WELCOME TO OUR PhilipS HP890 and SHP895 and SBC HP1000 clubz^^


share ur review regarding this headphone




HP890

http://price.zol.com.cn/article/2005/0323/158565.shtml



SHP895


http://sound.zol.com.cn/23/237231.html




SBC HP1000


http://lcd.zol.com.cn/2005/0630/182613.shtml

This post has been edited by yeah_guyz: Aug 27 2006, 02:02 AM

PHILIPS



HP890
PcWork
Evogenix
Davis
allenultra
Kabadi84
chocobee_2707
mystvearn


SHP895
Zephyr_Mage
nameless
Tachikoma
LittleLinnet
ColeXE
deadgriever
ANGELING
POYOZER
kyLL
emmeir
amdx
sranua
r4ydc24
Valer
Andy0625
Renovatio
mercury
scotty
Akabane@DrJackel
neuvas
marquis
name
david890701
TomatomanzSeedlezz
BratPAQ
tchiaming
rhoyo
Baron_Bleakstare
iori


SBC HP1000
Davis
Shogun
LittleGhost
accs_centre
deadgriever
supazta
me lo
aichiban
TeOtq

This post has been edited by yeah_guyz: Sep 21 2007, 10:31 PM

I own an SHP895 and I love it..
But I wanna ask, is there anyway I can wash the earpads they're getting a bit smelly LOL..

This post has been edited by Zephyr_Mage: Jan 25 2006, 06:01 PM

wahlao, then HP890 owner cannot join here lah?
=(
i got 2 X hp890, 1 X hp800. can join?

Wah...he got HP2580...one class above liao...

strictly no other model

haha
jz kidding
of coz u can as long is oso philips

it can take off meh?

i dun hv it

but soon

add anather model lo... hp890... the performance almost da same as the hp895

philips hp890 user here

Evogenix

I also wonder whether the earpads can be take off for washing too
It sure will get smelly, unless you use it in air cond room all the time.

Nameless -Another HP895 owner here!

yes!sir

Former SHP895 owner xD

Kinda regretted selling it after I got the AD823, it actually separated the voices in choir recordings better than the Aego 2 >.> Even bigger pity was the fact that I didn't test it with my Super DAC... sigh.

This post has been edited by Tachikoma: Jan 25 2006, 08:50 PM

nvr mind as long as u owed it previously
go to grab 1 more lo

Naw, not going to happen. THAT WAS MY FIRST AND LAST SHP-895

come and share ur feel to those headphone

y u love her?

review loooooo

You may change your title to Philips headphone, earphone or small speakers fans club .

Currently I am owning...

HN060
HP890
HP1000

Philips HP1000 user here.

I have to say, I was extremely happy with the cans when I bought them back in... 2004 I think. Or it could be 2005. Was upgrading from my Sennheiser HD497. More comfy, soundstage seemed wider, more instrumental details and nuances, more musical, more bass extension... Ah... that was the love of my life...

UNTIL I WAS POISONED BY THE HD600

Now I find that it is slightly harsh and bright, the bass extension is fake, or what some others would call the bass hump, and didn't have enough instrumental detail, didn't have enough musicality... of course, what am I comparing... they are headphones of totally different classes...

So yes. Today I still own my HP1000. And the use of the PAV2 has greatly improved the sound of the HP1000, improving the instrument separation, soundstaging, and revealing even more inner details. And giving the bass more extension, sometimes to the extent of faking it, but I can live with it. Hey, I spent only RM400, can't expect heaven in headphile rite?

Gosh what am I typing? Anyway that's the report of a HP1000 user here.

Lol, the PA2V2 isn't really the definitive best of headphone amps >_> Try getting a govibe V4 with the AD8397 opamp or something, whatever amp head-fi is hyping now

any 1 diy the headphone cable a?

me me, diy my one of HP890 cable.. =P
with some OFC, but result quite similar, only better in mids, then less bass... hm...
still love the bass of LC-OFC.
heehehehe

an interconnect or something else?

the cable connect to the headphone and source lo
since the design can jz plug in with mini jack

a 2.5mm minijack, with a unique locking mechanism. the other end is terminated with the normal 3.5mm minijack.
that 2.5mm minijack will be hard to DIY since it needs a unique lock.

Hahaha... I'm gonna bypass thaet whole process and get a AKG K701 and ask my friend to DIY me an M3 amp. Still thinking about which op-amps to pick tho.

em if we use bek the 2.5mm minijack, dunno can onot leh

after changing the cable, is it really achieve a very good quality sound?
hw much it cost?

the AD8065 got my vote. or you could try OPA627(pricey) or the OPA227 (cheap). the AD8065 has the best price/performance ratio IMO.

another thing, why not wait for the next gathering and see if a tube amp could scale higher than a discreet solid state amp. or how well a full OTL tube amp compares to a hybrid implementation (SOHA).
i bet the next gathering will have more contenders than the previous.

i have no idea. but the cable is already using a Linear Oxygen Free Copper, good enough if you ask me. unless you replace it with silver based cables, then it's a waste of time/money.

SHP-895 owner here

SHP-840 owner here, can join ahh? This is also the XXL Clarity what...

BTW, i'm looking forward to build a Headphone amp the size of the 5.25" bay on a PC, utilising the PSU, with the aid of a separate DC/DC converter circuitry to avoid noise and thingy, anybody interested in the idea and have do such a thing before? No resources on such gi-normous Headphone Amp Project can be found, except for the trusty CMOY... perhaps just dump a small CMOY into a big casing?

welcome

though i do think that this should be asked in the DIY amp thread since i've been warned by the thread starter once for not sticking to the topic and leading the discussion astray, i do think i should in someway reply since it's been asked.

PC uses a switching power supply which is in a way bad to audio usage since the power supplied isn't constant. you could however get away with a large capacitance caps and use a CRC filter to smooth it out. but still, switching power supply isn't always preffered especially in headphone amp where power supply quality has a large effect on the sound quality. most people tend to avoid using switching power supply especially from the PC since that's not the best place to get a good quality power.

and you might wanna take into consideration the RF interference from the many components in the case, which could possibly get into the audio path. but if you're still interested to try it out, a PIMETA or an M3 in an aluminium case with proper grounding might help in reducing the interference.

still, i do think that you should at least filter about 5V from the 12V rail to get acceptable quality power, which gives you something more or less 7V to run the amp from. you could add a low dropout voltage regulator after that to stabilize the power. but with 6V-7V, you'd have to cancel out high voltage Opamps, mainly the OPA627, AD8066, AD8065, AD843, AD8610 and AD8620 since those requires higher voltage to work well. that will leave you with the normal quality/stock choices like the OPA2227, OPA2134, OPA2132, AD823 and something like the TL072, NE5532, NJM4556, NJM4558 and the rest of the jellybean chips.

oh, i forgot.. the M3 tend to get hot after a while so that might also be taken into your consideration. the discreet MOSFET output requires heatsinking since those are biased into Class A with a somewhat high current. a PIMETA however doesn't produce that much heat and might be better in a closed casing. a Gilmore Dynalo also produces considerable heat so you might wanna think about it also.

all and all, you could pick from the range of choices that i've mentioned above. a PIMETA, an M3 or a Dynalo. and of course the CMOY (but from the looks of it, you're trying to avoid the CMOY). the M3 might get a bit packed in the 5.25" case. a Dynalo could be miniturized pretty small, but produces heat. so my suggestion is the PIMETA.

the PIMETA is quite easy to build, not that awfully complex compared to the CMOY, and easily sourceable for parts. you could refer here for schematics.
^ but i do suggest that you start off slowly, trying the CMOY first before moving on to better designs. that should give you the experience which will come in handy.

Thanks, sifu...

When it comes to sourceable, probably it is accesible at the usual lair of electronics component like Jalan Pasar ehh?

If this amp works, perhaps the next big thing is the Philips HP1000 !!! Initially, i planned to buy this headphone only to realize that my soundcard will not be able to drive it properly. A saying that goes, if your headphone cost your 2 bucks, spend 5 bucks on the amp to make it sounds like 20 bucks...

I just got my SHP-895 last week and I love it I love it I love it I love it I love it!!

My roommate loves it, my neighbour loves it, my cousin loves it, my brother loves it, my cat loves it !

Oh ya.. add me to the list also.
- ColeXE

the components is a lot harder to source for. take a look in the DIY Amp thread and you'll see that most people have a problem sourcing for one or more of the required parts. even necessary parts for the CMOY is hard to source for.

some hard to acquire parts includes the high quality power caps, a high quality polypropylene decoupling cap, the gold plated IC socket, the Opamp chip and a high quality dual track potentiometer for volume control. also, the 1% metal film resistors are hard to come by.

there's shops mentioned in the DIY Amp thread, which is Nixie Electronics and some other shops that you could source parts for. try reading the many pages in the thread to get yourself started.

Out of curiosity, what soundcards are you guys on?

some on external DACs, some on EMU0404, some on EMU1212, some on Prodigy, some on Chaintech AV710, and some on external soundcards. heck, some even use built-in soundcards and SoundBlasters.

i don't recall anyone still using ESI Juli@, or am i wrong?

^ there's even EMU1616 in here. and if i recall correctly, there's EMU1820 also.

count me in !!
SHP-895 owner
any recommendation of amp to pair with this headphone?

a CMOY?

[ah, the minimum 10 letters regulation. so this shall count as a filler.]

yeah..i have CMOY in my mind. oh btw, i've looked at ur thread selling DIY CMOY there..but im looking for one with adapter n knob (already booked)

ah, about that. i could build you another one with a knob and an adapter. those are custom made, so feel free to ask for custom specs. both of the buyers did ask for a somewhat major modification to the amp, and i fulfilled their request.

ok then..let see my wallet after CNY..might be getting one from u

Hi fellas,

Seems everyone's raving about SHP-895 so I was wondering, compared to a cheaper model say the 805(which is about $100 difference), what would you say the plus points of the 895 model?i.e. where does the pricing difference go to?

I tried googling for a review on cnet-asia and epinions but unable to find one. Is the 895 known differently elsewhere?

Forgive my ignorance, I dont have much experience with headphones so I hope someone can enlighten me.

i did tried both the SHP-895 and SHP-805, but can't really remember where exactly i posted the review.

plus points of the 895 compared to the 805:
+ stand
+ better finishing
+ better quality
+ better soundstage
+ better sound detail
+ bigger earcup
+ longer cord
+ harder to drive?

you'd most probably need a headamp with the SHP-895, but you could get away unamped if you were to use the SHP-805. still, the SHP-895 benefits greatly with ample amplification, yet the SHP-805 stays stagnant even when amped.

my take : get the SHP-895. the extra $100 is worth it, every penny of the way.

Thx for the info thedoctor. Appreciate the lowdown. I'm wondering if you're a doctor by profession or a fan of the motogp champion . I respect both of em in any case

Just some clarification on certain matters(seems more I ask, more questions I have sorry).

Can u pls tell me how long the 895 cord is?Reason is, if i finally decide to buy this I'd need a headphone with a cord no less than 2Ms cos thats how far my amp is from the wall i will lean into while watching tv.

When you say, headamp(I reckon this is for use of the 895 with a portable player i.e. walkman, mp3 player etc right?), is that the diy set as per your sig?

Any idea the market price of the 895? I know some forumers r selling them but how much does it retail at shops?

Thx again.

895 cable is 3 meter long.
and for the ppl choosing the 895 and 805. the different between the two headphone is quite big. but still, it worth to pay another RM 100 for it.
even though it sounds like 805 sounds bad, but take this point, you can't find any better headphone within RM 150 compare to 805.
=P

the nick is after Valentino Rossi, i'm in no way related to the medical fields.


eh, i though the cord is 4 meters? or i might be making a mistake.


a headamp is a Headphone Amplifier. and different from the rest of the crowd who don't think that the SHP-895 would benefit much from amplification, from my experience messing with it, it needs an amp to perform well.
regardless whether you're using a walkman, an mp3 player or from an uber l33t soundcard, an external amp shall improve the sound a lot.

a headmp could be DIY'ed if you're interested, or bought from somewhere. even retailers/shops are selling it.


market price should be around the price selling the bulk sections. but the SHP-895 are kindda hard to find in retail shops. i've never seen one, only the SHP-805.

lol i saw some shop selling HP895 with price RM 280... =X

oh really ??
where was that ??
maybe buy from here also

2 units of hp890 users here.
get them at a cheap price.

hp890 comes with 4 meter cable.

The Doctor:
I wish I could attend the gathering. But I guess I'll have to hope that Head-fi has meet ups in Wichita. Coz as of now, that is where I am. LOL. Oh and since I am getting a friend to DIY it for me, I probably can get it for USD150-USD200. Mobility is not too much of a concern for me since I don't listen to music on the go.

Thx PcWork & thedoctor, for your responses.

In regards to cable length, I think 3-4m should be just fine for me. I suppose all I have to do now is come out with the money

Off topic a bit, btw, good to find a motorcycle racing fan here. Valentino Rossi is definitely the man. After Honda and Yamaha, hope to see him as a champion on a suzuki one day

Thx again everyone.

what type of headamp that you have in mind? if solid state is your preference, then my take is the M3.
or might i suggest something different? the SOHA. that's by far the best DIY amp that i've built so far. but since there's no printed PCB available yet, you'd have to live with the normal stripboard. but still, the SOHA should be a step up from the raved Millet Hybrid.

i would most probably attend the next gathering, and bring along my modded EMU0404, together with the many amps that i have in my possession.

anyone wants to sell hp890/shp895? interested buyer here. PM me

sorry. tumpang this thread

SAW it at lowyat
selling at RM230

refer back the 1st thread

just found this thread.....

own a SHP-895.....normally using it to pair with my ipod video.....but when outstation...use the ipod original earphone coz the 895 is too big on my head......talking of sound quality....the shp-895 is really great at the price....

and...yeap...DaViS is a nice seller.....i had took two headphone from him...one is for me and one is for my friend........

cool oso ma when use it outstation
sure all starring on u
haha

ori ipod earphone is suck

hmm...can be said like that....but if don't abandon it.....it can be used too.....that's why i'm finding an earphone for the ipod....mostly go for SHE 9500....

HP1k user reporting.

sri comp selling shp-895 at RM230..if im not mistaken

anyway..shp-895 owner here
so put my name in under shp-895 club

This post has been edited by POYOZER: Feb 9 2006, 12:38 AM

I found some interesting review in head-fi.org

The SHP805
My first impression was: incredible detail, good soundstage, but a rather plasticky/dull/timbre-less presentation. The sonic balance is indeed somewhat off, perhaps a bit too much bass and definitely too much treble -> the famous V-shaped EQ, which Philips phones are known for. The specific equalization will depend on your taste, I applied a treble roll-off starting at 2000Hz descending to about -2-3db at the upper end of the spectrum. Then I tried "stuffing" them as sgrossklass suggested, and it did wonders to the performance -> the "plastickyness" is allmost completely gone. The stuffing took also care off the slightly overblown bass, now I feel they could actually need a tiny bit more bass (but beware that the Fortissimo is not an especially bassy source). The next thing I did was adding the amp, as I wrote above - this helped a lot.
Stuffed, amped and equalized, the SHP805 is a killer phone that proves a worthy challenge for any phone in the sub 80 EUR class.

The SHP895
Now to the big brother. He didn't leave such a favorable impression and will be returned, so I'm mostly going to tell you what Philips screwed up here (and ramble a lot). That is especially silly, as they did many things wrong with the SHP895, that were actually well done with the HP890.

1. Sound
It lacks the (residual) "plastickyness" of the SHP805 and add more timbre and body to everything. Instrument separation is also clearly better, although I wouldn't call the SHP805 exactly "muddy" in the first place. The bass is a bit tighter and definitely extends deeper than the SHP805's. The highs on the other hand have a rather annoying touch to them - I would call them harsher and a bit too "in your face", plus the are even more boosted than the SHP805's. Also note that the SHP895 didn't improve as much with the amp as the SHP805 did.

2. Comfort
Dumb, dumb, dumb. The HP890 had a self-adjusting headband plus a "bow" above it as "superstructure". That looked rather ugly and the headband was a little to loose, so the cups could start to sag and ride on your ears. Philips obviously wanted the SHP895 to look nicer, so they gave it only a sturdy headband, but some dumbo decided that the notoriously flawed concept was just to good to leave out. Then there was the designer of the SHPs, which wanted the headband/bow to be flatter shaped (flatter than your head, so only the mid part rests on your skull). Let's add all that up: when on my head, the cups constantly keep pulling the mid part of the (rather hard) headband down on the middle of my skull. Add to that a little too much clamping force from the side, and the SHP895 beats the famous Sennheiser "death claw" by far.

Not enough uncomfyness for you? Guess what - they are hot. No, not in a positive sense. They are hot, hot, hot. I can hardly keep them on my head for more than half an hour before my ears start to smoke/sweat. That is no wonder as there is not much space inside the SHP895's cups, the padding of the drivers rests right againt your ears. I tried to counteract this by stuffing them like the SHP805, but the issue wasn't really resolved through that and the sound got too distant with the necessary amount of stuffing.

Still not enough? They are heavy. I suspect that the HP890 wasn't (much) lighter, but through cleverly distributing that weight on a surface as large es possible (wide and smooth headband, very large and smooth cups), they could actually make you forget that you are wearing them. With the SHP895's weight resting mostly on only one point of your skull, that is just the opposite.

Bottom line is, the sonic improvement over the modded SHP805 has a hard time justifying 3 times their price. The comfort should also be better and not significantly worse the the SHP805's. And although the build quality is clearly superior to the SHP805, the dissadvantages overweigh in my eyes.

Good review, some what this is what I am find out for SHP895 vs HP890.
Philips have this move as too many people making noise on HP890 quality and easily crack which I suspect is due to their roughness usage. *Oooppss*
Only those higher end headphone Philips still using the HP1000 design which is good for me.

now this is what i would call personal preference.
from my experience : the SHP805 doesn't benefit much from an amp, not like the SHP895 did. and i assure you, my setup is nothing to be reckoned off. i did an AB test and clearly the SHP-895 beats the SHP-805 by a few miles.

both are properly burned-in at about 60 hours each, properly amped, and feeded by an EMU0404.

isnt comfort another personal issue? i mean the reviewer could have a head the size of a watermelon.. :b

That's why it is hard to comment something which is all depend on personal preferences.
I just keep my comment open either good or bad.

i like the watermelon analogy. i makes me recall Anna Ohura..

lolz. those watermelons i like.

anyway. i just got a pair of 895s. the watermelon head is right. the grip is tight. like a virgin. >_< i cant say whether its worse than the senns grip of death.. but i can say its quite bad. just putting it on i can feel a grip on my jaw. o_o

1st time round sounds rather bright. lacking bass.

the 895 is quite bright from my experiece (gets brighter with emu..abit harsh now), but it doesnt distort the actual music. Before hand, it does lack bass, after sum time, i can sense the bass bieng there, n recently on the emu, the bass is DEFINITELY there, tight solid, OOMPH! Anna Ohura..oops! that part is FULL

Regarding FULL, on the emu (unamped), the output is seriously unsuspectedly..FULL thru all range, high are just there (sumtimes too much), mids are clear and lows are oomph! Wonder how it the sound would be with an amp..hopefully tomorrow im rajin enuf to make em. IMHO eveybody..IMHO only.

But tis is their review of the phone at a super bloated price..EU80 for HP805..thats almost like the price of HP1000..but hp895 comfort is..ah, wat comfort! all i haf is suffering, but after sum time my skull has flaten n curved to follow the 895 bends..hehe!

This post has been edited by ijan: Feb 12 2006, 02:11 AM

A little running in required I suppose



I got the same feeling Tight as first, but after a while I kinda got used to it >_>

If you understand first time having sex theory then you will easily adopt this concept adapt to everything on "new"

*18SX*

Thx wlteng,
Good review

how exactly do we get extra bass n the most out of the 805?

Start by changing the picture on your avatar

bass out of 805, get an amplifier (805+amp>895, better get the 895 xd, ohohoho) or EQ-ed setting. jus adjust low freq gain to ur liking la. but dun expect much la..800/805 series are really..not there yet..its jus in a totally different league compared to 895..i dunno why the reviewer classed it as that.

ouch. dude that could be his gf. >_<

anyway, the grip of the 895 is getting easier to bear. havent suffered any heat problems yet.. but only had em on for about an hour longest so far.

doesnt cancel out noises completely.. but does cancel out quite a bit of external noise.

still burning it in.

hmm..im used to using them for mor then 4 hours straight without knowing when im doing my werk..just that sumtimes it hits a soft spot on my head n pains my skull..ehehehe!

im itiching for a HP1000...hmmm...amp belum ada, sudah mimpi besar..cit cit cit!

there will be another batch build of SOHAs next week. i'm getting parts for my Valve Buffered Inverted GainClone and since those are basically a SOHA preamp, i'm thinking of offering another SOHA bulk for interested parties.
this time around, i'm thinking of a level higher than the last build. *hint* lots and lots of silver.

lol. i still like my HP890, and ijan's HP890 is on my hand also now.
it's very durable now, and have very nice life with me now. lol
i even DIY one wooden stand for it. and DIY OFC cable with 2.5mm plug...(phew,,, i can find the adapter.. lucky huh..)




ijan : ur HP890 is very fine here, no need to worry ya. =P i spend a lot of time making it as good as new now. wipe it nicely. and tighten all the screw.. and so on.. so now it is as good as new, except the join there got a bit cacat, which 100% don't effect normal use.

Yes I reckon SHP895 is class ahead of the SHP805 and the price also indicate so.

oooo my beloved ex-wife im planning on changing my wife again..but dunno where to dump my old one..haha! thats the only reason im not changing, if sumbody offers to buy my 895 at the price i bought..hohohohoho! i might just get that hd650..dem, this disease is spreading like wildflower!

got my 895 from DaviS. So far so good.

At this price you paid, for sure is good. Unless you have been poisoning on how good is good then you will say 895 is rubbish but how much you need to pay for "better" cans?

well...im having sum rough thought on HD650..maybe AD1000 or loer range series..life is hard..

or join the electrostatics club?

That will be too dangerous for somebody. Imaging you putting AC current around your head.

bought my 895 from mikechai....very nice product!

is normal creative PCI sound card (vibra or live) enough to push hp890?? sound good enough under this situation??

hey..another question to shp895 owner..
how is the level of comfort of shp895 after hours of wearing?? realy feels like you are wearing nothing???
another issue is that, does shp895 cause headache due to the electromagnetic field??feeling just like after hours of talking on handphone..
currently i am facing such problem with my headphone (unknown brand). thinking of getting a nice headphone (budget rm200) but worry doing the wrong investment on getting one which cause me headache again.
any comments on this two issues??

Nothing one lah, its current that really kills. Even if your skin has no resistance its only a maximum of 16mA with an 8W power amp. (t-amp )



Never had that kind of headache before wor. Level of comfort... well, no you will know that something is on your head, go for HP890 lah, more comfy and less tight, at the cost of being far more fragile though.

get hp890 then for better comfort =P...
i am fans of hp890. hahahaha

mikechai still selling it? thought only davis.

so how much is hp890??? anyone selling here??
how is the sound quality compared to shp895???

All IT at Lowyat still selling HP890 , RM190 if I not mistaken. There also some folks selling Used HP890 at Garage Sales [Music & Audio Related Accessories].

Good buy! Go for it. Harvey Norman selling at RM289...

SBC HP1000 new user...

add me to the list guys