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TSalbnok
post Dec 22 2014, 03:18 PM, updated 11y ago

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Welcome to V61!!!

Previous threads:
V60
V59
V58 V57 V56


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The Sony Alpha User List is managed by chiahau. Click here to jump to it!

Sony Alpha F.A.Q
courtesy of Ahmike

Common Kelvin White Balance Settings:
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Wireless Flash Compatibility List:
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Removing Pop-Up Flash Effect In Wireless Flash Mode:
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Sony Alpha Lens Line-up: HERE courtesy of vcxv

Below are the official additional accessories* that comes with respective Sony Alpha camera:

Flash hotshoe cover (Sony FASHC1AM) - A100, A77 (soft version), A700, A900
Remote Commander clip - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700, A900
Eyepiece cover / flash hotshoe cover holder - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700
Cheap Sony neckstrap - A200, A300, A350
Good Sony neckstrap - A100, A77, A700, A900
Wireless Infrared Remote Control - A700, A900

* list provided by albnok

Sony Alpha Support Page and Alpha User Manuals: Sony Support Site A200 A300/A350 A700 A900

How to clean your Alpha sensor by albnok:



Some useful links:

Tamron/Sigma/Sony/Minolta 70-200mm F2.8 Shootout
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1243

Ultra Wide Comparison
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1324

Alpha street pricelist updated 26th October 2013:

Camera

Sony A230 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM14xx
Sony A290 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM14xx
Sony A330 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM18xx
Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM20xx
Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM24xx
Sony A390 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM17xx
Sony A33 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM21xx
Sony A33 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM23xx
Sony A35 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM21xx
Sony A37 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM15xx
Sony A500 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM31xx
Sony A550 body only = RM21xx
Sony A550 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM21xx
Sony A550 + 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM40xx
Sony A580 body only = RM24xx
Sony A580 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM27xx
Sony A55 body only + 8GB MSPD HX = RM21xx
Sony A55 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM25xx
Sony A55 + 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM26xx (Studio Zaloon)
Sony A55 + 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM37xx (Studio Zaloon)
Sony A57 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM18xx
Sony A58 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM19xx NEW
Sony A65 body only = RM26xx
Sony A65 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM28xx
Sony A700 + 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM33xx
Sony A77 body only = RM38xx
Sony A77 + 16-50mm F2.8 DT SSM = RM48xx
Sony A850 body only = RM61xx
Sony A900 body only = RM73xx (Studio Zaloon)
Sony A99 body only = RM74xx
Sony NEX-3 + 16mm F2.8 = RM16xx
Sony NEX-3 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM18xx
Sony NEX-3 + 16mm F2.8 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM22xx
Sony NEX-C3 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM19xx
Sony NEX-F3 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM18xx
Sony NEX-F3 + 16mm F2.8 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM22xx
Sony NEX-F3 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS = RM25xx
Sony NEX-3N + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 8GB SD (x2) = RM14xx NEW
Sony NEX-3N + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS + 8GB SD = RM18xx NEW
Sony NEX-5 + 16mm F2.8 = RM21xx
Sony NEX-5 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM22xx
Sony NEX-5 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 4GB MSPD = RM23xx
Sony NEX-5 + 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS + 8GB MSPD + LCD protector = RM32xx
Sony NEX-5N + 16mm F2.8 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 8GB MSPD = RM26xx
Sony NEX-5R + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 8GB SD = RM18xx
Sony NEX-5R + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS + 8GB SD = RM25xx
Sony NEX-6 + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 8GB SD = RM27xx
Sony NEX-6 + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS + 8GB SD (x2) = RM34xx
Sony NEX-7 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 16GB SD = RM39xx
Sony VG-900 = RM94xx

The following suffixes identify what lens comes with the camera body:

G = Sony 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DT
K = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT
L = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM
M = Sony 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM
P = Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT
Q = Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM (or Sony 16-50mm F2.8 DT SSM with A77)
W = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6
X = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT
Y = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT (2) SAM
Z = Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA

For Sony NEX bodies:

A = Sony E 16mm F2.8 pancake
D = Sony E 16mm F2.8 pancake + Sony E 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS
H = Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS
K = Sony E 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS
L = Sony E PZ 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS pancake
Y = Sony E PZ 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS pancake + Sony E 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS

Battery Grip

Sony VG-B30AM for A200/A300/A350 = RM6xx
Sony VG-B50AM for A450/A500/A550/A560/A580 = RM6xx
Sony VG-C70AM for A700 = RM9xx
Sony VG-C90AM for A850/A900 = RM9xx

Battery

Sony NP-FH50 battery for A230/A290/A330/A380/A390 = RM2xx
Sony NP-FW50 battery for NEX-3/NEX-C3/NEX-F3/NEX-3N/NEX-5/NEX-5N/NEX-5R/NEX-5T/NEX-6/NEX-7/A33/A35/A37/A55 = RM2xx
Sony NP-FM500H battery for A100/A200/A300/A350/A450/A500/A550/A560/A580/A700/A850/A900/A57/A58/A65/A77/A99 = RM2xx

Other Accessories

Sony FDA-EVS1 electronic viewfinder for NEX-5N = RM9xx

Flash

Sony HVL-F20S = RM3xx
Sony HVL-F20AM = RM4xx
Sony HVL-F42AM = RM7xx
Sony HVL-F43AM = RM7xx
Sony HVL-F58AM = RM11xx
Sony HVL-F60M = RM11xx

Sony/Minolta Used Lenses

Minolta 28mm F2.8 = RM450-600
Minolta 35-70 F4 (mini beercan) = RM250-400
Minolta 50mm F1.4 = RM750-850
Minolta 50mm F1.7 = RM450-600
Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT = RM450-550
Minolta 70-210mm F4 (beercan) = RM750-1100
Minolta 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 (big beercan) = RM1000-1500
Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 = RM450-550

New APS-C / DT Crop Lenses

Samyang 8mm F3.5 = RM10xx
Sony 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 DT = RM20xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA = RM25xx
Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM16xx
Sony 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM16xx
Sony 30mm F2.8 DT SAM Macro = RM7xx
Sony 35mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM6xx
Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM5xx
Sigma 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC HSM Macro = RM30xx

E-mount Lenses For Alpha NEX Cameras

Sigma 19mm F2.8 EX DN = RM7xx
Sigma 30mm F2.8 EX DN = RM7xx
Sony E 30mm F3.5 Macro = RM7xx
Sony E 50mm F1.8 OSS = RM9xx
Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS = RM21xx
Sony E Carl Zeiss 16-70mm F4 ZA = RM31xx NEW
Sony E 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS = RM8xx

New Full-Frame Lenses

Sony 16mm F2.8 Diagonal Fisheye = RM25xx
Sony 20mm F2.8 = RM19xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 24-70mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx
Sony 24-105mm F3.5-4.5 = RM18xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 24mm F2.0 SSM ZA = RM38xx
Sony 28mm F2.8 = RM8xx
Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM = RM26xx
Samyang 35mm F1.4 = RM15xx
Sony 35mm F1.4G = RM45xx
Sony 50mm F1.4 = RM10xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 50mm F1.4 ZA SSM = RM42xx NEW
Sony 50mm F2.8 Macro = RM14xx
Sony 85mm F2.8 SAM = RM8xx
Samyang 85mm F1.4 = RM10xx
Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 Macro = RM30xx
Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro = RM38xx
Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM = RM54xx
Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM = RM25xx
Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM = RM54xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA = RM50xx
Sony 100mm F2.8 Macro = RM23xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA = RM48xx
Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus = RM36xx
Sony 500mm F8.0 AF Reflex = RM25xx
Sony 300mm F2.8G SSM = RM20xxx
Sony 1.4x Teleconverter = RM15xx
Sony 2.0x Teleconverter = RM15xx
Sony LA-EA1 lens adapter = RM5xx
Sony LA-EA2 lens adapter = RM9xx
Sony VCL-ECF1 fisheye adapter = RM3xx

Userbars!

NEX: http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff385/shahibbul/AlphaNex-2.png (thanks to shahibbul!)

A100: image url: http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2687/alpha100cb9.png

A200: image url: http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1922/a200.png

A230: image url: http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8318/a230.png

A300: image url: http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2802/a300.png

A330: image url: http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4850/a330.png

A350: image url: http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3761/a350.png

A380: image url: http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4733/a380.png

A390: image url: http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5741/a390.png

A550: image url: http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2650/a550.png

A700: image url: http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7245/a700.png

A850: image url: http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8928/a850.png

A900: image url: http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/5185/alpha900wp4.png

QUOTE(edpaul @ Jul 18 2014, 04:45 PM)
User List, if you have any question you may directly PM some of the user with the same camera for solutions smile.gif

NEX 3 Series
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NEX 5 Series
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NEX-6
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NEX-7
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The New Generation Alpha E mount
A3000
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A5000
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A6000
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The Alpha FE mount (FullFrame)

A7
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A7R
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A7S
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post Dec 22 2014, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Jul 18 2014, 04:44 PM)
MODERATOR NOTE: "APP/SOFTWARE SHARING" IS NOT ALLOWED HERE.

Previous NEX Threads
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The SONY NEX Discussion Thread V5
The SONY NEX Discussion Thread Ver. 3N
The SONY NEX Discussion Thread Ver. 3
The SONY NEX Discussion Thread Ver. 2
The SONY NEX Discussion Thread Ver. 1

Lowyat.Net NEX Photo Gallery
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1480097

Sony Workshops
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user posted image
Sony Alpha Workshop Listing

Sony software links (play memories, Image Data Converter, Music Transfer, Remote Camera Control)
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Sony Imaging Software
playmemoriescameraapps
Review pages
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NEX-3 and NEX-5:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/SonyNex5Nex3/

NEX-C3:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonynexc3/

NEX-F3:
DPreview of sony-alpha-nex-f3
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/31/sony-nex-f3-review/

NEX-3N
hpopphoto camera-test-sony-alpha-nex-3n

NEX-5N:
http://www.dpreview.com/products/sony/slrs/sony_nex5n

NEX-5R:
photographyblog  sony_nex_5r_review

NEX-6:
techradar Nex-6 Early Review
ephotozine review sony-nex-6
dxomark Reviews Sony-NEX-6-The-compact-hybrid-synthesis

NEX-7:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonynex7/

NEX-7N:

A7:

A7R:
cameralabs.com  reviews Sony_Alpha_A7r

E-Mount Lenses review:
http://www.photozone.de/sony_nex
Kurt review of Tamron 18200 NEX
ephotozine.com tamron-18-200mm-f-3-5-6-3-di-iii-vc-nex-lens-review
Kurt review of sony_nex_55_210mm
review-sony-50mm-f1-8-nex
lenstip Lens_review-Sigma_19_mm_f_2.8_EX_DN
lenstip Lens_review-Sigma_30_mm_f_2.8_EX_DN
slrlensreview carl-zeiss-sonnar-24mm-f18-nex-lens-review
ephotozine sony-e-35mm-f-1-8-oss-lens-review
soundimageplus.blogspot.be 16-50mm-lens-for-nex review (honest and frank)
luminous-landscape review sony_10-18_e_mount_for_nex
kurtmunger sony_nex_carl_zeiss_24

SEL1670Z Zeiss 16-70 f4
Adapters
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Sony LA-EA1
Sony LA-EA2

metabones-ef-to-e-mount-adapter-for-sony-nex-review
Kipon
sony-nex-5-and-adapter-a-quick-test-with-the-leica-50-summarit-lens
http:/fotodiox-pro-lens-mount-adapter-canon-eos-lens-to-sony-alpha-nex-camera-adapter-fit-sony-nex-3-nex-5-fits-eos-ef-and-efs-lenses

Sony accessories
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Sony NEX Accessories
E-mount System Chart
NEX-3,5,6,7 Firmware links
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http://www.sony-asia.com/support/productca...+e+mount+camera

1. Click on the picture of your camera or type in your model in the search textbox.
2. Click on the Downloads Tab.
3. Select your operating system
4. Click on 'Go to Download Page' link
5. Please follow the detailed instructions and illustrations provided by Sony.

Upgrading of firmware is a risky procedure; do it with utmost care and attention:
When performing the firmware upgrade, please use a fully charged rechargeable battery pack NP-FW50 or the AC adaptor AC-PW20 (sold separately).

Do not remove the battery or AC adaptor during the upgrade; otherwise, the camera may become inoperable due to the sudden power shutdown.

Remove the memory card from the camera beforehand.

When using an A-mount lens with the LA-EA2 Mount Adaptor (sold separately) and setting to use the AF Micro Adj. function, the registered value is reset

Helpful Tutorials and Step by Steps for NEX:

General:
Sensor Sizes and Crop Factors
Ken Rockwell tutorials
photopursue depth-of-field-examples
globetrotterdiaries love-is-in-the-air-create-your-own-heart-shaped-bokeh

photographymad 10-top-photography-composition-rules
colorpilot composition_rules
wikipedia wiki Composition_visual_arts
Alpha/NEX Specific:
Alpha Lighting Guide/Brochure
Search - Sony Support
sony uk - learn and enjoy (various topics on Cybershot,DSLRs and Handycam)

sonyalphanex.blogspot, clean sensor function of sony-nex-camera
Youtube Steve Huff on Focus Peaking
SonyAlphaLabs Tutorials
NEX6 IR Mod
Seagull SYK for NEX. To trigger external flash by ignoring preflash
Sharpening NEX-7 files
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any1 can share any cctv lens review? interested to play around with it
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Another shot from Sony A7 + Voigtlander 35mm f/1.4 SC

May I ask sifu around here how do you turn on the timelapse mode for the camera, lazy watch youtube, would rather read about it.

Did not want to crop the left side to show you the distortion from the lens.

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QUOTE(albnok @ Dec 22 2014, 03:23 PM)
I got mine through chiahau a long time ago.

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I don't have a picture of it on my A7S though. It's not shaky but then with the A7S I am at 1/160s all the time. I still think it's huge though.

Also, it's time to close this thread! Remember your questions and bring them over here.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3448314
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is it the same 35mm that samyang just launched for full frame?

QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Dec 22 2014, 03:43 PM)
Another shot from Sony A7 + Voigtlander 35mm f/1.4 SC

May I ask sifu around here how do you turn on the timelapse mode for the camera, lazy watch youtube, would rather read about it.

Did not want to crop the left side to show you the distortion from the lens.

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how much u bought this lens and where? and mind to show the photo of a7 with it? i am looking for 35mm F1.4 also... must be priced below 2k.. XD

samyang or Voigtlander ? which better in term of sharpness?

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Hey avid photographers, just one quick question. Which model you guys are interested in getting? Doing a survey to have a proper market instead of hitting around the bush.
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Dec 22 2014, 04:29 PM)
Hey avid photographers, just one quick question. Which model you guys are interested in getting? Doing a survey to have a proper market instead of hitting around the bush.
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for me i need lens...35mm and 85mm...a-mount...
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Dec 22 2014, 04:15 PM)
is it the same 35mm that samyang just launched for full frame?
how much u bought this lens and where? and mind to show the photo of a7 with it? i am looking for 35mm F1.4 also... must be priced below 2k.. XD

samyang or Voigtlander ? which better in term of sharpness?
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There's only one Samyang 35mm F1.4 UMC as far as I know. My review of it:

http://glaringnotebook.com/?p=1569

Did you mean the Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM Art with autofocus?

Also, you'll have to go to Studio Zaloon to compare the Samyang and Voigtlander.

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QUOTE(hazril @ Dec 22 2014, 04:50 PM)
for me i need lens...35mm and 85mm...a-mount...
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SAL35F18 and SAL85F28?
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QUOTE(albnok @ Dec 22 2014, 04:50 PM)
There's only one Samyang 35mm F1.4 UMC as far as I know. My review of it:

http://glaringnotebook.com/?p=1569

Did you mean the Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM Art with autofocus?

Also, you'll have to go to Studio Zaloon to compare the Samyang and Voigtlander.
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ur review seemed to be good enough... haha... zaloon selling voigtlander also? agak agak berapa price?
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Dec 22 2014, 05:11 PM)
ur review seemed to be good enough... haha... zaloon selling voigtlander also? agak agak berapa price?
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Dunno, call him? Otherwise this is what Google says. This is a lot smaller than my Samyang though!

http://famecherry.com/shop-with-us-2/essen...-4-nokton-lens/
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QUOTE(albnok @ Dec 22 2014, 05:14 PM)
Dunno, call him? Otherwise this is what Google says. This is a lot smaller than my Samyang though!

http://famecherry.com/shop-with-us-2/essen...-4-nokton-lens/
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quite pricy though.. hahaha.. wait until my lenses are out.. short of cash now... any takers for my lenses? shoot a price to me.. hahahaa
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Dec 22 2014, 04:15 PM)
is it the same 35mm that samyang just launched for full frame?
how much u bought this lens and where? and mind to show the photo of a7 with it? i am looking for 35mm F1.4 also... must be priced below 2k.. XD

samyang or Voigtlander ? which better in term of sharpness?
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Hello its a voit, very hard lens to focus, if you go too near you cant focus and misfocus. if you go far misfocus, your distance must be chun when it comes to f/1.4-f/4.

Around f/8 everything is better and sharper but you lost depth of field.

I bought from a Leica user in Photo Malaysia forum for 1.2k condition 7/10

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took this 10mins ago.
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Dec 22 2014, 05:43 PM)
Hello its a voit, very hard lens to focus, if you go too near you cant focus and misfocus. if you go far misfocus, your distance must be chun when it comes to f/1.4-f/4.

Around f/8 everything is better and sharper but you lost depth of field.

I bought from a Leica user in Photo Malaysia forum for 1.2k condition 7/10

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it is not about voit to be a hard lens to focus, you just need more practice.. generally 35mm should be easier to nail a sharp focus compared to those higher focal length primes like 85mm F1.4.. from the review itself, this voig seemed to be softer at wide open compared to samyang 35mm.. tongue.gif i will try to find someone to try both of these samyang 35mm and voig 35mm before i buy any of them..

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Has my rx100 grip arrived yet?
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Christmas came early! I actually got my A7 body (new) for just RM3k with full warrantee + 16GB UHS-1 SD card! Also got 2 lens together with it...The Rokinon 85 1.4 and Zeiss FE 55 1.8

really cant wait to shoot with it! rclxm9.gif
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*ADD* I am deciding to get an UWA tomorrow but I dont know which one to get. I am looking at Samyang 14mm 2.8 or Voigtlander 15mm Heliar
Samyang seems like a great bang for buck, but the size and asthetic for the Voigtlander is just sooooo tempting!

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QUOTE(NutZ748 @ Dec 22 2014, 09:05 PM)
Christmas came early! I actually got my A7 body (new) for just RM3k with full warrantee + 16GB UHS-1 SD card! Also got 2 lens together with it...The Rokinon 85 1.4 and Zeiss FE 55 1.8

really cant wait to shoot with it!  rclxm9.gif
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*ADD* I am deciding to get an UWA tomorrow but I dont know which one to get. I am looking at Samyang 14mm 2.8 or Voigtlander 15mm Heliar
Samyang seems like a great bang for buck, but the size and asthetic for the Voigtlander is just sooooo tempting!
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how much damage? hahahaa... post some sample photo of that 85mm... nice strap there... i am looking for strap too..
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how much damage? hahahaa... post some sample photo of that 85mm... nice strap there... i am looking for strap too..
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Around 6k+ for the body, 55 1.8 and LA-EA3 (I owned the 85 since my previous A65), tomorrow is going to increase the damage XD

Sample pic with the 85... It is FANTASTIC combination with FF, quite sharp wide-open, Only problem is the CA.
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Thanks for the compliment biggrin.gif The strap is actually a very very old strap(older than me!) from a Yashica Electro 35 rangefinder which happens to fit very well on the A7. I dont like the original strap by sony, didnt even touch it since I bought the A7

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Dec 22 2014, 06:05 PM)
it is not about voit to be a hard lens to focus, you just need more practice.. generally 35mm should be easier to nail a sharp focus compared to those higher focal length primes like 85mm F1.4.. from the review itself, this voig seemed to be softer at wide open compared to samyang 35mm.. tongue.gif  i will try to find someone to try both of these samyang 35mm and voig 35mm before i buy any of them..
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That someone... or someplace... is Studio Zaloon. Go there - it's one of the few places I know that will have both!
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QUOTE(NutZ748 @ Dec 22 2014, 09:19 PM)
Around 6k+ for the body, 55 1.8 and LA-EA3 (I owned the 85 since my previous A65), tomorrow is going to increase the damage XD

Sample pic with the 85... It is FANTASTIC combination with FF, quite sharp wide-open, Only problem is the CA.
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Thanks for the compliment  biggrin.gif The strap is actually a very very old strap(older than me!) from a Yashica Electro 35 rangefinder which happens to fit very well on the A7. I dont like the original strap by sony, didnt even touch it since I bought the A7
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EH!.. that yashica i also got!!! let me go korek that strap.. hahahaa

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That someone... or someplace... is Studio Zaloon. Go there - it's one of the few places I know that will have both!
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sure... will go.. hahahaa... did u try 16-35 F4 for FE E-mount?
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EH!.. that yashica i also got!!! let me go korek that strap.. hahahaa
sure... will go.. hahahaa... did u try 16-35 F4 for FE E-mount?
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LOL go for it!!! it looks so good on A7! biggrin.gif
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I know image sharpness is referring to resolution of more than 1,800 lines per inch

Is there a online software/website where we can upload a photo and check if it is sharp or not?

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EH!.. that yashica i also got!!! let me go korek that strap.. hahahaa
sure... will go.. hahahaa... did u try 16-35 F4 for FE E-mount?
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I didn't try at all, even though I've seen it a few times. I am honestly not interested in that lens because:
1) Most of my stuff is still in A-mount
2) I have the Sigma 12-24mm F4.5-5.6 EX DG already which is much wider
3) My A-mount 24mm F2.0 Zeiss already covers this, and I have a E-mount 16mm F2.8 with the rear baffle removed so it becomes full-frame but with vignetting
4) If I really wanted a wide-angle FE Zeiss I'd wait for the FE-mount 28mm F2.0 (or use the E-mount 20mm F2.8 pancake, but not enough resolution when in APS-C mode on my A7S)
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QUOTE(albnok @ Dec 22 2014, 10:42 PM)
I didn't try at all, even though I've seen it a few times. I am honestly not interested in that lens because:
1) Most of my stuff is still in A-mount
2) I have the Sigma 12-24mm F4.5-5.6 EX DG already which is much wider
3) My A-mount 24mm F2.0 Zeiss already covers this, and I have a E-mount 16mm F2.8 with the rear baffle removed so it becomes full-frame but with vignetting
4) If I really wanted a wide-angle FE Zeiss I'd wait for the FE-mount 28mm F2.0 (or use the E-mount 20mm F2.8 pancake, but not enough resolution when in APS-C mode on my A7S)
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Wow the 16mm 2.8 works with FF with the baffle removed?! how is the image quality?
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QUOTE(NutZ748 @ Dec 22 2014, 09:51 PM)
LOL go for it!!! it looks so good on A7!  biggrin.gif
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my old strap looked fragile.. later putus if i attach my F42 flashgun to my a7.. XD..

ordered this instead..

http://storks.co/shop/product/vintage-doub...esh-neck-strap/

Btw.. Which kind of adapter can i use to mount my samyang 8mm fisheye A-mount to my A7? Any cheapo adapter without electronic parts?

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Dec 22 2014, 05:10 PM)
SAL35F18 and SAL85F28?
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then f1.8 is wasted? unsure.gif
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It depends on what you want. But having the option to go 1.8 is a plus if you want more bokeh
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QUOTE(nixonyang @ Dec 23 2014, 10:11 AM)
It depends on what you want. But having the option to go 1.8 is a plus if you want more bokeh
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not bokeh only but more light... nod.gif
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Dec 23 2014, 06:42 AM)
my old strap looked fragile.. later putus if i attach my F42 flashgun to my a7.. XD..

ordered this instead..

http://storks.co/shop/product/vintage-doub...esh-neck-strap/

Btw.. Which kind of adapter can i use to mount my samyang 8mm fisheye A-mount to my A7? Any cheapo adapter without electronic parts?
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Haha nice also...
I use LAEA-3 but I heard you can get EA-1 and remove the baffle and still works
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Dec 23 2014, 09:16 AM)
well, a sharp image doesn't mean it is a good one and vise versa tongue.gif don't be so nitpicking on sharpness, it won't add too much more value to a picture and can be fixed with PP a lot of the time.
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QUOTE(nixonyang @ Dec 23 2014, 10:11 AM)
It depends on what you want. But having the option to go 1.8 is a plus if you want more bokeh
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not bokeh only but more light... nod.gif
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Thanks everyone smile.gif

- Reason I ask : It would be more pleasing to have a sharp image, no?

- I read up about this yesterday and many people suggest a tripod as a start. OK

- I found a website which calculate EV (exposure value) - http://www.endoflow.com/exposure/

Let’s say Im using SEL 35mm f1.8, set at f2.8, 1/60s & ISO 100. The result is EV=9

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So it tells me “Landscapes, city skylines 10 minutes after sunset. Neon lights, spotlighted subjects”

These are the situation for these setting?


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- I read up about this yesterday and many people suggest a tripod as a start. OK


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Forget the tripod part.. just go and learn how to steady your shots with proper technique.. why frustrate your mobility ? You must develop steady enough handhold shots down to 1sec! or at lest 0.5 sec.. on 50mm full manual lens - otherwise you will continue to be slave to the technology.. This are traditional benchmarks from the old school and it is still valid if you want to enjoy using manual lens. These days, it cost you nothing to learn and acquire this skill except our patience and time.

There are plenty of tips out there to show and tell.. experiment find your best way..

The only time you really need tripod is when shooting macro or using long tele photo lens beyond 135mm- Full Frame.

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QUOTE(bunnykiwie @ Dec 23 2014, 10:41 AM)
Thanks everyone smile.gif

- Reason I ask : It would be more pleasing to have a sharp image, no?

- I read up about this yesterday and many people suggest a tripod as a start. OK

- I found a website which calculate EV (exposure value) - http://www.endoflow.com/exposure/

Let’s say Im using SEL 35mm f1.8, set at f2.8, 1/60s & ISO 100. The result is EV=9

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So it tells me “Landscapes, city skylines 10 minutes after sunset. Neon lights, spotlighted subjects”

These are the situation for these setting?
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I cant answer this one, too technical rclxub.gif Just trial and error for me
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QUOTE(bunnykiwie @ Dec 22 2014, 10:34 PM)
thanx smile.gif

Another question:

then f1.8 is wasted? unsure.gif
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my 35mm f1.8 only working if shoot closed up portrait

Any thing more than half body need switch to F2.8 if want nice sharp eyes
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QUOTE(bunnykiwie @ Dec 23 2014, 10:41 AM)
Thanks everyone smile.gif

- Reason I ask : It would be more pleasing to have a sharp image, no?

- I read up about this yesterday and many people suggest a tripod as a start. OK

- I found a website which calculate EV (exposure value) - http://www.endoflow.com/exposure/

Let’s say Im using SEL 35mm f1.8, set at f2.8, 1/60s & ISO 100. The result is EV=9

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So it tells me “Landscapes, city skylines 10 minutes after sunset. Neon lights, spotlighted subjects”

These are the situation for these setting?
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who actually shoot with this kind of procedure anyways tongue.gif

imagine you have to redo all these steps everytime you take a picture, it would be time wasting only. our camera has quite accurate metering system already, just go out and try taking pictures. too dark, dial in +ev. too light, dial in -ev, it's that simple.
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QUOTE(ChinWY @ Dec 23 2014, 11:21 AM)
Forget the tripod part.. just go and learn how to steady your shots with proper technique.. why frustrate your mobility ?  You must develop steady enough handhold shots down to 1sec!  or at lest 0.5 sec.. on 50mm full manual lens -  otherwise you will continue to be slave to the technology.. This are traditional benchmarks from the old school and it is still valid if you want to enjoy using manual lens.  These days, it cost you nothing to learn and acquire this skill except our patience and time.

There are plenty of tips out there to show and tell.. experiment find your best way..

The only time you really need tripod is when shooting macro or using long tele photo lens beyond 135mm- Full Frame.
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Not true not true... You need tripod for long exposure shots like light trail, flowing water etc. Don't tell me you're going to handhold 15 or 30s shots biggrin.gif

QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Dec 23 2014, 11:48 AM)
who actually shoot with this kind of procedure anyways tongue.gif

imagine you have to redo all these steps everytime you take a picture, it would be time wasting only. our camera has quite accurate metering system already, just go out and try taking pictures. too dark, dial in +ev. too light, dial in -ev, it's that simple.
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biggrin.gif Trial and error FTW!!

Agree on the metering part but exposure comp not working in manual mode with Auto ISO. Too bad. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Dec 23 2014, 04:58 PM)
Not true not true... You need tripod for long exposure shots like light trail, flowing water etc. Don't tell me you're going to handhold 15 or 30s shots biggrin.gif

Agree if you are doing long exposure. I should have been more explicit is stating my opinion.. doh.gif

There are many occasions where tripod is not at hand and you need that shot even with onboard stabilizers. Best to master the skill and have that advantage .. othwise the A7s can do the job too.. with its insane ISO capability. drool.gif

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QUOTE(bunnykiwie @ Dec 23 2014, 10:41 AM)
Thanks everyone smile.gif

- Reason I ask : It would be more pleasing to have a sharp image, no?

- I read up about this yesterday and many people suggest a tripod as a start. OK

- I found a website which calculate EV (exposure value) - http://www.endoflow.com/exposure/

Let’s say Im using SEL 35mm f1.8, set at f2.8, 1/60s & ISO 100. The result is EV=9

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So it tells me “Landscapes, city skylines 10 minutes after sunset. Neon lights, spotlighted subjects”

These are the situation for these setting?
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Those are like for manual settings using manual film camera with no metering system so you got to guess the Aperture/iso/shutter speed combination to get the optimum exposure. You don't need to stuff your head with such technicalities at this day of age with advanced digital cameras with semi automatic controls with advanced metering systems. Also especially if you're a newbie tongue.gif

Those rules like sunny f/16 rule bla bla bla.

Actually even with full manual mode, you just need to check the exposure meter, just make sure it's around 0 for 'optmimum" exposure.

For me, my setup is simple.

For a night landscape, it's always f/8 or f/11 depending on how much depth of field you require. ISO will always be at the lowest, that is 100.

For light trail, go for smaller aperture to achieve longer shutter speed.

Thats it.
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Just for curiosity .. will ISO 100 really produce better image quality? with film days yes on most account .. but what I read is most new digital camera sensors today fair better at ISO400. Anyone to enlighten? I think the buzz word is Native ISO

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QUOTE(ChinWY @ Dec 23 2014, 12:33 PM)
Just for curiosity .. will ISO 100 really produce better image quality?  with film days yes on most account .. but what I read is most new digital camera sensors today fair better at ISO400.  Anyone to enlighten?  I think the buzz word is Native ISO
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sure it will be best if you can shoot at ISO100 or lower to produce a noise free image.
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QUOTE(ChinWY @ Dec 23 2014, 11:21 AM)
Forget the tripod part.. just go and learn how to steady your shots with proper technique.. why frustrate your mobility ?  You must develop steady enough handhold shots down to 1sec!  or at lest 0.5 sec.. on 50mm full manual lens -  otherwise you will continue to be slave to the technology.. This are traditional benchmarks from the old school and it is still valid if you want to enjoy using manual lens.  These days, it cost you nothing to learn and acquire this skill except our patience and time.

There are plenty of tips out there to show and tell.. experiment find your best way..

The only time you really need tripod is when shooting macro or using long tele photo lens beyond 135mm- Full Frame.
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OK, im learning to grasp the camera well (close to body, palm support etc)

But the PZ 1650mm is too short & A6000 quite small to hold and feels awkward laugh.gif

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About speed, the "rule of thumb" that I learned is : reciprocal of the focal length

So if 35mm, I should use at least 1/60s

This pic was taken with 35mm ƒ/1.8 1/10s (ISO800)

Is this OK? unsure.gif

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Actually even with full manual mode, you just need to check the exposure meter, just make sure it's around 0 for 'optmimum" exposure.

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If i remember correctly, I had a blinking EV -2.0 at the bottom bar

I checked the EV Compensation is at "0.0"

So I need to dial up +2.0 to compensate

Thats what u mean?

(if i remember correctly, the blinking think was still there or the image wasnt improved much. I will try again tonight)

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Wow the 16mm 2.8 works with FF with the baffle removed?! how is the image quality?
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Not true not true... You need tripod for long exposure shots like light trail, flowing water etc. Don't tell me you're going to handhold 15 or 30s shots biggrin.gif
biggrin.gif Trial and error FTW!!

Agree on the metering part but exposure comp not working in manual mode with Auto ISO. Too bad. biggrin.gif
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Not sure about the A6000, but the A7/R/S has an EV dial that works in manual mode with Auto ISO. You might be able to adjust EV in say Aperture Priority then switch back to Manual Exposure and see if it affects Auto ISO.
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QUOTE(bunnykiwie @ Dec 23 2014, 01:06 PM)
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OK, im learning to grasp the camera well (close to body, palm support etc)

But the PZ 1650mm is too short & A6000 quite small to hold and feels awkward laugh.gif

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About speed, the "rule of thumb" that I learned is : reciprocal of the focal length

So if 35mm, I should use at least 1/60s

This pic was taken with 35mm ƒ/1.8 1/10s (ISO800)

Is this OK? unsure.gif

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so far my success try on F1.8 still fail.. but will try against when there is chance

this one i think the only few pic i found in my album that had f1.8 proper focused

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QUOTE(ChinWY @ Dec 23 2014, 12:33 PM)
Just for curiosity .. will ISO 100 really produce better image quality?  with film days yes on most account .. but what I read is most new digital camera sensors today fair better at ISO400.  Anyone to enlighten?  I think the buzz word is Native ISO
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Yes, there is a Native ISO.

Shooting at a lower ISO than native will mean you lose dynamic range.

Shooting at a higher ISO is just shooting at native ISO but with underexposure and gain applied. (Shooting at lower than native is also overexposure!)

There is also Native WB (look up UniWB).
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QUOTE(ChinWY @ Dec 23 2014, 12:33 PM)
Just for curiosity .. will ISO 100 really produce better image quality?  with film days yes on most account .. but what I read is most new digital camera sensors today fair better at ISO400.  Anyone to enlighten?  I think the buzz word is Native ISO
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Exactly... that said, "native iso" varies from sensor to sensor. For the A6k I think it's either 200 or 400, not sure. For the A7, I dunno.

As for tripods I don't bother anymore, due to my mostly mobile style of shooting, as I normally shoot on travels and I walk around A LOT. Even the smallest tripods are an unnecessary burden.

What I *do* use is this:

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The Hakuba sandbag wrap cover thingy. Got it in Japan for about RM15-20? Stabilises your shots on just about any surface or thing (wall, railing, telecom junction boxes). I could get away with anything from 2secs to up to 30secs with just this thing, and it fits in my cargo pants pocket.

I mean, it's so good I bought two... and now I regret not buying more.

Here's an example of a 5 sec exposure with my A6k on a railing with the Hakuba sandie:

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BUT, to get things nice and crisp you have to be properly setup for long exposures ler.

OSS/SS must be turned OFF (YES, for supported shots it MUST be OFF - OSS compensates for handheld shakes) and the camera must be on the 2sec timer setting to minimise shake - even IF you have a remote.

Thankfully the A6k (or the A7 family or any other mirrorless cams for that matter) doesn't have a mirror so we don't need to worry about mirror slap and MLU.

And native ISO if you *can*... sometimes you just need to go down to 100 simply because your ND filter is just not dark enough to get the proper shutter speed, and shooting at f22 will crap out sharpness due to diffraction... which is why smaller apertures are not always the answer and why you actually *need* an ND for long exposures so that you can stay around the f8-f16 sharpness sweet spot.

Even if you don't do a lot of long exposures, the Hakuba sandie (or any other type of bean/sandbag) is useful simply to steady your shots for group shots or other normal stuff. It does need something to be mounted on, however, but at least it does add the bulk of a tripod to your gear pack.. nor does it add the hassle of actually having to set up that tripod before using it.

Not sure if anything similar is available locally though. Online we do have stuff like "The Pod"... but those are at least RM150 a pop.

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QUOTE(bunnykiwie @ Dec 23 2014, 01:06 PM)
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OK, im learning to grasp the camera well (close to body, palm support etc)

But the PZ 1650mm is too short & A6000 quite small to hold and feels awkward laugh.gif

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About speed, the "rule of thumb" that I learned is : reciprocal of the focal length

So if 35mm, I should use at least 1/60s

This pic was taken with 35mm ƒ/1.8 1/10s (ISO800)

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Just get a tripod if you can do better with it and don't mind the weight. Don't care what ppl say. tongue.gif Getting the shot you want is the most important point. Having the tool is one thing, knowing how to use the tool is another thing. If this tool helps, why not?? brows.gif Buy.... Buy... Buyyyyyyyy

biggrin.gif But your lens (assume that is the Sel35f18) has OSS inside. So you can go slower than the calculated speed.

QUOTE(albnok @ Dec 23 2014, 01:18 PM)
Not sure about the A6000, but the A7/R/S has an EV dial that works in manual mode with Auto ISO. You might be able to adjust EV in say Aperture Priority then switch back to Manual Exposure and see if it affects Auto ISO.
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My bad, just tested. Yes it works for Auto iso in manual mode. Just that in manual mode, my top dial is controlling the aperture while the jog dial is controlling SS. I set the "down" button to something else too so I have to dig into function menu to change exp. Comp.

I'm mostly shooting manual now as Aperture priority won't really work the way i want. Sometimes instead of pushing iso up, the camera chooses to reduce the shutter speed. Not sure what's the algorithm behind.

I have my top dial to change exp comp in both S and A mode. Was using those modes earlier but now Manual. Don't have wide lens yet so changing aperture from 3.5 or 5.6 up to say 22 doesn't really give a different image when everything is far away from camera. That's why most of the time only stuck to widest aperture, only stop down when needed.

Maybe am a little control freak. I better stay with M biggrin.gif
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About holding the A6k, I ended up not even worrying about grip due to how tiny it is.

I normally just use it one handed like a rangefinder/PnS, and shooting in bursts of 3-5 to make sure I get a sharp snap... Though going back through my shots to delete the unsharp ones afterwards can be quite a PITA lol.

Plus I shoot RAW simply because if the camera screws up the exposure, I'll have better chances of saving the shot from a RAW than I'll do with a JPG. Unfortunately, bursts and RAW means I go through memory cards like only God knows lol.

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Just get a tripod if you can do better with it and don't mind the weight. Don't care what ppl say. tongue.gif Getting the shot you want is the most important point. Having the tool is one thing, knowing how to use the tool is another thing. If this tool helps, why not?? brows.gif Buy.... Buy... Buyyyyyyyy

biggrin.gif But your lens (assume that is the Sel35f18) has OSS inside. So you can go slower than the calculated speed.
My bad, just tested. Yes it works for Auto iso in manual mode. Just that in manual mode, my top dial is controlling the aperture while the jog dial is controlling SS. I set the "down" button to something else too so I have to dig into function menu to change exp. Comp.

I'm mostly shooting manual now as Aperture priority won't really work the way i want. Sometimes instead of pushing iso up, the camera chooses to reduce the shutter speed. Not sure what's the algorithm behind.

I have my top dial to change exp comp in both S and A mode. Was using those modes earlier but now Manual. Don't have wide lens yet so changing aperture from 3.5 or 5.6 up to say 22 doesn't really give a different image when everything is far away from camera. That's why most of the time only stuck to widest aperture, only stop down when needed.

Maybe am a little control freak. I better stay with M biggrin.gif
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The camera chooses shutter speed this way:

Focal length * crop factor = 1/shutter speed

So if you are shooting at 35mm, 35mm * 1.5x = 52.5 = 1/52.5s where the nearest is 1/60s.

If you use flash, it will not be slower than 1/60s and not faster than the flash sync speed (e.g. 1/160s).

The ISO is assumed to be at the lowest Auto ISO will allow e.g. 200. Then the aperture is adjusted so the shutter speed is achieved e.g. F5.6.

If it is still too dark, then only will the camera increase ISO. So you don't have a case of the camera jumping to ISO1600 first then setting the aperture to F22.
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QUOTE(bunnykiwie @ Dec 23 2014, 01:06 PM)
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OK, im learning to grasp the camera well (close to body, palm support etc)

But the PZ 1650mm is too short & A6000 quite small to hold and feels awkward laugh.gif

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About speed, the "rule of thumb" that I learned is : reciprocal of the focal length

So if 35mm, I should use at least 1/60s

This pic was taken with 35mm ƒ/1.8 1/10s (ISO800)

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looks fine to me, but I didn't zoom in to view the full size though. the rule of thumb is like a guideline, some can get steady pictures at even slower shutter speed, but some still fail to get sharp shots even when followed the rule.

the ability of person to hold a camera steadily varies for every picture. even you stand at the same spot, aiming at the same subject, take 10 shots in a interval of 5 seconds or something, you will realize you might get different results. the most common tips for getting a steady posture involve holding our breath, leaning on a wall/ pole or others to prevent body shaking, holding the camera with both hands, firing the shutter gently and standing straight with hands close to our chest. smile.gif

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QUOTE(bunnykiwie @ Dec 23 2014, 01:06 PM)
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OK, im learning to grasp the camera well (close to body, palm support etc)

But the PZ 1650mm is too short & A6000 quite small to hold and feels awkward laugh.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


About speed, the "rule of thumb" that I learned is : reciprocal of the focal length

So if 35mm, I should use at least 1/60s

This pic was taken with 35mm ƒ/1.8 1/10s (ISO800)

Is this OK? unsure.gif

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Can't really have that DSLR grip when handling the A6000 with the kit lens but I have no issues with it. Honestly, the kit lens is a real gem as it's a good lens and it's really compact which is the entire point of getting a mirror less camera. Compare that to a 16-70 Zeiss which is like a behemoth lol.

That shutter speed rule of thumb varies from person to person. Just need to find what shutter speed you're most comfortable using. But keep in mind, it's always better to have a noisier shot that a blur one smile.gif

Haha it's good if you can handhold 1/10 s at 35 mm. Not many are able to do that! But of course the OSS really helps a lot! It's like 3 stops of image stabilisation I in!

QUOTE(bunnykiwie @ Dec 23 2014, 01:13 PM)
If i remember correctly, I had a blinking EV -2.0 at the bottom bar

I checked the EV Compensation is at "0.0"

So I need to dial up +2.0 to compensate

Thats what u mean?

(if i remember correctly, the blinking think was still there or the image wasnt improved much. I will try again tonight)
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Sorry I was mistaken as I thought the manual mode would have an exposure meter like in DSLRs but it's similar.

When you EV shows a -2.0 value means that you are basically 2 stops darker than optimum exposure as determined by the camera. Usually just need to maintain it at zero. Depending on situations, you might find it better to shoot at +0.3 or +0.7 for example.

I'm usually on +0.3 when taking pictures under day light as the camera tend to underexposed by a bit.
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Can't really have that DSLR grip when handling the A6000 with the kit lens but I have no issues with it. Honestly, the kit lens is a real gem as it's a good lens and it's really compact which is the entire point of getting a mirror less camera. Compare that to a 16-70 Zeiss which is like a behemoth lol.

That shutter speed rule of thumb varies from person to person. Just need to find what shutter speed you're most comfortable using.  But keep in mind, it's always better to have a noisier shot that a blur one smile.gif

Haha it's good if you can handhold 1/10 s at 35 mm. Not many are able to do that! But of course the OSS really helps a lot! It's like 3 stops of image stabilisation I in!
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TBH, the *ability* to shoot in low light at low shutter speeds thanks to OSS is actually also a curse if you shoot people. Unless they're standing still, anything below 1/60 (or 1/30 if youre lucky) will pretty much blur the people involved... which can be a royal pain when you actually don't want them to blur out.

In which case your only option is to increase the aperture width (not practical most of the time coz of the DOF becoming paper thin), increase ISO (which is the reason people get the A7s) or getting a flash (which comes with its own bag of snakes to tame).

If you're just shooting the scene/scenery itself or just like blurring people out for the fun of it like me it's a different story however... Though the SEL35 isn't the best focal length for scene shooting IMHO, the Sig19, SEL20, SEL16 and the superlative SEL24Z is much better for that.

The kitty is fine though, FL wise, but for snapshots it takes its sweet time to turn on and extend so you might miss your moment. Otherwise it's a pretty okay kitty, all things considered... especially considering the teeny weeny size. I'm just not a fan of the slow start up and the distortion (which sometimes results in slightly weird stretched out corners with lens correction applied).

And yes, lenses being almost comically huge on the tiny A6k is the reason why I'm sticking to primes for now. It's such a waste of its tiny body to stick a huge lens in front of it...

However, I wouldn't say the 1670Z is *that* big. You should see the A6k with the SEL16105G, the *old* SEL18200 or the even huger 70200G mounted on it lol.

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QUOTE(albnok @ Dec 23 2014, 05:10 PM)
The camera chooses shutter speed this way:

Focal length * crop factor = 1/shutter speed

So if you are shooting at 35mm, 35mm * 1.5x = 52.5 = 1/52.5s where the nearest is 1/60s.

If you use flash, it will not be slower than 1/60s and not faster than the flash sync speed (e.g. 1/160s).

The ISO is assumed to be at the lowest Auto ISO will allow e.g. 200. Then the aperture is adjusted so the shutter speed is achieved e.g. F5.6.

If it is still too dark, then only will the camera increase ISO. So you don't have a case of the camera jumping to ISO1600 first then setting the aperture to F22.
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biggrin.gif Never really look at those formula. New thing learnt but I doubt I will every calculate it tongue.gif Just trial and error then soon I will know at what focal length, what shutter speed should I use to get sharp images or just preview each time after a shot (which is what we usually do biggrin.gif ).

hmm.gif Flash... Another field to explore. Even the built-in flash... Don't even know how to control when I'm in Manual mode. Will explore it later.

The camera won't set it to F22 la coz that will be darker tongue.gif

QUOTE(Eiraku @ Dec 23 2014, 07:02 PM)
TBH, the *ability* to shoot in low light at low shutter speeds thanks to OSS is actually also a curse if you shoot people. Unless they're standing still, anything below 1/60 (or 1/30 if youre lucky) will pretty much blur the people involved... which can be a royal pain when you actually don't want them to blur out.

In which case your only option is to increase the aperture width (not practical most of the time coz of the DOF becoming paper thin), increase ISO (which is the reason people get the A7s) or getting a flash (which comes with its own bag of snakes to tame).

If you're just shooting the scene/scenery itself or just like blurring people out for the fun of it like me it's a different story however... Though the SEL35 isn't the best focal length for scene shooting IMHO, the Sig19, SEL20, SEL16 and the superlative SEL24Z is much better for that.

The kitty is fine though, FL wise, but for snapshots it takes its sweet time to turn on and extend so you might miss your moment. Otherwise it's a pretty okay kitty, all things considered... especially considering the teeny weeny size. I'm just not a fan of the slow start up and the distortion (which sometimes results in slightly weird stretched out corners with lens correction applied).

And yes, lenses being almost comically huge on the tiny A6k is the reason why I'm sticking to primes for now. It's such a waste of its tiny body to stick a huge lens in front of it...

However, I wouldn't say the 1670Z is *that* big. You should see the A6k with the SEL16105G, the *old* SEL18200 or the even huger 70200G mounted on it lol.
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Talking about OSS... Do I actually need to turn it off while doing long exposure? I have been doing it with that ON. Maybe I should try out someday and see the difference.

biggrin.gif yeah can't agree more that the 1650 is a piece of gem. Also agree on the slow powering up part. Distortion wise still ok, not so visible for me.

I probably won't get another zoom lens other than the Kit Lens. Just legacy lenses and native prime lenses.


Also feel like doing macro but to make macro easier (for bugs that kind of thing), have to get a longer macro lens like 100mm or more. Sony hasn't got one lens for that though. Just the 30mm F3.5 sad.gif



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I just get a Sony A57 from my bro last few days. Here's the photo I took today, hope you guys can give me some comment

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Newbie reporting in!
Hello everyone!
I just get a Sony A57 from my bro last few days. Here's the photo I took today, hope you guys can give me some comment

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Thanks in advance... ^^
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Being honest,

1st photo ; if your subject is placed in more interesting perspective would make photo look different, i can see puddle of water and grass?

2nd photo ; not mistaken its misfocused.

3rd photo ; the color ran too greenish imho.
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Being honest,

1st photo ; if your subject is placed in more interesting perspective would make photo look different, i can see puddle of water and grass?

2nd photo ; not mistaken its misfocused.

3rd photo ; the color ran too greenish imho.
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QUOTE(weikent @ Dec 23 2014, 11:08 PM)
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I just get a Sony A57 from my bro last few days. Here's the photo I took today, hope you guys can give me some comment

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1. good usage of reflection of subject...

2.i think the t-rex is abit OOF...care to upload the coloured version?

3.nothing much to comment...more like a snapshot to me...

we all been through the learning stage...dont give up ya bro.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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1. good usage of reflection of subject...

2.i think the t-rex is abit OOF...care to upload the coloured version?

3.nothing much to comment...more like a snapshot to me...

we all been through the learning stage...dont give up ya bro.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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of course i wont... =)
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Dec 23 2014, 07:02 PM)
TBH, the *ability* to shoot in low light at low shutter speeds thanks to OSS is actually also a curse if you shoot people. Unless they're standing still, anything below 1/60 (or 1/30 if youre lucky) will pretty much blur the people involved... which can be a royal pain when you actually don't want them to blur out.
why is it a curse? at least you GET TO SHOOT something, isn't it? smile.gif

It's just not meant for moving subjects but at least you can now have a decently sharp scenery with motion trail on objects that are moving. The photo will have a different impact.

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Dec 24 2014, 08:49 PM)
Nice pic you got there. What lens were you using? F value?
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The first is with Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8
Second and third is with Sigma 30mm f/2.8 EX DN

Aperture is f11 for the first, and f2.8 for those that follows.
All taken with a6000.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 25 2014, 12:34 PM)
why is it a curse? at least you GET TO SHOOT something, isn't it? smile.gif

It's just not meant for moving subjects but at least you can now have a decently sharp scenery with motion trail on objects that are moving. The photo will have a different impact.
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Ehem... "... a curse *IF* you shoot people... ... a royal pain when you *don't want* them to blur out..."

I meant that when you *intend* to get people in the scene all sharp lar...

Most people, especially when they start out, expect OSS to get EVERYTHING (moving people included) all sharp for them at low light... without considering the relationship between shutter speed and movement (and even AF, but that's nothing the OSS can help with already).

In short, OSS's 2-3 stop advantage is not a golden bullet. It helps, but there's more stuff to consider than that. It becomes a *curse* when you start thinking it is... or when you forget that it isn't.

Like I also said... if you want people to blur out or if you wanna get motion trails *on purpose* for artistic purposes or otherwise than its a different story lah...

Though I have found that the bottom end of hand holding *with* OSS (around 1/10-1/5 with the SEL35, depending on how shaky your hands are) is usually only sufficient to blur movement out by a little bit - which is again fine if that's what your intended effect is.

Well, IMHO anyway... TBH this actually holds true for most mechanical (and software) stabilisation systems as well, not just OSS.

Oh, and merry Christmas everyone.

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Dec 25 2014, 06:24 PM)
Ehem... "... a curse *IF* you shoot people... ... a royal pain when you *don't want* them to blur out..."

I meant that when you *intend* to get people in the scene all sharp lar...
but it's still not a curse what, that one is your setting wrong.

smile.gif i would liken "curse" to something like the lens is so sharp, it's making you do more work when it comes to post-processing because it's too detailed.
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And here's one with the Tamron 200-400mm F5.6. This lens has its focus gear stripped so it is manual focus. That's why I am not using the LA-EA4 but the full-frame modified (rear baffle removed) LA-EA1.
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ahpingko here's a picture of the A7S with LA-EA1 and a Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus. I took this a while back, and it is quite similiar to the Samyang 35mm F1.4 UMC in size.

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And here's one with the Tamron 200-400mm F5.6. This lens has its focus gear stripped so it is manual focus. That's why I am not using the LA-EA4 but the full-frame modified (rear baffle removed) LA-EA1.
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btw, can i still use my samyang 8mm on my a7? without any vignet? it seemed like even if shaved the hood, there will be round vignet also..
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The first is with Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8
Second and third is with Sigma 30mm f/2.8 EX DN

Aperture is f11 for the first, and f2.8 for those that follows.
All taken with a6000.
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Must say it's really nicely taken. Btw, you happen to know when does the paddy in green? I forgot when is the harvest month. doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 26 2014, 12:48 AM)
but it's still not a curse what, that one is your setting wrong.

smile.gif i would liken "curse" to something like the lens is so sharp, it's making you do more work when it comes to post-processing because it's too detailed.
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Dec 26 2014, 02:40 AM)

btw, can i still use my samyang 8mm on my a7? without any vignet? it seemed like even if shaved the hood, there will be round vignet also..
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you are shaving off the wrong end.. try the rear side.. not the front side.. see what you can remove any thing to get a bigger opening at the back.. that is what they did to the SEL16
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Dec 25 2014, 10:10 PM)
Must say it's really nicely taken. Btw, you happen to know when does the paddy in green? I forgot when is the harvest month. doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(ChinWY @ Dec 25 2014, 11:51 PM)
you are shaving off the wrong end.. try the rear side.. not the front side.. see what you can remove any thing to get a bigger opening at the back.. that is what they did to the SEL16
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I did that to my SEL16F28. However, looking at the Samyang front-shave videos, it looks like from the back, there isn't anything you can do because it comes out through a tiny tube at the back. My Peleng 8mm also looks like that - tiny rear optics. (I don't have the Samyang 8mm.)
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so big..lol.. hahaha... my old lenses still yet to sell out... already lelong-ed them.. but seemed like very little people looking for A-mount already.. i neeed some cash to get lens for my A7!!..

btw, can i still use my samyang 8mm on my a7? without any vignet? it seemed like even if shaved the hood, there will be round vignet also..
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Well you can either:
1) Use APS-C mode and leave it unshaved
2) Shave it and use on the A7. In any RAW processor program, look under the Distortion sliders for a Defish/Fisheye option. You can then defish until the black part goes away. It will probably be wider than on APS-C!

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Must say it's really nicely taken. Btw, you happen to know when does the paddy in green? I forgot when is the harvest month. doh.gif doh.gif
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bro, i guess you're manager of camera's company, right? i have a question.
a sealed box lenses unit is sealed with white colour sticker with sony logo, instead of silver sticker, right?
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bro, i guess you're manager of camera's company, right? i have a question.
a sealed box lenses unit is sealed with white colour sticker with sony logo, instead of silver sticker, right?
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all sony lenses box is sealed with white sticker which preprinted with sony logo on the top and silver sticker with "serial number"
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Oh thank you so much for the information! wink.gif

QUOTE(ry.tan9119 @ Dec 26 2014, 02:38 AM)
bro, i guess you're manager of camera's company, right? i have a question.
a sealed box lenses unit is sealed with white colour sticker with sony logo, instead of silver sticker, right?
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Sorry bro, I'm not. Just a marketing person. I have no idea about the stickers thing. I'm working under a company that have 3 Sony outlets only. Technically, you need to ask someone that is actually working WITH Sony. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Dec 25 2014, 09:40 PM)
so big..lol.. hahaha... my old lenses still yet to sell out... already lelong-ed them.. but seemed like very little people looking for A-mount already.. i neeed some cash to get lens for my A7!!..

btw, can i still use my samyang 8mm on my a7? without any vignet? it seemed like even if shaved the hood, there will be round vignet also..
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a sealed box lenses unit is sealed with white colour sticker with sony logo, instead of silver sticker, right?
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I ordered camera and lens from sony Malaysia few weeks ago it is come with silver sticker and serial number on it. I do have one lens box with white sticker.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 25 2014, 07:48 PM)
but it's still not a curse what, that one is your setting wrong.

smile.gif i would liken "curse" to something like the lens is so sharp, it's making you do more work when it comes to post-processing because it's too detailed.
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Experience this few time so sharp that every imperfections of make up pop out when u zoom in.

Need used sand paper to smooth them up tongue.gif
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Does anybody keep their boxes for cameras/lenses/accessories?

I'm wondering because I do keep, but I am thinking of recycling them for those out of warranty since I don't intend to sell them. (I'll take out the important bits in the boxes.)
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QUOTE(albnok @ Dec 26 2014, 01:39 PM)
Does anybody keep their boxes for cameras/lenses/accessories?

I'm wondering because I do keep, but I am thinking of recycling them for those out of warranty since I don't intend to sell them. (I'll take out the important bits in the boxes.)
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yes i do. but i can't compare with you considering the vast amount of lenses and cameras you have biggrin.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 25 2014, 07:48 PM)
but it's still not a curse what, that one is your setting wrong.

smile.gif i would liken "curse" to something like the lens is so sharp, it's making you do more work when it comes to post-processing because it's too detailed.
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I'm actually in love with such a cursed lens... The old Tamron 90mm 72B Adaptall macro. Too sharp for portrait... too hard to focus for macro... biggrin.gif

But I STILL WANT ONE!

And boxes, yeah I keep em... if I buy first hand. Normally I buy second hand and they usually don't... which annoys me somewhat. So yeah, keeping boxes for second hand value is a good practice IMHO.

But, like bro zstan said, I don't have prolly even 1/3 of the lenses you have so I can't imagine how the boxes situation with you will be like.

That said, if you don't plan to sell em off, why keep the boxes?

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Does anybody keep their boxes for cameras/lenses/accessories?

I'm wondering because I do keep, but I am thinking of recycling them for those out of warranty since I don't intend to sell them. (I'll take out the important bits in the boxes.)
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I've kept all boxes of my every electronic purchases, its an addiction and satisfaction when looking at pile of them arranged nicely biggrin.gif
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Keep them, store it up some place in case you wish to sell off. If it takes up too much space then pack the contents into smaller packages and fold up the card board.
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If u wanna re-compose / re-align this pic, which line should I choose to make it in horizon ? Red or yellow ?
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Would like to get some opinions.

What bag should I search to fit and protect Sony A6000? Brand? Estimated price? can fit long zoom lens, flash n other accessories.
And can bring around to all places without much awkward looking bag.

Tqs
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@albnok, have u tested Minolta MD 50/1.4 on A7?? i am wondering if the MD mount will cause any vignetting on our e-mount..
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IMO, Red. Then the pillars also will look more vertical.
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Hi.

Would like to get some opinions.

What bag should I search to fit and protect Sony A6000? Brand? Estimated price? can fit long zoom lens, flash n other accessories.
And can bring around to all places without much awkward looking bag.

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Bag is very personal

go and search at camera shop and u will find something u like


U want this?

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Hi.

Would like to get some opinions.

What bag should I search to fit and protect Sony A6000? Brand? Estimated price? can fit long zoom lens, flash n other accessories.
And can bring around to all places without much awkward looking bag.

Tqs
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http://storks.co/shop/product/herringbone-...s-medium-black/
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I'm using Lowepro stuff. Fits my needs better without costing too much. I have the Versapack if I *need* to carry *everything* in one bag, and the Passport Sling III for normal less conspicuous everyday carry.

Unfortunately, Lowepro is sorta well known as a camera bag manufacturer, so it's kinda more prone to theft (but it's still much better that a bag that says "Nikon" or "Canon" or in our case, "Sony")... but the newer models have much less by the way of obvious logos so it's much less of a problem.

But yeah, bags are probably the most subjective part of owning a camera (next to straps lol). You really need to go test them to know if you like them.

Best place to do this IMHO is at either YL PJ or YL Pudu - they have a wide range of bags from many brands, including the very drool worthy Mindshift Rotation; and they don't mind you testing their stuff kaw kaw before buying.

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a sealed box lenses unit is sealed with white colour sticker with sony logo, instead of silver sticker, right?
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i believe everyone who use sony camera & lenses are familiar of it. i'm sure of there's white sticker with sony logo are sealed on top, or side of the box, meanwhile bottom of the box is sealed with silver sticker, which believed is pre-printed with serial number
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What bag should I search to fit and protect Sony A6000? Brand? Estimated price? can fit long zoom lens, flash n other accessories.
And can bring around to all places without much awkward looking bag.

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My Billingham biggrin.gif
It is quite spendy but never regretted!
nice looking, weatherproofing, very nice build quality, and it can fit all my stuff in 1 bag!
http://www.billingham.co.uk/hadley-pro.html
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Neither. I'd do this instead! (Yes, you can somewhat do this with Photoshop CS6 under Filter - Lens Correction - Custom - Transform.)


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QUOTE(sitescope @ Dec 26 2014, 04:52 PM)
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your photo - horizon. always go with the horizon.

this is a landscape photo, and landscape photos always have a straight horizon unless you want to depict that you're drunk or something.
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@albnok, have u tested Minolta MD 50/1.4 on A7?? i am wondering if the MD mount will cause any vignetting on our e-mount..
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Nope. I can't get the same vignetting result since my A7S is somehow better than the A7/A7R when it comes to vignetting with old lenses. Plus the only stuff I have is in A-mount and my only adapters are the LA-EA1 and LA-EA4. (Ironically, I have a Seagull 50mm F1.8 MD mount...)

And here's some pr0n!

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wow you power collector. all old goodies like A900 and A99 (ok this one not too old) are still around.
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Dang... I actually just realised have no idea where my old MD X570 went... I miss it now that I've seen your collection, Albnok...

Plus my FG went dead when I was in Japan a fortnight ago... Sigh.

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wow you power collector. all old goodies like A900 and A99 (ok this one not too old) are still around.
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This picture's theme was full-frame with 50mm lenses. There's more. biggrin.gif

I kept cameras based on the premise of having at least 1 backup for professional work. So the A900/A99 is one 24-megapixel pair. The A99/A7S is a video pair. The X300 is in the picture because it has a 50mm on it, and my Minolta Dynax 7, a A-mount film SLR, is not in the picture because my only 2 A-mount 50mm lenses are already on bodies. The NEX-5 is not in it because it's not full-frame, plus it got downgraded from being video backup since I made it shoot infrared. I also have an infrared camera backup, but that's another story...

Now the A900 really is for my unborn kids to look at, as I explain how it works, and they'll look at it in wonderment as we today look and wonder how rangefinders/TLRs/medium format backs work. The A99 will probably be a blip in camera history, too. The next leap should be liquid lenses!
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from my limited Sony product knowledge the A99 would be the best all-rounder. Coupled with dual card slot and weather seal.

I did some reading on A7 series weather protection, seems like it's quite limited in that aspect.
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Hi there.
I have a question.
I want to buy nex 6..but the guy
That wan to sell to me said he lost the cd inside.
This is my first time buying the nex 6.idk much bout it.
So.does this cd important?..can i still use the camera
and download whateva inside the cd somewhere else?
Thank you
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Minolta MD Rokkor-X 50mm F1.7
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Neither. I'd do this instead! (Yes, you can somewhat do this with Photoshop CS6 under Filter - Lens Correction - Custom - Transform.)
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QUOTE(shahrul09 @ Dec 27 2014, 03:44 PM)
Hi there.
I have a question.
I want to buy nex 6..but the guy
That wan to sell to me said he lost the cd inside.
This is my first time buying the nex 6.idk much bout it.
So.does this cd important?..can i still use the camera
and download whateva inside the cd somewhere else?
Thank you
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CD not important... normally they include a driver & pic software...
U can dload latest driver from their web & for software u can replace it with photoshop or lightroom...
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Thinking of getting myself a new lens in 3 months time. Hehe. Voigtlander 50mm f/1.4 this time :3

Anyone has this lens and using with a Sony A7 now? Poison me with pictures!
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Dec 28 2014, 01:19 AM)
Thinking of getting myself a new lens in 3 months time. Hehe. Voigtlander 50mm f/1.4 this time :3

Anyone has this lens and using with a Sony A7 now? Poison me with pictures!
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Did you mean the 50mm F1.1 or F1.5? At that price, the Mitakon/ZhongYi Speedmaster 50mm F0.95 Dark Knight Pro is brighter. Only downside is that it's not as small as the Voigtlanders.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 27 2014, 12:51 AM)
from my limited Sony product knowledge the A99 would be the best all-rounder. Coupled with dual card slot and weather seal.

I did some reading on A7 series weather protection, seems like it's quite limited in that aspect.
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Not sure if the A7S is any different than the A7/A7R in terms of protection, although the A7S has a metal mount while the A7/A7R don't. I have used the A7S in moderate to heavy rain for 20 minutes. After that the rear dial started jumping. (Thus making one shot at 1/1250s when I didn't need it!) 1.5 hours later though it seemed to be okay again. When I returned home I put it in the dry box.

I also brought my A99 out for one time I thought I'd need the 24 megapixels, and even on the street in daylight I was thinking I needed faster shutter speeds (I'm usually on Aperture Priority with Auto ISO 200-6400 on the A99). However on the A7S I can safely be on Manual Exposure, F4.0 1/160s, Auto ISO 200-409600 - 1/160s is fast enough that I'm unlikely to get blown highlights in daylight.)

I guess you could say the A99 is an all-rounder, though just not in the ISO aspect - but then, nobody else is near the A7S. The dual card slot thing is something I have to think hard on how to use. I've copied folders from one card to another, but this doesn't work once your second photographer is using a different system and shooting RAW only. (I didn't check if it would copy anyway even though it saw no pictures.) As for weather sealing - I guess I don't quite enjoy shooting in the rain for too long!

So by far my A7S is still my daily driver - and it will be for event coverage, too - with the A99 only for studio work. (Next time I get caught in the rain, I'll just disable the affected dial and save settings to the 1 or 2 memory settings slot on the mode dial - not memory card slot heh.)

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Dual-card slot is just for safety sake, just in case corruption. Not something critical unless you're doing work that can't be retaken and will affect your delivery.

As for weather seal I think it's more of a concern if you're frequently shooting at open air, perhaps like sports event. In any case, I'm not particularly concerned over weather seal as my EOS 350D had a full cup of orange juice spilled on it before and it's still alive today, I rinsed it with water and warm it up in my computer to remove the residue.

12MP is more than enough for most purpose, for me I only use full 18 - 24 MP on stuff that I find important, usually in RAW. Sometimes in JPG if I don't see the need to edit. Other than that I usually go for medium sized JPG for casual / non-critical photos.

Even for my goldfries site, I just use 8MP JPG for the product photos because my setup was fine tuned to have the photos work SOOC. Minor tuning if need to, upload to web also less than 2MP.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 28 2014, 02:08 AM)
Dual-card slot is just for safety sake, just in case corruption. Not something critical unless you're doing work that can't be retaken and will affect your delivery.

As for weather seal I think it's more of a concern if you're frequently shooting at open air, perhaps like sports event. In any case, I'm not particularly concerned over weather seal as my EOS 350D had a full cup of orange juice spilled on it before and it's still alive today, I rinsed it with water and warm it up in my computer to remove the residue.

12MP is more than enough for most purpose, for me I only use full 18 - 24 MP on stuff that I find important, usually in RAW. Sometimes in JPG if I don't see the need to edit. Other than that I usually go for medium sized JPG for casual / non-critical photos.

Even for my goldfries site, I just use 8MP JPG for the product photos because my setup was fine tuned to have the photos work SOOC. Minor tuning if need to, upload to web also less than 2MP.
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Ah, I see what you mean - writing the same thing to both cards. I have fortunately not had any corruption (but then I go for branded memory cards - not that it is completely riskproof but it's just not happened). I used to shoot weddings with another guy and we both had 2 cameras, 2 flashes (to swap when flash overheats or batteries die), and lenses that nearly overlap so if one lens breaks it is somewhat covered. I'll probably look at [writing to both cards] if I have to do this again, though I don't have any 2 SD cards that are exactly the same size so that bothers me if I want to do this.
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How I miss the ultra wide perspective of a UWA lens. For the look and the usability especially when you want to frame everything within a really tight spot!

I'll see if I have change to get either a Rokinon or a Samyang 12mm f/2.0 prime lens. Just about 1mm wider than my previous setup that is a Canon 60D (1.6x crop) with a 10-22
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LOL RAMES. KAWAN KU

Btw even at 0.95 you feel hard to focus ke ? Or focus peeking helps a lot already. I still get out of focus shot with my f/1.4 sad.gif dissapointed.

How much you got it for. Im always seeking for versatility. Want to keep things light for travel and all

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LOL RAMES. KAWAN KU

Btw even at 0.95 you feel hard to focus ke ? Or focus peeking helps a lot already. I still get out of focus shot with my f/1.4 sad.gif dissapointed.

How much you got it for. Im always seeking for versatility. Want to keep things light for travel and all
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http://famecherry.com/shop-with-us-2/essen...ter-50mm-f0-95/

Nope, not any harder than any F1.4 lens. Focus peaking isn't good enough for F1.4 lenses anyway (coming from my Samyang 35mm and 85mm F1.4 lenses.)

Protip for quick manual focus without relying on focus peaking or magnifying: Quickly turn from close focus to far focus and look for the "thick band of near-focus". Your actual focus point is in the middle of that thick band. (Even as I am writing this, I am testing to see and I'm surprising myself with 100% accuracy wide open! Or maybe it helped that I have just disabled focus peaking, a distraction that doesn't help me.)

Also, Rames approves of this lens!
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Notice raw image become darker after imported into lightroom (latest), did some findings found that we need to do some setup in order to match with sony camera settings. Anyone have this experience before and mind share your ideal setup/opinion?
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Not sure if the A7S is any different than the A7/A7R in terms of protection, although the A7S has a metal mount while the A7/A7R don't. I have used the A7S in moderate to heavy rain for 20 minutes. After that the rear dial started jumping. (Thus making one shot at 1/1250s when I didn't need it!) 1.5 hours later though it seemed to be okay again. When I returned home I put it in the dry box.

I also brought my A99 out for one time I thought I'd need the 24 megapixels, and even on the street in daylight I was thinking I needed faster shutter speeds (I'm usually on Aperture Priority with Auto ISO 200-6400 on the A99). However on the A7S I can safely be on Manual Exposure, F4.0 1/160s, Auto ISO 200-409600 - 1/160s is fast enough that I'm unlikely to get blown highlights in daylight.)

I guess you could say the A99 is an all-rounder, though just not in the ISO aspect - but then, nobody else is near the A7S. The dual card slot thing is something I have to think hard on how to use. I've copied folders from one card to another, but this doesn't work once your second photographer is using a different system and shooting RAW only. (I didn't check if it would copy anyway even though it saw no pictures.) As for weather sealing - I guess I don't quite enjoy shooting in the rain for too long!

So by far my A7S is still my daily driver - and it will be for event coverage, too - with the A99 only for studio work. (Next time I get caught in the rain, I'll just disable the affected dial and save settings to the 1 or 2 memory settings slot on the mode dial - not memory card slot heh.)
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What is min shutter speed to make crowd people "gone" from night landscape pic ?
3 mins bulb ?
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What is min shutter speed to make crowd people "gone" from night landscape pic ?
3 mins bulb ?
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I think depends on the situation right. If these people all well lit by the street light I think will be quite hard to take a photo with them disappearing from the photos. Also sometimes people just stand there for no reason biggrin.gif

Btw, it's nice to have sort of like phantom walking in your pics tongue.gif



Anyway... For me it's still more like trial and error. When you see a scene you roughly have an idea what is the output you're expecting and thus you can just try to achieve it through trial and error. When one setting isn't working, keep trying. No dead rules in photography biggrin.gif The more you try the more eexperience you gain and the next time you try to create a shot, you very much already know roughly what setting you need to use biggrin.gif

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Nice! Congrats!
I just bought Rokkor 50mm f1.4 today. I have one problem though and quite a serious one. I do not have a camera for it yet.

I still can't decide between Sony A7 or a Sony A7S. Im planning to use A7/A7S for portrait and indoor/night shooting.

I already have OMD EM1 for everything else.

A7 or A7S?
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What is min shutter speed to make crowd people "gone" from night landscape pic ?
3 mins bulb ?
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Like Iwan says, it depends on the lighting condition. Also, do you want them completely gone or do you want "phantoms"? If you want them completely gone, 3 mins bulb should do the trick most of the time, maybe bordering on overkill... heck, even 30 secs is enough already.

Most of my phantoms need nothing more than 2-3 secs anyway. And yes, sometimes you'll have this one guy/girl who decides to stand still thoughout your exposure anyway lol.

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Dec 28 2014, 08:25 PM)
Like Iwan says, it depends on the lighting condition. Also, do you want them completely gone or do you want "phantoms"? If you want them completely gone, 3 mins bulb should do the trick most of the time, maybe bordering on overkill... heck, even 30 secs is enough already.

Most of my phantoms need nothing more than 2-3 secs anyway. And yes, sometimes you'll have this one guy/girl who decides to stand still thoughout your exposure anyway lol.
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Prefer completely gone... Thx for the tips...
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Prefer completely gone... Thx for the tips...
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Sounds like you need those phones that let you remove object from a scene. Smart removal or something. I think Asus smart phones have it as well as other major brands biggrin.gif
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Sounds like you need those phones that let you remove object from a scene. Smart removal or something. I think Asus smart phones have it as well as other major brands biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(matsheikh @ Dec 28 2014, 07:30 PM)
Nice! Congrats!
I just bought Rokkor 50mm f1.4 today. I have one problem though and quite a serious one. I do not have a camera for it yet.

I still can't decide between Sony A7 or a Sony A7S. Im planning to use A7/A7S for portrait and indoor/night shooting.

I already have OMD EM1 for everything else.

A7 or A7S?
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Tepon ??? My tepon is dslr A57... laugh.gif
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biggrin.gif Your A57 cannot make calls cannot use apps.

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How much you got it for? I just e-bayed, some as low as $3X. Nice?

BTW bokeh in the first pic is a little distracting for me.
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Dec 29 2014, 12:42 PM)
biggrin.gif Your A57 cannot make calls cannot use apps.
How much you got it for? I just e-bayed, some as low as $3X. Nice?

BTW bokeh in the first pic is a little distracting for me.
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The busy swirly bokeh is its feature though, but have to meet right conditions to make it show up.
Got it at 30usd including shipping.
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Hi, just sharing some of my travel shots in Shanghai smile.gif

Can view more pictures at the dedicated thread here or click on my signature below smile.gif : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3454548

Yes, all taken by the Sony A6000 with the 16-50 kitty lens!

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The busy swirly bokeh is its feature though, but have to meet right conditions to make it show up.
Got it at 30usd including shipping.
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QUOTE(bdrc @ Dec 29 2014, 02:33 PM)
The busy swirly bokeh is its feature though, but have to meet right conditions to make it show up.
Got it at 30usd including shipping.
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how to do the swirly bokeh? hmm.gif I had the same lens but never success to make one rclxub.gif

I got mine with USD35 with 3 MACRO EXTENSION RINGS

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drool.gif that's cheap. I should grab one to play. Where you get the adaptor?
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I got m42 adapter from ebay as well, about 5usd all in.

QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Dec 30 2014, 07:43 AM)
how to do the swirly bokeh?  hmm.gif  I had the same lens but never success to make one  rclxub.gif

I got mine with USD35 with 3 MACRO EXTENSION RINGS
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IIRC Helios 44 from 1~3 is easier to make the swirly bokeh, ver4 and later has different coatings, sharper but less swirly.
You'll have better luck when you focus a subject in fairly close distance, with far away background and has catchlight.

Can look at here as well:
http://digital-photography-school.com/crea...lios-44-2-lens/

My sample, still experimenting:

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I got m42 adapter from ebay as well, about 5usd all in.
IIRC Helios 44 from 1~3 is easier to make the swirly bokeh, ver4 and later has different coatings, sharper but less swirly.
You'll have better luck when you focus a subject in fairly close distance, with far away background and has catchlight.

Can look at here as well:
http://digital-photography-school.com/crea...lios-44-2-lens/

My sample, still experimenting:

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mine is 44-2...so is ver 2?
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ok noted...
mine is 44-2...so is ver 2?
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Some more samples are in my flickr, but enough spam for the day :v
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Notice raw image become darker after imported into lightroom (latest), did some findings found that we need to do some setup in order to match with sony camera settings. Anyone have this experience before and mind share your ideal setup/opinion?
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Adobe doesnt has the right to use the original sony color profiling (color maps) so adobe make it to default. you can set and adjust it to your liking and auto apply to all your raw files. also, u lose all dynamic range data when used with adobe raw engine (adobe raw converter/lightroom)... same case with canikon using Adobe too. they loose bunch of canikon proprietary data.

you will never get 100% sony color(and dynamic range) unless u use back sony own raw editor.

QUOTE(sitescope @ Dec 28 2014, 01:05 PM)
What is min shutter speed to make crowd people "gone" from night landscape pic ?
3 mins bulb ?
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shutter speed wont help you with packed situation even u expose for 10 minute, the shadow(phantoms) image will still be there....

the best way to do it is to use MEDIAN in adobe, u snap about 10 photo(more the better accuracy) for about every 15-30 sec(not shutter speed, duration between each shot, or in between the crowd move away from the blocked landscape), photoshop will take the 10 photo(s) and remove(subtract) items that is not suppose to be there (non static subject)

for deeper info how to use it, you can google "photoshop crowd removal Median" in youtube.

unless you dont wan to use Photoshop, then there is no best way to do it.
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Guys,
ask for the opinion.
I received my A7ii with kit lens.
Now, problem coming... for the 70-200, should I get the FE 70-200/4 or use LA-EA4 pair with my SAL 70-200G?

There is the pro and con between E-mount & A mount

E-mount:
Pro:
- can fully utilize hybrid focusing
- focusing coverage is wide
- Size and weight
- Color (notice that skin tone color is good)

Con:
- Need to buy new (RM4K)
- F4 ?

A mount:
pro:
- F2.8
- Ready with me
- Only need to purchase LA-EA4

Con:
- cannot utilize A7ii hybrid focusing
- LA-EA4 focusing coverage in frame is less, too center.
- Weight & Size

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QUOTE(boyzone @ Dec 30 2014, 03:59 PM)
Guys,
ask for the opinion.
I received my A7ii with kit lens.
Now, problem coming... for the 70-200, should I get the FE 70-200/4 or use LA-EA4 pair with my SAL 70-200G?

There is the pro and con between E-mount & A mount

E-mount:
Pro:
- can fully utilize hybrid focusing
- focusing coverage is wide
- Size and weight
- Color (notice that skin tone color is good)

Con:
- Need to buy new (RM4K)
- F4 ?

A mount:
pro:
- F2.8
- Ready with me
- Only need to purchase LA-EA4

Con:
- cannot utilize A7ii hybrid focusing
- LA-EA4 focusing coverage in frame is less, too center.
- Weight & Size
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Adobe doesnt has the right to use the original sony color profiling (color maps) so adobe make it to default. you can set and adjust it to your liking and auto apply to all your raw files. also, u lose all dynamic range data when used with adobe raw engine (adobe raw converter/lightroom)... same case with canikon using Adobe too. they loose bunch of canikon proprietary data.

you will never get 100% sony color(and dynamic range) unless u use back sony own raw editor.

shutter speed wont help you with packed situation even u expose for 10 minute, the shadow(phantoms) image will still be there....

the best way to do it is to use MEDIAN in adobe, u snap about 10 photo(more the better accuracy) for about every 15-30 sec(not shutter speed, duration between each shot, or in between the crowd move away from the blocked landscape), photoshop will take the 10 photo(s) and remove(subtract) items that is not suppose to be there (non static subject)

for deeper info how to use it, you can google "photoshop crowd removal Median" in youtube.

unless you dont wan to use Photoshop, then there is no best way to do it.
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Well he can try buying a ND400 and an hour long bulb exposure if he doesn't want Photoshop... Though arguably, with the cost of a proper ND400 + tripod it's prolly better to just buy PS under a educational license (if applicable).

Though, like you said, if it's a packed situation with a bunch of people standing still, maybe even an hour won't help lol.

As for raw conversion, Sony seems set to bundle Capture One Express (for Sony) for their stuff now (vs their own software)... so yeah that's your Sony raw converter right there. Unfortunately, it's 64-bit only, though that shouldn't be a problem unless you're running it on an Atom Tablet/Netbook

That said, CO - while immensely powerful - has a laggy UI and takes a looooooong time to complete processes, even with the Pro version. And this is on a i7 with 16GBs of blardy RAM.

LR is muchhhhhh better in this aspect, plus it actually runs on my Atom Tablet.
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QUOTE(ieR @ Dec 30 2014, 03:35 PM)
the best way to do it is to use MEDIAN in adobe, u snap about 10 photo(more the better accuracy) for about every 15-30 sec(not shutter speed, duration between each shot, or in between the crowd move away from the blocked landscape), photoshop will take the 10 photo(s) and remove(subtract) items that is not suppose to be there (non static subject)

for deeper info how to use it, you can google "photoshop crowd removal Median" in youtube.

unless you dont wan to use Photoshop, then there is no best way to do it.
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I've no issue using PS or LR. Both installed in my comp.
For the 10 photos, each photo must has same shutter speed, aperture n iso ?
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QUOTE(sitescope @ Dec 30 2014, 11:08 PM)
I've no issue using PS or LR. Both installed in my comp.
For the 10 photos, each photo must has same shutter speed, aperture n iso ?
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the color and exposure dont diff too much... like day vs dawn vs night hahaha, as long as the person move away from the blocked spot, the photoshop will detect 2 shot blocked, 8 shot clear, it will use the 8 shot(area) as Median. try youtube it, you can easily understand it with those pro explaining, sorry im not that good in explaining.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Dec 30 2014, 09:55 PM)
Well he can try buying a ND400 and an hour long bulb exposure if he doesn't want Photoshop... Though arguably, with the cost of a proper ND400 + tripod it's prolly better to just buy PS under a educational license (if applicable).

Though, like you said, if it's a packed situation with a bunch of people standing still, maybe even an hour won't help lol.

As for raw conversion, Sony seems set to bundle Capture One Express (for Sony) for their stuff now (vs their own software)... so yeah that's your Sony raw converter right there. Unfortunately, it's 64-bit only, though that shouldn't be a problem unless you're running it on an Atom Tablet/Netbook

That said, CO - while immensely powerful - has a laggy UI and takes a looooooong time to complete processes, even with the Pro version. And this is on a i7 with 16GBs of blardy RAM.

LR is muchhhhhh better in this aspect, plus it actually runs on my Atom Tablet.
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cant afford PS can try GIMP, 70% similarity(most of us harrdly even used 10%), open source, FREE. got many plugin to install

oh yea, capture one sony version, i downloaded it but not yet test it... not so sure, i got my own workflow so not really affected me.

provided u customized your own color, your style in Lr lorrr.. nothing wrong. but sometimes u will lose the sony's looks... like how it looked like in jpeg. so in the end of the day it depend on each person preferences.
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cant afford PS can try GIMP, 70% similarity(most of us harrdly even used 10%), open source, FREE. got many plugin to install

oh yea, capture one sony version, i downloaded it but not yet test it... not so sure, i got my own workflow so not reathe lly affected me.

provided u customized your own color, your style in Lr lorrr.. nothing wrong. but sometimes u will lose the sony's looks... like how it looked like in jpeg. so in the end of the day it depend on each person preferences.
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This...

Photography, other than getting the basics right, is actually all about style IMHO. As in your very own style. Your very own *look* per se.

I mean, everyone can (arguably) take pictures. The bigger issue is, how do you wanna take pictures that people can know was taken by you? Doesn't matter if you get this *look* with your choice of lenses or filters or flash technique or PS or LR (or any combination of the above).

That said, this is prolly the hardest part in photography lol, and the one that needs the most hard work and discipline - and arguably is what makes or breaks a "photographer".

Personally I very malas so I just auto-everything on LR lol, but I do have a rough workflow on any of my pics - hopefully that will the basis of my *look* (whatever that will end up being)... if I ever feel bothered enough to properly PP my mountains of pictures lah lol.

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hey guys, I am a new owner of a6000. Need your advice, what is your camera setting for street?
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hey guys, I am a new owner of a6000. Need your advice, what is your camera setting for street?
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hey guys, I am a new owner of a6000. Need your advice, what is your camera setting for street?
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If you can't get it right, start with P. See what setting the camera is using. Take that as a base. If you like the photo at those settings, you roughly know where to start with.

There's no fixed setting. Even under similar environment, very different setting can be used to create very different results. Whether you want to freeze everyone in frame or to have sort of like phantom walking inside the frame or for the roads, you want to grab a shot of ligt trail or you want to freeze all the cars. You can even under expose it and leave just car lights visible in the frame.

Assuming you're still with your kit lens (so do I), there's less to play with aperture. Fiddle more with the shutter speed depends on what kind of motion you want to show inside the pic. Safely let the camera handle the ISO auto up to max say 6400. The more you shoot the more you know how to mess with each setting biggrin.gif

Wait other super experienced masters here to say a word for you biggrin.gif
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Intelligent auto works. Try it and learn from the settings.
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nixonyang, if u judging from the last parrot photo, its not wrong focus, its something wrong with the setting cause slow shutter cause the shake. its shaky photo, not outoffocus (oof)... cause i was about to ask what happened to the last photo...
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Dec 31 2014, 05:35 PM)
nixonyang, if u judging from the last parrot photo, its not wrong focus, its something wrong with the setting cause slow shutter cause the shake. its shaky photo, not outoffocus (oof)... cause i was about to ask what happened to the last photo...
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Dec 31 2014, 05:35 PM)
nixonyang, if u judging from the last parrot photo, its not wrong focus, its something wrong with the setting cause slow shutter cause the shake. its shaky photo, not outoffocus (oof)... cause i was about to ask what happened to the last photo...
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the last pic i thought was over cropped cause not shard and pixellation, maybe from compression online. the oof i referred to the shark
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Hi all,
Normally is how much to replace the sony sensor???
my one is A77.
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QUOTE(nixonyang @ Dec 31 2014, 07:46 PM)
the last pic i thought was over cropped cause not shard and pixellation, maybe from compression online. the oof i referred to the shark
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oh my bad kakakak anyway happy new year to everyone!
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oh my bad kakakak anyway happy new year to everyone!
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Decide to take my Novoflexar T 400mm out for a shooting spree to begin the New Year..

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Decide to take my Novoflexar T 400mm  out for a shooting spree to begin the New Year..

C&C Welcome. 
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Second pic took me few seconds to figure out what it is on my phone. Looks like the hand blends into the background haha
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Just came back from Singapore.

Been using camera everyday, those who said one battery cannot last you one day really depends on how you used them, everyday i get out from the house at 10/11am come back home at 10/11pm.

Average battery left ; 15-20%

and I walk alot and capture here and there alot.

Loving this camera even more now everything is so easy. No regrets, even met an uncle in Singapore we exchanged lens for one hour to play around lol!

I really want a 50mm by end of 2015. LOL
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You guys should stop the habit of quoting pictures though. biggrin.gif It stretches the page a lot more. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Jan 2 2015, 02:03 PM)
Been using camera everyday, those who said one battery cannot last you one day really depends on how you used them, everyday i get out from the house at 10/11am come back home at 10/11pm.
you don't run and gun like wedding photographers mah.

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run and gun get even more shots from a single batt then rated by cipa.

my worst run and gun was 5000+ shots with A580 from a single batt. a pageant show... (total 8k+ photo from 2 battery with 2nd batt left 50+%)
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Jan 2 2015, 06:33 PM)
run and gun get even more shots from a single batt then rated by cipa.

my worst run and gun was 5000+ shots with A580 from a single batt. a pageant show... (total 8k+ photo from 2 battery with 2nd batt left 50+%)
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OMG seriously? You sure your camera is A580 not a D4S? Lol
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Sorry on mobile really hard to put spoiler.
OMG seriously? You sure your camera is A580 not a D4S? Lol
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you don't run and gun like wedding photographers mah.
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here's a photo when im at Penang hill.

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hehe, I'm sure battery would last a decent number of days if one doesn't run and gun.

for example my Nikon D750 lasted me a week's holiday, and the only reason the 2nd half got drained was because I did Wi-Fi transfers for live blogging at an event.

for the A7 series, I'm pretty sure that if you're not the type that photograph every single minor details over a holiday it could last days.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 3 2015, 07:08 AM)
hehe, I'm sure battery would last a decent number of days if one doesn't run and gun.

for example my Nikon D750 lasted me a week's holiday, and the only reason the 2nd half got drained was because I did Wi-Fi transfers for live blogging at an event.

for the A7 series, I'm pretty sure that if you're not the type that photograph every single minor details over a holiday it could last days.
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I guess it depends. On my recent Japan trip my battery lasted an average of 1-2 days depending on use, so when people ask me how's the battery life on the A6k I'll tell them it's okay for a day of normal use.

On average I take about 300+ pics per day (a mode, auto ISO, RAW only, no flash, AF illuminator off; WIFI, NFC and remote detection always on, a couple of WIFI transfers to phone along the way) so that seems about right by Sony's calculation of 250 shots CIPA (as CIPA includes flash shots).

That said I tend to turn the camera off between shots so that might have helped. Also, if you turn off remote detection off and airline mode on, apparently you could save even more batt life. Also, I use primes exclusively so no drain to power zoom, if there is any.

Besides, if the battery life bothers any of you, *just* get a spare (or two) ler. Decent "branded" third-party batts work fine and lasts at least 70% as long for 30% the price - without threatening to explode every other minute like the totally unbranded cheapos. For instance, Pisen or Octopus or Wasabi Power.

They *are* slightly more fragile compared to ori FW50s however, especially the tiny plastic tabs that protect the battery contacts (I already broke a bit on one of my Octopus batts). Otherwise I can't think of any other flaws, especially on something that costs RM60 a pop. The ones I have are still in my rotation and still hold decent charge so yeah.

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300 per day and lasting 1 - 2 days is very good.

Spare battery is a must, regardless what level of user.
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OMG... Can't believe how slow the 16GB 40mb/s card Sony gave is. I put in another old micro SD with adaptor and I noticed significant faster write time by looking at the red light on A6000. Bought Samsung evo 48mb/s 16GB micro SD with adaptor ( weirdly no shop carries the SD version). Check the review and benchmark by website, the micro SD version perform as good as the SD version so I bought it as spare. It's much cheaper to buy here than in SG anyway. Tested the card on A6000. Significantly less time to clear buffer based on the red light.

RM28 only BTW.
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OMG... Can't believe how slow the 16GB 40mb/s card Sony gave is. I put in another old micro SD with adaptor and I noticed significant faster write time by looking at the red light on A6000. Bought Samsung evo 48mb/s 16GB micro SD with adaptor ( weirdly no shop carries the SD version). Check the review and benchmark by website, the micro SD version perform as good as the SD version so I bought it as spare. It's much cheaper to buy here than in SG anyway. Tested the card on AH6000. Significantly less time to clear buffer based on the red light.

RM28 only BTW.
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My freebie card was a Sony 16GB 90mb/s card. My other card is a Toshiba 32GB U3 card. I have no qualms about write speed except for the fact that I prolly need to move to microSD simply as it makes transferring files to my backup HDD easier.

How so? Right now my storage workflow is SD --> Tablet (OTG) and *then* Tablet --> HDD (OTG). Going to microSD means that I can go microSD --> HDD straight using the tablet as a bridge.

Unfortunately, I have had multiple bad experiences with microSDs dying on me so I don't really look at them well for reliability - and losing pictures is *never* fun. So right now I'm still stuck with trusting the big 'uns.

Of course the *better* way is to just get a WD My Passport Wireless (you know, the HDD with an SD slot built in)... but I haz no monies.

Oh and them ratings on the cards? Those are usually *read* speed. What we're more concerned with is *write* speed, and the A6k works best with something that runs 60mb/s write or above, although something like 95mb/s is prolly overkill as the card slot can't write that fast either.

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Just did a test the other day http://www.goldfries.com/photography/class...ght-fast-think/

I feel that unless you're using burst mode all the time, there's not a need for fast writing cards.

I've used the WD My Passport Wireless too and it's awesome stuff.
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I use RAW burst shots sometimes on my A6000 at 11fps and the fast writting speed of the Sandisk 16GB 45Mb/s card certainly helps a lot! On the slower Sony 15Mb/s card, I have to wait for dunno how long sad.gif
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Anyway guys, for those using A6000, did you notice something stupid.. ? If you choose sRGB as the colour space, the file number is like DSCXXXX but if you choose AdobeRGB the file number becomes _DSCXXX with the underscore at the front!!!

Screws up the numbering when sorting using file name... weird stuff.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 3 2015, 06:18 PM)
Just did a test the other day http://www.goldfries.com/photography/class...ght-fast-think/

I feel that unless you're using burst mode all the time, there's not a need for fast writing cards.

I've used the WD My Passport Wireless too and it's awesome stuff.
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Even when taking single shot also very obvious. Sometimes after single shot I press something it will say still writing when I'm on the 16gb free card. Using the old class 4 micro SD and the new 16gb evo it's significantly faster. More snappy actually when pressing thing after just a single shot.
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That's why I am on the Sandisk UHS-1 cards since A77......

There's no reason to go for slower cards when you can afford an expensive camera tongue.gif
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jan 3 2015, 07:12 PM)
Even when taking single shot also very obvious. Sometimes after single shot I press something it will say still writing when I'm on the 16gb free card. Using the old class 4 micro SD and the new 16gb evo it's significantly faster. More snappy actually when pressing thing after just a single shot.
What's the problem? Your camera would still allow you to take photos as long as the buffer is not filled.

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jan 3 2015, 07:12 PM)
Even when taking single shot also very obvious. Sometimes after single shot I press something it will say still writing when I'm on the 16gb free card. Using the old class 4 micro SD and the new 16gb evo it's significantly faster. More snappy actually when pressing thing after just a single shot.
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No wonder la they gave it u for free... Lolz
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Just barely managed to coax LR5 to run on my 2GB RAM Win8 Atom Tablet lol. It worked fabulously for editing and developing BUT kept on giving me OOM errors when I started exporting RAWs to JPEG unless I shut down like a third of my BG processes and all of the export plugins... annnnnd I could only export from the "Library" screen.

TBF, it was stated in the reqs that it would work better with 4GB RAM, though with 2GB I was already clearing the min reqs. And the problem is ONLY with exporting.

With all that, at least it worked... for a bit (3-4 exports)... before needing to restart the entire program to clear the OOM errors for more exports.

Anything else that can do RAW processing decently l without being too heavy for a puny Atom Tablet?

I tried Photo Mate R2 for my android phone, but that one kept on screwing up my exposure settings.

Capture One? No 32-bit version lol. Plus even the 64-bit version is sluggish lol.

LR4? Don't think that supports RAWs from the A6k (do chime in if you have LR4 and it works with your A6k RAWs). Also apparently it has the 32-bit OOM export issue as well lol.

Now checking out Corel AfterShot Pro 2 (aka the new Bibble Pro)- hopefully it can fill the void for a decent non-destructive RAW processor on my Tabet without having to go through the magical dance and song I have to do with LR.

If all else fails I'll prolly either stick with LR (+ the singing and dancing) or go use the old Sony ARW software.

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What's the problem? Your camera would still allow you to take photos as long as the buffer is not filled.
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But it will say...

Writing to... Unable to operate... Something like that.

Sometimes you just want to change the thing and then the message pop up.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 3 2015, 08:48 PM)
Just barely managed to coax LR5 to run on my 2GB RAM Win8 Atom Tablet lol. It worked fabulously for editing and developing BUT kept on giving me OOM errors when I started exporting RAWs to JPEG unless I shut down like a third of my BG processes and all of the export plugins... annnnnd I could only export from the "Library" screen.
ouhhh this one damn annoying stuff man.

I had 8GB RAM and worked fine with Adobe CS3. Once I went Adobe CC, gone case as Windows 7 keeps popping that OUT OF MEMORY.

In the end had to resort to using 16GB.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 4 2015, 07:50 AM)
ouhhh this one damn annoying stuff man.

I had 8GB RAM and worked fine with Adobe CS3. Once I went Adobe CC, gone case as Windows 7 keeps popping that OUT OF MEMORY.

In the end had to resort to using 16GB.
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Eh i'm using w8.1 with 8gb ram...
So far no OOM msg with adobe cc...
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Adobe being Adobe... Their stuff are bloated... but unfortunately they just work better than their competitors' stuff.

Not sure because they're just more intuitive or what.

I mean... I TRIED *very* hard to like Capture One... I did... But in the end I ran back to LR anyway. Similarly with every DPS out there vs Indesign and Illustrator... tried them, went back to the Adobe stuff.

They're the industry standard for a reason after all.

That said, I hope AfterShot works well on the tablet cause restarting LR after every 3rd RAW export gets rather tiring - which is a shame coz the developing bits work so wonderfully well even under such limited resources.

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Hey guys, do anyone know where in Malaysia can I find the Zeiss Loxia lens to try playing with it? I always go to Sony Stores to test any Sony cameras and lenses, especially the KLCC store, brilliant! But this time, too bad, it's a REAL Zeiss, Sony Stores do not sell them. doh.gif

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Hey guys, do anyone know where in Malaysia can I find the Zeiss Loxia lens to try playing with it? I always go to Sony Stores to test any Sony cameras and lenses, especially the KLCC store, brilliant! But this time, too bad, it's a REAL Zeiss, Sony Stores do not sell them.  doh.gif

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Zaloon & YL might get loxia, probably
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I second YL, especially the PJ branch. Not sure if they have the Loxia in stock, but it has been my to-go shop for testing stuff for a while now - they have a policy of letting you test *anything*.

YL Pudu is also not bad, plus it's in the same building as Zaloon (Pudu Plaza) so you get the chance to check out both shops in one go.

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tonight Sony will realease something right? hopefully they annouce a7000 or anything higher spec than a6000 and arrive in Malaysia by CNY
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tonight Sony will realease something right? hopefully they annouce a7000 or anything higher spec than a6000 and arrive in Malaysia by CNY
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Don't hold your breath. The rumour mills have been pretty quiet for CES besides rumours of new a 4k Action Cam and maybe new camcorders.

Seems the major E- and A- mount product announcements are only coming at CP+ in February - so nope, A7000 after CNY most prolly.

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Don't hold your breath. The rumour mills have been pretty quiet for CES besides rumours of new a 4k Action Cam and maybe new camcorders.

Seems the major E- and A- mount product announcements are only coming at CP+ in February - so nope, A7000 after CNY most prolly.
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Will Sony camera be cheap in Japan?
How about system menu? Will it be in English?
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Will Sony camera be cheap in Japan?
How about system menu? Will it be in English?
How about warranty? Is it covered in Malaysia?
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1. Sometimes, when they have sales. Some lenses are. And they have a *very* extensive array of second hand stuff, camera *and* lenses included - some of which can be relatively cheap. You'll just have to know where to look.

I DO know for sure the Sigma 19mm ART E-mount is *a whole lot* cheaper brand new in Japan though (coz I bought one there).

BUT from my recent stopovers at most of the Yodobashis and Bics all across the land of the rising sun, NO, Sony cameras (and cameras in general) are NOT cheaper there than here... unless they're having some wierd sales (that they actually *DO* have sometimes).

Stuff from Amazon.jp can be quite cheap though, but you'll have to figure out how to ship to where ever you're staying there.

2. Unless you buy the "International" models, NO, especially for Sony stuff. Menus will be in Japanese ONLY - and you can't change the language to anything else. And the international models are *even more* expensive than the Domestic Models (which are not cheap either).

Not sure for other manufacturers though (I've heard that JDM Oly cams have English language options) but Sony Japan Domestic Models have been that way for a while now.

3. For "International" models, they usually come with International warranty. For everything else... NOPE. Even my Sigma 19mm has a Japan only warranty - though it was significantly cheap enough to be worth it.

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That said, Japan is still a very fun place to get camera stuff from, especially second hand lenses and wierd accessories. They even have that Hakuba mini sandbag thing that I've never seen anywhere else, ever - and I still haven't seen anywhere else.

Also RM15-20 sparkling clean second hand brand name filters of all sorts (NDs, Cir-PLs, Grads). Mmmmmmmm... Cheap good filters...

It'a just not the best place to get the cameras themselves, unless you know Japanese.

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If you *do* buy NEW electronics (even lenses) from Japan, check if it's eligible for "Menzai" or tax exemption. The Japanese have to pay sales tax (GST) for every electronics they buy. You usually don't have to. Just say "Menzai?" and the staff will usually know what you want.

If what you're buying can be "Menzai"-ed, the staff will usually assist you to fill up a form that you'll have to show to customs on your way out later.

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Quick2 release a7k so i can buy a6k at rm1k...
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Quick2 release a7k so i can buy a6k at rm1k...
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Lorr... I bought my A6k body only already around there (1.2-1.3, can't remember)? And it has been months since.

Though for sure the 2nd hand market will explode once the A7k comes along and people starts getting itchy to upgrade.

Me? I'll stay with my A6k thanks, at least until a FF rangefinder style Alpha comes along. And it's prolly gonna be a looooooong wait.

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Lorr... I bought my A6k body only already around there (1.2-1.3, can't remember)? And it has been months since.

Though for sure the 2nd hand market will explode once the A7k comes along and people starts getting itchy to upgrade.

Me? I'll stay with my A6k thanks, at least until a FF rangefinder style Alpha comes along. And it's prolly gonna be a looooooong wait.
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huh??? 1.3k?? where share sos kicap?

acutally i hope a7000 body come with exposure dial, much easier to set

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huh??? 1.3k?? where share sos kicap?

acutally i hope a7000 body come with exposure dial, much easier to set
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Eh wait sekejap... That was wrong sorry... it was actually 2.2k lol... sorry about that. Lupa.

But really, 1k for the A6k would require wait wait longing... biggrin.gif
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Will Sony camera be cheap in Japan?
How about system menu? Will it be in English?
How about warranty? Is it covered in Malaysia?
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1. base on current currency, YES. bring your passport, they will auto deduct the tax. and clip the receipt on your passport (for exiting custom and incase your entering home country impose tax)

2. only JAPANESE. it will not have international menu (no multi language. IMPOSSIBLE to flash international firmware.) and international only able to buy in AIRPORT(very rare), but it wouldnt be cheaper AFAIK vs street price in OSAKA/Tokyo. Sony Japan stop selling international unit in airport to avoid international warranty conflicts. (just chat with my friend in sony), so we wouldnt be sure if 3rd/4th party shop may sell them, but it would be all japanese version too.

3. warranty coverage ONLY in japan.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 5 2015, 01:35 PM)
1. Sometimes, when they have sales. Some lenses are. And they have a *very* extensive array of second hand stuff, camera *and* lenses included - some of which can be relatively cheap. You'll just have to know where to look.

I DO know for sure the Sigma 19mm ART E-mount is *a whole lot* cheaper brand new in Japan though (coz I bought one there).

BUT from my recent stopovers at most of the Yodobashis and Bics all across the land of the rising sun, NO, Sony cameras (and cameras in general) are NOT cheaper there than here... unless they're having some wierd sales (that they actually *DO* have sometimes).

Stuff from Amazon.jp can be quite cheap though, but you'll have to figure out how to ship to where ever you're staying there.

2. Unless you buy the "International" models, NO, especially for Sony stuff. Menus will be in Japanese ONLY - and you can't change the language to anything else. And the international models are *even more* expensive than the Domestic Models (which are not cheap either).

Not sure for other manufacturers though (I've heard that JDM Oly cams have English language options) but Sony Japan Domestic Models have been that way for a while now.

3. For "International" models, they usually come with International warranty. For everything else... NOPE. Even my Sigma 19mm has a Japan only warranty - though it was significantly cheap enough to be worth it.

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That said, Japan is still a very fun place to get camera stuff from, especially second hand lenses and wierd accessories. They even have that Hakuba mini sandbag thing that I've never seen anywhere else, ever - and I still haven't seen anywhere else.

Also RM15-20 sparkling clean second hand brand name filters of all sorts (NDs, Cir-PLs, Grads). Mmmmmmmm... Cheap good filters...

It'a just not the best place to get the cameras themselves, unless you know Japanese.

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If what you're buying can be "Menzai"-ed, the staff will usually assist you to fill up a form that you'll have to show to customs on your way out later.
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Thanks for the lengthy feedback, I appreciate your sharing. Guess, I will avoid buying from Japan then. We own a Sony Nex 6, was wondering if there is anything good to buy while in Japan. Do you think I should grab a E-mount Carl Zeiss lens? I currently have the 16-50mm kit lens only. Tested my friend's SEL24F18Z, it was very nice. Much crispier than our kit lens.

QUOTE(edpaul @ Jan 5 2015, 05:38 PM)
1. base on current currency, YES. bring your passport, they will auto deduct the tax. and clip the receipt on your passport (for exiting custom and incase your entering home country impose tax)

2. only JAPANESE. it will not have international menu (no multi language. IMPOSSIBLE to flash international firmware.) and international only able to buy in AIRPORT(very rare), but it wouldnt be cheaper AFAIK vs street price in OSAKA/Tokyo. Sony Japan stop selling international unit in airport to avoid international warranty conflicts. (just chat with my friend in sony), so we wouldnt be sure if 3rd/4th party shop may sell them, but it would be all japanese version too.

3. warranty coverage ONLY in japan.
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So no camera but what about must-have accessories for a Nex 6? Or lenses? Any recommendation for a good travelling lens? We are using 16-50 kit now.
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Thanks for the lengthy feedback, I appreciate your sharing. Guess, I will avoid buying from Japan then. We own a Sony Nex 6, was wondering if there is anything good to buy while in Japan. Do you think I should grab a E-mount Carl Zeiss lens? I currently have the 16-50mm kit lens only. Tested my friend's SEL24F18Z, it was very nice. Much crispier than our kit lens.
So no camera but what about must-have accessories for a Nex 6? Or lenses? Any recommendation for a good travelling lens? We are using 16-50 kit now.
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must have accessories ah? nex6 basically is all in one already. the only thing i could think of is just a wireless remote and a travel tripod... but those can get locally.

i notice you used "we" so i assume a companionship, so for lens, grab a 16mmF2.8 + fisheye adapter(locally sourced would be cheaper too)... it will be a great selfie with landscape bg lens. or if u like portraits of 'her' try grabing a 35mmF1.8 a little simple portrait with bokeh lens. smile.gif

anyway i wouldnt advise to go for any lens from oversea no matter how cheap it is.... myself is a oldman, where im willing to pay a little more just for the peace of mind of local warranty. it also makes the investment worthwhile.

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Thanks for the lengthy feedback, I appreciate your sharing. Guess, I will avoid buying from Japan then. We own a Sony Nex 6, was wondering if there is anything good to buy while in Japan. Do you think I should grab a E-mount Carl Zeiss lens? I currently have the 16-50mm kit lens only. Tested my friend's SEL24F18Z, it was very nice. Much crispier than our kit lens.
So no camera but what about must-have accessories for a Nex 6? Or lenses? Any recommendation for a good travelling lens? We are using 16-50 kit now.
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if u have more budget, i'm recommend SEL1670Z, which would produce marvelous IQ picture biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the lengthy feedback, I appreciate your sharing. Guess, I will avoid buying from Japan then. We own a Sony Nex 6, was wondering if there is anything good to buy while in Japan. Do you think I should grab a E-mount Carl Zeiss lens? I currently have the 16-50mm kit lens only. Tested my friend's SEL24F18Z, it was very nice. Much crispier than our kit lens.

So no camera but what about must-have accessories for a Nex 6? Or lenses? Any recommendation for a good travelling lens? We are using 16-50 kit now.
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Other than the cheapie Sigmas (19, 30 and 60), not really. Sony lenses is almost always never discounted much, and thus not worth the non-warranty.

Second hand however, is a different story, if you can stomach the lack of a warranty. I've seen the SEL1018 going for quite cheap (1.2-1.4k? Not sure...) 2nd hand over at Fujiya Nakano near Tokyo.

About travelling lenses...

Short version: Get the SEL35 if you want a low light, bokehlicious prime to go *with* your kitty lens. It's good for almost everything you don't need zooming with.

Also, consider the Tamron 18200 E-mount if you want to replace your kitty with something inexpensive that zooms longer, or the SEL1670F4Z if you want to replace your kitty with something sharper but more expensive.

But even if you replace your kitty lens with the Tammy or the SEL1670F4Z, the SEL35 is still worth getting anyway. It's that useful.

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As for buying lenses over there or locally - taking into account my earlier warning about lens prices (other than the Sigma, and maybe the Tamron) being not much different over there brand new - whether or not its worth it to get a lens sans warranty is up to you.

If it's 2nd hand and cheap enough, it might be, because if you buy 2nd hand locally you won't get warranty either.

But new, that is entirely up to you. For me the Japanese price of the Sigmas push them square into "impulse buy" territory lol, even sans warranty. For others, that might still not make it worth the risk.

As for the SEL24F18Z? I didn't bump into a 2nd hand unit cheap enough to be worth the lack of warranty over there, and new ones are even more expensive so it's totally not worth buying sans warranty lol.

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 5 2015, 03:34 PM)
Lorr... I bought my A6k body only already around there (1.2-1.3, can't remember)? And it has been months since.
Though for sure the 2nd hand market will explode once the A7k comes along and people starts getting itchy to upgrade.
Me? I'll stay with my A6k thanks, at least until a FF rangefinder style Alpha comes along. And it's prolly gonna be a looooooong wait.
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Eh wait sekejap... That was wrong sorry... it was actually 2.2k lol... sorry about that. Lupa.
But really, 1k for the A6k would require wait wait longing... biggrin.gif
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Lucky wrong... If new 1.2k with kitlens, today jugak go buy it...
No need to wait too long, lots of richfag here in garage sales... I've seen the pattern for few years when new model come out...
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Jan 5 2015, 11:13 PM)
must have accessories ah? nex6 basically is all in one already. the only thing i could think of is just a wireless remote and a travel tripod... but those can get locally.

i notice you used "we" so i assume a companionship, so for lens, grab a 16mmF2.8 + fisheye adapter(locally sourced would be cheaper too)... it will be a great selfie with landscape bg lens. or if u like portraits of 'her' try grabing a 35mmF1.8 a little simple portrait with bokeh lens. smile.gif

anyway i wouldnt advise to go for any lens from oversea no matter how cheap it is.... myself is a oldman, where im willing to pay a little more just for the peace of mind of local warranty. it also makes the investment worthwhile.
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Yeah, the NEX 6 is pretty much self sustain but not the best camera out there. Even the best is no use in our hands because we are not professional photographers. Yes, my hubby is gadgets and a Canon 5D before, but has sold it long ago. Now, thinking of the A7II but cannot justify RM8k. Hahaha... I think all we need is a better travel lens compared to the kit lens but warranty becomes the issue (Thanks for the warning!).

Looks like it's all see and nothing to buy. I will heed your advise. Thank you, oldman.

QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jan 6 2015, 12:05 AM)
if u have more budget, i'm recommend SEL1670Z, which would produce marvelous IQ picture biggrin.gif
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Exceeded budget. By the way, can the SEL1670Z be used with A7II (in case we upgrade?)?

QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 6 2015, 12:15 AM)
Other than the cheapie Sigmas (19, 30 and 60), not really. Sony lenses is almost always never discounted much, and thus not worth the non-warranty.

Second hand however, is a different story, if you can stomach the lack of a warranty. I've seen the SEL1018 going for quite cheap (1.2-1.4k? Not sure...) 2nd hand over at Fujiya Nakano near Tokyo.

About travelling lenses...

Short version: Get the SEL35 if you want a low light, bokehlicious prime to go *with* your kitty lens. It's good for almost everything you don't need zooming with.

Also, consider the Tamron 18200 E-mount if you want to replace your kitty with something inexpensive that zooms longer, or the SEL1670F4Z if you want to replace your kitty with something sharper but more expensive.

But even if you replace your kitty lens with the Tammy or the SEL1670F4Z, the SEL35 is still worth getting anyway. It's that useful.

For a longer explanation do click the spoiler.

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As for buying lenses over there or locally - taking into account my earlier warning about lens prices (other than the Sigma, and maybe the Tamron) being not much different over there brand new - whether or not its worth it to get a lens sans warranty is up to you.

If it's 2nd hand and cheap enough, it might be, because if you buy 2nd hand locally you won't get warranty either.

But new, that is entirely up to you. For me the Japanese price of the Sigmas push them square into "impulse buy" territory lol, even sans warranty. For others, that might still not make it worth the risk.

As for the SEL24F18Z? I didn't bump into a 2nd hand unit cheap enough to be worth the lack of warranty over there, and new ones are even more expensive so it's totally not worth buying sans warranty lol.
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We are not camera enthusiast so we are unfamiliar with second hand market. Also first time in Japan, would not know where to go look for these items. Just thought camera stuff will be really cheap there but seems like there is nothing to buy now.
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With 5 axis stabilization , handheld can be lower than 1/2 secs ?
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Sony claims to have 4.5 stops improvement.

The classic recommendation is to use a shutter speed that is equal to 1 / (focal length * crop factor). So a 40mm lens on APS-C should use 1/60s and a 50mm lens on FF should use 50mm.

Each stop slower is 2 times the shutter speed.

1/focal length * crop factor * (2 ^ stabilization stops) = safe shutter speed
1/focal length * 1 * (2 ^ 4.5) = 0.5s
1/focal length * 22.6 = 0.5s
1/focal length = 0.5s / 22.6
1/focal length = 0.022
focal length = 1/0.022 = 45mm

So if you use a 45mm lens, with 4.5 stops, you can get 1/2th of a second. If you use a longer focal length then you can't lah.
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Exceeded budget. By the way, can the SEL1670Z be used with A7II (in case we upgrade?)?
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Sony claims to have 4.5 stops improvement.

The classic recommendation is to use a shutter speed that is equal to 1 / (focal length * crop factor). So a 40mm lens on APS-C should use 1/60s and a 50mm lens on FF should use 50mm.

Each stop slower is 2 times the shutter speed.

1/focal length * crop factor * (2 ^ stabilization stops) = safe shutter speed
1/focal length * 1 * (2 ^ 4.5) = 0.5s
1/focal length * 22.6 = 0.5s
1/focal length = 0.5s / 22.6
1/focal length = 0.022
focal length = 1/0.022 = 45mm

So if you use a 45mm lens, with 4.5 stops, you can get 1/2th of a second. If you use a longer focal length then you can't lah.
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With 5 axis stabilization , handheld can be lower than 1/2 secs ?
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Unfortunately for legacy lens with no electronics, it is reported that only 3 axis will work sweat.gif

Lets see if Sony can do anything about it with firmware updates.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Jan 7 2015, 11:28 AM)
Unfortunately for legacy lens with no electronics, it is reported that only 3 axis will work sweat.gif

Lets see if Sony can do anything about it with firmware updates.
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I'm guessing the pitch + yaw detection depends on focus distance (lens elements typically move forward and back to focus.) You can enter the focal length, but how are you going to enter the focus distance and then refocus?

Also, there are 4 Sony A-mount lenses that don't support 5-axis - coincidentally these 4 are the old Minoltas that Sony did not bother to add (focus) distance encoding (you can tell as they have 5 pins and not 8.)
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I'm guessing the pitch + yaw detection depends on focus distance (lens elements typically move forward and back to focus.) You can enter the focal length, but how are you going to enter the focus distance and then refocus?

Also, there are 4 Sony A-mount lenses that don't support 5-axis - coincidentally these 4 are the old Minoltas that Sony did not bother to add (focus) distance encoding (you can tell as they have 5 pins and not 8.)
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That said, free 3-axis IBIS for any legacy lens is a delicious bonus on it's own, vs absolutely no IS with MF lenses that we're having now with the mirrorless troupe.

I'm wondering though, on the older Alpha series bodies, how many axis did the old SSS IBIS work on?
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That said, free 3-axis IBIS for any legacy lens is a delicious bonus on it's own, vs absolutely no IS with MF lenses that we're having now with the mirrorless troupe.

I'm wondering though, on the older Alpha series bodies, how many axis did the old SSS IBIS work on?
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that why i dont understand when ppl start bashing and booo stating "only 3 axis when use 3rd party lens"?!?!?!?!

how many axis does olympus 5 axis give to 3rd party?

yaw and pitch has very very very minor assist in stabilizing from the 'sensor' area. it is only useful (obvious more stops of stabilizing) when used future away from sensor, eg. in lens IS.

even that being said, i am still confuse with one point...... doesnt sigma OS/tamron VC still works when attached to Sony A mount? soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..............................................

does that mean if the 3rd party in lens IS will work too, with the 3 axis in A7 II?????????????????????????

who can go sony center bring a sigma OS/tamron VC to test?? thumbup.gif

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Would like to hear some hands on feedback for HVL-F32m and NIsson i40, which one would be better pairing with F43m?
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IMHO, as you already have a Sony flash, another Sony flash would be the best pairing as you'you'll get full wireless functionality (with one of them as the commander).

The i40 works better as a standalone flash for those who only need one flash. Sure it has slave function and wireless mode, but for sure it's not gonna have as much functionality as a first party Sony flash.

IMHO anyway.
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Thinking to visit KLCC's Sony centre tomorrow to check out their member's day promo.
Would like to hear some hands on feedback for HVL-F32m and NIsson i40, which one would be better pairing with F43m?
How to be a member?
Any news of the A7ii?
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The LA-EA2... with the rear baffles removed DIY (ask albnok). Other than that, nope. At least not for A-mount.

For other mounts you got the AF adapters for EOS lenses (got a few manufacturers) and the AF adapter for the Contax mount by Deo-Tech. They're a bit slow but they work well for non-critical applications.
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Depends on the Sony lens.

LA-EA1 - APS-C with contrast detect AF for A-mount lenses with built-in focus motors (SSM, SAM, HSM, USD) but can remove rear baffle to become full-frame
LA-EA2 - APS-C with phase detect AF for all A-mount lenses
LA-EA3 - FF with contrast detect AF for A-mount lenses with built-in focus motors (SSM, SAM, HSM, USD)
LA-EA4 - FF with phase detect AF for all A-mount lenses

Note that when I use the LA-EA1 with a SSM lens in bright daylight on my A7S, it is still slow!
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The LA-EA2... with the rear baffles removed DIY (ask albnok). Other than that, nope. At least not for A-mount.

For other mounts you got the AF adapters for EOS lenses (got a few manufacturers) and the AF adapter for the Contax mount by Deo-Tech. They're a bit slow but they work well for non-critical applications.
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anyone tried Minolta Celtic lenses b4? i found one 135mm F3.5 MD mount on ebay and wonder if it will work perfectly on A7..able to focus to infinity?
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anyone tried Minolta Celtic lenses b4? i found one 135mm F3.5 MD mount on ebay and wonder if it will work perfectly on A7..able to focus to infinity?
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guys, can help me recommend a reliable & affordable solution for this situation. basically i wanna do this..

- trigger 1 or 2 flashlight at same time (camera in middle, 1 flashlight on the left and the other on the right side)
- each time i press shutter then the flashlight will fire too..

newbie in lighting thingy so any recommendation on what's to get is highly appreciated. am planning to use this with Sony A7.

thanks heaps!

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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Jan 9 2015, 04:07 PM)
guys, can help me recommend a reliable & affordable solution for this situation. basically i wanna do this..

- trigger 1 or 2 flashlight at same time (camera in middle, 1 flashlight on the left and the other on the right side)
- each time i press shutter then the flashlight will fire too..

newbie in lighting thingy so any recommendation on what's to get is highly appreciated. am planning to use this with Sony A7.

thanks heaps!
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This is the easiest solution with automatic flash metering:

Buy a HVL-F20M for the A7.

Buy 2 HVL-F43M flashes to trigger off-camera.

Set the A7 flash to wireless flash.

Press the Mode button on both HVL-F43M flashes until it says RMT.

You'll have wireless flash!
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 5 2015, 04:49 PM)
Eh wait sekejap... That was wrong sorry... it was actually 2.2k lol... sorry about that. Lupa.

But really, 1k for the A6k would require wait wait longing... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Jan 9 2015, 04:24 AM)
Suddenly I remember that I haven't flashed the latest firmware for my A6k yet lololol... Sure it's just startup enhancements but...
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hi guys, want to get some of ur opinion
im looking for a camera, always love sony nex, but got no money to buy last time
i saw 1 shop sell a6000 for rm2150 with 2 batteries, 2 16gb memory and a bag
is it a good deal? or should wait for upcoming model?

im planning to buy a camera as part of the wedding gifts for wedding around sept this year..
shud i wait or buy now?
scared everyhing will become more expensive after this, with gst etcetc sweat.gif
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QUOTE(hyperx @ Jan 9 2015, 07:53 PM)
hi guys, want to get some of ur opinion
im looking for a camera, always love sony nex, but got no money to buy last time
i saw 1 shop sell a6000 for rm2150 with 2 batteries, 2 16gb memory and a bag
is it a good deal? or should wait for upcoming model?

im planning to buy a camera as part of the wedding gifts for wedding around sept this year..
shud i wait or buy now?
scared everyhing will become more expensive after this, with gst etcetc  sweat.gif
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about extra battery, u should get external charger as well. thus u can charge 2 battery with camera and external charger at the same time (although i would recommend u to charge battery with external charger)
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QUOTE(hyperx @ Jan 9 2015, 07:53 PM)
hi guys, want to get some of ur opinion
im looking for a camera, always love sony nex, but got no money to buy last time
i saw 1 shop sell a6000 for rm2150 with 2 batteries, 2 16gb memory and a bag
is it a good deal? or should wait for upcoming model?

im planning to buy a camera as part of the wedding gifts for wedding around sept this year..
shud i wait or buy now?
scared everyhing will become more expensive after this, with gst etcetc  sweat.gif
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wait after feb. after CP+, maybe launch new model.

any way, buy before april if you worry about GST.

but, as a wedding gift, why would you buy something like a camera? rclxub.gif i personally think camera is a personal thing. they should get the one they really like. maybe a voucher would be better laugh.gif
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jan 9 2015, 09:50 PM)
about extra battery, u should get external charger as well. thus u can charge 2 battery with camera and external charger at the same time (although i would recommend u to charge battery with external charger)
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Sony external charger aren't cheap... sad.gif
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caryn_eternal (lyn) selling genuine W(nex batt) Sony charger for RM100. PM her, said edpaul referral.

or u can try what eiraku did(previous thread) he order a few 3rd party charger from ebay, cheap and nice. u can PM him for more info for the chargers.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 9 2015, 06:57 PM)
Suddenly I remember that I haven't flashed the latest firmware for my A6k yet lololol... Sure it's just startup enhancements but...
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But for me to get control over aperture and everything while using the WiFi remote thingy, I need to update the firmware.

When I first try the PlayMemories apps I thought something is missing for the A6000. Then I discovered I can only use those features after updating my camera fw doh.gif

QUOTE(hyperx @ Jan 9 2015, 07:53 PM)
hi guys, want to get some of ur opinion
im looking for a camera, always love sony nex, but got no money to buy last time
i saw 1 shop sell a6000 for rm2150 with 2 batteries, 2 16gb memory and a bag
is it a good deal? or should wait for upcoming model?

im planning to buy a camera as part of the wedding gifts for wedding around sept this year..
shud i wait or buy now?
scared everyhing will become more expensive after this, with gst etcetc  sweat.gif
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shocking.gif RM2150 is body only or with kit lens? Free extra 2 batteries or 1 original in-box 1 extra?
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jan 9 2015, 09:50 PM)
about extra battery, u should get external charger as well. thus u can charge 2 battery with camera and external charger at the same time (although i would recommend u to charge battery with external charger)
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ic, will look into it, thanx

QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 9 2015, 09:53 PM)
wait after feb. after CP+, maybe launch new model.

any way, buy before april if you worry about GST.

but, as a wedding gift, why would you buy something like a camera?  rclxub.gif i personally think camera is a personal thing. they should get the one they really like. maybe a voucher would be better  laugh.gif
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thanx for the feedback
may i know what is CP+ ?

i think it is quite cheap considering it cost 2600-2700 when i saw it 2 weeks ago (i just did a random window shopping survey, not a thorough one)
never occured to me wanting to buy a6000 coz initially just aiming for a5000/5100

but become confused whether i should get it now or later..

so are they planning to come out with newer model in this short period time?

regarding why i choose camera? because we agreed that one of the wedding gift must be gadget.

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jan 9 2015, 11:10 PM)
shocking.gif RM2150 is body only or with kit lens? Free extra 2 batteries or 1 original in-box 1 extra?
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sorry for ur confusion. it is 1 original in-box and 1 extra battery sweat.gif
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QUOTE(hyperx @ Jan 9 2015, 11:13 PM)
ic, will look into it, thanx
thanx for the feedback
may i know what is CP+ ?

i think it is quite cheap considering it cost 2600-2700 when i saw it 2 weeks ago (i just did a random window shopping survey, not a thorough one)
never occured to me wanting to buy a6000 coz initially just aiming for a5000/5100

but become confused whether i should get it now or later..

so are they planning to come out with newer model in this short period time?

regarding why i choose camera? because we agreed that one of the wedding gift must be gadget.
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A5100 for selfie. But less buttons for control is a big NO NO for me.


biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Your own wedding or friend's wedding? September? Still long time to go eh...
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jan 9 2015, 11:18 PM)
A5100 for selfie. But less buttons for control is a big NO NO for me.
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Your own wedding or friend's wedding? September? Still long time to go eh...
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my own.
early preparation no harm right

haha like i said, i just did a window shopping previously
not planning to buy the camera right now
and never thought of getting a6000 because too expensive back then

but seeing current price for a6000 dropped so much, i wonder if now it is a good buy or not? and whether to buy it now or later?

thus asking the sifus opinion here laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hyperx @ Jan 9 2015, 11:26 PM)
my own.
early preparation no harm right

haha like i said, i just did a window shopping previously
not planning to buy the camera right now
and never thought of getting a6000 because too expensive back then

but seeing current price for a6000 dropped so much, i wonder if now it is a good buy or not? and whether to buy it now or later?

thus asking the sifus opinion here  laugh.gif
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vmad.gif vmad.gif I bought it for 984SGD.

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Nvm la... Nothing to say also... Buy and use in SG sure buy SG set better also la. Otherwise warranty also no time back M'sia claim.


biggrin.gif That's why got this kind of "agreement" la. If you want selfie then go for A5100 la biggrin.gif IQ wise it's very similar or can say is identical to A6000. It's just less expensive as it's targeted at the entry level user. No EVF, much lesser buttons for control etc. You get to have the 180 degree selfie screen though.
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many thanks bro. learn new things from you again today rclxms.gif

however, went to google around and the price for this setup can gimme nightmare...

Sony HVL-F20M MYR 470.00
Sony HVL-F43M MYR 999.00 x 2 = MYR 1998.00

Total = MYR 2468.00


huhuhuhu... any other cheaper solution out there? cry.gif

QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 9 2015, 04:21 PM)
This is the easiest solution with automatic flash metering:

Buy a HVL-F20M for the A7.

Buy 2 HVL-F43M flashes to trigger off-camera.

Set the A7 flash to wireless flash.

Press the Mode button on both HVL-F43M flashes until it says RMT.

You'll have wireless flash!
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QUOTE(hyperx @ Jan 9 2015, 11:13 PM)
ic, will look into it, thanx
thanx for the feedback
may i know what is CP+ ?

i think it is quite cheap considering it cost 2600-2700 when i saw it 2 weeks ago (i just did a random window shopping survey, not a thorough one)
never occured to me wanting to buy a6000 coz initially just aiming for a5000/5100

but become confused whether i should get it now or later..

so are they planning to come out with newer model in this short period time?

regarding why i choose camera? because we agreed that one of the wedding gift must be gadget.
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CP+

World premiere show CP+2015
www.cpplus.jp/en/
CP+, an international "comprehensive camera and photo imaging show," presents the latest products and technologies, all in order to help further the


they 'might' launch A7000, which make perfect sense for a6000 to drop price a little in feb after they launched a7000. even if they have no new model coming in feb, wait a little should be fine, price will always go down anyway.

but currently the price is good, and there is nothing wrong with current model, so if you really really want a new camera now, just go and get it.

if you love a5100 selfie function, go for it!.

(psst, gadget? ipad mini kind would be perfect , just imho biggrin.gif easier to sell too if they dont like it )
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Jan 10 2015, 01:01 AM)
many thanks bro. learn new things from you again today  rclxms.gif

however, went to google around and the price for this setup can gimme nightmare...

Sony HVL-F20M  MYR 470.00
Sony HVL-F43M MYR 999.00 x 2 = MYR 1998.00

Total = MYR 2468.00


huhuhuhu... any other cheaper solution out there?  cry.gif
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There is also a lower model - HVL-F32M but only Rm100 cheaper
wonder what is the difference
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There is also a lower model - HVL-F32M but only Rm100 cheaper
wonder what is the difference
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It's smaller, better fit for the mirrorless league. Unfortunately, it also has less features, and is overpriced at 699. The purchase with purchase price of about 500 is much better, but it only comes at that price occasionally.

For me, the best cheapie flash is still the Nissin i40, but that one sucks for wireless multi flash setups.
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QUOTE(hyperx @ Jan 9 2015, 07:53 PM)
hi guys, want to get some of ur opinion
im looking for a camera, always love sony nex, but got no money to buy last time
i saw 1 shop sell a6000 for rm2150 with 2 batteries, 2 16gb memory and a bag
is it a good deal? or should wait for upcoming model?

im planning to buy a camera as part of the wedding gifts for wedding around sept this year..
shud i wait or buy now?
scared everyhing will become more expensive after this, with gst etcetc  sweat.gif
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IMO wedding gift should be something that last?
A gadget will only last you for about few years, and btw if the deal is A6000+kitlens and other stuff u mentioned, its quite a nice deal thumbup.gif

if you're more of a point and shooter I'd suggest RX100 mk III
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Aww... Just noticed that I also got a scar on my A6000 top dial. Didn't notice it earlier. Should be from the same drop last week. Such a pain in my heart cry.gif So careful with all my gears... This is the first time I have a considerably more serious drop on my gadget sad.gif

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You guys got buy external chargers? Sony got three different models as follows -
BC-VW1, BC-TRW and BC-QM1
Wonder what you guys are using..? Mine is the old BC-VW1
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 10 2015, 06:38 PM)
You guys got buy external chargers? Sony got three different models as follows -
BC-VW1, BC-TRW and BC-QM1
Wonder what you guys are using..? Mine is the old BC-VW1
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I bought the 3rd party one, works fine so far for me
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QM1, bought during the member's promotion
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How much? I heard it is big but very fast charging
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Jan 10 2015, 01:01 AM)
many thanks bro. learn new things from you again today  rclxms.gif

however, went to google around and the price for this setup can gimme nightmare...

Sony HVL-F20M  MYR 470.00
Sony HVL-F43M MYR 999.00 x 2 = MYR 1998.00

Total = MYR 2468.00


huhuhuhu... any other cheaper solution out there?  cry.gif
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Go for 2nd hand cheaper... SONY 2nd hand item always cheapest compare other model coz less people use...
That's why i love sony n all my sony gears are 2nd hand...

QUOTE(NutZ748 @ Jan 10 2015, 06:04 PM)
IMO wedding gift should be something that last?
A gadget will only last you for about few years, and btw if the deal is A6000+kitlens and other stuff u mentioned, its quite a nice deal thumbup.gif

if you're more of a point and shooter I'd suggest RX100 mk III
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One of my wedding gift was a office shoes n last about 1 year only... laugh.gif
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How much? I heard it is big but very fast charging
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rm100. Ya, its bulky [the packaging still says portable travel size blink.gif ] even with fast charge off, it can charge a dead battery under 3 hour, has battery power indicator as well

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rm100. Ya, its bulky [the packaging still says portable travel size  blink.gif ] even with fast charge off, it can charge a dead battery under 3 hour, has battery power indicator as well
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Good deal bro. rclxms.gif
Did they have a demo A7ii there for testing?

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 10 2015, 05:12 PM)
Eh, the F43M is around RM800 street price lah. The F20M also can go cheaper.
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Aaa.. Much cheaper arr.. Great then!
Hv to look at other places...
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QUOTE(sitescope @ Jan 10 2015, 07:04 PM)
Go for 2nd hand cheaper... SONY 2nd hand item always cheapest compare other model coz less people use...
That's why i love sony n all my sony gears are 2nd hand...
One of my wedding gift was a office shoes n last about 1 year only... laugh.gif
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Tx for the advice bro. So far cant find any of the above model in 2nd hand.. Huhu... Market must be very gud.. Huhuhu..
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Which is the best inexpensive 50mm lens for a7?

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QUOTE(SourLemons @ Jan 10 2015, 08:03 PM)
Which is the best inexpensive 50mm lens for a7?
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Here's a rough breakdown. All assuming you want AF.

55/1.8 Zeiss E mount FE
50/2.0 Loxia E mount FE (edit: sorry this is manual focus)
50/1.4 A mount (Sony/Minolta) + LAEA4
50/1.7 A mount Minolta + LAEA4
50/1.4 Zeiss A mount + LAEA4/LAEA3
50/2.8 macro A mount + LAEA4

You might need to do a bit of research on their price in the open market yourself.

Anyone care to add into the list anything I might missed out?

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Good deal bro.  rclxms.gif
Did they have a demo A7ii there for testing?
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You guys got buy external chargers? Sony got three different models as follows -
BC-VW1, BC-TRW and BC-QM1
Wonder what you guys are using..? Mine is the old BC-VW1
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Thinking to get a mirrorless when $$$ permits - initially looking at Fuji X-T1 and now A7 price drop so nice, tempting to get the A7 instead. Furthermore it matches my main workhorse's megapixels.
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Tx for the advice bro. So far cant find any of the above model in 2nd hand.. Huhu... Market must be very gud.. Huhuhu..
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- LYN garage sales
- mudah.my
- alphanatic.com

I got mine frm 3 sites above...
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 10 2015, 10:06 PM)
Thinking to get a mirrorless when $$$ permits - initially looking at Fuji X-T1 and now A7 price drop so nice, tempting to get the A7 instead. Furthermore it matches my main workhorse's megapixels.
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Get the A7ii instead. Maybe Rm500-700 more
I wish A7ii comes with 4D AF

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 10 2015, 10:08 PM)
Get the A7ii instead. Maybe Rm500-700 more
I wish A7ii comes with 4D AF
you sure or not? I check price in USA market, they're some USD 400 apart, that comes to around RM 1.4k or so.
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you sure or not? I check price in USA market, they're some USD 400 apart, that comes to around RM 1.4k or so.
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Not sure. I'm still waiting for PMs to confirm
Cheapest I know for A7 is 3500. A7ii less than 4700 but not confirm exactly yet.
Ok maybe I calculated wrongly, maybe 1k more?
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biggrin.gif Well, it's a good thing I posted here, I thought A7II costs a lot more.

RM 1.4k apart, looks reasonable.

Have to budget for the Sony Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70mm f/4 ZA OSS Lens also, love the lens but quite defeats the purpose of a smaller setup.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 10 2015, 10:19 PM)
biggrin.gif Well, it's a good thing I posted here, I thought A7II costs a lot more.

RM 1.4k apart, looks reasonable.

Have to budget for the Sony Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70mm f/4 ZA OSS Lens also, love the lens but quite defeats the purpose of a smaller setup.
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Was about to ask which first lens will you buy for it. biggrin.gif
24-70 was my initial choice and 55mm was my last choice. Now I'm thinking I will get the 55mm first. sweat.gif
The thing is the moment I buy the A7ii, they will announce the A7iii with 4D AF laugh.gif

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 10 2015, 10:19 PM)
biggrin.gif Well, it's a good thing I posted here, I thought A7II costs a lot more.

RM 1.4k apart, looks reasonable.

Have to budget for the Sony Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70mm f/4 ZA OSS Lens also, love the lens but quite defeats the purpose of a smaller setup.
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A77 Mark II is around 4699 ( If you can find stock )

55mm f1,8 FE is super sweet lens....

And the 24-70 is pretty light, surprisingly.
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i am not interested in SLT.

If I were to get an SLT it would be A99.
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biggrin.gif Well, it's a good thing I posted here, I thought A7II costs a lot more.

RM 1.4k apart, looks reasonable.

Have to budget for the Sony Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70mm f/4 ZA OSS Lens also, love the lens but quite defeats the purpose of a smaller setup.
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ehhhh thought you have d750 already?
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I have the Nikon D750. I'm just exploring the option to have a "light weight" and possibly "compact" setup.
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I have the Nikon D750. I'm just exploring the option to have a "light weight" and possibly "compact" setup.
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I have the Nikon D750. I'm just exploring the option to have a "light weight" and possibly "compact" setup.
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oh yeah that one, super nice compact stuff. tried it at Sony Center, love it until I saw the price tag. tongue.gif
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i am not interested in SLT.

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A7II is mirrorless la, not SLT.
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A7II is mirrorless la, not SLT.
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I was referring to A7 Mark II at 4699, not A77 mark II

I did refer to the 55 F1,8 FE so I thought you got my drift.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 10 2015, 11:22 PM)
oh yeah that one, super nice compact stuff. tried it at Sony Center, love it until I saw the price tag. tongue.gif
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biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Yeah... The price tag...

Same goes for RX100. Good stuff but it costs about the same as A6000+Kit Lens. From review I read, it's actually better than A6000+Kit lens combo on sharpness and IQ thingy biggrin.gif Put on a different lens then different story biggrin.gif

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A7 Mark II is not a SLT then?  laugh.gif
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SLT stands for Single Lens Translucent.

It means having a translucent glass/mirror that transmit 70% light to the sensor and 30% light to the AF sensor (if I remember the figures correctly) in order to achieve fast AF even in live view.

Sony mirrorless cameras (ILCE) as its name says... It has totally no mirror. Same goes to M43/Nikon 1/EOS M etc... So... How can an A7 II be a SLT when it doesn't have a mirror?

Unless you put on LA-EA4 on A7 and call it a SLT then I accept la tongue.gif LA-EA4 adds the missing translucent mirror biggrin.gif

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Done a rough test (count by heart test biggrin.gif ) on my Sony free 16GB Class 10 UHS-1 40MB/s card and my new Samsung Evo MicroSD 16GB Class 10 UHS-1 48MB/s card.


Take note... Count by heart...

On Samsung, 24 shots burst took ~9 seconds to clear (till red light off)
On Sony, 22 shots burst took ~30 seconds to clear (till red light off)

How can it be such a huge difference on similarly rated card? doh.gif doh.gif
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On Samsung, 24 shots burst took ~9 seconds to clear (till red light off)
On Sony, 22 shots burst took ~30 seconds to clear (till red light off)
RAW or JPG?

Make sure you use manual mode and set ISO / shutter / aperture to fixed figure, after that take note of the total size.
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jan 11 2015, 01:17 AM)
Done a rough test (count by heart test biggrin.gif ) on my Sony free 16GB Class 10 UHS-1 40MB/s card and my new Samsung Evo MicroSD 16GB Class 10 UHS-1 48MB/s card.
Take note... Count by heart...

On Samsung, 24 shots burst took ~9 seconds to clear (till red light off)
On Sony, 22 shots burst took ~30 seconds to clear (till red light off)

How can it be such a huge difference on similarly rated card? doh.gif doh.gif
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All cards are sold by their read speed, which is usually faster than their write speed.

Upon roughly Googling around, the Samsung has 20MB/s write and the Sony, 10MB/s write.

I use the SanDisk Extreme Pro UHS-I 95MB/s. Its write speed is 90MB/s. Most other easily-found cards have much lousier write speeds, though.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 11 2015, 01:51 AM)
RAW or JPG?

Make sure you use manual mode and set ISO / shutter / aperture to fixed figure, after that take note of the total size.
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JPG only, I'm shooting in Manual. Anyway, the file size won't be of so huge different that the write time is almost 3 times different right? Not to say that I actually taken less shot when tested with the given card. Hand not accurate enough to stop holding on to the shutter after the same number of shot. Blame that 11fps tongue.gif

QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 11 2015, 01:59 AM)
All cards are sold by their read speed, which is usually faster than their write speed.

Upon roughly Googling around, the Samsung has 20MB/s write and the Sony, 10MB/s write.

I use the SanDisk Extreme Pro UHS-I 95MB/s. Its write speed is 90MB/s. Most other easily-found cards have much lousier write speeds, though.
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Yes I know that for low end card only read speed is advertised but they must also fulfil at least the rated class (Class 10 for ex.) right?

I don't have tools to measure their actual write speed but seriously the cheap Evo simply outperform the free card, significantly!

Even my class 4 micro sd feels faster than the Sony card doh.gif What's wrong? Time to dump the free card. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 11 2015, 01:59 AM)
All cards are sold by their read speed, which is usually faster than their write speed.

Upon roughly Googling around, the Samsung has 20MB/s write and the Sony, 10MB/s write.

I use the SanDisk Extreme Pro UHS-I 95MB/s. Its write speed is 90MB/s. Most other easily-found cards have much lousier write speeds, though.
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Exactly. Numbers on the pack are usually only read speed. Unless stated, expect the write speed to be considerably worse. And that's not even the half of it, similarly rated "write speed" cards have differing performance too - thus is the fun when it comes to selecting memory cards. That said brand names like Sandisk, Toshiba, Lexar, Samsung are usually more than fine.

And yeah, a class 10 doing 10mb/s is easily meeting the class requirement. What you want is at least a U1 UHS card, which writes usually higher than 20mb/s (though U1 class speed reqs is actually still just 10mb/s write as well). Though I've seen U1 cards with 9mb/s write speeds before.

U3 UHS is even better, as it will come with 30mb/s min just to get the U3 rating.

The easiest way is to get cards which *actually* advertise their write speeds on the packaging, like Sandisk and Toshiba - which does so for both their microSD and SD lines.

TBH, anything over 60mb/s write is actually quite overkill for our cameras, not sure but IINM they can't fully utilise 90mb/s write anyway. 48mb/s is usually good enough though.

Anything lower though, would be quite noticeable when it comes to writing from the buffer, especially on the A6k with its extremely fast burst rate.

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jan 11 2015, 03:43 AM)
JPG only, I'm shooting in Manual. Anyway, the file size won't be of so huge different that the write time is almost 3 times different right? Not to say that I actually taken less shot when tested with the given card. Hand not accurate enough to stop holding on to the shutter after the same number of shot. Blame that 11fps tongue.gif
Yes I know that for low end card only read speed is advertised but they must also fulfil at least the rated class (Class 10 for ex.) right?

I don't have tools to measure their actual write speed but seriously the cheap Evo simply outperform the free card, significantly!

Even my class 4 micro sd feels faster than the Sony card doh.gif What's wrong? Time to dump the free card. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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JPG file size can make a big difference. Some camera shoots only 2mb to 5mb jpg while some can produce 20mb jpgs.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Jan 11 2015, 03:47 AM)
JPG file size can make a big difference. Some camera shoots only 2mb to 5mb jpg while some can produce 20mb jpgs.
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Same Sony A6000 la... Shooting same subject similar lighting similar exposure settings.

Deviation also at most 1~2MB right?


Actually I don't use burst much. Getting faster card mainly for the single shot buffer clearing time.

Sony disallow us to change setting or go into playback while the card is still writing (clearing buffer).

With the free card, sometimes I have to wait for 1~2 second before I can get into playback. The other day I just put in the Class 4 4GB microsd + adaptor and I immediately noticed the difference. After that I bought the Samsung and yes it's very similar. That means it's just the Sony is doing weird. One photo at max 7MB yet it can't get it cleared as soon as the picture is taken? I doubt it even fulfil the Class 10 rating. doh.gif
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jan 11 2015, 03:54 AM)
Same Sony A6000 la... Shooting same subject similar lighting similar exposure settings.

Deviation also at most 1~2MB right?
Actually I don't use burst much. Getting faster card mainly for the single shot buffer clearing time.

Sony disallow us to change setting or go into playback while the card is still writing (clearing buffer).

With the free card, sometimes I have to wait for 1~2 second before I can get into playback. The other day I just put in the Class 4 4GB microsd + adaptor and I immediately noticed the difference. After that I bought the Samsung and yes it's very similar. That means it's just the Sony is doing weird. One photo at max 7MB yet it can't get it cleared as soon as the picture is taken? I doubt it even fulfil the Class 10 rating. doh.gif
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It actually might pass class 10, for certain types of data writing (maybe sequential). The types of data writing that the camera is *not* doing.

Sony cards haven't been known to be in the top performing bracket in its speed classes to begin with really so it's actually not a surprise. I mean, they don't even make their own flash chips.

When it comes to flash memory, it's usually better to stay with brand names that actually manufactures their own chips like Sandisk, Toshiba or Samsung.

Sure, the speed rating is there, but like I said before, that speed rating usually only applies to a very specific data writing activities; and varies greatly amongst brands.

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jan 11 2015, 03:54 AM)
Same Sony A6000 la... Shooting same subject similar lighting similar exposure settings.

Deviation also at most 1~2MB right?
Actually I don't use burst much. Getting faster card mainly for the single shot buffer clearing time.

Sony disallow us to change setting or go into playback while the card is still writing (clearing buffer).

With the free card, sometimes I have to wait for 1~2 second before I can get into playback. The other day I just put in the Class 4 4GB microsd + adaptor and I immediately noticed the difference. After that I bought the Samsung and yes it's very similar. That means it's just the Sony is doing weird. One photo at max 7MB yet it can't get it cleared as soon as the picture is taken? I doubt it even fulfil the Class 10 rating. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 11 2015, 03:47 AM)
Exactly. Numbers on the pack are usually only read speed. Unless stated, expect the write speed to be considerably worse. And that's not even the half of it, similarly rated "write speed" cards have differing performance too - thus is the fun when it comes to selecting memory cards. That said brand names like Sandisk, Toshiba, Lexar, Samsung are usually more than fine.

And yeah, a class 10 doing 10mb/s is easily meeting the class requirement. What you want is at least a U1 UHS card, which writes usually higher than 20mb/s (though U1 class speed reqs is actually still just 10mb/s write as well). Though I've seen U1 cards with 9mb/s write speeds before.

U3 UHS is even better, as it will come with 30mb/s min just to get the U3 rating.

The easiest way is to get cards which *actually* advertise their write speeds on the packaging, like Sandisk and Toshiba - which does so for both their microSD and SD lines.

TBH, anything over 60mb/s write is actually quite overkill for our cameras, not sure but IINM they can't fully utilise 90mb/s write anyway. 48mb/s is usually good enough though.

Anything lower though, would be quite noticeable when it comes to writing from the buffer, especially on the A6k with its extremely fast burst rate.
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anyway, guys,

go here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital

read the part it says "Real-World Performance" there is 3 points that explain why different speed among brands and designs.
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BTW, apparently MB/s and mbps is totally different. Megabytes and megabits. I don't even wanna go there but IINM 30MB/s = 240mbps. Funny right?

But yeah, like I said, just get from reputable brands (that make their own chips especially) that actually give you write and read speed ratings and you'l be fine lol. Reviews help too, and penny pinching usually doesn't pay much when it comes to getting decent cards.

And yeah, it's a free card. And even if Sony is a good brand name in general, they're not really well known for good SD cards. Even their 90mb/s card aren't as fast as my similarly specced Toshie.

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jan 11 2015, 01:17 AM)
Done a rough test (count by heart test biggrin.gif ) on my Sony free 16GB Class 10 UHS-1 40MB/s card and my new Samsung Evo MicroSD 16GB Class 10 UHS-1 48MB/s card.
Take note... Count by heart...

On Samsung, 24 shots burst took ~9 seconds to clear (till red light off)
On Sony, 22 shots burst took ~30 seconds to clear (till red light off)

How can it be such a huge difference on similarly rated card? doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 11 2015, 04:20 AM)
BTW, apparently MB/s and mbps is totally different. Megabytes and megabits. I don't even wanna go there but IINM 30MB/s = 240mbps. Funny right?

But yeah, like I said, just get from reputable brands (that make their own chips especially) that actually give you write and read speed ratings and you'l be fine lol. Reviews help too, and penny pinching usually doesn't pay much when it comes to getting decent cards.

And yeah, it's a free card. And even if Sony is a good brand name in general, they're not really well known for good SD cards. Even their 90mb/s card aren't as fast as my similarly specced Toshie.
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Ordered 3 Exceria cards from IPMart, been days and haven't been shipped yet sad.gif

By the way, big B = Byte, small b = bit.

I currently have a 8GB SanDisk Extreme Pro with 95MB read and 90MB write.

Tested this with my A7M2. Shoot drive on Continuous High, shutter speed 1/250. One test with RAW, another with Extra Fine JPG.
  1. Formatted the card, took 27 RAW shots before it starts to slow down. Took approx 13.5 sec before the red led is cleared. 1 RAW is approx 23.5 to 23.8mb.
  2. Formatted the card, took 55 EXTRA FINE JPG shots before it starts to slow down. Took approx 26.3 sec before the red led is cleared. 1 EXTRA FINE JPG is approx 15.4mb to 15.5mb.
Pretty safe to assume the card reader in A7M2 can only write around 40MB/s. So it is pointless to get cards rated higher than that.

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I saw in Lazada one unit selling at Rm2568
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 11 2015, 04:02 AM)
It actually might pass class 10, for certain types of data writing (maybe sequential). The types of data writing that the camera is *not* doing.

Sony cards haven't been known to be in the top performing bracket in its speed classes to begin with really so it's actually not a surprise. I mean, they don't even make their own flash chips.

When it comes to flash memory, it's usually better to stay with brand names that actually manufactures their own chips like Sandisk, Toshiba or Samsung.

Sure, the speed rating is there, but like I said before, that speed rating usually only applies to a very specific data writing activities; and varies greatly amongst brands.
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Normally rated by sequential read/write. It it's random read/write it will be far worse haha...

It feels like it doesn't even hit 10MB/s

QUOTE(Silverfire @ Jan 11 2015, 04:06 AM)
No, I mean the output jpg of both camera. The Sony and the Samsung.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 11 2015, 04:20 AM)
BTW, apparently MB/s and mbps is totally different. Megabytes and megabits. I don't even wanna go there but IINM 30MB/s = 240mbps. Funny right?

But yeah, like I said, just get from reputable brands (that make their own chips especially) that actually give you write and read speed ratings and you'l be fine lol. Reviews help too, and penny pinching usually doesn't pay much when it comes to getting decent cards.

And yeah, it's a free card. And even if Sony is a good brand name in general, they're not really well known for good SD cards. Even their 90mb/s card aren't as fast as my similarly specced Toshie.
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Ya I know about the bit and byte thing. For a class rated card, it should give minimum the transfer rate in the class number in MB/s (eg. Class 10 minimum 10MB/s).

Ya... Freebie no good thing.

QUOTE(Silverfire @ Jan 11 2015, 05:33 AM)
Ordered 3 Exceria cards from IPMart, been days and haven't been shipped yet sad.gif

By the way, big B = Byte, small b = bit.

I currently have a 8GB SanDisk Extreme Pro with 95MB read and 90MB write.

Tested this with my A7M2. Shoot drive on Continuous High, shutter speed 1/250. One test with RAW, another with Extra Fine JPG.



  1. Formatted the card, took 27 RAW shots before it starts to slow down. Took approx 13.5 sec before the red led is cleared. 1 RAW is approx 23.5 to 23.8mb.

  2. Formatted the card, took 55 EXTRA FINE JPG shots before it starts to slow down. Took approx 26.3 sec before the red led is cleared. 1 EXTRA FINE JPG is approx 15.4mb to 15.5mb.

Pretty safe to assume the card reader in A7M2 can only write around 40MB/s. So it is pointless to get cards rated higher than that.
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Exceria is rare in Malaysia biggrin.gif

OMG nice thin dof. Hard to get with apsc sad.gif need to go for real fast lens at that distance.

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What is the lowest price you all have come across on the 55mm f1.8 so far?
I saw in Lazada one unit selling at Rm2568
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RM2568 is quite cheap. Sony klcc member's day last thurs offered 20% that bring the lens cost to rm2.6k.

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I saw in Lazada one unit selling at Rm2568
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during the member day, 1 of my friend had bought SEL55F18Z with RM2559 and they extended another 1 year warranty for free
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during the member day, 1 of my friend had bought SEL55F18Z with RM2559 and they extended another 1 year warranty for free
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 11 2015, 09:20 AM)
BTW, apparently MB/s and mbps is totally different. Megabytes and megabits. I don't even wanna go there but IINM 30MB/s = 240mbps. Funny right?


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8 bits = 1 byte.. that is digital. I can be confusing and that is where the uninitiated user gets taken for a ride.. same goes to your WiFi guaranteed speed

if you want to get more confused

16 bits = 1 word or 2 bytes..


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i am not interested in SLT.

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Ordered 3 Exceria cards from IPMart, been days and haven't been shipped yet sad.gif

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what lens used in these shots? thanks!
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what lens used in these shots? thanks!
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Voigtlander 40mm f1.4 VM tongue.gif
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Beautiful color rendering. Your "unhealthy friend" using a walking stick?
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Exceria is rare in Malaysia biggrin.gif
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Actually All IT Hypermart branches all have stocks of Toshie Exceria in SD AND micro. Lelong got too, slightly cheaper as well.

But yeah, not as easy to find as Sammy or Sandy. Those gerai phone shops also have.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 11 2015, 04:50 PM)
Actually All IT Hypermart branches all have stocks of Toshie Exceria in SD AND micro. Lelong got too, slightly cheaper as well.

But yeah, not as easy to find as Sammy or Sandy. Those gerai phone shops also have.
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Exceria is toshiba premium range? Then I think I saw some in Lowyat. Not many models/capacity to choose from though.
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Exceria is toshiba premium range? Then I think I saw some in Lowyat. Not many models/capacity to choose from though.
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what reason you pick 40mm and not 35mm version? also why you did not pick the samyang 35mm? hmm.gif ...
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what reason you pick 40mm and not 35mm version? also why you did not pick the samyang 35mm?  hmm.gif ...
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Jan 11 2015, 05:15 PM)
Just FYI, SanDisk and Toshiba shares fabrication plant smile.gif
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After doing some google search... Now I know Sandisk is fabless company. So... Theoretically it doesn't manufacture its own chip. It designs and so but the manufacturing part is by another party like Toshiba. hmm.gif That's kinda new to me biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Anyway... What I care more is really single shot performance. The free card is really slow that it affects the single shot performance. I have already noticed that the first two~three weeks I use the camera. Not until last week I suddenly popped up with the idea to put another SD card in and then I discovered the truth doh.gif



Btw... Last week was the first time for me to cover a small (real small) event. A friend's proposal. They're no expert and never engaged professional ones to do the job. The guy just said let the guys do the job and so I had to do it.

In very poor lighting, I had to shoot with auto iso capped at 6400 or with built-in flash. I have to say the pictures aren't really so good to my liking. An external flash or a Sony A7S ( tongue.gif ) should do the job much better. But still there're quite a number usable ones. Done some adjustment/crop and they seem to like the photos. Anyway these photos will only be shown during their wedding, part of their wedding video probably, no one will probably pixel peep so I guess everything is alright.

It's really struggling having to cover those moments in a dark lighting with nothing else but the A6000 with Kit Lens. If only I have a faster lens/flash gun/full frame... Good experience though tongue.gif

That's also the place I bloody dropped my camera. Leaving scars on an one-month old camera ain't really so pleasing to my heart cry.gif doh.gif Can't help but to keep mentioning. Looking at the camera now is a pain biggrin.gif
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EDIT: Time to throw my mouse doh.gif Sorry for double post

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After doing some google search... Now I know Sandisk is fabless company. So... Theoretically it doesn't manufacture its own chip. It designs and so but the manufacturing part is by another party like Toshiba. hmm.gif That's kinda new to me biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Anyway... What I care more is really single shot performance. The free card is really slow that it affects the single shot performance. I have already noticed that the first two~three weeks I use the camera. Not until last week I suddenly popped up with the idea to put another SD card in and then I discovered the truth doh.gif
Btw... Last week was the first time for me to cover a small (real small) event. A friend's proposal. They're no expert and never engaged professional ones to do the job. The guy just said let the guys do the job and so I had to do it.

In very poor lighting, I had to shoot with auto iso capped at 6400 or with built-in flash. I have to say the pictures aren't really so good to my liking. An external flash or a Sony A7S ( tongue.gif ) should do the job much better. But still there're quite a number usable ones. Done some adjustment/crop and they seem to like the photos. Anyway these photos will only be shown during their wedding, part of their wedding video probably, no one will probably pixel peep so I guess everything is alright.

It's really struggling having to cover those moments in a dark lighting with nothing else but the A6000 with Kit Lens. If only I have a faster lens/flash gun/full frame... Good experience though tongue.gif

That's also the place I bloody dropped my camera. Leaving scars on an one-month old camera ain't really so pleasing to my heart cry.gif doh.gif Can't help but to keep mentioning. Looking at the camera now is a pain biggrin.gif
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It's time for f20s...
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It's time for f20s...
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Will probably grab the i40 instead. RM500 only for so much features it offers tongue.gif

With built-in video light lagi. I don't think I will be playing with wireless flash photography that soon so not really have to begin with Sony own flash guns.

Video light if not used for video maybe will use it for photo. Should be quite fun to use.


Also higher guide number than any other flash you can buy at that price point. biggrin.gif

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It's time for f20s...
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suppose is F20M. btw, with RM499 to get F20M, some ppl would go for nissin i40. some ppl will think F43M is too heavy for mirrorless camera
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nissin i40 FTW.
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Seconded... Especially if you only need one flashgun and don't plan to go all strobist.

If you wanna go all CLS, then the new F32M when they offer it on sale again... Even then a tad more steep, but it gives you a chance to go all wireless, is not as huge as the F43M and is not as simple as the F20M.

At normal MSRP, the F32M is woefully overpriced though.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 12 2015, 03:33 AM)
Seconded... Especially if you only need one flashgun and don't plan to go all strobist.

If you wanna go all CLS, then the new F32M when they offer it on sale again... Even then a tad more steep, but it gives you a chance to go all wireless, is not as huge as the F43M and is not as simple as the F20M.

At normal MSRP, the F32M is woefully overpriced though.
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Can the nissin be controlled by Sony flash wirelessly?From what I read it should support Sony RMT hmm.gif
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Can the nissin be controlled by Sony flash wirelessly?From what I read it should support Sony RMT hmm.gif
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You'll need a F20M ler for that... Our A6k lacks a built-in wireless commander function, and "wireless" under the flash menu remains locked until you put on a Sony flash able of commanding: at least the F20M.

For the A7 series, I dunno as IINM they have wireless commander functions built in. But I have heard that making the i40 work with the A7's built in flash is a PITA.

How it actually works with a Sony flash I have no idea. But IINM it will be simple wireless flash TTL.

BUT: The i40 has an optical slave, meaning it can be fired in manual mode by our built-in flash. Not as sophisticated as full on wireless flash but its better than nothing lol, as long as you know how to play with the flash ratio.

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 12 2015, 07:59 AM)
You'll need a F20M ler for that... Our A6k lacks a built-in wireless commander function, and "wireless" under the flash menu remains locked until you put on a Sony flash able of commanding: at least the F20M.

For the A7 series, I dunno as IINM they have wireless commander functions built in. But I have heard that making the i40 work with the A7's built in flash is a PITA.

How it actually works with a Sony flash I have no idea. But IINM it will be simple wireless flash TTL.

BUT: The i40 has an optical slave, meaning it can be fired in manual mode by our built-in flash. Not as sophisticated as full on wireless flash but its better than nothing lol, as long as you know how to play with the flash ratio.
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That's what I was saying.

Control by "Sony flash".

So I cannot control the flash power for the Nissin through the camera even with a Sony flash on?

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Anyway I will probably still get the Nissin first. Worst case next time get Sony flash then this nissin use as optical slave tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 11 2015, 03:47 AM)
TBH, anything over 60mb/s write is actually quite overkill for our cameras, not sure but IINM they can't fully utilise 90mb/s write anyway. 48mb/s is usually good enough though.
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Er, not if you shoot RAW. Especially noticeable on the A99 as a bunch of us have tested before. The 95MB/s read, 90MB/s write shows a real improvement in buffer clearing time over the 45MB/s read, 45MB/s write one.
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what kind of wireless flash trigger compatible with sony a7 and F42AM(attached to ADP-MAA adapter)..
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You could just get the HVL-F20M, mount it on the A7, and trigger the F42AM off-camera, without using the ADP-MAA adapter.
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jan 11 2015, 07:46 PM)
After doing some google search... Now I know Sandisk is fabless company. So... Theoretically it doesn't manufacture its own chip. It designs and so but the manufacturing part is by another party like Toshiba. hmm.gif That's kinda new to me biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Anyway... What I care more is really single shot performance. The free card is really slow that it affects the single shot performance. I have already noticed that the first two~three weeks I use the camera. Not until last week I suddenly popped up with the idea to put another SD card in and then I discovered the truth doh.gif
Btw... Last week was the first time for me to cover a small (real small) event. A friend's proposal. They're no expert and never engaged professional ones to do the job. The guy just said let the guys do the job and so I had to do it.

In very poor lighting, I had to shoot with auto iso capped at 6400 or with built-in flash. I have to say the pictures aren't really so good to my liking. An external flash or a Sony A7S ( tongue.gif ) should do the job much better. But still there're quite a number usable ones. Done some adjustment/crop and they seem to like the photos. Anyway these photos will only be shown during their wedding, part of their wedding video probably, no one will probably pixel peep so I guess everything is alright.

It's really struggling having to cover those moments in a dark lighting with nothing else but the A6000 with Kit Lens. If only I have a faster lens/flash gun/full frame... Good experience though tongue.gif

That's also the place I bloody dropped my camera. Leaving scars on an one-month old camera ain't really so pleasing to my heart cry.gif doh.gif Can't help but to keep mentioning. Looking at the camera now is a pain biggrin.gif
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You could use your finger to hold the pop-up flash upwards, or DIY your own version of this:

http://beforethecoffee.com/bounce-cards-fo...00-nex-6-nex-7/
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 12 2015, 07:59 AM)
You'll need a F20M ler for that... Our A6k lacks a built-in wireless commander function, and "wireless" under the flash menu remains locked until you put on a Sony flash able of commanding: at least the F20M.

For the A7 series, I dunno as IINM they have wireless commander functions built in. But I have heard that making the i40 work with the A7's built in flash is a PITA.

How it actually works with a Sony flash I have no idea. But IINM it will be simple wireless flash TTL.

BUT: The i40 has an optical slave, meaning it can be fired in manual mode by our built-in flash. Not as sophisticated as full on wireless flash but its better than nothing lol, as long as you know how to play with the flash ratio.
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Sony retains that long-standing record of not having a pop-up flash on any of their full-frame models.

A900, A850, A99, A7, A7R, A7S, A7MII, and even the Cybershot DSC-RX1 and RX1R!
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jan 11 2015, 07:46 PM)
After doing some google search... Now I know Sandisk is fabless company. So... Theoretically it doesn't manufacture its own chip. It designs and so but the manufacturing part is by another party like Toshiba. hmm.gif That's kinda new to me biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
eehhh..... Sandisk don't manufacture own chip???
Last week I just met my old friend back from oversea, he told me he have involved a project in Sandisk China manufacturing plant to reduce manufacturing cost of wafer separation!
If they don't have own factory to manufacture then is very strange!

..........


For flash, i40 is the best value for money and super easy to use.
I have the F43M only used in one workshop then after i got i40 the F43M is only sitting at home. doh.gif

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Sony retains that long-standing record of not having a pop-up flash on any of their full-frame models.

A900, A850, A99, A7, A7R, A7S, A7MII, and even the Cybershot DSC-RX1 and RX1R!
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A7 no pop up eh? I forgot, havent played with one for a while lol. Disregard what I said about it then.

That said it's quite a shame. Hopefully when they *finally* make a RF styled FF cam, a built in flash is included - with or without wireless flash command capabilities. It's tiny and frequently useless yes, but having one always beats not having one in a pinch.

RX-78-2 Sandisk actually shares fabs with Toshiba. Not sure how the arrangement is though, a JV prolly. That said I do think that outside the JV, Sandisk does have it's own fabs, but not as many as you would think.

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eehhh..... Sandisk don't manufacture own chip???
Last week I just met my old friend back from oversea, he told me he have involved a project in Sandisk China manufacturing plant to reduce manufacturing cost of wafer separation!
If they don't have own factory to manufacture then is very strange!

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For flash, i40 is the best value for money and super easy to use.
I have the F43M only used in one workshop then after i got i40 the F43M is only sitting at home.  doh.gif
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hehe... Where buy i40 cheapest?
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Will probably grab the i40 instead.
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Guys I need some help, I am not sure my B+W filter is genuine or not, but i have a few test shots about the ghosting that created by the filter... Is the normal with a genuine B+W filter? Or i should go for a T* coated filter to avoid the ghosting/flare?

Test shot 1
Without the filter (Zeiss 55 1.8 @ 2.8)
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Test shot 2
With the filter (Zeiss 55 1.8 @ 2.8)
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Guys I need some help, I am not sure my B+W filter is genuine or not, but i have a few test shots about the ghosting that created by the filter... Is the normal with a genuine B+W filter? Or i should go for a T* coated filter to avoid the ghosting/flare?

Test shot 1
Without the filter (Zeiss 55 1.8 @ 2.8)

Test shot 2
With the filter (Zeiss 55 1.8 @ 2.8)
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I dunno about it being ori or not, but IMHO all filters, however good the coatings are, will end up degrading your pics to one point or another - ghosting and flare being the most apparent.

And really, at that size I can't even see any difference between with and without filters. Which means whatever filter you're using, it's pretty good already.

Trust me, I've seen much, much worse.

And why not the latest Marumi and Hoya stuff? Sure it's not B+W or Zeiss, but last I checked the coatings on their top end ain't that bad either.

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I dunno about it being ori or not, but IMHO all filters, however good the coatings are, will end up degrading your pics to one point or another - ghosting and flare being the most apparent.

And really, at that size I can't even see any difference between with and without filters. Which means whatever filter you're using, it's pretty good already.

Trust me, I've seen much, much worse.

And why not the latest Marumi and Hoya stuff? Sure it's not B+W or Zeiss, but last I checked the coatings on their top end ain't that bad either.

As for me, I use 2nd hand Pro1D stuff at RM15-20 a pop lol. A shame I actually have to go back to Nakano to get more.
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i got that just because I love the feel of the brass ring...but seems like the ghosting are just too noticable. I might ditch away the filters... maybe all these time I had a flare problem with my Rokinon 85 1.4 might be the problem of the filter (because i never removed it since Day 1 I got it)
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i got that just because I love the feel of the brass ring...but seems like the ghosting are just too noticable. I might ditch away the filters... maybe all these time I had a flare problem with my Rokinon 85 1.4 might be the problem of the filter (because i never removed it since Day 1 I got it)
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Coatings wise, T* should have an edge in clarity, not sure about flare/ghosting resistance. Unfortunately, even if you scour the net for reviews, filters are really a subjective thing as everyone shoots differently.

What might be crystal clear to one reviewer might me flare city to you due to the way you shoot and what you're shooting.

That said, top end stuff from Hoya/Kenko/Marumi/Zeiss should do well enough, but a piece of RM300 glass in front of a 3k lens is still just that, after all.

For me if it flares/ghosts too badly, just remove the filter ler for that particular shot. Afterwards put it back on. The protective value of a filter is still, for me, high enough not to run around with my front element naked unless needed.

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 12 2015, 04:01 PM)
Coatings wise, T* should have an edge in clarity, not sure about flare/ghosting resistance. Unfortunately, even if you scour the net for reviews, filters are really a subjective thing as everyone shoots differently.

What might be crystal clear to one reviewer might me flare city to you due to the way you shoot and what you're shooting.

That said, top end stuff from Hoya/Kenko/Marumi/Zeiss should do well enough, but a piece of RM300 glass in front of a 3k lens is still just that, after all.

For me if it flares/ghosts too badly, just remove the filter ler for that particular shot. Afterwards put it back on. The protective value of a filter is still, for me, high enough not to run around with my front element naked unless needed.
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True... I think my choice would be just remove the filter because both 2 lenses with the filters I have had recessed front element and comes with a hood.
Thanks for the help tho biggrin.gif
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Of course trust your friend la. I only Google mah. Your friend insider sure know more la biggrin.gif

hehe... Where buy i40 cheapest?
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http://www.dailycameranews.com/2015/01/son...+Camera+News%29

Full-frame E-mount series will be updated with an entry-level (Sony A5) and a flagship (Sony A9) model  in mid-February.
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A9 as second body? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(NutZ748 @ Jan 12 2015, 08:05 PM)
Guys I need some help, I am not sure my B+W filter is genuine or not, but i have a few test shots about the ghosting that created by the filter... Is the normal with a genuine B+W filter? Or i should go for a T* coated filter to avoid the ghosting/flare?

Test shot 1
Without the filter (Zeiss 55 1.8 @ 2.8)
user posted image

Test shot 2
With the filter (Zeiss 55 1.8 @ 2.8)
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under some extreme conditions like the test shot you have taken.. ghosting will appear...

I have such a similar issue with zeiss lens on zeiss filters. Matter of changing the shoot angle.. taking off the filter is one way but situation is quite rare that I encounter such situation.. I will still put my eggs on the basket with filters .. not funny when you see stain marks on the lens and you have to clean it on the field.


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Full-frame E-mount series will be updated with an entry-level (Sony A5) and a flagship (Sony A9) model  in mid-February.
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Which means......... the A6 model name is reserved for my sweet little yet to come rangefinder style FF camera... Mmmmmm.

I'm calling it... A6 by mid-year 2015 woohoo! That + the FE28 and I'm all set - even sans 5-axis IBIS, Sony can take all my monies just by stuffing an FF sensor into an A6k body, preferably with a built in flash.

Which, looking at the rate Sony seems to be cranking them out, seems nigh inevitable.

Until then, I'm just gonna stew and take more pics with my A6k.

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Better start saving for that new "cheap" FF E-mount body.
A6K for it's 11fps. That new FF for...hmm.. FF stuff I guess. tongue.gif
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Better start saving for that new "cheap" FF E-mount body.
A6K for it's 11fps. That new FF for...hmm.. FF stuff I guess. tongue.gif
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TBH, I don't really even use 11FPS... or the much vaunted hybrid AF. I'm usually stuck on *low* continuous shooting with single-shot AF (on a non PDAF lens summore).

I'm just totally in love with the size and stealth of the A6k. And *that* plus the razor thin DOF of FF = bokehlicious stealth cam.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 13 2015, 09:48 AM)
TBH, I don't really even use 11FPS... or the much vaunted hybrid AF. I'm usually stuck on *low* continuous shooting with single-shot AF (on a non PDAF lens summore).

I'm just totally in love with the size and stealth of the A6k. And *that* plus the razor thin DOF of FF = bokehlicious stealth cam.
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I need those thing when I'm trackside shooting people's trackday session.
11fps and hybrid AF really shines there, especially when I'm shooting drag racing.
Different people different use. Right?

But I still dreams of owning an FF body someday. Can't afford to own any A7 and it's family members now.
Now Sony hints out a cheaper and smaller FF body, I'm excited. nod.gif
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i only want to know when will they come out with a A7iii with 4D AF
probably the moment i buy the A7ii sad.gif
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Ordered 3 Exceria cards from IPMart, been days and haven't been shipped yet sad.gif
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This one?
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Got fake ones or not? I sked of buying Sandisk already from locally. Manyak fake ones.
cheapest of the one in the picture i saw was Rm202 but sked fake only
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Anyone know which seller willing to do zero interest installent for Sony A7R/S? hehe.. cant splash so much cash at a time.

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QUOTE(kfhoe @ Jan 13 2015, 11:56 AM)
Anyone know which seller willing to do zero interest installent for Sony A7R/S? hehe.. cant splash so much cash at a time.

Thanks for the feedback.
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can buy from sony online store.

a7r/a7s both rebate RM700 and 1 year extended warranty with easy payment option also.

https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=218

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QUOTE(hensky @ Jan 13 2015, 12:02 PM)
can buy from sony online store.

a7r/a7s both rebate RM700 and 1 year extended warranty with easy payment option also.

https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=218
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Wow. I din even know that.
So i guess the delivery option only courier. kinda risky of damage.

Anyway, Thanks. will have a look.
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QUOTE(kfhoe @ Jan 13 2015, 12:19 PM)
Wow. I din even know that.
So i guess the delivery option only courier. kinda risky of damage.

Anyway, Thanks. will have a look.
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haha, sony will package it nicely.
been order few lenses from them.
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This one?
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Got fake ones or not? I sked of buying Sandisk already from locally. Manyak fake ones.
cheapest of the one in the picture i saw was Rm202 but sked fake only
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Yeah this but I don't want 64gb version. I prefer 32gb sad.gif
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QUOTE(hensky @ Jan 13 2015, 12:02 PM)
can buy from sony online store.

a7r/a7s both rebate RM700 and 1 year extended warranty with easy payment option also.

https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=218
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'they put something like these...

* Promotion is valid from 8th Jan - 22nd Feb 2015. While stocks last.
** Original price for ILCE-7R is RM6999, price after rebate RM700 is RM6299.

as i know, the market price for this new unit a7r about 5xxx, and not 6299... hmm.gif promotion doh.gif
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QUOTE(kfhoe @ Jan 13 2015, 11:56 AM)
Anyone know which seller willing to do zero interest installent for Sony A7R/S? hehe.. cant splash so much cash at a time.

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do you have maybank credit card and another bank's?
you can use bank A card to charge then do a balance transfer over to maybank card
its zero interest and no fees

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Jan 13 2015, 05:37 PM)
'they put something like these...

* Promotion is valid from 8th Jan - 22nd Feb 2015. While stocks last.
** Original price for ILCE-7R is RM6999, price after rebate RM700 is RM6299.

as i know, the market price for this new unit a7r about 5xxx, and not 6299...  hmm.gif promotion  doh.gif
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the price RM6299 is SRP after rebate. the RM5XXX from outside is lowest they can offer. of course, ended up, u had to pay extra 3-5% when done payment with credit card. what's more, normal shop has no extend warranty
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jan 13 2015, 09:08 PM)
the price RM6299 is SRP after rebate. the RM5XXX from outside is lowest they can offer. of course, ended up, u had to pay extra 3-5% when done payment with credit card. what's more, normal shop has no extend warranty
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if i remember correctly the 3yrs extended warranty about 400-500; and that still be ~300-400 cheaper than this offer (6299). also this promotion which is only cover 1 yrs extended warranty. Smart marketing tongue.gif better to call in as a trade off instead of promotion. anyway, street shop is good for cash buyer and sony retail is good for 0% installment, fair enough smile.gif

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Jan 13 2015, 09:41 PM)
if i remember correctly the 3yrs extended warranty about 400-500; and that still be ~300-400 cheaper than this offer (6299). also this promotion which is only cover 1 yrs extended warranty. Smart marketing  tongue.gif better to call in as a trade off instead of promotion. anyway, street shop is good for cash buyer and sony retail is good for 0% installment, fair enough  smile.gif
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my friend bought A7S couple of months ago. according to sales representative, extend 1 year add RM280, meanwhile extend 2 years RM400

btw, those who purchase at sony store is rest assured all purchased product is genuine sony malaysia unit. if display unit they will inform consumer upfront, instead of some shop, whom hide the truth and deceive shoppers of "they're new unit"
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jan 13 2015, 09:50 PM)
my friend bought A7S couple of months ago. according to sales representative, extend 1 year add RM280, meanwhile extend 2 years RM400

btw, those who purchase at sony store is rest assured all purchased product is genuine sony malaysia unit. if display unit they will inform consumer upfront, instead of some shop, whom hide the truth and deceive shoppers of "they're new unit"
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ya, i understand your point buying at street shop. always have to ask them take a set that never open (completely sealed); they can give whatever reason it is, but the is up to us to get what we want. if A no good, go B, if B no good , go C and so on. Still have many shoppers looking for business, just matter of small or big margin they earn smile.gif

From the past i wish to buy from sony retail, but their prices just turn me down sad.gif but weird i saw sometime US/Aus sony retail did very attractive promotion with included adapter for very very attractive prices. never could happen at here haha
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Jan 13 2015, 10:19 PM)
ya, i understand your point buying at street shop. always have to ask them take a set that never open (completely sealed); they can give whatever reason it is, but the is up to us to get what we want.  if A no good, go B, if B no good , go C and so on. Still have many shoppers looking for business, just matter of small or big margin they earn  smile.gif

From the past i wish to buy from sony retail, but their prices just turn me down  sad.gif but weird i saw sometime US/Aus sony retail did very attractive promotion with included adapter for very very attractive prices. never could happen at here haha
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probably because malaysia custom tax quite high...
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Newbie here... smile.gif
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Guys sorry if OT, but i want to let me my rarely used Sony HVL-F43M flash (not AM version). Bought on June 2014 from Studio Zaloon, only used 2-3 times, most of the times stored inside drybox. Warranty already registered online, everything in box (accessories and receipt) except the pouch bag (misplaced it during moving house, still try to find it). If interested just PM me with ur offer. Thanks.
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QUOTE(tarm @ Jan 14 2015, 08:24 PM)
Guys sorry if OT, but i want to let me my rarely used Sony HVL-F43M flash (not AM version). Bought on June 2014 from Studio Zaloon, only used 2-3 times, most of the times stored inside drybox. Warranty already registered online, everything in box (accessories and receipt) except the pouch bag (misplaced it during moving house, still try to find it). If interested just PM me with ur offer. Thanks.
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QUOTE(ibnasad @ Jan 15 2015, 08:33 PM)
Hi guys new Sony adopter here. Jumped to A6000 for the feather-weight. Feels so good, like taking off steel-capped shoes after long day at work! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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anyone use A7Ii here? can confirm if this one have 120p?
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dun have a7ii.
no 120p.

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dun have a7ii.
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if u wan 120p can try gopro 4.

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Sony RX100mk3 have 120p
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Hi need recommendation here. Which Should i buy for my a7 for wide angle? samyang 14mm f2.8 or sony 16-35 f4?
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Hi need recommendation here. Which Should i buy for my a7 for wide angle? samyang 14mm f2.8 or sony 16-35 f4?
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16-35mm awesome, if budget accepted, just go for it. lovely sexy lens thumbup.gif
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Hi need recommendation here. Which Should i buy for my a7 for wide angle? samyang 14mm f2.8 or sony 16-35 f4?
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Maybe wait for the 28mm f2. There are adapters to turn it into a fisheye and UWA

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First time played with the A7ii today. Tried on the kit zoom and also 55mm. I don't mind the size but the weight really feels heavy. Very small but dense which makes it feel really heavy.

I also tried the A7 with a 24-70mm. The 24-70mm is not as big as I imagined, quite small. Now I dunno why I didn't think to put the 24-70mm on the A7ii. Only thought of that after I left the store.

I like to make a decision to buy something before April 1st. The GST will add another Rm450 to the price. Hopefully I can make a better decision once they announce the new APS-C and FF body.
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Jan 17 2015, 01:02 AM)
if u wan 120p can try gopro 4.
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jan 17 2015, 10:12 AM)
Sony RX100mk3 have 120p
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Have to wait for next ILCE that fulfill these: FF (never use ff, my dream), IBIS (+4.5stop), 120P (love slomo!). Thanks for your replied!
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Maybe wait for the 28mm f2. G lens. There are adapters to turn it into a fisheye and UWA
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28mm f2 is NOT G lens
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First time played with the A7ii today. Tried on the kit zoom and also 55mm. I don't mind the size but the weight really feels heavy. Very small but dense which makes it feel really heavy.

I also tried the A7 with a 24-70mm. The 24-70mm is not as big as I imagined, quite small. Now I dunno why I didn't think to put the 24-70mm on the A7ii. Only thought of that after I left the store.

I like to make a decision to buy something before April 1st. The GST will add another Rm450 to the price. Hopefully I can make a better decision once they announce the new APS-C and FF body.
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I watch people feedbacks, this is overprice/performance lens. although it was good range versatility lens. But as i was truely addicted bokehlicious, F4 seem not enough, f2.8 is real realm tongue.gif somemore if with IBIS, i dont think need OSS on the lens even at 70mm focal length. Now i start feel the pain as others did when want to find a cheap ff portrait prime lens for emount (28mm-35mm), really dont have much choice ==" currently lenses are so pricey and or it just available in apsc.

hope goment push out the GST date to year end as part effort to help those flood victim for their recovery.
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Jan 17 2015, 11:36 PM)
I watch people feedbacks, this is overprice/performance lens. although it was good range versatility lens. But as i was truely addicted bokehlicious, F4 seem not enough, f2.8 is real realm  tongue.gif somemore if with IBIS, i dont think need OSS on the lens even at 70mm focal length. Now i start feel the pain as others did when want to find a cheap ff portrait prime lens for emount (28mm-35mm), really dont have much choice ==" currently lenses are so pricey and or it just available in apsc.

hope goment push out the GST date to year end as part effort to help those flood victim for their recovery.
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Well, even at 50mm F0.95 I feel like it doesn't look that far from F1.4 sometimes.

Also, in order to get 120p on the A7S (not A7II) you need to have the following:
1) get a SDXC card (SDXC means at least 64GB)
2) set your video mode to NTSC (if your card was used for shooting PAL, it will force you to format to NTSC)
3) set your file format to XAVC S
4) set the record setting to 120p 50m (it will automatically crop to APS-C)

I cannot find enough use for 120p, sadly.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 18 2015, 01:51 AM)
Well, even at 50mm F0.95 I feel like it doesn't look that far from F1.4 sometimes.

Also, in order to get 120p on the A7S (not A7II) you need to have the following:
1) get a SDXC card (SDXC means at least 64GB)
2) set your video mode to NTSC (if your card was used for shooting PAL, it will force you to format to NTSC)
3) set your file format to XAVC S
4) set the record setting to 120p 50m (it will automatically crop to APS-C)

I cannot find enough use for 120p, sadly.
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albnok, is there any formula to understand how big actual FOV for 35mm lens w/ff body if a group of people (object) is about 9 feets away from camera? I wonder if these people stand from left to right, the FOV cover area (left to right) will be how many feet...

I known A7s XAVC S do have 120P but knowing IBIS was really a BIG BIG deal, everyone looks for upcoming 7rII or 7sII w/IBIS. So, current 7s lack of IBIS, quite pricey as well for this body ==" will not consider 7s.

I still kept the 16GB SDHC 90MB/s, i think it is still sufficient for 120P. hopefully.
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Jan 18 2015, 01:07 PM)
albnok, is there any formula to understand how big actual FOV for 35mm lens w/ff body if a group of people (object) is about 9 feets away from camera? I wonder if these people stand from left to right, the FOV cover area (left to right) will be how many feet...

I known A7s XAVC S do have 120P but knowing IBIS was really a BIG BIG deal, everyone looks for upcoming 7rII or 7sII w/IBIS. So, current 7s lack of IBIS, quite pricey as well for this body ==" will not consider 7s.

I still kept the 16GB SDHC 90MB/s, i think it is still sufficient for 120P. hopefully.
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There is this:
http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html

I don't consider lacking IBIS a big deal, because on my A7S I now shoot in Manual Exposure, F4, 1/160s, Auto ISO. 1/160s is enough to freeze motion and get steady shots, and fast enough not to overexpose in sunlight, while Auto ISO can go up to 409600 in low light, which rarely ever happens.

No, you must have a 64GB card to shoot 120P. I don't know why but that's just how it is for Sony, even the RX10.
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No, you must have a 64GB card to shoot 120P. I don't know why but that's just how it is for Sony, even the RX10.
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Its not about the capacity. You need a SDXC card to make it work and SDXC's minimum is 64gb. I am sure a 128gb SDXC will work just fine too

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Its not about the capacity. You need a SDXC card to make it work and SDXC's minimum is 64gb. I am sure a 128gb SDXC will work just fine too
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Yup I guess I misreplied (my earlier one was saying SDXC.)
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There is this:
http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html

I don't consider lacking IBIS a big deal, because on my A7S I now shoot in Manual Exposure, F4, 1/160s, Auto ISO. 1/160s is enough to freeze motion and get steady shots, and fast enough not to overexpose in sunlight, while Auto ISO can go up to 409600 in low light, which rarely ever happens.

No, you must have a 64GB card to shoot 120P. I don't know why but that's just how it is for Sony, even the RX10.
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that memory card is quite dirty approach push for storage media hmm.gif i checked the SDXC, speed is similar doh.gif
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Its not about the capacity. You need a SDXC card to make it work and SDXC's minimum is 64gb. I am sure a 128gb SDXC will work just fine too
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My first wedding with the A7II nod.gif Tele shot with Zeiss Jena 50 1.8, wider shot with Nikon 24 2.8 AIS
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wow! new cam! running show with mf, is tough!
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Yesterday Sony workshop manage to have a chance tested on the FE55/1.8 & FE70-200/4 G.
Both of lenses are good....
Any user here? mind to share more?
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Yesterday Sony workshop manage to have a chance tested on the FE55/1.8 & FE70-200/4 G.
Both of lenses are good....
Any user here? mind to share more?
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I don't have it but I have tested the 70200G. Very good at what it does, though it's a bit heavy for my tiny A6k. Should be more at home on an A7ii or A7s (both have reinforced mounts supposedly).

The 55z I don't know, but I've heard that it's very good as well. Plus all the Zeiss colours. Personally I'm more a 28-35mm guy however, so I can't comment much more than that.

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Sony seriously needs to look into making a rotatable base version of the HVL-F20 (by just making the part that interfaces with the flash mount turnable). Priced well it will be a killer product IMHO.

Until then, it's either waiting long long for another HVL-F32M sale or the Niss i40.
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Hey guys, if you missed the sales we had earlier in Sunway Pyramid and IOI Mall Puchong, here is the last one in Chinese calendar! We have many products that are up for sales in a more affordable price! And this is also the last sales we are going to give you guys before GST land! So don't wait up! Sign up now and we will send you an invitation!

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wah thx bro. very kind of u to do the window shopping ... rclxms.gif

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Sony seriously needs to look into making a rotatable base version of the HVL-F20 (by just making the part that interfaces with the flash mount turnable). Priced well it will be a killer product IMHO.

Until then, it's either waiting long long for another HVL-F32M sale or the Niss i40.
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After using f20 for few months.. really felt lacking... in need to look for f43
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wah thx bro. very kind of u to do the window shopping ...  rclxms.gif
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After using f20 for few months.. really felt lacking... in need to look for f43
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does f43m look so big ? f20m lack on what ? range ?
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does f43m look so big ? f20m lack on what ? range ?
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for me look quite big on a6k. but just nice on a7 series.
if u wan smaller can try nissin i40. i like the manual dial.. easy to control & understand.

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does f43m look so big ? f20m lack on what ? range ?
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My A7+ Voigtlander 50mm f/1.1 and Nokton classic 50mm f/1.5
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For simple indoor use (low roof), f20 is enough though. When there's a need for higher power, you wish to throw the flash away. The refresh rate is way way too slow  vmad.gif . Also cannot use in portrait orientation
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Should bump the iso to 3200/6400... Less flash power use...

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Should bump the iso to 3200/6400... Less flash power use...
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I done that last time. Put my flash mode on rear-sync and forgot to put it back... In a club environment... Then that's what turned out. Flash going off with ISO at 2500 or even 6400 doh.gif
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Planning to get macro filter...any recommended? Currently looking at B+W macro close up and raynox dcr-250 (will it fit on SEL50F18 & sel55210?)
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Planning to get macro filter...any recommended? Currently looking at B+W macro close up and raynox dcr-250 (will it fit on SEL50F18 & sel55210?)
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Don't. You'll have better IQ with extension tubes if you wanna do macro. A decent set *WITH* AF would run you about RM300-400, with Kenko being a reliable brand for AF tubes.

Close up filters put unnecessary glass between your lens and the subject, and will generally muck up corner sharpness really badly. Not sure about the Raynox though, but in theory it's just about the same anyway. Top end double glass CU filters (like the Canon 250D and 500D) limit this loss, but are usually even *more* expensive than tubes.

Ex tubes don't have any glass, hence very little sharpness loss. It forces the lens to perform outside it's normal envelope however, which *might* increase CAs and whatnot.

However, close up filters do help increase magnification with tele lenses, so if you wanna use them with the 55210 for really big magifications, a close up filter might be preferable over ex tubes - though the sharpness loss will still be there (which will be detrimental to the already only ok-ok sharpness of the 55210).

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QUOTE(~C.W.S~ @ Jan 20 2015, 02:53 PM)
Planning to get macro filter...any recommended? Currently looking at B+W macro close up and raynox dcr-250 (will it fit on SEL50F18 & sel55210?)
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I agree with Eiraku. DO NOT use macro filter even though it is cheaper.. If you really cannot afford the auto extension tubes then get the manual ones.. or you will waste your money.. unless you dont really care about IQ and just want to take the one off casual photo.
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Yesterday Sony workshop manage to have a chance tested on the FE55/1.8 & FE70-200/4 G.
Both of lenses are good....
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70-200 is not bad, really sharp wide-open but the colors and contrast isnt as good as Zeiss glass, very lightweight tho.
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Thanks for the advice! At least I know there is AF tubes but for Kenko it cost 600+ in shashinki sweat.gif A bit too much for casual shot.
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Thanks for the advice! At least I know there is AF tubes but for Kenko it cost 600+ in shashinki sweat.gif A bit too much for casual shot.
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http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/231257001464?ss...984.m1423.l2649

I think this suits your needs...only costs 10% of the price of kenko's biggrin.gif
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hi..new a6000 user here..previously a nikon DLSR user for 7 years. sold of all my nikon gears

current gear 16-50 and 16 f 2.8 prime and 55-210mm.

next upgrade will be flash Raynox Macro and Legendary Minolta 500mm f8 Reflex.hopefully...


For the Flash..im used to nikon sb800..anybody can suggest me a 3rd party model which can offer similar features especially off camera wireless trigger, High Speed Sync and of course rotatable head. thanks.

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I got raynox and I agree with you... better use tube.. hehehe.. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 20 2015, 10:54 AM)
Don't. You'll have better IQ with extension tubes if you wanna do macro. A decent set *WITH* AF would run you about RM300-400, with Kenko being a reliable brand for AF tubes.

Close up filters put unnecessary glass between your lens and the subject, and will generally muck up corner sharpness really badly. Not sure about the Raynox though, but in theory it's just about the same anyway. Top end double glass CU filters (like the Canon 250D and 500D) limit this loss, but are usually even *more* expensive than tubes.

Ex tubes don't have any glass, hence very little sharpness loss. It forces the lens to perform outside it's normal envelope however, which *might* increase CAs and whatnot.

However, close up filters do help increase magnification with tele lenses, so if you wanna use them with the 55210 for really big magifications, a close up filter might be preferable over ex tubes - though the sharpness loss will still be there (which will be detrimental to the already only ok-ok sharpness of the 55210).
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Should bump the iso to 3200/6400... Less flash power use...
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That's not really correct also...

Higher ISO is not a replacement for fill flash. Fill flash is almost normally used to illuminate your subjects better and also removing some harsh shadows, which cannot be replicated by "just using higher ISO"

That's why you see people using flash even during day time smile.gif
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 20 2015, 04:51 PM)
That's not really correct also...

Higher ISO is not a replacement for fill flash. Fill flash is almost normally used to illuminate your subjects better and also removing some harsh shadows, which cannot be replicated by "just using higher ISO"

That's why you see people using flash even during day time smile.gif
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sitescope is correct in saying less flash power. Using a higher ISO also removes harsh shadows by having more ambient light, and uses less flash compared to ambient. I think you've read it as "using high ISO without flash".
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Guys.. I have one super nice minolta to let go.. Minolta md mount 24mm f2.8..super condition.. Currently used on my a7 with md to nex mount but i prefer wider.. Letting it go but i don't provide adapter..
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Guys, can check with you..

If I have nissin i40 & hvl-f43m, can i do the hss (High-speed sync) on A7?

or can this be done with the following combo..

a) hvl-f20m(attached on A7) & hvl-f43m (remote stand)
b) hvl-f43m(attached on A7) & hvl-f20m (remote stand)
c) hvl-f43m(attached on A7) & nissin i40 (remote stand)
d) nissin i40(attached on A7) & hvl-f43m (remote stand)

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sitescope is correct in saying less flash power. Using a higher ISO also removes harsh shadows by having more ambient light, and uses less flash compared to ambient. I think you've read it as "using high ISO without flash".
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Jan 20 2015, 07:52 PM)
Guys, can check with you..

If I have nissin i40 & hvl-f43m, can i do the hss (High-speed sync) on A7?

or can this be done with the following combo..

a) hvl-f20m(attached on A7) & hvl-f43m (remote stand)
b) hvl-f43m(attached on A7) & hvl-f20m (remote stand)
c) hvl-f43m(attached on A7) & nissin i40 (remote stand)
d) nissin i40(attached on A7) & hvl-f43m (remote stand)
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A) Yes, the F20 can trigger HSS on F32, F42, F58, F42AM, F60, F43M (just tested)
B) NO, the f20 doesnt support HSS on itself.
C) no comment
D) no comment, (C,D) but there are mentions of it works, but i yet to get any 100% confirmation from trusted friend/source.

E) F20 does not has HSS itself, so normal fill flash cannot activate HSS.
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Thx bro edpaul!

Glad that option (a) is workable... rclxm9.gif

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A) Yes, the F20 can trigger HSS on F32, F42, F58, F42AM, F60, F43M (just tested)
B) NO, the f20 doesnt support HSS on itself.
C) no comment
D) no comment, (C,D) but there are mentions of it works, but i yet to get any 100% confirmation from trusted friend/source.

E) F20 does not has HSS itself, so normal fill flash cannot activate HSS.
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Btw, do Sony give international warranty for their camera accessories? Let say I buy from UK but later found problem when back in KL.. would our local Sony provide any support?

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Should bump the iso to 3200/6400... Less flash power use...
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Haha, i'll try to not exceeding that iso the best i can, noticeable noise from the pic. Using triple A batteries even with rechargeable one is not ideal with flash in my opinion, using the flash power down to lowest (setting from camera) is still ok, more than 0 then you need to ask your subject to wait for few seconds for next shot with flash.
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Btw, do Sony give international warranty for their camera accessories? Let say I buy from UK but later found problem when back in KL.. would our local Sony provide any support?
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I doubt it. Last I checked they don't, but it may differ from region to region. Sony is kinda famous for preferring to keep things "region-locked" however, warranties included.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 21 2015, 12:09 AM)
I doubt it. Last I checked they don't, but it may differ from region to region. Sony is kinda famous for preferring to keep things "region-locked" however, warranties included.
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Jan 20 2015, 11:26 PM)
Btw, do Sony give international warranty for their camera accessories? Let say I buy from UK but later found problem when back in KL.. would our local Sony provide any support?
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the general answer is No,

but i had a friend who brought from SG, went to Australia to study, he mailed Sony Sg and ask for assistant, after some discussion, he was asked to send his unit to Sony Australia, and Sony SG will cover the cost. (partly he used the keyword, study in Australia, wouldnt able to go back SG for warranty service claim)

and since you said buy from UK, i know UK and US Customer Service are better.... so u you try email them and see if they allows you to send to Sony Msia for service and charges bear by them.

Eiraku: basically almost every (eletrocnics) company i know of, locks their region warranty due to 'water-set/AP' set issue. Buying from other region and claim locally is no different from legalize water/ap units. Samsung phone buy in Korea cant be claim in malaysia, Lenovo laptop buy from Taiwan cant claim in Malaysia, Canon brought from Australia's claim in malaysia.

but HTC brought from taiwan, basically can claim from all around the world wub.gif after u write a email to HTC taiwan regard your issue. thumbup.gif (but some region will not allow like warzone area.... shocking.gif )

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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Jan 20 2015, 07:52 PM)
Guys, can check with you..

If I have nissin i40 & hvl-f43m, can i do the hss (High-speed sync) on A7?

or can this be done with the following combo..

a) hvl-f20m(attached on A7) & hvl-f43m (remote stand)
b) hvl-f43m(attached on A7) & hvl-f20m (remote stand)
c) hvl-f43m(attached on A7) & nissin i40 (remote stand)
d) nissin i40(attached on A7) & hvl-f43m (remote stand)
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By the way, the HVL-F20M (and F20AM) cannot be used as an off-camera wireless slave flash. I'd prefer A).
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well noted with thanks guys.. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(ieR @ Jan 21 2015, 12:05 PM)
the general answer is No,

but i had a friend who brought from SG, went to Australia to study, he mailed Sony Sg and ask for assistant, after some discussion, he was asked to send his unit to Sony Australia, and Sony SG will cover the cost. (partly he used the keyword, study in Australia, wouldnt able to go back SG for warranty service claim)

and since you said buy from UK, i know UK and US Customer Service are better.... so u you try email them and see if they allows you to send to Sony Msia for service and charges bear by them.

Eiraku: basically almost every (eletrocnics) company i know of, locks their region warranty due to 'water-set/AP' set issue. Buying from other region and claim locally is no different from legalize water/ap units. Samsung phone buy in Korea cant be claim in malaysia, Lenovo laptop buy from Taiwan cant claim in Malaysia, Canon brought from Australia's claim in malaysia.

but HTC brought from taiwan, basically can claim from all around the world  wub.gif after u write a email to HTC taiwan regard your issue.  thumbup.gif (but some region will not allow like warzone area.... shocking.gif )
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By the way, the HVL-F20M (and F20AM) cannot be used as an off-camera wireless slave flash. I'd prefer A).
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Further tested A7M2 SD write speed.

SanDisk Extreme Pro 32gb rated 95r 90w (FAT32)
1/320 shutter speed, ISO3200, took 27 RAW shots before it started to slow down. 14 seconds to clear buffer.

Toshiba Exceria Type 2 64gb rated 95r 60w (exFAT)
1/320 shutter speed, ISO3200, took 24 RAW shots before it started to slow down. 17 seconds to clear buffer.

SanDisk Extreme Pro 8gb rated 95r 90w (FAT32)
1/250 shutter speed, ISO1600, took 27 RAW shots before it started to slow down. 13.5 seconds to clear buffer.

* 1 RAW shot is approx 24mb
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hi..new a6000 user here..previously a nikon DLSR user for 7 years. sold of all my nikon gears

current gear 16-50 and 16 f 2.8 prime and 55-210mm.

next upgrade will be flash Raynox Macro and Legendary Minolta 500mm f8 Reflex.hopefully...
For the Flash..im used to nikon sb800..anybody can suggest me a 3rd party model which can offer similar features especially off camera wireless trigger, High Speed Sync and of course rotatable head. thanks.
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so..nobody has an answer to this?
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QUOTE(sallehsi @ Jan 22 2015, 12:19 AM)
so..nobody has an answer to this?
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AFAIK, there's no 3rd party flash that is able to do wireless with MI. Only way is to use Sony's own flash. F32 would be the right size with swivel head but is overpriced, F43 would be a good option. And of course only by attaching it to the body will be able to activate wireless feature.
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QUOTE(nixonyang @ Jan 22 2015, 12:26 AM)
AFAIK, there's no 3rd party flash that is able to do wireless with MI. Only way is to use Sony's own flash. F32 would be the right size with swivel head but is overpriced, F43 would be a good option. And of course only by attaching it to the body will be able to activate wireless feature.
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yungnuo mark 560 iii with rf 603 offers a wireless trigger works on a6000. i need to know if other brands also have before i resorted with YN...will not go for sony. too costly
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QUOTE(sallehsi @ Jan 22 2015, 02:12 AM)
yungnuo mark 560 iii with rf 603 offers a wireless trigger works on a6000. i need to know if other brands also have before i resorted with YN...will not go for sony. too costly
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How so? The F20M + F43M costs the same as a SB-910.
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sallehsi: before we go further in, you need to understand the difference between a proprietary system and non proprietary system

Canon, Nikon and Sony ORIGINAL Wireless flash system are proprietary system, they only works with their own designated signal. nikon will market their system as CLS.

anyway, for 3rd party flashes, mostly like a studio strobe, are just simply plain IR/optic trigger, they see flash pulse, they fires. even a compact camera can set it off.

another 3rd party system is using their own 'Radio frequency signal' aka RF triggers.

as for Yongnou 560 III, its just a plain flash that has built in rf transreceiver, provided u have the right transmitter(eg: rf603) to trigger them. so basically its a RF wl flash

i. you solve your first question with the YN flash...
ii. No, the HSS will not work with your A6000. because the transmitter you getting doesnt understand the signal from your A6000(nor it have proper connector to link to the hotshoe.)
iii. sony is famous for their swivel head. rotatable is boring tongue.gif (check out sony cobra design)


if, if, you still have your old nikon sb800, use it. grab a cheap YN trigger for nikon, you will able to fire/trigger them without problem. just no HSS no TTL
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Jan 22 2015, 02:37 AM)
sallehsi: before we go further in, you need to understand the difference between a proprietary system and non proprietary system

Canon, Nikon and Sony ORIGINAL Wireless flash system are proprietary system, they only works with their own designated signal. nikon will market their system as CLS.

anyway, for 3rd party flashes, mostly like a studio strobe, are just simply plain IR/optic trigger, they see flash pulse, they fires. even a compact camera can set it off.

another 3rd party system is using their own 'Radio frequency signal' aka RF triggers.

as for Yongnou 560 III, its just a plain flash that has built in rf transreceiver, provided u have the right transmitter(eg: rf603) to trigger them. so basically its a RF wl flash

i. you solve your first question with the YN flash...
ii. No, the HSS will not work with your A6000. because the transmitter you getting doesnt understand the signal from your A6000(nor it have proper connector to link to the hotshoe.)
iii. sony is famous for their swivel head. rotatable is boring tongue.gif (check out sony cobra design)
if, if, you still have your old nikon sb800, use it. grab a cheap YN trigger for nikon, you will able to fire/trigger them without problem. just no HSS no TTL
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already know about the proprietary system and non.thanks for the heads up..just to add.. sb800 can also be triggered wirelessly via a flash pulse. already tried with cybershot.

the reason i wont go for sony is because, they also dont offer HSS with head set to bounce..to me, no point getting the native brand if it cannot offer HSS..thats what i read from the review.i might be wrong ..and as already mentioned by another members, native brand are always expensive. i already experience with my previous system, Need to fork out quite a money for CLS setup sb-600, sb-800 etc. why dont i just use my existing nikon cls system with my a6000. well, by selling those flashes i can buy 3rd party flash cheaper and with better setup.(it already sold btw)

but i have to admit the swivel design by sony is remarkable. i really like it...but that doesnt really justified for the price.unless u guys here can really poison me lol..

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QUOTE(sallehsi @ Jan 22 2015, 08:24 AM)
already know about the proprietary system and non.thanks for the heads up..just to add.. sb800 can also be triggered wirelessly via a flash pulse. already tried with cybershot.

the reason i wont go for sony is because, they also dont offer HSS with head set to bounce..to me, no point getting the native brand if it cannot offer HSS..thats what i read from the review.i might be wrong ..and as already mentioned by another members, native brand are always expensive. i already experience with my previous system, Need to fork out quite a money for CLS setup sb-600, sb-800 etc. why dont i just use my existing nikon cls system with my a6000. well, by selling those flashes i can buy 3rd party flash cheaper and with better setup.(it already sold btw)

but i have to admit the swivel design by sony is remarkable. i really like it...but that doesnt really justified for the price.unless u guys here can really poison me lol..
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HSS is only available when the flash is pointed forward directly, at least this is valid to f43m.
YN560 is good option for wireless flash with their own radio it seems. Have an YN560 iv and to be added more soon.
Have yet to find a best way to trigger my f43m wirelessly.
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QUOTE(sallehsi @ Jan 22 2015, 08:24 AM)
already know about the proprietary system and non.thanks for the heads up..just to add.. sb800 can also be triggered wirelessly via a flash pulse. already tried with cybershot.

the reason i wont go for sony is because, they also dont offer HSS with head set to bounce..to me, no point getting the native brand if it cannot offer HSS..thats what i read from the review.i might be wrong ..and as already mentioned by another members, native brand are always expensive. i already experience with my previous system, Need to fork out quite a money for CLS setup sb-600, sb-800 etc. why dont i just use my existing nikon cls system with my a6000. well, by selling those flashes i can buy 3rd party flash cheaper and with better setup.(it already sold btw)

but i have to admit the swivel design by sony is remarkable. i really like it...but that doesnt really justified for the price.unless u guys here can really poison me lol..
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To be fair, even the Strobist does his stuff with full manual flashes and radio triggers. While brand specific TTL flash systems are very good at getting things "right", sometimes "right" isn't necessarily what you want in a more creative sense.

Sometimes the manual stuff is just more flexible. Of course it will be less "aim and shoot" lar, so it should be done under a controlled, non-time-sensitive setting (like on a staged shoot or in studio).

If you want a flexible 3rd party flash system, why not the Phottix Mitros+. IINM a model for the Sony Multi hot shoe is already out. I have no idea where to get it and it WILL be huge for a mirrorless cam but for multi-flashgun setups I can't think of anything better.

Besides a bunch of pocket wizards that is. Which will be a whole lot messier, plus last I checked they *still* don't have models out for Sony yet.

There's also the YN560, but I haven't checked that one.

For me, I only need one small travel flash so I only have the i40 or the new 32AM under consideration.

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QUOTE(sallehsi @ Jan 22 2015, 08:24 AM)
already know about the proprietary system and non.thanks for the heads up..just to add.. sb800 can also be triggered wirelessly via a flash pulse. already tried with cybershot.

the reason i wont go for sony is because, they also dont offer HSS with head set to bounce..to me, no point getting the native brand if it cannot offer HSS..thats what i read from the review.i might be wrong ..and as already mentioned by another members, native brand are always expensive. i already experience with my previous system, Need to fork out quite a money for CLS setup sb-600, sb-800 etc. why dont i just use my existing nikon cls system with my a6000. well, by selling those flashes i can buy 3rd party flash cheaper and with better setup.(it already sold btw)

but i have to admit the swivel design by sony is remarkable. i really like it...but that doesnt really justified for the price.unless u guys here can really poison me lol..
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sb800 via SU4 mode, so will sb900, sb910 with SU4 mode(in the settings). the reason many strobist doesnt like optic trigger is that, anyone(or anything) could set off/fire your WL setup (in group shot) and cause many complication (overused, overheat, slow cycle etc) hence they stick with proprietary system or lock it rf trigger(using own channelA/B/C/D)

i really doubt any other company has HSS with mounted flash in bounce mode. even if XXXXX give HSS on bounce, it is totally useless, it has no way to calculate the required power to use when there is no indication of the length(distance) of bounce < that is the reason why sony disable HSS in bounce mode when attached, because it totally pointless and not useful having hss in bounce (attached) < instead of HSS, u might as well on the video light on the flash for better continuous light source. :/ kinda defeat the purpose.

BUT, HSS is available no matter what angle u bend, in WL Mode (so will canon and nikon flash). even so, u required Proprietary system so the flashes knows the HSS activation due to communication with camera shutter setting. No, you cannot manual HSS it, No flash i know can force to do this, hence why trigger will not activate HSS(because most trigger will not know your camera shutter because lack of communication connections) unless... unless you talking about thousand of ringgit for the pocketwizards. smile.gif

so i dont think there is any cheaper way to trigger HSS then using original flash sad.gif (except nissin i40, claim by other ppl)

reply via handphone, might have a lot typo mistake due to small screen unable to read whole reply.
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BUT, HSS is available no matter what angle u bend, in WL Mode (so will canon and nikon flash). even so, u required Proprietary system so the flashes knows the HSS activation due to communication with camera shutter setting. No, you cannot manual HSS it, No flash i know can force to do this, hence why trigger will not activate HSS(because most trigger will not know your camera shutter because lack of communication connections) unless... unless you talking about thousand of ringgit for the pocketwizards. smile.gif
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Like I said, no pocketwizards for Sony multihotshoe yet. You'll need the adapter *first* before even starting to invest thousands on the PWs themselves

And yeah, after reading your reply only I remembered that Minolta/Sony does wireless HSS. If you can do HSS off camera, does it even matter if the flash doesn't do HSS while bouncing? Just tilt the ENTIRE flashgun while being used wirelessly ler. Of course you'll screw up flash exposure a bit due to the bouncing, but you can compensate rite?

Plus, it's not actually the calculating part that was the problem. HSS + bounce needs a LOT of power, depending on the surface you're bouncing on, it might be beyond what the flash can provide (for any set exposure setting). Of course, if it's just bouncing in a small room, the effect will be nothing more than compensatable under exposure due to the power being cut noticeably.

Or at least this was the general consensus a looooooong time ago when somebody first bought up WAI MAI FLASH NO HSS AND BAUNS.

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QUOTE(ieR @ Jan 22 2015, 12:47 PM)
sb800 via SU4 mode, so will sb900, sb910 with SU4 mode(in the settings). the reason many strobist doesnt like optic trigger is that, anyone(or anything) could set off/fire your WL setup (in group shot) and cause many complication (overused, overheat, slow cycle etc) hence they stick with proprietary system or lock it rf trigger(using own channelA/B/C/D)

i really doubt any other company has HSS with mounted flash in bounce mode. even if XXXXX give HSS on bounce, it is totally useless, it has no way to calculate the required power to use when there is no indication of the length(distance) of bounce < that is the reason why sony disable HSS in bounce mode when attached, because it totally pointless and not useful having hss in bounce (attached) < instead of HSS, u might as well on the video light on the flash for better continuous light source. :/ kinda defeat the purpose.

BUT, HSS is available no matter what angle u bend, in WL Mode (so will canon and nikon flash). even so, u required Proprietary system so the flashes knows the HSS activation due to communication with camera shutter setting. No, you cannot manual HSS it, No flash i know can force to do this, hence why trigger will not activate HSS(because most trigger will not know your camera shutter because lack of communication connections) unless... unless you talking about thousand of ringgit for the pocketwizards. smile.gif

so i dont think there is any cheaper way to trigger HSS then using original flash sad.gif (except nissin i40, claim by other ppl)

reply via handphone, might have a lot typo mistake due to small screen unable to read whole reply.
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another affordable option
http://www.amazon.com/NEEWER%C2%AE-BATTERY...y/dp/B00GJMD08M

saw a video on youtube tested with a6000, claimed to have HSS but i couldnt find the video. price is quite ok
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aduhh... waiting new FE & cheap fast prime @@
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wait till next year... price doesnt look like going down right now.. huhuhu

QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Jan 22 2015, 03:59 PM)
aduhh... waiting new FE & cheap fast prime @@
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sallehsi: cool, hope it really what it claimed. i have very very highly doubt of "false economy" purchase unless proven by many users...

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Anyone got a screen protector recommendation for A7ii? smile.gif
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Anyone got a screen protector recommendation for A7ii? smile.gif
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If you want normal plastic one just use Canon 550D's. Can fit albeit not perfectly but at least no need cut.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Jan 22 2015, 06:26 PM)
If you want normal plastic one just use Canon 550D's. Can fit albeit not perfectly but at least no need cut.
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Thanks for the fast response...let me go check its dimension biggrin.gif
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For all the A-mount lovers, don't look no further liao. laugh.gif Here is the great news for all of you! A-mount is NOW available up to 50% discount on selected models and we will give you Sony Extended Warranty on selected models as well!

Seriously man, don't wait up until everyone scope up all the lens before you do. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 22 2015, 01:52 PM)
Like I said, no pocketwizards for Sony multihotshoe yet. You'll need the adapter *first* before even starting to invest thousands on the PWs themselves

And yeah, after reading your reply only I remembered that Minolta/Sony does wireless HSS. If you can do HSS off camera, does it even matter if the flash doesn't do HSS while bouncing? Just tilt the ENTIRE flashgun while being used wirelessly ler. Of course you'll screw up flash exposure a bit due to the bouncing, but you can compensate rite?

Plus, it's not actually the calculating part that was the problem. HSS + bounce needs a LOT of power, depending on the surface you're bouncing on, it might be beyond what the flash can provide (for any set exposure setting). Of course, if it's just bouncing in a small room, the effect will be nothing more than compensatable under exposure due to the power being cut noticeably.

Or at least this was the general consensus a looooooong time ago when somebody first bought up WAI MAI FLASH NO HSS AND BAUNS.
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oh yea... forgot to mention you need to invest hundreds for the adapter before pocketwizard lol~
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QUOTE(sallehsi @ Jan 22 2015, 01:56 PM)
another affordable option
http://www.amazon.com/NEEWER%C2%AE-BATTERY...y/dp/B00GJMD08M

saw a video on youtube tested with a6000, claimed to have HSS but i couldnt find the video. price is quite ok
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Jan 22 2015, 05:45 PM)
wait till next year... price doesnt look like going down right now.. huhuhu
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thinking to grab an a7ii to play 1st before i gg/cny. new FE looks like will be available only after march. also the new launch price will be hike too. and if i still here at that time, resale on a7ii could be still laku if price around ~4200-4300

any recommendation lens <rm1500; prefer new unit...

-24/28/35 large aperture 1.4 (MF also ok, so can shoot indoor)
-2 in my mind so far: samyang 35 1.4 (cons: really big lens, question on resale market if switch to AF later) and noktor 40 f1.2 (cons: not enough wide for indoor)

i got tamron sp90 f2.8 and hvl-43am; i just do not want to step on the adapter and grab tamron 17-50 f2.8, i think resale 17-50 f2.8 have no market (sony alr have 16-50 ssm f2.8 too) and adapter cause more bulky besides the addition money for adapter, and more weight to entire system although gain versatility.
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 22 2015, 06:53 PM)
For all the A-mount lovers, don't look no further liao. laugh.gif Here is the great news for all of you! A-mount is not available up to 50% discount on selected models and we will give you Sony Extended Warranty on selected models as well!

Seriously man, don't wait up until everyone scope up all the lens before you do. biggrin.gif

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not available or now available?
how about E Mount? Dont be bias ok, we want 50% off on E mounts as well tongue.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Zicron @ Jan 22 2015, 07:28 PM)
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As I said before, built in radios FTW. But the Phottix ain't exactly cheap.

And for that somebody praying for a cheap FE body and lenses, join me in praying for the A6 rangefinder style cam. The FE 2/28 is already pegged as the first "affordable" first party FE lens Sony has coming - it only needs a cheap-ish body (with EVF) to be paired with it.

*prays*

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actually was referring to the price of fe lens.. not body.. body for a7 ady going cheap now..

QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Jan 22 2015, 08:03 PM)
thinking to grab an a7ii to play 1st before i gg/cny. new FE looks like will be available only after march. also the new launch price will be hike too. and if i still here at that time, resale on a7ii could be still laku if price around ~4200-4300

any recommendation lens <rm1500; prefer new unit...

-24/28/35 large aperture 1.4 (MF also ok, so can shoot indoor)
-2 in my mind so far: samyang 35 1.4 (cons: really big lens, question on resale market if switch to AF later) and noktor 40 f1.2 (cons: not enough wide for indoor)

i got tamron sp90 f2.8 and hvl-43am; i just do not want to step on the adapter and grab tamron 17-50 f2.8, i think resale 17-50 f2.8 have no market (sony alr have 16-50 ssm f2.8 too) and adapter cause more bulky besides the addition money for adapter, and more weight to entire system although gain versatility.
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Any promo for sony flash or FE lens?
I'm looking for HVL-F20M at the moment. Do let me know if got discount ya.

Thanks heaps!

QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 22 2015, 06:53 PM)
For all the A-mount lovers, don't look no further liao. laugh.gif Here is the great news for all of you! A-mount is not available up to 50% discount on selected models and we will give you Sony Extended Warranty on selected models as well!

Seriously man, don't wait up until everyone scope up all the lens before you do. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 22 2015, 09:36 PM)
not available or now available?
how about E Mount? Dont be bias ok, we want 50% off on E mounts as well  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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EH SORRY! laugh.gif My apology for the typo. doh.gif E-mount eh? brows.gif Let you know tomorrow. tongue.gif

QUOTE(awiekupo @ Jan 23 2015, 12:02 AM)
Any promo for sony flash or FE lens?
I'm looking for HVL-F20M at the moment. Do let me know if got discount ya.

Thanks heaps!
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Alright bro, update you tomorrow. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jan 22 2015, 01:52 PM)
Like I said, no pocketwizards for Sony multihotshoe yet. You'll need the adapter *first* before even starting to invest thousands on the PWs themselves

And yeah, after reading your reply only I remembered that Minolta/Sony does wireless HSS. If you can do HSS off camera, does it even matter if the flash doesn't do HSS while bouncing? Just tilt the ENTIRE flashgun while being used wirelessly ler. Of course you'll screw up flash exposure a bit due to the bouncing, but you can compensate rite?

Plus, it's not actually the calculating part that was the problem. HSS + bounce needs a LOT of power, depending on the surface you're bouncing on, it might be beyond what the flash can provide (for any set exposure setting). Of course, if it's just bouncing in a small room, the effect will be nothing more than compensatable under exposure due to the power being cut noticeably.

Or at least this was the general consensus a looooooong time ago when somebody first bought up WAI MAI FLASH NO HSS AND BAUNS.
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The benefit of wireless bounce HSS is so you can get the flash head to point at a certain angle while the body of the flash, with the IR sensor, can catch bounced or direct wireless flash signals. I don't know why though that on-camera bounce flash can't use HSS, other than that HSS uses a lot more flash power.
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Alright bro, update you tomorrow. smile.gif
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 22 2015, 09:36 PM)
not available or now available?
how about E Mount? Dont be bias ok, we want 50% off on E mounts as well  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jan 23 2015, 08:02 AM)
E-mount lenses  thumbup.gif
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E-mount lover, got discount for you guys also la~ Just that not up to 50% lo. laugh.gif But rest assured that some are near 50%. brows.gif

QUOTE(awiekupo @ Jan 23 2015, 12:02 AM)
Any promo for sony flash or FE lens?
I'm looking for HVL-F20M at the moment. Do let me know if got discount ya.

Thanks heaps!
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Hey bro, HVL-F20M got also! laugh.gif So I will see you on Sunday? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 23 2015, 08:47 AM)
E-mount lover, got discount for you guys also la~ Just that not up to 50% lo. laugh.gif But rest assured that some are near 50%. brows.gif
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for sure e-mount disc less than 50% lorrr coz new item...
sony is encouraging people to move to e-mount, that's why they wanna throw away a-mount kaw kaw... tongue.gif
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Once again, would like to ask about handy tripod.

Does anyone ever use gorillapod slr zoom?

Is it good?

What is the price?

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