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 Proton Prevé V16, I'm proven. Et vous?

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sanadi
post Nov 22 2012, 10:21 PM

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Mine is CN: 575x. Do not have those problems. The bulging in power windows is just minor, I only realised it when I went looking for it.

If ppl do not want to buy Proton, that's OK. Better because there will be less ppl when you go to SC.

You would do me a great service by not buying Proton and causing me long queue when I go to SC.
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post Nov 22 2012, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Nov 22 2012, 10:21 PM)
If ppl do not want to buy Proton, that's OK. Better because there will be less ppl when you go to SC.

You would do me a great service by not buying Proton and causing me long queue when I go to SC.
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Lol .. that's so true. I see more & more Preves on the road these days. Slowly losing the exclusivity.
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post Nov 22 2012, 10:38 PM

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I came to realize that my radio is making some sort of signal weak sound. Anybody experiencing it?
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post Nov 22 2012, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 22 2012, 10:12 PM)

Added on November 22, 2012, 10:13 pm
It is an unresolved matter. Confirmed by Proton.
Their vendor is working this.
It happen on Saga BLM too.
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guess give another 1 year grace period... it should be design problem if it still unsolvable after 1 year grace period...
but still cant compare to BLM as the price differences almost double...
unless proton still using saga's power window design standard on Preve... sweat.gif

QUOTE(sanadi @ Nov 22 2012, 10:21 PM)
You would do me a great service by not buying Proton and causing me long queue when I go to SC.
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seem that you like to visit SC oftenly... sweat.gif
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post Nov 22 2012, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 22 2012, 10:45 PM)
guess give another 1 year grace period... it should be design problem if it still unsolvable after 1 year grace period...
but still cant compare to BLM as the price differences almost double...
unless proton still using saga's power window design standard on Preve... sweat.gif
seem that you like to visit SC oftenly... sweat.gif
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Only been to SC twice. 1000km service and 10,000km service.

Only went for oil change. But the waiting for my turn to service the car.... It'd be better if there are less ppl. I can have my car done in less than 1 hr.
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post Nov 22 2012, 10:58 PM

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As long as the power windows can wind up and down, what are you people complaining about? Got 10 years warranty...can always ask the SC to replace during the normal service if anything wrong..and you need to service your Proton at the authorize SC for the warranty to be valid whistling.gif

All of you have tried the 1st batch of power window in Waja like I did?
No need to wind up/down, I close the passenger door, the power window bracket broken and the window drop down...

Anyone tried to push the Exec CVT speed to the limit? How fast it can go?? cool2.gif



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post Nov 22 2012, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Nov 22 2012, 10:48 PM)
Only been to SC twice. 1000km service and 10,000km service.

Only went for oil change. But the waiting for my turn to service the car.... It'd be better if there are less ppl. I can have my car done in less than 1 hr.
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there have no way to speed up the service speed even though the number of preve reduced...
beside, out there still have other proton models too to jam up the queue... hence the worker's "tak-apa" mentality too...

as my experiences, i went to perodua SC for power window switch replacement as i confirmed the fault, but i asked to make appointment and may need 2 days arrangement even though swap the switch only... fed up, i went to other authorized SC immediately for replacement, just take about 20-30 minutes to settle whole things as lucky that no any car servicing that moment...

that the reasons i never went back to SC after the 10k km service and DIY service for engine oil replacement with my own efforts at my own home smile.gif


Added on November 22, 2012, 11:02 pm
QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 22 2012, 10:58 PM)
As long as the power windows can wind up and down, what are you people complaining about? Got 10 years warranty...can always ask the SC to replace during the normal service if anything wrong..and you need to service your Proton at the authorize SC for the warranty to be valid  whistling.gif
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wasn't the power window regulator issues like those old time such as failure motor, broken bracket, cable snapped, poor plastic roller, etc...

as checked, it is the design issues of door frame or power window regulator... it could be weak metal structure caused the bend...

seem the design of Preve PW = Saga PW... sigh... sad.gif
Preve PW
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17712648/Coil.jpg
Saga PW
http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00MBtaK...w-Regulator.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oXCyGODW9ME/TBCu...pw+reg+Rm32.JPG

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post Nov 22 2012, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 22 2012, 10:59 PM)

Added on November 22, 2012, 11:02 pm
wasn't the power window regulator issues like those old time such as failure motor, broken bracket, cable snapped, poor plastic roller, etc...

as checked, it is the design issues of door frame or power window regulator... it could be weak metal structure caused the bend...
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if that is the case, just wait for Proton to come up with the solution..in the meantime, there is nothing wrong with the operation of the power windows...if regulator issues, unless it causes fire , otherwise just let them have some time to rectify this problem..

Owners can always highlight the problem every time they service their car at the SC..besides, not only Proton have this door frame issue...

I would rather have Proton settle the more important issues like engine suddenly die off or the engine cannot off etc...

Even the Toyota also have Power windows switch problem ..took them few years to realize it..
Toyota Prius also have ECU bug back then, but I don't see the car owners in Malaysia complaining so much? It is a matter of life and death when the ECU goes crazy....


Added on November 22, 2012, 11:26 pm
QUOTE(JJTam @ Nov 22 2012, 10:38 PM)
I came to realize that my radio is making some sort of signal weak sound. Anybody experiencing it?
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signal weak in certain area or signal weak all the time...I experience it sometimes, somewhere near my house, the FM signal is slightly weak...

I would say the radio reception in Preve is average ..


Added on November 22, 2012, 11:29 pm
QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 22 2012, 10:59 PM)
seem the design of Preve PW = Saga PW... sigh... sad.gif
Preve PW = Saga PW
Preve Side Mirror = Persona side mirror
Preve door handle = Persona door handle?
Preve Exec CVT engine = Proton Saga 1.6 SE engine

... etc... laugh.gif


Added on November 22, 2012, 11:36 pm
QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 22 2012, 10:12 PM)

Added on November 22, 2012, 10:13 pm
It is an unresolved matter. Confirmed by Proton.
Their vendor is working this.
It happen on Saga BLM too.
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Bro Allen,

If the problem was from Saga BLM, it have been a few years already..still unresolve? It is either the vendor is a SH*THEAD or Proton just don't care about it..

How was your ride with the new ECU/TCU remap? brows.gif

This post has been edited by ryuken74: Nov 22 2012, 11:36 PM
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post Nov 22 2012, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 22 2012, 10:12 PM)
put paper to stop dashboard vibration      - I have no such issue, send your car into service centre to rectify it, perhaps poor fitting
cut carpet to pedal down more        - One of the 7-points free inspection and rectification by Proton, you can perform at any service centre
You don't have vibration when turbo kicks? Maybe i can ask next service.
and for 7 -points free inspection what should I ask SC to do? just say can help do free 7 points inspection?
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post Nov 22 2012, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 22 2012, 10:04 PM)
anyway, my info is from the owner owned preve 2 days only, chassis no close to 16k.
he very sure and confirm the bulging issues and here his reply "Can definitely feel Bengkak wan."
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23k d lor. blush.gif
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post Nov 22 2012, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 22 2012, 11:20 PM)

Added on November 22, 2012, 11:29 pm
Preve PW = Saga PW
Preve Side Mirror = Persona side mirror
Preve door handle = Persona door handle?
Preve Exec CVT engine = Proton Saga 1.6 SE engine

... etc...  laugh.gif
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Proton should use Persona PW design instead as the design complete different with saga PW and no complain from my bro-in-law (driving Persona)...
i guess 1 way ticket on Preve by Proton.. sad.gif

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post Nov 22 2012, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(rich8833 @ Nov 22 2012, 06:07 PM)
tak ada pop corn time pun..

come to think of it, we need to :-

-put paper to stop dashboard vibration
-tie fuel line hose to reduce mounting vibration
-put 3m tube to reduce sound noise
-put play doh to reduce wind sound
-cut carpet to pedal down more
-what else...

woit ! Proton designer tido kah?  Please read this thread to improve la..

some more got issue like.

-gluk gluk sound when travelling at 90kmph and above <-- Me only hear that when reaching > 120kmph
-windows klek klek sound going up and down
-over cranking sound when starting <-- Yess this happened to me quite often.. They issued the part replacement for my car but until now (3 weeks) no call from them to send my car to Manjung SC
-asap smell in cabin <-- Haha I always smell asap in the cabin when I push my car hard/over rev maybe
-air cond noisy sound when blowing <-- Not sure about this one but air cond smoke quite bugging me sometimes (I always on/off air cond because too cold tongue.gif)
-tank holder rusty
-seat berbulu
-seat noisy goyang goyang like want to cabut already
-wiper hitting frame when high speed
-windows panel bulging when roll up
-door welding spot rusty
-car jerking when slow down
-head light not balance
-steering shake when do hard braking
-boot auto open
-engine mati when reverse
-engine cannot start <-- sometimes happen but definately can start when I push the button for 2nd times.
-engine cannot mati <-- LOL this thing happened to me after three days I took my car. I asked Manjung SC head technician about this and he carefully explained to me this problem may occured when I bypass push start button procedure (3 steps actually). Not happening again after I follow these steps


I sincerely hope we don't hear any more complaints as above for new batch..or else how to go global..Almera also claimed to be global car..

Is there a almera thread in lyn?
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This thread is so fassst like this car.. Keepidap dudes!! notworthy.gif

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post Nov 22 2012, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(JJTam @ Nov 22 2012, 10:38 PM)
I came to realize that my radio is making some sort of signal weak sound. Anybody experiencing it?
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volume strong and weak?or radio not clear sound?

if volume,maybe ur HU setting,got some setting for speed volume...put it to 0..

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post Nov 23 2012, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(mozac @ Nov 22 2012, 11:49 PM)
This thread is so fassst like this car.. Keepidap dudes!!  notworthy.gif
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ya lor, i missed out

-the blinking HU
-Left folding mirror hitting the window glass
-engine bocor
-headlight goes dimmed at night
-cannot flash highlight at night
-back seat got noise
-back power socket loose
-etc..

maybe guys can add in, then we see what problem/s have been eliminated for the newer batch. I hope proton improve the quality for the newer batch.

New owners (silent readers) please give comment on your new ride. Do you have these problem? notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(rich8833 @ Nov 23 2012, 12:14 AM)
ya lor, i missed out

-the blinking HU
-Left folding mirror hitting the window glass
-engine bocor
-headlight goes dimmed at night
-cannot flash highlight at night
-back seat got noise
-back power socket loose
-etc..

maybe guys can add in, then we see what problem/s have been eliminated for the newer batch. I hope proton improve the quality for the newer batch.

New owners (silent readers) please give comment on your new ride. Do you have these problem?  notworthy.gif
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Even older batch chassis 12k does't have those problems at all.
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QUOTE(rich8833 @ Nov 23 2012, 12:14 AM)
ya lor, i missed out

-the blinking HU <--Yeah its weird.. But xpa la not bugging me at all
-Left folding mirror hitting the window glass
-engine bocor
-headlight goes dimmed at night
-cannot flash highlight at night
-back seat got noise <--Yup my passengers confirmed that when reaching moderate speed.. But nevermind that I ignored them because I always in the FRONT SEAT lol tongue.gif
-back power socket loose
-etc..

maybe guys can add in, then we see what problem/s have been eliminated for the newer batch. I hope proton improve the quality for the newer batch.

New owners (silent readers) please give comment on your new ride. Do you have these problem?  notworthy.gif
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Am I the only semi-auto/manual gear fan here? I just want to ask one question: Should there any 1st gear to 2nd gear switching laggg (using back pedal) if I remap to new ECU n TCU setting?

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hey guys,

ald send my loan for approval, but i still cant made up my mind which model to choose. exec mt or cvt. since i unable to test drive these 2 model unit is making much harder to choose.

kinda doubt the cvt gearbox will be underpower like saga flx version (loud engine rev and high rev) since im choosing non turbo.

any advise for those who bought exec cvt or manual owners? thx
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Good Morning Fellow Preveians! thumbup.gif

Happy Wubbing Friday! wub.gif

As promised yesterday, here's the pic of dashboard rattling DIY solution:

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Credit to: Bro Azaha Ismail. Forgot his LYN ID edy.. Hehe sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 23 2012, 07:37 AM)
Good Morning Fellow Preveians! thumbup.gif

Happy Wubbing Friday! wub.gif

As promised yesterday, here's the pic of dashboard rattling DIY solution:

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Credit to: Bro Azaha Ismail. Forgot his LYN ID edy.. Hehe sweat.gif
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Good morning bro..

lol...tissue paper?? can try a tiny piece of black leather, at least not so obvious looking, a piece of white thing sticking out of the dashboard..

I still remember the old days, proton wira door got squeaking noise, send for repair, they also put tissue paper, after awhile the tissue paper drop and the sound comes back tongue.gif


Added on November 23, 2012, 9:08 am
QUOTE(avaultz @ Nov 23 2012, 04:12 AM)
hey guys,

ald send my loan for approval, but i still cant made up my mind which model to choose. exec mt or cvt. since i unable to test drive these 2 model unit is making much harder to choose.

kinda doubt the cvt gearbox will be underpower like saga flx version (loud engine rev and high rev) since im choosing non turbo.

any advise for those who bought exec cvt or manual owners? thx
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I already mention in my previous post..please go for the CFE version if your budget allows it..CFE version have more rebates, the rebates for Exec CVT is given by deducting the SA commission.

IF you want the Exec CVT, loud engine during high rev is there, learn to control your foot, never exceed the 2k rpm during start moving from stop position..(not sure whether will have newer ECU this issue)
The EXec CVT is meant for normal driving..if you want a more powerful responsive car, go for the CFE...

But as long as it is moving smoothly, there is no sign lacking of power...I tapao another VIOS yesterday, during corner cut into my lane mad.gif , damn..I shift to S mode and overtake him at the same corner.. flex.gif

Bro Dhuang is using exec mt? maybe he can give more info on the exec mt?



Another issue is the Bluetooth Audio sound drop..very often happen..cannot enjoy my song..
>> Got member told me it is normal, even for Myvi also happen. Is it? base on my experience working in the audio industry, this is not normal!



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hi all. If u r servicing ur preve, ask for the product improvement check points. Normally all check points only available to certain sc(branch) which provides ecu n tcu update.

Iafm+ version of preve n flx also get ecu/tcu update. But i heard certain sc wont do it unless u ask for it. It supposed to be automatically done when u service ur car.Please report if u encounter that to icare.

About the power windows, prtn already acknowledge that. Its the buldging issue, not the power windows not working issue.

I think the problem lies on the same mould@design on the door side. Since it doesnt happen to other door except driver's side, i think think they r trying their best to rectify that, unless they change the inside door panel which causing the probs. Now what i see is they r trying to change the regulator 1st. If change the inner door panel, it involves another set of test especially side impact crash test coz redesigning inner frame involve crash worthiness. During prototype, they didnt encounter that. Seems the tolerance is big when mass production. I really hope they will continue doing the improvement until solve it. On blm, it doesnt cause the windows problem even it does buldge as reported by owners. 10 years warranty come with cost to prtn, i dont think prtn is happily to make it unsolve for years n keep changing regulators for free untill 10 years. I believe they will fork out permanent solution.

On dash vibration, i think 2 parts diy which u can check.

1stly, when the dash vibrate, try to hold ur rear mirror to see whether its coming out from the mirror coz there is a case metal vibration between the rear mirror with front glass. If that the case, just refit@tighten it within the slot@ u can ask them to do it during ur service if that part is the cause.

2ndly, if the 1st one dont solve the probs, check underneath the steering where the odb connector been securely in place(there is a proper slot for it), in case when they doing any diagnostic@reflash, the techie forgot to put it back properly in the slot. Yup, i really hate that part coz they shud done it properly.

If not solve,so, many things need to check whether dash fittings@aircond panel fitting, n shud be check by them coz if doing it diy, break something, warraty is void.

Sorry cant help much.

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