SPM 2013 Thread



Almost there .

That's about it for now , rough front page . I shall keep the candidates as they were in the previous form four thread . Any changes , do let me know by dropping me a private message . Thank you .

[b]SPM Candidates

1 . maximR [ Pure Science + Basic Economics , 10 subjects ]
2 . xCALLUM [ Pure Science + Chinese, 10 subjects ]
3 . Calvin789 [ Sub Science with Engineering Drawing , 9 subjects ]
4 . 5p3ak [ Pure Science, 9 subjects ]
5 . Boy96 [ Pure Science + Bahasa Arab , 10 subjects ]
6 . MonfereBlogspot [ Pure Science, 9 subjects ]
7 . flamemusic [ Pure Science + Chinese , 10 subjects ]
8 . ericling [ Pure Science + Accounts + Chinese , 11 subjects ]
9 . Stuffi [ Pure Science + Chinese , 10 subjects ]
10 . adrianccseng [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
11 . Screen [ Sub-Science , 9 subjects ]
12 . iwant2 [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
13 . sukirani [ Pure Science + Music + Chinese , 11 subjects ]
14 . Allium [ Pure Science + Tasawwur Islam, 10 subjects ]
15 . demamkuning [ Sub Science with ICT , 9 subjects ]
16 . luqman999 [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
17 . blacktubi [ Pure Science + Chinese, 10 subjects ]
18 . nazn [ Pure Science + Accounts, 10 subjects ]
19 . TechnoG [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
20 . D-Frog [ Sub-Science , 9 subjects ]
21 . mingisms [ Pure Science + Accounts, 10 subjects ]
22 . scribblez16 [ Pure Science + Accounts , 10 subjects ]
23 . Deathmax [ Pure Science + EST , 10 subjects ]
24 . PoPoBear [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
25 . fourdgrace [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
26 . Unleashed [ Pure Science + Tasawwur Islam + Bahasa Arab , 11 subjects ]
27 . green_algae [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
28 . superific6 [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
29 . syed shams [ Pure Science + Pendidikan Syariah Islamiah + Pendidikan Quran Sunnah + Bahasa Arab , 11 subjects ]
30 . Azer96 [ Pure Science + Engineering Drawing , 10 subjects ]
31 . ZenXL [ Arts + Commerce , 9 subjects ]
32 . JunHan [ Pure Science + Accounts + Chinese , 11 subjects ]
33 . sporesan [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
34 . x3cream [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
35 . xZean [ Pure Science + Chinese , 10 subjects ]
36 . assymessy [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
37 . SoulLeapers [ Pure Science + ICT , 10 subjects ]
38 . mooney [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
39 . rifaatx [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
40 . -CoupeFanatic- [ Pure Science + Basic Economics + Chinese, 11 subjects ]
41 . dccldccl [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
42 . kailangley [ Pure Science + ICT , 10 subjects ]
43 . vitaminpeeler [ Pure Science + ICT + Bible Knowledge , 11 subjects ]
44 . Xanfiore [ Accounts + Visual Arts + English Literature , 11 subjects ]
45 . Hertz96 [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
46 . devillightning1 [ Commerce , 9 subjects ]
47 . timothy_ren [ Sub Science + EST and Accounts , 10 subjects ]
48 . manutd96 [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
49 . Bugger96 [ Pure Science + Bible Knowledge , 10 subjects ]
50 . Genso [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
51 . cuzuamazing [ Pure Science + Chinese + Chinese Literature , 11 subjects ]
52 . laptopgirl [ Pure Science + Literature in English , 10 subjects ]
53 . Heartnsoul [ Pure Science + Chinese , 10 subjects ]

List of subjects , according to streams

Core subjects
Bahasa Melayu
English
Mathematics
Moral Education / Islamic Studies
History
General Science [ for non-science students ]

Pure Science
Additional Mathematics
Physics
Chemistry
Biology

Science and Technology
English for Science and Technology [ EST ]
Information Technology and Communication [ ICT ]
Applied Science
Applied Mathematics
Fundamentals of Programming

Commerce
Additional Mathematics
Principles of Accounting
Basic Economics
Commerce [ Perdagangan ]

Arts/Humanities/Languages
Commerce
Visual Arts
Geography
Literature in English
Kesusasteraan Melayu
Chinese Literature
Tamil Literature

Religion
Bible Knowledge
Tasawwur Islam

Grade System






Please PM me your streams + number of subjects , and I'll update the list . Any names missing , do let me know .

List of Useful Websites / Resources

Trial SPM Papers

Joshuatlyhttp://edu.joshuatly.com/category/spm/

Bahasa Melayu

BM SPM [ Highly Recommended Website for BM ]
LamanBahasa KOMSAS [ Contains all the notes for KOMSAS, official ones by BPK ]
Cikgu Mohd Khir Kassim [ Highly experienced, Guru Cemerlang in BM SPM/STPM ]
Dr. Ghazali Lateh [ Another highly experienced teacher with lots of sample essays for BM ]

English

SPM English 1119
Learn Teach Love [ An English teacher's blog , contains some useful info ]

This post has been edited by maximR: Oct 25 2013, 12:43 PM

so fast

With v2 here, feeling the pressure already.

Time for World War III!

Why the previous thread is closed?

Just creating a link so that I can go to the previous thread faster: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2614289

This post has been edited by chun96: Oct 22 2013, 09:01 PM

Whoa new thread

The limit for one thread is 125 pages .

Anyway, I am going to repeat my question from the previous thread.

Guys, I need help with the novel question from SBP 2013.
Describe the obstacles that the main character faced. How did he or she overcome these obstacles?
I need the main points for the novel Catch Us If You Can.

This post has been edited by chun96: Oct 21 2013, 10:17 PM

Main obstacles? Authorities meddling in Rory's relationship with his granda? Sorry I haven't read the novel for 2 years, can't remember exactly. Haha

The authority is definitely an obstacle, and the fact the he is young and naive is probably an acceptable answer too.

Oh, V2. Activity should pick up now that SPM is 14 days away though.

Anyways, add me to the list Maxis. Pure Science + BC

15 to be exact.

Releasing stress now since studying from early morning.

A question guys, do you guys take afternoon naps? I rarely take them but nowadays, I find myself very tired in the afternoon(3pm) after studying and if I sleep, I wake up grumpy and dizzy. This results in me not being productive for the rest of the day. Can't cramp those facts in! Any tips?

Take the nap. You can study better with a nap. When you're tired, you need the rest. If you refuse to and persist on reading, you'll not remember it well. All you did is giving you psychological comfort that is really not helpful.

My technique is power nap. Extended nap would cause grogginess.

Drink a cup of coffee then take a nap for 10 minutes. After that, it will be really fresh

Hope it helps

I have my three hour siesta every single day , I've been doing this since I was three . Can't imagine myself without it to be honest . I think I'm used to it , I don't have grogginess or whatsoever after half an hour of rebooting my brain .

Evening naps are extremely vital, they're like my daily routine activities, and now it becomes my hobby. Unlike you, I'll be fully refreshed the next thing I woke up from my evening slumber, so I'll have the chance to keep myself busy at night as I can't sleep early. I reckon you're physically and mentally new to this thing, so yeah, it might take some time for you to acclimatise to this thing. Oh, by the way, refrain yourself from taking a cup of coffee if you're intended to pull an all-nighters. It'll keep you up and be refresh, but, for a small duration of time(for like 2 to 3 hours). The next thing you know, you'll feel extremely drowsy and it'll aggravate your mental concentration, I've been there, done that.

In 'membina ayat', are we not allowed to use the word given as the first word of the sentence?

Before the trials I usually sleep for the whole afternoon, than sleep again at 11pm and wake up at around 3am liddat to study.

But now, its 5am wake 11pm sleep, no naps between them, disciplined it for 2 days straight.

We are not allowed? Never heard of this restriction

This year's SPM thread only till version 2?

All the best to all of you. The fact that SPM is so near, reminds me of last year when I was preparing for my SPM. Good times

It's all boils down to the questions. There're certain restrictions to as how will we construct a whole new sentence from the given word, and we are usually verboten from making a proverb or idiom out of it. But just so you know, my teacher once told me that there's once where the questions allow students to add any imbuhan to the given words. In a nutshell, it's all depend on the questions itself.

This post has been edited by RED-HAIR-SHANKS: Oct 23 2013, 01:52 PM

I'm in the same boat, dude. Slept for three hours yesterday and woke up feeling like death warmed over. Not a great feeling. I don't usually nap. If I feel groggy, I'll have tea or something, or take a short break to watch a YouTube video or something. I find that watching videos or going on the Internet (ie: just staring at a tiny phone screen probably) keeps me from getting too groggy.

Dunno what works for you, but try to walk around a bit for five or so minutes, or do something else. It takes a bit of forceful focus, but it'll pass eventually (and come back full force around 10-ish).

Try not to eat too much for lunch. Take cold showers. Keep yourself moving at a quick pace. Slowing down and ~relaxing will put you right back in bed.

Ming anyway to study BM novel? Btw i lack of notes for papa n koserto terakhir.

Thanks for all the tips guys. I'm going to power nap later. Gonna finish my Add Math module first.

So, how are you guys going to use the 4 days after Add Math and before Physics?

I'll definitely refresh my memory on Biology(the essay part) first, as it's the final subject for me. After that is done, I'll probably resort to focus entirely on Physic P2 and Chemistry P2. That's what I have in mind, but can't confirm it now for sure, as there may be a change in plans for the time being. 4 days sounds quite suffice, at least for me.

Yea, lots to read for Biology. I'll most likely spend a huge portion of the time reading Biology experiments. Physic and Chem experiments are okay, but Biology experiments are... ugh... too many and too long. Plus, I don't feel safe not reading those that already came out

Anyways, my math teacher said that it is very dangerous to do plans and elevations in Math as the marking is very strict. He says they have a perfectly draw plan on a tracing paper which they use to mark it and if your off, your screwed. Was wondering if anyone's teachers told them the same thing? And anyone doing plans? I seem to find Earth as a Sphere annoying.

Yes, it's quite risky, but I've been drawing them since Form 4, so I guess it ain't really that daunting to me. You've got to be extremely precise on the length, and ensure that you have all of the good tools at your side. Every details that has been drawn will be inspect thoroughly, and you'll probably screw yourself even if there is an observable tiny dot on the edge of your drawings. That really irks me to no end, because I often spend lots of times redraw and re-erase them in order to get the near-perfect plan/elevation. But, this question is kinda straight-forward,so I will choose this questions as I've been trained for this for a year now, and not to mention that I lack exposure on Earth as a Sphere.

Really ? So cruel ? What if a student doesn't have / can't afford a proper ruler ? Is your Maths teacher an examiner ?

I do all the questions by the way , just to be sure . I've only drawn plans twice , once in Trials , another in Gerak Gempur .

Google them, you can get really good notes online.

13 days till SPM! Feeling extremely stressed.

Anyway, when (date) will you guys start preparation for 'Bahasa Melayu' and English?

4/11/13

4th for BM, 5th for BI, than 6th 5am wake up BM, and same thing for 7th

Next Saturday ✌️

bm: maybe 2 days b4 6/11/13, cuz bm really nothing much to study. for cerpen and syair those kind of things, i just 带过，never really study the tema and persoalan etc, since those things i can guess from the text given. and also, most questions are kbkk questions.

bi: less than 30 mins can finish, nothing really much to study. i already know step by wicked step well, and for both essays, i never read any essays. i just write whatever i can think about during exam. i only need to memorize the format of different kinds of directed writing.

my biggest problem is bio. 13 days till spm, and i only know, like 20% of the syllabus. screw it! get a C i satisfy already, since i am not going to further study anything about biology

My plans:

Currently I'm combating with the last two chapters of form five Sejarah, hope I can finish it by this week.

Then I'll start my BM next Wednesday, study all the KOMSAS and novel(long time never touch Papa, really long). And also, memorise interesting and bombastic phrases and points for essay. I'll spend more time on BM because it's one of the two subjects I'm not confident in scoring an A+, another one is English.

On Wednesday, I'll study English. Read some essays and gain some inspirations on what to write.

Starting from Thursday, study Sejarah like HELL. Go through and memorise every single thing within that six days. If I do not procrastinate a lot, I should be able to finish everything, hope so.

After finish Sejarah P3, proceed to science subjects in that three days(mostly Biology, but will mix with some Physics and Chemistry as well). Then I'll start my preparation for Math on Sunday.

Then, after finish Math, continue with science subjects. Next day(the whole day) I'll start Moral. After Moral, Add Math.

After that, in that four days, science subjects especially Biology, need to recall everything. Physics and Chemistry shouldn't be a problem. For Physics, I just need to recall certain chapters and concepts, like light. The same goes to Chemistry, need to recall salt, manufactured and soap.

At 27th of November, after finish tabulation of data for Biology Paper 3, I'm officially announced to be FREE. Only Bahasa Cina and Ekonomi Asas left for most of my friends.

This post has been edited by TheShip: Oct 23 2013, 08:24 PM

Some analysis for BM:





Credits to bmspm.net

Hey guys! Did anyone of you taking chinese literature?

i do

Nice. there's only 2 candidates in my school take this subject -.- so difficult to studyyyyyyy ><

Some students in my school take this, they said it is very simple since it is 90% memorization

Physics

1. A is more than B
2. A > B

which answer your teacher recommends you to write in SPM ?

reporting in 2nd page



anybodys has spot kbkk questions for sejarah paper 3?

This post has been edited by Calvin789: Oct 24 2013, 08:27 AM

My teacher suggested my class to use the 2nd one cause she says the SPM skema's answer is the 2nd one or something

But to be on the safe side, I usually write the 1st one.

This post has been edited by Screen: Oct 24 2013, 09:17 AM

Welcome back

You don't spot them, you bring 20kg of books in and dig the gold in it

This post has been edited by Screen: Oct 24 2013, 09:13 AM

Skipped school today cause didn't study for exam (Moral, Addmaths and Sejarah same day)

State papers progressing slower than expected, only did 1 set of addmaths since waking up.

Btw, anyone has thoughts of creating a Whatsapp group?

agree

Good idea! Would be easier to know everyone's progress and at the same time, it also can put on some pressure on ourselves to keep us moving.

For Physics, I sure that both methods are allowed but I will go for method 1 just because I am more comfortable with it. Go for the one which you're comfortable with!

This post has been edited by ericling: Oct 24 2013, 01:22 PM

- A is more than B
- A is more
- A > B

All three are accepted . I use the third one in structured questions ( saves time ) , but the 2nd in essay questions ( 'cause sometimes it'll be very long , rephrasing the question ) . SPM Physics requires short answers .

He is a marker, not sure for Add.Math or Modern Math though.

5-4 days before I guess, aiming for A+ for BM and BI.

one does not simply dig for KBKK answers in a textbook

@MaximR time to do it!

But one does simply bring in p3 books/internet references and copy like no tomorrow

If only laptop and internet are allowed for p3......

Y　Ｕ No Print Internet References?


Anyways, am I safe to assume that Komsas from 2012/2011 SPM and June Paper won't be coming out?

true kbkk questions cant be found in textbooks

Nothing more can be said ( I don't want to stress out myself and the others ) , but it's safe to say that I can leave aside Physics , Chem , Add Maths , Maths for now .

I think for the next part , it would be Sejarah .

Great idea about creating a whatsapp group!
Do it someone

u took it?
i think ok la, easier compared to chinese
scored A+ during trial

the first one
he said the 2nd one last time can use, but now cannot edi

Just double checked , for Plans and Elevations , your measurements can fall within the range of 0.2 cm for lengths , and 1 deg for angles .

cuzuamazing No , it can still be used . Physics doesn't test our grammar .

Not sure if I should continue doing exercises or focus on refreshing my brain for BM and SEJ.

What say you guys?

I'm reading BM essays over and over again atm since I'm really weak at BM. ( Failed 3 times over the 4 tests this year )
Sej feels alright cause there's a 6 day time span for us to revise, right?

I also didn't pass but trial exam I hardcore study till can get 73 from 38

But now I just focus on komsas(those dramas making me ) and novel...paper 1 okay for me.

Gosh I hate BM's Prosa Klasik/Tradisional..

BTW what's the status of whatsapp group? Maybe BBM group if dont want to reveal phone number

2mm for length is good, but 1 degree is

We have 6 days for Sejarah. Maybe start BM a few days before? Just my 2 cents.

This post has been edited by Heartnsoul: Oct 24 2013, 08:35 PM

yea it is. My mum forced me to take the subject since i can score well in chinese, but i hate it == getting a credit in spm and im satisfied lol

how much u got for chinese and chinese literature in trial?
same story as my biology my bio get C i satisfy already

I can create

Or you guys prefer WeChat

U guys create first, Ill join later once I got my phone fixed..

For science subjects, do u all always attempt another extra question for essays or maybe all? Since the answer schemes are sometimes different, my points always run a little. Is it advisable to attempt all questions as I think I can finish everything in about 2 hours.

My teacher advise me to do it for Math and Add Math. They will pick the highest.

Anyone can confirm will the extra question be marked and the best will be picked? Thanks!

my teacher say can do if enough time and order of question is nt important. highest mark picked.

Confirm. They will mark all and pick the ones with the highest marks. Same applies for Bio, Chem, Phys and Moral.

This post has been edited by mingisms: Oct 24 2013, 11:29 PM

My Sejarah teacher told me this year they are possible to stop mark extra for Sejarah.

There are some reasons behind.

This post has been edited by blacktubi: Oct 24 2013, 11:32 PM

Oh? What reasons? I can see that marking like, seven questions would take a lot of time... but my teacher said they would mark all. I don't think anyone would write seven, though, the most I do is five if I'm writing fast...

It's possible. For STPM, they mark only one if you're asked to choose only one question to answer. I think it begins this year so probably SPM might adopt it as well.

Some internal reasons, PM me if you want to know

I've already started revising my Form 4 Komsas, the only thing that I left now is drama and novel. I'll start Form 5 Komsas on this weekend, if I'm coerced to revise other subjects first, then I might as well leave it till next monday. As for English, I'll try to refresh my memory on novels on next Saturday(2nd Nov) perhaps, it seems rusty for the time being

Haha, you've just enliven my stressful day, I really wonder if there'll be anyone solemn enough to do that.....

Scheme might change year by year.
I think to be safe, better follow the first format but keep the sentence short and direct.

This post has been edited by work_tgr: Oct 25 2013, 12:20 AM

Are you the elected marker?

Just drank coffee, time to burn the midnight oil!

hi guys. i haven't start studying yet . anyone on the same boat

I have question regarding add maths...(yeah I always ask about add maths since I ain't pro in it)...

It's regarding motion along the straight line, paper 2 section C question. In my school my teacher didn't teach us this he said it will be difficult so I went with belum cuba belum tahu attitude and try...ya quite challenging to me at least.



Q. A i) Find the velocity of particle when its acceleration is zero
I think I got this, you just need to integrate a=4t-2 and find the C am I right?

ii) Calculate the value of h
I don't get this

B. Sketch the velocity-time graph for 0 less than or equal to t less than or equal to h. Hence or otherwise, calculate the total distance traveled during that period.
Neither do I get this.

So you say continue practicing start revising later on? Ok thanks for input.

Just my opinion.



This post has been edited by work_tgr: Oct 25 2013, 09:29 AM

Negative, just wondering because you seem to know a lot about the SPM education system.

Just collecting students/ educators POV.

Quite surprised about what your teacher said. IMO Linear Programming (the graph part) is harder than this chapter. It's all about the matter of practices, the more you practice, the easier this chapter becomes, and you will feel like walking on breeze when you answer this question

The answers are below, with brief explanations in it. I'm just not quite sure about part B, others I'm okay with it.

Biology

To catergorise "student", apparatus or material ?

One of the examiners that came to give a seminar said combine apparatus and materials into one entry, so you don't need to classify.

Hmmm ....

---

Btw, I am referring to Paper 3, Q1, sometimes the last question to catergorise a list of items into material and apparatus.

This post has been edited by work_tgr: Oct 25 2013, 11:45 AM

But Linear programming just finding the inequalities abit hard rest okay, though my favorite is still form 4 question for section C.

@ALL :
Btw since we are on the topic of linear programming I also got question

I am not sure if my inequalities are right or otherwise.

Question



Here's what I came up.

1. 3y >= x
2. 60x + 120y =< 4200
3. 150x + 100y =< 6000



Thanks for the heads up.

Yes, sometimes there will be question in P3Q1 where you are required to categorize the apparatus and materials.
Regarding the 'student', it depends on the questions.

Student is a bit hard to picture, but you can imagine with light matches. So imagine in an experiment, you're using matches to measure the LENGTH, where you come out with your results as '1matches, 5 matches etc'. In this case, it's apparatus. As you can use it again.
But in most cases, we use light matches to light up something. So that one match can be only used once, hence it's categorized as material.



This post has been edited by ericling: Oct 25 2013, 11:50 AM

Just a quick question , do you guys practise Modern Maths for the time being ?

Anyway , I'll reduce my visits to this thread nearing SPM as I just want to relax and clear my mind off any mental stimulation or distractions . I've been receiving a lot of messages about forecast questions and 'leaked questions' and I've deleted them all . Anybody who wants to contact me can do so via FB .

Also , I will only add your name to the Candidates List if and only if you've been here , and your posts in this thread must exceed 10 ( I've been receiving a lot of PM's from silent readers , I don't think I can add all of them here ) .

I do, I have a schedule, what day practice what

I see you added a iff

work_tgr , any changes in the mark scheme , if any , will be minimal . LPM wants to test students' mastery in the subjects , not their prowess in memorising answering techniques .

In Physics , diagrams are allowed to explain a certain phenomenon ( e.g refraction of waves as they approach the shore , or explanation on the formation of pattern of water waves under a ripple tank ) and marks are awarded accordingly . There are no strict rules ( tables , essay , point form can all be used ) --- and I'm very sure of that . In these 2 years , I've incessantly questioned SPM markers and attended workshops conducted at school , and all of them point towards the same thing . If you want even more confirmation , take a look at Trial papers' mark schemes .

A > B is always accepted because it's a universal mathematical symbol , and universal mathematical symbols are always accepted in Physics SPM .