Discussion about watercooling and the results, Version 2
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 Jul 26 2005, 11:50 PM, updated 21y ago
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The last thread have reach its maximum 2500 posts. So please enjoy discussion in version 2. If you got anything to request please PM me.
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Jul 27 2005, 02:19 AM
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Ok , PCCrazy, thanks for informing the rest of the changes. Anyway guys based on the article at systemcooling.com, it seems for ordinary loops, a good HMAX & QMAX pump is the recommended must have component when pairing with the Storm G4. Wonder how it'll do with lower end pumps with very short loops in the first place. Would be interesting to know once mine arrives. But I have a feeling that the Cyber Aqua would be able to give the G the muscle that it needs in the 1st place
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Jul 27 2005, 03:43 AM
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I would like to know what you water-cooling veterans think of me teaming up a Zalman Reserator with a Storm CPU block ? ( standard Reserator pump )
Performance wise ? I've been reading alot about the Storm needing a powerful pump. Do you guys think my standard Reserator pump would do the job ? This post has been edited by QUDERN: Jul 27 2005, 03:52 AM |
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Jul 27 2005, 10:11 AM
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If you are planning to use a reserator.... do try to look for a waterblock that would perform with low flow and low head, as in low QMax and low HMax
The pump in the resorator IMO is weak and definitely would not work very well when coupled with the g4. If your planning to get a reserator....use its own block or IMO again, the swiftech mcw6002 would be a good option. This post has been edited by TJye: Jul 27 2005, 10:12 AM |
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Jul 27 2005, 11:47 AM
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Jul 27 2005, 11:58 AM
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 omg...is cool  5*120mm fan |
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Jul 27 2005, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(QUDERN @ Jul 27 2005, 03:43 AM) I would like to know what you water-cooling veterans think of me teaming up a Zalman Reserator with a Storm CPU block ? ( standard Reserator pump ) If you still wanna use the Reserator, I'd suggest finding a way to lose the pump and use a better specced pump cos you'll seriously choke the poor block of sufficient water. A low flow based block like MCW6000 series would suit better if you plan to keep everything stock insteadPerformance wise ? I've been reading alot about the Storm needing a powerful pump. Do you guys think my standard Reserator pump would do the job ?  |
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Jul 27 2005, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jul 27 2005, 02:13 PM) If you still wanna use the Reserator, I'd suggest finding a way to lose the pump and use a better specced pump cos you'll seriously choke the poor block of sufficient water. A low flow based block like MCW6000 series would suit better if you plan to keep everything stock instead I've got a Reserator and I've just purchased the Storm. What if the loop is very short ( Reserator -> CPU -> Reserator ) I'm all for the aesthetics of my workstation, that's why I went for the Reserator cause I do not like see tubes and pump all over the place. What pump would be suitable to be placed inside the Reserator ? I want a pump that's small enough to fit inside the Reserator like the original pump inside. Have anyone of you tried the standard Reserator with a Storm ? Anyway, thanks for all the input. Cheers  |
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Jul 27 2005, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Jul 27 2005, 11:58 AM) [img] Man. That has got to b the biggest rad around. N it looks damn good too. Imagine that rad with a big pump n the Storm block.omg...is cool 5*120mm fan QUOTE QUDERN Posted Today, 03:07 PM I've got a Reserator and I've just purchased the Storm. What if the loop is very short ( Reserator -> CPU -> Reserator ) I'm all for the aesthetics of my workstation, that's why I went for the Reserator cause I do not like see tubes and pump all over the place. What pump would be suitable to be placed inside the Reserator ? I want a pump that's small enough to fit inside the Reserator like the original pump inside. Have anyone of you tried the standard Reserator with a Storm ? Anyway, thanks for all the input. Cheers I think the best small pump to fit ure reserator yet with adequate specs for the Storm wud b the MCP350 with 4m head n 350lph flow. This is the minimum that Swiftech specs for the Storm. This is the pump in my Corsair Cool kit too. It's very small n quiet. I can't even hear the pump. What r the specs of ure reserator pump though? This post has been edited by ianho: Jul 27 2005, 04:59 PM |
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Jul 27 2005, 07:15 PM
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i think u'll benefit more from the architecture of the storm G4 block with a more powerful pump... for a reserator it's better if u have some of the previous swiftech non restrictive blocks.. the G4s uses jet impingement design and are unlike previous MCW waterblocks..
it will work.. but not at full potential.. and maybe getting a MCW6000 block will yield better results instead |
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Jul 27 2005, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Jul 27 2005, 04:48 PM) Man. That has got to b the biggest rad around. N it looks damn good too. Imagine that rad with a big pump n the Storm block. The MCP350(tm) 12 VDC Pump is rated at 350L/hI think the best small pump to fit ure reserator yet with adequate specs for the Storm wud b the MCP350 with 4m head n 350lph flow. This is the minimum that Swiftech specs for the Storm. This is the pump in my Corsair Cool kit too. It's very small n quiet. I can't even hear the pump. What r the specs of ure reserator pump though? Maximum Integrated Water Pump for Reserator : 5 W, Qmax 300L/h Maximum Lift : 0.5m dammit  Mind borrowing me for a day to see if it fits my Reserator  QUOTE(babyelf @ Jul 27 2005, 07:15 PM) i think u'll benefit more from the architecture of the storm G4 block with a more powerful pump... for a reserator it's better if u have some of the previous swiftech non restrictive blocks.. the G4s uses jet impingement design and are unlike previous MCW waterblocks.. I guess you didn't read about the aesthetics part it will work.. but not at full potential.. and maybe getting a MCW6000 block will yield better results instead  I'm all for looks. Having some Rad and 5 fans coupled with some huge pump sitting on my table just isn't my style for the minimalis in me  This post has been edited by QUDERN: Jul 27 2005, 09:45 PM |
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Jul 27 2005, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Jul 27 2005, 11:58 AM) omg...is cool 5*120mm fan |
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Jul 27 2005, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jul 27 2005, 09:45 PM) OMG this design is so stupid, waste so much of the pressure on goin against the gravity. But if the inflow to the rad is from the top, wouldn't that create high pressure outflow at the bottom ?  |
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 Jul 27 2005, 09:49 PM
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Some pumps are build to run dry, if you submerge the MCP350. Prepare to RMA it. I think the best is still to change the whole setup. That is your best choice with the Storm block from Swiftech.
Btw can anyone confirm what Ohm variable resistor should I use for my MCP650 from voltage 7-12v? So far I know that I have to use 6 Ohm. |
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Jul 27 2005, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jul 27 2005, 09:45 PM) OMG this design is so stupid, waste so much of the pressure on goin against the gravity. lol...better then someone...then good enough  |
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Jul 27 2005, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(QUDERN @ Jul 27 2005, 09:47 PM) But if the inflow to the rad is from the top, wouldn't that create high pressure outflow at the bottom ? both of the inlet and outlet is from the bottom which means it'll still loose pressure to the gravity.instead of goin vertical, why not go horizontal ? i think thermaltake is try to sell overrated products again. This post has been edited by AllnGap: Jul 27 2005, 10:19 PM |
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Jul 27 2005, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(QUDERN @ Jul 27 2005, 09:19 PM) The MCP350(tm) 12 VDC Pump is rated at 350L/h 0.5m lift? Phuiyoh, that really sux man. We swap lah. I pinjam u the pump, u pinjam me ure 20" ACD. Maximum Integrated Water Pump for Reserator : 5 W, Qmax 300L/h Maximum Lift : 0.5m dammit Mind borrowing me for a day to see if it fits my Reserator  QUOTE(pr0di9y @ Jul 27 2005, 09:49 PM) Some pumps are build to run dry, if you submerge the MCP350. Prepare to RMA it. I think the best is still to change the whole setup. That is your best choice with the Storm block from Swiftech. The Reserator uses submerged pump kah? Didn't know that. Ooooooops.Btw can anyone confirm what Ohm variable resistor should I use for my MCP650 from voltage 7-12v? So far I know that I have to use 6 Ohm. |
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Jul 28 2005, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Jul 27 2005, 11:16 PM) 0.5m lift? Phuiyoh, that really sux man. We swap lah. I pinjam u the pump, u pinjam me ure 20" ACD. If only I didn't love my ACD so much, I would be happy to The Reserator uses submerged pump kah? Didn't know that. Ooooooops. I guess I'll go get the Swiftech one and mount it on my butt so there'll be less clutter on the table  Yes, like those aquarium filter pumps. Got diving licience, open water 50 meters This post has been edited by QUDERN: Jul 28 2005, 12:41 AM |
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Jul 28 2005, 12:51 AM
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hey alln...still not done wit ur wc kit ah??i have been waiting so long for it la..
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Jul 28 2005, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE(pr0di9y @ Jul 27 2005, 09:49 PM) Some pumps are build to run dry, if you submerge the MCP350. Prepare to RMA it. I think the best is still to change the whole setup. That is your best choice with the Storm block from Swiftech. You have to find out what's the current rating for the pump at the moment. Easiest is to use the general formula of V = I x R to determine what's the required resistance range that would be sufficient for such an applicationBtw can anyone confirm what Ohm variable resistor should I use for my MCP650 from voltage 7-12v? So far I know that I have to use 6 Ohm. |
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