished in building the two of my lovely pentium D 930 rig... wub.gif

Handphone aah?
My HP don't even have a camera liao... laugh.gif
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aio... what a shame ... but can borrow friends DC or DC hp .. .
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 9 2006, 04:37 PM)
Can't! coz all my money has been finished in building the two of my lovely pentium D 930 rig... wub.gif

Handphone aah?
My HP don't even have a camera liao... laugh.gif
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if u really in need of DC, i can lend you my old 5 megapixel canon DC.
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wah, u really a nice person lor, hard for me to lend something for someone i'm hardly known, especially in a forum notworthy.gif
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ei... coolermaster hyper tx really good leh... just look at the load temp... 50+... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 9 2006, 11:56 PM)
if u really in need of DC, i can lend you my old 5 megapixel canon DC.
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Not right now, as i'll be upgrading my system to the max that my budget can support later, then, after that, i'll be showing off my rig in here, to make u're saliva coming out from you're mouth... brows.gif

The best part is, i'm going to replace my Tsunami Dream with the Lian Li PC A10, and fit it with two Enermax Liberty 500W psu... flex.gif

Or should i use two Enermax Liberty 620W? blink.gif
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actually to me, forum is like real life.. if we can meet in here, we should open our heart and trust ppl in here. i think forum lost the shine if everyone is selfish and always suspect this and that. forum is about sharing knowledge and getting new friends. if things like a DC can show the true colour of a person and throw away the reputation he built in the forum, personally i think it is worth lo. haha...

sHawTY, i am waiting patiently for your rig.. probably i can 'steal' some idea from it. haha... anyway you are so rich la with all those thing you buying.
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Not right now, as i'll be upgrading my system to the max that my budget can support later, then, after that, i'll be showing off my rig in here, to make u're saliva coming out from you're mouth... brows.gif

The best part is, i'm going to replace my Tsunami Dream with the Lian Li PC A10, and fit it with two Enermax Liberty 500W psu... flex.gif

Or should i use two Enermax Liberty 620W? blink.gif
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joining lian li league.....good choice thumbup.gif ....abt the psu...why wanna use 2 when can get 1 kau kau wan
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probably he want to have dedicated PSU for GC only.. hehe... hardcore Overclocker..
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probably he want to have dedicated PSU for GC only.. hehe... hardcore Overclocker..
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more cable clutter and also more heat if not using modular i think, the unused wires also no place to keep, anyway if u look at the pc a10, if put 2 psu the heat frm the hdd harder to escape
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 11 2006, 10:32 PM)
joining lian li league.....good choice  thumbup.gif ....abt the psu...why wanna use 2 when can get 1 kau kau wan
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Because the Lian Li PCA10 has two psu slots, why leave it just like that when u can utilize them both? smile.gif

The 1st psu is for the motherboard, all harddisks, optical drives and the fans in the pc, while the other psu is for the graphic cards, the watercooling components and the uv ccfl...

I think two Liberty 500W is enough right?

I'm not going for the Enermax Galaxy 1000W, as i've heard that it got lot's of problems, so, i'm opting for two Enermax Liberty 500W, it's the same thing right? smile.gif

Futhermore, it'll be cheaper... thumbup.gif

Two Enermax Liberty 500W: RM450 X 2 = RM900 wub.gif
One Enermax Galaxy 1000W: RM1XXX rclxub.gif

However, the PCA10 doesn't have one thing that i've always wanted: Motherboard tray facing leftside of the casing, not rightside like all many casings in the market... sweat.gif

Any other Lian Li casing that have these specs:
Other casing brand is also accepted, but please don't offer me Thermaltake Casings laugh.gif

1) Motherboard tray facing leftside of the casing
2) MUST Have front door to cover all the 5.25" + 3.5" External bay
3) Have two slots for utilizing two PSU's

Anyone can give me some opinion? icon_question.gif
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lately, my sempron is getting a bit hot. dunno why. i hv changed the thermal compound, reapply it, the problem still persist. i saw people getting around 30 C in idle. but my one went up to as high as 40-45 C. i open my casing and boot up windows. touch the heatsink, ironically, it wasnt hot. what is the problem actually? what idle temperature is standard for sempron E6?
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wat mobo u use?
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 11 2006, 11:09 PM)
Because the Lian Li PCA10 has two psu slots, why leave it just like that when u can utilize them both? smile.gif

The 1st psu is for the motherboard, all harddisks, optical drives and the fans in the pc, while the other psu is for the graphic cards, the watercooling components and the uv ccfl...

I think two Liberty 500W is enough right?

I'm not going for the Enermax Galaxy 1000W, as i've heard that it got lot's of problems, so, i'm opting for two Enermax Liberty 500W, it's the same thing right?  smile.gif

Futhermore, it'll be cheaper... thumbup.gif

Two Enermax Liberty 500W: RM450 X 2 = RM900 wub.gif
One Enermax Galaxy 1000W: RM1XXX rclxub.gif

However, the PCA10 doesn't have one thing that i've always wanted: Motherboard tray facing leftside of the casing, not rightside like all many casings in the market... sweat.gif

Any other Lian Li casing that have these specs:
Other casing brand is also accepted, but please don't offer me Thermaltake Casings laugh.gif

1) Motherboard tray facing leftside of the casing
2) MUST Have front door to cover all the 5.25" + 3.5" External bay
3) Have two slots for utilizing two PSU's

Anyone can give me some opinion? icon_question.gif
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i know its designed for 2 psu but reason i dont recommend 2 psu for this casing is coz if u look at the pc a10 airflow is designed to go one way, if u put another psu, hot air frm hdd cant escape...then the heat will built up coz i using something similar but the 2nd psu is stacked, not side by side, anyway i left my unused cables on top of the psu and after awhile i can feel the heat build up, quite warm around the unused cables area ...thats just with cables not another squarish block like psu, furthermore the enermax fan on top not on the front or back, heat slower to dissipate.

Anyway all things considered...local availability, support etc, i think the silverstone olympia is a good 1kw psu, amp is one of the highest for 1kw and if their pricing follow the strider and zeus then shud be worth buying...not the overly priced galaxy. Also has a single 12v rail which means less wory abt balancing the rails.

Abt ur casing maybe try the pc 201a/b, its got the same exact internals as the pc v2100plus but cheaper, with an extra 120mm fan but mobo tray not facing the left, iinm its around the price range of the pc a10 but bigger biggrin.gif
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having 2 psu but most mobo got one connector only.. how to start both psu wor?? someone enlighten me plzz
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having 2 psu but most mobo got one connector only.. how to start both psu wor?? someone enlighten me plzz
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there is this conector thing that the sell to jump start 2 psu.
basically, what u do is connect the green wire of the 20/24pins of one psu, to the green wire of the second psu.

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there is this conector thing that the sell to jump start 2 psu.
basically, what u do is connect the green wire of the 20/24pins of one psu, to the green wire of the second psu.

(sorry if my explanation is kinda chaplang.)
here is a link biggrin.gif
http://www.procooling.com/index.php?func=a...es&disp=52&pg=1
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Owh, thanks dude!!
That explains how am i going to use both psu in my casing... notworthy.gif
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The question is, are you using stock amd heatsink? blink.gif
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hi to all sifu's out ther. Can sum1 give me sum advice of wat to do to my pc? i have the pc temp as like this. i have attach a picture which i print screen. Whenever i on gaming the pc temp rises and sumtimes it warns me that my cpu temp is going abnormal n need to b restart. Sumtimes the pc reach 68c. i m using the intel dual core processor 2.8. Not the Core 2duo processor. Can sum1 help me and teach me how to reduce the heat ?




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well for your chip is normal as you know the pentium series before C2D, the chipset generates a lot of heats...when you just start the pc the temp is around 50+..to reduce the heat try improve the air flow of the casing and if you have the cash to spare get a better heatsink..

oh yeah..if your heatsink is dusty GO CLEAN IT!!

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QUOTE(HCTH @ Dec 12 2006, 10:58 PM)
hi to all sifu's out ther. Can sum1 give me sum advice of wat to do to my pc? i have the pc temp as like this. i have attach a picture which i print screen. Whenever i on gaming the pc temp rises and sumtimes it warns me that my cpu temp is going abnormal n need to b restart. Sumtimes the pc reach 68c. i m using the intel dual core processor 2.8. Not the Core 2duo processor. Can sum1 help me and teach me how to reduce the heat ?
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dual core processor? u mean pentium d ar... are u using the pentium d 820 model? what heatsink are u using? stock or 3rd party?

cause last time i use the stock heatsink on pentium d, the temp went up like ur's, guess need to change like i did...
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Heh bro you got urself a spanking frying pan called pentium D there man. Real hot and stock HSF just doesn't cut it especially if airflow not good enuf. If possible go get a nice tower-type heat sink and reduce the temps. Or start off with a better casing exhaust fan and seeif that helps first...
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Heh bro you got urself a spanking frying pan called pentium D there man. Real hot and stock HSF just doesn't cut it especially if airflow not good enuf. If possible go get a nice tower-type heat sink and reduce the temps. Or start off with a better casing exhaust fan and seeif that helps first...
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Yeah, vey99 is right...
Pentium D 8XX sequence is the hottest intel processor ever built..

While the Pentium D 9XX sequence is a little cooler as it uses two cedar mill cores compared to the Pentium D 8XX sequence that uses two Prescott Cores

Pentium D 8XX - Two Prescott Cores [90nm] - Smithfield
Pentium D 9XX - Two Cedar Mill Cores [65nm] - Pressler

The thing that u have to check first is, the heatsink, are you using Stock Intel Heatsink? If it's true, then it's the time to change the heatsink to a 3rd party heatsink.

2, make sure u're casing have a good airflow. Please give us a picture of how does you're cpu look inside, this way, we can help you out in understanding & clearing the problem. smile.gif

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Yeah, vey99 is right...
Pentium D 8XX sequence is the hottest intel processor ever built..

While the Pentium D 9XX sequence is a little cooler as it uses two cedar mill cores compared to the Pentium D 8XX sequence that uses two Prescott Cores

Pentium D 8XX - Two Prescott Cores [90nm] - Smithfield
Pentium D 9XX - Two Cedar Mill Cores [65nm] - Pressler

The thing that u have to check first is, the heatsink, are you using Stock Intel Heatsink? If it's true, then it's the time to change the heatsink to a 3rd party heatsink.

2, make sure u're casing have a good airflow. Please give us a picture of how does you're cpu look inside, this way, we can help you out in understanding & clearing the problem. smile.gif
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agree, btw, how low did u managed to lower down the temp with my ex-pentium d?

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So sorry i din mentioned wat heatsink i m using. Yes i m using the intel stock heatsink. My processor model is pentium d 820 2.8hertz wan. Can i ask did anyone heard of sum1 blown their pentium d processor cos of the heat a. U ppl say like tis i veli scare d. Cos i budget this pc can last for 2 years. sad.gif cry.gif

Any recommendation of 3rd party heatsink ?????

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o yeah i miss out sumthing. i dun have camera here. but i try get 1 from fren n take a pic of my cpu. Anyway thanks for helping. Arigatok all sifu's
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QUOTE(HCTH @ Dec 13 2006, 12:50 AM)
So sorry i din mentioned wat heatsink i m using. Yes i m using the intel stock heatsink. My processor model is pentium d 820 2.8hertz wan. Can i ask did  anyone heard of sum1 blown their pentium d processor cos of the heat a. U ppl say like tis i veli scare d. Cos i budget this pc can last for 2 years.  sad.gif  cry.gif

Any recommendation of 3rd party heatsink ?????
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so, u using the pentium d that i used b4... trust me on this, u better get that heatsink changed, u can refer here as i did last time...

heatsink recommendation??? hhhmmmm, 1st of all, ur budget, no point if i recommend u water cooling or high-end heatsink if u can't afford one, rite? notworthy.gif

anyway, u can try Thermalright or Scythe, if u can afford it of course rclxms.gif
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Mmmmm as long as the heatsink doesn't reach rm300 i still ok with it. No choice lo have to change cos of the temp. Rather than once burnt the damage sure more than rm300.Thanks E-J@1 for ur kind sharing information. hands.gif I appreciate it veli much. So now u still using pentium d or u change d?

Heatsink i tink ok gua. But in my mind i got a question. Water cooling ok or not. Scare eh when the liquid or the paip bocor den kena mb mai whole pc sot? hmm.gif Jus curious to ask. cool2.gif

by the way E-J@1 tat time u change to wat heatsink n hows the result.Mind share it out a ?
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please do not forget to put the good heat sink paste on it.

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agree, btw, how low did u managed to lower down the temp with my ex-pentium d?
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50degrees on that board, as that's my brother's pc, not mine, don't care much though... laugh.gif

QUOTE(HCTH @ Dec 13 2006, 12:50 AM)
So sorry i din mentioned wat heatsink i m using. Yes i m using the intel stock heatsink. My processor model is pentium d 820 2.8hertz wan. Can i ask did  anyone heard of sum1 blown their pentium d processor cos of the heat a. U ppl say like tis i veli scare d. Cos i budget this pc can last for 2 years.  sad.gif  cry.gif

Any recommendation of 3rd party heatsink ?????
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That pc can last for 2 years, but if u really love u're pc, change the stupid intel stock heatsink to a decent 3rd party heatsink... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(HCTH @ Dec 13 2006, 02:17 AM)
Mmmmm as long as the heatsink doesn't reach rm300 i still ok with it. No choice lo have to change cos of the temp. Rather than once burnt the damage sure more than rm300.Thanks E-J@1 for ur kind sharing information. hands.gif  I appreciate it veli much. So now u still using pentium d or u change d?

Heatsink i tink ok gua. But in my mind i got a question. Water cooling ok or not. Scare eh when the liquid or the paip bocor den kena mb mai whole pc sot? hmm.gif  Jus curious to ask. cool2.gif

by the way E-J@1 tat time u change to wat heatsink n hows the result.Mind share it out a ?
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RM300?
You can get either Thermalright Ultra 120, Thermaltake Big Thyphoon VX, Scythe Infinity with that kinda budget smile.gif

But, for Thermalright Ultra 120, it's kinda hard to get one today, as it's worldwide shortage...

It's the best heatsink on the market right now, that's why everyone is rushing to get the Ultra 120... wish.gif
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QUOTE(HCTH @ Dec 13 2006, 02:17 AM)
Mmmmm as long as the heatsink doesn't reach rm300 i still ok with it. No choice lo have to change cos of the temp. Rather than once burnt the damage sure more than rm300.Thanks E-J@1 for ur kind sharing information. hands.gif  I appreciate it veli much. So now u still using pentium d or u change d?

Heatsink i tink ok gua. But in my mind i got a question. Water cooling ok or not. Scare eh when the liquid or the paip bocor den kena mb mai whole pc sot? hmm.gif  Jus curious to ask. cool2.gif

by the way E-J@1 tat time u change to wat heatsink n hows the result.Mind share it out a ?
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hahaha, already sold the pentium d to shawty...

i change it to thermalright xp-90, the temp went down like crazy, around 47-50c (full load), onli for one week though,doesn't got the time to test it, then i sold the heatsink to my friend cause want to top-up for my C2D b4 selling pentium d rclxms.gif

& ur budget RM300!!! wah wat a high budget, what casing u use? maybe it can fit those high-end tower heatsink, tell us ur casing dimension or ur case model hands.gif

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bro go water....h20 the way to go...hehe
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wah this thread, from talking bout cpu temp become a fully fledged psu discussion thread...lol...
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Well..I've try remounting my Heatpaste.Improve my casing airflow but my load temp is still same as my stock cooler....Anyone help ?
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What kind of heatsink u're using for you're E6300? smile.gif

Stock intel heatsink? blink.gif

3rd Party Heatsink? If this is the answer, mind to tell me which 3rd party heatsink u're using now? blink.gif
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bro hes using some 3rd party hsf lah..read his post properly. he said same as my stock hsf... bro i think maybe ur hsf is noit mounted properly, or too much tim, or maybe jsut ur hsf aint that efficient, i cant make a judgement untill u tell wat hsf u using or a picture ....
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what is your temp? did you overclock?
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bro if ur hsf is cold to the touch that means it isnt working ... if ur heatsink is hot or warm to the toucvh that mean it is conducting the heat. this applies to all heatsinjks big or small.... if its cold so that means it s not working, try reseating the hsf or change to a different hsf...
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mmm since so many ppl recommend me to go for liquid cooling system system. Mind if i ask at least how much RM i will have to invest in it to get a decent performance. By the way wat brand of liquid cooling system is recommended and their specifications.
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 13 2006, 06:25 PM)
What kind of heatsink u're using for you're E6300? smile.gif

Stock intel heatsink? blink.gif

3rd Party Heatsink? If this is the answer, mind to tell me which 3rd party heatsink u're using now? blink.gif
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Infinity..I didn't overclock..Load at 58c.

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Infinity..I didn't overclock..Load at 58c.
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definately wrong reading if u make sure all the things done correctly.

using infinity for non o/c E63 should get 40-45 (idle) and 46-50 (load with orthos).

just a reference here: i'm using ultra-120 with e64 o/c 400x8 at 1.375v, 51 (idle) and 55-56(load with 2 foldings) or 58-59 (load with orthos). my reading consider quite high d as my air flow not really good. 1x80mm intake, 1x120mm + 1x80mm (psu) exhaust. no sleeving any wires (quite messy).

*my readings depends on the weather too wink.gif
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QUOTE(basSist @ Dec 13 2006, 07:03 PM)
definately wrong reading if u make sure all the things done correctly.

using infinity for non o/c E63 should get 40-45 (idle) and 46-50 (load with orthos).

just a reference here: i'm using ultra-120 with e64 o/c 400x8 at 1.375v, 51 (idle) and 55-56(load with 2 foldings) or 58-59 (load with orthos). my reading consider quite high d as my air flow not really good. 1x80mm intake, 1x120mm + 1x80mm (psu) exhaust. no sleeving any wires (quite messy).

*my readings depends on the weather too wink.gif
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Hmm...my ambient temp is around 30c.....Could be my E6300 is the problem it self ?
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Hmm...my ambient temp is around 30c.....Could be my E6300 is the problem it self ?
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where is the location of your case, on the table or below the table?
try running with case open, see how huge temperature difference
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where is the location of your case, on the table or below the table?
try running with case open, see how huge temperature difference
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On top...no diffrent in temp when case open. sad.gif

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what heatpaste u using?, be sure not too thick...
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what heatpaste u using?, be sure not too thick...
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Artic silver 5...will check the thickness.

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I am not sure that this would help, but it's worth for a try smile.gif

Try updating the bios... wink.gif
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http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appinstruc...l_dual_wcap.pdf

try reading the instructions see whether did u do it right...
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http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appinstruc...l_dual_wcap.pdf

try reading the instructions see whether did u do it right...
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I'll try when I got my time.Updated my Bios still same.
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QUOTE(king99 @ Dec 13 2006, 10:01 PM)
I'll try when I got my time.Updated my Bios still same.
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Where u put ur pc? ROom? Room temperature?
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Where u put ur pc? ROom? Room temperature?
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did u check thermalpaste thickness...
btw try take pic of ur case n thermalpaste thickness n post here..
mybe it will help the rest of us to settle it..
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theres is no specific breands , but i recomend getting if u wan normal but cheap, but ok performance get teh collermaster aquagate mini r120
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how about the 3d galaxy from gigabyte? is it consider high performance WC? those sales person in pc fair told me it is the best and so on
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lol.. a packaged wc kit is NEver good. coz they cant use high end stuffs , the price too high, and no wan will buy. did u know a artic cooling freezer 64pro can beat the thermaltake bigwater?....
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well i doubt its the thermal paste too thick coz if the hsfs mounted properly it will spread out so no more thick... the main thing is the mounting pressure..
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rite... if u mount the hsf properly, there should be no thermal paste thickness matter since it will spread out .... just my 2 cent... maybe something related to ur casing ventilation....
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rite... if u mount the hsf properly, there should be no thermal paste thickness matter since it will spread out .... just my 2 cent... maybe something related to ur casing ventilation....
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open case also same problem, so not case airflow/venitlation
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how about the 3d galaxy from gigabyte? is it consider high performance WC? those sales person in pc fair told me it is the best and so on
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try remounting is with a diff position.
what rear fans are u using?
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QUOTE(edwuave @ Dec 12 2006, 02:20 AM)
lately, my sempron is getting a bit hot. dunno why. i hv changed the thermal compound, reapply it, the problem still persist. i saw people getting around 30 C in idle. but my one went up to as high as 40-45 C. i open my casing and boot up windows. touch the heatsink, ironically, it wasnt hot. what is the problem actually? what idle temperature is standard for sempron E6?
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QUOTE(edwuave @ Dec 12 2006, 02:20 AM)
lately, my sempron is getting a bit hot. dunno why. i hv changed the thermal compound, reapply it, the problem still persist. i saw people getting around 30 C in idle. but my one went up to as high as 40-45 C. i open my casing and boot up windows. touch the heatsink, ironically, it wasnt hot. what is the problem actually? what idle temperature is standard for sempron E6?
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dude, u gotta remount quickly before ur porc dies out.
bad contact = death for a proc. arks ><
heat conductivity isnt good
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My sempron 2800+ 2.3GHz temp is 31C at idle in a small SFF casing, PSU on top of the processor, so might be HSF not completely covering the proc.
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Dec 14 2006, 07:13 PM)
open case also same problem, so not case airflow/venitlation
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open case is not a good idea to check for the airflow/ventilation. if open case, the air doesn't follow the path where it should go and just simply flow out through the side.
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E-J@1 say like tat means u have sum good recommendation ? At least i wan to know the least budget to get a liquid wc. Later i go ly ther din bring enuff money big problem. So any comments from all of u are recommended. O yeah forgot to say i m new in wc.
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HSF too big?? so cant close case?
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QUOTE(HCTH @ Dec 14 2006, 11:13 PM)
E-J@1 say like tat means u have sum good recommendation ? At least i wan to know the least budget to get a liquid wc. Later i go ly ther din bring enuff money big problem. So any comments from all of u are recommended. O yeah forgot to say i m new in wc.
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mmm air cooling is mean by wat a. Change heatsink a. Sorry newbies here wat is mean by imo a tongue.gif . B4 tis package wc no gud? So meaning buy part by part is better a lot ?
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im using stock AMD heatsink. this noon, i get a reading of 50+ C degree. i reapply the thermal paste(an even thin layer), the problem still persist. the thermal paste is a capalang one from lowyat. what is the problem here?
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Processor Pentium D 2.80
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hor? y i can post pic to the site wan geh? my pic is in jpeg format wor.

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I'm thinking that the heatsink might not be installed properly. Did you push in those pins till u hear a click?
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It's normal at that temp. Last time my 830 also around that temp also.
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E-J@1 say like tat means u have sum good recommendation ? At least i wan to know the least budget to get a liquid wc. Later i go ly ther din bring enuff money big problem. So any comments from all of u are recommended. O yeah forgot to say i m new in wc.
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QUOTE(styloe @ Dec 14 2006, 11:32 PM)
IMO better stick to air cooling since WC is too way over ur league for now.no point waste all that money for a WC kit only my fren.get a hyperTX i think sufficient for u and u can save the rest of ur money to upgrade ur GC ,ram or watever later on.believe me u really want an extra cash handy sometimes.u never know.just my too cents here.cheers
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QUOTE(neoxz @ Dec 15 2006, 01:21 PM)
It's normal at that temp. Last time my 830 also around that temp also.
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seem like u using iCute casing ar?

maybe it'll fit all tower heatsink but do ur casing hve a side case fan? hmm.gif
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bro i strongly suggest u change that psu... um with 300 u can get a very good hsf aledi... like the thermaltake big typhoon vx... less than 200....
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bro as i have said man times... please remount ur hsf... or check whether u have a good mount pressure by looking at how well the tim has spread,....
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man, his casing looks like mine..

one advise: change your rear 120mm fan to those high power out like TT 120mm Smart Fan < with speed controller. its default fan is too weak to suck the hot air from your casing.
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well getting a new exhaust fan will not help much, i sugeest u re mount ur hsf....
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man, his casing looks like mine..

one advise: change your rear 120mm fan to those high power out like TT 120mm Smart Fan < with speed controller. its default fan is too weak to suck the hot air from your casing.
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bro as i have said man times... please remount ur hsf... or check whether u have a good mount pressure by looking at how well the tim has spread,....
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does he using like ur's iCute? does it have side case fan?
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there is no side panel fan...
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wah this thread, from talking bout cpu temp become a fully fledged psu discussion thread...lol...
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icon_rolleyes.gif yes i m using icute casing. My casing side panel have two 12cm fan side. One of it is attached wif an exhaust. But the guy in low yat say the exhaust can b detached. My front casing ther got a big 12 cm enclosed wif a dummy fan for display. Hope u ppl get wat i mean. As i observe my cpu casing is icute wif a name avf.

Sum1 jus mentioned cpu fan wif controller. How much would it cost. las time i go into a pc overclocking shop a malay guy say its price is 50 ++.

Hmmm.Normally wher u guys go look for heatsink. IT Hypermarket ? Any recommendations?

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ya oh lolhalol u mentioned :

bro i strongly suggest u change that psu... um with 300 u can get a very good hsf aledi... like the thermaltake big typhoon vx... less than 200....

ur "psu" = power supply unit?

my power logic supply unit got problem oso a

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Oii bro, u're using stock heatsink fro you're Pentium D 820, and the idle temps is 60degrees, that's cool liao...

My brother's pc is using the same processor with an XP120 heatsink, and you know what's the temperature?

It's 50degrees in idle...

XP120 is considered a mid end 3rd party heatsink, if change to other high end heatsink, the temps could go much lower i think... smile.gif

QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 15 2006, 04:01 PM)
man, his casing looks like mine..

one advise: change your rear 120mm fan to those high power out like TT 120mm Smart Fan < with speed controller. its default fan is too weak to suck the hot air from your casing.
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High Power Fan - High Noise
That's what most of us are trying to stay away... rclxub.gif

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wah this thread, from talking bout cpu temp become a fully fledged psu discussion thread...lol...
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No updates about he's cpu temperature? blink.gif

Or do i miss anything? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(edwuave @ Dec 15 2006, 02:35 AM)
im using stock AMD heatsink. this noon, i get a reading of 50+ C degree. i reapply the thermal paste(an even thin layer), the problem still persist. the thermal paste is a capalang one from lowyat. what is the problem here?
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Care to give us some pictures of how does you're internal cpu looks like? smile.gif
That way, we can identify either the case have a bad airflow or not lor... rclxms.gif
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yes the intel sys temp say its normal but jus when i on game leh it says overheat. DENG!

Happy to know sum1 tried change the heatsink n it successfuly reduce the processor heat.GLad to know it. rclxms.gif icon_rolleyes.gif thumbup.gif
THanks shawty.

But sad have to invest money

reduce temp = new heatsink = money
can write program d

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Even bad airflow wouldnt cause the proc to idle at 50C. I think your temp sensor gone bad as you said it doesnt feel hot.
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QUOTE(seveneleven @ Dec 16 2006, 06:24 AM)
Even bad airflow wouldnt cause the proc to idle at 50C. I think your temp sensor gone bad as you said it doesnt feel hot.
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it has nothing to do with the temp. sensor
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QUOTE(HCTH @ Dec 16 2006, 04:46 AM)
yes the intel sys temp say its normal but jus when i on game leh it says overheat. DENG!

Happy to know sum1 tried change the heatsink n it successfuly reduce the processor heat.GLad to know it.  rclxms.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  thumbup.gif
THanks shawty.

But sad have to invest money

reduce temp = new heatsink = money
can write program d

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haha.. creative fella.. if u want to get a good heatsink with reasonable price, get it from here. lowyat forum. there is many bulk around, selling nice heatsink.. if want to get a good heatsink, 200 is good enough. no need 300 la.. if 300, consider go for WC already.
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actaully u need bout 1k to start a decen wc rig but hey..i recomend u get a xp-90c is u dun mind the noise(u have to use a crazy fan to get the performance) and it shard to find. neway in ur case i think best is get a artic cooling freezer 7pro or a coolermaster hypertx ,both same design
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^ exactly wat i said...

neway i think u can get beter temps by remounting ur hsf or checking whether ur retention module is broken...happen to me befoe, on my old p4 478, blody crappy plastic clips broke and gave me crazy temps(60 on idle) then went to check , it was the retention module...
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dude, and maybe chanmge ur rear fan. if u dont need the extra bling bling that is ><
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dude, and maybe chanmge ur rear fan. if u dont need the extra bling bling that is ><
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i tink i m going to get a heatsink with the budget of rm200 like tat. i do tink i will invest better on it. Scare the cpu boom den sau pei. GOt tink also to sell my rig. But not sure got ppl wan o not. cry.gif zzzzzzzzzzzzzz have to wait my fren oso to go lowyat. vmad.gif Haih dey wan get their school loan den we go together oo. i so curious drool.gif d wana go ther get a better heatsink plus go ther c whether a got a better rig.


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y u use small fan?try using 120mm front and read one way air flow..inifinity works damn great with two fan..Try get a silverstone or ac ryan fan .
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QUOTE(Xperthero @ Dec 17 2006, 03:09 PM)
y u use small fan?try using 120mm front and read one way air flow..inifinity works damn great with two fan..Try get a silverstone or ac ryan fan .
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if put a 120mm fan in rear, how many RPM for the fan will be better? 3000rpm? wink.gif
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1600RPM is good enough for a 120mm fan.. 3000rpm is very noisy.
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y u use small fan?try using 120mm front and read one way air flow..inifinity works damn great with two fan..Try get a silverstone or ac ryan fan .
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not really true.
it works well with low speed fans, thats a better staement.
his rear fans are not pushing out hot air quick enuf, thus causing the hot air to be reused over and over again. u get the rough idea.
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QUOTE(HCTH @ Dec 17 2006, 12:50 PM)
i tink i m going to get a heatsink with the budget of rm200 like tat. i do tink i will invest better on it. Scare the cpu boom den sau pei. GOt tink also to sell my rig. But not sure got ppl wan o not.  cry.gif zzzzzzzzzzzzzz have to wait my fren oso to go lowyat.  vmad.gif Haih dey wan get their school loan den we go together oo. i so curious  drool.gif  d wana go ther get a better heatsink plus go ther c whether a got a better rig.
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Wher can get big typhoon. IT Market ar. Have to wait 1 week more eh. cry.gif
Duno my rig can stand for how long oh. i jus saw a catalog it says

Cooler Master Mini Aquagate 80MM/120MM rm225/rm295

Wat u guys think. THe price like ok a.But duno the performance how wan leh.
Big typhoon price at rm195 ooo. Worthy a.
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There is one other way man....,you have to connect the green cable to any black one (if i'm not mistaken...),that'll start up the second psu the minute ya power ya pc.......
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y u use small fan?try using 120mm front and read one way air flow..inifinity works damn great with two fan..Try get a silverstone or ac ryan fan .
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only got 2 80mm slots at back...U mean put another fan on Infinity ?
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only got 2 80mm slots at back...U mean put another fan on Infinity ?
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if put a 120mm fan in rear, how many RPM for the fan will be better? 3000rpm? wink.gif
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i'm using P4 2.8A, cooler master hyper 48 (just replaced) and Abit Is7
idle: 55 degree
load: 66 degree (casing is opened)

is the temperature is high?
anyway i forget to remove the old thermal paste and just apply the cooler master provided thermal paste on the cooler.. tongue.gif
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Take out the heatsink, remove all the thermal paste on both cooler and the processor IHS, reapply a new layer of thermal paste, careful not to put it too thick or too thin... smile.gif

There you should have a lower temps then what you're having right now... wink.gif
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the system temperature is around 38 degree when idle and 45 degree when load is normal?? (casing opened)
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something is not right there ... hmm.gif

u should have lower temp , since ur cpu is P4 2.8A

even my temp is lower than yours now. tongue.gif

p/s: (mine p4 530, 3.0 - Prescott)

check my sig ...

system temperature 38 is ok, 45 hmm.gif ...

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umm should be ok lah ur temp, coz even amd is abit higher..neway , chage ur tim or remount ur hsf, u should get beter temps...
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well not nessasary, u need to cross wire the green from the slave to the master psu and the black ,vice versa..a bit dangerous to do if u dun know how to do it, safest way is to get those they supply withthe lianli a10...
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QUOTE(mradrian @ Dec 18 2006, 08:37 PM)
the system temperature is around 38 degree when idle and 45 degree when load is normal?? (casing opened)
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if using stock cooler and opened case, that's considered normal..

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2.8A is prescott instead of northwood, so the temp for prescott normally is higher, so ur temp can consider is low ald...
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i thought prescott is E version..

anyway, remember to remove the layer of metal zink from your stock cooler if any. it is very lower the temp. this tip is from sHawTY. work like a charm for me.
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Dec 18 2006, 09:36 PM)
well not nessasary, u need to cross wire the green from the slave to the master psu and the black ,vice versa..a bit dangerous to do if u dun know how to do it, safest way is to get those they supply withthe lianli a10...
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another method is the short black and green wire at the psu.. but will auto-on once there's power.. haha..

use back the factory manufacturer connector is the best way!!

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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 19 2006, 09:12 AM)
i thought prescott is E version..

anyway, remember to remove the layer of metal zink from your stock cooler if any. it is very lower the temp. this tip is from sHawTY. work like a charm for me.
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coz my previous 2.4A is prescott so i though 2.8A also prescott... tongue.gif
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need info here guys im running on p4 3.0 630 asus mobo n cpu temp is 45c, system 50c, fan speed 4530rpm is it normal?
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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 19 2006, 09:12 AM)
i thought prescott is E version..

anyway, remember to remove the layer of metal zink from your stock cooler if any. it is very lower the temp. this tip is from sHawTY. work like a charm for me.
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Dec 19 2006, 11:02 AM)
sorry, my bad, prescott is E revision. notworthy.gif
coz my previous 2.4A is prescott so i though 2.8A also prescott... tongue.gif
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Aiyoh you guys, Prescott comes in two version liao...

The E family & the A family is both prescott liao... laugh.gif

Only B & C families are northwood... doh.gif
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QUOTE(shazmie @ Dec 19 2006, 11:31 AM)
need info here guys im running on p4 3.0 630 asus mobo n cpu temp is 45c, system 50c, fan speed 4530rpm is it normal?
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it is hot but considered normal.. you set manually set your fan speed? 4530rpm kinda of noisy

QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 19 2006, 01:19 PM)
Aiyoh you guys, Prescott comes in two version liao...

The E family & the A family is both prescott liao...  laugh.gif

Only B & C families are northwood... doh.gif
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never knew that smile.gif

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QUOTE(shazmie @ Dec 19 2006, 11:31 AM)
need info here guys im running on p4 3.0 630 asus mobo n cpu temp is 45c, system 50c, fan speed 4530rpm is it normal?
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wat cooler are u using?i think its kinda cool but 4k rpm is kinda too much too bare sweat.gif .mine is 40c idle and 60c at full load bt OCed to 3.0@3.6ghz P4630 same as yours.my cooler is giga g power pro(i think im getting xp120 after this sweat.gif still too hot!!!!)
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QUOTE(styloe @ Dec 19 2006, 05:25 PM)
wat cooler are u using?i think its kinda cool but 4k rpm is kinda too much too bare  sweat.gif .mine is 40c idle and 60c at full load bt OCed to 3.0@3.6ghz P4630 same as yours.my cooler is giga g power pro(i think im getting xp120 after this sweat.gif  still too hot!!!!)
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may i know which version of gigabyte G power that u using? with speed control or not.
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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 19 2006, 09:51 PM)
may i know which version of gigabyte G power that u using? with speed control or not.
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QUOTE(styloe @ Dec 19 2006, 05:25 PM)
wat cooler are u using?i think its kinda cool but 4k rpm is kinda too much too bare  sweat.gif .mine is 40c idle and 60c at full load bt OCed to 3.0@3.6ghz P4630 same as yours.my cooler is giga g power pro(i think im getting xp120 after this sweat.gif  still too hot!!!!)
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im using standard cooler..n the fan speed is fix..i mean the software adjust it auto..n its noisy..any recommendation?how much is giga g power pro or xp120?
any homepage for that brand?
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QUOTE(shazmie @ Dec 19 2006, 11:48 PM)
im using standard cooler..n the fan speed is fix..i mean the software adjust it auto..n its noisy..any recommendation?how much is giga g power pro or xp120?
any homepage for that brand?
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QUOTE(shazmie @ Dec 19 2006, 11:48 PM)
im using standard cooler..n the fan speed is fix..i mean the software adjust it auto..n its noisy..any recommendation?how much is giga g power pro or xp120?
any homepage for that brand?
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haiya u soo soo lazy.g power pro retails at rm165 at moderno.LYP not sure but definately pricierla(IMO if u have more $$$ to spend get 3d roket 2 almost rm200) as for xp120+ lga 775 priced at rm2++ if u can get it newla but then u have to spend 30-50bux for the fan of ur choice(good thngs doesnt come cheap my fren)
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bro just go and buy the artic cooling freezer if u can find it..very silent and cheap..less than 150rm, but performes comparable to the gpower pro..
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lol, theres alot of way to do it , but the best and also the cleanest method is to use the cable that they supply witht he a10...
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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Nov 14 2006, 04:22 PM)
Guys .. my pc suddenly gone so hot ..
lol !
my proc is now 47 degree wit a scythe infinity hsf + AS5 .. previously 36 - 38
and chipset 50 degree wit a dfi stockfan .. previously 40 to 47 like that ..
all fans are in full speed ..
why like that ar ???
what happen ?
suddenly i woke up from sleep i realise the temp so high .
i din even start oc yet ..
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hmmm i got the almost the same prob with u...mine was 54 on air cond room.. with TT big typhoon on PenD 3.4 no OC...

tried - open casing, update bios, remount... haizzz... any other solution ?
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I also using TT big typhoon VX on 6300c2d. The temps which i'm getting is almost the same as the stock cooler. around 48c . Quite disappointing actually.
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Hi,i'm using x2 3800+am2,idle temp about 48c
when i ply carbon with full effect,it reach 60c,ez normal?
using stock cooler btw...
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yes. the dualcore am2s are very hot.... urs is technically normal di if using stock cooling..
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yes. the dualcore am2s are very hot.... urs is technically normal di if using stock cooling..
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the warning sound was noisy shakehead.gif
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Can i add one industrial use cooling fans on my CPU ? If not mistaken, my father get it from some compressor and it is power from alternating current.
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QUOTE(kockroach @ Dec 27 2006, 09:19 PM)
Can i add one industrial use cooling fans on my CPU ? If not mistaken, my father get it from some compressor and it is power from alternating current.
Thanks in advance
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errr.... i think industrial type produce too much heat and use more electricity. not suitable IMO
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my friend's pc always freeze and i suspecting because of overheating

his pc specs
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the rear fan spin at max <3000 rpm only when testing using dell diagnostics.......is't normal and ok??
using speedfan 4.31, the only reading available is HD0 or is't HDD? 60'C

and this is the original topic with reference pics and more details (not getting much attention overthere)
Dell Dimension 4700 always freeze/hang

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QUOTE(speedoom @ Dec 29 2006, 01:34 AM)
my friend's pc always freeze and i suspecting because of overheating

his pc specs
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the rear fan spin at max <3000 rpm only...is't normal and ok??

and this is the original topic with reference pics and more details (not getting much attention overthere)
Dell Dimension 4700 always freeze/hang
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from the picture that you posted, there is several things that you need to do to solve the heat problem.

1. Must build an airflow in your casing.
Why?
A proper ventilation will keep your casing temp low because cooler air can get in your casing and hot air will be suck out. Else, like your case the heat produced by your computer parts will trap in the casing thus increase the temp.

Method:
Remove the green panel that attached to the rear of your casing. The rear fan will act as an output for your casing. Then check the front part of your casing whether is there a fan or not. If dont have, add one yourself. that one will act as your input. After doing that, your casing will have some basic ventilation.

Of course, you can always choose to change those fan to high power type for better results.

2. Manage your wire in your casing
Why?
Wire management as messy as yours will disrupt the airflow and indirect increase the casing temp

Method:
Just make your wires out of the way smile.gif tie or hide it behind your mobo is the easiest to do so.

3. Need a third party CPU Cooler
Why?
errr... how to say this? Dell stock cpu cooler SUCK!! it wont cool down your processor fast enough especially your 3.0E that famous for producing alot of heat.

Method:
Prepare a budget at least RM150 or RM200+. Read some of thread in this forum and decide which one suit you better. Thermalright, Scythe, Thermaltake and Noctua are some of the famous and reliable CPU Cooler Manufacturer.

Hope this help you.

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new prob here..
recently my psu kinda kaboom!
so,my bro buy the cap ayam brand 500W,
when i try 2 on my cpu back..it always off after few secs..
i try 2 on my cpu early in da moning,look at bios..
da cpu temp's when as high as 93º shocking.gif
then it off automatically
wat da hell happen?da cpu is like tryin 2 boil a glass of water!
so.. icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 29 2006, 02:08 AM)

3. Need a third party CPU Cooler
Why?
errr... how to say this? Dell stock cpu cooler SUCK!! it wont cool down your processor fast enough especially your 3.0E that famous for producing alot of heat.

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Bro, irangan, you can't fit in a 3rd party heatsinks on dell's motherboard, as their mounting position is so different with what intel aligned... laugh.gif

I've sold 3 different type of Dell Optiplex pc, and trust me, all of them have different mounting position compared to the original intel mounting position... sweat.gif

QUOTE(6shots @ Jan 1 2007, 09:10 AM)
new prob here..
recently my psu kinda kaboom!
so,my bro buy the cap ayam brand 500W,
when i try 2 on my cpu back..it always off after few secs..
i try 2 on my cpu early in da moning,look at bios..
da cpu temp's when as high as 93º  shocking.gif
then it off automatically
wat da hell happen?da cpu is like tryin 2 boil a glass of water!
so.. icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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What's you're full pc spec, state all the things here, even the harddisk drive and optical drive also, i suspect that you're psu is underpowered.. wink.gif

Bout the cpu temp as high as 93degrees, there should be a bug in you're motherboard sensor, the same problem i faced with my P5WD2-W premium before i send it for RMA purpose... laugh.gif

Give us you're full pc specs bro... wink.gif

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 1 2007, 09:16 AM)
Bro, irangan, you can't fit in a 3rd party heatsinks on dell's motherboard, as their mounting position is so different with what intel aligned... laugh.gif

I've sold 3 different type of Dell Optiplex pc, and trust me, all of them have different mounting position compared to the original intel mounting position... sweat.gif
What's you're full pc spec, state all the things here, even the harddisk drive and optical drive also, i suspect that you're psu is underpowered.. wink.gif

Bout the cpu temp as high as 93degrees, there should be a bug in you're motherboard sensor, the same problem i faced with my P5WD2-W premium before i send it for RMA purpose... laugh.gif

Give us you're full pc specs bro... wink.gif
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hmmm... i never noticed that... IMO, Dell rig cooling suck.. wont cool the processor fast enough.

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QUOTE(6shots @ Jan 1 2007, 09:10 AM)
new prob here..
recently my psu kinda kaboom!
so,my bro buy the cap ayam brand 500W,
when i try 2 on my cpu back..it always off after few secs..
i try 2 on my cpu early in da moning,look at bios..
da cpu temp's when as high as 93º  shocking.gif
then it off automatically
wat da hell happen?da cpu is like tryin 2 boil a glass of water!
so.. icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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maybe your heastsink fan didnt get enough juice from that cap ayam psu
the fan connector is't 4 or 3 pin type? connect to mb or direct to psu?


QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 1 2007, 09:16 AM)
Bro, irangan, you can't fit in a 3rd party heatsinks on dell's motherboard, as their mounting position is so different with what intel aligned... laugh.gif

I've sold 3 different type of Dell Optiplex pc, and trust me, all of them have different mounting position compared to the original intel mounting position... sweat.gif
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really?? omg rclxub.gif
i thought wanna suggest him to buy sycthe katana cu or noctua u9 and add additional 2 panaflo fans , but now doh.gif

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im using athlon64 3000 1.8ghz cooled with thermalright xp90 and as5..but i can feel that the temp is too hot..even idle oso reached approx 50C..is this considered normal?

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i use p4 2.4ghz prescott..the first time i use it the temperature is 65 degree celcius..the im thinking to buy a new heatsink ..but eventually i checked my proc and clean the old thick thermal paste on it with cotton but and the temperature drop to 47-57 celsius...and after that i clean it with alcohol i finally got a temperature of 57-58.....but if i on the aircon in my room, the temperature is 38.......cool maybe......only using the stock hsf....
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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Jan 4 2007, 10:51 AM)
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im using athlon64 3000 1.8ghz cooled with thermalright xp90 and as5..but i can feel that the temp is too hot..even idle oso reached approx 50C..is this considered normal?
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your temp is abit higher than normal. the performance of xp90 series heatsink lies on what type fan you using. change the fan to a more powerful type and you will see difference in performance smile.gif
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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 4 2007, 11:22 AM)
your temp is abit higher than normal. the performance of xp90 series heatsink lies on what type fan you using. change the fan to a more powerful type and you will see difference in performance smile.gif
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im using tt 90mm smartfan..but not at full speed as it will produce an annoying vibrate sound..sumtimes i increase the speed but not full only when playing games..

btw i barely clean properly the as5 when i took off the heatsink..
i juz cleaned it using tissue then reapply the as5..is this also a factor of my high temp?
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hop dat those experts can help me out ere..which temp shd be more reliable?

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my temperaute with case open 55C and close is 60C
caused by airflow?
how to improve without any chopping.....
using centurion 5, the famous bad engineered 80mm input 120mm output.....
cables all hide adi not blocking airflow
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QUOTE(frank_fusion @ Jan 4 2007, 05:32 PM)
hop dat those experts can help me out ere..which temp shd be more reliable?

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I would say that the TAT temperature would count.

80c is scorching hot! and the other core @ 75c ?? thats the biggest difference i've seen so far.

You should seriously consider reapplying AS5 to your heatsink if not get an aftermarket one.


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but in bios oso it show d same temp wif my easy tune..the big diff betw both core is oso another headache..is it somethg wrong wth my proc?
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ok, which readings more accurate, core temp shows 10c++ vs Smartguardian for my water cooling kit... 38c idle for core temp... 29c-31c for smartguardina idle depends on ambient... 51c for both core for opty 170 for core temp and 38c for smartguardian...
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Hm.. I dunno whether this post will help me with this, i recently just bought a thermaltake btvx with the coolmaster nanofusion thermalpaste. My question now is:
1. The thermaltake btvx seems so freaking heavy, will my motherboard and processor be able to handle the weight when it stays sidewords?
2. Hm.. Is there a guide or somesort to apply the correct method for the nanofusion.

Thx alot xD

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QUOTE(vassalle @ Jan 4 2007, 07:46 PM)
I would say that the TAT temperature would count.

80c is scorching hot! and the other core @ 75c ?? thats the biggest difference i've seen so far.

You should seriously consider reapplying AS5 to your heatsink if not get an aftermarket one.
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i had bought myself a new hsf but d temp juz reduced +-10...is it somthg wrong wif my mobo or other hw?btw dis is my new screenies..

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QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 4 2007, 07:34 PM)
my temperaute with case open 55C and close is 60C
caused by airflow?
how to improve without any chopping.....
using centurion 5, the famous bad engineered 80mm input 120mm output.....
cables all hide adi not blocking airflow
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the c5 is designed for exhaust>input. if don't like u can change to any expensive high end aluminium casing any time as u like. i didnt face any air flow problem. closed case temp almost 1-2c difference only with open case.
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QUOTE(CyberTroop @ Jan 8 2007, 12:08 AM)
Hm.. I dunno whether this post will help me with this, i recently just bought a thermaltake btvx with the coolmaster nanofusion thermalpaste. My question now is:
1. The thermaltake btvx seems so freaking heavy, will my motherboard and processor be able to handle the weight when it stays sidewords?
2. Hm.. Is there a guide or somesort to apply the correct method for the nanofusion.

Thx alot xD
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1. the mobo can support the weight whistling.gif no point they produced one & having problems with it, otherwise the product won't sell a lot biggrin.gif

2. just use the grain method -> apply a little TIM in a size of a rice grain & then mount ur heatsink, no need to spread it evenly as the heatsink will do that for you laugh.gif

& one more thing better u goolgle a lot for these kind of question, helps better understanding & faster instead waiting for people replying it cool2.gif

QUOTE(basSist @ Jan 8 2007, 04:06 AM)
the c5 is designed for exhaust>input. if don't like u can change to any expensive high end aluminium casing any time as u like. i didnt face any air flow problem. closed case temp almost 1-2c difference only with open case.
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wah, lucky for u didn't have any prob with air flow, cause i did with my previous c534 case, damn vmad.gif
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my e6300 oced to 2.66ghz at 380x7 with vcore 1.248v, when idle, i am getting 58c at 1st core and 56c and 2nd core with TAT reading. When under orthos stress, i am getting 70c and 68c highest. Is this normal? I am using mini typhoon with normal thermal paste.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 8 2007, 08:36 PM)
my e6300 oced to 2.66ghz at 380x7 with vcore 1.248v, when idle, i am getting 58c at 1st core and 56c and 2nd core with TAT reading. When under orthos stress, i am getting 70c and 68c highest. Is this normal? I am using mini typhoon with normal thermal paste.
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im afraid it doesnt seem very normal, have u tried to reapply the hsf? and maybe throw some AS5 in too!
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when re installing your heatsink, test and see whether is there a good contact between the processor and heatsink. if not, DIY to make it better contact.
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kk. I will try this in the weekend and if there's any prob i will seek u all again smile.gif i also think should be the thermal paste prob, becos it use stock thermal paste. Normally the temp is how much for a e6300 clocked to 2.8ghz? I mean normally la, just rough figure for me to know.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 9 2007, 08:24 AM)
kk. I will try this in the weekend and if there's any prob i will seek u all again smile.gif i also think should be the thermal paste prob, becos it use stock thermal paste. Normally the temp is how much for a e6300 clocked to 2.8ghz? I mean normally la, just rough figure for me to know.
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i hav a question here..
before this i used GIgabyte GA-8N-SLi mobo..

and i can use everest ultimate edition to monitor my cpu temp..

but now after change to a new mobo (Foxconn, see my sig) i cant see the cpu temp in the everest software.

anyone know how to solve this? now i'm using FOxconn software (it's called FoxOne) to monitor it, which i don't quite like..cuz it cant display the temps on system tray. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 9 2007, 08:24 AM)
kk. I will try this in the weekend and if there's any prob i will seek u all again smile.gif i also think should be the thermal paste prob, becos it use stock thermal paste. Normally the temp is how much for a e6300 clocked to 2.8ghz? I mean normally la, just rough figure for me to know.
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of clocked till 2.8Ghz.. around 50c +_ 5. depends on ur air flow in ur case and ur vcore applied.

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i hav a question here..
before this i used GIgabyte GA-8N-SLi mobo..

and i can use everest ultimate edition to monitor my cpu temp..

but now after change to a new mobo (Foxconn, see my sig) i cant see the cpu temp in the everest software.

anyone know how to solve this? now i'm using FOxconn software (it's called FoxOne) to monitor it, which i don't quite like..cuz it cant display the temps on system tray. sweat.gif
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hm.. maybe the Everest doesn't support the mobo. try to find other software. Speedfan?
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QUOTE(basSist @ Jan 11 2007, 02:45 PM)
hm.. maybe the Everest doesn't support the mobo. try to find other software. Speedfan?
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speedfan can minimize to system tray?with my cpu temp shown as an icon in system tray?
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edit: sorry double post. crappy hostel internet connection. damn it vmad.gif

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QUOTE(coolmast3r @ Jan 11 2007, 05:18 PM)
speedfan can minimize to system tray?with my cpu temp shown as an icon in system tray?
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i am not sure can minimize not but when u open speedfan there is a icon in system tray showing the temp. but .. not showing the core temp just cpu temp (in case u are using dual core)
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i feel my cpu temperature is quiet high .. 35 when just start computer , 45'c after dota(play 1hr)
but i am using watercooling ...
my room temperature is about 30-33'c ..
y still so high ..
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1) what type of watercooling are u using?
2) are u sure the contact between the CPU and the Wc block is good? maybe try re-installing and replace the thermal paste
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just install oh ... everything is ok de ..
wat is ur normal temperature ?
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QUOTE(basSist @ Jan 11 2007, 05:22 PM)
i am not sure can minimize not but when u open speedfan there is a icon in system tray showing the temp. but .. not showing the core temp just cpu temp (in case u are using dual core)
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eh? rclxub.gif
am i missing something here?

what's the different between those two, cpu and core temp? are'nt they the same thing?
iv'e heard of TAT temps, is that core temps?
then what is CPU temps?
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last time fan cooling also like this temperature ...
haiz ... built-in thermometer poblem ...

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QUOTE(coolmast3r @ Jan 12 2007, 12:45 AM)
oh, i see..

eh? rclxub.gif
am i missing something here?

what's the different between those two, cpu and core temp? are'nt they the same thing?
iv'e heard of TAT temps, is that core temps?
then what is CPU temps?
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CPU temp is the temp measured by the mobo's sensor. also it can be called as CPU's case temp. coz the sensor is measuring the temp from the cover/case of the cpu.

Core temp is the temp measured by the diode inside the cpu itself. that's why core temp is much more hotter than cpu temp.


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ur temperature is high for a WC kit.
unless its a high end kit, u wont see a significant diff in temps
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Threadstarter, mind to tell us what kind of watercooling kit u're using for u're processor? smile.gif
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QUOTE(basSist @ Jan 12 2007, 02:20 AM)
CPU temp is the temp measured by the mobo's sensor. also it can be called as CPU's case temp. coz the sensor is measuring the temp from the cover/case of the cpu.

Core temp is the temp measured by the diode inside the cpu itself. that's why core temp is much more hotter than cpu temp.
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will go and try speedfan soon thumbup.gif.
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no wonder ur temps are so high, ur WC kit is not sufficient for the proc u are using.
try using the stock HSF and see whether thereis a significant diff between ur WC kit and stock HSF
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guys i saw in everest software and found up that my cpu got 2 different temperature sensor. 1 of them is call cpu diode and the another wan is called
cpu temp... i dunno which wan is right.

guys any experience on this ?

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QUOTE(Mcrae @ Jan 16 2007, 08:03 PM)
guys i saw in everest software and found up that my cpu got 2 different temperature sensor. 1 of them is call cpu diode and the another wan is called
cpu diode... i dunno which wan is right.

guys any experience on this ?
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Did my eyes have some problems?
i cant answer u right now~ laugh.gif

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question: i'm using intel pentium D 820,is 70+ C degrees too high?looks really unnormal to me.pls advise.using original intel CPU fan.
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QUOTE(basSist @ Jan 17 2007, 12:29 AM)
Did my eyes have some problems? 
i cant answer u right now~ laugh.gif
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QUOTE(saoirse @ Jan 17 2007, 12:42 AM)
question: i'm using intel pentium D 820,is 70+ C degrees too high?looks really unnormal to me.pls advise.using original intel CPU fan.
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You can try Noctua NH-12F if you can afford RM200 for the cooler, or RM170 for NH-12 (without fan)...if you can't afford, you can refer to this thread for your budget HSF... biggrin.gif
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Got my TTBT yesterday.. happy. laugh.gif
But maybe i lock the HSF too tight.. the'H shape' bracket bend alrdy. ( bend alot sad.gif )
Have one question here about TTBT. I locked the bracket ( which stick to the HSF base) horizontally. I think its the rite way. Or should i lock it vertically for better cooling?
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I'm using XP120 and my full load is about 65C. Am running on a Presshot core 3.0GHz, I'm thinking it might be cause by my casing perhaps? Since it only has 2 80cm intake and 2 80cm exhaust at the back.

Any recommendation on a good airflow casing?

I'm thinking of getting a Centurion 532. Or any other suggestions? Thanx.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 22 2007, 12:06 PM)
I'm using XP120 and my full load is about 65C. Am running on a Presshot core 3.0GHz, I'm thinking it might be cause by my casing perhaps? Since it only has 2 80cm intake and 2 80cm exhaust at the back.

Any recommendation on a good airflow casing?

I'm thinking of getting a Centurion 532. Or any other suggestions? Thanx.
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hm.. how much is ur budget first? if wanna good airflow .. can consider lian li's wan. anyway u can seek more guidance for which type of casing in Casing and Modifications subforum wink.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 22 2007, 12:06 PM)
I'm using XP120 and my full load is about 65C. Am running on a Presshot core 3.0GHz, I'm thinking it might be cause by my casing perhaps? Since it only has 2 80cm intake and 2 80cm exhaust at the back.

Any recommendation on a good airflow casing?

I'm thinking of getting a Centurion 532. Or any other suggestions? Thanx.
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532 will do if u really are in tight budget .... but i would personally suggest to go for Lian Li PC7 for RM 308... the air flow would be better as the HDD cage doesn't block much airflow as the CM 532... but there would be slight noise when using lian li hdd cage... it does not absorb or prevent the vibration much ...

i own both of the case before thumbup.gif
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Guys, I'm using ASUS 7600GS silent type.... then when i check the temperature using everest, it shows the GC temp is at 80+ celcius. I think that should be overheat rite?
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 22 2007, 12:06 PM)
I'm using XP120 and my full load is about 65C. Am running on a Presshot core 3.0GHz, I'm thinking it might be cause by my casing perhaps? Since it only has 2 80cm intake and 2 80cm exhaust at the back.

Any recommendation on a good airflow casing?

I'm thinking of getting a Centurion 532. Or any other suggestions? Thanx.
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532 is almost impossible to find in shops, i think only modernopc.com has them.....
the one available is 530, identical design but no tooless and cd rom are hidden
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Well I had that 532 in mind... How's the performance actually? Because I might change to a new comp later on. Don't really need such a good casing yet..but need something good enough to remove the heat.

I thought of 532 because of the 120mm fan intake and 120mm fan exhaust as compared to my current which is using 2 80mm for intake and 2 80mm for exhaust.
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i would say that coolermaster centurion5 has a good air flow.
mostly because of the metal mesh at the front panel.
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if my casing is so freaking hot but my core temp is low.. is it normal?
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i need help here..what is the 84c temperature?its not the proc temp.
i dono what temp is that.. rclxub.gif
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i need help here..what is the 84c temperature?its not the proc temp.
i dono what temp is that.. rclxub.gif
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I think you better go to download latest speedfan, if not mistake is 4.31 or 4.32...

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+12V: 10.75V sweat.gif

Maybe you want to try PC Wizard 2006...try googling for it... icon_rolleyes.gif
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I always use divider to OC my processor due to my RAM cannot go high , using 2.6v and 2.5-3-3-8 . Now i found one problem .

I tried to turn off my processor fan to try maximum temperature my processor can stand ( hand itchy tongue.gif ) . Until 57°C blue screen shows up but i think overheated processor should directly turn off the PC ( BIOS set to 60°C & 70°C same result ) .

Later i found out the RAMs very hot ( normally processor fan blow to RAMs ) .

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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 29 2007, 01:35 PM)
I think you better go to download latest speedfan, if not mistake is 4.31 or 4.32...

temp3 1C rclxub.gif
+12V: 10.75V  sweat.gif

Maybe you want to try PC Wizard 2006...try googling for it...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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hey guys im using a amd x2 3600+ and an asus m2n-e ...my temp is showing about 50...gulp...is it too hot? stock cooler...12 cm side fan...80mm top fan...but pc on 24 hourslar ..
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QUOTE(treason @ Feb 7 2007, 01:10 PM)
hey guys im using a amd x2 3600+ and an asus m2n-e ...my temp is showing about 50...gulp...is it too hot? stock cooler...12 cm side fan...80mm top fan...but pc on 24 hourslar ..
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50'C is full load temp or idle?
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idle.....without air cond in the room...ohh i just tried core temp...shows

core #0 at 33-35
core #1 at 39-40

load

core #0 at 42-44
core #1 at 47-49

normal? thanks alot!!! really appreciate the help...

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Looks normal to me since you are using stock cooler only. Anyway, if you have the money, i think it is better for you to invest into 3rd party heatsink since you on your 24/7. Can prolong your lifespan of your rig smile.gif
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oks! thanks so much...just researching which 3rd party heatsink to get now only hehe
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oks! thanks so much...just researching which 3rd party heatsink to get now only hehe
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I took out my stock HSF cleaned dust and mount it back that day. Then problem comes, it automatically shuted down after like 30 seconds of running. I manage to enter BIOS for few sec, I saw wow the proc temp jump sky high. Start from 50C then 80C then 90C then 102C then pops shuted down.
So scared I fried my proc. cry.gif
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QUOTE(saoirse @ Feb 14 2007, 12:24 PM)
I took out my stock HSF cleaned dust and mount it back that day. Then problem comes, it automatically shuted down after like 30 seconds of running. I manage to enter BIOS for few sec, I saw wow the proc temp jump sky high. Start from 50C then 80C then 90C then 102C then pops shuted down.
So scared I fried my proc. cry.gif
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Have you try to remount your HSF like I told you? Last time when I just brought my Pentium D 820, I facing about the same problem, it will auto shut down after running for about 30 seconds to 1 minutes...then when I check it back, it is due to the 1 of the push pin jump out, so it have very bad contact between IHS and HSF...maybe you can try to check whether your push pin is in or not... hope this help a bit... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yah i have the same problem with any cooler that use push pin .. it loosen when the case been move around . even for very short distance ...

it just not that easy to secure it properly.. if it is original intel heatisnk it's still fine as not too heavy ..


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Ya, if is those big big HS with push pin...I dare not to put it into my casing liao lor...so dangerous...can break the GC if it drop... sweat.gif
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i really don't understand why they even implement the push pin design as it is not suitable for heavy cooler ....

i think most of the manufacturer test it on the board that lay on top of something instead mount in vertical direction ...

the damage would be really serious gc, chipset cooler, and the most precious the casing ... coz once scratch there's hardly return for it ...
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QUOTE(Doom @ Feb 17 2007, 10:52 AM)
i really don't understand why they even implement the push pin design as it is not suitable for heavy cooler .... 

i think most of the manufacturer test it on the board that lay on top of something instead mount in vertical direction ...

the damage would be really serious gc, chipset cooler, and the most precious the casing ... coz once scratch there's hardly return for it ...
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yeahh, thinkin' the same here
same such my BTVX, large & heavy HSf

manufacturer using the method of push pin same with ori stock hsf
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that heat sink also using the push pin mechanism ??

if so it is really poor as the heatsink is so large and the fan isn't small in the same time ...

who come out with the idea using push pin really lack of sense in mind...

how would four small plastic could hold the heat sink firmly ... they need to go back to the design board... even though it is easier to install but actually not practical for after market heat sink unless in the low profile category only..
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can any1 give me some recomendation?
i using stock heat sink

my cpu temp is 65c at full load, i just dontwan overheat at full load, idle temp is not important, temperature surrounded is 28c

my budget is RM150, and not tower casing, something like CM HYPER TX still can fit but Thermalright HR01 cant fit, any 1 can help pls?

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QUOTE(Auraguy @ Feb 20 2007, 04:23 PM)
can any1 give me some recomendation?
i using stock heat sink

my cpu temp is 65c at full load, i just dontwan overheat at full load, idle temp is not important, temperature surrounded is 28c

my budget is RM150, and not tower casing, something like CM HYPER TX still can fit but Thermalright HR01 cant fit, any 1 can help pls?

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in that case just go for the hyper tx. or thermalright SI-120, SI-128
those are good hsfs smile.gif
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Yeah, for your budget, Hyper TX will be good enough to cool down your e6300... soulfly get quite nice result using the Hyper TX...but of course the casing uses and the air flow of your casing will bring different result lar... icon_rolleyes.gif
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casing should not be a problem because i using CM Elite 331, is a case the full of wind, hehe brows.gif brows.gif

the only problem is the cpu temp, cause i going for overclock to make a better performance, but now looks like it been slowing down when overheated, will be hang then ok then hang then ok
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QUOTE(Auraguy @ Feb 22 2007, 04:12 PM)
casing should not be a problem because i using CM Elite 331, is a case the full of wind, hehe brows.gif  brows.gif

the only problem is the cpu temp, cause i going for overclock to make a better performance, but now looks like it been slowing down when overheated, will be hang then ok then hang then ok
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Then that is good lor...get yourself the Hyper TX, only RM135 from Moderno IIRC...lower than your budget...should be able to cooldown it even when OC... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Feb 22 2007, 08:53 PM)
Then that is good lor...get yourself the Hyper TX, only RM135 from Moderno IIRC...lower than your budget...should be able to cooldown it even when OC... icon_rolleyes.gif
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yeah but please do consider the SI-120
seems to me that it contends very well compared to TT BT, and all that.
SI-128 would be even better with the fin density difference and all that.
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yes..cm hyper tx is quite good..im using it for my rig..and if im not mistaken only 42 degree when full load..
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jus wondering any guys using 3rd party hsf n running 3.6ghz for e6600 wat temp they got on air cooling?idle n load perhaps..
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QUOTE

yeah but please do consider the SI-120
seems to me that it contends very well compared to TT BT, and all that.
SI-128 would be even better with the fin density difference and all that.


SI-120 sure is nice but is out of my budget, TT BT also out of budget , i saw them perform quiet good when i reading those post in heat sink round up , afterthen i realize that CM HYPER TX is almost same like HR-01, but the price different RM50, it should be perform like HR-01, so i think i going for HYPER TX


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yes..cm hyper tx is quite good..im using it for my rig..and if im not mistaken only 42 degree when full load..



u using wat processor??


and i just wondering are there others hsf is cheaper than HYPER TX but good performance?? cause i wan to save money to buy CM extreme power 550watts
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QUOTE(Auraguy @ Feb 23 2007, 04:03 PM)
SI-120 sure is nice but is out of my budget, TT BT also out of budget , i saw them perform quiet good when i reading those post in heat sink round up , afterthen i realize that CM HYPER TX is almost same like HR-01, but the price different RM50, it should be perform like HR-01, so i think i going for HYPER TX
u using wat processor??
and i just wondering are there others hsf is cheaper than HYPER TX but good performance?? cause i wan to save money to buy CM extreme power 550watts
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i think the HR-01 will still out-perform the hyper tx.
judging by the fin density and all that taken into consideration smile.gif
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yea, but it seems to be too expensive for me , so HR-01 is out of my budget , HR-01 is also my 1st interested hsf , but now the 2 problem on HR-01 for me 1)expensive 2)too tall

so i cant buy a hsf that cant fit in my case and out of budget , HYPER TX will be great but
i hate the helmet that change the direction of the hot air towards mobo.
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Please tell me this is normal..

Proc: E6400 running stock
Mobo: Asrock 775Dual-VSTA
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Thermal Paste : AS5
Ambient temp: 30c

Temp Idle : 48 / 46
TAT Full Load : 60 / 58

Temp measured in TAT and also CoreTemp.

IS this normal for my E6400.. i heard ppl doing idling at 30-40c. Ive tried reapply AS5 and almost get same result..

Thanks~

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hrmm. my X2 3600+ @ 2.5ghz runs at ~35c on idle and ~72c on load.

i was like WTH!?!?!? idle and load also almost 40c apart ah?

oh well, i just installed my X2 unit and tested it this morning. biggrin.gif just can't believe the temperature gap, usually i see idle and load like only 20c apart.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 2 2007, 10:29 AM)
hrmm. my X2 3600+ @ 2.5ghz runs at ~35c on idle and ~72c on load.

i was like WTH!?!?!? idle and load also almost 40c apart ah?

oh well, i just installed my X2 unit and tested it this morning. biggrin.gif just can't believe the temperature gap, usually i see idle and load like only 20c apart.
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wow...different 37C...my Pentium D 820 @ 2.8GHz have 20C different I already very upset liao...to think your got that big gap... doh.gif try to reinstall the HS...see got improve or not... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Mar 2 2007, 01:59 PM)
wow...different 37C...my Pentium D 820 @ 2.8GHz have 20C different I already very upset liao...to think your got that big gap... doh.gif  try to reinstall the HS...see got improve or not... icon_rolleyes.gif
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i rest assure you the heatsink don't have big gap, or else it wouldn't stay at 36c in the first place. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 2 2007, 10:29 AM)
hrmm. my X2 3600+ @ 2.5ghz runs at ~35c on idle and ~72c on load.

i was like WTH!?!?!? idle and load also almost 40c apart ah?

oh well, i just installed my X2 unit and tested it this morning. biggrin.gif just can't believe the temperature gap, usually i see idle and load like only 20c apart.
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What heatsink you are using? If it is stock cooler, your result and temp is normal. Those stock or low end cooler cant disperse the heat fast enough during full load.


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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 2 2007, 03:29 PM)
i rest assure you the heatsink don't have big gap, or else it wouldn't stay at 36c in the first place. biggrin.gif
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I am not saying your heatsink have big gap lar... doh.gif I am talking about your temp... sweat.gif like you say in previous post, 37C is a big gap for the Idle and load temp... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Mar 2 2007, 05:28 PM)
I am not saying your heatsink have big gap lar...  doh.gif  I am talking about your temp... sweat.gif like you say in previous post, 37C is a big gap for the Idle and load temp... icon_idea.gif
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k k sorry. biggrin.gif misinterpret the message.

yes. very big gap.

now i on air-con, idle is 26c - 28c while load is around 63c - 65c

yeah, comes to about 37c also. my A64 also show only 20c gap.

oh well.....
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 2 2007, 06:03 PM)
k k sorry. biggrin.gif misinterpret the message.

yes. very big gap.

now i on air-con, idle is 26c - 28c while load is around 63c - 65c

yeah, comes to about 37c also. my A64 also show only 20c gap.

oh well.....
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nvm...sometime I misinterpret too... tongue.gif

You using stock cooler or 3rd party cooler? or the x2 is extreme hot when load... doh.gif
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QUOTE(intune @ Mar 2 2007, 09:18 AM)
Please tell me this is normal..

Proc: E6400 running stock
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Casing: OPENUP
Thermal Paste : AS5
Ambient temp: 30c

Temp Idle : 48 / 46
TAT Full Load : 60 / 58

Temp measured in TAT and also CoreTemp.

IS this normal for my E6400.. i heard ppl doing idling at 30-40c. Ive tried reapply AS5 and almost get same result..

Thanks~
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QUOTE(intune @ Mar 3 2007, 03:44 PM)
Anyone? whats normal idle temp on core 2?
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You gotta check whether you re-seat your HSf correctly or not, LGA775 uses the stupid push pins sometimes can miss out one leg (not fully in).

Either that or you over-apply the AS5, use 1/2 grain rice size (lebih kurang) smile.gif
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Mar 3 2007, 09:04 PM)
You gotta check whether you re-seat your HSf correctly or not, LGA775 uses the stupid push pins sometimes can miss out one leg (not fully in).

Either that or you over-apply the AS5, use 1/2 grain rice size (lebih kurang)  smile.gif
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well i aggree on the stupid push pins..

use 1/2 grain rice size - meaning 1 line of 1/2 grain rice size .. or just 1/2 grain rice size (sikit giler) of AS5 paste?

I reseat the hsf.. applying 1/2 grain AS5 ..

Current coretemp:

44/42 Idle



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QUOTE(intune @ Mar 3 2007, 10:20 PM)
well i aggree on the stupid push pins..

use 1/2 grain rice size - meaning 1 line of 1/2 grain rice size .. or just 1/2 grain rice size (sikit giler) of AS5 paste?

I reseat the hsf.. applying 1/2 grain AS5 ..

Current coretemp:

44/42 Idle
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What HS you use? stock Intel HS? If using stock HS, 44/42C should be normal gua...I am not too sure...they can get 30C to 40C mostly I think is use after market HS... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Mar 3 2007, 11:00 PM)
What HS you use? stock Intel HS? If using stock HS, 44/42C should be normal gua...I am not too sure...they can get 30C to 40C mostly I think is use after market HS... icon_rolleyes.gif
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im using stock HSF
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anyone experience tis, my PD 840 temp when load 69C n idle 55C, i'm using Tt beetle at full speed n no casing.... my mobo shut down temp 70C.....

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QUOTE(deto-master @ Mar 7 2007, 06:10 PM)
anyone experience tis, my PD 840 temp when load 69C n idle 55C, i'm using Tt beetle at full speed n no casing.... my mobo shut down temp 70C.....
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Ah, another Pentium D 8XX bro here.. the temps are very high for this series of processor. You could check if the thermal paste is applied correctly (remove previous thermal paste with Arctic Cleaner).

Mine idles at around 50 also, and load go all the way to 80C and shutdown (mobo software protection)

Probably should change your HSF to tower type like Scythe Ninja or similar...
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QUOTE(deto-master @ Mar 7 2007, 06:10 PM)
anyone experience tis, my PD 840 temp when load 69C n idle 55C, i'm using Tt beetle at full speed n no casing.... my mobo shut down temp 70C.....
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Wow your temps are really high..suggest you reapply thermal paste to your proc...coz pentium d's especially the 8xx series will start to thermal throttle around 60C...which means less performance from the proc....
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QUOTE(BurgerRI @ Mar 7 2007, 06:48 PM)
Wow your temps are really high..suggest you reapply thermal paste to your proc...coz pentium d's especially the 8xx series will start to thermal throttle around 60C...which means less performance from the proc....
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ya, that true...I don't know other mobo can or not, but mine can disable the throttle thingy...

@deto-master
my Pentium D 820 higher load also only 67C nia...and idle at 44C-47C depend on weather... icon_rolleyes.gif btw, I am using Noctua NH-U12F... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Mar 7 2007, 08:06 PM)
ya, that true...I don't know other mobo can or not, but mine can disable the throttle thingy...

@deto-master
my Pentium D 820 higher load also only 67C nia...and idle at 44C-47C depend on weather... icon_rolleyes.gif  btw, I am using Noctua NH-U12F... thumbup.gif
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Yes but the TDP for 830 and above is 130W, 820 is 95W, thats the problem.

Anyways a Noctua will be sweet on the 840, best to take that as a value-performance hsf...
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Mar 7 2007, 09:30 PM)
Yes but the TDP for 830 and above is 130W, 820 is 95W, thats the problem.

Anyways a Noctua will be sweet on the 840, best to take that as a value-performance hsf...
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Mar 3 2007, 11:00 PM)
What HS you use? stock Intel HS? If using stock HS, 44/42C should be normal gua...I am not too sure...they can get 30C to 40C mostly I think is use after market HS... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Bought a CM Hyper TX rclxms.gif

Now idle at 40/37

Load no more then 55/52

Anyways have anyone tried applying AS5 on the hyper tx?.. because the Hyper tx comes with its own thermal pad.

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QUOTE(intune @ Mar 8 2007, 09:54 PM)
Bought a CM Hyper TX  rclxms.gif

Now idle at 40/37

Load no more then 55/52

Anyways have anyone tried applying AS5 on the hyper tx?.. because the Hyper tx comes with its own thermal pad.
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IIRC, thermal pad not that good. it is better to use TIM.
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QUOTE(irangan @ Mar 9 2007, 01:29 AM)
IIRC, thermal pad not that good. it is better to use TIM.
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Correction: its not thermal pad rather thermal compound. Is it better to scrap that off and apply AS5?

If so.. whats the best way to take the compound off without really damaging the base??

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QUOTE(intune @ Mar 9 2007, 10:02 AM)
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Correction: its not thermal pad rather thermal compound. Is it better to scrap that off and apply AS5?

If so.. whats the best way to take the compound off without really damaging the base??
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use alcohol base solution on it and wipe it off with cotton bud.
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QUOTE(irangan @ Mar 9 2007, 05:48 PM)
use alcohol base solution on it and wipe it off with cotton bud.
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introduce: arcticlean
2step easy cleaning solution.nice n easy.
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QUOTE(saoirse @ Mar 10 2007, 12:43 PM)
introduce: arcticlean
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u dont really need this.
using a normal tissue paper and slight amount of alcohol (u know, those things they use to clean ur skin before they inject u),. and u are good to go
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Mar 10 2007, 02:38 PM)
u dont really need this.
using a normal tissue paper and slight amount of alcohol (u know, those things they use to clean ur skin before they inject u),. and u are good to go
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well i used just about the same - as long it's alcohol (Tape recorder cleaner or perfume laugh.gif) will do...i must say it worked...thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(intune @ Mar 9 2007, 10:02 AM)
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Correction: its not thermal pad rather thermal compound. Is it better to scrap that off and apply AS5?

If so.. whats the best way to take the compound off without really damaging the base??
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just scrape it using credit card or prepaid card, then use tissue with alcohol or arctic cleaner or any others to clean it will do... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Mar 10 2007, 02:40 PM)
well i used just about the same - as long it's alcohol (Tape recorder cleaner or perfume laugh.gif) will do...i must say it worked...thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Mar 10 2007, 10:21 PM)
dont use perfume. other chemicals might cause a very nasty chemical reaction, and god knows what will happen
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doh.gif, owh god, really, i thought, i can just use it, anyway...i used it already, lucky didn't get into trouble...thanks for head up dude...next time no more perfume

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Mar 10 2007, 10:35 PM)
doh.gif, owh god, really, i thought, i can just use it, anyway...i used it already, lucky didn't get into trouble...thanks for head up dude...next time no more perfume
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Huh?
Last time when i didn't bought the artic cleaner, i use it hundreds of times.
Even use CK One to clean the IHS of most processor. laugh.gif

And sometime i even use the CK One on the uncovered processor core. tongue.gif
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hi all,

my notebook idle temperature is pretty weird la..

see this pics:

SENSORVIEW


user posted image

EVEREST

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SPEEDFAN

user posted image


i don't know what the value if i'm playing games. and now i just bought notebook cooler,
NotePal (R9-NBC-ADAS)

but there're not much difference, idle is only about 64*c-65*c...
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QUOTE(neuromancerx @ Mar 10 2007, 11:38 PM)
hi all,

my notebook idle temperature is pretty weird la..

see this pics:

SENSORVIEW



EVEREST


SPEEDFAN

i don't know what the value if i'm playing games. and now i just bought notebook cooler, 
NotePal (R9-NBC-ADAS)

but there're not much difference, idle is only about 64*c-65*c...
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Answer this two question:

1) What's the age of your notebook?
2) How often & how long do you use your notebook in one day?

I have an assumption on why does that happens, but, i need you to answer those two question above first. smile.gif
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my laptop age is about 1 year 3 month i think. ASUS A6R.
on average my lappy runs about 18 hrs per day. before i used that sensor software, i didn't notice any performance drop or system freeze. everything is fine i think.
as usual,when i'm playing games the system going hot but after 5-7 minutes i finished playing games, it returns to normal. no BSOD or else.
is my sensor reporting incorrect value? but, i tried several software and the value is almost same.
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QUOTE(neuromancerx @ Mar 11 2007, 12:02 AM)
my laptop age is about 1 year 3 month i think. ASUS A6R.
on average my lappy runs about 18 hrs per day. before i used that sensor software, i didn't notice any performance drop or system freeze. everything is fine i think.
as usual,when i'm playing games the system going hot but after 5-7 minutes i finished playing games, it returns to normal. no BSOD or else.
is my sensor reporting incorrect value? but, i tried several software and the value is almost same.
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Okay, i know why this thing happens just after i see you're saying that your notebook "runs about 18hrs a day"

My assumptions, Easy:

Your notebook processor heatsink is already full of dust. smile.gif

I've seen many notebooks that face this kind of trouble.
And all of them has the same problem:
Heatsink A.K.A. processor cooling fan is already full of dust, and your heatsink @ processor cooler is choking with some fresh air. smile.gif
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Edit:
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My customers are UiTM Shah Alam stundents. smile.gif

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thanks sHawTY, i've once opened the cpu cover at the back of the laptop cover. and i've examined the fans and the copper, the cpu fan is not too dusty, maybe there're not enough fresh air going into the fan (i think)..and i'm afraid to void the warranty because there're some sticker covering the fan's screw. but, i agree and respect with your opinion.

laptop fans is more hard to compared to desktop... cry.gif

//i'm a UiTM Shah Alam student, living in Section 7 sweat.gif

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QUOTE(neuromancerx @ Mar 11 2007, 12:16 AM)
thanks sHawTY, i've once opened the cpu cover at the back of the laptop cover. and i've examined the fans and the copper, the cpu fan is not too dusty, maybe there're not enough fresh air going into the fan (i think)..and i'm afraid to void the warranty because there're some sticker covering the fan's screw. but, i agree and respect with your opinion.

laptop fans is more hard to compared to desktop... cry.gif

//i'm a UiTM Shah Alam student, living in Section 7  sweat.gif
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im suggestin' u get a lappy cooler(dunno what the correct name)
look like a pad but beneath got 3-4 blowier fan to keep ur lappy c0oL
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 10 2007, 11:28 PM)
Huh?
Last time when i didn't bought the artic cleaner, i use it hundreds of times.
Even use CK One to clean the IHS of most processor. laugh.gif

And sometime i even use the CK One on the uncovered processor core. tongue.gif
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no wonder your buyer said nice good things about you, you sold them fragrence processor tongue.gif laugh.gif anyway
i used it because, just like you said, my AS5 finish already, and just use the perfume, known the fact that perfume contains alcohol and evaporate fast smile.gif
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QUOTE(neuromancerx @ Mar 11 2007, 12:16 AM)
thanks sHawTY, i've once opened the cpu cover at the back of the laptop cover. and i've examined the fans and the copper, the cpu fan is not too dusty, maybe there're not enough fresh air going into the fan (i think)..and i'm afraid to void the warranty because there're some sticker covering the fan's screw. but, i agree and respect with your opinion.

laptop fans is more hard to compared to desktop... cry.gif
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Hard?
I can do that in just 30 minutes.

Seriously, your heatsink is full of dust.
It's up to you to trust me or not. smile.gif

You can only see clearly either the heatsink is full of dust or not if you open the whole notebook casing.

I've repaired hunderds of notebook before.
And 50% of them are facing the same problem as yours.

What i do is:

1) Open the whole notebook casing
2) Take out the heatsink & clean it thoroughly
3) Clean the old thermal paste
4) Put a new layer of Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste
5) Put everything back to where it was
6) Inspect the new temperature details

And after doing that, their notebook runs even smoother than ever. thumbup.gif

FYI, only 1% of those notebook i've repaired used thermal paste.
The other 99%, just use a chapalang black thermal pad that is not really good in conducting hot temperatures from the processor's die to the heatsink.

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How long does asus gives warranty to their notebooks? blink.gif


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i'm using a lappy cooler right now, Cooler Master R9-NBC-ADAS.

at time i'm writing this post, the temperature is 71*c, but when i touch the cpu, it's not that too hot, it's warm as i can put my face on it (maybe around 30*C-45*C).

maybe the air condition/ventilation in my room is quiet hot, or i'm suspecting the sensor device reporting an incorrect value (just to ease my heart)

to sHawTY:

please do this via pm smile.gif

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to gengstapo:

i'm using a lappy cooler right now, Cooler Master R9-NBC-ADAS.

at time i'm writing this post, the temperature is 71*c, but when i touch the cpu, it's not that too hot, it's warm as i can put my face on it (maybe around 30*C-45*C).

maybe the air condition/ventilation in my room is quiet hot, or i'm suspecting the sensor device reporting an incorrect value (just to ease my heart)
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as long u can feel it not really hot
it might not harm, u cant really trust the temp reading by software since some of them might buggy

the best is using digital multimeter
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are you living in shah alam area? i want u to make a major operation with my lappy. err.. how much that cost? using artic silver? great! rclxms.gif

How long does asus gives warranty to their notebooks? 2 years international warranty
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Yes, i am living in shah alam area. smile.gif
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However, i don't advice you to ask me to open your notebook as your notebook still has 2 year of warranty.

Yes, for notebooks i only use Arctic Silver 5 as all notebooks only uses small heatsink, thus, it need a powerful thermal conductor between the heatsink and the processor's die @ core. smile.gif

I only use "chapalang" thermal paste on desktop pc's. laugh.gif

If it's only 1 year, i could do that.
But still, if you insist, i gladly accept it. smile.gif

aiks. please do this via pm smile.gif



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Just want to do short research of the chip set temperature for Gigabyte 965 Series mobo ... State the mobo, cooler, idle and load temperature.

Mine:
Gigabyte DS3, Thermalright HR-05, Idle: 48c, Load: 52c

i feel like it's a bit hot but not sure whether it is true or not ... so need feedback from various forumer here....

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Doom, youre idle temperature is very high dude. sweat.gif

This is mine under priming for nearly 19hours:
[In normal room, non airconditioned]

Your HR-05 should have work better than my stupid dq6 that is full with those ugly heatpipe. sweat.gif

Picture:
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e6600 @ 3.2GHz @ Stock Vcore 1.312
400 X 8 = 1600MHz Bus Speed
VMCH & FSB Voltage @ +0.5 volts
Vdimm @ 2.15Volts

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QUOTE(Doom @ Mar 11 2007, 12:49 PM)
Just want to do short research of the chip set temperature for Gigabyte 965 Series mobo ... State the mobo, cooler, idle and load temperature.

Mine:
Gigabyte DS3, Thermalright HR-05, Idle: 48c, Load: 52c

i feel like it's a bit hot but not sure whether it is true or not ... so need feedback from various forumer here....
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mine also DS3. using a 40mm fan to blow on the NB.
open 2 folding clients all the time.
E6400 @ 3.2GHZ (400x8, 1.375vcore in bios, +0.2 for both vmch and fsb, +0.3 for vdimm)
idle: 43c, Load: 44c. non air con.

izzit chipset temp = motherboard temp? wonder why temp same for idle and load for the motherboard temp.

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mine is around 45 maxed out with my stock hsf. not that bad compared to u guys eh?smile.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 11 2007, 02:20 PM)
Doom, youre idle temperature is very high dude. sweat.gif

This is mine under priming for nearly 19hours:
[In normal room, non airconditioned]

Your HR-05 should have work better than my stupid dq6 that is full with those ugly heatpipe. sweat.gif

Picture:
user posted image

e6600 @ 3.2GHz @ Stock Vcore 1.312
400 X 8 = 1600MHz Bus Speed
VMCH & FSB Voltage @ +0.5 volts
Vdimm @ 2.15Volts
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hmm i have the same thought when using HR-05, it should be lower ... but some how it turn out other wise .... one of the reason is the 8800GTS that increases the temperature of the case, CPU and chip set by 4 degrees which i spotted before and after getting the GC

anyway the temperature that u showed is with the G7 case and the 8800GTS inside the case ?

QUOTE(basSist @ Mar 11 2007, 05:50 PM)
mine also DS3. using a 40mm fan to blow on the NB.
open 2 folding clients all the time.
E6400 @ 3.2GHZ (400x8, 1.375vcore in bios, +0.2 for both vmch and fsb, +0.3 for vdimm)
idle: 43c, Load: 44c. non air con.

izzit chipset temp = motherboard temp? wonder why temp same for idle and load for the motherboard temp.

user posted image
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hmm seem like not much of different between idle and load for ur chipset

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mine is around 45 maxed out with my stock hsf. not that bad compared to u guys eh?smile.gif
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hmm .. i am getting Asus P5B-E Plus soon ... what do u think about the mobo ...??
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QUOTE(Doom @ Mar 12 2007, 05:23 PM)
hmm i have the same thought when using HR-05, it should be lower ... but some how it turn out other wise .... one of the reason is the 8800GTS that increases the temperature of the case, CPU and chip set by 4 degrees which i spotted before and after getting the GC
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Bro, that temps is while i'm using GTX liao.
And when i'm using the GTS is also the same.

And yes, the system is in the G7 casing. smile.gif
There might be something wrong with your setup, or maybe the airflow is not properly flown, or maybe you didn't fit your HR-05 on the 965 chipset well. sweat.gif
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i have mounted the HR-05 for few times with AS5 but the temperature just never different so i took the risk to touch the heat sink with bear hand and it is really hot ...

further more the the top side of the card really release quiet amount of heat ... anyway what do u think my case configuration can be done ..

i was having 4 exhausts for the top, side, rear and PSU ..one for intake from bottom...

i also tried ... 3 exhaust for top, rear and PSU .. two intake through side and front bu the temperature rises 3 degrees for all ...

i also tried 2 exhaust from rear and PSU .. two intake from top and front ..
however it causes the rise of CPU while no different for chip set..

that's why thought of getting PC-G7 for testing if possible ...



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err...I think last time in the Chipset Cooler thread there someone tell me mobo temp and chipset temp is different wor... if mobo got no chipset temp sensor then no chipset temp wor... sweat.gif

ok...now what...mobo temp and chipset temp is the same? ... rclxub.gif
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what i mean is the North bridge chip set temperature ... hope it clear ur doubt ...
about the mobo temperature i am not sure of it either .. .

what about the temperature shown in the bios "SYSTEM" ///



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QUOTE(Doom @ Mar 13 2007, 01:14 AM)
what i mean is the North bridge chip set temperature ... hope it clear ur doubt ...
about the mobo temperature i am not sure of it either .. .

what about the temperature shown in the bios "SYSTEM" ///
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does any of the software show it as NB temp for your case? or it just show motherboard temp? In the BIOS, I can only see Motherboard Temp and Processor Temp... sweat.gif
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IINM, the motherboard temp is the chipset temp.

Remember when i'm still on my ASUS P5WD2-E Premium board?
I used to get 48degrees on the stock northbridge heatsink [Motherboard Temp in PC Wizard 2007]
But when i switch the northbridge chipset heatsink to Noctua NC-U6, what i get is 36degrees. [Motherboard Temp in PC Wizard 2007]

Doesn't that shows that the motherboard temp is the northbridge temp? hmm.gif

It sure does look as the northbridge temps to me. smile.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 13 2007, 08:34 PM)
IINM, the motherboard temp is the chipset temp.

Remember when i'm still on my ASUS P5WD2-E Premium board?
I used to get 48degrees on the stock northbridge heatsink [Motherboard Temp in PC Wizard 2007]
But when i switch the northbridge chipset heatsink to Noctua NC-U6, what i get is 36degrees. [Motherboard Temp in PC Wizard 2007]

Doesn't that shows that the motherboard temp is the northbridge temp? hmm.gif

It sure does look as the northbridge temps to me. smile.gif
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it does clear my early question i asked few days ago smile.gif
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it does clear my early question i asked few days ago smile.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 13 2007, 08:34 PM)
IINM, the motherboard temp is the chipset temp.

Remember when i'm still on my ASUS P5WD2-E Premium board?
I used to get 48degrees on the stock northbridge heatsink [Motherboard Temp in PC Wizard 2007]
But when i switch the northbridge chipset heatsink to Noctua NC-U6, what i get is 36degrees. [Motherboard Temp in PC Wizard 2007]

Doesn't that shows that the motherboard temp is the northbridge temp? hmm.gif

It sure does look as the northbridge temps to me. smile.gif
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ic...like that I also can measure the chipset temp liao... rclxm9.gif

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How bout the temp for CPU?
When i refer to everest ultimade version, it list out temp for CPU, core 0, core 1, system...
I just know Core 0 and Core 1 only, how bout the CPU, System?
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Mar 16 2007, 01:36 PM)
How bout the temp for CPU?
When i refer to everest ultimade version, it list out temp for CPU, core 0, core 1, system...
I just know Core 0 and Core 1 only, how bout the CPU, System?
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because u are on a dual-core system, the temperature readings come from 2 cores, i.e. core 0 and core 1:)
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Mar 16 2007, 11:51 AM)
what as ur question? cant seem to find it  blush.gif
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nehh read below laugh.gif

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QUOTE(basSist @ Mar 11 2007, 05:50 PM)

mine also DS3. using a 40mm fan to blow on the NB.
open 2 folding clients all the time.
E6400 @ 3.2GHZ (400x8, 1.375vcore in bios, +0.2 for both vmch and fsb, +0.3 for vdimm)
idle: 43c, Load: 44c. non air con.

izzit chipset temp = motherboard temp? wonder why temp same for idle and load for the motherboard temp.
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Mar 16 2007, 01:36 PM)
How bout the temp for CPU?
When i refer to everest ultimade version, it list out temp for CPU, core 0, core 1, system...
I just know Core 0 and Core 1 only, how bout the CPU, System?
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CPU is the cpu temp measured by the Mobo's sensor. core 0 and core 1 is the cpu (core) temp measured by the cpu's internal die chipset. so core temp is higher than cpu temp.
system should be the mobo's chipset temp. so called Northbridge.

correct me if i was wrong pls blush.gif

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seems like my temperature is really a bit high ...

need to fix it when i got back and grab a new mobo ...

still in the middle of no way now .....
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wta, im running at 43-46 idle on a e6600 @ 3150Mhz, vcore 1.3875v, tuniq tower fan at full speed, think those temps are slightly on the hot side right?
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i think it is fine with such temperature since u OC so much ...


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wta, im running at 43-46 idle on a e6600 @ 3150Mhz, vcore  1.3875v, tuniq tower fan at full speed, think those temps are slightly on the hot side right?
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Wehh, u're running e6600 @ 3150MHz at 1.3875volts? blink.gif
Why need to pump the vcore to that extend? sweat.gif

My e6600 is running at 3.2GHz at the stock vcore [1.3125volts] only.
No need to increase the vcore liao...

Mine:
400X8 [3.2GHz] @ 1600MHz bus speed.

Check this:
user posted image

I even did primed my e6600 at that clock speed at the stock vcore for 19hours with no problem at all.

So why did you pump the vcore into that high? shocking.gif

I believe if you set your setting the same as mine, you will have a much much lower temps than what you're having right now. thumbup.gif

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bros, im running p4 511 on biostar tforce 965pt. my idle cpu temp is mostly 25c and mobo is 30c. is this normal? blink.gif
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bros, im running p4 511 on biostar tforce 965pt.  my idle cpu temp is mostly 25c and mobo is 30c. is this normal?  blink.gif
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Which type of heatsink u're using?
Stock or 3rd party heatsink? blink.gif
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bros, im running p4 511 on biostar tforce 965pt.  my idle cpu temp is mostly 25c and mobo is 30c. is this normal?  blink.gif
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if its stock, then its not too bad. but i dont remember P4's being so cool.
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Mar 16 2007, 09:14 PM)
if its stock, then its not too bad. but i dont remember P4's being so cool.
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Agreed.
It's using Prescott cores aka preshott laugh.gif

Prescott are the hottest core ever produced by Intel. tongue.gif

If you're using stock heatsink and getting that kind of temps, i believe your motherboard sensor chip got bugs in it. laugh.gif

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Wehh, u're running e6600 @ 3150MHz at 1.3875volts? blink.gif
Why need to pump the vcore to that extend? sweat.gif

My e6600 is running at 3.2GHz at the stock vcore [1.3125volts] only.
No need to increase the vcore liao...

Mine:
400X8 [3.2GHz] @ 1600MHz bus speed.

Check this:
[image]

I even did primed my e6600 at that clock speed at the stock vcore for 19hours with no problem at all.

So why did you pump the vcore into that high? shocking.gif

I believe if you set your setting the same as mine, you will have a much much lower temps than what you're having right now. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 16 2007, 06:28 PM)
Wehh, u're running e6600 @ 3150MHz at 1.3875volts? blink.gif
Why need to pump the vcore to that extend? sweat.gif

My e6600 is running at 3.2GHz at the stock vcore [1.3125volts] only.
No need to increase the vcore liao...

Mine:
400X8 [3.2GHz] @ 1600MHz bus speed.

Check this:

I even did primed my e6600 at that clock speed at the stock vcore for 19hours with no problem at all.

So why did you pump the vcore into that high? shocking.gif

I believe if you set your setting the same as mine, you will have a much much lower temps than what you're having right now. thumbup.gif
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oc noobie, thats why, anyway mine retail version, not ES gem like gangstapo mention lol...actually i didnt try set it on auto...just bantai straight 1.3875 vcore, then slowly increase until i get 350fsb stable...@355 same vcore failed OCCT after 3 mins, also failed orthos altho cant remember after how long but def less than 30 minutes rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Mar 16 2007, 10:21 PM)
oc noobie, thats why, anyway mine retail version, not ES gem like gangstapo mention lol...actually i didnt try set it on auto...just bantai straight 1.3875 vcore, then slowly increase until i get 350fsb stable...@355 same vcore failed OCCT after 3 mins, also failed orthos altho cant remember after how long but def less than 30 minutes  rclxub.gif
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Ok, try my method first la bro. smile.gif

It's worth a shot. thumbup.gif

Make it as 400X8 @ Stock Vcore, dont adjust anything on the Vcore. smile.gif

FSB set at 400MHz
Multiplier set at 8 [Yes, decrease it smile.gif ]

My e6600 ES is also quite hard in overclocking when i set the multiplier to 9 sweat.gif

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ok thx..b4 i do that...just passed OCCT 30 minutes with vcore set at auto...puzzling thing is temp shot upto 47c at idle and 62c load...im sure thats hot @ fsb 350 x9
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 16 2007, 11:04 PM)
Ok, try my method first la bro. smile.gif

It's worth a shot. thumbup.gif

Make it as 400X8 @ Stock Vcore, dont adjust anything on the Vcore. smile.gif

FSB set at 400MHz
Multiplier set at 8 [Yes, decrease it smile.gif ]

My e6600 ES is also quite hard in overclocking when i set the multiplier to 9 sweat.gif
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Wow, shawnty upgrade to c2d already?  brows.gif what happened to your 930d?
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Sold long time d. laugh.gif

Hey, we're going far out of the topic d. sweat.gif
Let's stick back to the topic title shall we? smile.gif

And bro cablesguy, let's continue our discussion on overclocking your C2D in here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/399602

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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Mar 16 2007, 09:14 PM)
if its stock, then its not too bad. but i dont remember P4's being so cool.
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Agreed.
It's using Prescott cores aka preshott laugh.gif

Prescott are the hottest core ever produced by Intel. tongue.gif

If you're using stock heatsink and getting that kind of temps, i believe your motherboard sensor chip got bugs in it. laugh.gif
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im using btvx. do u think this hsf can result this?
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Shouldn't be. shakehead.gif

Unless if you're using in a freaking cool air conditioned room with a 2HP air conditioner. laugh.gif

But if you're using in a normal room without any air conditioner, that means your motherboard sensor chip should have bugs in it. laugh.gif
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i'm newbie here, just started to monitor my hardware temps.
here's my pc details

casing: CoolerMaster Centurion 5 with stock fans
hsf: amd stock fan
cpu: amd x2 3600+
mobo: asus m2npv-mx
hdd: WD250, WD80, WD40(no sensor)

used to placed my WD40 & WD80 & WD250 at hdd rack, and the temp goes up to 50c
now i replaced my WD250 at cd rack, its temp lower abit to 40-44c

current temps
mobo: 47c
CPU: 41c
WD250: 44c
WD80: 40c


are those temp normal?
or any recommendation casing fans to replace the current stock fans?
and how to tell when's idle temp? idle temp = temp after boot up?

thanks
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QUOTE(giasens @ Mar 18 2007, 02:42 AM)
i'm newbie here, just started to monitor my hardware temps.
here's my pc details

casing: CoolerMaster Centurion 5 with stock fans
hsf: amd stock fan
cpu: amd x2 3600+
mobo: asus m2npv-mx
hdd: WD250, WD80, WD40(no sensor)

used to placed my WD40 & WD80 & WD250 at hdd rack, and the temp goes up to 50c
now i replaced my WD250 at cd rack, its temp lower abit to 40-44c

current temps
mobo: 47c
CPU: 41c
WD250: 44c
WD80: 40c
are those temp normal?
or any recommendation casing fans to replace the current stock fans?
and how to tell when's idle temp? idle temp = temp after boot up?

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You can take the idle temp after you boot up your PC and leave it there without open any program for about 30 minutes... icon_idea.gif

Your hdd temp is consider ok but my suggestion is try to keep it lower than 40C for idle (or even with little load (10-50%))... just my opinion lar...others may say different... icon_rolleyes.gif
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AMD Athlon Barton 2800++
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Temp Idle at 55 deg Celcius

Is this normal or is the cooler undersized

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QUOTE(Cereal @ Mar 18 2007, 01:54 PM)
AMD Athlon Barton 2800++
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Is this normal or is the cooler undersized
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Looks abnormal to me... Though, Barton is a 'hot' processor. It shouldnt be at 55'c idle. try to clean your stock cooler and reapply the TIM.
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QUOTE(Cereal @ Mar 18 2007, 01:54 PM)
AMD Athlon Barton 2800++
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Is this normal or is the cooler undersized
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this is way too hot even with the stock hsf.
probally needs some new thermal place, and clean the fan of the hsf.
dust is a pain.
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Mar 16 2007, 06:09 PM)
wta, im running at 43-46 idle on a e6600 @ 3150Mhz, vcore  1.3875v, tuniq tower fan at full speed, think those temps are slightly on the hot side right?
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whats mobo you using? Asus board particularly have annoying vdroop (Like mine) even u set 1.3875 the real vcore is just 1.3+ (my case, vdroop 0.7-0.8) doh.gif

so take that in mind smile.gif
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which ASUS mobo are u using ??

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which ASUS mobo are u using ??
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If u mean me , refer to my sig sweat.gif The vdroop doh.gif and I dont dare to do the vdroop mod pencil tongue.gif
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QUOTE(s[H]sIkuA @ Mar 18 2007, 08:57 PM)
whats mobo you using? Asus board particularly have annoying vdroop (Like mine) even u set 1.3875 the real vcore is just 1.3+ (my case, vdroop 0.7-0.8)  doh.gif

so take that in mind smile.gif
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using asus commando, dont know why but tune back to stock and all settings at auto now and coretemps reporting 40-42c idle, with tuniq tower and fan @ 1800rpm+-, is that normal? coz iinm previously using btvx i get idle around 38c at stock....was expecting more frm the tuniq
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Mar 18 2007, 11:22 AM)
yes ur temps are about normal however, did u replace the stock thermal paste on the hsf?
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Mar 18 2007, 01:24 PM)
You can take the idle temp after you boot up your PC and leave it there without open any program for about 30 minutes... icon_idea.gif

Your hdd temp is consider ok but my suggestion is try to keep it lower than 40C for idle (or even with little load (10-50%))... just my opinion lar...others may say different... icon_rolleyes.gif
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alrite. but how to keep lower than 40c?
change stock fan?
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it depend on the airflow of ur case .and how close are the two HDD's ...

if u would have a 12cm fan blowing 45cfm through the HDDs .. it should keep it below 40c...


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QUOTE(giasens @ Mar 20 2007, 12:41 AM)
nope, i didn't replace
alrite. but how to keep lower than 40c?
change stock fan?
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You mention in above that you change your WD250 to CDROM bay there, mean now you have only 2 hdd in the hdd bay there right? Then in front of your casing have an intake fan to blow toward your hdd bay right? Change the fan might help to lower the temp a bit...then for your WD250, you can either put another fan there or you can try to get hdd cooler. If you can have both will be even better... icon_rolleyes.gif
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just want to ask, if the temp is abnormal..any problem if left it there?

So on, my bro pc (pentium D 3.0ghz idle is 55.after wait 2 min, it rise to 62.I check in the bios setup there.The highest temp is 75 degree if left it there whole day.(The casing is open side, and no fan cooler inside) currently, he use already 1.5 yr..nothing problem so far..
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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ Mar 20 2007, 03:25 PM)
just want to ask, if the temp is abnormal..any problem if left it there?

So on, my bro pc (pentium D 3.0ghz idle is 55.after wait 2 min, it rise to 62.I check in the bios setup there.The highest temp is 75 degree if left it there whole day.(The casing is open side, and no fan cooler inside) currently, he use already 1.5 yr..nothing problem so far..
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You mean the processor running without HS or with HS but no fan on it? If got HS, what HS is that?

Pentium D is freaking hot processor, idle 55C is not so good, and you say it will go up to 62 just in 2 minutes, that will be very dangerous coz it might get even higher for the idle during freaking hot weather... sweat.gif with so high idle temp, I suspose the load temp will be near to 80C... sweat.gif doh.gif

If the processor have HS, better get a fan for it before the processor burn, if no HS, then you might want to get one fast...

Leave it there could be have problem and could have no problem, depend on your luck lor... who know it might suddently dead due to too hot... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Mar 20 2007, 03:40 PM)
You mean the processor running without HS or with HS but no fan on it? If got HS, what HS is that?

Pentium D is freaking hot processor, idle 55C is not so good, and you say it will go up to 62 just in 2 minutes, that will be very dangerous coz it might get even higher for the idle during freaking hot weather... sweat.gif  with so high idle temp, I suspose the load temp will be near to 80C... sweat.gif  doh.gif

If the processor have HS, better get a fan for it before the processor burn, if no HS, then you might want to get one fast...

Leave it there could be have problem and could have no problem, depend on your luck lor... who know it might suddently dead due to too hot... sweat.gif
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sure got HF la.If didnt go sure burn liaw..The HF is original..Actually, I hate Pentium D..coz it use a lot of electric than C2D. and the HF is really noisy...ya..normally loading is around 75 degree..and the HF is really noise...Like want to explode..When really, noisy, I turn off..Really "excited"..sure change HF la..just want save $..
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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ Mar 20 2007, 03:52 PM)
sure got HF la.If didnt go sure burn liaw..The HF is original..Actually, I hate Pentium D..coz it use a lot of electric than C2D. and the HF is really noisy...ya..normally loading is around 75 degree..and the HF is really noise...Like want to explode..When really, noisy, I turn off..Really "excited"..sure change HF la..just want save $..
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Ya, Pentium D is the worst processor ever build by Intel and Intel stock cooler is kinda useless shakehead.gif ... my Pentium D 820 is only 44-47C only for idle, load only 66-67C...using the Noctua NH-U12F... thumbup.gif

yeah, save some $$ and get yourself an after market cooler to cool down that freaking hot processor... brows.gif
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My P4C Northwood 3GHz @ 3.41GHz

Idle 45-48C (depend on ambient temp)
Full Load as high as 75C (normally 72-73C)
Vcore: 1.525V

HSF : CM Xdream III Base Copper+Aluminium Fins (lapped some more)
Is it normal? I find it too hot for a northwood with that temp


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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ Mar 20 2007, 03:52 PM)
sure got HF la.If didnt go sure burn liaw..The HF is original..Actually, I hate Pentium D..coz it use a lot of electric than C2D. and the HF is really noisy...ya..normally loading is around 75 degree..and the HF is really noise...Like want to explode..When really, noisy, I turn off..Really "excited"..sure change HF la..just want save $..
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Like said by Kataro, Pentium D is one of the hottest processor ever released by Intel. So franky speaking, the stock cooler is not good even when you using at default speed. Spend some money on third party cpu cooler if you want to prolong your processor life. Heat = Reduce the life of hardware smile.gif

QUOTE(eddyann @ Mar 21 2007, 03:32 PM)
My P4C Northwood 3GHz @ 3.41GHz

Idle 45-48C (depend on ambient temp)
Full Load as high as 75C (normally 72-73C)
Vcore: 1.525V

HSF : CM Xdream III Base Copper+Aluminium Fins (lapped some more)
Is it normal? I find it too hot for a northwood with that temp
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Your temp is totally not normal. My previous rig, 3.4C (30 caps) OC till 3.82Ghz only running at idle 34'c, full load 42'C. I am using Scythe Andy Samurai Master during that time.

IMO, CM Xdream III is a low end cpu cooler. Not good if you plan to OC your rig. Get something better.



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Thanks for your support. Hehehe...

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QUOTE(irangan @ Mar 21 2007, 04:45 PM)
Like said by Kataro, Pentium D is one of the hottest processor ever released by Intel. So franky speaking, the stock cooler is not good even when you using at default speed. Spend some money on third party cpu cooler if you want to prolong your processor life. Heat = Reduce the life of hardware smile.gif
Your temp is totally not normal. My previous rig, 3.4C (30 caps) OC till 3.82Ghz only running at idle 34'c, full load 42'C. I am using Scythe Andy Samurai Master during that time.

IMO, CM Xdream III is a low end cpu cooler. Not good if you plan to OC your rig. Get something better.
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Thanks for your support. Hehehe...
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You are always welcome...Hopefully you will bring in the Noctua fan next time coz seem got many people wanna get it... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Dear experts,

Need some cunsultation regarding fan speed...as my CPU fan is driving me crazy...

Since buying my new set PC and had a friend installed it for me, ive been tortured by the super ultra noisy fan in my CPU. For the first few mintues that i run my system, the sound will be very nice and slow but after 5-10 minutes the fan starts to get into action and CPU temp by speedfan averages at 60 celcius.

When i run games and my Flight Simulator the temp rise to average 73-74 degrees and the fan noise is as loud as my flight sim aircraft engine sound....

Here are my specs and some screenies....I'm not an expert with system and willing to spend some $$$ to get rid of this annoying noise and if possible put my cpu back where it should be (see attached pic below)

Specs:
CPU: P4 LGA775 3.00Ghz 1MB L2Cache, 800Mhz FSB
MOBO: MSI Intel 865PE Neo3 Chipset Board
RAM: 512 Gig (plan to upgrade soon)
GPU: Asus GeForce FX 5500
HD: Maxtor 160GB

My SpeedFan Results
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My PC Hideout
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My Flight Sim that runs the temp all the way to 77 degrees
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HELP!

Thanks


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QUOTE(azuan_az @ Mar 23 2007, 05:25 PM)
Dear experts,

Need some cunsultation regarding fan speed...as my CPU fan is driving me crazy...

Since buying my new set PC and had a friend installed it for me, ive been tortured by the super ultra noisy fan in my CPU. For the first few mintues that i run my system, the sound will be very nice and slow but after 5-10 minutes the fan starts to get into action and CPU temp by speedfan averages at 60 celcius.

When i run games and my Flight Simulator the temp rise to average 73-74 degrees and the fan noise is as loud as my flight sim aircraft engine sound....

Here are my specs and some screenies....I'm not an expert with system and willing to spend some $$$ to get rid of this annoying noise and if possible put my cpu back where it should be (see attached pic below)

Specs:
CPU: P4 LGA775 3.00Ghz 1MB L2Cache, 800Mhz FSB
MOBO: MSI Intel 865PE Neo3 Chipset Board
RAM: 512 Gig (plan to upgrade soon)
GPU: Asus GeForce FX 5500
HD: Maxtor 160GB

HELP!

Thanks
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The answer is simple.
It's because from the picture u put there, it seems like u're using stock intel heatsink, that's why it's super noisy + super hot. laugh.gif

Want your processor to be cool + silent? brows.gif

Buy a 3rd party heatsink for your processor and fix it with a super silent fan. thumbup.gif

Get Thermalright Ultra 120.
The best 3rd Party CPU Cooler thumbup.gif

I can see someone selling in the CPU & Motherboards, Casings & PSU Section in the garage sales thread. thumbup.gif

Go Go Go! laugh.gif

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Thank you Sir, will start surfing and buying soon smile.gif

is it simple enough to change the heatsink or i need an IT shop to do it? i'm just a newbie...



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Err a little bit confuse here .. Core at SpeedFan shows my cpu temperature right? In BIOS, cpu temperature shows 55C, SpeedFan 63-65C sweat.gif
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QUOTE(azuan_az @ Mar 23 2007, 08:08 PM)
Thank you Sir, will start surfing and buying soon smile.gif

is it simple enough to change the heatsink or i need an IT shop to do it? i'm just a newbie...
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It is very easy to install. Just read through the installation manual and be extra careful. smile.gif


QUOTE(afosz @ Mar 23 2007, 08:21 PM)
Err a little bit confuse here .. Core at SpeedFan shows my cpu temperature right? In BIOS, cpu temperature shows 55C, SpeedFan 63-65C sweat.gif
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The temp in your bios is lower because there is NO processing at all ma.. when you in windows and with those processing at background, of course the temp will be higher.
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QUOTE(irangan @ Mar 23 2007, 09:29 PM)
It is very easy to install. Just read through the installation manual and be extra careful. smile.gif
The temp in your bios is lower because there is NO processing at all ma.. when you in windows and with those processing at background, of course the temp will be higher.
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I see .. why didn't I think about it doh.gif

Anyway at 65C, is it consider high already? Do I need to get a cooler? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Mar 24 2007, 07:40 AM)
I see .. why didn't I think about it doh.gif

Anyway at 65C, is it consider high already? Do I need to get a cooler? shocking.gif
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Is your pc specs like what in your signature?

If it's true, i think it's kinda high for an AMD64 3000+ laugh.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Mar 24 2007, 07:40 AM)
I see .. why didn't I think about it doh.gif

Anyway at 65C, is it consider high already? Do I need to get a cooler? shocking.gif
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Ya, that is too hot... sweat.gif even my freaking hot Pentium D 820 is cooler than yours, only 44-47C idle with the help of Noctua NH-U12F... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Mar 24 2007, 07:40 AM)
I see .. why didn't I think about it doh.gif

Anyway at 65C, is it consider high already? Do I need to get a cooler? shocking.gif
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Yes... You seriously in need of a new cooler. But if you tight in budget, why not try to cleand and remount your heatsink? Sometime high temp is due to bad mounting.
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ahaks .. I thought so sweat.gif never unmount since 1st mount laugh.gif dem it is freakin hot .. just checked with my bro's pc 3500+, 39C cry.gif thinking of getting Scythe Ninja, does it reduces a lot?

ADDED: already clean it up, reduce to stock performance and still the same cry.gif what happen? maybe running Vista cause it? my 2 bro also using Vista but they're at 1.5GB RAM. I even open up my side panel, reduced to 55C only

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QUOTE(afosz @ Mar 24 2007, 12:14 PM)
ahaks .. I thought so sweat.gif never unmount since 1st mount laugh.gif dem it is freakin hot .. just checked with my bro's pc 3500+, 39C cry.gif thinking of getting Scythe Ninja, does it reduces a lot?
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Probably the TIM dirty already. Just clean it up and replace with new TIM. Can lower the temp by several 'C.

Scythe Ninja ar, it is considered one of those high end air heatsink but I heard that there is some air flow problem with it. Thus, cant perform that well. There is a thread in the forum about this. Look for it.
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Seeking for helps,
I think my E6600 + TTBT temp is a bit high. Alrdy mount the HSF correctly and apply with AS5. But still the temp remains high. No idea wht happenng and how to lower the temp. Need some advice here.
Thanks.

2.4GHz: 1.325v
idle temp
- 38C (BIOS)
- 53C (TAT)

3.2GHz: 1.375v
idle temp
- 41C (BIOS)
- 56C (TAT)

3.6GHz: 1.5v+
idle temp
- 45C (BIOS)
- 60C (TAT)

~ i assume tht the TAT reading is BIOS reading +15C ~

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temps seem to be quite low.
60degrees with and aircond room?
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No aircond my room.. irangan told me his setup with Noctua runs cooler. TTBT result should be same like Noctua i think.

irangan proc:
My E6600 @2.4ghz running at

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AirCond
Idle 28'C
Full Load 38'C

Without AirCond
Idle 32-33'C
Ful Load 41-43'C


If compare with him, my temp is not good at all. Im quite worry.
I think it might becoz of my HSF prob?? Really donno how come the temp can be so high. Can help me pls.
Thanks MOD.

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Erm guys, am totally a n00b at cooling.

i want to start improving the cooling within my system unit.

my questions are the following :

1) What are the equipment that i will need to clean my system unit and install new fans? (canned air? mounts for fans? what size fans? etc)
2) Where can i get these equipment?

A list of equipments that i would need will be very helpful, guys! Thanks in advanced!
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Mar 20 2007, 04:20 PM)
Ya, Pentium D is the worst processor ever build by Intel and Intel stock cooler is kinda useless shakehead.gif ... my Pentium D 820 is only 44-47C only for idle, load only 66-67C...using the Noctua NH-U12F... thumbup.gif

yeah, save some $$ and get yourself an after market cooler to cool down that freaking hot processor... brows.gif
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If u said like this,

Change ur PenD HSF with a pan then U can use it to frying some egg, or warming ur drink also can use for cooking some meggi. This kind of method can benefits the wasted heat produce by the CPU especially HOT presscot and pD. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(spikeee @ Mar 27 2007, 10:40 AM)
Erm guys, am totally a n00b at cooling.

i want to start improving the cooling within my system unit.

my questions are the following :

1) What are the equipment that i will need to clean my system unit and install new fans? (canned air? mounts for fans? what size fans? etc)
2) Where can i get these equipment?

A list of equipments that i would need will be very helpful, guys! Thanks in advanced!
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1) whatever u can use to clean the dust inside the casing, like brush. When come to the fans, it depends on the casing u using rite now, whether it can put a 80mm fan or 120mm fan.

2) most of the computer shops got sell those things....
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QUOTE(HanevE @ Mar 27 2007, 11:12 AM)
If u said like this,

Change ur PenD HSF with a pan then U can use it to frying some egg, or warming ur drink also can use for cooking some meggi. This kind of method can benefits the wasted heat produce by the CPU especially HOT presscot and pD. rclxms.gif
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Very funny... yawn.gif how the hell you going to put the pan to the processor there as it will sure be block by many items inside and it will be upside down unless I put my PC lying down... and how I wash the pan after cook meggi, fry egg and warm drink...take it out all the time after cook...waste of my time... shakehead.gif better just get an after market cooler to do the job... icon_rolleyes.gif
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my old 3.2E soc 478:

idle : 49-52'c
load : 60'c rclxub.gif

my freezer4 is like dying.before full speed will be 2100rpm, now only 1800-1900rpm.. sweat.gif lazy to RMA, maybe change to better HSF..adding additional fans on top of the jfs will drop the temp around 4-5'c.maybe will just cut of the ori fan and replace with high cfm fan... smile.gif any advice??
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Alright thanks dude. was thinking of where to buy canned air, actually tongue.gif hehe
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Mar 26 2007, 10:51 AM)
Seeking for helps,
I think my E6600 + TTBT temp is a bit high. Alrdy mount the HSF correctly and apply with AS5. But still the temp remains high. No idea wht happenng and how to lower the temp. Need some advice here.
Thanks.

2.4GHz: 1.325v
idle temp
- 38C (BIOS)
- 53C (TAT)

3.2GHz: 1.375v
idle temp
- 41C (BIOS)
- 56C (TAT)

3.6GHz: 1.5v+
idle temp
- 45C (BIOS)
- 60C (TAT)

~ i assume tht the TAT reading is BIOS reading +15C ~
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Anyone help me out pls.
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Mar 27 2007, 08:45 PM)
Anyone help me out pls.
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reseat ur hsf. use a temp probe and see
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reseat ur hsf. use a temp probe and see
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Agreed, that's the only way to check it out. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Mar 27 2007, 01:33 PM)
my old 3.2E soc 478:

idle  : 49-52'c
load : 60'c  rclxub.gif

my freezer4 is like dying.before full speed will be 2100rpm, now only 1800-1900rpm.. sweat.gif lazy to RMA, maybe change to better HSF..adding additional fans on top of the jfs will drop the temp around 4-5'c.maybe will just cut of the ori fan and replace with high cfm fan... smile.gif any advice??
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Get yourself a Thermalright Ultra 90 or Ultra 120 but need to purchase the mounting seperately. OR you can get a Noctua U12F. All these can cool down your system easily.


QUOTE(yehlai @ Mar 27 2007, 08:45 PM)
Anyone help me out pls.
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Do some testing first. Probably it is because your heatsink dont have a good contact with your processor. Mount it and remove it right away. Then you can check on the pressure on the mounting.

If the problem lies with your pressure, I think you need to find alternative ways to give more pressure. e.g. Use DangerDen WC mounting to add pressure on those Ultra 120 and so on.

Or probably your casing dont have a good ventilation.
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Mar 27 2007, 01:33 PM)
my old 3.2E soc 478:

idle  : 49-52'c
load : 60'c  rclxub.gif

my freezer4 is like dying.before full speed will be 2100rpm, now only 1800-1900rpm.. sweat.gif lazy to RMA, maybe change to better HSF..adding additional fans on top of the jfs will drop the temp around 4-5'c.maybe will just cut of the ori fan and replace with high cfm fan... smile.gif any advice??
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actually u know ur temps are extremely high.
i think u need to reapply some thermal paste, and yes replace the fan and see.
else, u have to upgrade or ure gonna kill that poor processor over there
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Bro... i don't know if that is consider high...but for my chip...it never went lower than 55'C as well using TAT... but my chip is a quad core lar...so i expect it to be higher temp....

my temp at 2.66Ghz is around 53-55'C
3.0ghz is around 57-59'C while
3.2Ghz is around 61-62'C

so if compare with your readings...looks bout correct....

QUOTE(yehlai @ Mar 27 2007, 08:45 PM)
I think my E6600 + TTBT temp is a bit high. Alrdy mount the HSF correctly and apply with AS5. But still the temp remains high. No idea wht happenng and how to lower the temp. Need some advice here.
Thanks.

2.4GHz: 1.325v
idle temp
- 38C (BIOS)
- 53C (TAT)

3.2GHz: 1.375v
idle temp
- 41C (BIOS)
- 56C (TAT)

3.6GHz: 1.5v+
idle temp
- 45C (BIOS)
- 60C (TAT)

~ i assume tht the TAT reading is BIOS reading +15C ~
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P4E temperature range from 50 to 60 is pretty normal ...

unless WC else it is hard to get lower with air cooling ..

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Mar 29 2007, 10:50 PM)
Bro... i don't know if that is consider high...but for my chip...it never went lower than 55'C as well using TAT... but my chip is a quad core lar...so i expect it to be higher temp....

my temp at 2.66Ghz is around 53-55'C
3.0ghz is around 57-59'C while
3.2Ghz is around 61-62'C

so if compare with your readings...looks bout correct....
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What cpu cooler you are using?

If you are using stock cooler, then the temp is perfectly normal else you might need to check your cooler mounting already.

QUOTE(Doom @ Mar 30 2007, 12:49 AM)
P4E temperature range from 50 to 60 is pretty normal ...

unless WC else it is hard to get lower with air cooling ..
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But he is using a third party cooler. so his temp shouldnt be that high even he is using prescott

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problem with my e6300.. look here when idle :

it happen after i put 80" fan in front to cool my hd... so i had 80" both back and front, and 80" top but no fan.....
before i put fan infront my cpu speed is only less than 900 rpm and temperature is only around 40... help me cry.gif .. but my HD temp is drop tongue.gif


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QUOTE(yuka @ Mar 30 2007, 09:47 PM)
problem with my e6300.. look here when idle :

it happen after i put 80" fan in front to cool my hd... so i had 80" both back and front, and 80" top but no fan.....
before i put fan infront my cpu speed is only less than 900 rpm and temperature is only around 40... help me  cry.gif .. but my HD temp is drop  tongue.gif
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u oc it??
i think it is normal if u oc it a bit.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(chokchunynh @ Mar 30 2007, 11:07 PM)
u oc it??
i think it is normal if u oc it a bit.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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no la laugh.gif ... this intel mobo can oc too ka? cry.gif
anyway, how to fix my prob ar?
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QUOTE(yuka @ Mar 30 2007, 09:47 PM)
problem with my e6300.. look here when idle :

it happen after i put 80" fan in front to cool my hd... so i had 80" both back and front, and 80" top but no fan.....
before i put fan infront my cpu speed is only less than 900 rpm and temperature is only around 40... help me  cry.gif .. but my HD temp is drop  tongue.gif
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I have the same problem...
When I bought the my C2De6300, it came with casing without back exhaust. and my CPU was cooking at around 55C. now I put fans behind, it only drop to 51C (idle temp. , non aircon).

I really thought that C2D supposed to run cool around 40C++ during idle. Even my home AMDX2 3800 runs at 38C with stock fan.

I tried remounting, put Artic Silver5, put fans...still not much improvement. SO, anybody facing the same problem with Intel Stock fan?? I dun wish to change to 3rd party heatsink as I'm not doing overclocking.

I did some research on the forums from overseas, those ppl even complain when their temperature is around 40C. I know I cant compare their readings and ours due to our hot weather.
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QUOTE(yuka @ Mar 30 2007, 09:47 PM)
problem with my e6300.. look here when idle :

it happen after i put 80" fan in front to cool my hd... so i had 80" both back and front, and 80" top but no fan.....
before i put fan infront my cpu speed is only less than 900 rpm and temperature is only around 40... help me  cry.gif .. but my HD temp is drop  tongue.gif
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What is the cfm of your front intake and rear exhaust? to have better cooling, should make exhaust have bigger cfm than intake so that hot air can be exhaust from your casing... correct me if I am wrong... icon_rolleyes.gif
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LOL my bad of reading SpeedFan doh.gif since I don't have any sensor, I thought the Core is CPU temperature, but then when I compare with Everest, that temperature shows my GPU. No wonder the temperature damn high, at 60C laugh.gif what a relief

added: motherboard at 50-55C, is it safe?

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added: motherboard at 50-55C, is it safe?
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No.

That's pretty high IMO.
U should replace the northbridge heatsink and you'll got a lower temp for your motherboard temps.

Normally motherboard temps is identified as northbridge temps. smile.gif
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this is my new temperature results after moving my rig into new PC-G7 ..

plus a new mobo...

CPU-
Idle: 49
Load: 54

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Idle: 46
Load: 52

Is this good enough with the Ultra-120 that i am using... ?
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@ Doom,

What's the temp for the GTS while the GTS is in PC-A10 & after you move to PC-G7? brows.gif

And mine to state the temps for the processor, NB, and your GTS while you're using PC-A10 and after swapping it into PC-G7? blink.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 31 2007, 07:14 PM)
@ Doom,

What's the temp for the GTS while the GTS is in PC-A10 & after you move to PC-G7? brows.gif

And mine to state the temps for the processor, NB, and your GTS while you're using PC-A10 and after swapping it into PC-G7? blink.gif
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imo, should be lower. the PCA-10 doesnt have a very good front intake. thus this causes my temps to go sky high

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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Mar 31 2007, 09:56 PM)
imo, should be lower. the PCA-10 doesnt have a very good front intake. thus this causes my temps to go sky high
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But then, uncle sniper on the roof doesn't agree with that when i state about that in the LL thread. laugh.gif

Well, two users of LL PC-A10 proves that the PC-A10 suffers from fresh intake for the GFX, it's up to others to believe it.

And this is why i switch my dream casing from PC-A10 to V1200B Plus II! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 31 2007, 07:14 PM)
@ Doom,

What's the temp for the GTS while the GTS is in PC-A10 & after you move to PC-G7? brows.gif

And mine to state the temps for the processor, NB, and your GTS while you're using PC-A10 and after swapping it into PC-G7? blink.gif
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There's only 2 degrees of different .... when it's not running in air cond room..

the margin is slightly more when it's in air cond room ..which would be around 4c compare to using A10..
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My SpeedFan and Everest Home Edition shows CPU temp around 10C, is it possible because I find it too low. I didn't use any WC or CPU cooler, just stock HSF
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QUOTE(afosz @ Apr 3 2007, 08:43 AM)
My SpeedFan and Everest Home Edition shows CPU temp around 10C, is it possible because I find it too low. I didn't use any WC or CPU cooler, just stock HSF
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wow!!nice temp...i should i say what an insane temp! joking2..... biggrin.gif
something wrong with ur software/hardware maybe??
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I don't what went wrong. The temp is great, but too great since I didn't do anything about it. I don't know whether it is the true reading or not sweat.gif

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wow man, ur fan freaking fast....
675000RPM???
what brand is it? wuhuuu ~ isnt core is for cpu? the one 52C...
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That's why I seek for consultation here. Same thing I was wondering about other than the temp reading. Is it because of the software? Or the hardware? sweat.gif

The core displays my graphic card. Try comparing with Everest
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QUOTE(afosz @ Apr 3 2007, 03:51 PM)
That's why I seek for consultation here. Same thing I was wondering about other than the temp reading. Is it because of the software? Or the hardware? sweat.gif

The core displays my graphic card. Try comparing with Everest
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might be your mobo temp probe problem... but I am not sure... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Apr 3 2007, 03:51 PM)
That's why I seek for consultation here. Same thing I was wondering about other than the temp reading. Is it because of the software? Or the hardware? sweat.gif

The core displays my graphic card. Try comparing with Everest
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its most probally a hardware prob. maybe u can get a temp probe and test it out
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QUOTE(afosz @ Apr 3 2007, 08:43 AM)
My SpeedFan and Everest Home Edition shows CPU temp around 10C, is it possible because I find it too low. I didn't use any WC or CPU cooler, just stock HSF
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i think sometimes SpeedFan show us an error reading.
last time it shows my cpu temp as 110C even im not OC at all.. sweat.gif

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anyway i got a problem here.
last night i managed to oc my x2 until 2.7ghz..

CPU Freq = 270 x 10 = 2700MHz
DDR = DDR900 4-4-4-12
Vcore = 1.675v (damn high)
Vdimm = 1.48v (ok for micron i think)
* no changes made for chipset and HTT's voltage.

and guess what, my proc's temperature already reached 70C.. sweat.gif
i took out the HyperTX, cleaned up the accumulated dust, applied much more AS5, then the temperature still high, but didnt reach 70C lor..(but it still high rite?) sweat.gif

so besides changing my cooling parts, what should i do?

and if i need to change, can suggest me the good cpu heatsink?
- budget = rm200 (max)
- copper is better
- can fit 12cm fan (if can ft 2x12cm front and rear oso good)
- if can, the fan is already bundled and its good to lowering my temp

hope can help me with these.
thanks smile.gif

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hmm RM 200 maybe u could grab Cooler Master Gemini that can fit dual 12cm fan ...

or thermalright cooler Utra-120, HR-01 and Nortua ...

the cheapest one will be HR-01 .. around RM150 added with a nice 12cm fan would cost u around RM180 ... i like that cooler as works well in tight case environment ...
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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Apr 3 2007, 08:55 PM)
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Not particularly right. smile.gif

The best would be a mix of copper + aluminium, like ultra 120, infinity, ninja, BTVX, and other high end heatsink. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Apr 8 2007, 07:35 AM)
Not particularly right. smile.gif

The best would be a mix of copper + aluminium, like ultra 120, infinity, ninja, BTVX, and other high end heatsink. thumbup.gif
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in actual fact. copper conducts heat better while aluminium extracts heat quicker.
i cant remember, but i remember seeing that in some german review site
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QUOTE(Doom @ Apr 7 2007, 04:27 PM)
hmm RM 200 maybe u could grab Cooler Master Gemini that can fit dual 12cm fan ...

or thermalright cooler Utra-120, HR-01 and Nortua ...

the cheapest one will be HR-01 .. around RM150 added with a nice 12cm fan would cost u around RM180 ... i like that cooler as works well in tight case environment ...
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dun wanna that geminII..my case will be really crowd with that thing sweat.gif
anyway ill consider thermalright hr01..but im lazy to find the am2 bracket..

QUOTE(sHawTY @ Apr 8 2007, 07:35 AM)
Not particularly right. smile.gif

The best would be a mix of copper + aluminium, like ultra 120, infinity, ninja, BTVX, and other high end heatsink. thumbup.gif
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in actual fact. copper conducts heat better while aluminium extracts heat quicker.
i cant remember, but i remember seeing that in some german review site
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kay..got it..thanks for the info.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Apr 8 2007, 03:36 PM)
in actual fact. copper conducts heat better while aluminium extracts heat quicker.
i cant remember, but i remember seeing that in some german review site
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ya i agree. because of that the base mainly is copper that can conducts the heat faster and the fins are aluminum so that it can dissipate the heat faster wink.gif
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Apr 8 2007, 03:36 PM)
in actual fact. copper conducts heat better while aluminium extracts heat quicker.
i cant remember, but i remember seeing that in some german review site
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Thats exactly what i'm trying to explain loh. laugh.gif
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need opinion from you guys

which is better, spreading the as5 thin or just put a small drop inthe middle and squish it wit hsf??

i just did spring cleaning on my mobo, took everything out and off. i cleaned off the old as5 wit goo gone then wiped off with alcohol. so far the temp isn't high for my cpu (since i downclock to let the new as5 settle in) but my nb is still quite hot, at 50C. and that's using the new forcetake that i got recently

any help guys??
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Grab a chipset cooler for ur DFI chipset as well...

it has been well known that NF4 is hot chip .. many owner grab after market cooler like everrcool cooler to cool it ...

it's up to u how the thermal paste should be spread. i have coem over with three methods but seems to be working similar..

1st spread a small amount in the center and let the pressure from the heat sink to work it out.

2nd spread a small amount to the center. use a smooth surface plastic bag to wrap around the finger and even the tehrmal paste with the wrapped finger.

3rd spread a small amount in a square shape in the center and use a plastic card to spread evenly accross the CPU.
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QUOTE(Doom @ Apr 9 2007, 03:32 PM)
Grab a chipset cooler for ur DFI chipset as well...

it has been well known that NF4 is hot chip .. many owner grab after market cooler like everrcool cooler to cool it ...

it's up to u how the thermal paste should be spread. i have coem over with three methods but seems to be working similar..

1st spread a  small amount in the center and let the pressure from the heat sink to work it out.

2nd spread a small amount to the center. use a smooth surface plastic bag to wrap around the finger and even the tehrmal paste with the wrapped finger.

3rd spread a small amount in a square shape in the center and use a plastic card to spread evenly accross the CPU.
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actually i am using after-market cooler, amongst the best tongue.gif

JT-006 Forcetake

using plastic card is more harder than it seems. before this i used to wrap my finger in plastic and use that to spread evenly. but now i just put a drop and use hsf to spread it tongue.gif
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actually i am using after-market cooler, amongst the best tongue.gif

JT-006 Forcetake

using plastic card is more harder than it seems. before this i used to wrap my finger in plastic and use that to spread evenly. but now i just put a drop and use hsf to spread it tongue.gif
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dude. this will really make ur temps higher than usual.
a drop does the trick (even dispertion)
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Apr 9 2007, 04:20 PM)
dude. this will really make ur temps higher than usual.
a drop does the trick (even dispertion)
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that's y ;ar i just put a drop only biggrin.gif

but no diff yet... maybe positioning isnt' good sweat.gif
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hahahah .. .tha's why i still using the plastic card methd until now ..

difficult but easier to control the thickness level and coverage...

in general i don't think there's any difference regardless which method but i don't like the finger wrapping method the most as doing the spreading process with finger .. dust and air bubble might created during the process..


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what is the best software to determine pc temp..???i'm using biostar tforce & my proc was amd x2 3600...using stock HSF.

idle : 48
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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Apr 10 2007, 11:28 PM)
what is the best software to determine pc temp..???i'm using biostar tforce & my proc was amd x2 3600...using stock HSF.

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u can use speedfan, coretemp and everest. since 3 of them giving me same readings wink.gif

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i like speedfan, low resource consumption and useful!
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just asking, maybe wrong thread(if so sorry ar), but are Danger Den's Water blocks for cpu and vga any good?


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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Apr 21 2007, 02:09 AM)
just asking, maybe wrong thread(if so sorry ar), but are Danger Den's Water blocks for cpu and vga any good?
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Yes, you are in the wrong thread.
You should ask this question in the watercooling guides & tips.

Anyway, yerp, Danger Den's okay la, much much better if you want to compare it with Thermaltake, Coolermaster & Gigabyte waterblock. laugh.gif
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Added on April 23, 2007, 2:16 ami'm wodering,why my cpu hot???
i'm using zalman 9700 NT...my cpu when idle is 50-53c..when load orthos,my cpu is 63-66c...i'm using c2d E6600...when i read the review on new egg,all the user who had use this cooler their temp,most of them idle is just 35c below n when load juz 45c below....so now i'm very confused,tension why my cpu is not like them??? why my cpu hot??? anybody know to solve this problem????please help me....

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QUOTE(sixAxis @ Apr 23 2007, 02:14 AM)

Added on April 23, 2007, 2:16 ami'm wodering,why my cpu hot???
i'm using zalman 9700 NT...my cpu when idle is 50-53c..when load orthos,my cpu is 63-66c...i'm using c2d E6600...when i read the review on new egg,all the user who had use this cooler their temp,most of them idle is just 35c below n when load juz 45c below....so now i'm very confused,tension why my cpu is not like them??? why my cpu hot??? anybody know to solve this problem????please help me....
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i think the ppl that wrote the feedback on newegg are not live in malaysia.. sweat.gif
maybe they live at somewhere where the room temperature is damn lower than ours..

how to solve? WATERCOOLING! thumbup.gif
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my cpu temp is normally run at 48C most of the time. but after 3-4hours of playing STALKER, i checked my temp, the temp is now will reach to 53C..the temp will then become 50C when STALKER is closed and will remain at 50C.Is this normal? i am using e6300 and oc it to 2.6ghz..is the temp for my cpu normal?hope u guys can advise... thanks biggrin.gif
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Guys, need some help here..

Just now, i took out the Zerotherm cooler from my 7300GT and does some clean up. Then, i reapplied new TIM (previously AS5) with the TR Chill Factor. After that, i reboot my computer and realised that my current GC temperature is at a crazy 66c. Previously, it was just at 50c with AS5 and Zerotherm. What might be the problem here?
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post Apr 24 2007, 07:36 PM

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^mebi u need to check the HSF wheter its been fixed correctly smile.gif
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post Apr 24 2007, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Apr 24 2007, 07:36 PM)
^mebi u need to check the HSF wheter its been fixed correctly smile.gif
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Well, i just took out the HSF again, wipe off the TR Chill Factor and reapplied it with AS5. Reboot and to my surprise, it is at 47c now. rclxub.gif Weird though..

This is the way i do when i reapply the TIM:

- Take out the HSF
- Use Arctic Cleaner to wipe off the TIM and purify the surface
- Apply the TIM (Use rice grain for AS5 and apply on whole surface for TR Chill Factor
- Apply back the HSF

Is there anything wrong there?
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post Apr 24 2007, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(ravemaster @ Apr 24 2007, 01:45 PM)
my cpu temp is normally run at 48C most of the time. but after 3-4hours of playing STALKER, i checked my temp, the temp is now will reach to 53C..the temp will then become 50C when STALKER is closed and will remain at 50C.Is this normal? i am using e6300 and oc it to 2.6ghz..is the temp for my cpu normal?hope u guys can advise... thanks biggrin.gif
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at least please state what HSF you are using so that people can tell mar... doh.gif
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post Apr 25 2007, 11:33 AM

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Ok guys, i got a weird problem here. My gf's laptop used to be running very hot. I mean, when i put the laptop to a chair for about 15-20min and take it out, you could really feel the heat at the chair.However, i didnt really test the temperature at that time.

Anyway, we went and get another piece of 1g ram for the laptop (previously running at 256MB) as well as a laptop cooler (Zalman NC-1000) yesterday in order to help decrease the temperature. When she on the laptop without using the cooler (inserted the 1g ram), put onto a chair for about 1hour, the chair aint that hot. I mean, the heat produced is less already compared to last time where you could really feel the heat produced.

Then, i installed PC Wizard to test the temperature and its just showing 36c. What might be the problem before?Cause i am pretty sure it must be running higher than 36c even when turn on for 15min.Could adding a ram help the problem?

And when the laptop cooler was used, it drop the temperature to a mere 30-31c. Great buy there..lol...

The laptop spec:

Pentium M 1.3Ghz
256MB DDR233 (Upgraded with another 1G)
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post Apr 25 2007, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 24 2007, 09:48 PM)
at least please state what HSF you are using so that people can tell mar... doh.gif
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my bad tongue.gif i am currently using bigtyphoon XV with artic silver 5. i notice other people got lower temp while using this hsf..u think i have prob with my cpu temp?


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