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 Proton PrevĂ© V16, I'm proven. Et vous?

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post Nov 14 2012, 09:41 AM

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interested on Preve CFE too as going for bigger car for family usage, may end up with end of this year / early or end of next year...
any common issues from Preve from current batch?

QUOTE(winazza @ Nov 13 2012, 05:22 PM)
Hi all..i met 1 proton dealer, he offered me RM5k discount for preve premium. With downpayment RM7,390-RM5,000=RM2,390 not include discount for NCD, is it worth?
Loan RM65,600 with 2.68%, 9 years...
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bro... can PM me the dealer contact and location?
but what means is no discount for NCD? thought our NCD are transferable?
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post Nov 14 2012, 04:14 PM

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hi guys, is this power window issues solved on current batch?

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post Nov 19 2012, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(excelint @ Nov 19 2012, 05:23 AM)
could anyone introduce me a good sale assistance? good price?
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you can easily search LYN proton dealer here... discount up to Rm5k for CFE...
http://forum.lowyat.net/AutomotiveGarage

anyway, wondering preve have cabin filter for air con?
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post Nov 19 2012, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(excelint @ Nov 19 2012, 10:06 AM)
i attached picture here.
most probably claim the lorry insurance (last one that bang).
but since not all cars reported police yet, so no saman issue yet, so still not sure.
today i EL at home, need to take extra rest...  rclxub.gif
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doesn't look serious as car chassis and engine bay no effected... still can repair it no doubt with some part replacement...

anyway, any cabin filter for preve?
bcos hate to heard the cooling coil clogged due to dust, sand, leaves, insects, etc... doh.gif
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post Nov 19 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 19 2012, 11:20 AM)
mesti ade cabin filter ma smile.gif belakang glove box
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 19 2012, 11:23 AM)
Not necessarily. Both Saga and Persona has no paper cabin filter, only the mesh pollen filter.
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as long as can isolate debris away fr cooling coil then should be fine...
because still some of the car doesn't fit with it yet... even though fit with filter but doesn't come with filter... doh.gif
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post Nov 20 2012, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(mandeep @ Nov 19 2012, 11:08 PM)
Dear All,

After much research and going through blogs and comments about cars. I have decided to invest in Preve. But the reason i am asking for your assistance in to recommend me which Preve to buy ? Exec ? or Premium ?

I am looking for car that can give me good FC, does not require much maintenance and have a good resale value ( for Preve we still need to see the resale value). I will be driving mostly within Selangor.

So please give your suggestion along with reasons to go for premium or exec ? And pass me contact of any Sales Agent who can give me good deal.
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i would suggest for preve CFE even though i'm manual freak...

i went to nissan show room ytday night have a look for almera... the car built quality does impress me, no doubt but seem the engine may difficult to maintain as air intake hose going thru the top of engine and the car chassis design similiar with myvi (torsion beam and 1000kg kerb weight only) which only suitable for casual / city driving as my opinion, preve is much better and heavier for high speed... hence almera the only 4AT which lack of power, may end up 5MT instead... compare almera 5MT RM67k (kosong car) and preve 7AT RM73k (full features), preferably go for preve instead... hence almera look a bit cramp for me too as i got long leg and doesnt comfortable for me, also look "emptiness" due to lack of features...

but preve's FC (turbo tuned engine) and maintenance (you know i know) are questionable... maintenance i have no issues as i like to DIY to solve any small matters by myself... resale value are difficult to judge, AMO just 10% differences compare good & bad resale value... but if planned to drive it more than 10 years, no need to consider on resale value at all, just look on the year end discount (to clear off this year car), spare part availability and spare part pricing will do, i guess preve still the winner here...i afraid almera will be another Vios that too much of batches and models released and certain spare parts only for certain batches only (if no mistaken), even have the tuned IMPUL accessories from factory for almera too, total RM88k... sweat.gif but so far seldom happened to proton and new spare part can use on older batches too as proton wont change the moulding too much and bulk production to reduce the manufacture cost...

but most probably i will get preve end of next year instead as preferably to wait for the rectification of common issues... hate to visit SC oftenly with new car... doh.gif
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post Nov 20 2012, 03:54 PM

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hi guys, wondering anyone got proton car loan which is flexi type?
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post Nov 20 2012, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(deity01 @ Nov 20 2012, 03:59 PM)
like today u happy u pay 1k...u not happy u pay 500?
u soong u settle in 1 shot...u beh soong u go for payment holiday?
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the wasn't the point, either song or beh song...
the key of flexi car loan is the interest are much lower compare to fixed car loan...
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post Nov 20 2012, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(rich8833 @ Nov 20 2012, 04:48 PM)
But, I think Almera sales pickup is better than our Preve.

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no doubt, all my colleague thumb up Almera just now...
asked me to say NO to preve... sweat.gif

QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 20 2012, 04:53 PM)
Jerie mouse == V12Kompressor? Wait I korek korek from him..but i need to ask the Proton stokis how much first  hmm.gif


Added on November 20, 2012, 4:55 pm
there is no flexi car loan...only have FML (Father Mother Loan - 0%)  tongue.gif ..sorry..just joking..
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as checked and double confirmed with my colleague... he recalled the SA's iPad calculator again...
9 years total interest RM7xxx; 5 years total interest RM3xxx

anyway, the price is based on Almera, assumed is the low spec RM67k...
the interest should higher than the figure as above if fixed car loan...
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post Nov 20 2012, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Nov 20 2012, 06:32 PM)
did ur friend ask NO to VIOS too??? since almera and VIOS are same B segment... i cant brain why he as say no to Preve only??
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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 20 2012, 06:34 PM)
Because it is a PROTON. Vios is a TOYOTA 5 star rating.
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Nov 20 2012, 06:39 PM)
but VIOS obviously ALmera's direct competitor... both Jepun celup ASEAN made.. both old tech gadgets.. both old tech 4AT..  biggrin.gif  but why only preve he say NO??
cant brain
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my 3 colleague driving honda, toyota and hyundai... so guess it why they say so...

QUOTE(excelint @ Nov 20 2012, 08:02 PM)
ok, i have been following this preve thread a few days.

in term of performance and spec, i have no doubt preve win hand down when comparing to vios, almera. proton did very impressive in this preve. nothing to deny.

however, i found the quality is still a problem to Proton.

even though it might be just some small issues, but it will keep giving me headache to go SC, complain, follow up and etc..

well, i am quite busy with my work, these small issues is going to kill me.

could i conclude that, if i want a peace of mind, i should say No, and avoid Preve?

hope preve owner could give me neutral comment on my above statement.


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i did a visit to Nissan and Proton to test drive with Almera and Preve...

Almera:
no doubt about the engine performance 1.5cc, maybe bcos of light kerb weight 1000kg, floor the pedal and my wife can feel the pressure as she said she "glued" on the back seat while i floor pedal... cabin size, just right enough for me and slightly bigger than honda city... finish quality mo doubt, still better than Preve... Steering wheel lighter than Preve... rear seat seem have longer leg room as feel by my wife compare to Preve... also have informative meter like Preve, such as average fuel consumption, KM to empty tank, etc... but lack of features even though full spec version and chassis still with rear torsion beam and required to fork out another RM3000-RM6000 for proper upgrade with recommended accessories and RM1500 (offering 50% off from Rm3000) for IMPUL body kit only ... but sad only that 1 air bag for low spec and my wife complain about it...

Preve:
I tested the first batch, the door panel will "pregnant" after the window fully up... i told to SA that i dont want waist my time to solve the common issues but SA claimed confidently that Proton solved the power window issues and remap ECU on the second batch which is started manufactured from 10th of November onwards... rear bonnet cabin seem a little bit smaller as the "wide ass" shorter than almera... the cabin floor surface seem a bit higher than almera, end up the rear passenger's leg have to lift higher... but of cos Preve are wider than Almera as Preve can sit 3 person easily at rear seat... can feel Preve have much roomy at front seat as the dashboard have the distance betweem driver and passenger but Almera are much closer... features wise, no doubt Preve win with both hands up, henve can override with the gearing by using paddle shift even though under full auto mode (can upshift / downshift manually under D mode)... but sad that no leather seat, have to settle it by myself...

Conclusion:
Comparing between Almera basic auto spec with all the recommended upgrade RM70k + RM6k + RM1.5k and Preve CFE with rich features RM68k... still i think will go for Preve instead... hope Proton wont disappointing me as i highlighted the power window issues to SA repeat and repeat... laugh.gif
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post Nov 20 2012, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(yoongzhen.lee @ Nov 20 2012, 11:11 PM)
Before it's too late, can any1 advices on the diff between exe n premium version (performance wise mainly the fc rather than those fancy item like auto sensor , push start button , spoiler etc ). FYI , i seldom out for long journey , mainly the car is use in town area of which always get trap in traffic congestion , slow down by traffic lights etc ... Your advices are much appreciated
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i suggest go with CFE instead...
otherwise i will go for manual if planned for CPS as CPS itself still lack of power with auto...

i planned for CFE but driving around Klang Valley too as i like to play with paddle shift too... smile.gif
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post Nov 20 2012, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(wongth7 @ Nov 20 2012, 11:36 PM)
seriously..what's the big fuss about having leather seat..few days ago, my neighbour asked me what seat material is preve using, i told him fabric..and he pointed his merc leather seat and told me it's cracking..

yea..leather seat is classy..but do you think its easy to maintain?  rolleyes.gif

and not to bad-mouth almera, but when i sit in it, the dashboard feels so plasticky..and the interior is nothing to shout about..only the exterior probably look nicer than dugong vios
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doubt is the weather issues...

i used with PU leather on my current myvi without any maintenance, no cracks or whatever for 6 years...
i guess i will wrap a cheap PU leather as well as it consider as part of "wear and tear" tongue.gif
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post Nov 21 2012, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(winazza @ Nov 21 2012, 01:23 AM)
Yeah..it is true...i got 5k discount for premium..
Any forumer here met the dealer and got the same discount as me?
More than 10 person pmed me...any good news?
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I met the dealer... but one of LYN forumer from same branch) say can get RM5500...

confirmed RM5000.00 discount AT LEAST for preve CFE... end up preve CFE about RM68k only...
but the SA keep pushing me to achieve his sales target... my decision is about 7 years commitment... sweat.gif
so compare to "empty" almera and "full" preve with same price... what you think? tongue.gif

anyway, as confirmed the current preve is 2nd batch which solved the common issues...

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Nov 21 2012, 11:52 AM)
yes,,Most of the Proton SC dun have the 5w30..  nod.gif
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can go for Eneos 5-30? it selling RM105 at some spare part shop...
i guess it should better than Petronas semi sync if the Eneos's oil groups higher than Petronas...
bcos no matter mineral, semi syc or fully syc category, there have have the oil groups for different category...
we even can get fully syc around RM120-RM150 easily, but oil groups are questionable...

QUOTE(stargate8 @ Nov 21 2012, 11:53 AM)
i read mat79 post earlier. yeah due to cost cutting they take out leather seats.

perhaps once warranty period over, will get synthetic leather to have that leather feel, then after 7yrs, buy new car lor.

so proton opt for fabric seats claim to be water repellent, and better quality, not true lor, somemore got sound from the backrest.
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i considering to wrap a leather seat instead... maybe go for PU leather instead for better protection...
anyone wrapped the preve seat yet so far?
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Nov 21 2012, 01:21 PM)
U can warp its with leather, just make sure the 3rd party shops know how to handle the side airbags stiching.
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what means side airbag stitching?
thought the side air bag from the seat belt height adjuster of the pillar?
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QUOTE(G K Lai @ Nov 21 2012, 02:08 PM)
Brother Dhuang, you drive so fast, not afraid of saman?  shocking.gif
Have any link to English explanation for this product? Sorry~  blush.gif
EDIT: Opps! Found it, thanks anyway!  icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on November 21, 2012, 2:09 pm
Side air bags are inside the front seat, shoulder area.  smile.gif
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side air bag inside the front seat?
doubt can do the wrapping as the fabric must fragile enough to break... sad.gif
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QUOTE(BartS @ Nov 21 2012, 03:42 PM)
I'm a bit confused by the power window recall. When I read the bulletin, it says .. "Symptom - 1. Possible malfunction Front LH, Rear LH, Rear RH power window assembly."

By my understanding, 'possible' doesn't make it a mandatory recall. So, if it ain't broken, why fix it? Furthermore, their suggested recourse/fix is to simply apply grease to the coil spring to eliminate/diminish power window 'klak klak' noise during operation caused by the rubbing of the coil spring. No mention of replacing the motor unit. Also no mention of the driver's door bulging outwards.
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it could be means the mixture of 1st and 2nd batch of Preve...
bcos as info from SA, all the power window issues solved on 2nd batch which manufactured 10th Nov onwards...

as statement above, they may afraid the 2nd batch owner thought it is compulsory to change since it solved... that why the stated "Possible"

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Nov 21 2012, 03:53 PM)
well leather seat can have an opening on the side, pls think creatively

no biggie with wrapping, just that may have to dismantle the seat and wrap it with leather.
the installer must carefully unplug the cable and plug it back...
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actually i thinking wrap without remove the original fabric, just simply "plug and play" with leather cover... is it possible?

QUOTE(edwans @ Nov 21 2012, 03:55 PM)
yea la, like it goes dim very briefly. like kelip-kelip a bit. my mom asked me "did u flash the car in front? why?" -.-"

should it do that though? maybe i should get it fixed at the next service.
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look like the 6:40?

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Nov 21 2012, 04:05 PM)
as long as aftermarket got the product, but usually the cover will "run off" after a while.

long term wise, have to dismantle, wrap it stitch it, cucuk sini cucuk sana, ta da... nice leather seat.
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seem i guess have to stick to fabric seat and do replacement maybe every 5 years instead...

QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 21 2012, 04:07 PM)
Haha.. LOL..

Of course it shouldn't. But u can always try ask the SC next time whether they are able to adjust that.
IMHO If the PnP one got side explode-able stitch sure, why not.
Uiks, thought the c pillar wind noise is a known issue and they have instructed SC to replace the rubber strip edy? blink.gif
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maybe i look for "weak" seat cover instead... dont go for full leather as may harder to break it even though with "weak" stitching...
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 21 2012, 04:12 PM)
when i start get my car headlamp also got dimming abit..less that 1 sec dimming...due to compressor kick in...complaint sc they say normal blink.gif ,preve compressor n kipas banyak kuat dan besar!!

but now after 6 month i drive,the dimming macam sudah takde...and i no install any VS or grounding
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anyone here using VS on preve?

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