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post Jun 28 2021, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(lowyat101 @ Jun 28 2021, 05:28 PM)
Just to check, the TnG eWallet and Grabpay promo has ended right? Maybe it's time to cancel the card and wait for the 12 months cycle for the next NTB promo  sweat.gif
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post Jul 1 2021, 11:46 AM

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Was trying to pay tnb bill via tnb app. As usual select the card to pay and then it will ask for CVV of the card, I entered wrong one but it will proceed to the payment+otp page.. and payment went thru successfully..

So what is the real purpose of entering cvv since it is not validating at all?

Not sure if only hsbc card or merely the app issue.


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post Jul 1 2021, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Jul 1 2021, 11:46 AM)
Was trying to pay tnb bill via tnb app. As usual select the card to pay and then it will ask for CVV of the card, I entered wrong one but it will proceed to the payment+otp page.. and payment went thru successfully..

So what is the real purpose of entering cvv since it is not validating at all?

Not sure if only hsbc card or merely the app issue.
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Doesn’t happen to HSBC only, I only PBB doesn’t verify CVV as well. I think one other bank also have this issue. I called PBB before and they tell me that OTP is the check for everything. CVV doesn’t matter. Stupid response but I didn’t pursue further.
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Jul 1 2021, 12:04 PM)
Doesn’t happen to HSBC only, I only PBB doesn’t verify CVV as well. I think one other bank also have this issue. I called PBB before and they tell me that OTP is the check for everything. CVV doesn’t matter. Stupid response but I didn’t pursue further.
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lol.. wonder if could happen to bigpay topup also coz it will also ask for cvv..
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post Jul 13 2021, 10:08 AM

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Haven't come across this situation, usually cancel the card before anniversary. AF and SST charged to my card in this month statement, the card last used was back in May 2021, no transaction after AF/SST. Called CS request for waiver, she said only can waive AF, still have to paid SST because already charge and this is to paid to BNM. Then i request to cancel the card, the same answer CS replied, still need to pay SST. My understanding is bank should allow cancel the card without need to pay AF\SST as long as no transaction made after the AF\SST charge to your card, does this not apply to HSBC? Now the only way CS told me to get rid of AF/SST is pay the statement amount to avoid interest, AF reversal will only reflect in next month statement. Swipe 3 times within 45 days, SST reversal will credit back within 7-8 weeks. Anyone have different experiences than this?
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post Jul 13 2021, 10:18 AM

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They only can waive AF. No bank can waive SST. Since HSBC already give you rebate/cash back with conditions, just accept it.

QUOTE(L3SME @ Jul 13 2021, 10:08 AM)
Haven't come across this situation, usually cancel the card before anniversary. AF and SST charged to my card in this month statement, the card last used was back in May 2021, no transaction after AF/SST. Called CS request for waiver, she said only can waive AF, still have to paid SST because already charge and this is to paid to BNM. Then i request to cancel the card, the same answer CS replied, still need to pay SST. My understanding is bank should allow cancel the card without need to pay AF\SST as long as no transaction made after the AF\SST charge to your card, does this not apply to HSBC? Now the only way CS told me to get rid of AF/SST is pay the statement amount to avoid interest, AF reversal will only reflect in next month statement. Swipe 3 times within 45 days, SST reversal will credit back within 7-8 weeks. Anyone have different experiences than this?
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post Jul 13 2021, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(jhleo1 @ Jul 13 2021, 10:18 AM)
They only can waive AF. No bank can waive SST. Since HSBC already give you rebate/cash back with conditions, just accept it.
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so meaning customer still have to pay SST even they want to cancel the card, even no transaction made after SST fee charged? it will be too late to ask for cancellation if it charge to your card?
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post Jul 13 2021, 11:28 AM

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post Jul 13 2021, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(thecurious @ Jul 13 2021, 11:28 AM)
Some banks do that out of goodwill, they are not required to give rebates for annual fees or sst. Regardless of whether you transacted or not.

Annual fee they waive for you out of goodwill, they earn less but keep customer happy.

But sst they pay to government, just because you decided to cancel late, they have to pay extra RM25 to government and lose a customer using their product.

Takkan you cancel their product but in the end the bank still need to cover your costs. Don't need to do business?

Since they say they will waive your annual fees, it's already good will.
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Nop, it's not chargeable as long there's no transaction after the SST and there's no timeframe stipulated.

28. In the case of a cancelled and unused card after the renewal date, service tax is not required to be charged and accounted for if the service tax has not been paid. If service tax has been paid after the renewal date, the card issuer is entitled to deduct the service tax paid from the tax return provided that the approval of the tax deduction has been approved.

https://mysst.customs.gov.my/assets/documen...arge%20Card.pdf
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Jul 13 2021, 11:35 AM)
Nop, it's not chargeable as long there's no transaction after the SST and there's no timeframe stipulated.

28. In the case of a cancelled and unused card after the renewal date, service tax is not required to be charged and accounted for if the service tax has not been paid. If service tax has been paid after the renewal date, the card issuer is entitled to deduct the service tax paid from the tax return provided that the approval of the tax deduction has been approved.

https://mysst.customs.gov.my/assets/documen...arge%20Card.pdf
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I stand corrected. Thanks for sharing.
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post Jul 13 2021, 04:00 PM

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Yes but HSBC already offer you cash back/credit back RM25 with conditions. You still not happy? If so, you can fight with HSBC. It may track months to settle the issue.

QUOTE(L3SME @ Jul 13 2021, 10:37 AM)
so meaning customer still have to pay SST even they want to cancel the card, even no transaction made after SST fee charged? it will be too late to ask for cancellation if it charge to your card?
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QUOTE(L3SME @ Jul 13 2021, 10:08 AM)
Haven't come across this situation, usually cancel the card before anniversary. AF and SST charged to my card in this month statement, the card last used was back in May 2021, no transaction after AF/SST. Called CS request for waiver, she said only can waive AF, still have to paid SST because already charge and this is to paid to BNM. Then i request to cancel the card, the same answer CS replied, still need to pay SST. My understanding is bank should allow cancel the card without need to pay AF\SST as long as no transaction made after the AF\SST charge to your card, does this not apply to HSBC? Now the only way CS told me to get rid of AF/SST is pay the statement amount to avoid interest, AF reversal will only reflect in next month statement. Swipe 3 times within 45 days, SST reversal will credit back within 7-8 weeks. Anyone have different experiences than this?
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Complaint via BNM. Make a stand yourself, as you are correct. SST is prepaid for the 12 months in advance and HSBC has no right not to cancel your card without paying the SST.

You will win. i.e. able to cancel the CC without paying for the SST.

Been there, done that, won it.
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post Jul 13 2021, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(jhleo1 @ Jul 13 2021, 04:00 PM)
Yes but HSBC already offer you cash back/credit back RM25 with conditions. You still not happy? If so, you can fight with HSBC. It may track months to settle the issue.
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It's not just a matter of happy or not happy, it's about your right as consumer. I am seeking clarification if that's is correct process. As some already pointed out with proof, what cs told me was wrong. I hope you have certain ground when providing advice to others and not to mislead them if you are unsure.
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I didn't said you are wrong. Do read carefully.

QUOTE(L3SME @ Jul 13 2021, 10:55 PM)
It's not just a matter of happy or not happy, it's about your right as consumer. I am seeking clarification if that's is correct process. As some already pointed out with proof, what cs told me was wrong. I hope you have certain ground when providing advice to others and not to mislead them if you are unsure.
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QUOTE(L3SME @ Jul 13 2021, 10:55 PM)
It's not just a matter of happy or not happy, it's about your right as consumer. I am seeking clarification if that's is correct process. As some already pointed out with proof, what cs told me was wrong. I hope you have certain ground when providing advice to others and not to mislead them if you are unsure.
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I"m very free now, so let me share more juicy details brows.gif

Write down all the important dates and times you contact/call/email HSBC CS.
e.g.
1-Jul 11:05am called CS to request cancel. CS offers 3 swipes, but I decline to continue CC, etc.
7-Jul 2:45pm email CS to follow up, asking why still not cancel
13-Jul 1:55pm called CS again but they are not willing, etc.

You must do your work above few times with several working days gap, to show you have tried your best before approach BNM. That's what I've been doing when I burn the bridges with banks for the past many years, but that's another story for another time.

Submit these as data to BNM when you lodge your complain, providing justification I mention above earlier that SST is "prepaid" or "in-advance", then wait few days to a week or max 10 days, provided you do your homework above with complete details. Otherwise BNM may ask you submit more details. If all done in order, you will receive email from BNM to HSBC, cc you, requesting HSBC to respond within 7-14 working days rolleyes.gif

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Nombor Rujukan:  xxxxxxxxx

Tuan/Puan,

Aduan terhadap HSBC BANK MALAYSIA BERHAD 

Kami merujuk e-mel tuan/puan perkara di atas.

2.    Pihak HSBC BANK MALAYSIA BERHAD dikehendaki mengambil tindakan berhubung isu-isu yang dibangkitkan dan memberi maklum balas terus kepada tuan/puan dalam tempoh dua minggu dari tarikh surat ini. Pihak HSBC BANK MALAYSIA BERHAD dikehendaki mengemukakan satu salinan surat maklum balas kepada Bank Negara Malaysia (BNM) untuk tindakan kami. Kami akan meneliti penjelasan HSBC BANK MALAYSIA BERHAD dan memberi ulasan sewajarnya, sekiranya perlu.

3.    Sebagai pengawalselia Penyedia Perkhidmatan Kewangan (PPK), peranan kami adalah untuk memastikan pihak PPK mengendalikan perniagaan instutusi kewangan secara adil, bertanggungjawab dan profesional. Pihak BNM hanya mengendalikan isu-isu berkaitan pelanggaran undang-undang dan standard yang dikawalselia oleh pihak BNM. Pihak BNM tidak mengendalikan pertikaian komersil di antara tuan dan pihak PPK termasuklah mengarahkan pembayaran gantirugi oleh PPK.

4.    Pihak tuan/puan boleh merujuk kepada piagam pelanggan kami di laman sesawang BNM www.bnm.gov.my untuk maklumat selanjutnya.

Sekian, terima kasih.

Sekiranya pihak PPK tidak mengemukakan sebarang maklum balas secara bertulis di dalam tempoh yang ditetapkan, sila hubungi pihak kami dan gunakan nombor rujukan kami di atas.

s.k: HSBC BANK MALAYSIA BERHAD

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Unit Pengurusan Aduan dan Khidmat Nasihat, Laman Informasi Nasihat dan Khidmat (LINK)
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Just sit back, relax and you will get funny replies from HSBC, so called local-global-bank-whatever doh.gif
Continue your banter with HSBC.

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We refer to your email addressed to Bank Negara Malaysia, which was referred to us on xxxxx.

We are sorry to hear of your recent banking experience. Please allow us to investigate the matter and get back to you by xxxxx. In the meantime, do call me on 03-8894 xxxx or e-mail me at complaints@hsbc.com.my if you need to reach me.

To find out more about our complaint handling procedure, please visit http://www.hsbc.com.my/contactus


HSBC may still want to argue, but you stick to the "in advance".

At the end, die die to keep face, HSBC will waive it but phrase it in a way to save face and still put the blame on you shakehead.gif

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As a gesture of goodwill, we’re pleased to inform that we’ll credit a cashback of RM25 to offset the SST and reverse the Late Payment Charge. Once the credit card account had been zerorised, we’ll proceed to cancel your credit card and keep you updated on the card status by next week.


I chose not to continue to argue with them, that it is not HSBC gesture of goodwill, but that is my right as a consumer that I am entitled to not pay the SST and to have the CC terminated. It's that simple right and we don't have to go this route. BTW, why not you try until the end and share here for other reference as well ?
Yes, I drag this SST issue until few ringgit for the late payment charges and stick to my ground and continue to play the game. In my case, I have strong CCRIS and CTOS so it doesn't affect my future credit/loan application after that.

I've shared my portion already, your call icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 14 2021, 04:30 PM

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They told me same thing about SST so I paid the RM25.
Swipe 3 x times within 45 days to get RM25 "Cashback".
Top-up ewallet for RM25. Call to cancel the credit card haha.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 13 2021, 11:39 PM)
I"m very free now, so let me share more juicy details  brows.gif

Write down all the important dates and times you contact/call/email HSBC CS.
e.g.
1-Jul 11:05am called CS to request cancel. CS offers 3 swipes, but I decline to continue CC, etc.
7-Jul 2:45pm email CS to follow up, asking why still not cancel
13-Jul 1:55pm called CS again but they are not willing, etc.

You must do your work above few times with several working days gap, to show you have tried your best before approach BNM. That's what I've been doing when I burn the bridges with banks for the past many years, but that's another story for another time.

Submit these as data to BNM when you lodge your complain, providing justification I mention above earlier that SST is "prepaid" or "in-advance", then wait few days to a week or max 10 days, provided you do your homework above with complete details. Otherwise BNM may ask you submit more details. If all done in order, you will receive email from BNM to HSBC, cc you, requesting HSBC to respond within 7-14 working days  rolleyes.gif
Just sit back, relax and you will get funny replies from HSBC, so called local-global-bank-whatever  doh.gif
Continue your banter with HSBC.
HSBC may still want to argue, but you stick to the "in advance".

At the end, die die to keep face, HSBC will waive it but phrase it in a way to save face and still put the blame on you  shakehead.gif
I chose not to continue to argue with them, that it is not HSBC gesture of goodwill, but that is my right as a consumer that I am entitled to not pay the SST and to have the CC terminated. It's that simple right and we don't have to go this route. BTW, why not you try until the end and share here for other reference as well ?
Yes, I drag this SST issue until few ringgit for the late payment charges and stick to my ground and continue to play the game. In my case, I have strong CCRIS and CTOS so it doesn't affect my future credit/loan application after that.

I've shared my portion already, your call  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks for the details of your experiences. Really appreciate.
For the moment I don't think i have time to go thru all these process, loaded with tons of office works. But I am not going to use my own money to pay this month statement outstanding balance, will use bank money instead, by using ewallet withdraw method, rinse and repeat until they reverse the sst, then will call to cancel the card.
Thanks again for sharing.


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QUOTE(kokomon @ Jul 14 2021, 04:30 PM)
They told me same thing about SST so I paid the RM25.
Swipe 3 x times within 45 days to get RM25 "Cashback".
Top-up ewallet for RM25. Call to cancel the credit card haha.
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Yeah they are quite generous tbh. They just gave on the spot once the question is popped. Just that the RM25 needs time to be credited.
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I just got my new hsbc credit card. It says I'm entitled to a Sony headphones upon Rm2k spend which I did shortly after activation.

Any clue how long before they actually send the gift?

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