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TSmaximR
post Dec 4 2012, 03:10 PM, updated 13y ago

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SPM 2013 Thread


Thread opened since BC and EST are over for SPM 2012 candidates . Only Ekonomi left for most students . Also , I'm feeling a wee bit excited . Let's hope this excitement will last . Front page will be re-updated this time .

To all SPM 2013 candidates , here's something to look out for :

1 .SEJARAH PAPER 3
2 . NO MORE STANDARDISED STATE TRIALS


That's about it for now , rough front page . I shall keep the candidates as they were in the previous form four thread . Any changes , do let me know by dropping me a private message . Thank you .

SPM Candidates

1 . maximR [ Pure Science + Basic Economics , 10 subjects ]
2 . xCALLUM [ Pure Science + Chinese, 10 subjects ]
3 . Calvin789 [ Sub Science with Engineering Drawing , 9 subjects ]
4 . 5p3ak [ Pure Science, 9 subjects ]
5 . Boy96 [ Pure Science + Bahasa Arab , 10 subjects ]
6 . MonfereBlogspot [ Pure Science, 9 subjects ]
7 . flamemusic [ Pure Science + Chinese , 10 subjects ]
8 . ericling [ Pure Science + Accounts + Chinese , 11 subjects ]
9 . Stuffi [ Pure Science + Chinese , 10 subjects ]
10 . adrianccseng [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
11 . Screen [ Sub-Science , 9 subjects ]
12 . iwant2 [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
13 . sukirani [ Pure Science + Music + Chinese , 11 subjects ]
14 . Allium [ Pure Science + Tasawwur Islam, 10 subjects ]
15 . demamkuning [ Sub Science with ICT , 9 subjects ]
16 . luqman999 [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
17 . blacktubi [ Pure Science + Chinese, 10 subjects ]
18 . nazn [ Pure Science + Accounts, 10 subjects ]
19 . TechnoG [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
20 . D-Frog [ Sub-Science , 9 subjects ]
21 . mingisms [ Pure Science + Accounts, 10 subjects ]
22 . scribblez16 [ Pure Science + Accounts , 10 subjects ]
23 . Deathmax [ Pure Science + EST , 10 subjects ]
24 . PoPoBear [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
25 . fourdgrace [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
26 . Unleashed [ Pure Science + Tasawwur Islam + Bahasa Arab , 11 subjects ]
27 . green_algae [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
28 . superific6 [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
29 . syed shams [ Pure Science + Pendidikan Syariah Islamiah + Pendidikan Quran Sunnah + Bahasa Arab , 11 subjects ]
30 . Azer96 [ Pure Science + Engineering Drawing , 10 subjects ]
31 . ZenXL [ Arts + Commerce , 9 subjects ]
32 . JunHan [ Pure Science + Accounts + Chinese , 11 subjects ]
33 . sporesan [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
34 . x3cream [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
35 . xZean [ Pure Science + Chinese , 10 subjects ]
36 . assymessy [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
37 . SoulLeapers [ Pure Science + ICT , 10 subjects ]
38 . mooney [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
39 . rifaatx [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
40 . -CoupeFanatic- [ Pure Science + Basic Economics + Chinese, 11 subjects ]
41 . dccldccl [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
42 . kailangley [ Pure Science + ICT , 10 subjects ]
43 . vitaminpeeler [ Pure Science + ICT + Bible Knowledge , 11 subjects ]
44 . Xanfiore [ Accounts + Visual Arts + English Literature , 11 subjects ]
45 . Hertz96 [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
46 . devillightning1 [ Commerce , 9 subjects ]
47 . timothy_ren [ Sub Science + EST and Accounts , 10 subjects ]
48 . manutd96 [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
49 . Bugger96 [ Pure Science + Bible Knowledge , 10 subjects ]
50 . Genso [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
51 . cuzuamazing [ Pure Science + Chinese + Chinese Literature , 11 subjects ]
52 . laptopgirl [ Pure Science + Literature in English , 10 subjects ]

List of subjects , according to streams

Core subjects
Bahasa Melayu
English
Mathematics
Moral Education / Islamic Studies
History
General Science [ for non-science students ]

Pure Science
Additional Mathematics
Physics
Chemistry
Biology

Science and Technology
English for Science and Technology [ EST ]
Information Technology and Communication [ ICT ]
Applied Science
Applied Mathematics
Fundamentals of Programming

Commerce
Additional Mathematics
Principles of Accounting
Basic Economics
Commerce [ Perdagangan ]

Arts/Humanities/Languages
Commerce
Visual Arts
Geography
Literature in English
Kesusasteraan Melayu
Chinese Literature
Tamil Literature

Religion
Bible Knowledge
Tasawwur Islam

Grade System

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Please PM me your streams + number of subjects , and I'll update the list . Any names missing , do let me know .

List of Useful Websites / Resources

Trial SPM Papers

Joshuatlyhttp://edu.joshuatly.com/category/spm/

Bahasa Melayu

BM SPM [ Highly Recommended Website for BM ]
LamanBahasa KOMSAS [ Contains all the notes for KOMSAS, official ones by BPK ]
Cikgu Mohd Khir Kassim [ Highly experienced, Guru Cemerlang in BM SPM/STPM ]
Dr. Ghazali Lateh [ Another highly experienced teacher with lots of sample essays for BM ]

English

SPM English 1119
Learn Teach Love [ An English teacher's blog , contains some useful info ]

Any more useful finds / links are welcomed . Let us make this thing grow .

This post has been edited by maximR: Sep 20 2013, 09:40 PM
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post Dec 4 2012, 03:21 PM

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post Dec 4 2012, 03:22 PM

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kolos
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QUOTE(CliffrisonJr. @ Dec 4 2012, 03:22 PM)
kolos
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post Dec 4 2012, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(maximR @ Dec 4 2012, 03:29 PM)
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post Dec 4 2012, 03:34 PM

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"this thread won't magically close down on its own by just saying KOLOS." - Abraham Lincoln

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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Dec 4 2012, 03:34 PM)
"this thread won't magically close down on its own by just saying KOLOS." - monyet stesen
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post Dec 4 2012, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Dec 4 2012, 03:34 PM)
"this thread won't magically close down on its own by just saying KOLOS." - monyet stesen
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The 2012 one is about to die . sad.gif


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QUOTE(CliffrisonJr. @ Dec 4 2012, 03:36 PM)
supermoto siggy liao? unsure.gif
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No la...Just Abraham Lincoln mia quote..

QUOTE(maximR @ Dec 4 2012, 03:36 PM)
The 2012 one is about to die .  sad.gif


Added on December 4, 2012, 3:37 pm

The 2012 one is about to die .  sad.gif
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I'm kinda okay with it.. ... yeah.

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post Dec 4 2012, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Love.Yuan @ Dec 4 2012, 03:41 PM)
Gambateh ! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Dec 4 2012, 03:39 PM)
No la...Just Abraham Lincoln mia quote..
I'm kinda okay with it.. ... yeah.
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QUOTE(CliffrisonJr. @ Dec 4 2012, 03:44 PM)
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i don't think that adding paper 3 for sejarah is going to help the students.. maybe it'll help to pass but getting A+? not so sure tongue.gif
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QUOTE(anggaPra @ Dec 4 2012, 03:58 PM)
i don't think that adding paper 3 for sejarah is going to help the students.. maybe it'll help to pass but getting A+? not so sure tongue.gif
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Precisely . Spent the entire year without knowing much about it . I hope there will be more resources next year , for paper 3 .
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post Dec 4 2012, 04:06 PM

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So fast kolos form 4 thread meh?

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Not even January yet...walao so fast
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QUOTE(maximR @ Dec 4 2012, 04:01 PM)
Precisely . Spent the entire year without knowing much about it . I hope there will be more resources next year , for paper 3 .
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and it's not ready yet for examination purpose but it has been used already.. doh.gif
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posting on 1st page... BTW thanks for iwant2 for the bday wish..
i busy with tennis tournament.. no time to even turn on my laptop
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Great links there, good job TS and the Lum guy smile.gif
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Dec 4 2012, 09:19 PM)
Great links there, good job TS and the Lum guy smile.gif
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Yeeer 2012 not yet over already open 2013 punya tered
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QUOTE(hyunterx @ Dec 4 2012, 10:41 PM)
Yeeer 2012 not yet over already open 2013 punya tered
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I did it for the PMR 2011 thread too .
When it comes to education , nothing is too early . tongue.gif
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QUOTE(maximR @ Dec 4 2012, 10:47 PM)
I did it for the PMR 2011 thread too .
When it comes to education , nothing is too early .  tongue.gif
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Okay, so you planned your next stop after SPM? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Dec 4 2012, 11:02 PM)
Okay, so you planned your next stop after SPM? tongue.gif
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Some sort of pre-university course and SAT .

A-Levels , STPM or IB ( incredibly expensive , possible only with a scholarship ) would do just fine .
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QUOTE(maximR @ Dec 4 2012, 11:04 PM)
Some sort of pre-university course and SAT .

A-Levels , STPM or IB ( incredibly expensive , possible only with a scholarship ) would do just fine .
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I mean field or faculty hmm.gif

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Dec 4 2012, 11:05 PM)
I mean field or faculty hmm.gif
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QUOTE(maximR @ Dec 4 2012, 11:08 PM)
Undecided .  biggrin.gif You ?
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Endicided

Initially engineering field

Slowly I found out Accountancy and actuarial seem quite interesting

Thus, undecided tongue.gif

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Hey put me in, I'm a 2013 SPM candidate too! Name's Assy.

(Pure Science, 9 Subjects)

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QUOTE(assymessy @ Dec 4 2012, 11:26 PM)
Hey put me in, I'm a 2013 SPM candidate too! Name's Assy.

(Pure Science, 9 Subjects)
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Checking in. Tuition for form 5 subjects have started already..
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QUOTE(ichigo_6091 @ Dec 5 2012, 10:12 PM)
For those taking Bio,good luck,lol
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Hi guys smile.gif

Taking intensive add maths form 5 tuition...omg everyday at least 40 questions to do...sometimes 90+ questions and need to hand in the next day.

Because of this my whole november used to learn next year's add maths chapter 1, 2 and 3 already *pening*

Frankly speaking I've never been this hardworking (doing homework) compared to my form 4 dayz biggrin.gif

BTW SPM 2013 candidate here too rclxms.gif Pure science (9 subjects) + ICT

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Checking in. Went for tution for add maths and physics, end up going for physics only. What a lazy guy.
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checking in, pure science 9 subs
btw, 2 . NO MORE STANDARDISED STATE TRIALS
what does this mean?
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QUOTE(VonGoLaDeciMo @ Dec 9 2012, 05:26 PM)
checking in, pure science 9 subs
btw, 2 . NO MORE STANDARDISED STATE TRIALS
what does this mean?
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No more Trial Selangor , Trial Perak ... You get the idea . All set by schools .
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QUOTE(SoulLeapers @ Dec 6 2012, 06:58 PM)
Hi guys smile.gif

Taking intensive add maths form 5 tuition...omg everyday at least 40 questions to do...sometimes 90+ questions and need to hand in the next day.

Because of this my whole november used to learn next year's add maths chapter 1, 2 and 3 already *pening*

Frankly speaking I've never been this hardworking (doing homework) compared to my form 4 dayz biggrin.gif

BTW SPM 2013 candidate here too  rclxms.gif Pure science (9 subjects) + ICT
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Good early start.

Anyone faces early obstacles in your studies, feel free to post them here, regardless of the subject.
I'll be monitoring to answer your doubts.
Good luck to this batch.
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QUOTE(reconnaissance @ Dec 9 2012, 06:10 PM)
Good early start.

Anyone faces early obstacles in your studies, feel free to post them here, regardless of the subject.
I'll be monitoring to answer your doubts.
Good luck to this batch.
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I have a question :

Hydrophobic molecules can pass through the plasma membrane due to the fatty acid tails that are non-polar .

But why can those molecules enter the plasma membrane when there are hydrophilic heads ( polar ) in the first place ?

Also , I bought an IGCSE CIE Chemistry book ( the Cambridge one with a CD ) . It supplements my usual Chemistry SPM book really well , glossy pages and lots of colours . Very interesting ! laugh.gif

It is also interesting to note that we're the only country that uses periods to separate the number of electrons in each energy level / shell . Like 2.8.8 , but in other parts around the world besides Malaysia , commas are used , like 2,8,8 . Weird huh ?


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QUOTE(SoulLeapers @ Dec 6 2012, 06:58 PM)
Hi guys smile.gif

Taking intensive add maths form 5 tuition...omg everyday at least 40 questions to do...sometimes 90+ questions and need to hand in the next day.

Because of this my whole november used to learn next year's add maths chapter 1, 2 and 3 already *pening*

Frankly speaking I've never been this hardworking (doing homework) compared to my form 4 dayz biggrin.gif

BTW SPM 2013 candidate here too  rclxms.gif Pure science (9 subjects) + ICT
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Added you . Welcome ! nod.gif

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QUOTE(maximR @ Dec 10 2012, 04:05 PM)
Yes, or else there wouldn't be time in form five .
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Fuyoooooo, the SPM 2013 thread is already up!
Anyway, good luck for your SPM, guys. I sat for SPM 2012!

Do remember to enjoy your last year of secondary school. wink.gif
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QUOTE(blueflame @ Dec 11 2012, 08:58 AM)
Fuyoooooo, the SPM 2013 thread is already up!
Anyway, good luck for your SPM, guys. I sat for SPM 2012!

Do remember to enjoy your last year of secondary school. wink.gif
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good luck ya.. I have a bunch of good and useful collection of spm info n guides for certain subjects which I've used and compiled throughout the year.. will tidy em up and post here soon. smile.gif


Added on December 11, 2012, 11:26 amBM

*BM Tatabahasa (refresh ur mind--)
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2...78603385&type=3

*Peribahasa question's contoh & collection.. pretty good to read through and easily remembered
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2...78603385&type=1

*All peribahasa from TEXTBOOK (since they're all from tb, it's safer to read n memorize all of em if possible)
http://seva-yangindahitubahasa.blogspot.co...-peibahasa.html

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BI

*SPMENG1119
http://spmenglish1119.blogspot.com/
(check out the overused word post..! Interesting!)

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华文

× 全部名句精华 (ignore others like a bawss, just focus on 中四 n 中五)
http://spm4all.blogspot.com/2010/01/blog-post.html

× 公函常用词汇 (棒!!! thumbup.gif
http://spm4all.blogspot.com/2010/01/blog-post_12.html

× 2011各州SPM预考试卷一-应用文参考范文
(URL too long, click on the link above)

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Physics

*Form 4 & Form 5 EXPERIMENTS (preparation for Paper 3, study these frequently.. simplified notes.. better than SUCCESS book, flip here flip there till pening)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/52176276/F4-Experiments
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35722873/F5-Experiments

*Chng Tuition (just watchout for the tips&predictions given by this teacher, definitely not 100% accurattey but still this year's tip kena a few.. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif )
http://chngtuition.blogspot.com/

*Physics online blog (useful notes n advices over there, go to the main page for more)
http://www.physics4spm.com/2009/06/spm-tip...t-analysis.html

*physic mnemonic for f5 c1.. 2 sec confirm remember already blush.gif
Electromagnetic Spectrum - Raymond May I Visit Ur X Girlfriend ~ Radio,micro,infrared,visible,ultraviolet,xray,gammaray tongue.gif
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Chemistry

*BerryBerryEasy's note & tips +lots of useful info about peka..etc there ( for bio n phy too)
http://berryberryeasy.com/berry-notes/

*Chng Tuition (watch out for tips&predictions for SPM. even trial exam, you can get state paper & past years over there too)
http://chngtuition.blogspot.com/

*ultra short notes for CHEM (ECS use ur own mnemonic..Homologous series.. electrolysis etc, compiled notes, look through it before steppin into exam hall rolleyes.gif )
http://www.mediafire.com/?97dar2ph198gt9j
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Maths & Add Maths

*(Interactive) Y=mx+c (*ask any mt question over there and you'll get your answer, the teacher over there is an expert.. posted a lot of videos and tuts.. Malaysia version of KhanAcademy?lol sweat.gif )
http://www.facebook.com/maths.video

*Calculator fx570 "tricks" (can be used to recheck your ans in a faster way)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/34408924/Calculator-fx570

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Pendidikan Moral

*Answering techniques (from teacher's forum.. so it's safe to follow, if not just follow what ur sch teacher tells u)
http://forum.engkabang.net/index.php/topic,48018.0.html

*Dasar,akta,pihak etc
http://www.scribd.com/doc/55722038/KANDUNG...DIKAN-MORAL-SPM

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Sejarah

*Caknasejarah (altho the tips given for spm2012 is quite inaccurate.. still I guess it's useful.. saw some information about sj paper 3 over here)
http://caknasejarah.blogspot.com/

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Prinsip Perakaunan

*Akaundaerahjb (notes, latihan tubi, analisis over there thumbup.gif )
http://akaundaerahjb.blogspot.com/


ULTIMATE RESOURCES
http://spm4all.blogspot.com/2010/01/site-t...candidates.html

That's all the useful resources I've bookmarked throughout the year~ I hope they'll be useful to you all.
Do print them out for certain short notes which you think they're useful to you..

Good luck to all 2013 spm candidates.. :3

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I am so free , so just give some comments .

Form 5 science and math subjects is harder than Form4 especially Bio though it have less chapter than Form4.

Biology - chapter 3 ( Very important , but SPM 2012 didnt come out in paper2 , but paper 3 )
Chemistry - My fav tongue.gif Chapter 2 Organic Compound is quite hard because need to remember a lot and u need to do a lot of exersice .
Chapter 3 Redox - Related to Chapter6 ( Form4 ) This chapter important .
Physics - No comment .

Btw , objective is easy to get >45 if u do a lot and DONT make any silly mistake ( Always circle the KEYWORDs before u choose the answer ) . I could only get 38/50 in trial ( physics ) but after i spamed 10+ set objective paper i got 48/50 in SPM biggrin.gif

Additional Math and Math u just need to do a lot , then sure u can smile.gif

Good luck to all 2013 SPM candidates

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I must thank you seniors for all the wonderful advices . I shall include some of the links on the front page .

To form four students . How are the revisions coming along ?
I'm in the process of revising my form four stuff , salts , some chapters on physics and also the entire form four biology .
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good luck ya.. I have a bunch of good and useful collection of spm info n guides for certain subjects which I've used and compiled throughout the year.. will tidy em up and post here soon. smile.gif


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For someone that is not really interested in pure science, will pure science be hard for them? I heard many ppl say it is hard but due to wat? Too much work? Can't understand? Too many things to rmb?
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For someone that is not really interested in pure science, will pure science be hard for them? I heard many ppl say it is hard but due to wat? Too much work? Can't understand? Too many things to rmb?
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The main distinction between pure science and sub-science is Biology .

It really depends whether you are interested in the sciences or not . For one , if you're not interested , it will be harder for you to understand the concepts . There are a lot of concepts to be understood in each of the science subjects . Biology requires intensive reading , retention , recalling and application of facts . It's not easy . But if you're willing to work hard , it's manageable .

Arts is definitely easier in my opinion . I know this because I'm taking Ekonomi Asas too as an extra subject , just reading , some basic calculations and graph drawing and you're good to go . No practical work like what you'd expect in any of the sciences .

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For someone that is not really interested in pure science, will pure science be hard for them? I heard many ppl say it is hard but due to wat? Too much work? Can't understand? Too many things to rmb?
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If you put in more effort, it'll not be hard, but for those who are not interested they'll be having more stress and problems (understanding..memorizing..etc)

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Too many things to rmb? Put in more effort to think and spend more time, more practice. bruce.gif

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I admit, I'm impressed that you guys are starting preparations for SPM so early. Haha when I took SPM a couple of years back I didn't think about it until about a month before the actual papers.

Though, if anyone needs any help, I'll try to help whenever I can. My knowledge of certain disciplines might have deteriorated a lot over time though.
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QUOTE(maximR @ Dec 11 2012, 10:07 PM)
The main distinction between pure science and sub-science is Biology .

It really depends whether you are interested in the sciences or not . For one , if you're not interested , it will be harder for you to understand the concepts . There are a lot of concepts to be understood in each of the science subjects . Biology requires intensive reading , retention , recalling and application of facts . It's not easy . But if you're willing to work hard , it's manageable .

Arts is definitely easier in my opinion . I know this because I'm taking Ekonomi Asas too as an extra subject , just reading , some basic calculations and graph drawing and you're good to go . No practical work like what you'd expect in any of the sciences .
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For me, I really dont like drawing and arts, I suck at that.

I have interest in Science, but exam proved that I am not really good at it, how?

For Bio, I really hate anything related to animal and plants...
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I have a question :

Hydrophobic molecules can pass through the plasma membrane due to the fatty acid tails that are non-polar .

But why can those molecules enter the plasma membrane when there are hydrophilic heads ( polar ) in the first place ?

Also , I bought an IGCSE CIE Chemistry book ( the Cambridge one with a CD ) . It supplements my usual Chemistry SPM book really well , glossy pages and lots of colours . Very interesting !  laugh.gif

It is also interesting to note that we're the only country that uses periods to separate the number of electrons in each energy level / shell . Like 2.8.8 , but in other parts around the world besides Malaysia , commas are used , like 2,8,8 . Weird huh ?


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Couldn't really comprehend your question, but I will try to explain to the extent of my comprehension.
The plasma membrane is a phospholipid bilayer which are generally impermeable to polar molecules or ions, due to the arrangement of hydrophilic heads and hydrophobic tails that permits passive diffusion of hydrophobic molecules but not polar solutes. For other than hydrophobic molecules, in such polar solutes such as nucleic acids or amino acids, diffusion or dialysis occurs via transmembrane protein complexes. The movement of substances through the plasma membrane is the product of the arrangement of the heads and tails, not either one alone.

Congratulations on getting yourself an international view of the syllabus. Yes, there are small but undistinct differences among our standards. I do prefer using the one accepted better by the international community, though do adhere to the format of each individual examination. What about other subjects?

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Couldn't really comprehend your question, but I will try to explain to the extent of my comprehension.
The plasma membrane is a phospholipid bilayer which are generally impermeable to polar molecules or ions, due to the arrangement of hydrophilic heads and hydrophobic tails that permits passive diffusion of hydrophobic molecules but not polar solutes. For other than hydrophobic molecules, in such polar solutes such as nucleic acids or amino acids, diffusion or dialysis occurs via transmembrane protein complexes. The movement of substances through the plasma membrane is the product of the arrangement of the heads and tails, not either one alone.

Congratulations on getting yourself an international view of the syllabus. Yes, there are small but undistinct differences among our standards. I do prefer using the one accepted better by the international community, though do adhere to the format of each individual examination. What about other subjects?
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Why does the product of heads and tails permit hydrophobic molecules from moving across the plasma membrane , but not polar ones ?

Does that mean hydrophobic molecules are unaffected by the polar heads ? Sorry , my biochemistry is still not that solid .

Where do you normally buy your textbooks / reference books ? Kinokuniya ? They are pretty expensive .

I also bought a CIE AS / A Level Economics book , the one that's endorsed by CIE . SAT Literature by Princeton , SAT Biology E/M by Kaplan , IB Geography ( it was priced at RM8 biggrin.gif ) , SAT Subjects Test Official Book by CollegeBoard , Economics for IGCSE and O Level ( the older version ) , Barron's Physics ( just a physics textbook , not a test prep book ) and Cliff Note's Biology Study Solution .

I didn't buy the AP books and when I went back the second time , they were all gone . My friend who went there to get his IB books , got 4 which are Maths SL and HL , Economics , English Literature and Biology and several more A Level books . sad.gif I just didn't have luck that time .

I saw many parents buying IB books for their children . Didn't know there were so many IB students in Malaysia , especially around Selangor . I also talked to a guy who recommended AP instead of IB . I'm still unsure . He said I could self study for it , and it is an equivalent to any one of the traditional pre-u courses . Is this true ?

I really like how these IGCSE topics are organised , especially the chemical analysis part ( how to prepare and collect gases , test for ions , etc . They were really comprehensive . ) Wish I could grab hold of more IGCSE books for a lower price .


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Alright thx. I think I'll just give it a go.
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Alright thx. I think I'll just give it a go.
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Good . If you cannot handle the subjects , you can always switch after a month . Any issues , feel free to PM me or seniors around here .
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Why does the product of heads and tails permit hydrophobic molecules from moving across the plasma membrane , but not polar ones ?

Does that mean hydrophobic molecules are unaffected by the polar heads ? Sorry , my biochemistry is still not that solid .

Where do you normally buy your textbooks / reference books ? Kinokuniya ? They are pretty expensive .

I also bought a CIE AS / A Level Economics book , the one that's endorsed by CIE . SAT Literature by Princeton , SAT Biology E/M by Kaplan , IB Geography ( it was priced at RM8 biggrin.gif ) , SAT Subjects Test Official Book by CollegeBoard , Economics for IGCSE and O Level ( the older version ) , Barron's Physics ( just a physics textbook , not a test prep book ) and Cliff Note's Biology Study Solution .

I didn't buy the AP books and when I went back the second time , they were all gone . My friend who went there to get his IB books , got 4 which are Maths SL and HL , Economics , English Literature and Biology and several more A Level books .  sad.gif I just didn't have luck that time .

I saw many parents buying IB books for their children . Didn't know there were so many IB students in Malaysia , especially around Selangor . I also talked to a guy who recommended AP instead of IB . I'm still unsure . He said I could self study for it , and it is an equivalent to any one of the traditional pre-u courses . Is this true ?

I really like how these IGCSE topics are organised , especially the chemical analysis part ( how to prepare and collect gases , test for ions , etc . They were really comprehensive . ) Wish I could grab hold of more IGCSE books for a lower price .
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Like property (in this context, hydrophilic or hydrophobic) attracts each other, in such a way, hydrophilic molecules are atrracted to hydrophilic molecules and vice-versa.
The phospholipid bilayer suggests hydrophilic heads, and hydrophobic tails, alligned in opposite sequence with tiny openings between them.
So, hydrophobic molecules have no problem entering via the bilayer as there is a long region of hydrophobic tails.
The hydrophilic heads are relatively too small to repel the molecules compared to the longer hydrophobic tails.
Hydrophilic molecules are repelled heavily by the longer hydrophobic tails, so not manage to travel through.
This makes plasma membrane impermeable to hydrophilic molecules, but selectively permeable to hydrophobes.
All that, plus the potential difference in concentration gradient, forces that either one must go through.

Good start with your tertiary education with those books.
AP allows private candidates, which means self-study is possible so there is no definite requisite for schooling, and enables full flexibility in choices. In comparison, one cannot take up the IB if not enrolled in any IB World schools, so no self-study is possible.
IB also limits flexibility by imposing a must on 6 subjects, all of different fields.
That is good to produce a wholesome student, from a non-competitive community. However, the problem lies in not allowing students to take more than 6 subjects, or the gifted to take more than 4 HL subjects.
Internationally, AP is regarded equally as IB, however, unofficially, I believe most are more impress with one having the IB Diploma.
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Good . If you cannot handle the subjects , you can always switch after a month . Any issues , feel free to PM me or seniors around here  .
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Sure. But the thing is, my school dun have sub science. So if drop, my next 1 will be accounts. If got sub science, I early already decide on it.
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QUOTE(reconnaissance @ Dec 12 2012, 11:01 PM)
Like property (in this context, hydrophilic or hydrophobic) attracts each other, in such a way, hydrophilic molecules are atrracted to hydrophilic molecules and vice-versa.
The phospholipid bilayer suggests hydrophilic heads, and hydrophobic tails, alligned in opposite sequence with tiny openings between them.
So, hydrophobic molecules have no problem entering via the bilayer as there is a long region of hydrophobic tails.
The hydrophilic heads are relatively too small to repel the molecules compared to the longer hydrophobic tails.
Hydrophilic molecules are repelled heavily by the longer hydrophobic tails, so not manage to travel through.
This makes plasma membrane impermeable to hydrophilic molecules, but selectively permeable to hydrophobes.
All that, plus the potential difference in concentration gradient, forces that either one must go through.

Good start with your tertiary education with those books.
AP allows private candidates, which means self-study is possible so there is no definite requisite for schooling, and enables full flexibility in choices. In comparison, one cannot take up the IB if not enrolled in any IB World schools, so no self-study is possible.
IB also limits flexibility by imposing a must on 6 subjects, all of different fields.
That is good to produce a wholesome student, from a non-competitive community. However, the problem lies in not allowing students to take more than 6 subjects, or the gifted to take more than 4 HL subjects.
Internationally, AP is regarded equally as IB, however, unofficially, I believe most are more impress with one having the IB Diploma.
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Thank you ! I understand now .

So - from your explanations , can I just take these AP tests without A Level / STPM / IB ? Would it be risky ? Because if I fail to earn a place in one of those US universities , I need some back-up plans like Singapore or UK .
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Thank you ! I understand now .

So - from your explanations , can I just take these AP tests without A Level / STPM / IB ? Would it be risky ? Because if I fail to earn a place in one of those US universities , I need some back-up plans like Singapore or UK .
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AP is accepted worldwide, with the exception of being slightly vague in Asian countries.
If you fulfill the criteria, you can earn the Advance Placement International Diploma.
But, it is a lot riskier not following the trended traditional routes, though one who embraces risk embraces change.
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SPM is next year. Crap... I'm gonna try to aim for 9A+. I've started um... studying on December. I was TOTALLY FREE AND WAS RESTING BECAUSE I JUST FINISHED FINALS DURING NOVEMBER. NOBODY ASKED ME OUT. Then when I'm on my studying month... SUDDENLY EVERYBODY WANTS TO ASK ME OUT. WTF UGHHH ANNOYING.

So I've covered....

Chemistry = (3/8) chapters
Biology = (2/8) chapters
Add. Maths = (3/11) Chapters
Physics = (0.5/4) chapters. I don't count the first chap
Sejarah = (1/10) chapters.

UGHHH I'm running out of time fml....

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SPM is next year. Crap... I'm gonna try to aim for 9A+. I've started um... studying on December. I was TOTALLY FREE AND WAS RESTING BECAUSE I JUST FINISHED FINALS DURING NOVEMBER. NOBODY ASKED ME OUT. Then when I'm on my studying month... SUDDENLY EVERYBODY WANTS TO ASK ME OUT. WTF UGHHH ANNOYING.

So I've covered....

Chemistry = (3/8) chapters
Biology = (2/8) chapters
Add. Maths = (3/11) Chapters
Physics = (0.5/4) chapters. I don't count the first chap
Sejarah = (1/10) chapters.

UGHHH I'm running out of time fml....
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To be honest, one can cover the syllabi of non-calculative subjects in just one month.
Focus on your calculative sciences, practical/vocational subjecrs and mathematics, and leave reading subjects at the ending.
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QUOTE(reconnaissance @ Dec 12 2012, 11:57 PM)
To be honest, one can cover the syllabi of non-calculative subjects in just one month.
Focus on your calculative sciences, practical/vocational subjecrs and mathematics, and leave reading subjects at the ending.
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You mean Physics + Add Maths + Maths ? But Biology and Chemistry are quite painful too. not to mention the Form 5 syllabus seems harder. I'm scared!
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You mean Physics + Add Maths + Maths ? But Biology and Chemistry are quite painful too. not to mention the Form 5 syllabus seems harder. I'm scared!
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I did not study SPM F4 at all when I was a year younger.
Yes, that are the few to focus first, with the inclusion of Chemistry. Chemistry has a focus on calculation in all years.
Biology is just memory test, with of course, their comprehension.
You worry too much. When time comes, you will get it somehow, and if you don't, I am here to aid.
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I did not study SPM F4 at all when I was a year younger.
Yes, that are the few to focus first, with the inclusion of Chemistry. Chemistry has a focus on calculation in all years.
Biology is just memory test, with of course, their comprehension.
You worry too much. When time comes, you will get it somehow, and if you don't, I am here to aid.
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So aid me at what should I do or revise this december ?
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So aid me at what should I do or revise this december ?
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Sure.
Prepare a planner. List down your subjects.
Let's finish them completely by the order of feasibility.
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QUOTE(assymessy @ Dec 12 2012, 11:53 PM)
SPM is next year. Crap... I'm gonna try to aim for 9A+. I've started um... studying on December. I was TOTALLY FREE AND WAS RESTING BECAUSE I JUST FINISHED FINALS DURING NOVEMBER. NOBODY ASKED ME OUT. Then when I'm on my studying month... SUDDENLY EVERYBODY WANTS TO ASK ME OUT. WTF UGHHH ANNOYING.

So I've covered....

Chemistry = (3/8) chapters
Biology = (2/8) chapters
Add. Maths = (3/11) Chapters
Physics = (0.5/4) chapters. I don't count the first chap
Sejarah = (1/10) chapters.

UGHHH I'm running out of time fml....
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These are form five chapters or form four ?


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These are form five chapters or form four ?
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Form four.
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QUOTE(assymessy @ Dec 13 2012, 09:37 PM)
Form four.
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I'm pretty okay with Physics , Chemistry , Maths and Add Maths .
Just need to brush up on light , salts , manufactured substances in industry and solutions of a triangle .

The same can't be said about Biology and Sejarah though . May need to do some intensive studying on the later chapters of Biology and also the long Islamic Civilisation chapters .
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I'm pretty okay with Physics , Chemistry , Maths and Add Maths .
Just need to brush up on light , salts , manufactured substances in industry and solutions of a triangle .

The same can't be said about Biology and Sejarah though . May need to do some intensive studying on the later chapters of Biology and also the long Islamic Civilisation chapters .
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I'm good to go with Biology and Chemistry.

The mathematical except Modern Maths subjects... WELL. But now I see it add.maths is quite easy since I've been doing tons of exercises.
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QUOTE(assymessy @ Dec 14 2012, 10:40 PM)
I'm good to go with Biology and Chemistry.

The mathematical except Modern Maths subjects... WELL. But now I see it add.maths is quite easy since I've been doing tons of exercises.
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You've covered your Biology and Chemistry chapters already ? All of them ? Wow , you're fast .

I procrastinate a lot , and distractions here and there tempt me all the time . Especially with the internet and non-SPM books lying around . tongue.gif
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QUOTE(maximR @ Dec 12 2012, 11:14 PM)
Thank you ! I understand now .

So - from your explanations , can I just take these AP tests without A Level / STPM / IB ? Would it be risky ? Because if I fail to earn a place in one of those US universities , I need some back-up plans like Singapore or UK .
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QUOTE(reconnaissance @ Dec 12 2012, 11:46 PM)
AP is accepted worldwide, with the exception of being slightly vague in Asian countries.
If you fulfill the criteria, you can earn the Advance Placement International Diploma.
But, it is a lot riskier not following the trended traditional routes, though one who embraces risk embraces change.
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Just to add a bit to the discussion here, from my experience, some US universities prefer you to have a Year 12, ie A-Levels or STPM. And depending on the university, you might even be able to transfer credit from your Year 12, which is equivalent to taking AP tests for credits in those courses. In my case, I was basically able to transfer credit for my first year Math, Physics and Chem courses from my A-levels.

Though, it is rather subjective, and very much dependent upon the university you're applying to. If you're in no particular rush to head overseas, I would recommend A-levels; it's probably one of the more versatile pre-U courses around. And occasionally, goals change as you go up the education level; taking a pre-U course might allow you extra time to think.
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QUOTE(p3nguin @ Dec 15 2012, 01:40 AM)
Just to add a bit to the discussion here, from my experience, some US universities prefer you to have a Year 12, ie A-Levels or STPM. And depending on the university, you might even be able to transfer credit from your Year 12, which is equivalent to taking AP tests for credits in those courses. In my case, I was basically able to transfer credit for my first year Math, Physics and Chem courses from my A-levels.

Though, it is rather subjective, and very much dependent upon the university you're applying to. If you're in no particular rush to head overseas, I would recommend A-levels; it's probably one of the more versatile pre-U courses around. And occasionally, goals change as you go up the education level; taking a pre-U course might allow you extra time to think.
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They would want K-12 education, which are Year 12 equivalent programs, such as the pre-u as we know them, but not necessarily completing 12 academic years.
A-Levels is also accepted, and grants credits equally to the AP, providing opportunities for even advanced standings in US or Canada.
But the topic of AP being a viable option is due to its extreme price differences between it and the rest, with STPM excluded.
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QUOTE(reconnaissance @ Dec 15 2012, 01:45 AM)
They would want K-12 education, which are Year 12 equivalent programs, such as the pre-u as we know them, but not necessarily completing 12 academic years.
A-Levels is also accepted, and grants credits equally to the AP, providing opportunities for even advanced standings in US or Canada.
But the topic of AP being a viable option is due to its extreme price differences between it and the rest, with STPM excluded.
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Well that's very fair point. Although, I don't think I know anyone whom has done AP courses in Malaysia. Could be me just being extremely unobservant though. Just a question out of curiosity, would you happen to know which places offer AP courses for transfer into the states?
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Well that's very fair point. Although, I don't think I know anyone whom has done AP courses in Malaysia. Could be me just being extremely unobservant though. Just a question out of curiosity, would you happen to know which places offer AP courses for transfer into the states?
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The Malaysian-American Council on Education Exchange (MACEE) handles most testing from US, including the AP and SAT.
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Well that's very fair point. Although, I don't think I know anyone whom has done AP courses in Malaysia. Could be me just being extremely unobservant though. Just a question out of curiosity, would you happen to know which places offer AP courses for transfer into the states?
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The thing is with only 4 or 5 subjects at A levels, you can only get a handful of credits out of them.
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I don't know if this sounds childish or what but is it possible to continue my study for Pharmacy in Japan and possibly live there and become a pharmacist there ?
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I don't know if this sounds childish or what but is it possible to continue my study for Pharmacy in Japan and possibly live there and become a pharmacist there ?
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Of course it is possible.
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Like how and what should I do from now ? Can I apply scholarship? Malay one and will I go through like all those people in Malaysia who took like language courses in Japanese or Korean in some university before going there ? Because I know I need to master Japanese first... but yeah I want to migrate to Japan if it's possible out of personal reasons.
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Hi guys, I just stumble across an Add-Maths chapter 1 question, and I'm not sure what the question really mean.

Function f(x) = 12/hx+k

x =/= -k/h,
f(0)= -3,
f(7) = 4

Question b) find the value of x, when f(x)=x

That's the question I'm have problem with, aren't the image x supposed to be altered somehow compared to the object? x after the function is still x?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Dec 17 2012, 03:25 PM)
Can still collect PMR results slip when skl reopen? I ask here cuz u all last yr collect.
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Sure.
That result slip is unimportant at all. No point, except if scholarship is in your mind.
There will be a gold-coloured PMR slip which will be issued middle next year.
That is the real deal.


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QUOTE(IzeStorm @ Dec 17 2012, 03:27 PM)
Hi guys, I just stumble across an Add-Maths chapter 1 question, and I'm not sure what the question really mean.

Function f(x) = 12/hx+k

x =/= -k/h,
f(0)= -3,
f(7) = 4

Question b) find the value of x, when f(x)=x

That's the question I'm have problem with, aren't the image x supposed to be altered somehow compared to the object? x after the function is still x?

Thanks.
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You have to first define what is the constant h and k, probably your question a.
You have to understand the question.
You need to find a specific value of x that when you insert in the function results in that value as well.

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What gold colour slip?

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I didn't remember getting it...

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Guys where are you planning to go after spm?

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QUOTE(reconnaissance @ Dec 17 2012, 03:47 PM)
Sure.
That result slip is unimportant at all. No point, except if scholarship is in your mind.
There will be a gold-coloured PMR slip which will be issued middle next year.
That is the real deal.


Added on December 17, 2012, 3:50 pm
You have to first define what is the constant h and k, probably your question a.
You have to understand the question.
You need to find a specific value of x that when you insert in the function results in that value as well.
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Thanks! Will try to do it again.

edit: Do I have to try every number 1 by 1 for the answer? or is there any other way?

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Guys where are you planning to go after spm?

Me maybe poly or something smile.gif

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What gold colour slip?

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I didn't remember getting it...
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Then ask your school.
The school supposed to issue them, but many seniors left without taking.
I'm not sure about the colour, but if memory serves me well, it is high quality and gold in colour.
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Wow, that was quick. An SPM 2013 thread already? Count me in!

(sub-science + literature for english + pendidikan seni visual - add maths)

What are the rest of you guys/girls planning to do after SPM? Find a job? Apply for college? Take a break and become nomadic? Haha.
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Thanks! Will try to do it again.

edit: Do I have to try every number 1 by 1 for the answer? or is there any other way?
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nah you don't. after equating x to the function, just manipulate the equation to get your values of x. Just to clarify, in this case:

12/(hx+k) = x
12 = x*(hx+k)


And then you do whatever's necessary to find x
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Thanks! Will try to do it again.

edit: Do I have to try every number 1 by 1 for the answer? or is there any other way?
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Some don't go looking at previous post.
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Dec 17 2012, 03:54 PM)
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What gold colour slip?

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I didn't remember getting it...
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It's not a slip, it's a certificate.

A high quality, gold coloured, A4 sized certificate. smile.gif

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Me maybe poly or something smile.gif

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It's not a slip, it's a certificate.

A high quality, gold coloured, A4 sized certificate.  smile.gif
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Is it Sijil kecemerlangan?

Wait no I got that cuz I was ICT prefect .

OK when school reopen will ask.
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QUOTE(p3nguin @ Dec 17 2012, 04:47 PM)
nah you don't. after equating x to the function, just manipulate the equation to get your values of x. Just to clarify, in this case:

12/(hx+k) = x
12 = x*(hx+k)
And then you do whatever's necessary to find x
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If you're adding a question, best provide in another post.
Some don't go looking at previous post.
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QUOTE(duizhang @ Dec 17 2012, 04:15 PM)
Wow, that was quick. An SPM 2013 thread already? Count me in!

(sub-science + literature for english + pendidikan seni visual - add maths)

What are the rest of you guys/girls planning to do after SPM? Find a job? Apply for college? Take a break and become nomadic? Haha.
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I've got the plannings/head-cracking stuff done earlier , most probably it would be either preparing for my SAT / Pre-U or scholarship hunting .

Wow , L.I.E . I wanted to take it , but after taking into account that there isn't any tutor around my area for L.I.E , I gave up . I took Ekonomi instead .

But around November I got the info from my friend saying that there is an experienced L.I.E tutor in close proximity . Gahh .

Before including your username in the list , I need to confirm , you're taking 10 subjects ?
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QUOTE(duizhang @ Dec 17 2012, 04:15 PM)
Wow, that was quick. An SPM 2013 thread already? Count me in!

(sub-science + literature for english + pendidikan seni visual - add maths)

What are the rest of you guys/girls planning to do after SPM? Find a job? Apply for college? Take a break and become nomadic? Haha.
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Yeah a job, fitness program, learning new language and apply for college. Which ever comes first and the best choice, I guess.
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Now there's PMR , SPM 2012 , SPM 2013 and Form Four 2013 running concurrently . tongue.gif
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Now there's PMR , SPM 2012 , SPM 2013 and Form Four 2013 running concurrently . tongue.gif
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Feeling pretty awesome that the SPM 2012 thread is still running.  biggrin.gif
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It's an unofficial tradition that the SPM Thread be kept running before the announcement of the results . After that it dies off or will be closed by the TS .  laugh.gif
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I thought that it will die off after SPM and then be revived when the results are out. hmm.gif
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Can someone help me with bloody physics omg it's the hardest subject for me, my weakpoint never gotten an A..... always C. Ughh how do you answer it and especially those modification/justification question, the 10 marks one. In sec B/C. Omg i hate it!! Omg please help me with physics. I've only covered chapter 3 forces and pressure but I'm still having problems with calculating the archimedes and pffffffft. Gah physics. Nightmare!
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Oh mai...this December I've been quite busy...many camps and competition to attend...not enough time for revising.

And X mas coming so fast...another hindrance from studying sad.gif hope after X mas will have time to study KAW KAW! laugh.gif

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QUOTE(assymessy @ Dec 20 2012, 10:19 PM)
Can someone help me with bloody physics omg it's the hardest subject for me, my weakpoint never gotten an A..... always C. Ughh how do you answer it and especially those modification/justification question, the 10 marks one. In sec B/C. Omg i hate it!! Omg please help me with physics. I've only covered chapter 3 forces and pressure but I'm still having problems with calculating the archimedes and pffffffft. Gah physics. Nightmare!
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Dec 21 2012, 08:09 PM)
Oh mai...this December I've been quite busy...many camps and competition to attend...not enough time for revising.

And X mas coming so fast...another hindrance from studying sad.gif hope after X mas will have time to study KAW KAW! laugh.gif
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That is fine.
I once entered so many competitions that rendered me official leave from school for an accumulative of fivr months a year.
My attendance record is filled with "absence for official representation - (event name)".
Revising cares not the time, but the strategy.

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Modification part is the easiest section to score. All you need to know is the concept, and the physical theory behind them repeats always.
Like how..... it's confusing like dafdsfafsfsf.
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Add me as well........ Pure science 9 subjects.

BTW i'm stuck on this add maths question.

The question is:
''If B is a root of the quadratic equation 2x^2=x+1, show that 4B^3=3B+1.''

Anyone can help me?
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QUOTE(dccldccl @ Dec 22 2012, 06:18 PM)
Add me as well........ Pure science 9 subjects.

BTW i'm stuck on this add maths question.

The question is:
''If B is a root of the quadratic equation 2x^2=x+1, show that 4B^3=3B+1.''

Anyone can help me?
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solve the quad equation to find X and B = one of the X, then prove the equation.
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solve the quad equation to find X and B = one of the X, then prove the equation.
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I don't get the part about equating B to one of the roots of the first equation . Any hints ? Should the second cubic equation be solved also ?
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QUOTE(dccldccl @ Dec 22 2012, 06:18 PM)
Add me as well........ Pure science 9 subjects.

BTW i'm stuck on this add maths question.

The question is:
''If B is a root of the quadratic equation 2x^2=x+1, show that 4B^3=3B+1.''

Anyone can help me?
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the answer is B=1.

solve the quad equation.
when you solved the quad eq. you got two roots.
the root is 1 and -0.5 .

substitute both roots into the 4B^3=3B+1 .

you will find the answer is 1 because B=1 fits with the equation.

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QUOTE(medwolf @ Dec 22 2012, 09:33 PM)
the answer is B=1.

solve the quad equation.
when you solved the quad eq. you got two roots.
the root is 1 and -0.5 .

substitute both roots into the 4B^3=3B+1 .

you will find the answer is 1 because B=1 fits with the equation.
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was hoping he'll get the answer himself ;p but yes, i got 1 too. -0.5 didn't fit.
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Dec 22 2012, 09:52 PM)
was hoping he'll get the answer himself ;p but yes, i got 1 too. -0.5 didn't fit.
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The question isn't about proving the second equation ? blink.gif They want us to find the root the fits the B equation ?


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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Dec 22 2012, 09:52 PM)
was hoping he'll get the answer himself ;p but yes, i got 1 too. -0.5 didn't fit.
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Oh I kinda got it : Since B is a root of the first equation , if 1 fits the second equation , we have shown that the second equation is indeed true . Haha . Thanks by the way .

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was hoping he'll get the answer himself ;p but yes, i got 1 too. -0.5 didn't fit.
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I got it. So this question is asking about the value of B and use the value to show the qua equation right? I thought we only need to directly sub the B into the equation. sweat.gif
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yea... my school starts on tuesday
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How's add maths/chemistry form 5 treating you all?  brows.gif
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How do you get an A+ for physics ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh or even an A. It's so complicated adfasfasfasfas KYAAA
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QUOTE(assymessy @ Dec 28 2012, 10:35 PM)
How do you get an A+ for physics ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh or even an A. It's so complicated adfasfasfasfas KYAAA
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QUOTE(assymessy @ Dec 28 2012, 10:35 PM)
How do you get an A+ for physics ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh or even an A. It's so complicated adfasfasfasfas KYAAA
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If you take Bio,will be lagi worse..
The true colours of Bio will come out in Form 5 syllabus.
Chem and Phy for Form 5 is bearable..Maybe Electromagnetism(Chap 3)(Physics) requires more understanding and imagination skills.
Add Maths Chap 5 Trigonometry is tough..But in SPM exam,only 2 sections of it come out..
Just be Consistent and study at least 1 hour a day...
Dont be like me,Study gao gao and undergo crapload of stress before the month of SPM...Really no peace of mind when you sleep at night.
Every year seniors will say study consistently.But there is bound to be juniors who always slog during the eleventh hour..
It's a phase you go through la.
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YES STRUGGLING. hhmmmmmm SADDD! help me.........

QUOTE(ichigo_6091 @ Dec 30 2012, 12:59 AM)
If you take Bio,will be lagi worse..
The true colours of Bio will come out in Form 5 syllabus.
Chem and Phy for Form 5 is bearable..Maybe Electromagnetism(Chap 3)(Physics) requires more understanding and imagination skills.
Add Maths Chap 5 Trigonometry is tough..But in SPM exam,only 2 sections of it come out..
Just be Consistent and study at least 1 hour a day...
Dont be like me,Study gao gao and undergo crapload of stress before the month of SPM...Really no peace of mind when you sleep at night.
Every year seniors will say study consistently.But there is bound to be juniors who always slog during the eleventh hour..
It's a phase you go through la.
Well,Good Luck!! smile.gif
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Huaaa bio will be tough ? I constant studied it during Form 4. I love Chem and Bio.........

ugh tips on how to study ? I want to try and get all A+. Gonna do my very best. But struggling with physics here OTL.

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After hours of revision , I've finally finished my form four Chemistry . Phew . Salts wasn't that bad after all . (=

Now , for Physics ...


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QUOTE(assymessy @ Dec 30 2012, 09:59 PM)
YES STRUGGLING. hhmmmmmm SADDD! help me.........
Huaaa bio will be tough ? I constant studied it during Form 4. I love Chem and Bio.........

ugh tips on how to study ? I want to try and get all A+. Gonna do my very best. But struggling with physics here OTL.
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If you can handle Biology , Physics shouldn't be a problem , right ? The hardest science paper ( difficulty in scoring an A+ ) is Biology . The experiments are way more simple than Chem and Bio too . A question : Done memorising the experiments in Bio ? And done with the Nutrition chapter ?

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After hours of revision , I've finally finished my form four Chemistry . Phew . Salts wasn't that bad after all . (=

Now , for Physics ...


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If you can handle Biology , Physics shouldn't be a problem , right ? The hardest science paper ( difficulty in scoring an A+ ) is Biology . The experiments are way more simple than Chem and Bio too . A question : Done memorising the experiments in Bio ? And done with the Nutrition chapter ?
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I've covered Biology. But right now, I'm covering it again........... finished chapter 5. Chapter 6 next. Wah.... you've covered a lot................. KYAAAAAA jealous. Chemistry, I've covered everything but I'm still lacking at 7,8,9. Acid, Salts and Manufacturing. Still got A for my finals tho for chem huhu. Pain in the ass. I'm so lazy today so no studying. I've been focusing on Physics and Add Maths more. My weakest subjects..... trust me I can't really handle physics. I UNDERSTAND IT BUT WHEN I APPLY IT ON PAPER. BAAAAMMMMM GOT C. foooook. But at the same time, it might be my fault since during 2012, I've only been focusing on every subject except Physics, Add Maths and BM..

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I've covered Biology. But right now, I'm covering it again........... finished chapter 5. Chapter 6 next. Wah.... you've covered a lot................. KYAAAAAA jealous. Chemistry, I've covered everything but I'm still lacking at 7,8,9. Acid, Salts and Manufacturing. Still got A for my finals tho for chem huhu. Pain in the ass. I'm so lazy today so no studying. I've been focusing on Physics and Add Maths more. My weakest subjects..... trust me I can't really handle physics. I UNDERSTAND IT BUT WHEN I APPLY IT ON PAPER. BAAAAMMMMM GOT C. foooook. But at the same time, it might be my fault since during 2012, I've only been focusing on every subject except Physics, Add Maths and BM..
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my weakest subject has always been chemistry. sweat.gif

must be constant and even in studying,if you ignore subjects like bm,physics and add maths,your brain will "karat" and rot somewhere when answering questions during exam.

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Can share some strategy to study salts? I still cannot understand it. sad.gif

Only Chem left for me rest I'm done.

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Can share some strategy to study salts? I still cannot understand it. sad.gif

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Salt requires mostly memorizing and if you dont understand, you can view some video on youtube about salt. That's what I did for my last semester exam.
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Salt requires mostly memorizing and if you dont understand, you can view some video on youtube about salt. That's what I did for my last semester exam.
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Can share some strategy to study salts? I still cannot understand it. sad.gif

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I don't see why people are saying that Salts requires a lot of memorising . In fact , if your basic is good , only a little memorising is necessary .

Study in chunks : That's what I did .

Start with solubility of salts . Then methods of preparing soluble salts ( very important to know the procedures well -- you will be asked in the essay section ) . If you're done , you can start studying method of preparing insoluble salts ( this is fairly easy , choose 2 soluble salts where the product will be insoluble , hint : choose a nitrate salt and add a potassium or sodium salt ) .

Then , jump to the qualitative analysis of salts ( stoichiometry , this is easy if you still remember how to balance equations and do some calculations involving chemical reactions , you should be able to cover this in no time ) .

With that aside , start with the gas tests ( oxygen , hydrogen , nitrogen dioxide , etc ) which will help you in determining the presence of anions in a salt compound .

Go on with anion tests ( again , pretty easy -- only four of them . )

Cation tests have may be a bit tricky -- you should know the colours of ions , copper ( II ) blue , iron ( II ) green , iron ( III ) brown , zinc -- yellow when hot , white when cold , lead -- brown when hot , yellow when cold , lead ( II ) oxide -- black , copper ( II ) carbonate - green , potassium manganate ( VI ) purple , etc ) .

Then all you have left are the solubility tests using NaOH and ammonium solutions , these are the important ones . Also remember specific tests like Nessler's reagent , potassium hexacyanoferrate ( II ) , potassium iodide ( to test for the presence of lead ( II ) ions which forms a yellow insoluble salt ) .

That's about it . You got to refresh every day after reading this chapter by reading short notes , even after multiple readings I still am not 100 % sure of certain things , and I'd have to refresh later ( I've left my Chemistry aside for four days now -- concentrating on Physics ) .

All the best !
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I don't see why people are saying that Salts requires a lot of memorising . In fact , if your basic is good , only a little memorising is necessary .

Study in chunks : That's what I did .

Start with solubility of salts . Then methods of preparing soluble salts ( very important to know the procedures well -- you will be asked in the essay section ) . If you're done , you can start studying method of preparing insoluble salts ( this is fairly easy , choose 2 soluble salts where the product will be insoluble , hint : choose a nitrate salt and add a potassium or sodium salt ) .

Then , jump to the qualitative analysis of salts ( stoichiometry , this is easy if you still remember how to balance equations and do some calculations involving chemical reactions , you should be able to cover this in no time ) .

With that aside , start with the gas tests ( oxygen , hydrogen , nitrogen dioxide , etc ) which will help you in determining the presence of anions in a salt compound .

Go on with anion tests ( again , pretty easy -- only four of them . )

Cation tests have may be a bit tricky -- you should know the colours of ions , copper ( II ) blue , iron ( II ) green , iron ( III ) brown , zinc -- yellow when hot , white when cold , lead -- brown when hot , yellow when cold , lead ( II ) oxide -- black , copper ( II ) carbonate - green , potassium manganate ( VI ) purple , etc ) .

Then all you have left are the solubility tests using NaOH and ammonium solutions , these are the important ones . Also remember specific tests like Nessler's reagent , potassium hexacyanoferrate ( II ) , potassium iodide ( to test for the presence of lead ( II ) ions which forms a yellow insoluble salt ) .

That's about it . You got to refresh every day after reading this chapter by reading short notes , even after multiple readings I still am not 100 % sure of certain things , and I'd have to refresh later ( I've left my Chemistry aside for four days now -- concentrating on Physics ) .

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Can you help me with Physics ?

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If you specify your question , just a bit , I think I can . Which chapter are you having trouble with ?
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If you specify your question , just a bit , I think I can . Which chapter are you having trouble with ?
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Hmm most likely the ones involving modification and justification. I'm having some trouble with resolution of forces, archimedes. And overall idk so scared man trying to get A+ for SPM but kyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Huaaaaaa.
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QUOTE(maximR @ Dec 31 2012, 03:09 PM)
I don't see why people are saying that Salts requires a lot of memorising . In fact , if your basic is good , only a little memorising is necessary .

Study in chunks : That's what I did .

Start with solubility of salts . Then methods of preparing soluble salts ( very important to know the procedures well -- you will be asked in the essay section ) . If you're done , you can start studying method of preparing insoluble salts ( this is fairly easy , choose 2 soluble salts where the product will be insoluble , hint : choose a nitrate salt and add a potassium or sodium salt ) .

Then , jump to the qualitative analysis of salts ( stoichiometry , this is easy if you still remember how to balance equations and do some calculations involving chemical reactions , you should be able to cover this in no time ) .

With that aside , start with the gas tests ( oxygen , hydrogen , nitrogen dioxide , etc ) which will help you in determining the presence of anions in a salt compound .

Go on with anion tests ( again , pretty easy -- only four of them . )

Cation tests have may be a bit tricky -- you should know the colours of ions , copper ( II ) blue , iron ( II ) green , iron ( III ) brown , zinc -- yellow when hot , white when cold , lead -- brown when hot , yellow when cold , lead ( II ) oxide -- black , copper ( II ) carbonate - green , potassium manganate ( VI ) purple , etc ) .

Then all you have left are the solubility tests using NaOH and ammonium solutions , these are the important ones . Also remember specific tests like Nessler's reagent , potassium hexacyanoferrate ( II ) , potassium iodide ( to test for the presence of lead ( II ) ions which forms a yellow insoluble salt ) .

That's about it . You got to refresh every day after reading this chapter by reading short notes , even after multiple readings I still am not 100 % sure of certain things , and I'd have to refresh later ( I've left my Chemistry aside for four days now -- concentrating on Physics ) .

All the best !
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The parts I'm stuck with is Cation test and solubility test.

Just can't remember the colour codes for the ions sad.gif

Maybe I just need more time...but it's the end of 2012 already
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No more JPS Setara paper? Referring to 1st post
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QUOTE(assymessy @ Dec 31 2012, 04:46 PM)
Hmm most likely the ones involving modification and justification. I'm having some trouble with resolution of forces, archimedes. And overall idk so scared man trying to get A+ for SPM but kyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Huaaaaaa.
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Modification and justification involves more answering technique / common sense than Physics concepts , to be honest .

My advice would be to use tables to answer these questions . Modification on one side , and the reason on the other . The reasons needn't be complex , just think simple . For example :

Modification : The car should be made of low density carbon fibre
Reason : Light and strong , enable car to move faster

It is that simple . Look at trial answer schemes and SPM answer schemes . Looks like your problem is more on answering techniques rather than your understanding on Physics . Don't worry , most of us are still not sure of the answering techniques for all the subjects , I'm sure we'll get there before SPM .

Resolution of forces involves the breaking up of forces into their components -- sorry man , I can't help you here because it gets technical when there are more than two forces involved . Maybe posting a question here would help . You just need to practice more on this , plus make sure your basic trigonometry knowledge is there ; without it you can't do much . Is your Maths good ? If you are , you should be able to grasp this quite easily .

Again , you're being too general . What Archimedes ? The person ? His principle on buoyancy ? Calculations involving buoyant force ? Apparent weight and actual weight ?


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The parts I'm stuck with is Cation test and solubility test.

Just can't remember the colour codes for the ions  sad.gif

Maybe I just need more time...but it's the end of 2012 already
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If you can remember the names of game characters , you should be able to know all the colours of important ions pretty easily . tongue.gif

Don't rush , you have ample time before SPM . Take your time and take it one step at a time .


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BUCK UP YOUR STUDIES.

No more JPS Setara paper? Referring to 1st post
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Yup . It was in the news some time ago .

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Hmm maybe I shall just take my time...

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Modification and justification involves more answering technique / common sense than Physics concepts , to be honest .

My advice would be to use tables to answer these questions . Modification on one side , and the reason on the other . The reasons needn't be complex , just think simple . For example :

Modification : The car should be made of low density carbon fibre
Reason : Light and strong , enable car to move faster

It is that simple . Look at trial answer schemes and SPM answer schemes . Looks like your problem is more on answering techniques rather than your understanding on Physics . Don't worry , most of us are still not sure of the answering techniques for all the subjects , I'm sure we'll get there before SPM .

Resolution of forces involves the breaking up of forces into their components -- sorry man , I can't help you here because it gets technical when there are more than two forces involved . Maybe posting a question here would help . You just need to practice more on this , plus make sure your basic trigonometry knowledge is there ; without it you can't do much . Is your Maths good ? If you are , you should be able to grasp this quite easily .

Again , you're being too general . What Archimedes ? The person ? His principle on buoyancy ? Calculations involving buoyant force ? Apparent weight and actual weight ?

YEAH, my answering technique for physics suck. Like I know what the answer is but i can't apply it on paper. so frustrating!!!! Modification kyaaaa idk how people say it's easy. T_T

Well archimedes when it involves the application for it. The Hydrometer and stuffs.
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YEAH, my answering technique for physics suck. Like I know what the answer is but i can't apply it on paper. so frustrating!!!! Modification kyaaaa idk how people say it's easy. T_T

Well archimedes when it involves the application for it. The Hydrometer and stuffs.
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The application parts don't come easy , friend . Even I , who claim to be passionate about Physics , have to read the applications part multiple times to get them right -- especially the hydraulic brakes part , aneroid barometer , etc .

Do you have good teachers ?
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The application parts don't come easy , friend . Even I , who claim to be passionate about Physics , have to read the applications part multiple times to get them right -- especially the hydraulic brakes part , aneroid barometer , etc .

Do you have good teachers ?
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Yeah but I guess it's my own fault because I didn't really pay attention for Physics masa form 4 zzz. But i did try but OTL whatever need to get back up. How to study physics efficiently ? >:( mesti you dapat A kan
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QUOTE(assymessy @ Dec 31 2012, 10:45 PM)
Yeah but I guess it's my own fault because I didn't really pay attention for Physics masa form 4 zzz. But i did try but OTL whatever need to get back up. How to study physics efficiently ? >:( mesti you dapat A kan
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Simple answer : I understand . I rarely memorise anything in Physics , with F = ma as an exception ( if you would want to call it memorising , I remember all of the form four equations due to frequent encounters with them when practising calculation questions . )

I try to understand even the equations , like impulsive force , when time of impact increases , the overall impulsive force decreases , and then relate it to the equation . I ask myself , why , when throwing a ball upwards , the gravitational acceleration must be negative ; when going downwards , positive ; when involving both upwards + downwards motion , it's taken to be negative . I ask questions all the time -- I think this is an integral and a healthy attitude that must be in everyone when studying Physics .
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Simple answer : I understand . I rarely memorise anything in Physics , with F = ma as an exception ( if you would want to call it memorising , I remember all of the form four equations due to frequent encounters with them when practising calculation questions . )

I try to understand even the equations , like impulsive force , when time of impact increases , the overall impulsive force decreases , and then relate it to the equation . I ask myself , why , when throwing a ball upwards , the gravitational acceleration must be negative ; when going downwards , positive ; when involving both upwards + downwards motion , it's taken to be negative . I ask questions all the time -- I think this is an integral and a healthy attitude that must be in everyone when studying Physics .
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Same. I can do Bio and Chem well but Physics....... so sad !!!

I know the answers but idk why wrong when i put on paper. Sedih 5ever. Huaaaaaaaaaa.
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Its time for you guys to face the spm heat. brows.gifbrows.gif

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Happy new year guys. ^^
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Salt requires mostly memorizing and if you dont understand, you can view some video on youtube about salt. That's what I did for my last semester exam.
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Wow you're right...watched some videos and really help me out. rclxms.gif

I guess I'm the visual type?

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Wow you're right...watched some videos and really help me out. rclxms.gif

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Masuk sekolah, then when it comes to choosing the class monitor, everybody wanna kenakan me and vote for me to become the monitor, wtheck, I dont want la! Dah la SPM class is only 1 class..

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sucess by oxford fajar is also good but it is expensive and heavy.
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Like what is the diff between paleolitik and neolitik, what is the ciri ciri of tamadun indus, terangkan perjanjian aqabah and that sort of things
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maths and sejarah i bought target A+ by sasadi.

sucess by oxford fajar is also good but it is expensive and heavy.
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Succes by Oxford Fajar always include non-syllabus information.

For Sejarah, just stick to your text book unless you want to read further about some events.
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got any tip or trick on how to memorize it ?
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Make a story/ Acronym.

Anyways...does anyone know the Schedule of this years SPM? Day,date and time of the subjects? If so do inform us if not do tell us when it will be inform.

Wanna make sure my appointments don't clash.


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P.Islam Module (Need to do on teacher's daily basis RM3.5)
Biology Module (Need to photostat, cost about RM11)
Engineering Drawing (Few works)
Math Mode (Chapter 1 homework, all of it)


ar, Idk what's next.... =,= Now I'm on my rest. lolol so tired sienz.

Didn't even have time to revise form 4 subjects... ZzzzzzzzZZ

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Oh a warning.. I'm glad. Zzz

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Orientation till tomorrow

Today got discipline briefing.

1. Cannot play kad terup. Reason: might tempt us to forget about our prayers

2. To talk with opposite genders, we need to distance ourselves at least 1metres. Reason: See the west how messed up they are.

After this two I cannot tahan already and sleep. End story
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what is he means by no more standardized state trials?

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Day 2 of this year's journey, I now officially have a lot of homeworks.

Historical Module (Need to complete all chapter 1 in a week, bought for RM18)
P.Islam Module (Need to do on teacher's daily basis RM3.5)
Biology Module (Need to photostat, cost about RM11)
Engineering Drawing (Few works)
Math Mode (Chapter 1 homework, all of it)
ar, Idk what's next.... =,= Now I'm on my rest. lolol so tired sienz.

Didn't even have time to revise form 4 subjects... ZzzzzzzzZZ

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Oh a warning.. I'm glad. Zzz
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In years before, gerak gempur papers, or standardized state papers which are issued by the state education agency will be conducted annually for majority subjects.
Each state will have their own standardized trial papers which only differs by zones. So, all the students in the same zone will be sitting for the same papers, regardless of the schools. This enabled us to gauge the performance of students as all students in the same zone are sitting for the same papers, and also to more adapt to government-style questions.

However, since to standardized the timing, so that every schools of the same zone and therefore same papers will start at the same time, those papers will be issued weeks earlier to school administrators. This caused rampant leaks, and this compromised accuracy of the examination and rendered the objectives of the standardized trial examinations failed.


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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 3 2013, 08:52 PM)
Orientation till tomorrow

Today got discipline briefing.

1. Cannot play kad terup. Reason: might tempt us to forget about our prayers

2. To talk with opposite genders, we need to distance ourselves at least 1metres. Reason: See the west how messed up they are.

After this two I cannot tahan already and sleep. End story
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What school segregates student by gender to that extent?
Are you currently enrolled in a religious-affiliated school?

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Dear seniors, is it necessary for me to take add maths tuition? Can I most likely still do decently even without tuition?
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Dear seniors, is it necessary for me to take add maths tuition? Can I most likely still do decently even without tuition?
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The average students I knew took them, and that enabled them to maintain top grades effortlessly.
Some don't but yet they still maintain great scores; some others fail.

Personally, one do not need require it at all, even to achieve scores equal to those that did.
Time management and discipline actually put more use in a two-hour session than a tutor can do so. Within two hour, I managed to skim through the entire Biology Form 4 and Form 5.
However, taking tuition gives one confidence.

It is entirely depending on one's preference. I suggest you not to.
Once you take tuition, you will not have the drive to study on your own anymore, you will wait for the tuition session to study, and the rest of the time is at waste, though this do not apply to everyone. But, majority, I believe, will agree with me that they did.

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QUOTE(reconnaissance @ Jan 3 2013, 11:05 PM)
The average students I knew took them, and that enabled them to maintain top grades effortlessly.
Some don't but yet they still maintain great scores; some others fail.

Personally, one do not need require it at all, even to achieve scores equal to those that did.
Time management and discipline actually put more use in a two-hour session than a tutor can do so. Within two hour, I managed to skim through the entire Biology Form 4 and Form 5.
However, taking tuition gives one confidence.

It is entirely depending on one's preference. I suggest you not to.
Once you take tuition, you will not have the drive to study on your own anymore, you will wait for the tuition session to study, and the rest of the time is at waste, though this do not apply to everyone. But, majority, I believe, will agree with me that they did.
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i love my tuition classes. I learn heaps more there than in class. Hence, I do all my studying there and I can have adequate rest/play during my free time smile.gif Works for me, but not for everyone. For add maths, either you can fork out at least 3-4 hours a week doing practices, or you can just pay the tuition teacher to do the same thing, only up point is that he/she can teach you if you don't know how to solve a problem rather than cracking your head all day.
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QUOTE(reconnaissance @ Jan 3 2013, 11:05 PM)
The average students I knew took them, and that enabled them to maintain top grades effortlessly.
Some don't but yet they still maintain great scores; some others fail.

Personally, one do not need require it at all, even to achieve scores equal to those that did.
Time management and discipline actually put more use in a two-hour session than a tutor can do so. Within two hour, I managed to skim through the entire Biology Form 4 and Form 5.
However, taking tuition gives one confidence.

It is entirely depending on one's preference. I suggest you not to.
Once you take tuition, you will not have the drive to study on your own anymore, you will wait for the tuition session to study, and the rest of the time is at waste, though this do not apply to everyone. But, majority, I believe, will agree with me that they did.
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These questions just won't stop , will they ? There are some issues regarding not reading previous posts, no matter how many times I've reiterated the fact that there are similar questions with answers . blush.gif
I'd leave these for you to answer then , if you can tolerate them . tongue.gif

I've a question for you that cropped up :

Where do you learn the techniques of answering Biology Paper 3 ?
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These questions just won't stop , will they ? There are some issues regarding not reading previous posts, no matter how many times I've reiterated the fact that there are similar questions with answers .  blush.gif
I'd leave these for you to answer then , if you can tolerate them .  tongue.gif

I've a question for you that cropped up :

Where do you learn the techniques of answering Biology Paper 3 ?
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i've totally no idea what is paper 3 already. And after looking it up, i have no memories of it at all =/ maybe during my time it didn't exist tongue.gif

I found this:
http://berryberryeasy.com/

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The awkward moment when you never took tuition before and form 5 only have tuition classes.

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These questions just won't stop , will they ? There are some issues regarding not reading previous posts, no matter how many times I've reiterated the fact that there are similar questions with answers .  blush.gif
I'd leave these for you to answer then , if you can tolerate them .   tongue.gif

I've a question for you that cropped up :

Where do you learn the techniques of answering Biology Paper 3 ?
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The Internet, and asking any Biology tutors I met at work.


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The awkward moment when you never took tuition before and form 5 only have tuition classes.

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Why would it be awkward?
I never took tuition classes, and I even did marking and simple tutoring for several subjects, even for students older than me.

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The awkward moment when you never took tuition before and form 5 only have tuition classes.

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The Internet, and asking any Biology tutors I met at work.


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Why would it be awkward?
I never took tuition classes, and I even did marking and simple tutoring for several subjects, even for students older than me.
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are you a teacher? biggrin.gif just curious ;p

nah, it's not compulsory to go for tuition. Depends on your study methods. To be honest, looking back now, tuition is still spoon feeding you with info, just the same as going to class in primary/sec school. If you can study on your own, ask when needed and just do things independently, then you'll definitely cope better in uni/college.
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No lah everyone will stare at you like Alien...

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are you a teacher? biggrin.gif just curious ;p

nah, it's not compulsory to go for tuition. Depends on your study methods. To be honest, looking back now, tuition is still spoon feeding you with info, just the same as going to class in primary/sec school. If you can study on your own, ask when needed and just do things independently, then you'll definitely cope better in uni/college.
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Was a part-time tutor.
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What school segregates student by gender to that extent?
Are you currently enrolled in a religious-affiliated school?
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Go normal school lah...

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Mine school normal je...but I can see my school slowly degrading...most of the great teachers are either retired already or transferred.

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Go normal school lah...

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Mine school normal je...but I can see my school slowly degrading...most of the great teachers are either retired already or transferred.

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Hey guys, I'm back biggrin.gif
My school has 2 classes that take account before (during F4) , but one of them had to drop the subject.From what I heard , the whole class failed the subject during final term.I took account as subjek tambahan but decided to drop it cause cannot cope with it. sweat.gif Today we had "aku janji" thingy and the PK said she don't want students to drop subjects but instead she wants to hear students being interested in taking subjek tambahan during her speech.But somehow I'm sort of interested in tasawwur islam.The good thing is the kelas tambahan will start this month.


Anyway ,people from tuition centres are starting to distribute their brochure infront of my school almost everyday.It is kinda annoying because most students end up throwing them away. vmad.gif I've seen one of them during my recess and I felt that the fee are somewhat high.It's something like 50+ for first subject,40+ for second and so on.I don't know cause haven't been for tuition since standard 6.
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mine have started "funding" my school's magazine.they added thier picture at the back of my school's magazine. doh.gif doh.gif

btw,the tution's name is kasturi.
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u guys dah cover form 4 ?
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u guys dah cover form 4 ?
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Not yet sweat.gif .But I'm trying my best to avoid last minute work starting this year.We didn't finish our syllabus for physics and chemistry last year , quite a few topic.I really want to concentrate especially for those subjects but the class environment is not really good.Some of my classmates , would always interrupt when the teacher's teaching with stupid jokes.The teacher told some of us that her mood to teach spoiled because of them. shakehead.gif Hopefully they would be more serious this year.

@green_algae
That is quite common tongue.gif My school magazine (last year) also have them.

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Hello im new here...wat actually this thread abt? Cn i join in? Im spm2013 candidate oso  smile.gif
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discuss about studies,and everyday stuff that is related in school.
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Do u guys know whether jpa is still providing scholarship for spm leaver? Do spm2013 candidates stand for applying?
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Do u guys know whether jpa is still providing scholarship for spm leaver? Do spm2013 candidates stand  for applying?
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Policy changes every year.
It is rumoured to cancel, as to provide greater allocation to STPM leavers instead.
Wait for your year to find out.
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Do you think it is wise for me to take Chemical tuition?

I am not actually bad in the subject. Its just that I sometimes may not know how to answer questions in paper 2 and some chemical equations hence I ended losing marks. Usually, I will score 45+ for paper 1. Any 2cents thoughts?
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Do you think it is wise for me to take Chemical tuition?

I am not actually bad in the subject. Its just that I sometimes may not know how to answer questions in paper 2 and some chemical equations hence I ended losing marks. Usually, I will score 45+ for paper 1. Any 2cents thoughts?
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Chemical tuition? blink.gif that sounds dangerous tongue.gif

alright, real stuff. do more paper 2 and 3 exercises? If not just go for it. My tuition teacher was awesome. We learnt way beyond our syllabus. (STPM stuff) So long you get the concepts (and some memorization) you should be fine smile.gif
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Jan 6 2013, 12:39 PM)
Chemical tuition?  blink.gif that sounds dangerous  tongue.gif

alright, real stuff. do more paper 2 and 3 exercises? If not just go for it. My tuition teacher was awesome. We learnt way beyond our syllabus. (STPM stuff) So long you get the concepts (and some memorization) you should be fine smile.gif
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STPM syllabus. shocking.gif ,my school teacher barely finished my form 4 chapter last year.you must have an amazing tution.
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Jan 6 2013, 12:39 PM)
Chemical tuition?  blink.gif that sounds dangerous  tongue.gif

alright, real stuff. do more paper 2 and 3 exercises? If not just go for it. My tuition teacher was awesome. We learnt way beyond our syllabus. (STPM stuff) So long you get the concepts (and some memorization) you should be fine smile.gif
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Sry for the typing error. Btw, I went for my Chemistry tuition today and I shall see within the few weeks if it is good then I will continue. cool2.gif
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Wow you lot are in early... Anyways, always good to be back in the Education Essentials section again. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(1insane @ Jan 6 2013, 07:03 PM)
Sry for the typing error. Btw, I went for my Chemistry tuition today and I shall see within the few weeks if it is good then I will continue. cool2.gif
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just kidding back there =) yes, I think you can just try for a few times and decide? Some tuition lets you do so.
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im just passing by this thread to say best of luck guys. i've completed my spm back in 2008 yo..
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Physics = pain in the ass zzzz.

Can someone please explain to me Total Internal Reflection ? Like the WHOLE OF IT
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Physics = pain in the ass zzzz.

Can someone please explain to me Total Internal Reflection ? Like the WHOLE OF IT
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Not sure. Try to find. When you reach a certain angle, it doesnt reflect, it occur TIR. It doesnt go out, it enters back. doh.gif

My teacher gave me maths form 4 straight line, cant do a single question, have to start pratice from now on
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Hey guys! anyone knows when are we going to fill the borang pendaftaran SPM??

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Hey guys! anyone knows when are we going to fill the borang pendaftaran SPM??
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Hey guys, I took my SPM last year.
If you guys need any help with English, English Literature, or Bible Knowledge, I can help you out.
Questions, explanations, I'll try my best to help. Just PM me.

I do offer tuition classes as well for those three subjects.

As for other subjects, I can try my best too, if you guys need guidance. I took the core subjects, Biology, Physics, EST, Bible Knowlege and Literature in English.

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I've a feeling I'd score A in add maths this year...my teacher this year IMO is the best teacher for addmaths in my school. He damn good guide us slowly not like my old teacher just rush terus laugh.gif


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I've a feeling I'd score A in add maths this year...my teacher this year IMO is the best teacher for addmaths in my school. He damn good guide us slowly not like my old teacher just rush terus laugh.gif
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You're from DJ right ?
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QUOTE(isaacmiranda7 @ Jan 8 2013, 06:59 PM)
Hey guys, I took my SPM last year.
If you guys need any help with English, English Literature, or Bible Knowledge, I can help you out.
Questions, explanations, I'll try my best to help. Just PM me.

I do offer tuition classes as well for those three subjects.

As for other subjects, I can try my best too, if you guys need guidance. I took the core subjects, Biology, Physics, EST, Bible Knowlege and Literature in English. 

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Nah, it's in English.
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This may be random , but Sekolah Tinggi Kluang is a great school for STPM .
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hey guys Kertas Soalan Peperiksaan Tahun-Tahun Lepas 2005-2012 book got sell already at bookstore ?
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hey guys Kertas Soalan Peperiksaan Tahun-Tahun Lepas 2005-2012 book got sell already at bookstore ?
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Last I checked ( two weeks ago , there weren't any ) .
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Last I checked ( two weeks ago , there weren't any ) .
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i just want to check my answer for elektif paper
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actually im 2012 spm student tongue.gif

i just want to check my answer for elektif paper
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That's unnecessary , your marks are sent or even marked anyway .
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This may be random , but Sekolah Tinggi Kluang is a great school for STPM .
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That is indeed very random. blink.gif

I live in JB, not Kluang. It's a two hour drive from JB to Kluang. D:
I could find some place to stay there, but I think it's too much hassle to do that just to go to a government school.

Besides, the school in JB I have in mind IF I take STPM is pretty good too. It's just that transferring there might be a problem.. My previous school doesn't offer Form 6 so I'll probably be sent to another all-girls school. I don't wanna study in an all-girls school for another 2 years, making it a total of 13 years AGGGGGH!
Okay sorry, rambling again.

Why do you say Sekolah Tinggi Kluang is a good school anyway? hmm.gif
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That's unnecessary , your marks are sent or even marked anyway .
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I'm from the school that has Blitzerz Cheerleading team drool.gif ...aka SMK BUD (4) blush.gif
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QUOTE(blueflame @ Jan 8 2013, 08:53 PM)
That is indeed very random.  blink.gif

I live in JB, not Kluang. It's a two hour drive from JB to Kluang. D:
I could find some place to stay there, but I think it's too much hassle to do that just to go to a government school.

Besides, the school in JB I have in mind IF I take STPM is pretty good too. It's just that transferring there might be a problem.. My previous school doesn't offer Form 6 so I'll probably be sent to another all-girls school. I don't wanna study in an all-girls school for another 2 years, making it a total of 13 years AGGGGGH!
Okay sorry, rambling again.

Why do you say Sekolah Tinggi Kluang is a good school anyway? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jan 8 2013, 09:09 PM)
Still cannot brain single sex schools...
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I heard loads of rumours on single sex schools having tons of homosexuals.. normal i guess.
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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Jan 8 2013, 09:08 PM)
Gila, you've been studying in single-sex school since primary? Kesian... ehh, I guess you'll never be able to taste the essence of being around peeps of the opposite sex and of your age until you go to university.... sad.gif
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My transition from being in an all girls environment to a very male dominated course will be... interesting. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(maximR @ Jan 8 2013, 08:14 PM)
This may be random , but Sekolah Tinggi Kluang is a great school for STPM .
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But it's...in Kluang. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Jan 8 2013, 09:15 PM)
I heard loads of rumours on single sex schools having tons of homosexuals.. normal i guess.
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i can confirm this,gt many pondans/homos in my school. in 1 class sure gt 1 sissy /pomdan. doh.gif
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QUOTE(blueflame @ Jan 8 2013, 08:53 PM)
That is indeed very random.  blink.gif

I live in JB, not Kluang. It's a two hour drive from JB to Kluang. D:
I could find some place to stay there, but I think it's too much hassle to do that just to go to a government school.

Besides, the school in JB I have in mind IF I take STPM is pretty good too. It's just that transferring there might be a problem.. My previous school doesn't offer Form 6 so I'll probably be sent to another all-girls school. I don't wanna study in an all-girls school for another 2 years, making it a total of 13 years AGGGGGH!
Okay sorry, rambling again.

Why do you say Sekolah Tinggi Kluang is a good school anyway? hmm.gif
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I thought there are some single sex schools that offer form 6 to both guys and girls, just that form 1 to form 5s are meant for single sex? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yellowpika @ Jan 8 2013, 10:06 PM)
I thought there are some single sex schools that offer form 6 to both guys and girls, just that form 1 to form 5s are meant for single sex? hmm.gif
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Apparently Form 6 girls can go to all-boys schools but Form 6 guys can't go to all-girls school here. No idea why. hmm.gif
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SPM 2013 Thread


Thread opened since BC and EST are over for SPM 2012 candidates . Only Ekonomi left for most students . Also , I'm feeling a wee bit excited . Let's hope this excitement will last . Front page will be re-updated this time .

To all SPM 2013 candidates , here's something to look out for :

1 .SEJARAH PAPER 3
2 . NO MORE STANDARDISED STATE TRIALS


That's about it for now , rough front page . I shall keep the candidates as they were in the previous form four thread . Any changes , do let me know by dropping me a private message . Thank you .

SPM Candidates

1 . maximR [ Pure Science + Basic Economics , 10 subjects ]
2 . xCALLUM [ Pure Science + Chinese, 10 subjects ]
3 . Calvin789 [ Sub Science with Engineering Drawing , 9 subjects ]
4 . 5p3ak [ Pure Science, 9 subjects ]
5 . Boy96 [ Pure Science + Bahasa Arab , 10 subjects ]
6 . MonfereBlogspot [ Pure Science, 9 subjects ]
7 . flamemusic [ Pure Science + Chinese , 10 subjects ]
8 . ericling [ Pure Science + Accounts + Chinese , 11 subjects ]
9 . Stuffi [ Pure Science + Chinese , 10 subjects ]
10 . adrianccseng [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
11 . Screen [ Sub-Science , 9 subjects ]
12 . iwant2 [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
13 . sukirani [ Pure Science + Music + Chinese , 11 subjects ]
14 . Allium [ Pure Science + Accounts, 10 subjects ]
15 . demamkuning [ Sub Science with ICT , 9 subjects ]
16 . luqman999 [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
17 . blacktubi [ Pure Science + Chinese, 10 subjects ]
18 . nazn [ Pure Science + Accounts, 10 subjects ]
19 . TechnoG [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
20 . D-Frog [ Sub-Science , 9 subjects ]
21 . mingisms [ Pure Science + Accounts, 10 subjects ]
22 . scribblez16 [ Pure Science + Accounts , 10 subjects ]
23 . Deathmax [ Pure Science + EST , 10 subjects ]
24 . PoPoBear [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
25 . fourdgrace [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
26 . Unleashed [ Pure Science + Tasawwur Islam + Bahasa Arab , 11 subjects ]
27 . green_algae [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
28 . superific6 [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
29 . syed shams [ Pure Science + Pendidikan Syariah Islamiah + Pendidikan Quran Sunnah + Bahasa Arab , 11 subjects ]
30 . Azer96 [ Pure Science + Engineering Drawing , 10 subjects ]
31 . ZenXL [ Arts + Commerce , 9 subjects ]
32 . JunHan [ Pure Science + Accounts + Chinese , 11 subjects ]
33 . sporesan [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
34 . x3cream [ Pure Science + Engineering Technology , 10 subjects ]
35 . xZean [ Pure Science + Chinese , 10 subjects ]
36 . assymessy [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
37 . SoulLeapers [ Pure Science + ICT , 10 subjects ]
38 . mooney [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
39 . rifaatx [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
40 . -CoupeFanatic- [ Pure Science + Basic Economics + Chinese, 11 subjects ]
41 . dccldccl [ Pure Science , 9 subjects ]
42 . kailangley [ Pure Science + ICT , 10 subjects ]

List of subjects , according to streams

Core subjects
Bahasa Melayu
English
Mathematics
Moral Education / Islamic Studies
History
General Science [ for non-science students ]

Pure Science
Additional Mathematics
Physics
Chemistry
Biology

Science and Technology
English for Science and Technology [ EST ]
Information Technology and Communication [ ICT ]
Applied Science
Applied Mathematics
Fundamentals of Programming

Commerce
Additional Mathematics
Principles of Accounting
Basic Economics
Commerce [ Perdagangan ]

Arts/Humanities/Languages
Commerce
Visual Arts
Geography
Literature in English
Kesusasteraan Melayu
Chinese Literature
Tamil Literature

Religion
Bible Knowledge
Tasawwur Islam

Grade System

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Please PM me your streams + number of subjects , and I'll update the list . Any names missing , do let me know .

List of Useful Websites / Resources

Trial SPM Papers

Joshuatlyhttp://edu.joshuatly.com/category/spm/

Bahasa Melayu

BM SPM [ Highly Recommended Website for BM ]
LamanBahasa KOMSAS [ Contains all the notes for KOMSAS, official ones by BPK ]
Cikgu Mohd Khir Kassim [ Highly experienced, Guru Cemerlang in BM SPM/STPM ]
Dr. Ghazali Lateh [ Another highly experienced teacher with lots of sample essays for BM ]

English

SPM English 1119
Learn Teach Love [ An English teacher's blog , contains some useful info ]
Links are compiled by a very helpful senior , Lum Kar Kit and I . Any more useful finds / links are welcomed . Let us make this thing grow .
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QUOTE(green_algae @ Jan 8 2013, 10:33 PM)
joined today just to make war with other ppl? hmm.gif
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I just posted it and reply so fast?hmm must be a crouch potato.
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QUOTE(MahaiiZaii @ Jan 8 2013, 10:44 PM)
I just posted it and reply so fast?hmm must be a crouch potato.
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ok boss,i tak nak gaduh dengan u.

if you say im a couch potato,so be it.
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ok boss,i tak nak gaduh dengan u.

if you say im a couch potato,so be it.
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I'm just stating the truth about him. Did I even offend you in anyway?

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I'm just stating the truth about him. Did I even offend you in anyway?
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no,i didnt offend me in any way. sweat.gif
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no,i didnt offend me in any way. sweat.gif
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You took Bible Knowledge? Cool, how was it?  ohmy.gif It's in BM, right?
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It was alright. The only thing I didn't like was that it was held on the same day as Sejarah, in the first week. smile.gif HAHA. But if you've prepared before that, you'll be fine.

The paper is in English, but you can answer in English, Malay, Tamil, Chinese... (: Sounds weird, but its not. HAHA.
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QUOTE(yellowpika @ Jan 8 2013, 10:06 PM)
I thought there are some single sex schools that offer form 6 to both guys and girls, just that form 1 to form 5s are meant for single sex? hmm.gif
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Apparently Form 6 girls can go to all-boys schools but Form 6 guys can't go to all-girls school here. No idea why.  hmm.gif
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La Salle-associated schooling institutions loveee doing that - dubbed as an all-boys school while reserving F6 to girls or having it turned to coed.

F6 guys in an all-girls school? That would be the heaven to some... You get to tapau all the juniors.. laugh.gif


QUOTE(isaacmiranda7 @ Jan 9 2013, 10:38 AM)
It was alright. The only thing I didn't like was that it was held on the same day as Sejarah, in the first week. smile.gif HAHA. But if you've prepared before that, you'll be fine.

The paper is in English, but you can answer in English, Malay, Tamil, Chinese... (: Sounds weird, but its not. HAHA.
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So Bible Knowledge emphasises more on memorising rather than utilising your own logic? Were you supposed to study just a small portion of the Bible?
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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Jan 9 2013, 11:14 AM)
So Bible Knowledge emphasises more on memorising rather than utilising your own logic? Were you supposed tostudy just a small portion of the Bible?
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That's why its called Bible KNOWLEDGE, not Theological Understanding and Reasoning smile.gif
We studied Luke and Acts, thoroughly. Reasoning is not really encouraged as different denominations have different interpretations of the scriptures. So, its a relatively superficial level of interpretation that is tested, but you will get to know those two books of the Bible really well. If not on a spiritual level, at least the happenings, and the word.
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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Jan 9 2013, 11:14 AM)
F6 guys in an all-girls school? That would be the heaven to some... You get to tapau all the juniors..  laugh.gif
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I LOL-ed hard at that...



...Then as it sank in, I went to sit in a corner to emo while wondering why this cruel world was so unfair.
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QUOTE(isaacmiranda7 @ Jan 9 2013, 11:35 AM)
That's why its called Bible KNOWLEDGE, not Theological Understanding and Reasoning smile.gif
We studied Luke and Acts, thoroughly. Reasoning is not really encouraged as different denominations have different interpretations of the scriptures. So, its a relatively superficial level of interpretation that is tested, but you will get to know those two books of the Bible really well. If not on a spiritual level, at least the happenings, and the word.
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Ooh, inturdasting.. I totally forgot about the denominations part. Thank you for explaining btw.

QUOTE(Seb_back2back @ Jan 9 2013, 05:00 PM)
I LOL-ed hard at that...
...Then as it sank in, I went to sit in a corner to emo while wondering why this cruel world was so unfair.
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I don't get the emo-ness, you don't look that bad tbh..
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I don't get the emo-ness, you don't look that bad tbh..
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It was meant as a joke. laugh.gif

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I have a question regarding my friend,

he takes physics, chemistry and accounting (dropped Bio).

He wants to be a pilot, but he is now dropping his chemistry and is supported by his parents. I mean, can the school allow that kind of subject drops?


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QUOTE(maximR @ Jan 8 2013, 08:14 PM)
This may be random , but Sekolah Tinggi Kluang is a great school for STPM .
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Of course it is, my former high school flex.gif
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QUOTE(Seb_back2back @ Jan 9 2013, 06:09 PM)
It was meant as a joke. laugh.gif

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I was messing with you. Were you shocked.. or scared? laugh.gif


Oh, just thought it would be a good share if you haven't watched it.




QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 10 2013, 12:46 AM)
Of course it is, my former high school  flex.gif
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You're from Johor? Wow I guess you literally went across peninsular Malaysia via the long route....
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I was messing with you. Were you shocked.. or scared?  laugh.gif
Oh, just thought it would be a good share if you haven't watched it.


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Thanks for sharing the video. smile.gif

And yeah, you had me there for a while. laugh.gif I felt...exposed. Lol.
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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Jan 10 2013, 06:56 AM)
You're from Johor? Wow I guess you literally went across peninsular Malaysia via the long route....
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Yep. Long journey, and long "journey".
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QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 10 2013, 12:46 AM)
Of course it is, my former high school  flex.gif
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Did you take STPM? Why is it considered to be a good school for STPM?
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 10 2013, 12:19 AM)
I have a question regarding my friend,

he takes physics, chemistry and accounting (dropped Bio).

He wants to be a pilot, but he is now dropping his chemistry and is supported by his parents. I mean, can the school allow that kind of subject drops?
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I dropped Chemistry and Add. Math. smile.gif No problem there for me, as I'm not going to do anything science related in the future anyway. But I only dropped Add. Math cause I had to choose between Add Math or Literature.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 10 2013, 12:19 AM)
I have a question regarding my friend,

he takes physics, chemistry and accounting (dropped Bio).

He wants to be a pilot, but he is now dropping his chemistry and is supported by his parents. I mean, can the school allow that kind of subject drops?
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I got two friend who droped Chemistry during last year's SPM. The first one dropped Chemistry and substitute it with Account. The other one dropped both Account and Chemistry.
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QUOTE(isaacmiranda7 @ Jan 10 2013, 11:41 AM)
I dropped Chemistry and Add. Math. smile.gif No problem there for me, as I'm not going to do anything science related in the future anyway. But I only dropped Add. Math cause I had to choose between Add Math or Literature.
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QUOTE(rain_wolf @ Jan 10 2013, 02:29 PM)
I got two friend who droped Chemistry during last year's SPM. The first one dropped Chemistry and substitute it with Account. The other one dropped both Account and Chemistry.
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Drop chem but still having physics or not?
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 10 2013, 05:31 PM)
Drop chem but still having physics or not?
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Yeap, both of them had physics.
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QUOTE(blueflame @ Jan 10 2013, 10:46 AM)
Did you take STPM? Why is it considered to be a good school for STPM?
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it's not just good for stpm, it's good for spm as well. STK is one of the top daily school in Johor, now already categorized as cluster school. With a good mix of any races and gender, students all with good discipline. Teachers are very experienced there as well.

STPM students from this school is only for science-stream ones.... so you know all of them are among the top-tiers student coming there. Art-streams not there.

I didn't take stpm, my time was only up till form 5 there.

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My school do not allowed such issue to be brought up, apparently , my classs teacher told us we couldnt be dropping any subject as we are in the science class rclxub.gif
how can this relate?
all he told us is, just tidak hadir, which will hold a really bad reputation for US
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QUOTE(D-Frog @ Jan 12 2013, 12:17 AM)
My school do not allowed such issue to be brought up, apparently , my classs teacher told us we couldnt be dropping any subject as we are in the science class rclxub.gif
how can this relate?
all he told us is, just tidak hadir, which will hold  a really bad reputation for US
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There is no such official rule to ignore a request to drop subjects, especially during registration.
If this really occurs during the registration of subjects, contact the education department.
This is a serious case then.
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QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 11 2013, 09:53 PM)
it's not just good for stpm, it's good for spm as well. STK is one of the top daily school in Johor, now already categorized as cluster school. With a good mix of any races and gender, students all with good discipline. Teachers are very experienced there as well.

STPM students from this school is only for science-stream ones.... so you know all of them are among the top-tiers student coming there. Art-streams not there.

I didn't take stpm, my time was only up till form 5 there.
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I'm sure your school is very well known and produces students who obtain fantastic results in their SPM and STPM. But I'm equally sure that there are 'top-tier' Arts stream students, just that there aren't as many as their science counterparts. I was and will continue to be an Arts student and while I do not consider myself in any way to be 'top-tier', there are Arts students in Malaysia who are obtaining 4 flat and 5As in their STPM. Yes, the number of Arts students who achieve such results is small. Yes, Science students generally study harder and score better. But not ALL Arts students play the fool and can't speak proper English.

Now please don't get me wrong here, I have deep admiration for schools that produce top quality students who excel academically, in sports or other co-curricular activities. And I'm sure your school falls into this elite category. But I think it's really wrong to say that 'You know my school is good because we only have Science students and no Arts students.' I personally find this stereotyping ridiculous, especially when it is proven that there are Arts students who excel in their studies.

I apologize if my post is offensive in any way.
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haha no offense at all. I wasn't sure on the reason why the school changed their way around 10 years back, there used to be art streams too there. I was only pseudo-science myself, with visual arts/econs as additional subjects in spm. Feel myself more to Art-streams myself, I love something that I can visualize, not numbers or science.... that's the reason why I didn't opt for my school's STPM at all. Went to other path instead. My older sis was Art-stream student there too, and hey we both got MUET band 5. I never mentioned Art-students can't speak good english at all lol.

No offense. Sorry if you misunderstand my post above. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Can I do about being a prefect? hmm.gif
Suggestions are welcomed...

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QUOTE(D-Frog @ Jan 12 2013, 12:17 AM)
My school do not allowed such issue to be brought up, apparently , my classs teacher told us we couldnt be dropping any subject as we are in the science class rclxub.gif
how can this relate?
all he told us is, just tidak hadir, which will hold  a really bad reputation for US
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Wouldn't it would be better if the school admin permits those who wants to drop their weak subject? At least, they wouldn't fail in that particular subject and prevent the school from reaching 100% passing rate. Also, they can concentrate at the other subjects better.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 10 2013, 12:19 AM)
I have a question regarding my friend,

he takes physics, chemistry and accounting (dropped Bio).

He wants to be a pilot, but he is now dropping his chemistry and is supported by his parents. I mean, can the school allow that kind of subject drops?
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Sure
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some school disallow dropping subject since they want to jaga face or <put any logical and not butthurting reason here>

but usually some school will allow since they want the best out of their student but of course there's some requirement like have to score at least <Put grade here> in mid terms or march test so they will know that you can survive with the changes.

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Knock, knock. Is anybody here?
So, how has Form 5 life been treating you guys?

QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 11 2013, 09:53 PM)
it's not just good for stpm, it's good for spm as well. STK is one of the top daily school in Johor, now already categorized as cluster school. With a good mix of any races and gender, students all with good discipline. Teachers are very experienced there as well.

STPM students from this school is only for science-stream ones.... so you know all of them are among the top-tiers student coming there. Art-streams not there.

I didn't take stpm, my time was only up till form 5 there.
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Ahhhh, sounds just like my previous school. smile.gif
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It's been great...idk but IMO for some reason all the teacher are giving their best...suddenly like wanna help you score A+ mode...last year have same teacher also but no this kind of attitude. Keep guiding us step by step and very caring...hmmm

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Hi there . It has been a while . But now that I've had my nap , and my time , I'll update on my current progress . If possible , I'll do this as much as I can starting from this post , so that one day , it'll help some juniors and they can assess whether they're progressing in their studies or not , or even see the challenges I faced all the way up to SPM -- to understand that it's normal not to know in the early stages . I will create a blog and have this SPM log in which I'll update my study progress , if time permits . Anyway , here's a general commentary about form five :

Form five is hectic . Form four definitely isn't . Some may say they are the same but it really isn't for me . First of all , I have started to actually do my homework , which is an improvement , I didn't touch my homework aside from a few BM or English essays that had to be done . I found that both Maths and Add Maths homework are a complete waste of time ; I prefer doing exercise on my own . Doing hundreds of questions testing you on a certain topic you've mastered isn't going to help much . Instead , once you've understood a particular concept , drop the exercises and jump to a new concept .

As for BM , I've been reading some sample karangan and is starting to pay attention on several techniques on developing a paragraph , from many of the karangan books I've bought last year which the only time I had touched were before my final year form four exams . Same goes to English , I'm practising writing summaries . It's interesting to note that my current problem is Sejarah , as I've only glanced through the first few pages and I'm not proud of that . I'm done with rate of reactions ( Chemistry ) , but after several exercises yesterday , there are several tiny aspects to be revised , especially on the curves that involve intersection . But so far , I think I'm doing fine in Chemistry , my form four base is pretty fine , there are some forgotten facts from the last chapter as well as Salts but I believe they will all come back when I revise . Biology , finished the entire circulatory system , will jump to plants , and proceed to exercises right after that . Haven't touched Pendidikan Moral , but I'll do some trial papers and finish memorising all the definisi and kata kunci later .

So here's the interesting part :

I'll be having extra classes every Saturday , 10 weeks of BM . The speaker is my guru penolong kanan , and he's also the ketua pemeriksa BM for kertas satu ( his wife marks kertas dua ) so he's very experienced . I'm starting to appreciate my school's effort in helping us students . Also , he has implemented a new program called Guru Muda , where he trains 30 students including me , and we're required to then assist other students according to colour codes which are grade indicators . Our first training finished today morning , it was on karangan . Here's my concern though : To assist the red colour coded students , if I am given the task to guide the red colour coded students ( red means G grade ) . They have big problems with tatabahasa , I don't think teaching them how to write deductive or inductive paragraphs would be a good idea . Aside from that small concern , I'm looking forward to the program .

I'm staying back on Fridays to revise Ekonomi Asas with my principal , who interestingly , is also a ketua pemeriksa . What I'm currently doing is I practise past year questions only ( my mastery on the form four topics isn't that good ) and she's marking it , and then discussing about my mistakes .

And here's a surprising twist :

I've joined a tuition class for Physics , conducted by an experienced tutor , Lee Cheng Xi who authors several books and that Whizz Thru book under Oxford Fajar . I attended my first tuition class in my entire life days ago , on Thursday . What pains me is Physics is my best subject , I haven't had any major problems in it , I managed to finish the first chapter of form five , Waves in two weeks . But recently I've come to realise that my Physics teacher in school not only doesn't know how to plan experiments in paper three , who doesn't even know if the formulae sheet will be provided in SPM or not . Yes , I'm attending tuition classes just to learn the answering techniques for Physics , which is kind of sad if you think about , you start to realise that SPM is all about answering techniques . blush.gif Apart from that , my tutor supplies past year questions from 2003 , as well as trial papers , complete with discussions about the answers as well as informative lectures , he had explained the Wave concepts really well . He also discusses about time management for paper 3 , strategies for section B and C in paper two , and interesting facts like paper three being the least important paper in Physics which only serves as a more detailed indicator about your grade , whether you're an A- , A , or A+ student , and it has the most strict marking scheme of all three papers . But the class is too crowded -- 77 students , which is beyond claustrophobic , and sacrificing my afternoon nap on Thursdays is a huge leap , my eyelids were so heavy . That being said , I have one less subject to worry about , I no longer need to print out all the trial papers , answer schemes and also bother seniors about which experiments to memorise , which to not as all my questions were finally answered in his class .

Before I leave you with this post , here's a progress log :

BM - Starting to work on all the aspects of the subject
English - Concentrating on summaries
Biology - Finished circulatory system , will go on to plants but certain parts like immunity and lymphatic system needs to be revised further
Physics - Done with Waves , will practice more essay questions
Chemistry - Finished Rates of Reaction , a lot of essay questions to be done
Sejarah - None existent . Warning to self : Start working on your Sejarah
Moral - Trial papers to be done
Ekonomi Asas - Must finish form four chapters and start immediately with the first chapter of form five after that
Additional Mathematics - Finished Arithmetic Progression , need to practise more ( I have to admit , my Add Maths progress is pretty slow )
Mathematics - Finished the first chapter , chapter 2 , only inequalities left . Past year questions to be done

So , a lot to be done , right ? At least this is better than not having to do anything , like form four where I lazed around most of the time . tongue.gif

That's all .

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QUOTE(maximR @ Jan 19 2013, 07:44 PM)
He also discusses about time management for paper 3 , strategies for section B and C in paper two , and interesting facts like paper three being the least important paper in Physics which only serves as a more detailed indicator about your grade , whether you're an A- , A , or A+ student , and it has the most strict marking scheme of all three papers .
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Oh my god, if that's true, no more A for physics already.. sad.gif
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Oh my god, if that's true, no more A for physics already.. sad.gif
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I felt that horrible sinking feeling too..

But whatever happens, happens. There's nothing we can do about it anymore. The only thing to do now to forget about it and move forward.

Easier said than done though.

*Crossing my fingers hoping it's not true because I've never heard of such thing.*

maximR ,
Do you enjoy studying?
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Here's my progress.

I'm ranked 21 out of 270-310 students of my batch.
I got elected as a secretary for English club ZZZZZZZZ.
My tuition is SO HECTIC

Monday I have BM
Tuesday I have Physics
Wednesday I have Biology
Thursday I have Add Maths and Sejarah
Friday I have Chemistry.

Not only that I have 20023020130120 homeworks a day like crazy man. I've been having lack of sleep thank god I slept for like 11 hours this weekend.

My form 4 IDK HOW ANYMORE so many homeworks and tuitions like crazy.

I guess I just need to do exercises instead of revising it again to remember everything again.

I've concluded that Saturday will be my Form 4 + homework day while Sunday would be my Form 5 day and Friday night would be my rest day.

I'm focusing more on Physics and Add Maths because I have a form 4 physics and add maths test this 31st January zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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77 students.... lu bayar brapa?

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Maxium, may you please share a bit on the answering techniques for Physics?

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That's a general question , you'll have to specify just a bit , whether it's about essays or paper 3 practical .

happy_berry , RM 50 . There are still students coming in . :/ But he'll displace about half of the students into another class with a different teacher . It's like , after about 5 years , I'm finally learning from a teacher who knows his stuff . I cannot describe the feeling , it's like ... after being in a shell for so long , you've finally come out ....

And when doing the collection of questions from 2003-2012 ( Waves ) , Paper 1 , it was so enlightening ... If you've mastered the topic , you can just look at the question and know the answer immediately . The same can't be said for paper 2 though , they do come out with new questions , sometimes with the same concepts .

Also , comment on 2012 Physics Waves question : There was one question where the answer is way off the actual answer . And the paper 3 Young's double slit experiment was pretty challenging as well , if you don't have a strong grasp of ax/D , some of the candidates in 2012 used rulers to measure the length of the first consecutive bright fringes , which is incorrect .
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Actually I got a typo...not physics cuz last term exam my physics was the best among my 3 sciences. I meant to write Chem and Bio

For both of them the part I suck most is Section B and C for paper 2.

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QUOTE(maximR @ Jan 20 2013, 11:27 AM)


Also , comment on 2012 Physics Waves question : There was one question where the answer is way off the actual answer .
which paper ?


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QUOTE(maximR @ Jan 20 2013, 11:27 AM)
Also , comment on 2012 Physics Waves question : There was one question where the answer is way off the actual answer . And the paper 3 Young's double slit experiment was pretty challenging as well , if you don't have a strong grasp of ax/D , some of the candidates in 2012 used rulers to measure the length of the first consecutive bright fringes , which is incorrect .
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I used the ruler in the diagram to measure I guess.

Great, no more A- for physics already.. cry.gif
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Jan 20 2013, 08:28 PM)
which paper ?
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QUOTE(yellowpika @ Jan 20 2013, 09:24 PM)
I used the ruler in the diagram to measure I guess.

Great, no more A- for physics already.. cry.gif
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Correct la. You are supposed to use the rulers provided in the diagram.

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Huaaa I'm so scared for Physics. Out of all the 3 science subjects... Physics is the hardest sad.gif I really want A+... but omg :'(( crying
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Hi there! You're back!  biggrin.gif
been here all the time ... just waiting March for result announcement
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Hi there! You're back!  biggrin.gif
Correct la. You are supposed to use the rulers provided in the diagram.
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To find x , distance between two fringes , you measure y using the ruler , but for x , you need to use y/4 . He said many candidates used the ruler to measure x and lost marks .
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To find x , distance between two fringes , you measure y using the ruler , but for x , you need to use y/4 . He said many candidates used the ruler to measure x and lost marks .
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Ohhh I see. I kinda forgot the question. Haha. Paiseh. blush.gif

Luckily I answered it correctly. At least, I think I did.. Can't remember! sweat.gif
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im a master in that novel already... if you have any questions can ask me  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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nice ! So are we using it for SPM?
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nice ! So are we using it for SPM?
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Please don't tell me you've spent 4+ years of secondary education , not knowing we have choices for novels ? There are a group of states with a prescribed novel . I'm doing Step by Wicked Step .
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Just confused because I have Step by Wicked Step. Suddenly teacher gave me Catch Us If You Can.
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tongue.gif i dont know

Just confused because I have Step by Wicked Step. Suddenly teacher gave me Catch Us If You Can.
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If you're good , you can do both . No problem . I prefer focusing on one novel only , like what I did in PMR .
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guys, can we use graph ruler during spm? those bendable ruler.
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guys, can we use graph ruler during spm? those bendable ruler.
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guys, can we use graph ruler during spm? those bendable ruler.
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But I do found the bendable ruler is a waste of time
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QUOTE(Leowyy8 @ Jan 25 2013, 09:35 PM)
guys, can we use graph ruler during spm? those bendable ruler.
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Yes , it's called a flexi-curve . Without it I can't draw quadratic / cubic / reciprocal functions , so it's a life saver . smile.gif
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my graph really tak boleh pakai =___=
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To find x , distance between two fringes , you measure y using the ruler , but for x , you need to use y/4 . He said many candidates used the ruler to measure x and lost marks .
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No more A- for me then.. sweat.gif
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Guys , I'm buying a new revision book for biology. I'd like to know if essential biology (longman) is good.I bought nexus before but didn't like it.
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QUOTE(Allium @ Jan 27 2013, 01:45 PM)
Guys , I'm buying a new revision book for biology. I'd like to know if essential biology (longman) is good.I bought nexus before but didn't like it.
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I'd personally recommend SUCCESS . It's very good .

Essential is okay , I don't really like it as sometimes , the information will stray away from the textbook . And the terms used differ slightly too , e.g , thromboplastin / thrombokinase . If you've read the new BM Biology textbook , you'll see that the Essential book follows it , while SUCCESS follows our English version Biology textbook .
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Good luck to all SPM candidates this year.Give your best shot and firing all cylinders.Always ask teachers or friends if have any difficulties in answering questions.It is the last examinations of the secondary schools.Ticket to further study in University start now.
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I hope some seniors from the 2012 SPM Thread will see this .

When describing / planning experiments , be it for Paper 2 or Paper 3 , must we include the apparatus used in the procedure ? Many trial papers' mark schemes don't include the apparatus .

Example :

1 . 50 cubic centimetres of 0.2 mol / cubic decimetres of sodium thiosulphate solution is measured and poured into a conical flask using a 10 cubic centimetres measuring cylinder .

I always include the apparatus but my teacher says once the volume is stated , it isn't necessary .

Also :

Number of particles per unit volume , or number of hydrogen ions per unit volume ? Experiment regarding the effect of temperature on the rate of reaction between hydrochloric acid and sodium thiosulphate solution .

Plus :

2011 SPM Paper 3 , same experiment ( or was it about concentration ? ) , a question asks :

State one observation .
The mark scheme in the past year questions book states :

Yellow precipitate is formed .

I thought it should be 'the time taken for the mark 'X' to disappear in Experiment 1 is the shortest' because we can look at the time on the stopwatch , but not the colour of the precipitate ?

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So guys ,
Which subject you couldn't score in every exam ?? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(maximR @ Feb 1 2013, 02:23 PM)
I hope some seniors from the 2012 SPM Thread will see this .

When describing / planning experiments , be it for Paper 2 or Paper 3 , must we include the apparatus used in the procedure ? Many trial papers' mark schemes don't include the apparatus .

Example :

1 . 50 cubic centimetres of 0.2 mol / cubic decimetres of sodium thiosulphate solution is measured and poured into a conical flask using a 10 cubic centimetres measuring cylinder .

I always include the apparatus but my teacher says once the volume is stated , it isn't necessary .

Just include it if you can, otherwise don't. But you must include it in experiments that require very accurate volumes of solution like titration and preparation of standard solution.
Also :

Number of particles per unit volume , or number of hydrogen ions per unit volume ? Experiment regarding the effect of temperature on the rate of reaction between hydrochloric acid and sodium thiosulphate solution .

When answering a question specific to the reaction, you have to use the name of reactant particles. But if you just answering in general, the term 'particles' is good enough.
Plus :

2011 SPM Paper 3 , same experiment ( or was it about concentration ? ) , a question asks :

State one observation .
The mark scheme in the past year questions book states :

Yellow precipitate is formed .

I thought it should be 'the time taken for the mark 'X' to disappear in Experiment 1 is the shortest' because we can look at the time on the stopwatch , but not the colour of the precipitate ?

Unsure. But I don't think the book is wrong in this case.
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Just got the news from my teacher who's an SU Peperiksaan :

6th of November , 2013 , will be our first day of SPM .

According to him .
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Skema for Malay Rumusan changed.
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Plus :

2011 SPM Paper 3 , same experiment ( or was it about concentration ? ) , a question asks :

State one observation .
The mark scheme in the past year questions book states :

Yellow precipitate is formed .

I thought it should be 'the time taken for the mark 'X' to disappear in Experiment 1 is the shortest' because we can look at the time on the stopwatch , but not the colour of the precipitate ?
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I think the book's answer is acceptable.

What do you mean by you can't observe the colour of the precipitate? Can't we? Do enlighten me. hmm.gif

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So guys ,
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Feb 1 2013, 10:36 PM)
Don't know I am late or not.

Skema for Malay Rumusan changed.
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It changed 2 years ago ... Is the change about ... di Malaysia / di negara / tema petikan for pendahuluan ? If yes, that's an old story . Also words like seperti are not accepted in Rumusan .
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QUOTE(maximR @ Feb 1 2013, 07:03 PM)
Just got the news from my teacher who's an SU Peperiksaan :

6th of November , 2013 , will be our first day of SPM .

According to him .
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ohmy.gif Thats's early.We're now in February , how time flies cry.gif

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BM, and only BM  cry.gif
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I agree.Never got an A before sweat.gif

Anyway, I'm planning to get fx570ES calculator.I'd like to know the price and if it's worth it.

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QUOTE(Allium @ Feb 3 2013, 05:31 PM)
ohmy.gif Thats's early.We're now in February , how time flies  cry.gif
I agree.Never got an A before  sweat.gif

Anyway, I'm planning to get fx570ES calculator.I'd like to know the price and if it's worth it.
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Yeah and we have approx 9 more months to SPM .
You've never gotten an A for BM ? blink.gif What's your main problem , karangan ?

I bought it for about RM 40 at Popular , with student discount .
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QUOTE(maximR @ Feb 2 2013, 12:08 PM)
It changed 2 years ago ... Is the change about ... di Malaysia / di negara / tema petikan for pendahuluan ? If yes, that's an old story . Also words like seperti are not accepted in Rumusan .
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Something like this but got more changes according to 2012 skema

Pendahuluan is shorter now. It is easier to score Rumusan now in short laugh.gif
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Allium Get the 570ES Plus

Worth the extra bucks, found it having better keys and faster calculation VS usual the usual one

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Feb 3 2013, 07:37 PM)
Something like this but got more changes according to 2012 skema

Pendahuluan is shorter now. It is easier to score Rumusan now in short laugh.gif
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Pendahuluan for Rumusan has always been short ... When was it long ?

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Pendahuluan for Rumusan has always been short ... When was it long ?
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It had been revised again this time.

Wait somebody release SPM skema on the net then laugh.gif
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It had been revised again this time.

Wait somebody release SPM skema on the net then laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SoulLeapers @ Feb 4 2013, 04:48 PM)
It should be..."Petikan membincangkan [tajuk isi tersurat] secara menyeluruh."

Correct me if I'm wrong biggrin.gif
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I thought its "Di Malaysia" for the ending?

Anyways, my school no CNY holidays, WTF la.. only cuti monday and tuesday
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Feb 4 2013, 05:29 PM)
I thought its "Di Malaysia" for the ending?

Anyways, my school no CNY holidays, WTF la.. only cuti monday and tuesday
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It's still better by comparison to my school doh.gif
We will be taking our test right after the one week break doh.gif
It's new year mang

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Feb 4 2013, 03:13 PM)
It had been revised again this time.

Wait somebody release SPM skema on the net then laugh.gif
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The mark schemes are confidential you know , how on earth would they be published on the net ? I think what you meant is the proper answering technique . However , my BM teacher is a head of examiner for BM and when conducting his classes , they remain the same .

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I thought its "Di Malaysia" for the ending?

Anyways, my school no CNY holidays, WTF la.. only cuti monday and tuesday
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private school or international school?

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Hello maxim, speak and techno! tongue.gif
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I'm a candidate with Pure Science and Chinese, 10 subjects. smile.gif
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private school or international school?
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QUOTE(xCALLUM @ Feb 4 2013, 09:57 PM)
Hello maxim, speak and techno! tongue.gif
Just realised the existence of thss thread lol.
I'm a candidate with Pure Science and Chinese, 10 subjects. smile.gif
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sup.

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Private religious school, can also be called international because got many foreign students
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pretty sad right? hahahaa. you cant really travel much during that period I guess. sad.gif
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Feb 4 2013, 11:50 PM)
pretty sad right? hahahaa. you cant really travel much during that period I guess. sad.gif
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Yeah, I thought I wanna go and see Psy's concert in Penang  sad.gif ..

This year also got KL international Motorshow during SPM, haiyaa why everything have to happen during SPM year...
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Btw, u guys taking driving license before or after SPM? These days got so many extra class, I dont want to burden my grandpa have to pick me up from school..

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Btw, u guys taking driving license before or after SPM? These days got so many extra class, I dont want to burden my grandpa have to pick me up from school..
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Definitely before SPM laugh.gif

Since I am born in May, anyway, you can take Undang first if I am right.
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Definitely before SPM laugh.gif

Since I am born in May, anyway, you can take Undang first if I am right.
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Our first day of SPM will be on the 6th of November , ends on the 5th of December . No more ample holidays for us , unlike the SPM 2012-ians . sad.gif

Anyway , Chinese New Year is nearly over , it's time to seriously get real . No more fooling around . I've to remind myself of my goal .

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Wah, 6th November start. *marks down in calendar*
Btw, anyone going for any seminars? I went once when I was preparing for PMR and it wasn't on par with my expectations. yawn.gif
Since then, I have avoided every seminar that my school endorses or advertises.
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My Chemistry teacher decided to skip Carbon Compounds , so did all the other teachers in Port Dickson . What do you think ? Should I try to study it first ?

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I did not attend any seminars in form three . I think I will attend some this year because the teachers are good . I do attend all of the workshops my school teachers conduct since I've been told that when it comes to school programs , I'm not a game player .

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There was a lot of incidents where the particular day and time I had Chemistry, somethings happened. (Veteran teacher's retirement day, public holiday, etc). So my teacher only managed to finish off Rate of Reactions and its associated peka project. rclxms.gif

Speaking of workshops, I do believe that the school endorsed or organized workshops can be beneficial as opposed to seminars where I have to fork out an amount of cash. biggrin.gif
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[ Accounts + Arts + English Literature, 11 Subjects ]
That includes 'if' I take Commerce. Don't know if I should take it.
But, also don't wanna waste time doing something I'm not sure.
Teachers and parents said I should, but I'm not confident enough.
Should I just take it or not? ;A;
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Checking in too. biggrin.gif
[ Accounts + Arts + English Literature, 11 Subjects ]
That includes 'if' I take Commerce. Don't know if I should take it.
But, also don't wanna waste time doing something I'm not sure.
Teachers and parents said I should, but I'm not confident enough.
Should I just take it or not? ;A;
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Welcome ! We are now 44 candidates-strong . But only a few are active . blush.gif

Anyway , you're our very first Accounts student ! tongue.gif
11 subjects is considered the upper limit , for me . Do you take E.A as well ? Whether you can handle an extra subject or not depends solely on you , not yor parents and your teachers . I'd suggest that you not take it . Why ? You will not realise the workload for now . When the d-day comes , you'll definitely feel the heat . Especially during the trial exams . I would prefer doing well in only 10 subjects instead of being the jack of all trades , and the master of none .

Oh , and I registered for SPM , with my pure science subjects and E.A ! No more playing the fool with E.A . My goal is to finish all the chapters and start spamming past year papers .

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There was a lot of incidents where the particular day and time I had Chemistry, somethings happened. (Veteran teacher's retirement day, public holiday, etc). So my teacher only managed to finish off Rate of Reactions and its associated peka project.  rclxms.gif

Speaking of workshops, I do believe that the school endorsed or organized workshops can be beneficial as opposed to seminars where I have to fork out an amount of cash. biggrin.gif
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Welcome ! We are now 44 candidates-strong . But only a few are active .  blush.gif

Anyway , you're our very first Accounts student ! tongue.gif
11 subjects is considered the upper limit , for me . Do you take E.A as well ? Whether you can handle an extra subject or not depends solely on you , not yor parents and your teachers . I'd suggest that you not take it . Why ? You will not realise the workload for now . When the d-day comes , you'll definitely feel the heat . Especially during the trial exams . I would prefer doing well in only 10 subjects instead of being the jack of all trades , and the master of none .

Oh , and I registered for SPM , with my pure science subjects and E.A ! No more playing the fool with E.A . My goal is to finish all the chapters and start spamming past year papers .
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Thank you smile.gif

E.A? No, I don't. Because there's Commerce. The problem is, I already made my decision on not to take it. That was the decision I've made since last year because the teaching method of last year's Commerce teacher was soooooo hard to understand. Even other students have difficulty understanding it. That is until this year when we got ourselves a good teacher. It was fun. But I still can't understand it. Is it because that I'm merely not interested in it or is it I'm understanding it in the wrong way? Nevertheless, I still stick to that decision. Even though they say that if there's something you're not interested in it, you have to. I wouldn't want to risk it. I mean, it's SPM. The crucial year of all. I'm tingling all over just thinking about it x_x Then there's this teacher willing to teach me thoroughly. She said try sitting for UK1 first. If I do that, then I'll have to face the consequences all to myself depending on how I do.

Well anyway, I'll see first. There're other things to worry about like Accounts. And of course, the addition of 2 subjects. I was wondering the best method to understand something. Like how you're taking E.A. It's almost the same as Commerce right? Correct me if I'm wrong biggrin.gif

P.S: I heard from a friend that if we don't sit for a certain paper on that day, it won't affect our SPM results?
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QUOTE(Xanfiore @ Feb 17 2013, 10:03 PM)
Thank you smile.gif

E.A? No, I don't. Because there's Commerce. The problem is, I already made my decision on not to take it. That was the decision I've made since last year because the teaching method of last year's Commerce teacher was soooooo hard to understand. Even other students have difficulty understanding it. That is until this year when we got ourselves a good teacher. It was fun. But I still can't understand it. Is it because that I'm merely not interested in it or is it I'm understanding it in the wrong way? Nevertheless, I still stick to that decision. Even though they say that if there's something you're not interested in it, you have to. I wouldn't want to risk it. I mean, it's SPM. The crucial year of all. I'm tingling all over just thinking about it x_x Then there's this teacher willing to teach me thoroughly. She said try sitting for UK1 first. If I do that, then I'll have to face the consequences all to myself depending on how I do.

Well anyway, I'll see first. There're other things to worry about like Accounts. And of course, the addition of 2 subjects. I was wondering the best method to understand something. Like how you're taking E.A. It's almost the same as Commerce right? Correct me if I'm wrong biggrin.gif

P.S: I heard from a friend that if we don't sit for a certain paper on that day, it won't affect our SPM results?
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Commerce , like E.A , Malay Literature , Geografi , they are all pretty straightforward . No challenging concepts to comprehend , if you compare them to the science subjects . So I guess it has to do with your disinterest towards the subject . If that's the case , then your problem is solved . Don't take it . I wouldn't take a subject that I'm not interested in , unless it's compulsory .

Just tell your teacher that you're not interested . Problem solve . This is the year where you'll need to have an aim , a clear direction . It's also a year where you need to get rid of distractions .

E.A is not the same as Commerce . Firstly , Commerce involves a lot of retention of facts . Whereas E.A revolves around rational understanding of human behaviours . Since in economics you assume that humans make decisions rationally , concepts are intuitive . In the exams , you just need to apply what you've learnt in the cases that are presented . Whereas for Commerce , the cases are aids to help you come up with the facts you've memorised . Also , E.A teaches analytic skills ( like science ) where you are required to draw graphs , come up with models , and do some simple calculations .

Yes , you can do that . But in your temporary 'penyataan sijil' , there will be a TH . So you wouldn't want to do that .


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Done with Rate of Reactions too . It's interesting because it's not that difficult . tongue.gif How about Physics ? We're at Electricity already , series and parallel circuits .
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Need to ask something about Sejarah.

In the textbook, Dato Maharaja Lela's real name is Pandak Limo bin Machang Lela Tuk Mahmud.

However, I couldnt find anything related to the real name on the Internet, Wikipedia told me its Pandak Lam, but isnt Pandak Lam is another individual (not related to Maharaja Lela) in the textbook?
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QUOTE(maximR @ Feb 18 2013, 12:06 AM)
Commerce , like E.A , Malay Literature , Geografi , they are all pretty straightforward . No challenging concepts to comprehend , if you compare them to the science subjects . So I guess it has to do with your disinterest towards the subject . If that's the case , then your problem is solved . Don't take it . I wouldn't take a subject that I'm not interested in , unless it's compulsory .

Just tell your teacher that you're not interested . Problem solve . This is the year where you'll need to have an aim , a clear direction . It's also a year where you need to get rid of distractions .

E.A is not the same as Commerce . Firstly , Commerce involves a lot of retention of facts . Whereas E.A revolves around rational understanding of human behaviours . Since in economics you assume that humans make decisions rationally , concepts are intuitive . In the exams , you just need to apply what you've learnt in the cases that are presented . Whereas for Commerce , the cases are aids to help you come up with the facts you've memorised . Also , E.A teaches analytic skills ( like science ) where you are required to draw graphs , come up with models , and do some simple calculations .

Yes , you can do that . But in your temporary 'penyataan sijil' , there will be a TH . So you wouldn't want to do that .
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I guess it'll be risky taking something that you're not into it. I've already told my teacher of it and since there's no place for me to go during lesson, she said it'll be okay to just listen. It's not wrong to learn something unrelated to us, right? Unlike last year teacher who would throw me out of class just because I'm not taking it. It wasn't easy making that decision. It was even tougher telling that to the teacher, and whats more, she even blurted out in front of my class and talk bad about me including making me a bad example of running away from a challenge. Well, I knew what was coming from her agree-like behavior when I first told her. Guess I was right ;A;

Anyway, enough with the past. Problem solved biggrin.gif
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I am an account student too , lol
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By Accounts I meant those who take only arts subjects with Accounts . Are you not a science stream student ?
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For self-studiers like me , yes , reference books are vital .
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should i stop my biology tuition ?
i dont like it plus it's quite far
in form 4 without tuition i can get good marks
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should i stop my biology tuition ?
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Biology tuition is a waste of time IMO.

Since my school teacher is quite good, provided if I am able to keep my concentration going yawn.gif
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half the time the tuition teacher keep telling stories

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Add Maths answer is just right at my finger tip
I just couldn't grasp it yawn.gif

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what about you ?

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electrical / electronic engineering
i love electricity  lust.gif 
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Ranging from lawyer to mechanical engineering laugh.gif
I had recieved too many negative responds regarding law
So I had to open up more doors by picking up German biggrin.gif
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As for me ,
Ranging from lawyer to mechanical engineering laugh.gif
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should i stop my biology tuition ?
i dont like it plus it's quite far
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Turned 17 today . New spirit . I'm all motivated to go all out for SPM !
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Turned 17 today . New spirit . I'm all motivated to go all out for SPM !
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Well, happy birthday biggrin.gif
How's your language subject doing in grades ? biggrin.gif
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Well, happy birthday biggrin.gif
How's your language subject doing in grades ? biggrin.gif
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Do you mean results of the previous tests and exams , because our first 2013 test is in March .
If that's the case , they are okay . I've got A+s for all of my English tests and exams , but my BM may need more work , since I've only got one A+ ( mid term ) , one A ( first test ) and an A- ( I did horribly for my final exam , BM , and I was worried ) . I'm not satisfied with both of the subjects to be honest -- English because I still haven't grasped the format in and out , and I'm having hiccups during summaries and directed writing ( summary because I couldn't identify most of the required points, directed writing because I sometimes forget to limit the length of my essay ) . For BM , I've a great teacher , and with the extra classes and Guru Muda sessions conducted , I'm getting there . I just need some patience , that's all .

How about you , for other subjects as well ?
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What do u mean self study.do u pay attention in class?
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actually students no need teachers. as long as they have books, they could study the books and score straight A+ in SPM. Simple smile.gif
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But if there's a good teacher , the process will be much smoother and pleasant . smile.gif Some students require teachers to teach concepts they cannot comprehend , like Physics , Maths . Especially Maths , you cannot just read the book and score . There are also things to consider like answering techniques , experiments conducted in lab , etc .
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Just finished ujian awal tahun this week, a very hectic 2 weeks. Freaking sleep deprived but nvm finally get to rest .
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Just finished ujian awal tahun this week, a very hectic 2 weeks. Freaking sleep deprived but nvm finally get to rest .
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Looks like you're a high achiever . People who care less about their studies are happy go lucky all the way , regardless of exams . So , what's your aim ?
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But if there's a good teacher , the process will be much smoother and pleasant . smile.gif Some students require teachers to teach concepts they cannot comprehend , like Physics , Maths . Especially Maths , you cannot just read the book and score . There are also things to consider like answering techniques , experiments conducted in lab , etc .
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How long do you study per day?
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How long do you study per day?
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This is subjective . Sometimes I only spend an hour , if I'm really tired and not in the mood due to extra classes conducted by school . When I'm really in the mood , very motivated , get enough rest , and thinks that in two weeks time there will be an important test / exam coming up , I will spend close to 8 - 10 hours per day . That's my brute force method for subjects like Biology , Sejarah , and sometimes Ekonomi Asas . I then refresh by re-reading what I've studied to make sure I'm able to retain the facts in my brain . For science subjects like Chemistry , Physics , and Maths / Add Maths , I spend about 3 - 4 hours max per day by learning new material or doing exercises ( mostly past year questions from 1993-2004 ) .

I'm going to spend more time studying since this is the final public exam for me .
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Wow Maxim, how you find up to 10 hours each day to study? laugh.gif

My schedule doesn't allow it sad.gif Usually I spend around 2-3 hours only, 1 hour study 1 hour practice another hour to revise/refresh.
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QUOTE(maximR @ Feb 28 2013, 08:52 PM)
This is subjective . Sometimes I only spend an hour , if I'm really tired and not in the mood due to extra classes conducted by school . When I'm really in the mood , very motivated , get enough rest , and thinks that in two weeks time there will be an important test / exam coming up , I will spend close to 8 - 10 hours per day . That's my brute force method for subjects like Biology , Sejarah , and sometimes Ekonomi Asas . I then refresh by re-reading what I've studied to make sure I'm able to retain the facts in my brain . For science subjects like Chemistry , Physics , and Maths / Add Maths , I spend about 3 - 4 hours max per day by learning new material or doing exercises ( mostly past year questions from 1993-2004 ) .

I'm going to spend more time studying since this is the final public exam for me .
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No , if you have mediocre teachers , paying attention in class does little to help your grades . By self-studying , I mean studying at home , on my own , without attending tuition .
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No , I never have enough time during weekdays . On weekends , or during holidays , I wake up pretty late , and I make sure after waking up I have enough time for all the necessary routines , breakfast , shower , etc . Then , when my mood's there already , I'll start . Go on for an hour or two , then break -- with long internet time , with a lot of music . Then continue . Then break for food / TV / busybody-ing . Then continue , and an important break during the evening - I make sure I either skip or jog for at least 30 mins ( mostly skipping ) . Then do other things , and wait for the mood to come back . Then continue with this until about 10 PM where I stop studying completely to do other things like watching TV with family or surfing the net .
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I can never put aside 10 hours to study. I have tuition like everyday plus school finishes quite late for me.The only day I'm free is on Saturday. On normal weekdays I spend maximum 3 hours with the books and after that my brain shuts off. I can't study for more than 3 hours.
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QUOTE(maximR @ Mar 1 2013, 07:18 PM)
No , I never have enough time during weekdays . On weekends , or during holidays , I wake up pretty late , and I make sure after waking up I have enough time for all the necessary routines , breakfast , shower , etc . Then , when my mood's there already , I'll start . Go on for an hour or two , then break -- with long internet time , with a lot of music . Then continue . Then break for food / TV / busybody-ing . Then continue , and an important break during the evening - I make sure I either skip or jog for at least 30 mins ( mostly skipping ) . Then do other things , and wait for the mood to come back . Then continue with this until about 10 PM where I stop studying completely to do other things like watching TV with family or surfing the net .
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QUOTE(Hertz96 @ Mar 2 2013, 03:06 AM)
I can never put aside 10 hours to study. I have tuition like everyday plus school finishes quite late for me.The only day I'm free is on Saturday. On normal weekdays I spend maximum 3 hours with the books and after that my brain shuts off. I can't study for more than 3 hours.
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Don't do full-on 3 hours straight studying.. That is setupid. Our brains can only concentrate for a maximum of 50 minutes - which is why in some universities, classes only last for less than an hour because students can't focus that efficiently beyond 50min.
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No , I never have enough time during weekdays . On weekends , or during holidays , I wake up pretty late , and I make sure after waking up I have enough time for all the necessary routines , breakfast , shower , etc . Then , when my mood's there already , I'll start . Go on for an hour or two , then break -- with long internet time , with a lot of music . Then continue . Then break for food / TV / busybody-ing . Then continue , and an important break during the evening - I make sure I either skip or jog for at least 30 mins ( mostly skipping ) . Then do other things , and wait for the mood to come back . Then continue with this until about 10 PM where I stop studying completely to do other things like watching TV with family or surfing the net .
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So the strategy here is basically Study then Break time then Study then break time rinse and repeat? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Mar 2 2013, 06:02 AM)
Nice touch incorporating a 30-minute workout into your schedule. I do, however, would recommend doing it every day or every other day. Exercise daily and you will feel so energised that you don't even need an afternoon nap.
Don't do full-on 3 hours straight studying.. That is setupid. Our brains can only concentrate for a maximum of 50 minutes - which is why in some universities, classes only last for less than an hour because students can't focus that efficiently beyond 50min.
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No bro, I can't study 3 hours straight. Thts kinda impossible for the brain in me. LoL! I normally study for 45minutes then go have a drink and a small snack and I'm back in my room to continue. After tht I'll have another drink break and again continue. biggrin.gif
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So the strategy here is basically Study then Break time then Study then break time rinse and repeat?  notworthy.gif
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Yea bro! The break is really quite essential in between study time. Cause the brain can't take tht much information in for tht prolonged amount of time. The break for a fast drink or snack is really needed so you can refresh your mind if not you'll probably be drifting away to dream land if you're continuously studying. biggrin.gif
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No bro, I can't study 3 hours straight. Thts kinda impossible for the brain in me. LoL! I normally study for 45minutes then go have a drink and a small snack and I'm back in my room to continue. After tht I'll have another drink break and again continue.  biggrin.gif
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Yes... break and snack, break and snack, lama2 jadi gemok. Well, that is what happened to my friend lol.
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Yes... break and snack, break and snack, lama2 jadi gemok. Well, that is what happened to my friend lol.
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LoL! I guess he took more breaks and snacks than actually studying. nod.gif
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LoL! I guess he took more breaks and snacks than actually studying.  nod.gif
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She didn't take more breaks lol.. She was snacking/munching while studying to keep her minds awake. I guess I should tell her to chew gums instead. sweat.gif For me, I need to listen to music while studying even though people tell me it's a distraction. Still, whatever floats your boat.
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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Mar 2 2013, 09:17 PM)
She didn't take more breaks lol.. She was snacking/munching while studying to keep her minds awake. I guess I should tell her to chew gums instead.  sweat.gif  For me, I need to listen to music while studying even though people tell me it's a distraction. Still, whatever floats your boat.
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Exactly. Many people say tht music is a distraction during studying but I find that I need it and not tht distracting. I like studying with the music on and I need a bottle of cold Ribena beside me just to refresh my mind. =)
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Are thrombokinase and thromboplastin the same?
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Are thrombokinase and thromboplastin the same?
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Yes . If you want to follow the SBP / MARA kids , you'll use thrombokinase ( platelets secret thrombokinase ) .
If you follow the conventional Biology students using the supplied textbook , you'll use thromboplastin ( aggregate of platelets , collagen fibres and clotting factors in blood plasma form activators known as thromboplastins ) .

There are many more weird difference when it comes to Bio terms between SBP / MARA and the rest .
Take chapter 2 for example , the parts of a vertebrae . We use transverse foramen , vertebral foramen , but they use neural canal , and some terms which I've forgotten . The odd part is , in SBP's trial schemes , they use the terms , but when it came to the past year SBP questions printed , they were switched to the terms we 'sekolah harian' students use .
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Yes . If you want to follow the SBP / MARA kids , you'll use thrombokinase ( platelets secret thrombokinase ) .
If you follow the conventional Biology students using the supplied textbook , you'll use thromboplastin ( aggregate of platelets , collagen fibres and clotting factors in blood plasma form activators known as thromboplastins ) .

There are many more weird difference when it comes to Bio terms between SBP / MARA and the rest .
Take chapter 2 for example , the parts of a vertebrae . We use transverse foramen , vertebral foramen , but they use neural canal , and some terms which I've forgotten . The odd part is , in SBP's trial schemes , they use the terms , but when it came to the past year SBP questions printed , they were switched to the terms we 'sekolah harian' students use .
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i see textbook use thrombokinase , while my revision book use thromboplastin
anyways thanks for explaining
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i see textbook use thrombokinase , while my revision book use thromboplastin
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both the same thing ... thromboplastin is more commonly used.
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i see textbook use thrombokinase , while my revision book use thromboplastin
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Wait , you're from which state ? And can I see a pic of your textbook's cover ?
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Wait , you're from which state ? And can I see a pic of your textbook's cover ?
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WoW! That is a different textbook. I thought whole country same textbooks ny. Hmmm. I'm in Negeri Sembilan and mine is different. hmm.gif
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I've got the same textbook.

Yes, it uses thrombokinase.
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I've got the same textbook.

Yes, it uses thrombokinase.
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WoW! That is a different textbook. I thought whole country same textbooks ny. Hmmm. I'm in Negeri Sembilan and mine is different. hmm.gif
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Indeed it is ! Looks like they have better textbooks than us . blush.gif
I'll stick to thromboplastin anyway , as I'm solely using SUCCESS .

To S'gor-ians : Check if your textbook uses vertebrarterial canal , neural arch , neural canal and a long word 'pzysomethingsomething' ? Also check the functions of basophils and eosinophils . Our textbook explains all of the leucocyte's functions in one tiny paragraph .
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SPM Registration opens , or opened -- on March 1 .
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Indeed it is ! Looks like they have better textbooks than us .  blush.gif
I'll stick to thromboplastin anyway , as I'm solely using SUCCESS .

To S'gor-ians : Check if your textbook uses vertebrarterial canal , neural arch , neural canal and a long word 'pzysomethingsomething' ? Also check the functions of basophils and eosinophils . Our textbook explains all of the leucocyte's functions in one tiny paragraph .
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Yeap! Also using SUCCESS.
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QUOTE(maximR @ Mar 5 2013, 08:16 PM)
SPM Registration opens , or opened -- on March 1 .
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Mine closing by this week sad.gif Next week, test worried ._.
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SPM Registration opens , or opened -- on March 1 .
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I just transferred to my new school in Kuala Selangor,
now I have to transfer back to my old school in NS.

My SPM registration will have to hold on. rclxms.gif

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WoW! That is a different textbook. I thought whole country same textbooks ny. Hmmm. I'm in Negeri Sembilan and mine is different. hmm.gif
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I think they have certain zones for distribution of textbooks,like our literature books.
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QUOTE(sporesan @ Mar 5 2013, 09:49 PM)
I just transferred to my new school in Kuala Selangor,
now I have to transfer back to my old school in NS.

My SPM registration will have to hold on.  rclxms.gif
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You moving back to Negeri Sembilan? Which part? Seremban? rclxms.gif
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SPM TIME TABLE IS OUT !

http://www.moe.gov.my/lp/files/spm/2013/DR...0SPM%202013.pdf

Ekonomi Asas doesn't clash with my science subjects ! Yay !
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QUOTE(maximR @ Mar 6 2013, 12:19 PM)
SPM TIME TABLE IS OUT !

http://www.moe.gov.my/lp/files/spm/2013/DR...0SPM%202013.pdf

Ekonomi Asas doesn't clash with my science subjects ! Yay !
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That's fast. The timetable is out and you're back home early. LoL! biggrin.gif
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That's fast. The timetable is out and you're back home early. LoL!  biggrin.gif
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btw if moral didn't memorize nilal , what is the max score you can get ?
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wah...The timetable out d ..feeling the pressure
btw if moral didn't memorize nilal , what is the max score you can get ?
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Bio 88 (menurun.... it was 91 before)
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So exam ended and so far I've gotten my biology, physics and BM marks.

Bio 88 (menurun.... it was 91 before)
Physics 88 (from 64 to 88 so quite happy)
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Hmmm this is just a test haha not exam.

However the formats are similar.
Objectives + structures + essays but thank god only chapter 1 form 5 tongue.gif my class is very competitive so i make sure i work hard even tho it's a test. Though right now I'm aiming for mid terms of course biggrin.gif. My physics is still pretty bad with exception of Form 5 Chapter 1,2 and Form 4 chapter 3,4 so yeah still need to improve my form 4. Biology... I think i just need to revise.
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Hi, guys. Planning to buy the past year papers books in two days time. I think it's out d. What do you guys think about buying which type of past year would be more essential? The one that follow the year or the one that follows the chapters?

Firstly, thanks for the opinions. Keep the opinion coming.

I hope it's never too late to start studying now???
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Hi, guys. Planning to buy the past year papers books in two days time. I think it's out d. What do you guys think about buying which type of past year would be more essential? The one that follow the year or the one that follows the chapters?

Firstly, thanks for the opinions. Keep the opinion coming.

I hope it's never too late to start studying now???
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I think you should buy the past year book and also the past year analisis bertopik book.

Mainly because I always use the analisis bertopik since it tells you how to tackle the types of questions and such and lol it helped me A LOT.
I think for Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Add Maths, Mod Maths, Sejarah and Agama if you're muslim. you should buy.
but you can just buy both.
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QUOTE(lee.01 @ Mar 9 2013, 12:00 AM)
Hi, guys. Planning to buy the past year papers books in two days time. I think it's out d. What do you guys think about buying which type of past year would be more essential? The one that follow the year or the one that follows the chapters?

Firstly, thanks for the opinions. Keep the opinion coming.

I hope it's never too late to start studying now???
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Is the topical version sold in bookstores currently ?

For Maths and Add Maths , buy the ones arranged according to the years .

For the other subjects , get the ones arranged according to chapters .

Some of the answers for Paper 2 ( Physics ) in the topic book are wrong . Be careful .
Biology is really reliable , as well as Bahasa Melayu .
Chemistry has the worst answers ! Really terrible . I who wrote the answers . You're better off checking answer schemes in trial papers to get an idea of how to answer essay / paper 3 questions .
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I asked my friends about their opinion too. Some said that past year that follow year will be better because u would not probably know the chapter they are from, better for some of them..

I think the tropical past year is not out yet.

Still deliberating~


Another thing is: my teacher told us that it will be better to buy the SBP past year trial paper book only by october, because it will probably include this year trial paper. Do you think SBP is essential?

Anyway, how's you all's study progress?
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I asked my friends about their opinion too. Some said that past year that follow year will be better because u would not probably know the chapter they are from, better for some of them..

I think the tropical past year is not out yet.

Still deliberating~


Another thing is: my teacher told us that it will be better to buy the SBP past year trial paper book only by october, because it will probably include this year trial paper. Do you think SBP is essential?

Anyway, how's you all's study progress?
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I asked my friends about their opinion too. Some said that past year that follow year will be better because u would not probably know the chapter they are from, better for some of them..

I think the tropical past year is not out yet.

Still deliberating~


Another thing is: my teacher told us that it will be better to buy the SBP past year trial paper book only by october, because it will probably include this year trial paper. Do you think SBP is essential?

Anyway, how's you all's study progress?
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QUOTE(lee.01 @ Mar 9 2013, 05:08 PM)
I asked my friends about their opinion too. Some said that past year that follow year will be better because u would not probably know the chapter they are from, better for some of them..

I think the tropical past year is not out yet.

Still deliberating~
Another thing is: my teacher told us that it will be better to buy the SBP past year trial paper book only by october, because it will probably include this year trial paper. Do you think SBP is essential?

Anyway, how's you all's study progress?
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For subjects like Biology , it's always a good idea to read the answers . You won't have time to do all the questions especially the essay questions . It's better to practice trial papers instead .

Buy the SBP Book with the 2012 paper . By October , Cerdik will not publish the books with the 2013 paper , they will publish them in 2014 .

Yes , SBP papers are a must !

Biology - Done with chapter 1 and 2 . Trying to start chap 3 and at the same time do form four revision .
Chem - Done with chapters 1 and 4 .
Physics - Done with chapters 1 and 2 .
Add Maths - Chapter 1 and 2
Maths - Teacher is at chapter 4 but I still haven't started my revision / practice yet .
Sejarah - It's always hard to say that I'm done with a chapter in Sejarah . Constant revision every single day .
BM - Done with konserto terakhir .
English - done with all the poems .
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QUOTE(lee.01 @ Mar 9 2013, 05:08 PM)
I asked my friends about their opinion too. Some said that past year that follow year will be better because u would not probably know the chapter they are from, better for some of them..

I think the tropical past year is not out yet.

Still deliberating~
Another thing is: my teacher told us that it will be better to buy the SBP past year trial paper book only by october, because it will probably include this year trial paper. Do you think SBP is essential?

Anyway, how's you all's study progress?
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DO NOT BUY THE BIOLOGY SBP ONE.

My teacher who is the head of marking scheme for biology spm in Selangor(i think, but he is one of the big people lah) doesn't recommend it since it contains some wrong answers. he said just stick to Past Years using topical one, and idk he recommends Pelangi/Sasbadi for exercise. and if you have the bio score module it will be better~

My progress

Physics - Waves, Electricity, Heat and Pressure
Biology - Chapter 1 form 5. Form 4 need to revise again hahaha but i guess by just doing exercises.
Sejarah - Form 4 chapter 4-6. Form 5 1-2
Chemistry - Form 4 need to revise~ but i love chem so yeah hehe <3 and form 5 1-2(Alcohol)
Mod Maths - just need to do exercises
Add Maths - need to strengthen my form 4 by exercises and form 5 1-3.
Agama - lol need to re-read i guess zzzz
BM- improving i guess, kept on doing karangan and hantar to my teacher
BI - gonna start happy.gif

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I've checked the SBP answers and I believe they are very reliable . Your teacher probably discourages you because SBP uses different terms than we do , like neural canal instead of vertebral foramen and vertebrarterial canal instead of transverse foramen . Sasbadi's newest topical book ( a book with all the chapters from form 4 till form 5 ) is good , the answers are good , but there's a lack of exercises for practical reports , and most of the questions are reproduced from trial papers .

I never trust Pelangi for exercises as they are not in line with the SPM format . Just check their answers for operational definition and you'll understand . This applies for other subjects as well . Longman's has out of the syllabus questions but the answers are generally reliable . Cerdik has good questions , answers are quite acceptable , it's written by a Guru Cemerlang . But the conclusion is , after all those exercises , it's best to jump back to the past year questions book .

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I've checked the SBP answers and I believe they are very reliable . Your teacher probably discourages you because SBP uses different terms than we do , like neural canal instead of vertebral foramen and vertebrarterial canal instead of transverse foramen . Sasbadi's newest topical book ( a book with all the chapters from form 4 till form 5 ) is good , the answers are good , but there's a lack of exercises for practical reports , and most of the questions are reproduced from trial papers .

I never trust Pelangi for exercises as they are not in line with the SPM format . Just check their answers for operational definition and you'll understand . This applies for other subjects as well . Longman's has out of the syllabus questions but the answers are generally reliable .  Cerdik has good questions , answers are quite acceptable , it's written by a Guru Cemerlang . But the conclusion is , after all those exercises , it's best to jump back to the past year questions book .
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Yeah I guess so haha it confuses people. I only have PHysics for the SBP one tongue.gif should I buy other types ? Although I don't plan to buy Biology SBP!!! But some answers he said salah in the book lol.

Never tried Pelangi. Longman super score IS VERY GOOD. It makes you understand further and lol I use physics and chemistry form 5 using Longman. Though Idk for add maths what book is GOOD ? exercises, and biology form 5? Usually i just spam the past year questions and they all would come out in a similar fashion kind of.
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for me pelangi is quite easy to reference since the question are clearly than others
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Yeah I guess so haha it confuses people. I only have PHysics for the SBP one tongue.gif should I buy other types ? Although I don't plan to buy Biology SBP!!! But some answers he said salah in the book lol.

Never tried Pelangi. Longman super score IS VERY GOOD. It makes you understand further and lol I use physics and chemistry form 5 using Longman. Though Idk for add maths what book is GOOD ? exercises, and biology form 5? Usually i just spam the past year questions and they all would come out in a similar fashion kind of.
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You should not trust a person fully , no matter how qualified that person is . Question . By questioning , you'll learn . Ask him what are the questions that have the wrong answers and then check them for yourself .

Longman Super Score for me is so-so ... Firstly , the questions are not according to SPM's standard . Too many unconventional questions .

For Physics , I would recommend the Effective Practice Physics written by Lee Cheng Xi ( form four ) . If you can get the form five one ( 2011 ) by the same author then it's better . Reason being , the questions are not too hard but not too simple , with clone questions and answers that are according to the SPM format .

For Add Maths , I don't use any books as there are tons of questions in the reference books , like SUCCESS . That , coupled with Trial / Past Year Questions are more than enough .

Chemistry , I do trial papers . I've finished all the Electrochemistry questions from all the states in 2012 , will go on to Acids and Bases and beyond .
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QUOTE(maximR @ Mar 10 2013, 04:47 PM)
You should not trust a person fully , no matter how qualified that person is . Question . By questioning , you'll learn . Ask him what are the questions that have the wrong answers and then check them for yourself .

Longman Super Score for me is so-so ... Firstly , the questions are not according to SPM's standard . Too many unconventional questions .

For Physics , I would recommend the Effective Practice Physics written by Lee Cheng Xi ( form four ) . If you can get the form five one ( 2011 ) by the same author then it's better . Reason being , the questions are not too hard but not too simple , with clone questions and answers that are according to the SPM format .

For Add Maths , I don't use any books as there are tons of questions in the reference books , like SUCCESS . That , coupled with Trial / Past Year Questions are more than enough .

Chemistry , I do trial papers . I've finished all the Electrochemistry questions from all the states in 2012 , will go on to Acids and Bases and beyond .
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Yay thank you for telling me biggrin.gif you seemed to be very hard working. Respect.

Oh, I bought the smart practice oxford for form 4 chemistry and blegh it sucked. I've been sticking the module by Wan Noor Afifah and I highly recommend you the SPOTLIGHT reference book for chemistry. Also longman for chemistry exercises. It's really good. Well my teacher forced all of us to use the SPOTLIGHT and Module and it works!

I've been trying to improvise my Physics and Add maths. My weak points. Hopefully, I'll get better. I've seen improvements on my Physics so yeah.

Also can I please have the link to past years trials examination papers ? All state ?

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Went to seminar skor A today(the one that was chosen by Astro Tutor TV) was great, the only downside is too short for each subject sad.gif

However, I learned some new techniques today.
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Mind to share some? notworthy.gif brows.gif
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yo..sorry for disturb f5 guys a while...im a f4 pure science student..i consider to take geo & EST in my next year spm but is this 2 subjects pupus already? or i still hv chance to choose it?

if only me in my school take geo and EST for spm that possible means only one calon(me) in the examination room with full of pengawas spm?
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QUOTE(nOobie97 @ Mar 11 2013, 05:40 PM)
yo..sorry for disturb f5 guys a while...im a f4 pure science student..i consider to take geo & EST in my next year spm but is this 2 subjects pupus already? or i still hv chance to choose it?

if only me in my school take geo and EST for spm that possible means only one calon(me) in the examination room with full of pengawas spm?
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Not sure about Geography

But I am pretty sure EST is still exist at least for 2013 smile.gif
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Mar 10 2013, 07:17 PM)
Mind to share some?  notworthy.gif  brows.gif
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Sure why not. biggrin.gif I'm gonna share on Sejarah.

This technique is getting the answer from the question itself. For example,

Apakah sumbangan tamadun Hwang-Ho?

From the name Hwang you can get the answer.

H for Hari which is linked to the Sistem Kalendear.

W for War which is The art of War by Sun Tzu

A for Anak Syurga which is part of the Politik

N for Nenek Moyang which is link to pemujaan roh nenek moyang

G for Gangsa, senjata dihasilkan daripada gangsa which is linked to the Ekonomi.

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if EST belum pupus,how are you study this subject? read and doing exercise in the est textbook? any reference book of it?
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if EST belum pupus,how are you study this subject? read and doing exercise in the est textbook? any reference book of it?
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If you want to take EST , make sure that you have an acceptable grasp of English .
GET AN EXPERIENCED teacher to guide you .
Please don't take this subject if you don't have a teacher coaching you .
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my english is ok..how about i ask my guru cemerlang BI to guide me about EST? And I consider to study myself for geo start from now f4..

can i take the spm subjects up to 13? (becuz i also minat dlm BK)
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my english is ok..how about i ask my guru cemerlang BI to guide me about EST? And I consider to study myself for geo start from now f4..

can i take the spm subjects up to 13? (becuz i also minat dlm BK)
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EST study is easy, but scoring A is difficult. I always see my students all subjects A+ then suddenly EST B and C. check with your pro english teacher how to score it lo.

Geo can study yourself. its quite easy.

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QUOTE(nOobie97 @ Mar 11 2013, 05:40 PM)
yo..sorry for disturb f5 guys a while...im a f4 pure science student..i consider to take geo & EST in my next year spm but is this 2 subjects pupus already? or i still hv chance to choose it?

if only me in my school take geo and EST for spm that possible means only one calon(me) in the examination room with full of pengawas spm?
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EST subject is pretty easy.I have seen the papers.

Here are some websites that may help you:

http://www.malaysia-students.com/2006/04/s...art-2-of-2.html
http://www.bumigemilang.com/?p=14962
http://www.malaysia-students.com/2012/03/s...technology.html
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Also guys,I am a Bio student and I wish to take ICT subject.Can or not?
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QUOTE(sporesan @ Mar 13 2013, 06:31 PM)
Questions are seemingly easy. Sample answers from textbooks seemed easy as well.
Everything about it seems easy.
It is the format that people been debating hugely on.
Speculations and conflicts between even experienced teachers do not help at all.

Outdated resources at the times when EST was ultimately easy cannot be used for the current difficult reformation.
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SPM EST questions:
1. E-mails are
A. express mails
B. electronic mails
C. electrical mails

2. www stands for
A. wide world web
B. world wide web
C. web for the wide world

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SPM EST questions:
1. E-mails are
A. express mails
B. electronic mails
C. electrical mails

2. www stands for
A. wide world web
B. world wide web
C. web for the wide world

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You sure or not?

Is it so simple

If Yes, tomorrow I will register this laugh.gif
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Mar 14 2013, 02:28 PM)
You sure or not?

Is it so simple

If Yes, tomorrow I will register this laugh.gif
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Go ask your teachers.

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Too bad I already have 10 subjects...don't feel like wanna take another tongue.gif
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Mar 14 2013, 02:58 PM)
Go ask your teachers.

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Too bad I already have 10 subjects...don't feel like wanna take another  tongue.gif
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Why it sounds like ICT to me
WWW then E-mail hmm.gif

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Go ask your teachers.

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Too bad I already have 10 subjects...don't feel like wanna take another  tongue.gif
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Please don't give students a false view . biggrin.gif

EST is not what it seems . Read the previous posts , and you'll know . It's harder to score than Biology -- school's results reflect this .
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QUOTE(maximR @ Mar 14 2013, 03:04 PM)
Please don't give students a false view .  biggrin.gif

EST is not what it seems . Read the previous posts , and you'll know . It's harder to score than Biology -- school's results reflect this .
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But but I see questions like so easy. Just need a great grasp on English am I right?
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But but I see questions like so easy. Just need a great grasp on English am I right?
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Doesn't seem that hard actually except for writing a report which require some research IMO

P1
http://pmr.penerangan.gov.my/images/storie...0Kertas%201.pdf

http://pmr.penerangan.gov.my/images/storie...rtas%20%202.pdf
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Mar 14 2013, 02:24 PM)
SPM EST questions:
1. E-mails are
A. express mails
B. electronic mails
C. electrical mails

2. www stands for
A. wide world web
B. world wide web
C. web for the wide world

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No. Just no. Dude, don't go bs on a subject that you know nothing about.
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Doesn't seem that hard actually except for writing a report which require some research IMO

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http://pmr.penerangan.gov.my/images/storie...0Kertas%201.pdf

http://pmr.penerangan.gov.my/images/storie...rtas%20%202.pdf
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That's what I'm trying to point out. blush.gif
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Mar 14 2013, 03:11 PM)
That's what I'm trying to point out.  blush.gif
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After reading carefully those objective questions, it's not simple sweat.gif

No direct answer, most of them require good Science knowledge

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After reading carefully those objective questions, it's not simple sweat.gif

No direct answer, most of them require good Science knowledge
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SPM 2006 Paper 2 Essay , Telescope .
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Hello. hi everyone.
Wow, all of you are so excited about SPM and the world after school.
Btw, I was a SPM candidate of 2007.
My batch was the 1st batch to learn Math and Science in English.
It was really cool to learn them in English. It really helps you in the university/college.
Actually, I'm just looking for anyone who is interested about the Score A programme, it is like online tuition.
I still have several portal with me to let go with lower price as I am in university now and my little bro also in college, so both of us not gonna use it anymore.
Plus, if you have any question about SPM or what, I would love to share some of my past experience.
Thank you.
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Hello. hi everyone.
Wow, all of you are so excited about SPM and the world after school.
Btw, I was a SPM candidate of 2007.
My batch was the 1st batch to learn Math and Science in English.
It was really cool to learn them in English. It really helps you in the university/college.
Actually, I'm just looking for anyone who is interested about the Score A programme, it is like online tuition.
I still have several portal with me to let go with lower price as I am in university now and my little bro also in college, so both of us not gonna use it anymore.
Plus, if you have any question about SPM or what, I would love to share some of my past experience.
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I'm very interested to hear on what you could offer me for the web app...
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Are Science and computing subjects still taught in English?

Still remember during my term everything was taught in English even though the teacher and lecturer sometimes taught in little bit of BM. biggrin.gif

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post Mar 17 2013, 03:19 AM

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my school had a trip to msu at shah alam.15 min brainwash program at the hall and an 1 1/2 hour tour of the medical tower.they showed us thier facilities there,and taught abit of biology using models of male/female reproductive organs.

We did a hands on laugh.gif,using the models.the best part was the disection hall,there was a plastered corpse(can see the muscles,veins,artrey).the guy died by a gunshot to the side of his head.but,the best was for the last,we saw 2 actual corpses in a very big horizontally oriantated metal box immeresed in some aweful smelling chemical liquid.

the first corpse was skinless and only his muscles were visible,the second corpse was with a face,by my friend's acount,he was a old chinese man. the "pembedah" only pulled the lid a fraction,thus hampering my movement as many people were crowding the corpse.i only got to see his legs shakehead.gif .


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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Mar 16 2013, 10:25 PM)
30 – 31 March  KUALA LUMPUR – Auditorium Muzium Negara....
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seriously ... many students still believe to get 'something special' from the public seminar.

all i want to say, the seminars should be free if it is done for public.

if you have a good teacher/ tutor, you will know the right techniques to answer the questions. there is not need to attend such seminars anymore.

of course, is up to students. if you have time and money, why not ?

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I'll be having my test this week .. For those of you who are currently facing the same situation , all the best !
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my add math alway fail , not over 10marks everytime cry.gif . any idea to pass??? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AmericanPig @ Mar 18 2013, 08:06 PM)
my add math alway fail , not over 10marks everytime cry.gif  . any idea to pass???  tongue.gif
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Firstly , do you even practise ? Or try to understand a certain chapter ?
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Add maths can self study?

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QUOTE(LawrenceLoL @ Mar 18 2013, 09:46 PM)
Add maths can self study?
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Basically, Add Maths is just doing practise and latihan. Better yet, spam those Past Years questions. It's always important to keep on practising with latihan. And if you're stuck... or don't understand... ALWAYS ASK YOUR FRIENDS WHO ARE GOOD IN ADD MATHS OR BETTER YET ASK YOUR TEACHER.
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I got 39 for my bio any help? sad.gif
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QUOTE(AmericanPig @ Mar 18 2013, 08:06 PM)
my add math alway fail , not over 10marks everytime cry.gif  . any idea to pass???  tongue.gif
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no input, no output. below than 10 marks is really a TERRIBLE result, you should be serious to your study.


QUOTE(LawrenceLoL @ Mar 18 2013, 09:46 PM)
Add maths can self study?
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yes

QUOTE(x3cream @ Mar 18 2013, 11:56 PM)
I got 39 for my bio any help? sad.gif
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concentrate to your study. be more serious in study, you will definitely get a pass.

are you playing handphone which teacher/ tutor are teaching ? hmm.gif

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