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post Oct 22 2013, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 22 2013, 06:49 PM)
A question guys, do you guys take afternoon naps? I rarely take them but nowadays, I find myself very tired in the afternoon(3pm) after studying and if I sleep, I wake up grumpy and dizzy. This results in me not being productive for the rest of the day. Can't cramp those facts in! Any tips?
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I'm in the same boat, dude. Slept for three hours yesterday and woke up feeling like death warmed over. Not a great feeling. I don't usually nap. If I feel groggy, I'll have tea or something, or take a short break to watch a YouTube video or something. I find that watching videos or going on the Internet (ie: just staring at a tiny phone screen probably) keeps me from getting too groggy.

Dunno what works for you, but try to walk around a bit for five or so minutes, or do something else. It takes a bit of forceful focus, but it'll pass eventually (and come back full force around 10-ish).

Try not to eat too much for lunch. Take cold showers. Keep yourself moving at a quick pace. Slowing down and ~relaxing will put you right back in bed.
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post Oct 23 2013, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(kilofi @ Oct 23 2013, 12:55 PM)
Ming anyway to study BM novel? Btw i lack of notes for papa n koserto terakhir.
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Google them, you can get really good notes online.
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post Oct 23 2013, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(chun96 @ Oct 23 2013, 06:15 PM)
13 days till SPM! Feeling extremely stressed.

Anyway, when (date) will you guys start preparation for 'Bahasa Melayu' and English?
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Next Saturday ✌️
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post Oct 24 2013, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Oct 24 2013, 11:03 PM)
My teacher advise me to do it for Math and Add Math. They will pick the highest.

Anyone can confirm will the extra question be marked and the best will be picked? Thanks!
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Confirm. They will mark all and pick the ones with the highest marks. Same applies for Bio, Chem, Phys and Moral.

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post Oct 24 2013, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Oct 24 2013, 11:31 PM)
My Sejarah teacher told me this year they are possible to stop mark extra for Sejarah.

There are some reasons behind.
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Oh? What reasons? I can see that marking like, seven questions would take a lot of time... but my teacher said they would mark all. I don't think anyone would write seven, though, the most I do is five if I'm writing fast...
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post Oct 25 2013, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 25 2013, 01:51 PM)
WeChat!
Well, that's what I'm doing right now. Gonna start with English and BM soon. By the way, how long are the answers you guys provide for Novel BI? I see a lot of sample answers are long, very long... shakehead.gif
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Mine are quite short because I get lazy during exams, but I think I'll write a little longer for SPM. I currently write about a page-length; opening, 3 points and conclusion.
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post Oct 26 2013, 06:44 PM

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Need some help with this question from a Kedah physics trial paper:


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Explanation would be nice. Thanks!
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post Oct 26 2013, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(Intermission @ Oct 26 2013, 07:10 PM)
I am just going to say this and let you figure out the rest.  laugh.gif

Lo + x = 15

Lo + 4x = 45

Lo + 3x = ans
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Thank you!

(You know what I was doing. I was taking 10 as Lo. Oh god. It should've worked out as well but somehow it kind of died somewhere. Holy crap.)

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post Oct 26 2013, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(stjv @ Oct 26 2013, 09:50 PM)
What's the answer? rclxub.gif
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D. 45

Lo + x = 15
Lo + 4x = 45

Simultaneous equation gives you 3x = 30, therefore x = 10.

Sub it in to the first equation:
Lo + 10 = 15, therefore Lo, your original length of spring, is 5cm.

Since x = 20g, 60g is 3x. So the extension would be Lo + 3x = 5 + 3(10) = 35.

Don't forget your original scale reading was 10, so 10 + 35=45.

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post Oct 26 2013, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 26 2013, 11:01 PM)
For plans and elevations , what do you use ? Set squares ?

Do you label the lengths ( which are not needed ) and the letters , like J/K , L/M ?
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Yes. I don't label lengths but all letters are compulsory, are they not?
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post Oct 27 2013, 11:01 AM

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Doing a BM paper 2 and the question is "apakah usaha yang dapat anda lakukan untuk membalas jasa pejuang kemerdekaan Negara."

Checked the answer scheme, they gave answers like "memberi anugerah" and "memberi pendidikan percuma kepada anak veteran" but doesn't the question say ANDA? It just doesn't seem logical that I give then anugerah and pendidikan percuma.
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post Oct 27 2013, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(TheShip @ Oct 27 2013, 11:17 AM)
For me I'll write
-menghayati sejarah perjuagan mereka
-cinta akan negara
-mengekalkan perpaduan
-mengekalkan kedamaian
-taat kepada negara
-menghargai jasa mereka

Is is relevant?
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Here are the answers from the answer scheme:
- memberi elaun bulanan/insentif/ganjaran
- memberi anugerah/gelaran
- rawatan di hospital secara percuma
- kemudahan asas seperti rumah percuma
- bantuan pendidikan kepada anak-anak perjuang kemerdekaan

As you can see, nothing "ANDA" can do. I feel like your answers are relevant, but I can't say for sure.

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post Oct 27 2013, 10:31 PM

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Feeling super antsy and motivated. Can't wait to get SPM over with! Hope everyone is doing well!
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post Oct 31 2013, 10:47 AM

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Seems impossible to spot karangan topics for the recent years... I'm REALLY hoping my mind doesn't go blank during the exam because there's not a lot of preparation I can do for BM 1.
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post Oct 31 2013, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(green_algae @ Oct 31 2013, 01:13 PM)
for bm karangan rangsangan,how long should we write?
some teachers say its necessary to exceed 250 words to get good marks,while some teachers say its better to stick with less than 250 words.
what do you all think?
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We've discussed this before in V1 but I don't remember the resolution.

I will be writing about 450-500 words, however the length of the karangan does not determine your marks. I've seen "cemerlang" level karangans with less than 400 words. They grade you based on your variasi bahasa, ayat gramatis, penggunaan peribahasa/slogan and stuff like that.

The only fear is that you are too brief in your huraian if you try to stick to less than 250 words. If you are able to huraikan and have all the 4 essentials (ayat topik, ayat huraian, ayat contoh, ayat rumusan, or another version, whcih is the IMBaKUP technique) in each paragraph, then by all means, less than 250 words is fine.

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post Oct 31 2013, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 31 2013, 02:07 PM)
Here are some , spotted by my BM teacher :

1 . Faedah menabung
2 . Langkah / Kepentingan Pelancongan
3 . Ciri / Faktor Kecemerlangan Anak-anak / Pelajar
4 . Usaha pupuk minat membaca
5 . Peranan ibu bapa memupuk patriotisme
6 . Langkah balas jasa guru

Seems pretty good to me , I think I might just prepare points , pendahuluans and penutups based on these topics . If none of them comes out , I can add in some of the points I've prepared , and 'goreng' them to perfection .  tongue.gif
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Thanks! It does coincide with the topics my teacher gave, however she also spotted all the MARA questions. I noticed that MARA and SBP questions last year did not come out for SPM, so not sure about the chances.
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QUOTE(chun96 @ Oct 31 2013, 02:59 PM)
For novel question, normally which tense do you guys use? Present or past?
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Past when referring to events, present when referring to characteristics. For example, my novel is Step by Wicked Step.

"Claudia is a hot-tempered girl." And "Claudia went down the stairs to show everyone her green pyjamas."
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post Oct 31 2013, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 31 2013, 02:24 PM)
And what are the questions , if you don't mind sharing / have the time to share .

By the way the feeling that I have currently , I can't seem to explain it . Calm , feeling prepared and unprepared at the same time .
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@5p3ak may recognize this because it's from Pn Azrina icon_rolleyes.gif

1. Lari dari rumah
2. Penderaan kanak-kanak/keganasan rumah tangga
3. peranan ibu bapa membentuk semangat patriotic
4. peranan ibu bapa menanam sikap suka membaca
5. ciri-ciri pelajar cemerlang/berwawasan
6. amalan rumah terbuka
7. peranan ibu bapa menangani masalah obesiti
8. cara-cara meningkatkan kualiti hidup
9. amalan gaya hidup sihat
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post Oct 31 2013, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(1insane @ Oct 31 2013, 08:31 PM)
Worry about my BM cos last year only 1 person in my school got A+. Even the top student who got average marks of 94 miss out on his A+.
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Last year's BM problem was largely because of the section A (question asked for activity, people hurai faedah). Section B had a question on faedah program motivasi and most people wrote faedah terhadap diri which is counted as only one isi.

Always be sure to triple check and quadruple check the question. At the end of each paragraph, remember to kaitkan your paragraph with the kehendak soalan. If they don't specify, don't write specfically. By this I mean:

Assuming the question is "pihak yang bertanggungjawab memupuk semangat patriotisme" and you only write about peranan ibu bapa for 5 isi, it will only be counted as one.

I know it seems simple, but sometimes we can get too excited and forget that the question is not necessarily the same as the one we did.

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post Oct 31 2013, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 31 2013, 09:02 PM)
Ooh I see . So faedah program motivasi kepada semua pihak ? I thought Q1 should be dimensi diri where you talk more about yourself ?

Anyway thanks for the share !
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It should be, but the question was "Berikan pandagan anda tentang faedah-faedah menyertai program motivasi."

As you can see, it doesn't actually literally state "faedah yang anda peroleh". I know that the skema in some books used all "saya" isi's, but according to my friend, her tuition teacher said that it will be counted as ~the same isi unless the way you write them is very distinctly different. Students general write quite general isi then go specific in huraian. Her tuition teacher encouraged her to be specific in the isi. For example:

Instead of "saya mendapat faedah dari segi akademik." Write something like "saya mendapat galakan untuk mencapai kecemerlangan dalam akademik."

This is to show that your isi is not "akademik" but "galakan untuk mencapai kecemerlangan".

I thought that this sounded a lot more like contoh, but apparently contohs have to be more specific than that - something like a situation.

I don't want to confuse anyone here, just warning everyone to be super careful when writing. If any of this contrasts with what your teacher is saying, go with your teacher. It's too late to make drastic changes.

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