QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Jan 26 2006, 12:40 AM)
an interconnect or something else?Headphones PhilipS HP890 and SHP895 and SBC HP1000 clubz^^, come and share ur love story of this can
Headphones PhilipS HP890 and SHP895 and SBC HP1000 clubz^^, come and share ur love story of this can
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Jan 26 2006, 01:05 AM
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Jan 26 2006, 02:15 AM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Jan 26 2006, 01:21 AM) a 2.5mm minijack, with a unique locking mechanism. the other end is terminated with the normal 3.5mm minijack.that 2.5mm minijack will be hard to DIY since it needs a unique lock. |
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Jan 26 2006, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(Shogun @ Jan 26 2006, 11:23 AM) Hahaha... I'm gonna bypass thaet whole process and get a AKG K701 and ask my friend to DIY me an M3 amp. Still thinking about which op-amps to pick tho. the AD8065 got my vote. or you could try OPA627(pricey) or the OPA227 (cheap). the AD8065 has the best price/performance ratio IMO.another thing, why not wait for the next gathering and see if a tube amp could scale higher than a discreet solid state amp. or how well a full OTL tube amp compares to a hybrid implementation (SOHA). i bet the next gathering will have more contenders than the previous. QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Jan 26 2006, 11:47 AM) em if we use bek the 2.5mm minijack, dunno can onot leh i have no idea. but the cable is already using a Linear Oxygen Free Copper, good enough if you ask me. unless you replace it with silver based cables, then it's a waste of time/money.after changing the cable, is it really achieve a very good quality sound? hw much it cost? |
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Jan 27 2006, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE(Kagaya @ Jan 26 2006, 09:41 PM) SHP-840 owner here, can join ahh? This is also the XXL Clarity what... though i do think that this should be asked in the DIY amp thread since i've been warned by the thread starter once for not sticking to the topic and leading the discussion astray, i do think i should in someway reply since it's been asked.BTW, i'm looking forward to build a Headphone amp the size of the 5.25" bay on a PC, utilising the PSU, with the aid of a separate DC/DC converter circuitry to avoid noise and thingy, anybody interested in the idea and have do such a thing before? No resources on such gi-normous Headphone Amp Project can be found, except for the trusty CMOY... perhaps just dump a small CMOY into a big casing? PC uses a switching power supply which is in a way bad to audio usage since the power supplied isn't constant. you could however get away with a large capacitance caps and use a CRC filter to smooth it out. but still, switching power supply isn't always preffered especially in headphone amp where power supply quality has a large effect on the sound quality. most people tend to avoid using switching power supply especially from the PC since that's not the best place to get a good quality power. and you might wanna take into consideration the RF interference from the many components in the case, which could possibly get into the audio path. but if you're still interested to try it out, a PIMETA or an M3 in an aluminium case with proper grounding might help in reducing the interference. still, i do think that you should at least filter about 5V from the 12V rail to get acceptable quality power, which gives you something more or less 7V to run the amp from. you could add a low dropout voltage regulator after that to stabilize the power. but with 6V-7V, you'd have to cancel out high voltage Opamps, mainly the OPA627, AD8066, AD8065, AD843, AD8610 and AD8620 since those requires higher voltage to work well. that will leave you with the normal quality/stock choices like the OPA2227, OPA2134, OPA2132, AD823 and something like the TL072, NE5532, NJM4556, NJM4558 and the rest of the jellybean chips. oh, i forgot.. the M3 tend to get hot after a while so that might also be taken into your consideration. the discreet MOSFET output requires heatsinking since those are biased into Class A with a somewhat high current. a PIMETA however doesn't produce that much heat and might be better in a closed casing. a Gilmore Dynalo also produces considerable heat so you might wanna think about it also. all and all, you could pick from the range of choices that i've mentioned above. a PIMETA, an M3 or a Dynalo. and of course the CMOY (but from the looks of it, you're trying to avoid the CMOY). the M3 might get a bit packed in the 5.25" case. a Dynalo could be miniturized pretty small, but produces heat. so my suggestion is the PIMETA. the PIMETA is quite easy to build, not that awfully complex compared to the CMOY, and easily sourceable for parts. you could refer here for schematics. ^ but i do suggest that you start off slowly, trying the CMOY first before moving on to better designs. that should give you the experience which will come in handy. |
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Jan 27 2006, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(Kagaya @ Jan 27 2006, 01:05 AM) Thanks, sifu... the components is a lot harder to source for. take a look in the DIY Amp thread and you'll see that most people have a problem sourcing for one or more of the required parts. even necessary parts for the CMOY is hard to source for.When it comes to sourceable, probably it is accesible at the usual lair of electronics component like Jalan Pasar ehh? If this amp works, perhaps the next big thing is the Philips HP1000 !!! Initially, i planned to buy this headphone only to realize that my soundcard will not be able to drive it properly. A saying that goes, if your headphone cost your 2 bucks, spend 5 bucks on the amp to make it sounds like 20 bucks... some hard to acquire parts includes the high quality power caps, a high quality polypropylene decoupling cap, the gold plated IC socket, the Opamp chip and a high quality dual track potentiometer for volume control. also, the 1% metal film resistors are hard to come by. there's shops mentioned in the DIY Amp thread, which is Nixie Electronics and some other shops that you could source parts for. try reading the many pages in the thread to get yourself started. |
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Jan 27 2006, 01:36 AM
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QUOTE(kernel @ Jan 27 2006, 01:30 AM) some on external DACs, some on EMU0404, some on EMU1212, some on Prodigy, some on Chaintech AV710, and some on external soundcards. heck, some even use built-in soundcards and SoundBlasters.i don't recall anyone still using ESI Juli@, or am i wrong? |
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Jan 27 2006, 01:38 AM
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^ there's even EMU1616 in here. and if i recall correctly, there's EMU1820 also.
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Jan 27 2006, 01:59 AM
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Jan 27 2006, 02:17 AM
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QUOTE(deadgriever @ Jan 27 2006, 02:06 AM) yeah..i have CMOY in my mind. oh btw, i've looked at ur thread selling DIY CMOY there..but im looking for one with adapter n knob (already booked) ah, about that. i could build you another one with a knob and an adapter. those are custom made, so feel free to ask for custom specs. both of the buyers did ask for a somewhat major modification to the amp, and i fulfilled their request. |
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Jan 27 2006, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(Gimli @ Jan 27 2006, 02:27 PM) Hi fellas, i did tried both the SHP-895 and SHP-805, but can't really remember where exactly i posted the review. Seems everyone's raving about SHP-895 so I was wondering, compared to a cheaper model say the 805(which is about $100 difference), what would you say the plus points of the 895 model?i.e. where does the pricing difference go to? I tried googling for a review on cnet-asia and epinions but unable to find one. Is the 895 known differently elsewhere? Forgive my ignorance, I dont have much experience with headphones so I hope someone can enlighten me. plus points of the 895 compared to the 805: + stand + better finishing + better quality + better soundstage + better sound detail + bigger earcup + longer cord + harder to drive? you'd most probably need a headamp with the SHP-895, but you could get away unamped if you were to use the SHP-805. still, the SHP-895 benefits greatly with ample amplification, yet the SHP-805 stays stagnant even when amped. my take : get the SHP-895. the extra $100 is worth it, every penny of the way. |
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Jan 27 2006, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(Gimli @ Jan 27 2006, 06:02 PM) Thx for the info thedoctor. Appreciate the lowdown. I'm wondering if you're a doctor by profession or a fan of the motogp champion Just some clarification on certain matters(seems more I ask, more questions I have sorry). the nick is after Valentino Rossi, i'm in no way related to the medical fields. QUOTE(Gimli @ Jan 27 2006, 06:02 PM) Can u pls tell me how long the 895 cord is?Reason is, if i finally decide to buy this I'd need a headphone with a cord no less than 2Ms cos thats how far my amp is from the wall i will lean into while watching tv. eh, i though the cord is 4 meters? or i might be making a mistake. QUOTE(Gimli @ Jan 27 2006, 06:02 PM) When you say, headamp(I reckon this is for use of the 895 with a portable player i.e. walkman, mp3 player etc right?), is that the diy set as per your sig? a headamp is a Headphone Amplifier. and different from the rest of the crowd who don't think that the SHP-895 would benefit much from amplification, from my experience messing with it, it needs an amp to perform well. regardless whether you're using a walkman, an mp3 player or from an uber l33t soundcard, an external amp shall improve the sound a lot. a headmp could be DIY'ed if you're interested, or bought from somewhere. even retailers/shops are selling it. QUOTE(Gimli @ Jan 27 2006, 06:02 PM) Any idea the market price of the 895? I know some forumers r selling them but how much does it retail at shops? market price should be around the price selling the bulk sections. but the SHP-895 are kindda hard to find in retail shops. i've never seen one, only the SHP-805. |
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Jan 28 2006, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(Shogun @ Jan 28 2006, 10:50 AM) The Doctor: what type of headamp that you have in mind? if solid state is your preference, then my take is the M3.I wish I could attend the gathering. But I guess I'll have to hope that Head-fi has meet ups in Wichita. Coz as of now, that is where I am. LOL. Oh and since I am getting a friend to DIY it for me, I probably can get it for USD150-USD200. Mobility is not too much of a concern for me since I don't listen to music on the go. or might i suggest something different? the SOHA. that's by far the best DIY amp that i've built so far. but since there's no printed PCB available yet, you'd have to live with the normal stripboard. but still, the SOHA should be a step up from the raved Millet Hybrid. i would most probably attend the next gathering, and bring along my modded EMU0404, together with the many amps that i have in my possession. |
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Feb 9 2006, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(wlteng @ Feb 9 2006, 08:44 AM) 1. Sound It lacks the (residual) "plastickyness" of the SHP805 and add more timbre and body to everything. Instrument separation is also clearly better, although I wouldn't call the SHP805 exactly "muddy" in the first place. The bass is a bit tighter and definitely extends deeper than the SHP805's. The highs on the other hand have a rather annoying touch to them - I would call them harsher and a bit too "in your face", plus the are even more boosted than the SHP805's. Also note that the SHP895 didn't improve as much with the amp as the SHP805 did. now this is what i would call personal preference. from my experience : the SHP805 doesn't benefit much from an amp, not like the SHP895 did. and i assure you, my setup is nothing to be reckoned off. i did an AB test and clearly the SHP-895 beats the SHP-805 by a few miles. both are properly burned-in at about 60 hours each, properly amped, and feeded by an EMU0404. |
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Feb 9 2006, 07:52 PM
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Feb 13 2006, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Feb 13 2006, 05:06 PM) hmm..im used to using them for mor then 4 hours straight without knowing when im doing my werk..just that sumtimes it hits a soft spot on my head n pains my skull..ehehehe! im itiching for a HP1000...hmmm...amp belum ada, sudah mimpi besar..cit cit cit! there will be another batch build of SOHAs next week. i'm getting parts for my Valve Buffered Inverted GainClone and since those are basically a SOHA preamp, i'm thinking of offering another SOHA bulk for interested parties. this time around, i'm thinking of a level higher than the last build. *hint* lots and lots of silver. |
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Mar 6 2006, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE(PcWork @ Mar 6 2006, 12:24 AM) suggestion get. Philips aurillium PC805.. =P or audiotrak OPTOplay. sound really sweet when paring up with my HP890. =) who said HP890 lack in treble??? i will say, they never power it up properlly.. =P sorry don't flame me ya.. just my 2 cent, powering HP890 with AKM chip built in aurillium and PC805 really sweet. even without amp already the sound is quite balance. nice treble, tight bass (not bloated). and if i use optoplay + cmoy buffered amp... hehe of course it "must" sound good... never tried Pc805 with an amp, IMHO i think pc805 have enough power to drive HP890 already. so i didn't quite like to go through it to amp... too messy on table.. the PSC805 might be a lil bit hard to get right now. so the other viable option is to use the Chaintech AV-710 and a headamp. i find that the Chaintech AV-710 is quite good actually. the soundstage is narrower compared to the EMU0404, with lack of details and the sheer excitement, but still it's a good card for budget buyers. the Chaintech AV-710 + dedicated headamp has my vote. |
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Mar 6 2006, 01:33 AM
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^ a quick glimpse through the datasheet shows that the AKM AK4353 DAC used in the Aurilium is on par with the Wolfson WM8728 used in the Chaintech AV-710. in fact, the Wolfson WM8728 (Chaintech) is a tad better than the AKM4353 (Aurilium) according to the specs.
and judging from the internal pic mikechai posted in his review, i would say the Chaintech has more or less the same DAC implementation as the Aurilium. but the Chaintech uses |
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Mar 6 2006, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(mikechai @ Mar 6 2006, 10:19 PM) Yes, the Aurilium has 2 DACs, AK4353 and Philips UDA1338H. I found that the sound quality from the line out which uses the UDA1338H is superior than the headphone out. So bear that in mind. i missed that. comparison is based entirely on the AKM4353 for the amplified headphone out. if that's the case, then most probably you're right, then Aurilium is on par with the EMU0404. didn't know the multichannel output is superior than the stereo output. |
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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Apr 12 2006, 06:59 PM) I'm curious, is the PA2V2 good enough for the HP1000? Maybe tachikoma and thedoctor is right, the HP1000 indeed needs a better Amp seriously. (or is it just them?) i'm sure it's just us. and how come Tachi is mentioned? supposed to be ijan and KilJim. maybe you should wait for the next gathering. if i could attend, you could hope to play with some uber high end DIY amps. and a few modded sources. |
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