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 Proton Prevé V16, I'm proven. Et vous?

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arthur88
post Nov 23 2012, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 23 2012, 11:32 AM)
Just simply put your arm on the hand rest (door panel) and roll up...
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thank you gkl83....i was searching back at prevoc fb but cannot find the video....yes, this is the "pregnant" power windows...

and also u can hear the krek x3 sound...

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post Nov 23 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 23 2012, 11:33 AM)
thank you gkl83....i was searching back at prevoc fb but cannot find the video....yes, this is the "pregnant" power windows...
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anyway, just my personal preferences as i dont have issues with my myvi's PW as used different design in between...
i hoping is "upgrade" on my coming new car...

anyway, no offenses here...

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post Nov 23 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 23 2012, 11:30 AM)
no pictures...just video... tongue.gif  drool.gif
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Even better thumbup.gif

QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 23 2012, 11:32 AM)

Just simply put your arm on the hand rest (door panel) and roll up...
should be PW design problem as avanza have the same design too...
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Thanks for the video. Actually I saw the video before, never go check my PW. Is this "pregnant" thing cause the "gluk" x3 sound??
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post Nov 23 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 23 2012, 11:33 AM)
thank you gkl83....i was searching back at prevoc fb but cannot find the video....yes, this is the "pregnant" power windows...

and also u can hear the krek x3 sound...
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I drove a Kelisa and also experience pregnant power window but have been using the power window for 10 years already. Only problem faced is the spoilt button.
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post Nov 23 2012, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 23 2012, 11:36 AM)
Thanks for the video. Actually I saw the video before, never go check my PW. Is this "pregnant" thing cause the "gluk" x3 sound??
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Bulging Outwards is PW and door frame design problem... afraid it can't be solve, only minimize...

glukX3 sound should be the coil spring issues... can be solve for short term but readjust and greasing...

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post Nov 23 2012, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 23 2012, 11:36 AM)
Even better  thumbup.gif
Thanks for the video. Actually I saw the video before, never go check my PW. Is this "pregnant" thing cause the "gluk" x3 sound??
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Pregnant n gluk gluk sound, two different issues.
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post Nov 23 2012, 11:55 AM

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about the check points n tcu@ecu update. Dont waste ur time by test ur luck going to sc. Better call the respective sc whether they provide the service@not. If provide, then place ur booking.

Yup, really sorry to hear the windows buldging probs. But they r doing the fixing n will be cntinue until solve coz i believe, prtn dont want to put more cost by entertaining 10 years warranty. Same As for ecu@tcu, it takes times coz need to validate n test. So goes the buldging probs. In my humble opinion,Prtn also worries if the buldging problem can cause safety issue@deteriorate the life of pwrwindows coz they have given 10 years warranty. Do they want to bear the cost for 10 years? i dont think so. Therefore i believe they will work out solution.

Thats my pov coz to bear cost for 10 years, isnt profitable as business entity.
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how come door panel buldging problem is being called pregnant now? laugh.gif

so I concluded that the Preve door become pregnant after 'PW' finish going up
and the gluk gluk sound is during 'PW' going up/down..

laugh.gif

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post Nov 23 2012, 12:01 PM

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as for mode, its already has normal n sport mode by toggling the gear lever, d for normal, s for sport mode. Maybe in the future, proton can simplify it by using button@swithces, not tooggling with the lever. A switch to control between normal, sport n sat. For the lever, just d mode n manual selection.

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Nov 23 2012, 11:55 AM)
about the check points n tcu@ecu update. Dont waste ur time by test ur luck going to sc. Better call the respective sc whether they provide the service@not. If provide, then place ur booking.

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Bro mat79

Proton should at least inform the owners which SC provides tcu@ecu updates. It is their product defects and should have taken the initiative to inform the people on their official websites or whatsoever. Not by word of mouth/public forum or let the owners to find which SC provides such services.

just my 2 cents..

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post Nov 23 2012, 12:05 PM

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Ryuken74, this is improvement. Not defect.

Not all service centre can perform the mapping. Mainly of manpower issue. We can't afford our cars stranded there if suddenly they can't flash properly?

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 23 2012, 12:05 PM)
Ryuken74, this is improvement. Not defect
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ya, that's what they say ..not defect, improvement...they use the word very carefully.. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 23 2012, 12:05 PM)
Not all service centre can perform the mapping. Mainly of manpower issue. We can't afford our cars stranded there if suddenly they can't flash properly?
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this I understand, so they should list out the SC that can do the mapping, not by owners searching here and there, asking here and there for the SC near their place that can do the mapping..

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post Nov 23 2012, 12:14 PM

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I dont care much on pregnant PW or gluk gluk gluk sound. But my PW always stuck when wind up. The window glass will pull the outer rubber going into the window track make it stuck. So imagine when going through toll plaza during heavy rain. mad.gif
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QUOTE(buana345 @ Nov 23 2012, 12:14 PM)
I dont care much on pregnant PW or gluk gluk gluk sound. But my PW always stuck when wind up. The window glass will pull the outer rubber going into the window track make it stuck. So imagine when going through toll plaza during heavy rain. mad.gif
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then you have no time to waste, get to your nearest SC and have them rectify the problem...but wait, you need to call the SC first, confirm they can get the parts to replace or not when you reach there....temporary don't use the PW..use SMartTag at the toll plaza..

or the conventional way, buka pintu (open door).. cool2.gif

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QUOTE(buana345 @ Nov 23 2012, 12:14 PM)
I dont care much on pregnant PW or gluk gluk gluk sound. But my PW always stuck when wind up. The window glass will pull the outer rubber going into the window track make it stuck. So imagine when going through toll plaza during heavy rain. mad.gif
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I used to have the same trouble. Then I used silicon lube on the rubber linings and the problem went away. Simple fix

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post Nov 23 2012, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 23 2012, 12:01 PM)
Bro mat79

Proton should at least inform the owners which SC provides tcu@ecu updates. It is their product defects and should have taken the initiative to inform the people on their official websites or whatsoever. Not by word of mouth/public forum or let the owners to find which SC provides such services.

just my 2 cents..
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its product improvements. As i mentioned many times, normally branch prtn@eon sc provide the service, so, just search for that, not dealers.

And actually when u service ur car, they shud do it automatically if u r the effected batch, n for defect, they do send out mail@call the owner for the matter such as vvt sprocket previously, n if u didnt get the news, when u send in for service, they will do it automatically for u.

Improvement such tcu@ecu update, isnt defect. It just happen coz vastly complain on sluggishness, not safety issue@defect. The same things happen to any auto manufacturer. All depend on severity of the issue. If safety issue, they will do it in mass communication. Like what happened to all auto nowadays, recalling is because safety issue, which can harm users.
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I saw in fb prevoc someone use a paper between dashboard and pillar to solve rattling issue. But mine is just vibration due to turbo kicks in. Need to find out where caused that.

@mat79,
I thought proton recall power windows to solve the kak kak or whatever sound is that? After a few weeks i changed regulator for driver side and motor for other 3, that stupid sound came back again. I don't think the new motor and regulator fix anything?
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post Nov 23 2012, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Nov 23 2012, 01:05 PM)
its product improvements. As i mentioned many times, normally branch prtn@eon sc provide the service, so, just search for that, not dealers.

And actually when u service ur car, they shud do it automatically if u r the effected batch, n for defect, they do send out mail@call the owner for the matter such as vvt sprocket previously, n if u didnt get the news, when u send in for service, they will do it automatically for u.

Improvement such tcu@ecu update, isnt defect. It just happen coz vastly complain on sluggishness, not safety issue@defect. The same things happen to any auto manufacturer. All depend on severity of the issue. If safety issue, they will do it in mass communication. Like what happened to all auto nowadays, recalling is because safety issue, which can harm users.
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Bro mat79, understand that ecu/tcu update is improvement. How abt power window regulator? Can I said this is due to defect?

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QUOTE(cwk150 @ Nov 23 2012, 02:23 PM)
Bro mat79, understand that ecu/tcu update is improvement. How abt power window regulator? Can I said this is due to defect?
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How manufacturer deal with defect?
When they receive complains from public, then they will update to it accordingly.
So if u have problems, it may not have raised by many people, do lodge a complain.
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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 23 2012, 12:11 PM)
ya, that's what they say ..not defect, improvement...they use the word very carefully..   laugh.gif


Added on November 23, 2012, 12:13 pm
this I understand, so they should list out the SC that can do the mapping, not by owners searching here and there, asking here and there for the SC near their place that can do the mapping..
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Some ppl happy with current setup.. So why they need to remap??

And fyi.. There is a list of 90 sc which can do remap.. Pls read more n get info more b4 u make any comment.. Malu laa hehe

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