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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V24, "Drive so fast for what???" EDITION

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TSdares
post Jun 15 2012, 11:32 AM, updated 14y ago

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PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX CLUB V24


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Proud owner of Proton Saga BLM in LYN
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Member Car Pictures
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Proton Saga FLX price and specifications
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Previous Proton Saga BLM Thread
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JOIN THE BLM CLUB HERE
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JOIN US NOW, DON'T WAIT!!


BLMClub is now on FACEBOOK!!
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Review and Comparison
If you are new in buying and selecting a car between myvi and BLM,
kindly read the nice info given by our CyberKewl ( a driver and owner for both myvi and BLM)

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Proton Saga BLM, FL & FLX Fuel Consumption by Fuelly
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Engine Oil Price List By DSV4600
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Proton S16 2010 ANCAP Crash Test

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Known Saga problems and solutions:
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notworthy.gif Kindly Update me by PM if i miss out your name in the Owner list~! notworthy.gif

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post Jun 15 2012, 11:32 AM

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Enduro Shield Nanotechnology Rain Repellent Bulk Order
Bulk Price RM65.00 (Original RM80)
Minimum order for bulk price = 10 sets


1. ka_one2000
2. forgot_86
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7. iskazulka
8. ohnogun
9. Ixora.Ix
10. GP mad man

Hint / Tips :
* since one bottle 50ml, can use for 4 windscreen (each windscreen only RM16.25)
* if i not mistaken send our car for windscreen treatment at car spa or detailing shop, one windscreen cost us RM100++
* wiper friendly, can use wiper and spray windscreen cleaner as usual
* just RM16.25, it able to effectively repel water up to 12 months





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3Max 4-point front strut bar
Bulk price RM135 (original RM150) - Minimum order for bulk price = 5 orders

1. dares
2. davidke20
3. Mieza
4. lhwj
5. huzaifa136
6. zukjka


3Max 3-point rear strut bar
Bulk price RM120 (original RM130) - Minimum order for bulk price = 5 orders

1. davidke20

If more than 3 orders for both front and rear struts, total will be RM250
Bulk closing date - 15 June 2012.

refer to spoiler for the front strut bar installed in SiuYi's car (sorry SiuYi pls dun mind ph34r.gif)

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Strut bar COD TT
Date: 14th Jul6 2012 (Saturday)
Time: 1:30pm


Those who are not in the bulk list are welcomed to join and TCSS + poison brows.gif

Attendance:
1. Mahihi
2. dares
3. lhwj
4. zukjka
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.


For those who cannot make it to COD with Mahihi, pls arrange separately with him to collect. Also, pls bank in a deposit to Mahihi for your merchandise, RM 70 for FSB, RM60 for RSB. I shall PM his bank account details to each of you, thanks!


Location: Esso petrol Station, USJ
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post Jun 15 2012, 11:33 AM

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First. whistling.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jun 15 2012, 11:33 AM)
First. whistling.gif
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Takyah kerja ke? whistling.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 11:38 AM)
Takyah kerja ke? whistling.gif
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Duduk office, goyang kaki saja. Boss cuti lagi. whistling.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 11:40 AM

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COOL... so fast V24
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post Jun 15 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jun 15 2012, 11:39 AM)
Duduk office, goyang kaki ketiga saja. Boss cuti lagi.  whistling.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 11:42 AM

 
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New tered! New TS! rclxms.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 11:41 AM)
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laugh.gif Itu takpa. Jangan cakap servis kaki ketiga, sudah. ph34r.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 11:50 AM

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Reporting! Congrats to V24! Tot my phone got problem, the title on 1st post still V23, TS kindly rectify smile.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 15 2012, 11:50 AM)
Reporting! Congrats to V24! Tot my phone got problem, the title on 1st post still V23, TS kindly rectify smile.gif
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laugh.gif Ini TS pun bukan virgin punya TS. shakehead.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 12:02 PM

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TS, i wanna suggest u add another spoiler in post #1, slot for member car's photo..
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congratulates to the new TS and V24 icon_rolleyes.gif

here is the template used as guide to mod the rear design, created by me...

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you can use this template (Photoshop) to disable every layer that I created to see the different tongue.gif

Attached File  Saga_FLX_Template.zip ( 327.34k ) Number of downloads: 76

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post Jun 15 2012, 12:10 PM

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congrat!!!!!! and no news from bank...i super booring

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wah new thread....
new TS must sponsor some car accesories to small kalefeh like us tongue.gif

-modified-
ops, forget to say congratz cheers.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 11:32 AM)
PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX CLUB V24

Review and Comparison
If you are new in buying and selecting a car between myvi and BLM,
kindly read the nice info given by our CyberKewl ( a driver and owner for both myvi and BLM)

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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i suggest it's time to update the comparision, because the latest Saga now come with ABS, EBD, dual-airbags...
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jun 15 2012, 11:52 AM)
laugh.gif Ini TS pun bukan virgin punya TS.  shakehead.gif
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Pls don't discourage our new TS smile.gif he's good hearted arsehole. Nowadays very hard to find virgin no more. Reminds me of my haiskol time when ma mate said, those who owns a PhD become teacher, those who can't teach, teach gym. How to obtain PhD? Being ugly, so you don't have time to lose your virgin over and over again! So, we all learning. Either learn to be ugly or learn to copy. smile.gif Keep up the good work dares!
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post Jun 15 2012, 12:19 PM

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Suddenly everyone come out of the woodwork blink.gif

I am on tablet now, will update the first post when I am home.

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how about a hall of shame section with members who have totaled their rides or bought another car?
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 15 2012, 12:13 PM)
Pls don't discourage our new TS smile.gif he's good hearted arsehole. Nowadays very hard to find virgin no more. Reminds me of my haiskol time when ma mate said, those who owns a PhD become teacher, those who can't teach, teach gym. How to obtain PhD? Being ugly, so you don't have time to lose your virgin over and over again! So, we all learning. Either learn to be ugly or learn to copy. smile.gif Keep up the good work dares!
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blink.gif Where got discourage wo? Peer pressure, mate. Peer pressure. brows.gif


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QUOTE(zamanjaafar @ Jun 15 2012, 12:20 PM)
how about a hall of shame section with members who have totaled their rides or bought another car?
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sweat.gif Jahat ni. Macam target satu former TS punya olang. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 12:19 PM)
Suddenly everyone come out of the woodwork blink.gif

I am on tablet now, will update the first post when I am home.
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this is the reality... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 12:54 PM

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Congrats new ts..

Brace urself regarding powerful vios..kekeke
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post Jun 15 2012, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Jun 15 2012, 12:54 PM)
Congrats new ts..

Brace urself regarding powerful vios..kekeke
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Dugong? Why need to brace ourself for that blink.gif I never race with them before in ma BLM. May be ma car too uncle, they also never kacau ma car before. However, there are several occassion when I was dribing Plotong Fila 1.6, they will come cucuk me, sometimes will pretend like going to over take me when downhill blink.gif

Where as if I'm in my ISWAGA, I can never speedpass a dugong, otherwise they will sure diong 9 me de. There was once a white DRD Sportibo kena overtook by moi whilst it was crawling(note that I'm not even racing him), the bugger quickly zip through emergency lane overtake me then jam brake infront of me vmad.gif Luckily my foot work is extra capable, managed to kept my NCD. An M3 less lucky hit my butt, I got down & see I only jatuh the reg plate,no big deal, both agreed to report accident WITHOUT disclose 3rd party since I not planning to claim, he also dunwanto lose his NCD. Off we proceed to Tun H.S.Lee to lodge report, then found the dugong ter"hiked" on the curb at the Chinese assembly hall there blink.gif

Drive safe people. Dugong is a good car, but if the driver is dangerous, regardless how careful you are they'll still give you trouble. Don't kacau them. If wanna tapau, make sure don't gib chance for them to chase back laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 14 2012, 08:31 PM)
Siape mau cuba?  brows.gif

supercharger kit


Added on June 14, 2012, 8:32 pm

Stroke to 1.6 first, then BOT kautim. Might be cheaper  tongue.gif
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Haha, I'd much rather that supercharger kit than to do that. Less hassle since I got no CVT. whistling.gif

QUOTE(zukjka @ Jun 14 2012, 10:23 PM)
Jgn kasi poison wa lagi if not this month makan maggi.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 14 2012, 11:46 PM)
Who is the new TS  unsure.gif
1 passenger at a time. Take it slow and let the good time role.
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I get to test also, or not? biggrin.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 01:50 PM

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Those who are joining the strut bar bulk, please check the second post for COD details. Let me know if you can make it on that day.

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 15 2012, 12:13 PM)
i suggest it's time to update the comparision, because the latest Saga now come with ABS, EBD, dual-airbags...
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i tot someone discussed about flx se with persona kosong spec and myvi lagi best? fuh..that is alot to compare liaw.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 15 2012, 12:02 PM)
TS, i wanna suggest u add another spoiler in post #1, slot for member car's photo..
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Nice suggestions, post your pics first and I'll start the spoiler slot. thumbup.gif

Updates to first post:
- Saga vs Myvi review updated.
- CVT "recall" announcement removed, since it is largely irrelevant now.
- Removed missing BLMclub logo. If you guys have the correct link pls send to me thanks.
- price list updated.

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June x da 31 leh.
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QUOTE(zukjka @ Jun 15 2012, 02:08 PM)
June x da 31 leh.
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Corrected, should be 30th.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 15 2012, 01:26 PM)
Dugong? Why need to brace ourself for that blink.gif I never race with them before in ma BLM. May be ma car too uncle, they also never kacau ma car before. However, there are several occassion when I was dribing Plotong Fila 1.6, they will come cucuk me, sometimes will pretend like going to over take me when downhill blink.gif

Where as if I'm in my ISWAGA, I can never speedpass a dugong, otherwise they will sure diong 9 me de.  There was once a white DRD Sportibo kena overtook by moi whilst it was crawling(note that I'm not even racing him), the bugger quickly zip through emergency lane overtake me then jam brake infront of me vmad.gif Luckily my foot work is extra capable, managed to kept my NCD. An M3 less lucky hit my butt, I got down & see I only jatuh the reg plate,no big deal, both agreed to report accident WITHOUT disclose 3rd party since I not planning to claim, he also dunwanto lose his NCD. Off we proceed to Tun H.S.Lee to lodge report, then found the dugong ter"hiked" on the curb at the Chinese assembly hall there blink.gif

Drive safe people. Dugong is a good car, but if the driver is dangerous, regardless how careful you are they'll still give you trouble. Don't kacau them. If wanna tapau, make sure don't gib chance for them to chase back laugh.gif
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Hahahaha...bawak bertenang bro..

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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Jun 15 2012, 02:32 PM)
Hahahaha...bawak bertenang bro..

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u r rite..smile.gif
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Finally, the incoming Dugong J facelift will have 2 airbags and foglights. If only they would get rid of the 4AT...
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 02:41 PM)
Finally, the incoming Dugong J facelift will have 2 airbags and foglights. If only they would get rid of the 4AT...
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oh shyt... ph34r.gif

4AT is alredi good enuf..no lag..
10% push pedal alredi fly liaoo...
but handling..need turn steering more a bit...

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 11:32 AM)
3Max 4-point front strut bar
Bulk price RM135 (original RM150) - Minimum order for bulk price = 5 orders

1. dares
2. davidke20
3. Mieza
4. lhwj
5. huzaifa136
6. zukjka
7.

3Max 3-point rear strut bar
Bulk price RM120 (original RM130) - Minimum order for bulk price = 5 orders

1. davidke20
2.
3.
4.
5.

If more than 3 orders for both front and rear struts, total will be RM250
Bulk closing date - 15 June 2012.

refer to spoiler for the front strut bar installed in SiuYi's car (sorry SiuYi pls dun mind ph34r.gif)

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Strut bar COD TT
Date: 30th June 2012 (Saturday)
Time: 1:30pm


Those who are not in the bulk list are welcomed to join and TCSS + poison  brows.gif

Attendance:
1. Mahihi
2. dares
3. zukjka
4. r3apers
5.
6.


For those who cannot make it to COD with Mahihi, pls arrange separately with him to collect. Also, pls bank in a deposit to Mahihi for your merchandise, RM 70 for FSB, RM60 for RSB. I shall PM his bank account details to each of you, thanks!


Location: Esso petrol Station, USJ
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Joining~!

btw dares add THE CLASS OF 13 to the owner list Saga FLX | Black |STD| MT | 1.3 or 1.6 tak tau~!
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 15 2012, 12:13 PM)
i suggest it's time to update the comparision, because the latest Saga now come with ABS, EBD, dual-airbags...
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Nobody happens to own both yet therefore no such review can be posted.

QUOTE(zamanjaafar @ Jun 15 2012, 12:20 PM)
how about a hall of shame section with members who have totaled their rides or bought another car?
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Everytime you accident then take a pic and hang it on your living room mau?


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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 15 2012, 03:04 PM)
Joining~!

btw dares add THE CLASS OF 13 to the owner list Saga FLX | Black |STD| MT | 1.3 or 1.6 tak tau~!
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FLX SE = 1.6

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 15 2012, 03:04 PM)
Joining~!

btw dares add THE CLASS OF 13 to the owner list Saga FLX | Black |STD| MT | 1.3 or 1.6 tak tau~!
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Added.

Dem genius la you standard variant mane ade 1.6?? sweat.gif


Added on June 15, 2012, 3:11 pm
QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 15 2012, 03:06 PM)
Nobody happens to own both yet therefore no such review can be posted.
I have edited the ABS+EBD part and made a footnote documenting the amendments.

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 03:08 PM)
Added.

Dem genius la you standard variant mane ade 1.6??  sweat.gif
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I'm Sick 2day...thts y kepala rclxub.gif rclxub.gif ~! dunno how to do my office work now... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 15 2012, 03:12 PM)
I'm Sick 2day...thts y kepala  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif ~! dunno how to do my office work now...  sweat.gif
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I sick 3 days dy. Runny nose, cough, sometimes headache + pening. Yesterday drive to Genting summore rclxub.gif
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Kecian.... sick

Lai I sayang wub.gifwub.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 15 2012, 03:18 PM)
Kecian.... sick

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I takmau. r3apers mau unsure.gif unsure.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 03:17 PM)
I sick 3 days dy. Runny nose, cough, sometimes headache + pening. Yesterday drive to Genting summore  rclxub.gif
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i runny nose and cough now... yesterday fever... u lagi pandai drive to genting... duh..

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 15 2012, 03:18 PM)
Kecian.... sick

Lai I sayang wub.gifwub.gif
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u wan sayang who 1st? wub.gif wub.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 03:17 PM)
I sick 3 days dy. Runny nose, cough, sometimes headache + pening. Yesterday drive to Genting summore  rclxub.gif
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blink.gif Sick can go Genting somemore ah? But can try the Lan L gear, right? brows.gif
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haze coming, u guys take care ar
look out windown from company, only can see 40-50% KLCC.
remember drink more plain warm water

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Sad. My SA said FLX SE Red gonna take long time to restock. They also not sure can in before raya or not. I want before raya. cry.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 02:01 PM)
Nice suggestions, post your pics first and I'll start the spoiler slot.  thumbup.gif

Updates to first post:
- Saga vs Myvi review updated.
- CVT "recall" announcement removed, since it is largely irrelevant now.
- Removed missing BLMclub logo. If you guys have the correct link pls send to me thanks.
- price list updated.
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some type of logo i keep in my pc currently

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and this is my car pic..
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and this is my car pic..
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this wan nice~! thumbup.gif

and ur car nice too~! thumbup.gif
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additional info for members here, who havent get their official number sticker and interested to get 1 and be 1 of the official blmclub member, do check out the fb page.. tonite at 9pm they will release 1100 - 1199... if u wanna get 1, make sure u know the procedure early and prepare whatever u need to prepare bcoz previously, the numbers r booked out only in 1 hour, i see the trend since 900 series..

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blink.gif Sick can go Genting somemore ah? But can try the Lan L gear, right?  brows.gif
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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 15 2012, 03:24 PM)
haze coming, u guys take care ar
look out windown from company, only can see 40-50% KLCC.
remember drink more plain warm water
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 15 2012, 03:30 PM)
this wan nice~!  thumbup.gif

and ur car nice too~!  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 15 2012, 03:28 PM)
some type of logo i keep in my pc currently
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


and this is my car pic..
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Added the logo and your car's pic thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 03:33 PM)
Genting has fresher air  icon_rolleyes.gif
Ugghhh...it's that time of the year already?  vmad.gif
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really hazy outside now.

below is the haze hot topic

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2388265
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post Jun 15 2012, 03:47 PM

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Added the logo and your car's pic  thumbup.gif
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Those who are joining the strut bar bulk, please check the second post for COD details. Let me know if you can make it on that day.
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I should be able to make it. Btw, COD = Call of Duty? laugh.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 11:32 AM)
Also, pls bank in a deposit to Mahihi for your merchandise, RM 70 for FSB, RM60 for RSB. I shall PM his bank account details to each of you, thanks!
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Wah, discount summore from RM 135 to RM 70? thumbup.gif

QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 15 2012, 03:28 PM)
and this is my car pic..
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One of the best mods I've seen on a Gaga thumbup.gif Love the stickers too rclxms.gif

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Wah, discount summore from RM 135 to RM 70? thumbup.gif

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Pay RM70 oni, get half a bar. You want left half or right half? brows.gif
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 15 2012, 04:13 PM)
I should be able to make it. Btw, COD = Call of Duty? laugh.gif
Wah, discount summore from RM 135 to RM 70? thumbup.gif
One of the best mods I've seen on a Gaga thumbup.gif Love the stickers too rclxms.gif
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bro, he saying deposit lar rclxub.gif
if both bar 70 +60 only, i sure instal it too laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 04:16 PM)
In your dreams  unsure.gif deposit oni mang

Pay RM70 oni, get half a bar. You want left half or right half?  brows.gif
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Hi. I'm new in this thread.


QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 11:32 AM)
3Max 4-point front strut bar
Bulk price RM135 (original RM150) - Minimum order for bulk price = 5 orders

1. dares
2. davidke20
3. Mieza
4. lhwj
5. huzaifa136
6. zukjka
7.

3Max 3-point rear strut bar
Bulk price RM120 (original RM130) - Minimum order for bulk price = 5 orders

1. davidke20
2.
3.
4.
5.

If more than 3 orders for both front and rear struts, total will be RM250
Bulk closing date - 15 June 2012.

refer to spoiler for the front strut bar installed in SiuYi's car (sorry SiuYi pls dun mind ph34r.gif)

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Strut bar COD TT
Date: 30th June 2012 (Saturday)
Time: 1:30pm


Those who are not in the bulk list are welcomed to join and TCSS + poison  brows.gif

Attendance:
1. Mahihi
2. dares
3. zukjka
4. r3apers
5.
6.


For those who cannot make it to COD with Mahihi, pls arrange separately with him to collect. Also, pls bank in a deposit to Mahihi for your merchandise, RM 70 for FSB, RM60 for RSB. I shall PM his bank account details to each of you, thanks!


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One of the best mods I've seen on a Gaga thumbup.gif Love the stickers too rclxms.gif
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Hi. I'm new in this thread.
I have no choice but to come.. aiyaa.. Pls pm bank details.. Thanks..
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shakehead.gif shakehead.gif


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Wait Strut bar COD TT only..?? No installation..??
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Wait Strut bar COD TT only..?? No installation..??
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shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 15 2012, 04:31 PM)
I'm new in V24.. Never post anything before  flex.gif
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thn u should congratz to the ts not new here...
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thn u should congratz to the ts not new here...
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Hi. I'm new in this thread.
I have no choice but to come.. aiyaa.. Pls pm bank details.. Thanks..
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Macam susah je nak datang hmm.gif

QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 15 2012, 04:31 PM)
installation very easy wan... mahihi pasang for u Free if not mistaken, and dont worry about the installation~!
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U install for her la brows.gif

QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 15 2012, 04:37 PM)
congratz to the ts not new  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 15 2012, 03:28 PM)
some type of logo i keep in my pc currently

and this is my car pic..
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Wah, this one damn gooding. Planning to apply some make-up on my stock Gaga as well. Already got permission from my wife, cuz pass 10,000km mark already tongue.gif

Will upload the pic for owner's picture once done smile.gif

p/s: My place got 3 FLX SE, include me 4. The aunty/uncle always drive so slow sad.gif Wanna change look to differentiate frm them
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 04:44 PM)
Macam susah je nak datang  hmm.gif
U install for her la  brows.gif
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latest FC report.

pumped 26liter for 339km (13km/liter)
city driving, most of the time RPM below 2.5k (2 adult + 1 kid)
I can feel a lot of improvement in FC as the car gain more milage.
now car clocked 2500km.

so far my family is happy with the car's performance
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QUOTE(mr_boonez @ Jun 15 2012, 04:49 PM)
latest FC report.

pumped 26liter for 339km (13km/liter)
city driving, most of the time RPM below 2.5k (2 adult + 1 kid)
I can feel a lot of improvement in FC as the car gain more milage.
now car clocked 2500km.

so far my family is happy with the car's performance
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why u all FC so good...

mine so lousy wan... cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 04:44 PM)
Macam susah je nak datang  hmm.gif
Blom dapat gaji.. poket kering sad.gif USJ banyak toll..


Added on June 15, 2012, 4:56 pmEh suddenly I remember you said want to do TT near to my house biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 15 2012, 04:55 PM)
Blom dapat gaji.. poket kering sad.gif USJ banyak toll..


Added on June 15, 2012, 4:56 pmEh suddenly I remember you said want to do TT near to my house biggrin.gif
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u dtg dari mana?
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 15 2012, 04:56 PM)
u dtg dari mana?
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QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 15 2012, 04:58 PM)
Bangi  icon_idea.gif  wub.gif
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from bangi which part? if not mistaken 2-4 tolls one way only rite?

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check in v24  rclxm9.gif
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Lambatnyerr hmm.gif


Added on June 15, 2012, 5:13 pm
QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 15 2012, 04:58 PM)
Bangi  icon_idea.gif  wub.gif
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Next time we TT at Kajang, satay yo!

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 05:11 PM)
Lambatnyerr hmm.gif


Added on June 15, 2012, 5:13 pm

Next time we TT at Kajang, satay yo!
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new TS belanja, yeah~ lust.gif
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 15 2012, 03:23 PM)
u wan sayang who 1st?  wub.gif  wub.gif
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itu LCLY FLX SE VT2 TS tak mau then no nid gib him wub.gif

QUOTE(creative zn @ Jun 15 2012, 03:26 PM)
Sad. My SA said FLX SE Red gonna take long time to restock. They also not sure can in before raya or not. I want before raya.  cry.gif
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huh? long time to restock? Today my showroom baru turun lori 1 unit. hmm.gif
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due to hazy, tonite dun lepak2 outside or else later get sick tongue.gif
going home earlier cool2.gif
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sorry off topic. wanna ask uols, where are uols staying a?
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 11:32 AM)
Strut bar COD TT
Date: 30th June 2012 (Saturday)
Time: 1:30pm


Laaa I thought tomorrow doh.gif

30 June I have reunion with my fren.. Mayb I will be late..
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haish, feelin' uneven because of the haze, thinking what happen to dear gf of mine back home. afraid will be covered with dust. already gone wash yesterday.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jun 15 2012, 05:28 PM)
sorry off topic. wanna ask uols, where are uols staying a?
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Can I know what for? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 15 2012, 05:14 PM)
huh? long time to restock? Today my showroom baru turun lori 1 unit. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 15 2012, 06:32 PM)
Laaa I thought tomorrow doh.gif

30 June I have reunion with my fren.. Mayb I will be late..
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why not we all have reunion with ur fren also? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jun 15 2012, 05:33 PM)
why not we all have reunion with ur fren also? biggrin.gif
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sleep.gif Beware! Ada Buaya kat sini.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 15 2012, 05:14 PM)
u.

itu LCLY FLX SE VT2 TS tak mau then no nid gib him wub.gif
huh? long time to restock? Today my showroom baru turun lori 1 unit. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 15 2012, 05:14 PM)
u.

itu LCLY FLX SE VT2 TS tak mau then no nid gib him wub.gif
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WOI

get a room ph34r.gif

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jun 15 2012, 05:28 PM)
sorry off topic. wanna ask uols, where are uols staying a?
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weol staying in Marehsia icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif


QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 15 2012, 05:32 PM)
Laaa I thought tomorrow doh.gif
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Wah so fast V24 already. Nice job bro dares. biggrin.gif
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can't make it for TT for 3max bar. going out of town
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 15 2012, 03:28 PM)
and this is my car pic..
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Whoah! da kar hou 9 lan 7 hensem wei!

QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 15 2012, 04:51 PM)
why u all FC so good...

mine so lousy wan...  cry.gif  cry.gif
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neeasing 11km/l average on 4AT sumore shout high petrol. I hooked up vacuum gauge, follow exactly above(below i mean) 10in/hg uncle dribing only TOUCH 11km/l shakehead.gif I'm the 1 who supposed to cry cry.gif

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anyone have saga 1.6 cvt?
if yes
please tell me how is the car with u and genral information about it like FC,acceleration,noisy....
many thanks
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QUOTE(darknight6070 @ Jun 15 2012, 05:57 PM)
anyone have saga 1.6 cvt?
if yes
please tell me how is the car with u and genral information about it like FC,acceleration,noisy....
many thanks
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Check FUELLY and study better

Normally different car/different person/different driving style all came up with different FC, besides road/traffic condition affect mileage pretty much. General idea is, read the #1 post is easier for you to understand nod.gif


Added on June 15, 2012, 6:16 pmLately always wake up late... yawn.gif Today finished work early, came home still got sun and found out...

user posted image
user posted image
user posted image
user posted image

blink.gif unsure.gif yawn.gif


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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 15 2012, 06:12 PM)
Check FUELLY and study better

Normally different car/different person/different driving style all came up with different FC, besides road/traffic condition affect mileage pretty much. General idea is, read the #1 post is easier for you to understand  nod.gif


Added on June 15, 2012, 6:16 pmLately always wake up late... yawn.gif Today finished work early, came home still got sun and found out...

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blink.gif  unsure.gif  yawn.gif
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Ur wifu did that?

If yes, *** gou che hui...

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 15 2012, 06:12 PM)
Lately always wake up late... yawn.gif Today finished work early, came home still got sun and found out...

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1st 2 pic is normal
the 3rd one is pretty serious
1st 2 pic is wear and tear as u drive
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thanks for your replay (davidke20)
is the photo for new saga???
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thanks for your replay (davidke20)
is the photo for new saga???
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No, his is a BLM.

Pls read my blog as well to get my experience driving the FLX SE.


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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 15 2012, 06:50 PM)
Ur wifu did that?

If yes, *** gou che hui...
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Err... regardless whether she did it, I still tew 7 her laugh.gif , if I don't she's probably start asking whether I'm havin an affair out there sweat.gif That's why I say lar, if I "nut" the car, sure it get worse.

QUOTE(darknight6070 @ Jun 15 2012, 07:32 PM)
thanks for your replay (davidke20)
is the photo for new saga???
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Itu BLM, year 2010 older model ady. Nak gambar FLX, pi google sudah. Banyaknyerrr
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David, your Falken tires is what model?

Just now saw a first gen Kancil, driven by a young lady, corner like a boss shocking.gif shocking.gif .

Followed me through a 90 degrees turn with impressive speed, lost her for a while when going up a slope. Then on the next S-curve I encountered traffic, and she blew pass me on the right lane blink.gif Not a turbo kancil, BTW, still can hear the high pitch sound from her stock engine.

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ok thanks
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dares,pm me mahihi account.
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ah? now with 'show off ur saga' section ah?
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dares,pm me mahihi account.
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To everyone in the bulk list, UGPM.

QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 15 2012, 09:23 PM)
ah? now with 'show off ur saga' section ah?
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Come show off yours brows.gif
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there u go~

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 15 2012, 09:29 PM)
there u go~

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siuyi main cold air intake yo~ hahahah... mine is hot air sucker.. hahahaha...

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QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Jun 15 2012, 09:34 PM)
Nice intake setup.. nod.gif
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 15 2012, 09:42 PM)
siuyi main cold air intake yo~ hahahah... mine is hot air sucker.. hahahaha...

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was just showing the 3max front strut ler..huai so serious? nod.gif
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Guys 2009 Saga BLM, comes with 3 year warranty for other parts and engine/gearbox - 5 years?
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jun 15 2012, 09:58 PM)
Guys 2009 Saga BLM, comes with 3 year warranty for other parts and engine/gearbox - 5 years?
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Is it under EON Warranty or Proton Edar Warranty?
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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jun 15 2012, 10:13 PM)
Is it under EON Warranty or Proton Edar Warranty?
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Under proton edar...Receipt said my BLM SE will "expire" in 4 months. The service advisor said just 3 years warranty for all (even the shock absorbers are covered). I remember it was 5 years for engine, gearbox.

Recently just service 20k - total RM440++ (ATF, coolant, spark plugs etc) , yes very low mileage took nearly 3 years, sticking to 5k km/3 months OCI as advised by an authorised dealer SC.
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Suddenly eveyone go missing again.

I dun think Proton offers 5 year warranty for their cars before Preve. Your extra 2 years might be under EWP which is covered by your insurance company, not Proton.
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IINM, before this, 5 years warranty only offered by Proton EON dealers in collaboration with insurance company.
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 16 2012, 12:02 AM)
Suddenly eveyone go missing again.

I dun think Proton offers 5 year warranty for their cars before Preve. Your extra 2 years might be under EWP which is covered by your insurance company, not Proton.
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Eh? I've seen old Waja and Gaga LMST with "5 Years Warranty" on the number plate holder hmm.gif
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Here is a little story of what happened when I was away after dinner.

Just now when I was testing my "brand new" hai flow drop in filter(thanks to dares). After Damansara Perdana, approaching PJTC curving to the right heading LDP toll plaza, I down shift & did a double de-clutch to keep my RPM hai before I taking the right corner. Clean suction sound, hai RPM, everything seems to be just nice & I was enjoying the powerful induction sound and pulling myself apart on the stock suspensions. Whilst the speed climbs and ready to shift up, I engaged 4 gear, declutch & full throttle. Suddenly the car loss power, RPM climbs until rev cut. I try to release to neutral and reengage, same thing as if the gear box is not there. My heart had broken in to zillion pieces, I thought I broke the gear box cry.gif

I had no choice but to stop at the road side and wait for assistance. I called up magician and he adviced to give it few minutes to cool down and try again. Normally gearbox doesn't just knock out like that. So I rested the car for about 15 minutes, start my engine and WOW! The gear box came alive! But then, happiness doesn't last long as I engaged 2nd gear, the clutch slip became obvious. I had to shift to 3rd gear and drive below 40kmh to maintain momentum. RPM is farkin up and down inconsistently even-though I'm driving at the same speed.

Finally reach one of my friend's workshop(not the best) quite nearby, immediately we hook the car up dismantle the gearbox to see wtf is going on.

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Look carefully, can you see where is the clutch pad?! Or you only see steel sheets hanging there?!

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The other side of the clutch, still have very thin layer of clutch pad running on my flywheel, until I double de-clutched it and finally the thin layer of clutch pad couldn't take it anymore and snapped!

Ladies & gentlemen, this is what I call a "clutch eruption" or 爆極力子. You may do maintenance on the car. You may service your brakes, change your brake fluid, engine oil, radiator coolant, tires, suspension, any other thing that make your car as safe as possible... but nobody will check your clutch sweat.gif

It seems like every month there is always something happen to take my hard earned money away moneyflies.gif

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David, your Falken tires is what model?

Just now saw a first gen Kancil, driven by a young lady, corner like a boss  shocking.gif  shocking.gif .

Followed me through a 90 degrees turn with impressive speed, lost her for a while when going up a slope. Then on the next S-curve I encountered traffic, and she blew pass me on the right lane  blink.gif Not a turbo kancil, BTW, still can hear the high pitch sound from her stock engine.
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Tayar... hmm.gif ... don't know. Something like 229 blink.gif Sorry mate, haven't really sit down and read what is on the tyre wall. Only thing I can remember is 55 tayar will get sagat on BLM.

I have a Kancil 660 also. I can do 0-60miles in 3.8minutes, don't ask me what I mod to the car, because I'll only tell you I've changed to open pod but that's it. cool2.gif

QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 16 2012, 12:11 AM)
Eh? I've seen old Waja and Gaga LMST with "5 Years Warranty" on the number plate holder hmm.gif
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EWP bro. Not many is doing it now due to rampant warranty claims.
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Another interesting, but unfortunate story. Guess a replacement clutch will cost a few hundred?

What's your mileage again? If I'm not mistaken it's only about half of mine? Any chance of the previous owner trashing the clutch?

I double-declutch all my downshifts. It's a habit I picked up while learning to drive this Gaga (my first manual tranny car) because I read that it'll save wear and tear on the tranny synchronisers. But I wonder if that's at the expense of increased wear and tear on the clutch. So far my clutch's bite is still pretty strong, I don't need to rev up when starting up slopes.

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Is this on your "new" Wira?
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 16 2012, 01:59 AM)
Another interesting, but unfortunate story. Guess a replacement clutch will cost a few hundred?

What's your mileage again? If I'm not mistaken it's only about half of mine? Any chance of the previous owner trashing the clutch?

I double-declutch all my downshifts. It's a habit I picked up while learning to drive this Gaga (my first manual tranny car) because I read that it'll save wear and tear on the tranny synchronisers. But I wonder if that's at the expense of increased wear and tear on the clutch. So far my clutch's bite is still pretty strong, I don't need to rev up when starting up slopes.
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No it's not my BLM, its a 2001 Plotong Fila 1.3 VDO fuel injection project car. Just trying to tell people don't take things as granted, as the clutch itself is ONE OF MANY things that TERomit to check during service, and therefore wear and tear may not made known.

Wear & tear on clutch is more severe for DD and H&T drivers indeed, but there are no proof of saving the synchronizers. I seldom do H&T nowadays as seldom keep hai RPM(unless test driving/trashing/ricing). However, I still do DD to all my cars. Reason being, I don't like to clutch the damn car during corner, I rather use engine brake as I can accelerate anytime, otherwise I'll just maintain 20in/hg throughout the whole corner.

My case of eruption is because of the harsh acceleration after clutched nod.gif If I drive smoothly, think can still last another year with the clutch disc grinding my flywheel sweat.gif So, its a good thing that it breakdown now, instead of after 1 year then found out my flywheel is scratched and need to be replaced.

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 16 2012, 02:49 AM)
Is this on your "new" Wira?
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Yes. The thing is damn awesome. Thank you very much. Again I oiled it up with WD40, took out the original and replaced with it. It sounded pretty good. Can't seem to save petrol, as it sounded too good, everytime I hook up with the car I'll go full throttle tongue.gif
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Hi morning everyone.

Last to 2days I go to work like I usually do. But when I want to go back suddenly my steering become a bit heavy. I realise that it is difficult to turn to left compare to right. After that I go to pump station to isi angin all the tires. But the the problem still occur. I wonder what happen sad.gif

How to explain this.. Usually after turn into junction I will let my steering go straight by itself.. But now my steering become difficult to do so.. I mean after u pusing2 steering, you will let your steering to pusing2 sndri until it become straight..

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Guys, any recommendation on the car grooming accessories that I can use to clean up the grease and stain in the car engine part ? .. since the mechanics don't really recommend me to go for engine wash. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(HughieRmX @ Jun 16 2012, 11:09 AM)
Guys, any recommendation on the car grooming accessories that I can use to clean up the grease and stain in the car engine part ? .. since the mechanics don't really recommend me to go for engine wash. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 16 2012, 10:24 AM)
Hi morning everyone.

Last to 2days I go to work like I usually do. But when I want to go back suddenly my steering become a bit heavy. I realise that it is difficult to turn to left compare to right. After that I go to pump station to isi angin all the tires. But the the problem still occur. I wonder what happen sad.gif

How to explain this.. Usually after turn into junction I will let my steering go straight by itself.. But now my steering become difficult to do so.. I mean after u pusing2 steering, you will let your steering to pusing2 sndri until it become straight..
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Steering pump? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 16 2012, 12:00 PM)
Toothbrush, cloth soaked into mild soap water. And tons of diligence.


Added on June 16, 2012, 12:02 pm

Steering pump? hmm.gif
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Got it ! .. smile.gif
Anything else I can grab from the shelves of supermarket (ie. AEON Car department)
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QUOTE(HughieRmX @ Jun 16 2012, 11:09 AM)
Guys, any recommendation on the car grooming accessories that I can use to clean up the grease and stain in the car engine part ? .. since the mechanics don't really recommend me to go for engine wash. unsure.gif
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Hi...
If not worried abt how clean engine looks, not need 2wash engine wan... tongue.gif

Nvr washed all my old rides (last one for 20+ yrs) and no probs! rclxm9.gif
If need be, juz use compressed air & blow arnd engine. Good enuf! icon_rolleyes.gif

If no oil leaks, engine shld b reasonably clean. rolleyes.gif
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Steering not turning back, could be worn off steering bush. I know you'll say your car only 1 month old, but its all depend on luck & also driving style + road condition. Please send back for warranty, if no warranty, pls send to Kemuning Utama Teoh Brothers Toyo Tyre, look for 4eyed uncle say recommended by YauYip. 2 pieces of silicone steering bush RM80! Precise cornering, extreme in response! Haily recommended! Am a satisfied + happy customer, and 100% not affiliated.


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QUOTE(HughieRmX @ Jun 16 2012, 11:09 AM)
Guys, any recommendation on the car grooming accessories that I can use to clean up the grease and stain in the car engine part ? .. since the mechanics don't really recommend me to go for engine wash. unsure.gif
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listen to your mechanic...else u will regret
or do it by hand yourself...thats the safest
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 16 2012, 12:21 PM)
Hi...
If not worried abt how clean engine looks, not need 2wash engine wan...  tongue.gif

Nvr washed all my old rides (last one for 20+ yrs) and no probs!  rclxm9.gif
If need be, juz use compressed air & blow arnd engine. Good enuf!  icon_rolleyes.gif

If no oil leaks, engine shld b reasonably clean.  rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 16 2012, 12:45 PM)
listen to your mechanic...else u will regret
or do it by hand yourself...thats the safest
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Got it guys ... seems like majority votes goes to the NO engine wash .. smile.gif
Will do it myself with plain cloth and soap .. thanks a bunch !
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QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 16 2012, 10:24 AM)
Hi morning everyone.

Last to 2days I go to work like I usually do. But when I want to go back suddenly my steering become a bit heavy. I realise that it is difficult to turn to left compare to right. After that I go to pump station to isi angin all the tires. But the the problem still occur. I wonder what happen sad.gif

How to explain this.. Usually after turn into junction I will let my steering go straight by itself.. But now my steering become difficult to do so.. I mean after u pusing2 steering, you will let your steering to pusing2 sndri until it become straight..
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Corner too ganas? hmm.gif hmm.gif


Added on June 16, 2012, 1:39 pmAnyway, some updates to the strut bars...

Mahihi will be taking us to the factory for installation from the USJ Esso petrol station, instead of us DIY or him installing for us. Installation is already included in the price.

Also, here's a more more complete picture of the front strut bar

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As you see, the additional 2-points are fixed to the fenders, not the firewall. I couldn't find any FSB for BLM Saga that are tied to the firewall, so I guess it is still a step up from a 2-point FSB (and still cheaper than UR icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif ).

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 16 2012, 01:31 PM)

Added on June 16, 2012, 1:39 pmAnyway, some updates to the strut bars...

Mahihi will be taking us to the factory for installation from the USJ Esso petrol station, instead of us DIY or him installing for us. Installation is already included in the price.

Also, here's a more more complete picture of the front strut bar
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As you see, the additional 2-points are fixed to the fenders, not the firewall. I couldn't find any FSB for BLM Saga that are tied to the firewall, so I guess it is still a step up from a 2-point FSB (and still cheaper than UR  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif ).
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Actually it seems like a 6 point bar, because there are two points on the strut tower and one point on the fender for each side icon_idea.gif

Hope the brake fluid reservoir cap doesn't get in the way though hmm.gif

I can't wait rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 16 2012, 02:44 PM)
Actually it seems like a 6 point bar, because there are two points on the strut tower and one point on the fender for each side icon_idea.gif

Hope the brake fluid reservoir cap doesn't get in the way though hmm.gif

I can't wait rclxm9.gif
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If like that is 6-point, then UR also 4-point dy laugh.gif

I was wondering how it would fixed on the firewall, so I went to check my engine bay last nite and googled more pictures. Then only I realize it is fixed on the fender instead, so it makes more sense now blush.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 16 2012, 12:45 PM)
listen to your mechanic...else u will regret
or do it by hand yourself...thats the safest
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QUOTE(HughieRmX @ Jun 16 2012, 12:52 PM)
Got it guys ... seems like majority votes goes to the NO engine wash .. smile.gif
Will do it myself with plain cloth and soap .. thanks a bunch !
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What problem? laugh.gif If wash already too clean ka? I wash it once a month icon_idea.gif

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Just to show off my free waxed bling² ISWAGA, meanwhile just so ngam a familiar number ahead laugh.gif Don't get angry, just making fun nia blush.gif

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It does looks like cloth hanger to me blink.gif

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 16 2012, 05:33 PM)
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What problem? laugh.gif If wash already too clean ka? I wash it once a month icon_idea.gif
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heres some tip to u

the engine bay aren't suppose to be in contact with water
the engine is there, the electronics are all there..its extremely NOT recommended
u wash it once a month thn better prepare $$$ for repair

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Dayyum.. Didnt know that.. I wash my engine bay every month... Since day 1 of my car...
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 16 2012, 05:57 PM)
heres some tip to u

the engine bay aren't suppose to be in contact with water
the engine is there, the electronics are all there..its extremely NOT recommended
u wash it once a month thn better prepare $$$ for repair
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Thanks dude for sharing laugh.gif I've been doing this to all my cars since 1997 laugh.gif kinda fall in love with clean engine bay. Can't help it nod.gif So far nothing much serius happen to ma car besides of wear & tear... Choi!!! Touch wood laugh.gif


Added on June 16, 2012, 6:51 pmP/s: until 1 day I broke my car because of engine wash, then I'll stop washing laugh.gif

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 16 2012, 06:47 PM)
Thanks dude for sharing laugh.gif I've been doing this to all my cars since 1997 laugh.gif kinda fall in love with clean engine bay. Can't help it nod.gif So far nothing much serius happen to ma car besides of wear & tear... Choi!!! Touch wood laugh.gif


Added on June 16, 2012, 6:51 pmP/s: until 1 day I broke my car because of engine wash, then I'll stop washing laugh.gif
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my dad had done it once thn won't try again
he ask someone to wash it(that time no knowledge) thn after that can't start already...few attempts only can start
thn never tried again
thn after that know that to wash the engine, its a specified knowledge...cannot just blast water into it
my saga's engine bay also dirty, even the mechanic at the workshop also said that but he also agree that its better to be dirty thn faulty
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Carb cars can wash, EFI...better not. Too many electronic parts. Bust a O2 sensor and you putih putih pay a few hundred bucks to diagnose and fix it.

Personally, I Just wipe it with car shampoo. Takes longer and more work, but no worries I cant start my car later.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 16 2012, 07:12 PM)
my dad had done it once thn won't try again
he ask someone to wash it(that time no knowledge) thn after that can't start already...few attempts only can start
thn never tried again
thn after that know that to wash the engine, its a specified knowledge...cannot just blast water into it
my saga's engine bay also dirty, even the mechanic at the workshop also said that but he also agree that its better to be dirty thn faulty
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To me, I'm more afraid of going through a puddle laugh.gif At least wash engine I know the important parts ady covered. But during rainny season, you're not covering your intake before you start your car aik shakehead.gif Wash engine is piece a cake, much easier than driving in heavy rain smile.gif
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I tink my car facing the IAFM tak tak sound during coldstart. what i wanna noe is if its not fixed, will it cause major damage? what are the effects of it? more severe throttle lag?

how much is the replacement at SC? cos i never service my car at SC after 10k.. guess my warranty is void.
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biggrin.gif some minor stuff we did today on a BLM

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the rear changed the stock frame to R3 too tongue.gif


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QUOTE(17osm17 @ Jun 16 2012, 09:20 PM)
I tink my car facing the IAFM tak tak sound during coldstart. what i wanna noe is if its not fixed, will it cause major damage? what are the effects of it? more severe throttle lag?

how much is the replacement at SC? cos i never service my car at SC after 10k.. guess my warranty is void.
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the "tak tak" sound is just annoying only
not gonna affect anything
how old is your car already?


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if the saga is a M-line..where would u install the switch for the DRL thn?

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May I know where's a recommended place to noise insulate Saga? any good workshop to put noise insulation material on all sides (door, roof, floor, etc.)?
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QUOTE(revived_irfan @ Jun 16 2012, 10:34 PM)
May I know where's a recommended place to noise insulate Saga? any good workshop to put noise insulation material on all sides (door, roof, floor, etc.)?
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best one would be the firewall but quite difficult to do thus more expensive
other places should be the doors and the hood
roof no need, floor already have
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 16 2012, 10:51 PM)
best one would be the firewall but quite difficult to do thus more expensive
other places should be the doors and the hood
roof no need, floor already have
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what cockery is this?


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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 16 2012, 09:30 PM)
the "tak tak" sound is just annoying only
not gonna affect anything
how old is your car already?
2 years +
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 16 2012, 10:53 PM)
what cockery is this?
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floor not already have the carpet?
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 16 2012, 11:39 PM)
floor not already have the carpet?
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The carpet is thin sweat.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 16 2012, 11:39 PM)
floor not already have the carpet?
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The carpet is no better than the fabric covering your roof. Neither are soundproof or sound deadening material. The effect is minimal, if any smile.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 16 2012, 11:39 PM)
floor not already have the carpet?
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go to an ICE competition with a car without any soundproofing at the floor and roof and you cant even last the first round. lol
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cuz mine got replaced and its quite thick

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How time flies, 20 years later will anybody come back and see an actual review of an S16? nod.gif
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apa nie? again ebibodi went for lunch ka? yawn.gif

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busy. research paper due in 5 days time.

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apa nie? again ebibodi went for lunch ka? yawn.gif

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ades...wash liaw car baru take photo mar... biggrin.gif
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Anyone notice Petron petrol station near Proton COE?
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QUOTE(zukjka @ Jun 17 2012, 02:39 PM)
Anyone notice Petron petrol station near Proton COE?
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 17 2012, 02:00 PM)
busy. research paper due in 5 days time.
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itu petron is ex esso station hia? so many in klang valley liaw..


Added on June 17, 2012, 3:38 pmini punya syarikat~

http://www.petron.com/

and patutlah...

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?artic...ubCategoryId=66

itu company from Philippines very powderful wei..now aiming thailand's esso liaw.. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 17 2012, 02:12 PM)
ades...wash liaw car baru take photo mar... biggrin.gif
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Wash liao mar... last month... laugh.gif No lah, my car involved in many minor² scratches & accidents by wifu, injury eberywey. I still wash the car eberyweek, just can't find a proper angle to snap a nice foto for it, so cincai find an old profiling foto I took 2 months ago lo.

Last month foto is this 1
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 17 2012, 03:37 PM)
itu petron is ex esso station hia? so many in klang valley liaw..


Added on June 17, 2012, 3:38 pmini punya syarikat~

http://www.petron.com/

and patutlah...

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?artic...ubCategoryId=66

itu company from Philippines very powderful wei..now aiming thailand's esso liaw.. hmm.gif
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What am I supposed to do with my ESSO card? Still can redeem point mou? Sorry didn't read news
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 17 2012, 03:05 PM)
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still got 5 days ma. I did not start my final year project report until 36 hours before the deadline  icon_idea.gif
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minus all the time for appointments, classes and 2 assessment tests, I have roughly 38 hours to complete a 10 page research paper.

Pakai size 10 TNR fonts pulak tu. YA ALLAH. sleep.gif


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What am I supposed to do with my ESSO card? Still can redeem point mou? Sorry didn't read news
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The last time I pump Rm40, they swipe my card but it wont register... sad.gif

Dunno issit sistem down during that time or Smiles card are no longer usable now... sad.gif

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 17 2012, 04:37 PM)
Wash liao mar... last month... laugh.gif  No lah, my car involved in many minor² scratches & accidents by wifu, injury eberywey. I still wash the car eberyweek, just can't find a proper angle to snap a nice foto for it, so cincai find an old profiling foto I took 2 months ago lo.

Last month foto is this 1
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What am I supposed to do with my ESSO card? Still can redeem point mou? Sorry didn't read news
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no longer applicable kot. but the esso at seri kembangan still with ESSO signboard. the one at jalan utama close down and became PETRON la..seems like still there are some leftover ESSO & MOBIL in msia..
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pump air according to the insruction but my tyre still look.. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 17 2012, 04:43 PM)
minus all the time for appointments, classes and 2 assessment tests, I have roughly 38 hours to complete a 10 page research paper.

Pakai size 10 TNR fonts pulak tu. YA ALLAH. sleep.gif

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 17 2012, 04:43 PM)
The last time I pump Rm40, they swipe my card but it wont register... sad.gif

Dunno issit sistem down during that time or Smiles card are no longer usable now... sad.gif
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Well, on the brighter side of the buy out is tremendous, let's hope they bring in the entire pinoy culture as well

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QUOTE(mizynee @ Jun 17 2012, 05:15 PM)
pump air according to the insruction but my tyre still look.. rclxub.gif

any idea? cause im worried.. blush.gif
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The weight of the engine pressing down the tires and cause the thick tire sidewalls flex outwards, nothing to worry about.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 17 2012, 05:24 PM)
Good luck with the paper
Well, on the brighter side of the buy out is tremendous, let's hope they bring in the entire pinoy culture as well


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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 17 2012, 04:43 PM)
minus all the time for appointments, classes and 2 assessment tests, I have roughly 38 hours to complete a 10 page research paper.

Pakai size 10 TNR fonts pulak tu. YA ALLAH. sleep.gif

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Kasi dia double spacing brows.gif
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Kasi dia double spacing brows.gif
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single spacing
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R&R clearly stated from day 1. -.-

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R&R clearly stated from day 1. -.-
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Random visit just to say good luck mate. rclxms.gif
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Need some advise~~~

im going to out a 2nd hand blm share with my bro...

i do some research at mudah this 2 car not bad....
blm 1.3 reg10 30-35k mil
http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Saga+1+3+M+hi+line-15995865.htm
i like the out look

another 1 is 1.6... with woofer gps 16ich sport rim
but a simple out look
http://www.mudah.my/Proton%20Saga%201.6%20...htm#xtor=AD-32-[16094525]

1.3 and 1.6 much different?
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argh!!! mah ais!!!! the petron kaki bola tampar supa not sexy...
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QUOTE(banoriginal @ Jun 17 2012, 08:06 PM)
Need some advise~~~

im going to out a 2nd hand blm share with my bro...

i do some research at mudah this 2 car not bad....
blm 1.3 reg10 30-35k mil
http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Saga+1+3+M+hi+line-15995865.htm
i like the out look

another 1 is 1.6... with woofer gps 16ich sport rim
but a simple out look
http://www.mudah.my/Proton%20Saga%201.6%20...htm#xtor=AD-32-[16094525]

1.3 and 1.6 much different?
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IINM Saga BLM 1.6 only came in red color and has "1.6" emblem at the rear... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jun 17 2012, 08:14 PM)
IINM Saga BLM 1.6 only came in red color and has "1.6" emblem at the rear...  hmm.gif
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omg.... thn mean that title 1.6 is tipu 1 loh
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No need to get 1.6.

1.3 also good biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(banoriginal @ Jun 17 2012, 08:06 PM)
Need some advise~~~

im going to out a 2nd hand blm share with my bro...

i do some research at mudah this 2 car not bad....
blm 1.3 reg10 30-35k mil
http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Saga+1+3+M+hi+line-15995865.htm
i like the out look

another 1 is 1.6... with woofer gps 16ich sport rim
but a simple out look
http://www.mudah.my/Proton%20Saga%201.6%20...htm#xtor=AD-32-[16094525]

1.3 and 1.6 much different?
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Seriously flen, 1.3 vs 1.6 not much of a difference in terms of powah outfut. Take note BLM doesn't launch consumer unit, may be converted from taxi, beware of super wear & tear.

if u buy used BLM, atleast get a full spec 1.3. I'm a little regret to save 2/3k from the purchase price & get a kosong car. Comes to think of it, sportrims alone ady cost me a bomb... Further that, did asked about the door lining for GaGa, original will cost 200+ shocking.gif Any other OEM also cost arnd 150+

Last but not least, air bag is an essential safety feature. You can never trust an after market/later add on air bag to your car. If you get a kosong spec, u never know whether the air bag deployed before laugh.gif if you found the air bag deployed before, will you still buy it? brows.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 17 2012, 08:28 PM)
Seriously flen, 1.3 vs 1.6 not much of a difference in terms of powah outfut. Take note BLM doesn't launch consumer unit, may be converted from taxi, beware of super wear & tear.

if u buy used BLM, atleast get a full spec 1.3. I'm a little regret to save 2/3k from the purchase price & get a kosong car. Comes to think of it, sportrims alone ady cost me a bomb... Further that, did asked about the door lining for GaGa, original will cost 200+ shocking.gif  Any other OEM also cost arnd 150+

Last but not least, air bag is an essential safety feature. You can never trust an after market/later add on air bag to your car. If you get a kosong spec, u never know whether the air bag deployed before laugh.gif if you found the air bag deployed before, will you still buy it? brows.gif
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erm... the 1st one 1.3 for me out look not bad ad... full spec mean ? rim? woofer? radio?
sorry noob in car....

how to check the air bag deployed or not?

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Can send the car to Proton COE for full inspection of the safety systems like Airbag. They can tell whether airbag deployed or have been changed before.

Inspection charges, I don't know sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jun 17 2012, 08:43 PM)
Can send the car to Proton COE for full inspection of the safety systems like Airbag. They can tell whether airbag deployed or have been changed before.

Inspection charges, I don't know  sweat.gif
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so mafan 1 a.....
nowadays buy a 2nd hand car so dangerous 1 mie?
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QUOTE(banoriginal @ Jun 17 2012, 08:06 PM)
Need some advise~~~

im going to out a 2nd hand blm share with my bro...

i do some research at mudah this 2 car not bad....
blm 1.3 reg10 30-35k mil
http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Saga+1+3+M+hi+line-15995865.htm
i like the out look

another 1 is 1.6... with woofer gps 16ich sport rim
but a simple out look
http://www.mudah.my/Proton%20Saga%201.6%20...htm#xtor=AD-32-[16094525]

1.3 and 1.6 much different?
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1.6? that doesnt look like a 1.6 to me.
1) 1.6 no silver BLM pun.
2) in terms if he is 1.6, but converted? strocker kit convert? but not stated in statement.why?
3) i think he resprayed the 1.6. it is a B-line. but the side mirror and handles are silver as well
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IMO, I prefer 2nd hand car with stock engine and stock transmission. If engine sounds good, gear shifting smooth, ok already smile.gif
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 17 2012, 08:49 PM)
1.6? that doesnt look like a 1.6 to me.
1) 1.6 no silver BLM pun.
2) in terms if he is 1.6, but converted? strocker kit convert? but not stated in statement.why?
3) i think he resprayed the 1.6. it is a B-line. but the side mirror and handles are silver as well
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ok.... skip the 1.6 saga...
what do u think about the 1.3 ?? rm24k
worth?
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QUOTE(banoriginal @ Jun 17 2012, 08:52 PM)
ok.... skip the 1.6 saga...
what do u think about the 1.3 ?? rm24k
worth?
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say...my friend sold his 2008 saga M-line for 17k, so lets get into math.

24-17 = 7k

normally agent takes minimum 5k commission for each car. so to ejas back, there is another 2k around there. so maybe they took in the ride for 19k previously coz it is an 2009 unit, not 2008. from the photos, it looks fine, with airmaster bodykit, stock rims and tyres summore. from the looks, no major modification was done on the ride, just simple add-on pimp for the exterior. the mileage doesnt display anything to me though..

so, if 24k is ok for u, then it is just the price, maybe u can try nego rm2k over? lalalal~
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 17 2012, 09:01 PM)
say...my friend sold his 2008 saga M-line for 17k, so lets get into math.

24-17 = 7k

normally agent takes minimum 5k commission for each car. so to ejas back, there is another 2k around there. so maybe they took in the ride for 19k previously coz it is an 2009 unit, not 2008. from the photos, it looks fine, with airmaster bodykit, stock rims and tyres summore. from the looks, no major modification was done on the ride, just simple add-on pimp for the exterior. the mileage doesnt display anything to me though..

so, if 24k is ok for u, then it is just the price, maybe u can try nego rm2k over? lalalal~
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 16 2012, 12:40 PM)
Steering not turning back, could be worn off steering bush. I know you'll say your car only 1 month old, but its all depend on luck & also driving style + road condition. Please send back for warranty, if no warranty, pls send to Kemuning Utama Teoh Brothers Toyo Tyre, look for 4eyed uncle say recommended by YauYip. 2 pieces of silicone steering bush RM80! Precise cornering, extreme in response! Haily recommended! Am a satisfied + happy customer, and 100% not affiliated.
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What Kemuning? Haha I'm going to work at kemuning starting next month..

Back to topic. OMG cry.gif can claim warranty? Do I need to wait for 5k service? About 2k to go. Or I need to send as fast as possible?

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 16 2012, 01:31 PM)
Corner too ganas?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
No la.. I rase terlanggar tembok unsure.gif this morning cuci my car, found bottom front bumper calar already shakehead.gif


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What am I supposed to do with my ESSO card? Still can redeem point mou? Sorry didn't read news
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 16 2012, 02:52 PM)
If like that is 6-point, then UR also 4-point dy  laugh.gif

I was wondering how it would fixed on the firewall, so I went to check my engine bay last nite and googled more pictures. Then only I realize it is fixed on the fender instead, so it makes more sense now  blush.gif
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Look at the pic of Siuyi u provided, i also can't figure out where the point on firewall...now the pic is clear, and i dun think the fender is hard enough for this purpose (fender is one of the crumple zone), but of course better than none. So i will go for UR in a month time, no choice.

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i duno why u people asyik say fender fender fender. fender is the piece of metal outside the frame. the other 2 points is screwed at the frame of the chasis which is also the same screw to fix the fenders. so the point is at the CHASIS, not FENDERS.

ada faham korang ni?
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i duno why u people asyik say fender fender fender. fender is the piece of metal outside the frame. the other 2 points is screwed at the frame of the chasis which is also the same screw to fix the fenders. so the point is at the CHASIS, not FENDERS.

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im not very clear with this strut formation thingy. but all i know is, 2 points on the suspension bush points, and 2 point at the chasis frame. chasis frame solid or not at the side i duno, crash zone is everywhere on a BLM that i know. even if u dun have a fender, u still can screw the 2 points at the frame there.

However, if someone is going to compare between 3max and UR, i got no comments. everything got pro and con. same goes to UTR, C-TECH, and etc..steel and aluminium..u believe that what ur paying does the job and worth the buck, go ahead. it is ur car, ur safety, ur money.

no hard feeling peeps. everyone got their point, just that whichever point suits ur mind, that will be ur decision making point.

cheers. peace. goodnight~
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The strut bar makes the car more stable during cornering? Then what's the difference for 3 point and 4 point?

And btw guys, dark blue got solid and metallic version? I saw solid dark blue in the showroom but no metallic but saw some metallic one online. So just to clarify. Thanks.
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The strut bar makes the car more stable during cornering? Then what's the difference for 3 point and 4 point?

And btw guys, dark blue got solid and metallic version? I saw solid dark blue in the showroom but no metallic but saw some metallic one online. So just to clarify. Thanks.
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For the bulk order peeps

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It hook at the strut, the extra point hook at the hood hinge

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Reduce chassis flex just like any other strut bar. You may not notice it because it basically doesn't affect your daily driving as you wouldn't pull 1.5G side drift. I use it more of a tool to protect the shape of my chassis over long term.

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Regardless aggressive corner attack, or normal daily driving kena batu/masuk longkang, strut bar is there to maintain your strut distance

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Some said strut bar make your car total loss. If the side impact happened to be able to transfer load to the other side of the strut via a strut bar, that accident itself did total loss your car, be it with or without a strut bar. Without the strut bar on the same accident, the same amount of force will transfer to your a-pillar, directly pull your roof down, and your car still total loss(and you could die because of that). With the strut bar, there is a greater chance you survive, as part of the impact force got transferred to the otherside of the strut tower, and ofcourse the car STILL total loss.

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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Jun 17 2012, 11:54 PM)
The strut bar makes the car more stable during cornering? Then what's the difference for 3 point and 4 point?

And btw guys, dark blue got solid and metallic version? I saw solid dark blue in the showroom but no metallic but saw some metallic one online. So just to clarify. Thanks.
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I thought the only solid colour is white, all the rest are metallic? hmm.gif

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 18 2012, 12:00 AM)
Some said strut bar make your car total loss. If the side impact happened to be able to transfer load to the other side of the strut via a strut bar, that accident itself did total loss your car, be it with or without a strut bar. Without the strut bar on the same accident, the same amount of force will transfer to your a-pillar, directly pull your roof down, and your car still total loss(and you could die because of that). With the strut bar, there is a greater chance you survive, as part of the impact force got transferred to the otherside of the strut tower, and ofcourse the car STILL total loss.
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I agree.

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 17 2012, 08:28 PM)
Seriously flen, 1.3 vs 1.6 not much of a difference in terms of powah outfut.
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Found 1.3 vs 1.6 powah and torge graf here.

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 17 2012, 11:39 PM)
im not very clear with this strut formation thingy. but all i know is, 2 points on the suspension bush points, and 2 point at the chasis frame. chasis frame solid or not at the side i duno, crash zone is everywhere on a BLM that i know. even if u dun have a fender, u still can screw the 2 points at the frame there.

However, if someone is going to compare between 3max and UR, i got no comments. everything got pro and con. same goes to UTR, C-TECH, and etc..steel and aluminium..u believe that what ur paying does the job and worth the buck, go ahead. it is ur car, ur safety, ur money.

no hard feeling peeps. everyone got their point, just that whichever point suits ur mind, that will be ur decision making point.

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Why la so emo? I say fender because it is easier to understand, of course the strut bar is not tied to the flimsy outer shell of the car la. If not I'll have to say "that part of chassis on the side of the engine bay behind the strut tower".

Any additional reinforcement members must be tied to the chassis, else there is no point, be it 3Max, UR, Cusco or whatever.

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 18 2012, 12:14 AM)
Found 1.3 vs 1.6 powah and torge graf here.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 18 2012, 12:39 AM)
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Take note though, this is for 1.6 and 1.3 IAFM. IAFM+ should be slightly different.
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 12:43 AM)
Mane ade broken sleep.gif

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Take note though, this is for 1.6 and 1.3 IAFM. IAFM+ should be slightly different.
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 12:33 AM)
Why la so emo? I say fender because it is easier to understand, of course the strut bar is not tied to the flimsy outer shell of the car la. If not I'll have to say "that part of chassis on the side of the engine bay behind the strut tower".

Any additional reinforcement members must be tied to the chassis, else there is no point, be it 3Max, UR, Cusco or whatever.
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i no shoot u bro. i generalize things. coz some of them mistaken ur fender as in really unto the fender. so i have to provide a clearer description which is the chasis frame, not fenders. i dun wan mis communication among knowledge that can be a flame in future. nod.gif

QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jun 18 2012, 12:03 AM)
Ultra Racing got bulk?  whistling.gif
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UR bulk price is everywhere now. but ah..
1. not to be sarcastic, u sure u want strut bar? u not listen ur mech say it is not worth to have one?
2. u not blmclub member? not prosboc member? i tot UR bulk is available for both at the moment, just price tag haven fix.

cheers. no hard feeling bro. just curious and asked.
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 12:52 AM)
i no shoot u bro. i generalize things. coz some of them mistaken ur fender as in really unto the fender. so i have to provide a clearer description which is the chasis frame, not fenders. i dun wan mis communication among knowledge that can be a flame in future. nod.gif
UR bulk price is everywhere now. but ah..
1. not to be sarcastic, u sure u want strut bar? u not listen ur mech say it is not worth to have one?
2. u not blmclub member? not prosboc member? i tot UR bulk is available for both at the moment, just price tag haven fix.

cheers. no hard feeling bro. just curious and asked.
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No hard feelings bro, I never tot ppl might misunderstand. Thanks for clearing it up for me smile.gif
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No hard feelings bro, I never tot ppl might misunderstand. Thanks for clearing it up for me  smile.gif
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someone did mis-understood, if u read back. LOL.
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 12:57 AM)
someone did mis-understood, if u read back. LOL.
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You mean coolkwc? I think he also understood that it is tied to the chassis, but he meant that that part of the chassis is part of the crumple zone and migt not be as stiff as the firewall hmm.gif

I am not sure if that area is part of the designated crumple zone, so I cant say whether he is correct.

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 18 2012, 12:39 AM)
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http://epicsaga.com.my/pdf/sagafl_1.6_brochure.pdf

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 12:43 AM)
Mane ade broken sleep.gif

Take note though, this is for 1.6 and 1.3 IAFM. IAFM+ should be slightly different.
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Thanks for the fix. The comparison was for the guy earlier who was looking at Mudah ads for a secondhand model. I'm not sure if the taxi 1.6 is the IAFM version. It probably is.

I'm pretty surprised the tork for the 1.3 IAFM is pretty flat between 2,000 and 3,000 RPM. So I guess if you want moar pulling power, forget about 3k and tekan sampai 4k RPM whistling.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 12:59 AM)
You mean coolkwc? I think he also understood that it is tied to the chassis, but he meant that that part of the chassis is part of the crumple zone and migt not be as stiff as the firewall hmm.gif

I am not sure if that area is part of the designated crumple zone, so I cant say whether he is correct.
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i believe the whole saga is a crumple zone vehicle, no matter which direction, sure same effect. hmm.gif
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blmclub a lot of power hungry short-fused mods...

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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jun 18 2012, 01:10 AM)
blmclub a lot of power hungry short-fused mods...

prosboc more relaxed  thumbup.gif
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my question did not ask about ur opinion towards both clubs pun. no one paksa u join which club or hates u over which club u join. some statements u can keep in ur mind or share among ur peers, but not in public.

just an advice to everyone, how u give a statement about something shows the maturity of ur thinking towards something. not?
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 12:59 AM)
You mean coolkwc? I think he also understood that it is tied to the chassis, but he meant that that part of the chassis is part of the crumple zone and migt not be as stiff as the firewall hmm.gif

I am not sure if that area is part of the designated crumple zone, so I cant say whether he is correct.
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I'm no structural engineer, but looking at the pic Unker Dave posted, the point where the strut attaches to the chassis is pretty close to the firewall, so even if it's part of the crumple zone it's probably rigid enough to be the mounting point. Maybe when we visit the 3Max factory for installation we can see if the designer of the FSB for Gaga is available then we ask him icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:07 AM)
i believe the whole saga is a crumple zone vehicle, no matter which direction, sure same effect. hmm.gif
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Not that taufu la hahaha

Saga chassis is stiffer than persona, but not as stiff as exora and preve. Thats not saying much, probably flex.gif
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:14 AM)
my question did not ask about ur opinion towards both clubs pun. no one paksa u join which club or hates u over which club u join. some statements u can keep in ur mind or share among ur peers, but not in public.

just an advice to everyone, how u give a statement about something shows the maturity of ur thinking towards something. not?
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I can share whatever I want. Wrong or not, up to the public to debate and correct me icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 01:14 AM)
Not that taufu la hahaha

Saga chassis is stiffer than persona, but not as stiff as exora and preve. Thats not saying much, probably  flex.gif
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Ha? Stiffer than persona... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 01:14 AM)
Not that taufu la hahaha

Saga chassis is stiffer than persona, but not as stiff as exora and preve. Thats not saying much, probably  flex.gif
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never knew persona was less stiffer than saga for chasis rigidity...but i tot 1.6 has to have a better chasis build-up then a 1.3? from my understanding, 1.3-1.5 is one level, then 1.6-1.8 is another level. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 18 2012, 01:14 AM)
I'm no structural engineer, but looking at the pic Unker Dave posted, the point where the strut attaches to the chassis is pretty close to the firewall, so even if it's part of the crumple zone it's probably rigid enough to be the mounting point. Maybe when we visit the 3Max factory for installation we can see if the designer of the FSB for Gaga is available then we ask him icon_idea.gif
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I wont worry about it. There are FSBs that tie to the front of the vehicle pun. Thats crumple zone for you!
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 01:19 AM)
I wont worry about it. There are FSBs that tie to the front of the vehicle pun. Thats crumple zone for you!
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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jun 18 2012, 01:18 AM)
I can share whatever I want. Wrong or not, up to the public to debate and correct me  icon_rolleyes.gif

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Ha? Stiffer than persona... hmm.gif
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but from what i can sense that ur throwing a statement, not a discussion. u are providing a harsh conclusion and u are firm with ur stand. ur statement annoys certain people and u dun feel bad with that.

i might not be the right person to comment over anything. but at least a respect is required in a big forum like lyn. we dun argue to win a debate, but to work out for the solution or maybe a round conclusion which might solve our questions.
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:18 AM)
never knew persona was less stiffer than saga for chasis rigidity...but i tot 1.6 has to have a better chasis build-up then a 1.3? from my understanding, 1.3-1.5 is one level, then 1.6-1.8 is another level. hmm.gif
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nope. From economy point of view, that method is simply not feasible. Constructing and developing two different chassis with different structural rigidity for each 1.3 and 1.6 will eventually cost more than constructing and developing a single chassis which could be used for both 1.3 and 1.6.

Take the CZ9A Evo X and the current normal Lancer for instance. From the inception of the project, Mitsubishi developed the chassis from ground up for the Evo X in mind. Then they tone down on the looks, finishing and drivetrain to make it become a normal lancer. Both shares the same chassis and this in turn reduce costs and increase profitability as they can achieve a good economies of scale.
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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jun 18 2012, 01:18 AM)
Ha? Stiffer than persona... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:18 AM)
never knew persona was less stiffer than saga for chasis rigidity...but i tot 1.6 has to have a better chasis build-up then a 1.3? from my understanding, 1.3-1.5 is one level, then 1.6-1.8 is another level. hmm.gif
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Haha, the FLX SE should have stiffer chassis lor tongue.gif

Anyway, here's the source from the Preve thread:

QUOTE(mat79 @ May 3 2012, 09:55 AM)
when i said about rigid chasis, iinm, iswara@saga based torsion n bending rigidity around 7000nm, wira based around 9000nm, waja nearly 13000nm, gen2@persona more or less the same as waja with some revision at 13000nm, satria neo at 14000nm++, savvy based such saga 17000nm, exora 18000nm and preve at 19000nm added with 12 parts hpf reinforcement that double up the strength of ahss using boron steel which is lighter than ahss. The less surge feeling not only due to engine tuning, but also chasis refinement as u can see above.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ May 3 2012, 10:02 AM)
yup,saga is stronger than waja coz waja platform is old one. U can check euroncap marks on front n side collision, compare with saga ancap frontal n side collision marks.

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 01:19 AM)
I wont worry about it. There are FSBs that tie to the front of the vehicle pun. Thats crumple zone for you!
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i canot believe max auto did a stupid thing to advertize...

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:24 AM)
but from what i can sense that ur throwing a statement, not a discussion. u are providing a harsh conclusion and u are firm with ur stand. ur statement annoys certain people and u dun feel bad with that.

i might not be the right person to comment over anything. but at least a respect is required in a big forum like lyn. we dun argue to win a debate, but to work out for the solution or maybe a round conclusion which might solve our questions.
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:30 AM)
i canot believe max auto did a stupid thing to advertize...

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 01:30 AM)
Haha, the FLX SE should have stiffer chassis lor  tongue.gif

Anyway, here's the source from the Preve thread:
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that solve my confuse due to a 1.3 car using a 1.6 engine with a question mark in my mind..how can that 1.3 car body sustain a 1.6 engine power stress? as what i understand 660-1.2 is 1 level, 1.3-1.5 is 1 level, 1.6-1.8 is 1 level, then 2.0-2.4 is the final level for normal cars..

economical efficiency, make sense.cut cost to be exact. hmm.gif


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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jun 18 2012, 01:34 AM)
If anyone feels threaten or annoyed by my statements, that's their problem  rolleyes.gif

It's a subjective matter, let's continue via PM if you want  icon_rolleyes.gif  notworthy.gif
Now this is what I call competition  shakehead.gif
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no thanks bro. i always remind myself to be low profile and less club-sist or less hyper-clubbing. means not to put much effort or heart towards a club which has no long term returns, except finding new friends.

we give and take. u also dun wan involve in much quarrel also. let's get the fact that we dun like war. so let's just remind each other to respect each other,k?

cheers. nod.gif

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Though I did remember that for the first Satria models the 1.3 chassis wasn't as strong as the 1.8 GTi's? I think that is one of the exceptions. Let me see if I can dig up stuff on it.

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 01:30 AM)
Haha, the FLX SE should have stiffer chassis lor  tongue.gif

Anyway, here's the source from the Preve thread:
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Waja Vs Saga S16





But for Saga, side impact video not available doh.gif
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 18 2012, 01:39 AM)
Though I did remember that for the first Satria models the 1.3 chassis wasn't as strong as the 1.8 GTi's? I think that is one of the exceptions. Let me see if I can dig up stuff on it.
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tat is different. if im not wrong, satria was derived from wira, and wira was derived from lancer. so make sense if that body can sustain 1.8 coz it was lancer at the start, just hatch-backed.
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:35 AM)
no thanks bro. i always remind myself to be low profile and less club-sist or less hyper-clubbing. means not to put much effort or heart towards a club which has no long term returns, except finding new friends.

we give and take. u also dun wan involve in much quarrel also. let's get the fact that we dun like war. so let's just remind each other to respect each other,k?

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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jun 18 2012, 01:46 AM)
I respect all of you, except for one short-fused person  rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:44 AM)
tat is different. if im not wrong, satria was derived from wira, and wira was derived from lancer. so make sense if that body can sustain 1.8 coz it was lancer at the start, just hatch-backed.
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Eh the Satria was from the 5th gen Mitsubishi Colt but it's probably very similar to the Lancer which the Wira was based on. I'm not really familiar with the older Potong models.

PS look at the current Colt, really looks like a mini Lancer from the front laugh.gif

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 18 2012, 01:51 AM)
Eh the Satria was from the 5th gen Mitsubishi Colt but it's probably very similar to the Lancer which the Wira was based on. I'm not really familiar with the older Potong models.

PS look at the current Colt, really looks like a mini Lancer from the front laugh.gif

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 18 2012, 01:51 AM)
Eh the Satria was from the 5th gen Mitsubishi Colt but it's probably very similar to the Lancer which the Wira was based on. I'm not really familiar with the older Potong models.
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all different name (Lancer, Colt, Mirage) but all shares common platform (chasis) "CC"
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:51 AM)
like i said, give and take. forgive, forget and live on. our religion doesnt teach us to practice hatred, right?
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all different name (Lancer, Colt, Mirage) but all shares common platform (chasis) "CC"
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IINM, the Satria GTi had chassis enhancements. Therefore a stronger chassis compared to the other Satrias. It was, afterall, meant to be an enthusiast car.
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:53 AM)
eh u serious? satria can fully convert to evo front part wei..that 1 can convert or not?
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IINM, the Satria GTi had chassis enhancements. Therefore a stronger chassis compared to the other Satrias. It was, afterall, meant to be an enthusiast car.
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That's what the above link says.
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pity wei,ikat to firewall,when accident then my firewall mah gone?? cry.gif cry.gif

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If anyone feels threaten or annoyed by my statements, that's their problem  rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:35 AM)
no thanks bro. i always remind myself to be low profile and less club-sist or less hyper-clubbing. means not to put much effort or heart towards a club which has no long term returns, except finding new friends.

we give and take. u also dun wan involve in much quarrel also. let's get the fact that we dun like war. so let's just remind each other to respect each other,k?

cheers. nod.gif
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IINM, the Satria GTi had chassis enhancements. Therefore a stronger chassis compared to the other Satrias. It was, afterall, meant to be an enthusiast car.
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Chassis can not be enhanced, its molded that way according to the design, and thats it.

QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 18 2012, 02:05 AM)
I dunno ler whistling.gif

Anyways, I found this
That's what the above link says.
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Err... perhaps this is again another MISunderstanding. There are no changes on the chassis between 1.3,1.5,1.6 and 1.8 engine Satria. Satria GTi indeed improved on the SUSPENSION, include lighten/strengthen lower arm, harder suspension, brakes and any other detachable foot work equipment.

V12k is partially right about the chassis thingy, if you read the chassis code you may find most vehicle share the same chassis. Such as dugong family changes Chassis more often back in the old days, KE10(60's), KE20(early 70's), KE30(late 70's), KE70(late 70's). More of your familiar starting from 80's is KM36(Toyota hiace... WTF?! uses the chasis back in 70's)?! Thats why those car can really DRIFT, because the stiffness of the chassis + lorry type leaf spring suspension! shakehead.gif

After that, Dugong decided to ditch rear wheel power and go FF. Started with AE80(I assume you watch Initial D AE86 is the only and latest modern Toyota rear wheel drive before ALTEZZA). Later, AE has been roaring on the road for another 20+ years before Altis taking over, which all the Toyota become Dugong from that day onwards. All tall² and fat², very comfortable. notworthy.gif

For Mitshi.... CP9A, CP7A....all the while uses same chassis shakehead.gif Ebo 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,78,8,89,9,65,245,235,2352,345,2345,4132 looks like they're not going to change FOREBER!!!!
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 18 2012, 06:46 AM)
V12k is partially right about the chassis thingy, if you read the chassis code you may find most vehicle share the same chassis. Such as dugong family changes Chassis more often back in the old days, KE10(60's), KE20(early 70's), KE30(late 70's), KE70(late 70's). More of your familiar starting from 80's is KM36(Toyota hiace... WTF?! uses the chasis back in 70's)?! Thats why those car can really DRIFT, because the stiffness of the chassis + lorry type leaf spring suspension! shakehead.gif

After that, Dugong decided to ditch rear wheel power and go FF. Started with AE80(I assume you watch Initial D AE86 is the only and latest modern Toyota rear wheel drive before ALTEZZA). Later, AE has been roaring on the road for another 20+ years before Altis taking over, which all the Toyota become Dugong from that day onwards. All tall² and fat², very comfortable. notworthy.gif

For Mitshi.... CP9A, CP7A....all the while uses same chassis shakehead.gif  Ebo 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,78,8,89,9,65,245,235,2352,345,2345,4132 looks like they're not going to change FOREBER!!!!
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Unker, before anyone comments on the chassis part, I want to point out that Dugong specifically refers to the current gen Vios car only, NOT TOYOTA OR THEIR OTHER CARS sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 17 2012, 09:51 PM)
What Kemuning? Haha I'm going to work at kemuning starting next month..

Back to topic. OMG cry.gif can claim warranty? Do I need to wait for 5k service? About 2k to go. Or I need to send as fast as possible?
No la.. I rase terlanggar tembok  unsure.gif  this morning cuci my car, found bottom front bumper calar already  shakehead.gif


Added on June 17, 2012, 9:58 pm

I saw almost 3 Mobil become Petron.. But Esso still Esso..
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Better send for checkup asap. U nvr know whether it affaect your tyre wear, dun wait until later tayar makan sebelah. Not sure whether got warranty since bushing is consider wear & tear. Good luck.

QUOTE(avengers88 @ Jun 17 2012, 11:54 PM)
The strut bar makes the car more stable during cornering? Then what's the difference for 3 point and 4 point?
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No, strut bar doesn't make much affect to driving experience. It may improve track time 0.2seconds/lap, provided professional driving skill + damn a lot os tight hairpin curve presents. Otherwise you'll feel exactly no change. According to my previous experience, if all 3 bars(front strut, rear strut & room bar) installed, hai speed cornering become very stiff. No room for mistake or the car easier to spin. No idea whether placebo or real effect.

For example, when you hit the right apex, roll on the curb to achieve efficient lap time:

With chassis flex, the left suspension will be able to continue adjust & absorb any extra movement.

Without chassis flex, suspension will not be able to absorb extra movement, the oversteer situation become under as rejected by the apex curb. Driver will have to continue adjust steering wheel to keep the car at the most efficient racing line!

However, the above situation ONLY applicable when you attacking corner with enough G-Force to bend your chassis, otherwise your car should feel exactly the same with/without strut bar, may be felt extra few hundrad grams heavier with the strut bar.

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 08:20 AM)
Unker, before anyone comments on the chassis part, I want to point out that Dugong specifically refers to the current gen Vios car only, NOT TOYOTA OR THEIR OTHER CARS  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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I know,I'm saying the dugong family
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Evo mana ada use same chassis? Sometimes automakers will still name their chassis closely to their predecessor, like Evo it starts from CD9A (E1), then CE9A (E2 & E3), CN9A (E4), CP9A (E5 & E6), CT9A (E7,8,9) and finally CZ9A (E10).

Even the new R35 GT-R although is the continuation of the legendary 1990s Nissan Skyline GT-R series (R32-R24), it doesn't share the same chassis. Its chassis is unique and therefore it has a different name to it. CBA-R35. Older Skyline GT-R are BNR3x

And the dugong doesn't have any family. LOL
It was created to slot into the market in the early 2000s when the Corolla has grown big and became more expensive. It doesn't have any deep roots like its Corolla big brother.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 18 2012, 09:28 AM)
Evo mana ada use same chassis? Sometimes automakers will still name their chassis closely to their predecessor, like Evo it starts from CD9A (E1), then CE9A (E2 & E3), CN9A (E4), CP9A (E5 & E6), CT9A (E7,8,9) and finally CZ9A (E10).

Even the new R35 GT-R although is the continuation of the legendary 1990s Nissan Skyline GT-R series (R32-R24), it doesn't share the same chassis. Its chassis is unique and therefore it has a different name to it. CBA-R35. Older Skyline GT-R are BNR3x

And the dugong doesn't have any family. LOL
It was created to slot into the market in the early 2000s when the Corolla has grown big and became more expensive. It doesn't have any deep roots like its Corolla big brother.
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Thanks for inputing the rest, as I previously mentioned PARTIAL truth.

I know BNR series from NIGGAN smile.gif All built for GT purpose! UNsurprisingly, Cefiro A31 can accommodate the entire body of R31 laugh.gif this is another partial truth of using old chassis to produce newer model vehicle? hmm.gif (No comment, just my own opinion)

Dugong family is a myth to me, as I stop playing with TOYOGA since 2004, not following anymore. Again, thanks for updating. Love thy AE series old corollas.

Thanks again V12k for the great input.
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platform sharing wink.gif

The R31 Skyline shares the same platform with Nissan Laurel. The Skyline are meant to be a more sporty saloon while the Laurel is the one with more wood and velvet. When the Asian market in need of a new big saloon to battle the camry and accord the Skyline doesn't suit most of the buyer profile (old, mustache, you imagine), so Nissan just take the laurel, "cheapskate it" and put in a slightly sportier body to become the A31 Nissan Cefiro.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 18 2012, 09:59 AM)
platform sharing wink.gif

The R31 Skyline shares the same platform with Nissan Laurel. The Skyline are meant to be a more sporty saloon while the Laurel is the one with more wood and velvet. When the Asian market in need of a new big saloon to battle the camry and accord the Skyline doesn't suit most of the buyer profile (old, mustache, you imagine), so Nissan just take the laurel, "cheapskate it" and put in a slightly sportier body to become the A31 Nissan Cefiro.
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Wuakakakakakkakaka laugh.gif now that explained everything. Meaning that indeed A31 evolved from the R31, which inconjunction also platform sharing with the taxi Laurel laugh.gif In order to tackle market, same platform developed different type of vehicle to supply market demand, for example:

Late 70's Laurel(widely turned into yellow+black roof taxi back in 90's), more of a president type of elegance executive mersilis knockoff for 50 year old pakcik

Early 80's, motor sports roaring and R30 was born(didn't know it took chassis from Laurel). Stuff in new engine, strip off the velvet+wooden interior, shed off few kg and make it a touring car!

Late 80's, after petrol crisis, no choise but to take off the powerful motor and replace with old propeller in-line 6 engine on the same platform. Again strip bear the R31/Laurel taxi and made it a fancy brand new Cefiro laugh.gif

Correct my statement if I put it in a wrong manner blush.gif Demit you know a lot of motorsport stuff before you born wei. TQVM on the useful info.

P/S: my Iswaga chassis is C21A - is a Lancer 1977 Racing Spirit! Sagria is PL1C, Colt/Mirage/Lancer! Lancer 2001 is CT9A, Ebo6 Tommy Makinen Edition also same. Buying Plotong Fira is like buying an Ebo with a small engine plonked in blink.gif Thanks for bring this matter up, for the 1st time I learn sooooooo many things in the thread :hail:
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I tot I very lek already coz this morning i sendiri cabut door panel and pasang balik sad.gif

Imma gonna sit in a corner and be quiet quiet...ph34r.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 10:57 AM)
I tot I very lek already coz this morning i sendiri cabut door panel and pasang balik sad.gif

Imma gonna sit in a corner and be quiet quiet...ph34r.gif
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Very lek ady. The 2nd day I got ma car ady broke 1 of the door panel mounting after I opened it to change the damaged by previous owner centre lock gun cry.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 17 2012, 01:33 PM)
apa nie? again ebibodi went for lunch ka? yawn.gif

user posted image

TS, please include my dugong wanna be foto flex.gif
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wow BLM TRD laugh.gif
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morning everyone wub.gif


Added on June 18, 2012, 11:29 ammy story today...
3 days parking same place without any driving, tis morning drive to work
and i realise small black ants invaded my car cry.gif icon_question.gif
wtf, 2nd time happened doh.gif
need to put under sun for few days again...

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 18 2012, 11:19 AM)
my story today...
3 days parking same place without any driving, tis morning drive to work
and i realise small black ants invaded my car  cry.gif  icon_question.gif
wtf, 2nd time happened  doh.gif
need to put under sun for few days again...
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identify their "path" or trail then sapu cinammon or pepper on their trail. This will annoy them and cause them to pindah rumah.


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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 18 2012, 11:19 AM)
wow BLM TRD  laugh.gif
nice  thumbup.gif

morning everyone  wub.gif
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That spoiler came together with the car nod.gif after kena sarcastic by Huzaifa:"Oh! Keta kau yg Dugong puteh tu?!" doh.gif I had no choice but to faster take it off.

The last time I did pest control was few years ago. Spray ubat anai-anai on the carpet, left the car window shut over night. Next day found all sorts of creature die outside laugh.gif cocroach la,lizard la, bugs la, many other things. But the car had to send for steam wash if not can't drive, the fume can kill me also. Overall, damn satisfied with RM15 cost of pest control icon_idea.gif until today nothing invade my ISWAGA anymore nod.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 18 2012, 12:04 PM)
identify their "path" or trail then sapu cinammon or pepper on their trail. This will annoy them and cause them to pindah rumah.
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thx for the info, last time i bought a pack of white powder (pesticides)
pour on the carpet and door side but stil need few days to get rid of it completely...
i wil try steal some pepper from my gf kitchen and "shoo" them way biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 18 2012, 12:08 PM)
That spoiler came together with the car nod.gif after kena sarcastic by Huzaifa:"Oh! Keta kau yg Dugong puteh tu?!" doh.gif I had no choice but to faster take it off.

The last time I did pest control was few years ago. Spray ubat anai-anai on the carpet, left the car window shut over night. Next day found all sorts of creature die outside laugh.gif cocroach la,lizard la, bugs la, many other things. But the car had to send for steam wash if not can't drive, the fume can kill me also. Overall, damn satisfied with RM15 cost of pest control icon_idea.gif until today nothing invade my ISWAGA anymore nod.gif
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ur car is zoo? shakehead.gif

hate it so much, put at shady place worry ant invasion and put under hot sun worry my car get heat stroke...

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moarning~
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3Max 4-point front strut bar
Bulk price RM135 (original RM150) - Minimum order for bulk price = 5 orders

1. dares
2. davidke20
3. Mieza-paid
4. lhwj-paid
5. huzaifa136-paid
6. zukjka
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if whoever that couldnt make it on saturday,and prefer to cod,sorry that i couldnt provide the installation due to i dun have the tools,and sorry,i wont risk the nut by using spanar,tq
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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 18 2012, 11:19 AM)
wow BLM TRD  laugh.gif
nice  thumbup.gif

morning everyone  wub.gif


Added on June 18, 2012, 11:29 ammy story today...
3 days parking same place without any driving, tis morning drive to work
and i realise small black ants invaded my car  cry.gif  icon_question.gif
wtf, 2nd time happened  doh.gif
need to put under sun for few days again...
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spoiler ver nice and beautiful, any place have sell it?
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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:10 PM)
3Max 4-point front strut bar
Bulk price RM135 (original RM150) - Minimum order for bulk price = 5 orders

1. dares
2. davidke20
3. Mieza-paid
4. lhwj-paid
5. huzaifa136-paid
6. zukjka
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if whoever that couldnt make it on saturday,and prefer to cod,sorry that i couldnt provide the installation due to i dun have the tools,and sorry,i wont risk the nut by using spanar,tq
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moarning~
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moarning~
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 18 2012, 01:06 PM)
moarning~! icon_rolleyes.gif
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moaning....
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Wadafook, what time already shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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Wadafook, what time already  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:10 PM)
3Max 4-point front strut bar
Bulk price RM135 (original RM150) - Minimum order for bulk price = 5 orders

1. dares
2. davidke20
3. Mieza-paid
4. lhwj-paid
5. huzaifa136-paid
6. zukjka
7.

if whoever that couldnt make it on saturday,and prefer to cod,sorry that i couldnt provide the installation due to i dun have the tools,and sorry,i wont risk the nut by using spanar,tq
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doh.gif
so who's not coming besides me? any option? other workshop know to install it?
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 02:20 PM)
Wadafook, what time already  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Jun 18 2012, 02:22 PM)
doh.gif
so who's not coming besides me? any option? other workshop know to install it?
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any workshop can install for u,if u appear any fren that have the adjustable type then will be better,spanar will make the tread of the nut gone, sweat.gif sweat.gif dun over paid too,if rm 10 oni let them do....or when u go sc borrow their tools..
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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Jun 18 2012, 02:22 PM)
doh.gif
so who's not coming besides me? any option? other workshop know to install it?
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its very easy to do if u had the correct tools to do it~!
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Hi All Bro,

I got some question because i saw some topic discuss about the Saga FLX overheat. may i know what is this problem actually ? because recently i am planning to buy the saga flx 1.6...
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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jun 18 2012, 02:29 PM)
any workshop can install for u,if u appear any fren that have the adjustable type then will be better,spanar will make the tread of the nut gone, sweat.gif  sweat.gif  dun over paid too,if rm 10 oni let them do....or when u go sc borrow their tools..
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 18 2012, 02:29 PM)
its very easy to do if u had the correct tools to do it~!
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then it's ok.. nut provided right? and doesn't need torque wrench?
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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Jun 18 2012, 03:06 PM)
then it's ok.. nut provided right? and doesn't need torque wrench?
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use back ori nut, torque wrench or multi-drive wrench is recommended... dont use open-end wrench or adjustable wrench....
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QUOTE(Noneluv @ Jun 18 2012, 03:05 PM)
Hi All Bro,

I got some question because i saw some topic discuss about the Saga FLX overheat. may i know what is this problem actually ? because recently i am planning to buy the saga flx 1.6...
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I've driven my 1.6 from KL to Ipoh at 120kmh - 140kmh, no overheat issues.

Like any other cars, driven sensibly, there should be no problems. The Saga is not a race car.
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 03:29 PM)
I've driven my 1.6 from KL to Ipoh at 120kmh - 140kmh, no overheat issues.

Like any other cars, driven sensibly, there should be no problems. The Saga is not a race car.
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icic...thanks your comment...
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 03:29 PM)
I've driven my 1.6 from KL to Ipoh at 120kmh - 140kmh, no overheat issues.

Like any other cars, driven sensibly, there should be no problems. The Saga is not a race car.
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true.. but above that 150-160, fuel consumption very high. last weekend from gambang to kl
early in the highway i drove till almost 160 and 1 bar will be gone only after 32km
where else if driven till at least 120kmh 1 bar can go further around 50-100km per bar.

mind u the cvt hv it's own cooler, not sure how fast it can overheat
>5k rpm for more than 2hrs?
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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Jun 18 2012, 04:01 PM)
true.. but above that 150-160, fuel consumption very high. last weekend from gambang to kl
early in the highway i drove till almost 160 and 1 bar will be gone only after 32km
where else if driven till at least 120kmh 1 bar can go further around 50-100km per bar.

mind u the cvt hv it's own cooler, not sure how fast it can overheat
>5k rpm for more than 2hrs?
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In my experience, best highway FC is at 90km/h - 110km/h. Once you go higher than 110km/h, the FC may increase instead.

you drive >5k RPM for 2 hrs, your engine might also overheat dy laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 05:10 PM)
In my experience, best highway FC is at 90km/h - 110km/h. Once you go higher than 110km/h, the FC may increase instead.

you drive >5k RPM for 2 hrs, your engine might also overheat dy  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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also, higher than 110km/h, changes kena loteri dengan polis trafik also higher...
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jun 18 2012, 04:16 PM)
also, higher than 110km/h, changes kena loteri dengan polis trafik also higher...
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jz after i slowed down because of the bar dropping too fast.. i saw a police sitting under the flyover with cam blink.gif
speed trap!

hopefully i won't receive a summon

speaking of bypass/touge.. my journey to muadzam i use kuala klawang road, very sunyi, bushes all over the road shoulders.. tight corners too..

went back to kl using lpt to cut travel time and less tension to overtake lorries

on the kuala klawang road, almost everytime attack corner feels like over the limit of this car
speed around 60-70.. tight bent summore

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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Jun 18 2012, 04:18 PM)
jz after i slowed down because of the bar dropping too fast.. i saw a police sitting under the flyover with cam  blink.gif
speed trap!

hopefully i won't receive a summon
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No summon, just love letter tongue.gif
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love letter from polis trafik woman, me can accept, but polis trafik man????
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QUOTE(Noneluv @ Jun 18 2012, 03:05 PM)
Hi All Bro,

I got some question because i saw some topic discuss about the Saga FLX overheat. may i know what is this problem actually ? because recently i am planning to buy the saga flx 1.6...
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where is the topic bro, can provide me the link? wan to know too
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Here is my FC experience since I've drove this FLX more than 35,000 KM in 10 months :

From KL - JB (300KM distance)

90~100 km/h, one bar >105KM
100~110 km/h, one bar >90KM
120~140 km/h, one bar >70~80KM
130~160 km/h, one bar > 50~65KM

Look at this, drove til 102 KM but still never drop one bar... brows.gif

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I've try speeding 140 km/h to 160 km/h for continuous 1 hour, so far, no overheat problem occur on CVT.
Maybe the CVT get cooler too because the cooler get more air during speeding.

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 18 2012, 05:06 PM)
Here is my FC experience since I've drove this FLX more than 35,000 KM in 10 months :

From KL - JB (300KM distance)

90~100 km/h, one bar >105KM
100~110 km/h, one bar >90KM
120~140 km/h, one bar >70~80KM
130~160 km/h, one bar > 50~65KM

Look at this, drove til 102 KM but still never drop one bar...  brows.gif

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I've try speeding 140 km/h to 160 km/h for continuous 1 hour, so far, no overheat problem occur on CVT.
Maybe the CVT get cooler too because the cooler get more air during speeding.
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great sharing from most senior flx user rclxms.gif
is this stock? and the high speed drive is it constant rpm?
coz mybe i'm not on constant rpm (trying to acceleration either to maintain speed uphill or
brake for slower cars and then accelerate again) which was not quite efficient

mine 1 bar for low 30km very high fc

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Hm, even me driving manual flx also get around 75 km per bar (driving 90-100kmh) after fill in full tank. great FC there getting 100+ km T_T

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QUOTE(riezzien @ Jun 18 2012, 05:20 PM)
Hm, even me driving manual flx also get around 75 km per bar (driving 90-100kmh) after fill in full tank. great FC there getting 100+ km T_T
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highway/long journey mar.. btw 100+ achievable for speed lower than 100kmh
interestingly i achieved that went drove from kb to kl via trunk road
which demand slower speed than that on highway
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 18 2012, 05:06 PM)
Here is my FC experience since I've drove this FLX more than 35,000 KM in 10 months :

From KL - JB (300KM distance)

90~100 km/h, one bar >105KM
100~110 km/h, one bar >90KM
120~140 km/h, one bar >70~80KM
130~160 km/h, one bar > 50~65KM

Look at this, drove til 102 KM but still never drop one bar...  brows.gif

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I've try speeding 140 km/h to 160 km/h for continuous 1 hour, so far, no overheat problem occur on CVT.
Maybe the CVT get cooler too because the cooler get more air during speeding.
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Mine BLM manual @ 3600rpm can do 140km for 1st bar and 120km for 2nd bar, so ur @ such low rpm should be if not better, equal my car FC. So still u need to control ur right foot... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 18 2012, 05:24 PM)
Mine BLM manual @ 3600rpm can do 140km for 1st bar and 120km for 2nd bar, so ur @ such low rpm should be if not better, equal my car FC. So still u need to control ur right foot... laugh.gif
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manual might still get the best fc compared to cvt and auto
if the driver knows the right time to shift and it hv good ratio between gears

on normal condition cvt is on par with manual coz not that many manual drivers
know how to get the most out of their manual car.

on manual tranny, there's also a lot of ways to experiment to get better mileage
cause it mostly depends on ur right foot.. whereas cvt depends mostly on computer to calculate the best ratio

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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Jun 18 2012, 05:41 PM)
manual might still get the best fc compared to cvt and auto
if the driver knows the right time to shift and it hv good ratio between gears

on normal condition cvt is on par with manual coz not that many manual drivers
know how to get the most out of their manual car.

on manual tranny, there's also a lot of ways to experiment to get better mileage
cause it mostly depends on ur right foot.. whereas cvt depends mostly on computer to calculate the best ratio
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Highway constant 3600rpm where need to shift gear one...
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 18 2012, 05:44 PM)
Highway constant 3600rpm where need to shift gear one...
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My BLM always 50km/bar, be it haiway or town driving blink.gif right foot ady super light coz menten above 10in/hg vacuum blink.gif it will be great if can get Luke to drive my car and finish my tank of petrol to see whether its car problem or driver problem blink.gif I've tried every possible way, still FC stands at 10-11km/l shakehead.gif kinda numb ady after 3 months suffer
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Okay, just filled up. Here's the trip summary for those who were following:

- Filled up full tank at Tapah last Wednesday, on the 13th

- Naik Cameron Highlands via Tapah road. My first time driving on the road but I did overtake slower vehicles on the way up. First bar dropped at 70 km.

- Turun via Simpang Pulai road, used PLUS for a short distance to Ipoh

- Did some driving around Ipoh. Moderate start-stop traffic.

- Drove on to Penang via PLUS. Highway was clear, cruised at 110 km/h

- Drove around Penang, about 30 km. Slight jam at Weld Quay.

- Car was not used from last Thursday till this afternoon. I did about 50 km on the Island just now.

Total distance is 415 km, on 30.140 litres, giving 7.3L/100km or 13.8 km/L.

PS I think my tyre pressures are 34 PSI front, 32 PSI rear.

QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 18 2012, 05:06 PM)
Look at this, drove til 102 KM but still never drop one bar... 
Done that before too, a long time ago. I think it was like 109 km or something. But seems like Coolkwc's Gaga is in even better shape than mine, I don't think I can' touch 140 km for the first bar rclxms.gif Or maybe his fuel level float is very biased towards the first few bars tongue.gif

QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Jun 18 2012, 05:23 PM)
highway/long journey mar.. btw 100+ achievable for speed lower than 100kmh
interestingly i achieved that went drove from kb to kl via trunk road
which demand slower speed than that on highway
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In my experience the most efficient speed on my Gaga is 80-90 km/h. Any faster and the air resistance saps more energy than necessary.

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 18 2012, 06:19 PM)
My BLM always 50km/bar, be it haiway or town driving blink.gif right foot ady super light coz menten above 10in/hg vacuum blink.gif it will be great if can get Luke to drive my car and finish my tank of petrol to see whether its car problem or driver problem  I've tried every possible way, still FC stands at 10-11km/l  kinda numb ady after 3 months suffer
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So you think my right foot is god-like laugh.gif notworthy.gif

I think you've tried very hard already, so something must be wrong with your Gaga, I don't know. Maybe the first owner did not break it in properly unsure.gif

Anyways, read this to see what the Gaga is capable of brows.gif
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Hi there, I wanna ask about service. My current mileage is 14,440KM, and the STICKER that SC stick at my car said next oil change is at 15,000KM meanwhile at the service booklet say at 20,000KM. which one should I follow? my last service is at 10,000KM.
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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Jun 18 2012, 05:18 PM)
great sharing from most senior flx user  rclxms.gif
is this stock? and the high speed drive is it constant rpm?
coz mybe i'm not on constant rpm (trying to acceleration either to maintain speed uphill or
brake for slower cars and then accelerate again) which was not quite efficient
mine 1 bar for low 30km very high fc
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yes, it's stock car.
for high speed, not always constant, sometime rev and sometime break...

QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Jun 18 2012, 05:23 PM)
highway/long journey mar.. btw 100+ achievable for speed lower than 100kmh
interestingly i achieved that went drove from kb to kl via trunk road
which demand slower speed than that on highway
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that one for highway, but on city drive, the factor not much, it was achievable for city drive too

QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 18 2012, 05:24 PM)
Mine BLM manual @ 3600rpm can do 140km for 1st bar and 120km for 2nd bar, so ur @ such low rpm should be if not better, equal my car FC. So still u need to control ur right foot... laugh.gif
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bro, manual always won auto/cvt la sweat.gif
btw, @ 3,600 RPM, my speed is around 155 km/h, i think if maintaining that without slowing down, maybe >120KM per bar achievable @ 3,600 RPM, the car feel smoother and the engine providing best efficiency power to it, i should try it next time hmm.gif
anyway, your FC really geng!! thumbup.gif
any modding done to your car? maybe fuel saver, lighten up the weight, air aerodynamic? tongue.gif

but you mention 1st bar 140KM, 2nd bar 120KM... maybe when come to 6th bar, it huge drop doh.gif
i said so because i got constant reduce for 1st to 4th bar (100++KM per bar), mean i got 500KM++ when it come to the last bar (might get 550KM++ when start to blink) brows.gif

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QUOTE(.:zep:. @ Jun 18 2012, 07:42 PM)
Hi there, I wanna ask about service. My current mileage is 14,440KM, and the STICKER that SC stick at my car said next oil change is at 15,000KM meanwhile at the service booklet say at 20,000KM. which one should I follow? my last service is at 10,000KM.
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 18 2012, 07:59 PM)
yes, it's stock car.
for high speed, not always constant, sometime rev and sometime break...
that one for highway, but on city drive, the factor not much, it was achievable for city drive too
bro, manual always won auto/cvt la  sweat.gif
btw, @ 3,600 RPM, my speed is around 155 km/h, i think if maintaining that without slowing down, maybe >120KM per bar achievable @ 3,600 RPM, the car feel smoother and the engine providing best efficiency power to it, i should try it next time  hmm.gif
anyway, your FC really geng!!  thumbup.gif
any modding done to your car? maybe fuel saver, lighten up the weight, air aerodynamic?  tongue.gif

but you mention 1st bar 140KM, 2nd bar 120KM... maybe when come to 6th bar, it huge drop  doh.gif
i said so because i got constant reduce for 1st to 4th bar (100++KM per bar), mean i got 500KM++ when it come to the last bar (might get 550KM++ when start to blink)   brows.gif
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Normally i travel from JB -> Ipoh, i fuel it full at Skudai, i only refuel when reach Ipoh, total mileage is about 520km. blink.gif

Of course i'm slow poke, always done 110km/h only, becos poorfag scare love letter from police.

But honestly since i bought my car, you nv saw even a post from me that complaint about high FC of this car, when i saw u guys post <10km/L, i'm like speechless and just keep diam diam only. Maybe my driving style? or i'm lucky to get a low FC engine? i'm not sure, dun shoot me, my full tank (mostly 33.XL) won't go down 350km even once, normally >400km/tank at normal city drive.

Driving style, shift @ 2.5-3k RPM, that's it. Sometimes get challenge red line all the way, but only few sec, won't kill FC so much.

Anyway, no fuel saver in my car or any other mod, just a K&N drop in, and 5W30 FS oil, and tell u, Petronas 95. wink.gif

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 18 2012, 09:23 PM)
Normally i travel from JB -> Ipoh, i fuel it full at Skudai, i only refuel when reach Ipoh, total mileage is about 520km. blink.gif

Of course i'm slow poke, always done 110km/h only, becos poorfag scare love letter from police.

But honestly since i bought my car, you nv saw even a post from me that complaint about high FC of this car, when i saw u guys post <10km/L, i'm like speechless and just keep diam diam only. Maybe my driving style? or i'm lucky to get a low FC engine? i'm not sure, dun shoot me, my full tank (mostly 33.XL) won't go down 350km even once, normally >400km/tank at normal city drive.

Driving style, shift @ 2.5-3k RPM, that's it. Sometimes get challenge red line all the way, but only few sec, won't kill FC so much.

Anyway, no fuel saver in my car or any other mod, just a K&N drop in, and 5W30 FS oil, and tell u, Petronas 95. wink.gif
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u can be hyper-milling sifu ni rclxms.gif <cc: davidke20>
it's driving style in kl, stuck in traffic jam and aircond at highest temp
for manual car, if u drag the gear too long it'll consume more fuel
that's why one must get to the highest gear as fast as possible and as condition allows

i've nvr driven manual blm so nvr knew optimum shift point
but if i ever drive a manual, it'll be based on the engine sound hmm.gif

question is does our sense correct? if wrong then that's the problem of high fc

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 03:29 PM)
I've driven my 1.6 from KL to Ipoh at 120kmh - 140kmh, no overheat issues.

Like any other cars, driven sensibly, there should be no problems. The Saga is not a race car.
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 18 2012, 09:23 PM)
Normally i travel from JB -> Ipoh, i fuel it full at Skudai, i only refuel when reach Ipoh, total mileage is about 520km. blink.gif

Of course i'm slow poke, always done 110km/h only, becos poorfag scare love letter from police.

But honestly since i bought my car, you nv saw even a post from me that complaint about high FC of this car, when i saw u guys post <10km/L, i'm like speechless and just keep diam diam only. Maybe my driving style? or i'm lucky to get a low FC engine? i'm not sure, dun shoot me, my full tank (mostly 33.XL) won't go down 350km even once, normally >400km/tank at normal city drive.

Driving style, shift @ 2.5-3k RPM, that's it. Sometimes get challenge red line all the way, but only few sec, won't kill FC so much.

Anyway, no fuel saver in my car or any other mod, just a K&N drop in, and 5W30 FS oil, and tell u, Petronas 95. wink.gif
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go and look at the back of your car again.

You sure it doesnt say "myvi"? tongue.gif

another runaway FC discussion....next topic pls icon_idea.gif

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another runaway FC discussion....next topic pls icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Jun 18 2012, 10:08 PM)
<cc: davidke20>

I think there's nothing wrong with his right foot or driving style. It's the car. There's quite a bit of difference between his Gaga BLM and Iswaga's consumption on Fuelly, if you notice.
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that's why one must get to the highest gear as fast as possible and as condition allows

Generally, that is the rule I practice, but make sure you have enough torque to climb uphill or accelerate to merge with traffic. With the low ratio Aichi Kikai gearbox though, the car is pretty forgiving if a high gear is incorrectly selected.
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i've nvr driven manual blm so nvr knew optimum shift point
but if i ever drive a manual, it'll be based on the engine sound  hmm.gif

question is does our sense correct? if wrong then that's the problem of high fc
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For maximum fuel economy I shift according to the meters, not by feel. I can drive by feel too, but your senses are subjective and could be inaccurate. The meters never lie, unless they've malfunctioned. But you do need a good senses too, for example when to coast downhill (in gear, of course), when to coast so that you'll stop ngam ngam right behind the car in front with minimal brake application at a traffic queue.

And of course, if you drive a manual car with really good NVH, you can't really feel the car so you gotta refer back to your meters icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Jun 18 2012, 10:08 PM)
u can be hyper-milling sifu ni  rclxms.gif  <cc: davidke20>
it's driving style in kl, stuck in traffic jam and aircond at highest temp
for manual car, if u drag the gear too long it'll consume more fuel
that's why one must get to the highest gear as fast as possible and as condition allows

i've nvr driven manual blm so nvr knew optimum shift point
but if i ever drive a manual, it'll be based on the engine sound  hmm.gif

question is does our sense correct? if wrong then that's the problem of high fc
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Sense? Even my left foot can't trust my right foot with DbW. What else can go wrong by strictly following 10~20in/hg vacuum(-0.3~-0.6bar)

user posted image

Really given up jor. Until I found a way to hit 500km/tank, then only I'll talk about it again.
yawn.gif enough FC lar... I'm going to bed, until next topic yawn.gif
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you guys know any good proton service center around subang? i went for my 1k service at ss14, the mechanic is a SOB
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but last time u got a good fc also right? or at least normal fc
if i'm not mistaken the picture with 3/4 bar left with 2xx km?

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QUOTE(feikeigod2020 @ Jun 18 2012, 11:46 PM)
you guys know any good proton service center around subang? i went for my 1k service at ss14, the mechanic is a SOB
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 18 2012, 11:32 PM)
Just let me wrap this up first yah notworthy.gif

I think there's nothing wrong with his right foot or driving style. It's the car. There's quite a bit of difference between his Gaga BLM and Iswaga's consumption on Fuelly, if you notice.
yeah.. true also. i forgot he also hv vacuum meter which is even better than rpm meter

QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 18 2012, 11:32 PM)
Generally, that is the rule I practice, but make sure you have enough torque to climb uphill or accelerate to merge with traffic. With the low ratio Aichi Kikai gearbox though, the car is pretty forgiving if a high gear is incorrectly selected.

For maximum fuel economy I shift according to the meters, not by feel. I can drive by feel too, but your senses are subjective and could be inaccurate. The meters never lie, unless they've malfunctioned. But you do need a good senses too, for example when to coast downhill (in gear, of course), when to coast so that you'll stop ngam ngam right behind the car in front with minimal brake application at a traffic queue.

And of course, if you drive a manual car with really good NVH, you can't really feel the car so you gotta refer back to your meters icon_idea.gif
previously i nvr care about fc, jz when people saying that campro fc is bad
i want to figure it out as now i owns a proton with campro.

my previous car was civic eg 1.5 carb sohc non vtec, inherited from my dad
nvr care about fc tho.. when felt challenged, i drove like i stole it.

can't rmmber any hyper-milling action on that car tongue.gif

regarding saga i also nvr experience dbw on clutch.. i'll probably stalled it more often laugh.gif


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QUOTE(feikeigod2020 @ Jun 18 2012, 11:46 PM)
you guys know any good proton service center around subang? i went for my 1k service at ss14, the mechanic is a SOB
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so far only went to 2 sc, mutiara damansara and section 13 pj
for me section 13 is better than mutiara damansara.

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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Jun 18 2012, 11:48 PM)
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but last time u got a good fc also right? or at least normal fc
if i'm not mistaken the picture with 3/4 bar left with 2xx km?
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Well, sometimes it tricked me. When I was happily see the trip meter went to 200+ km whilst still doing 3 box, then the rest of the box will quickly run dry. Again, maxed the tank at 300+ km. yawn.gif Now I don't even bother la. Sometimes 30km already 1 box gone, but it will still last up to 280km~300km. blink.gif
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like this ok ar? blink.gif
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like this ok ar?  blink.gif
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Added on June 19, 2012, 12:33 amor this

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=faq&article=7

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 18 2012, 09:23 PM)
Normally i travel from JB -> Ipoh, i fuel it full at Skudai, i only refuel when reach Ipoh, total mileage is about 520km. blink.gif

Of course i'm slow poke, always done 110km/h only, becos poorfag scare love letter from police.

But honestly since i bought my car, you nv saw even a post from me that complaint about high FC of this car, when i saw u guys post <10km/L, i'm like speechless and just keep diam diam only. Maybe my driving style? or i'm lucky to get a low FC engine? i'm not sure, dun shoot me, my full tank (mostly 33.XL) won't go down 350km even once, normally >400km/tank at normal city drive.

Driving style, shift @ 2.5-3k RPM, that's it. Sometimes get challenge red line all the way, but only few sec, won't kill FC so much.

Anyway, no fuel saver in my car or any other mod, just a K&N drop in, and 5W30 FS oil, and tell u, Petronas 95. wink.gif
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then it might be your driving style different, and might get the lucky low FC engine laugh.gif
btw, someone at kereta.info blog did burning rate for each type of petrol using same amount of petrol on the bottle cap and let it burn to finish, and here's the result :

MOBIL ----- RON95 --- 26.44 SEC
ESSO ------ RON95 --- 26.04 SEC
CALTEX ---- RON95 --- 25.36 SEC
SHELL ------ RON95 --- 31.59 SEC
PETRONAS - RON95 --- 35.57 SEC
BHP --------- RON 95 --- 30.53 SEC

since you say using Petronas 95 (the slowest rate of burning) maybe it really a factor to our FC because i was used to Shell 95 and able to achieve 6.9L/100km but then i switched to Esso (which is the fastest burn rate), and found out my FC increased to 7.7L/100km... both test was driving at same style, same distance, same place... hmm.gif
conclusion, slower burn rate reduce FC??? whistling.gif

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then it might be your driving style different, and might get the lucky low FC engine  laugh.gif
btw, someone at kereta.info blog did burning rate for each type of petrol using same amount of petrol on the bottle cap and let it burn to finish, and here's the result :

MOBIL ----- RON95 ---  26.44 SEC
ESSO ------ RON95 ---  26.04 SEC
CALTEX ---- RON95 ---  25.36 SEC
SHELL ------ RON95 ---  31.59 SEC
PETRONAS - RON95 ---  35.57 SEC
BHP --------- RON 95 --- 30.53 SEC

since you say using Petronas 95 (the slowest rate of burning) maybe it really a factor to our FC because i was used to Shell 95 and able to achieve 6.9L/100km but then i switched to Esso (which is the fastest burn rate), and found out my FC increased to 7.7L/100km... both test was driving at same style, same distance, same place...  hmm.gif
conclusion, slower burn rate reduce FC???  whistling.gif
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But does this does slower burning rate means inefficiency which causes dirty engine? hmm.gif
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Hi there, I wanna ask about service. My current mileage is 14,440KM, and the STICKER that SC stick at my car said next oil change is at 15,000KM meanwhile at the service booklet say at 20,000KM. which one should I follow? my last service is at 10,000KM.
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This thread is officially FC discussion liao laugh.gif lemme try Petronas next time. The most recent I use Shell only do 9km/l
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 09:58 AM)
GUD MOANING
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just finished read yesterday post rclxub.gif
1 bar 221km i think is ok isit?
manual blm drive 90-110km/h for 2hrs
from kl to temerloh cool.gif

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Congrats for the new thread!

hahah.. im away like 1 week already...

any topic for today?

today using duke and sprint from Pandan jaya to Damansara Perdana ini 15 min.

Wake up late and boss transform to monster... drive like gt japan just now

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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jun 19 2012, 10:41 AM)
Congrats for the new thread!

hahah.. im away like 1 week already...

any topic for today?

today using duke and sprint from Pandan jaya to Damansara Perdana ini 15 min.

Wake up late and boss transform to monster... drive like gt japan just now

"dont drive fast.. it dangerous"
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 19 2012, 08:32 AM)
then it might be your driving style different, and might get the lucky low FC engine  laugh.gif
btw, someone at kereta.info blog did burning rate for each type of petrol using same amount of petrol on the bottle cap and let it burn to finish, and here's the result :

MOBIL ----- RON95 ---  26.44 SEC
ESSO ------ RON95 ---  26.04 SEC
CALTEX ---- RON95 ---  25.36 SEC
SHELL ------ RON95 ---  31.59 SEC
PETRONAS - RON95 ---  35.57 SEC
BHP --------- RON 95 --- 30.53 SEC

since you say using Petronas 95 (the slowest rate of burning) maybe it really a factor to our FC because i was used to Shell 95 and able to achieve 6.9L/100km but then i switched to Esso (which is the fastest burn rate), and found out my FC increased to 7.7L/100km... both test was driving at same style, same distance, same place...  hmm.gif
conclusion, slower burn rate reduce FC???  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jun 19 2012, 10:41 AM)
Congrats for the new thread!

hahah.. im away like 1 week already...

any topic for today?

today using duke and sprint from Pandan jaya to Damansara Perdana ini 15 min.

Wake up late and boss transform to monster... drive like gt japan just now

"dont drive fast.. it dangerous"
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read wrongly, i read as Wake up late and saga transform to monster laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 19 2012, 08:32 AM)
then it might be your driving style different, and might get the lucky low FC engine  laugh.gif
btw, someone at kereta.info blog did burning rate for each type of petrol using same amount of petrol on the bottle cap and let it burn to finish, and here's the result :

MOBIL ----- RON95 ---  26.44 SEC
ESSO ------ RON95 ---  26.04 SEC
CALTEX ---- RON95 ---  25.36 SEC
SHELL ------ RON95 ---  31.59 SEC
PETRONAS - RON95 ---  35.57 SEC
BHP --------- RON 95 --- 30.53 SEC

since you say using Petronas 95 (the slowest rate of burning) maybe it really a factor to our FC because i was used to Shell 95 and able to achieve 6.9L/100km but then i switched to Esso (which is the fastest burn rate), and found out my FC increased to 7.7L/100km... both test was driving at same style, same distance, same place...  hmm.gif
conclusion, slower burn rate reduce FC???  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 19 2012, 10:33 AM)
GUD NITE~  yawn.gif

just finished read yesterday post  rclxub.gif
1 bar 221km i think is ok isit?
manual blm drive 90-110km/h for 2hrs
from kl to temerloh  cool.gif
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Very hard to verify.

As always, when calculating FC, the best and most accurate way to calculate FC is to follow the standard "pump full, drive normally. pump full and measure amount pumped vs distance travelled."

Any other calculation might not be accurate.
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I want to ask.. If I go to SC to claim my steering got prob, do I need to pay..?? What if they say no prob after checking? Do I need to pay for the service? Thanks..
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Oh noes!!! I've been using Caltex all this while!!  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

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are you sure shell is good? cause it burns quite late .. haha
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jun 19 2012, 10:54 AM)
Oh noes!!! I've been using Caltex all this while!!  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
Very hard to verify.

As always, when calculating FC, the best and most accurate way to calculate FC is to follow the standard "pump full, drive normally. pump full and measure amount pumped vs distance travelled."

Any other calculation might not be accurate.
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using esso all this time but after refer the statistic, quite shocked shocking.gif
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I want to ask.. If I go to SC to claim my steering got prob, do I need to pay..?? What if they say no prob after checking? Do I need to pay for the service? Thanks..
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Under warranty la kak. doh.gif
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caltex is the best fuel for me.. but i cant afford since it burn to fast.. maybe the techron technology clean the engine everyday! hahaha

are you sure shell is good? cause it burns quite late .. haha
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i esso/mobil/PETRON (new name) and caltex only..

i love to vroom vroom also.. hahaha
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My first car how should I know.. I think I will go to SC first before install any bar to avoid isu berbangkit  whistling.gif

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today stil FC the hot topic laugh.gif
TS, thread topic need to change ady
FC so high for what? brows.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 11:16 AM)
ban FC topic vmad.gif
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come on guys, lets continue spam FC here whistling.gif
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QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 19 2012, 11:07 AM)
My first car how should I know.. I think I will go to SC first before install any bar to avoid isu berbangkit  whistling.gif

Btw thanks biggrin.gif
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laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

come on guys, lets continue spam FC here  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jun 19 2012, 10:57 AM)
caltex is the best fuel for me.. but i cant afford since it burn to fast.. maybe the techron technology clean the engine everyday! hahaha

are you sure shell is good? cause it burns quite late .. haha
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Haha, maybe lar. biggrin.gif

I think I'll go back to BHP for awhile and see ... tongue.gif

QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 19 2012, 11:04 AM)
last time used to heavy footed and lost 2 bar same distance  hmm.gif
using esso all this time but after refer the statistic, quite shocked shocking.gif
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That's the problem with all these digital bar meter thingies.

For all you know, the 2nd bar might drop after only driving an extra 1km.
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i love esso/mobil/petron

cause the smile points. hehehe
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Max km for RM30 buck only about 190km (60% H/ 40%C) within the speed of 90-140km/h~!
Max Km for RM30 buck for 30%H/ 70%C) only about 130-140km within the speed of 90-120km/h~!
Max Km for RM30 buck for 100%C only can take about 100-110km only within the speed of 70-100km/h~! vmad.gif

trying to reduce FC~! btw using shell~!

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good job, spam FC to 20th page then only stop.
TS gonna rage soon tongue.gif

PETRON also using smile?omg, wher can get tis petrol station?
so far got review for this new brand ady?
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weird thing..when im using flx, its goes better with petronas..even FC is better than others..when fueling with esso/mobil, fuel usage become high...demit..
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BTW, two nites ago while I saw the Esso station near my place full of cars, in comparison the Caltex station next to it sibuk tampar lalat.

ppl rushing to redeem their smile points before changing to Petron?
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Anyone here using other engine oil other than the Petronas and Helix oil peddled by Proton SCs? Any additives?

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few days back, test drive on my fren 1.6 flx.
feel very weird after driving 2year blm.
now i know wat is engine breaking...
stay at 2k rpm all the way, pickup slower compared to manual blm.
not dare to step down my right leg as his car just 1000km
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dei.. petron and other esso/mobil is still the same.. haha

even i received sms that if i pump the petron now can get 1.5 more smile point! hahaha..

i just need to change my public visa esso to public visa petron if they change it lah. hahaha..

more smiles point.. i can redeem more money!
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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 19 2012, 11:32 AM)
few days back, test drive on my fren 1.6 flx.
feel very weird after driving 2year blm.
now i know wat is engine breaking...
stay at 2k rpm all the way, pickup slower compared to manual blm.
not dare to step down my right leg as his car just 1000km
correct me if wrong  notworthy.gif
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2k rpm, of coz slow sweat.gif

The 2nd day i got my car ady rev til 4k laugh.gif laugh.gif , right after 1k servis rev til rev cut thumbup.gif
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haha u dares memang racer punya orang..

i 3rd day also tekan sampai red line 6.5-6.8 already... feel syok but scared hahahaha
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jun 19 2012, 11:44 AM)
haha u dares memang racer punya orang..

i 3rd day also tekan sampai red line 6.5-6.8 already... feel syok but scared hahahaha
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I oni lenjan when got straight empty road whistling.gif I drive like a pusseh whistling.gif whistling.gif

revcut at 6k, how you tekan til 6.8? blink.gif blink.gif
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ENtah.. i just say only.. maybe sampai 6 kot.. 500-800 rpm.. i tambah sendiri! hahaha

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ENtah.. i just say only.. maybe sampai 6 kot.. 500-800 rpm.. i tambah sendiri! hahaha
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jun 19 2012, 11:44 AM)
haha u dares memang racer punya orang..

i 3rd day also tekan sampai red line 6.5-6.8 already... feel syok but scared hahahaha
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I oni lenjan when got straight empty road  whistling.gif I drive like a pusseh  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

revcut at 6k, how you tekan til 6.8?  blink.gif  blink.gif
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Morning all,

WTA is that the saga flx se 1.6 got manual version ?
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30th or 31st brather?
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Morning all,

WTA is that the saga flx se 1.6 got manual version ?
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30th, 30th godemit!!

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btw wat time already?
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Need to ask V12kontena
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Bro, V12kontena is forum username or something else ?
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Anyone here using other engine oil other than the Petronas and Helix oil peddled by Proton SCs? Any additives?
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Bro, V12kontena is forum username or something else ?
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Bro, V12kontena is forum username or something else ?
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Sorry, look for V12kompressor, member here
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Me using liqui moly
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Gooding?

I heard price increase this few days  hmm.gif
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i was abt to do my major major service next week
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Dont be like that la xD newbie here  cry.gif
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i was abt to do my major major service next week
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Engine oil discussion now ar? PeroGua 10W30 3litre for Gancil nod.gif the oil burnt hangus ady within 1000km doh.gif
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Btw just now I send my car to SC (burn my lunch hour sad.gif ).. After magician test drive my car they said no problems.. Since no shaking, no leaking etc.. New car always like that bla bla.. So my conclusion new car sedap bawak for 1 month only after that many thing shows up doh.gif
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mineral base EO so cheap, actually good for gagabot anot???
my bro using FS for his persona (mobil 1)
i thinking to use FS too
10000km drink 4liter FS = rm150-170
5000km drink 4liter SS = rm100-120
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I use Eneos.. No additives..

Btw just now I send my car to SC (burn my lunch hour sad.gif ).. After magician test drive my car they said no problems.. Since no shaking, no leaking etc.. New car always like that bla bla.. So my conclusion new car sedap bawak for 1 month only after that many thing shows up  doh.gif
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They say your steering wont pusing balik is normal?  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

My ride still sedap after 6 months  wub.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 01:12 PM)
They say your steering A BIT SLOW pusing balik is normal?  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

My ride still sedap after 6 months  wub.gif
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I don't know la it is just my feeling or what? I wonder why they don't want to open to check..
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Engine oil discussion now ar? PeroGua 10W30 3litre for Gancil nod.gif the oil burnt hangus ady within 1000km doh.gif
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QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 19 2012, 01:19 PM)
I don't know la it is just my feeling or what? I wonder why they don't want to open to check..
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oh cheh.

If they feel its normal or within tolerance then of course they won't open it up lor.

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try minyak cap petai
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30th june usj.. location and what time ?

no event during that time.. nak join kenal kenal with sifu!! hahaha


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wow dun make me hungry pls... my opis now cold and i starving...
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30th june usj.. location and what time ?

no event during that time.. nak join kenal kenal with sifu!! hahaha
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Check the first page second post icon_rolleyes.gif

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thanks.. saw it already.

poison ar.. hmm thats what i really scared. lol...


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MMMmmmm steaming hot..Om nom nom nom

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 19 2012, 01:22 PM)
later ekzos very smelly  laugh.gif
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u tot rotary engine meh??? lol
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 01:56 PM)
healthy engine mana akan ada engine oil go into combustion chamber one???

u tot rotary engine meh??? lol
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same as if u eat petai, see wat happen if gas release from ur "ekzos" wub.gif
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Anyone here using other engine oil other than the Petronas and Helix oil peddled by Proton SCs? Any additives?
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I use Eneos fully synthetic. No additives.

QUOTE(Noneluv @ Jun 19 2012, 12:44 PM)
Dont be like that la xD newbie here  cry.gif
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koff koff.

You say that like it's a bad thing .... icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 19 2012, 01:10 PM)
mineral base EO so cheap, actually good for gagabot anot???
my bro using FS for his persona (mobil 1)
i thinking to use FS too
10000km drink 4liter FS = rm150-170
5000km drink 4liter SS = rm100-120
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That's what I was thinking. Not only that, you pay labor two times as well. So I decided to stick to 10000km intervals with fully synthetic.

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I don't know la it is just my feeling or what? I wonder why they don't want to open to check..
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Have you compared with other Sagas two see if the speed turning back is the same?
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jun 19 2012, 02:07 PM)
I use Eneos fully synthetic. No additives.
koff koff.

You say that like it's a bad thing ....  icon_idea.gif
That's what I was thinking. Not only that, you pay labor two times as well. So I decided to stick to 10000km intervals with fully synthetic.
Have you compared with other Sagas two see if the speed turning back is the same?
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Where to find other Saga..? My fren use myvee, vivi, civik and cabry.. Btw why not give your turning speed time for 90 degree junction..

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jun 19 2012, 02:07 PM)
That's what I was thinking. Not only that, you pay labor two times as well. So I decided to stick to 10000km intervals with fully synthetic.

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oh ya, i forget about labor charge doh.gif
thx for the remind, i know wat to do now.
after finish the current SS EO, will change to FS.

just finish lunch, curi tulang awhile.
gud nite everyone wub.gif

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Hi All,

anyone know this two engine what are the different?

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Where to find other Saga..? My fren use myvee, vivi, civik and cabry.. Btw why not give your turning speed time for 90 degree junction..
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Well, since you were at the service center .....

I haven't really measured that before

QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 19 2012, 02:43 PM)
oh ya, i forget about labor charge  doh.gif
thx for the remind, i know wat to do now.
after finish the current SS EO, will change to FS.

just finish lunch, curi tulang awhile.
gud nite everyone  wub.gif
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Up to you man. There are reports of tappet noise after prolonged use. I personally prioritize my ringgits more than that. Money no enough. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 12:46 PM)

Where you buy from?
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Changed some stuff today brows.gif

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These are much quieter than the stock Ducaro GAs. Felt a bit more comfy too. Haven't done any hard cornering yet so I don't know about the grip. So quiet, till the engine sound is really clear now doh.gif

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New battery too.

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I saw this while the wheel was taken off. Fuel filter?
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how much the energy xm2 bro?
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how much the energy xm2 bro?
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so if 15 i think around 280-290.. walaoweh... memang pokai ...

i use sampai botak first this synergy m5 tanker mode.. very loud like lorry.. hahah
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my bro persona recently changed 4 biji XM2, not bad
gripping better and quiet compared to stock tyre, rm270 sebiji sweat.gif
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jun 19 2012, 03:51 PM)
so if 15 i think around 280-290.. walaoweh... memang pokai ...

i use sampai botak first this synergy m5 tanker mode.. very loud like lorry.. hahah
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I guess so. That's one of the benefits of sticking with the stock rim size nod.gif

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I just changed 4 Michelin XM2 195/60 R15 (includes valve, balancing and allignment) at HupShun SS3 for RM275 each
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wow...if west malaysia RM220 thn east malaysia more expensive
how much for the battery?
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how much for the battery?
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is the XM2 hv any size available for blm ar? got ppl change it or the market price?
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Hi All,

anyone know this two engine what are the different?

CamPro IAFM, 4 Cylinder, DOHC 16V
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95% same.

QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 19 2012, 03:08 PM)
Changed some stuff today brows.gif

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These are much quieter than the stock Ducaro GAs. Felt a bit more comfy too. Haven't done any hard cornering yet so I don't know about the grip. So quiet, till the engine sound is really clear now doh.gif

I saw this while the wheel was taken off. Fuel filter?
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Better rubbers in anticipation for better cornering with FSB? brows.gif brows.gif

QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jun 19 2012, 03:51 PM)
so if 15 i think around 280-290.. walaoweh... memang pokai ...

i use sampai botak first this synergy m5 tanker mode.. very loud like lorry.. hahah
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Yea, noisy like mad + poor grip vmad.gif vmad.gif

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I guess so. That's one of the benefits of sticking with the stock rim size nod.gif
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My stock rim size is 15" sad.gif
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is the XM2 hv any size available for blm ar? got ppl change it or the market price?
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The size I just bought lor. 185/60R14. Otherwise check here.

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 04:04 PM)
Better rubbers in anticipation for better cornering with FSB?  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Not really actually, my Ducaros are quite worn and I'll be doing quite a bit of travelling in the next few months so...

But I think it'll be a good combo brows.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 04:04 PM)
My stock rim size is 15"  sad.gif
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Notwithstanding the FLX SE whistling.gif tongue.gif

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is the XM2 hv any size available for blm ar? got ppl change it or the market price?
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I changed mine to XM1 for 160 each.
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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 19 2012, 04:04 PM)
is the XM2 hv any size available for blm ar? got ppl change it or the market price?
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that size is for BLM
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 04:04 PM)
95% same.
Better rubbers in anticipation for better cornering with FSB?  brows.gif  brows.gif
Yea, noisy like mad + poor grip  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
My stock rim size is 15"  sad.gif
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bro, but i am wondering i check from the proton website over there they show the max speed a bit different..

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jun 19 2012, 10:54 AM)
As always, when calculating FC, the best and most accurate way to calculate FC is to follow the standard "pump full, drive normally. pump full and measure amount pumped vs distance travelled."
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yeah, agree with that... that's the best method to determine the accurate FC biggrin.gif

QUOTE(flipmode @ Jun 19 2012, 11:25 AM)
weird thing..when im using flx, its goes better with petronas..even FC is better than others..when fueling with esso/mobil, fuel usage become high...demit..
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look like Petronas have the slowest burn rate, and it really affect the FC to lower hmm.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 11:25 AM)
BTW, two nites ago while I saw the Esso station near my place full of cars, in comparison the Caltex station next to it sibuk tampar lalat.
ppl rushing to redeem their smile points before changing to Petron?
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Petron still using same management team, if i'm not mistaken, the Smile card still valid

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QUOTE(Noneluv @ Jun 19 2012, 04:22 PM)
bro, but i am wondering i check from the proton website over there they show the max speed a bit different..
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Proton website is as informative as a piece of mud. Heck, they even show the FLX SE to be running on the Campro IAFM doh.gif doh.gif

The bullet point version is:

- The 1.3 Campro IAFM+ and IAFM have the same hp and max torque figures.
- The 1.6 Campro IAFM+ has slightly lower hp and slightly higher max torque than 1.6 Campro IAFM.
- All Campro IAFM+ achieve their max hp at lower RPM compared to Campro IAFM.
- The IAFM+ component is allegedly more durable than the IAFM.
- All Saga FLX are running on Campro IAFM+

Also, never believe the top speed claims by Proton. Saga is well capable of of going speeds above 160km/h.
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 19 2012, 03:47 PM)
RM 220 per doughnut.
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Inclusive of balancing and alignment?

Wow, prices have gone up quite a lot.

QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 19 2012, 04:03 PM)
RM 200 but trade in the old battery got RM 15 discount. So it's RM 185.
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Glad to see prices still around there for the battery.

QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 19 2012, 04:10 PM)
The size I just bought lor. 185/60R14. Otherwise check here.
Not really actually, my Ducaros are quite worn and I'll be doing quite a bit of travelling in the next few months so...

But I think it'll be a good combo brows.gif
Notwithstanding the FLX SE whistling.gif tongue.gif
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I already got XM2s + front struts ... brows.gif

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Inclusive of balancing and alignment?

Balancing only. No alignment.

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Yah we know tongue.gif

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 19 2012, 04:10 PM)
The size I just bought lor. 185/60R14. Otherwise check here.

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thx! just view the michelin website.
company block website, go home check. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 19 2012, 04:22 PM)
that size is for BLM
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okok thx. notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jun 19 2012, 04:48 PM)
Inclusive of balancing and alignment?

Wow, prices have gone up quite a lot.
Glad to see prices still around there for the battery.
I already got XM2s + front struts ... brows.gif
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wow now ur car very pro ady.
can go cucuk other car ady laugh.gif

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 19 2012, 05:12 PM)
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2k rpm city drive, 3k rpm highway all the way

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thx! just view the michelin website.
company block website, go home check.  biggrin.gif
okok thx.  notworthy.gif


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wow now ur car very pro ady.
can go cucuk other car ady  laugh.gif
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Haha, I not pro racer and I hate tailgaters. wink.gif

I just stubbornly insist on driving at constant 100 - 120kph speed only. lol.

Btw, what speed are you at at 2k rpm? 3k I assume about 100? And how's the FC?

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cvt 2k is 100km..2.3k for 110km...

sometimes i change to SAT .. the feel is there eventho still the same

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 19 2012, 05:21 PM)
same here, now i drive like ah pek  laugh.gif
2k rpm city drive, 3k rpm highway all the way
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same to me, drive at 60 km/h city drive, meanwhile 90 km/h highway tongue.gif


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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jun 19 2012, 05:40 PM)
cvt 2k is 100km..2.3k for 110km...

sometimes i change to SAT .. the feel is there eventho still the same
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bro, mine to share come photo during 100km/h cruise @ 2000RPM? wanna show it to COEs, because mine is 90km/h @ 2000RPM, maybe need some tweaking to do biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 04:46 PM)
Proton website is as informative as a piece of mud. Heck, they even show the FLX SE to be running on the Campro IAFM  doh.gif  doh.gif

The bullet point version is:

- The 1.3 Campro IAFM+ and IAFM have the same hp and max torque figures.
- The 1.6 Campro IAFM+ has slightly lower hp and slightly higher max torque than 1.6 Campro IAFM.
- All Campro IAFM+ achieve their max hp at lower RPM compared to Campro IAFM.
- The IAFM+ component is allegedly more durable than the IAFM.
- All Saga FLX are running on Campro IAFM+

Also, never believe the top speed claims by Proton. Saga is well capable of of going speeds above 160km/h.
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btw i found the saga flx r3 bodykit also not bad. drool.gif
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jun 19 2012, 05:32 PM)
Haha, I not pro racer and I hate tailgaters. wink.gif

I just stubbornly insist on driving at constant 100 - 120kph speed only. lol.

Btw, what speed are you at at 2k rpm? 3k I assume about 100? And how's the FC?
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city drive 5th gear 70-80kmh
if jam, 40-50kmh max can shift 3rd-4th gear... (as long maintain 2k rpm)
sometime constant 2nd gear becos very jam, jerk like hell if no step on clutch... doh.gif

highway drive
3k rpm 5th gear, 90-100kmh

can say 40-50% better than heavy footer.
never use proper method to calculate.


Added on June 19, 2012, 6:01 pm
QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 19 2012, 05:54 PM)
same to me, drive at 60 km/h city drive, meanwhile 90 km/h highway  tongue.gif


Added on June 19, 2012, 5:56 pm
bro, mine to share come photo during 100km/h cruise @ 2000RPM? wanna show it to CEO, because mine is 90km/h @ 2000RPM, maybe need some tweaking to do  biggrin.gif
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gogoman, i remember u r racer here hmm.gif

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 19 2012, 06:00 PM)
city drive 5th gear 70-80kmh
if jam, 40-50kmh max can shift 3rd-4th gear... (as long maintain 2k rpm)

highway drive
3k rpm 5th gear, 90-100kmh

can say 50% better than heavy footer.
never use proper method to calculate.


Added on June 19, 2012, 6:01 pm
gogoman, i remember u r racer here  hmm.gif
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no way.... shakehead.gif i'm not a racer, don't like to cucuk people neither go above 140km/h
the first time i got my car, i try out the top speed just to test the ability of the car and also CVT tongue.gif

now same with GP mad man, drive like ah pek laugh.gif
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drive like ah pek FTW

furthermore, it matches the color of our car, gogoman. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 06:15 PM)
drive like ah pek FTW

furthermore, it matches the color of our car, gogoman. tongue.gif
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match our car colour?? blink.gif
for me, this elegant brown is luxury colour brows.gif
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jun 19 2012, 05:40 PM)
cvt 2k is 100km..2.3k for 110km...
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 19 2012, 05:54 PM)
bro, mine to share come photo during 100km/h cruise @ 2000RPM? wanna show it to COEs, because mine is 90km/h @ 2000RPM, maybe need some tweaking to do  biggrin.gif
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2K RPM at 85-90 oni la. Ixora ni needs glasses dy, rev til 6.8k RPM summore sweat.gif
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 19 2012, 06:36 PM)
match our car colour??  blink.gif
for me, this elegant brown is luxury colour  brows.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 06:52 PM)
2K RPM at 85-90 oni la. Ixora ni needs glasses dy, rev til 6.8k RPM summore   sweat.gif
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i also wondering how come he is the only one got that lower RPM on his FLX sweat.gif
btw, FLX max rev is 5.5k right? whistling.gif


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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 07:03 PM)
mine oso brown mah... sleep.gif
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so we should proud of the luxury colour, not relate to ah pek colour laugh.gif

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 19 2012, 07:08 PM)
i also wondering how come he is the only one got that lower RPM on his FLX  sweat.gif
btw, FLX max rev is 5.5k right?  whistling.gif
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6k or 6.5k, I forgot which.

Max hp is at 5750 RPM, if rev cut at 5.5k then kenot reach max hp dy sweat.gif
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 19 2012, 07:08 PM)
i also wondering how come he is the only one got that lower RPM on his FLX  sweat.gif
btw, FLX max rev is 5.5k right?  whistling.gif


Added on June 19, 2012, 7:09 pm
so we should proud of the luxury colour, not relate to ah pek colour  laugh.gif
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max rev @ 5,750rpm
6,000rpm if SAT mode.

Thats why the 1.3FLX will forever cant reach the peak hp one when driven in normal mode.


Added on June 19, 2012, 7:18 pmah pek better. drive small saga oni wanna be related to luxury... macam tak kena only. lol

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QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 19 2012, 01:19 PM)
I don't know la it is just my feeling or what? I wonder why they don't want to open to check..
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Darling, drive your car to flat gloss ground, such as Mid Valley parking lot and listen to your tyre on straight line. If can hear screeching sound, most probably alignment out. Normal computer alignment cost RM15 and that's it. Don't let them con you to add something camber screw lar, adjust camber lar. Those are nonsense until you hit a pothole hard and bent your lower arm, otherwise those camber adjustment are just a way they pitch for more profit. Bad camber is something like this

user posted image

Bad alignment is this

user posted image

Normally, besides of steering bush, bad alignment will also result in steering numb/turning back slow after cornering. I assume you're not an hard arse that corner like me, your bush should still fine as your car only 1 month old. Steering bush is an wear & tear item, normal driving condition can last up to 2 years, the more parallel parking you do, the faster it die. Died"ed" steering bush normally you'll feel significant numb on steering feedback. For example after steering full turn during reverse, if you put it to forward and step on the gas, the steering will auto correct itself; as for bad steering bush your steering will stick to full turn and continue make donut when you step on the gas.

Bad alignment vehicle normally give numb feedback because the wheel not agreeing on the straight line, after steering full turn already, both wheels tend to rejecting each other instead of agreeing.

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try minyak cap petai


Added on June 19, 2012, 1:22 pm

oh cheh.

If they feel its normal or within tolerance then of course they won't open it up lor.
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user posted image
They don't produce anymore

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user posted image

I saw this while the wheel was taken off. Fuel filter?
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user posted image

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ah pek better. drive small saga oni wanna be related to luxury... macam tak kena only. lol
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PROBLEM?? brows.gif brows.gif
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nak tanya, kalau gaji rm 1800 bersih layak x nak pakai saga flx 1.6?
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 07:31 PM)
user posted image

PROBLEM??  brows.gif  brows.gif
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QUOTE(man1388 @ Jun 19 2012, 07:34 PM)
nak tanya, kalau gaji rm 1800 bersih layak x nak pakai saga flx 1.6?
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Kalu amik loan 9 tahun ok jer. Approval bergantung kepada officer kat bank gak. Ada sesetengah dealer 'kamcing' ngan pegawai bank, loan senang approve.

Yang penting, kena tahu kemampuan sendiri untuk bayar loan bulan2 icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 04:46 PM)
Proton website is as informative as a piece of mud. Heck, they even show the FLX SE to be running on the Campro IAFM  doh.gif  doh.gif

The bullet point version is:

- The 1.3 Campro IAFM+ and IAFM have the same hp and max torque figures.
- The 1.6 Campro IAFM+ has slightly lower hp and slightly higher max torque than 1.6 Campro IAFM.
- All Campro IAFM+ achieve their max hp at lower RPM compared to Campro IAFM.
- The IAFM+ component is allegedly more durable than the IAFM.
- All Saga FLX are running on Campro IAFM+

Also, never believe the top speed claims by Proton. Saga is well capable of of going speeds above 160km/h.
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Yo, just now i research from the website found this system "Surbo Air Suction Turbo" anyone have idea on this turbo ? because i found they said this turn wont damage our engine.... please come do some discuss...
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QUOTE(Noneluv @ Jun 19 2012, 08:18 PM)
Yo, just now i research from the website found this system "Surbo Air Suction Turbo" anyone have idea on this turbo ? because i found they said this turn wont damage our engine.... please come do some discuss...
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Surbo = placebo effect

Not worth it IMO.
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QUOTE(Noneluv @ Jun 19 2012, 08:18 PM)
Yo, just now i research from the website found this system "Surbo Air Suction Turbo" anyone have idea on this turbo ? because i found they said this turn wont damage our engine.... please come do some discuss...
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user posted image x2 = SURBO

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its just an overpriced thing that feeds more air installed in the air intake box.

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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jun 19 2012, 08:20 PM)
Surbo = placebo effect

Not worth it IMO.
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Bro, What meaning IMO? Newbie here notworthy.gif

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 08:21 PM)
user posted image x2 = SURBO

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its just an overpriced thing that feeds more air installed in the air intake box.
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QUOTE(Noneluv @ Jun 19 2012, 08:24 PM)
lol...do you have any friend selling proton car ? because now i am looking for the best seller depend what offer they have. rclxub.gif
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apa model you interested with?

sometimes best offer doesn't mean best seller. Why risk getting screwed upside down inside out just for the extra few hundred ringgit freebies.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 08:27 PM)
apa model you interested with?

sometimes best offer doesn't mean best seller. Why risk getting screwed upside down inside out just for the extra few hundred ringgit freebies.
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Bro, i am look for 1.6 full spec(executive CVT Spec) manual... because i also want to get the Johor plate number dont know seller can help to do or not ?

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ur location now?
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ur location now?
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i stay at PJ nearby SS2

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not many SA will willign to bid/obtain Johor plate for you. You have to go do it yourself.
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ur location now?
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 08:36 PM)
not many SA will willign to bid/obtain Johor plate for you. You have to go do it yourself.
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Maybe can try the Showroom at Centre of Excellence. Maybe they can make arrangements.

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 08:36 PM)
not many SA will willign to bid/obtain Johor plate for you. You have to go do it yourself.
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lol... that also is my another problem if cannot then grab the Selangor or KL plate...
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Selangor or KL then easier... coz agent either go Wangsa Maju or Shah Alam to register only.

if you're keen on the upcoming WX series, then you can bid also. Tomorrow opening bid for WXC

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 08:41 PM)
Selangor or KL then easier... coz agent either go Wangsa Maju or Shah Alam to register only.

if you're keen on the upcoming WX series, then you can bid also. Tomorrow opening bid for WXC
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any introduce ?
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lol, i myself is selling. but for FLX SE, there's no any promotion going on currently.

PM-ed you what you'll be getting.
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My SA only give umbrella and steering lock. wtf? where touch n go rm150, smart tag and so called tinted? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(creative zn @ Jun 19 2012, 08:58 PM)
My SA only give umbrella and steering lock. wtf? where touch n go rm150, smart tag and so called tinted?  rclxub.gif
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kena screwed upside down inside out edi lah tu....


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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


PROBLEM??  brows.gif  brows.gif
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I think this is a more tasteful mod brows.gif

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QUOTE(Noneluv @ Jun 19 2012, 08:18 PM)
Yo, just now i research from the website found this system "Surbo Air Suction Turbo" anyone have idea on this turbo ? because i found they said this turn wont damage our engine.... please come do some discuss...
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I read one article a few days ago showing how it's practically impossible for a 12 volt system to drive a fan which can act as a turbo/supercharger due to the massive power requirements of such a device, with actual calculations such as the power generated by the device (a proper turbo/supercharger) and the limitations of the car electric system. It's an excellent read but I can't find that page in my history rclxub.gif Never mind, I found an alternative but it's not as clear. So simply put, a 12v computer fan is not gonna make any difference to the air pressure in your intake manifold.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 09:01 PM)
kena screwed upside down inside out edi lah tu....
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oh. crap. err. what that suppose to mean?
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 19 2012, 09:11 PM)
I read one article a few days ago showing how it's practically impossible for a 12 volt system to drive a fan which can act as a turbo/supercharger due to the massive power requirements of such a device, with actual calculations such as the power generated by the device (a proper turbo/supercharger) and the limitations of the car electric system. It's an excellent read but I can't find that page in my history rclxub.gif Never mind, I found  an alternative but it's not as clear. So simply put, a 12v computer fan is not gonna make any difference to the air pressure in your intake manifold.
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As far as I know, the Surbo is not even a spinning fan. It is suppose to be an array of fins that "spins" the air as it enters the throttle body, supposedly creating a "vortex" that will increase powah.

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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jun 19 2012, 08:40 AM)
Nice info  thumbup.gif

But does this does slower burning rate means inefficiency which causes dirty engine?  hmm.gif
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These reading mana accurate. These are tested under room temperature mah.
I'm no scientist but when burn inside engine got different temperature & pressure.
Actual reading could be vary.
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Hey there guys. Dad just booked an FLX SE 1.6CVT for Mum, will be getting it by this week I think. I'll probably be taking over her old Merdeka promo Saga and use it for a couple of months before I change it next year to something I like.
Will have to go home next week to teach her how to drive an auto! Hahahaha
She's so used to manual, she never wanted anything but a stick shift! Forced her to take the auto since she does daily driving to and from work and frequently runs errands, plus she's past her 50's.
Oh, and nice to meet u guys! smile.gif

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QUOTE(vinesh22 @ Jun 19 2012, 10:04 PM)
Hey there guys. Dad just booked an FLX SE 1.6CVT for Mum, will be getting it by this week I think. I'll probably be taking over her old Merdeka promo Saga and use it for a couple of months before I change it next year to something I like.
Will have to go home next week to teach her how to drive an auto! Hahahaha
She's so used to manual, she never wanted anything but a stick shift! Forced her to take the auto since she does daily driving to and from work and frequently runs errands, plus she's past her 50's.
Oh, and nice to meet u guys!  smile.gif
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You might need to learn to drive a CVT yourself too laugh.gif
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You might need to learn to drive a CVT yourself too  laugh.gif
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I find auto tranny soooo complicated to drive whistling.gif The only letters I recognise are R and N. What does P, D, L and the rest do? tongue.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 09:28 PM)
As far as I know, the Surbo is not even a spinning fan. It is suppose to be an array of fins that "spins" the air as it enters the throttle body, supposedly creating a "vortex" that will increase powah.

shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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Didn't read carefully earlier. And I found this. Really, really sceptical. If it's so good the inventor can patent it and make $$$, and it would be standard feature on every car.

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 19 2012, 10:06 PM)
You might need to learn to drive a CVT yourself too  laugh.gif
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Hahaha, trust me when I say that's the least of my problems. tongue.gif
Was reading your blog earlier. That's some really good honest insight I must say. icon_rolleyes.gif
Anyway, we have auto cars at home, its just that she's really stubborn. We've been trying to force her to learn how to drive an auto, but she'll keep giving excuses. This time no chance, if she wants to be mobile, she's gotta learn! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(vinesh22 @ Jun 19 2012, 10:04 PM)
Hey there guys. Dad just booked an FLX SE 1.6CVT for Mum, will be getting it by this week I think. I'll probably be taking over her old Merdeka promo Saga and use it for a couple of months before I change it next year to something I like.
Will have to go home next week to teach her how to drive an auto! Hahahaha
She's so used to manual, she never wanted anything but a stick shift! Forced her to take the auto since she does daily driving to and from work and frequently runs errands, plus she's past her 50's.
Oh, and nice to meet u guys!  smile.gif
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So fast. 1 week! What color?
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QUOTE(creative zn @ Jun 19 2012, 10:15 PM)
So fast. 1 week! What color?
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The red one, Fire Red, or something like that right?. Oh from Johor Bahru by the way, which is probably why. The car is already there, its just a matter of settling the payment. Made the booking a week back or something like that, plus, no loan application or anything, which is probably why we got it fast. Well that's the best reason I can think of at least.
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waa?? mine no sound liao...my dad also lazy to ask also..oni bank call me last fri ago...
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QUOTE(vinesh22 @ Jun 19 2012, 10:19 PM)
The red one, Fire Red, or something like that right?. Oh from Johor Bahru by the way, which is probably why. The car is already there, its just a matter of settling the payment. Made the booking a week back or something like that, plus, no loan application or anything, which is probably why we got it fast. Well that's the best reason I can think of at least.
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I see. I just book ytd. They said not sure can get when. Maybe a month or more. doh.gif
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Oh yeah, if you guys don't mind me asking, what do you think I should ask for as a free gift? I mean, steering lock and umbrellas are probably standard, plus the car is already tinted in stock condition right? Is it any good though, or would any of you recommend replacing it? She'll be the one driving the car, and her hospital has a shaded car park anyway.
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QUOTE(creative zn @ Jun 19 2012, 09:14 PM)
oh. crap. err. what that suppose to mean?
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walk into showrrom
see car, molest here and there. go for a test drive.
SA promise ini itu sana sini
submit everything for loan
loan approve, sign papers
wait a week, call SA. SA say minus ini if wan get faster.
wait another week, call SA, SA say minus itu if wan get faster
car arrive and get only sana sini at the end.

typical scenario in a proton showroom. lol
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QUOTE(vinesh22 @ Jun 19 2012, 10:19 PM)
The red one, Fire Red, or something like that right?. Oh from Johor Bahru by the way, which is probably why. The car is already there, its just a matter of settling the payment. Made the booking a week back or something like that, plus, no loan application or anything, which is probably why we got it fast. Well that's the best reason I can think of at least.
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Yup, BEST reason!!
CASH is KING!!! As alwaz... rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(vinesh22 @ Jun 19 2012, 10:23 PM)
Oh yeah, if you guys don't mind me asking, what do you think I should ask for as a free gift? I mean, steering lock and umbrellas are probably standard, plus the car is already tinted in stock condition right? Is it any good though, or would any of you recommend replacing it? She'll be the one driving the car, and her hospital has a shaded car park anyway.
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Can check here for standard gift. click me . biggrin.gif

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for a dealer/seller, there's only one reason to give that discount/freebies but they can create a thousand reasons to take back the discount/freebies.

I also can do that but those are just unethical practice. I willing to earn less, as long as my conscience is clear.
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QUOTE(creative zn @ Jun 19 2012, 10:34 PM)
Can check here for standard gift. click me . biggrin.gif
Hey thanks for that man wink.gif


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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 10:37 PM)
for a dealer/seller, there's only one reason to give that discount/freebies but they can create a thousand reasons to take back the discount/freebies.

I also can do that but those are just unethical practice. I willing to earn less, as long as my conscience is clear.
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Yeah, well my Mum's SA just told her to list what she wants. He did mention that window tint was free, so don't need to ask for that, which is why I just needed clarification earlier. I think the smart tag would be a good thing though.

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ps. True case... Relative ordered Saga paying cash; car delivered on 3rd day; cos wkend & JPJ closed, regd Mon afternoon, driving new car Tues afternoon cos did new tinting!! See? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vinesh22 @ Jun 19 2012, 10:38 PM)
Hey thanks for that man  wink.gif


Added on June 19, 2012, 10:41 pm
Yeah, well my Mum's SA just told her to list what she wants. He did mention that window tint was free, so don't need to ask for that, which is why I just needed clarification earlier. I think the smart tag would be a good thing though.
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smart tag for saga purchase, not many willing to give... coz the cost of smart tag already exceed 10% of the commission they received for the sale of a Saga
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QUOTE(creative zn @ Jun 19 2012, 10:34 PM)
Can check here for standard gift. click me . biggrin.gif
Different one... I'm not getting smart tag...
and I'll be getting tinting voucher worth RM400 but not free 5mil safety tint..

WHY??


Added on June 19, 2012, 10:48 pmBTW....

We're not V24 and Pg 24


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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 10:44 PM)
smart tag for saga purchase, not many willing to give... coz the cost of smart tag already exceed 10% of the commission they received for the sale of a Saga
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 10:44 PM)
smart tag for saga purchase, not many willing to give... coz the cost of smart tag already exceed 10% of the commission they received for the sale of a Saga
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I see. Maybe that for preve prem or exora bold. haha. Anyway, i just want my baby come out fast safely. That the only matter. wub.gif
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free gifts isn't determined by proton edar or proton itself.

proton edar only owns the www.proton-edar.com.my web. that proton-edar.my is obviously bought by that abdullah fellar to be exploit on.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 10:44 PM)
smart tag for saga purchase, not many willing to give... coz the cost of smart tag already exceed 10% of the commission they received for the sale of a Saga
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Now i understand~


Added on June 19, 2012, 10:55 pmSo means I bought Sage FLX 1.3 CVT (Exec)

with discount RM2K

with free gift:
Full tank,
touch n go,
tinting voucher RM400,
Steering Lock


are this worth it or not?

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 10:52 PM)
free gifts isn't determined by proton edar or proton itself.

proton edar only owns the www.proton-edar.com.my web. that proton-edar.my is obviously bought by that abdullah fellar to be exploit on.
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oh. now i got it. haha. nice tactic to boost his sales. thanks for the clarification man.
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QUOTE(li_5997 @ Jun 19 2012, 10:54 PM)
Now i understand~


Added on June 19, 2012, 10:55 pmSo means I bought Sage FLX 1.3 CVT (Exec)

with discount RM2K

with free gift:
Full tank,
touch n go,
tinting voucher RM400,
Steering Lock
are this worth it or not?
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TnG ada credit or not? nanti is card + RM10 credit only. lol

apart from that TnG, others are the norm in the industry for a Saga.
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 11:32 AM)
Strut bar COD TT
Date: 30th June 2012 (Saturday)
Time: 1:30pm


Those who are not in the bulk list are welcomed to join and TCSS + poison  brows.gif

Attendance:
1. Mahihi
2. dares
3. zukjka
4. r3apers
5. mieza
6. davidke20
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For those who cannot make it to COD with Mahihi, pls arrange separately with him to collect. Also, pls bank in a deposit to Mahihi for your merchandise, RM 70 for FSB, RM60 for RSB. I shall PM his bank account details to each of you, thanks!


Location: Esso petrol Station, USJ
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30th ada charity project, so cant go.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 10:59 PM)
TnG ada credit or not? nanti is card + RM10 credit only. lol

apart from that TnG, others are the norm in the industry for a Saga.
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I think it will only be TnG with RM10 credit... T.T cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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QUOTE(creative zn @ Jun 19 2012, 10:34 PM)
Can check here for standard gift. click me . biggrin.gif
Oo. Crap. Im screwed.  sweat.gif
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I brought my car from this showroom.. But from different SA.. Here is his FREE GIFTS .. He even help me to get nice 3 digit number.. Free security tint and he also give me free upgrade to more expensive one.. I'm very lucky..

My bro also brought a car without telling me.. I guess he go for your SA link.. Somehow he need to top up extra for tinted..


Added on June 19, 2012, 11:09 pmps/: my SA give me Smart Tag too biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 19 2012, 11:08 PM)
I brought my car from this showroom.. But from different SA.. Here is his FREE GIFTS .. He even help me to get nice 3 digit number.. Free security tint and he also give me free upgrade to more expensive one.. I'm very lucky..

My bro also brought a car without telling me.. I guess he go for your SA link.. Somehow he need to top up extra for tinted..


Added on June 19, 2012, 11:09 pmps/: my SA give me Smart Tag too biggrin.gif
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WOW... your's I feel very worth it... mine not that much stuff... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(li_5997 @ Jun 19 2012, 11:14 PM)
WOW... your's I feel very worth it... mine not that much stuff...  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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waa. you consider lucky liao. 2k rebate, and some gift. mine no rebate. FLX SE. buy 50k car, with only rm30 steerlock, and rm10 umbrella. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(creative zn @ Jun 19 2012, 11:23 PM)
waa. you consider lucky liao. 2k rebate, and some gift. mine no rebate. FLX SE. buy 50k car, with only rm30 steerlock, and rm10 umbrella.  laugh.gif
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Sorry to hear bout that.. I just dun understand why FLX SE no promotion, they should give some too since its raya promotion
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QUOTE(li_5997 @ Jun 19 2012, 11:14 PM)
WOW... your's I feel very worth it... mine not that much stuff...  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Relax bro.. FLX 1.3 got 2k rebate while FLX SE no rebate.. So I need to pay more tongue.gif
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Godemit, my freegifts lagi pathetic, dun even have umbrella vmad.gif
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Freegifts:
- Umbrella
- TnG
- RM 50 cash (replacement for steering lock)

Umbrella broken after a few weeks doh.gif TnG IINM RM 20 nod.gif
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My free gift listed at below:

- Car key
- Nail on front left wheel
- Old news paper on the floor
- New paint rclxms.gif
- 4.10% interest
- A piece of dangdut CD left in the player
- Some mold on the visor
- Sratches on the windscreen tinted film

flex.gif So far my list is the longest
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Morning..

Only in Malaysia, people always ask for freegifts..


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QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 20 2012, 08:52 AM)
Morning..

Only in Malaysia, people always ask for freegifts..


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True...True... rclxm9.gif

Btw Good Morning, Every1!!! notworthy.gif

ps. Re that relative who bought his Saga with CASH, no free gifts...BEST price BUT most important of all, NO PROB car delivered!!
He did NOT even hv 2sign any papers eg order, delivery, etc!! Got car delivered 2his doorstep!!
What hard cash can do!!! biggrin.gif
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A guy approach me at the kapak this morning, trying to sell me OCTANE TABLET shakehead.gif Thought you guys might be interested to know.

Sales pitch: Specifically designed with nano technology. Involved in NASA space shuttle research & development. Space craft carrying limited amount of highly flamable fuel, OCTANE is the booster energy for those fuel to help in terms of save petrol & increase horse power. Space craft need to be light weight & therefor save fuel I important to ensure the shuttle gave enough fuel to return to earth with limited fuel. Space shuttle exist since 70's, why now only introduced? We have the answer for that. 1 of the scientist left the R&D, came up with his own idea to help save petrol for road vehicle. OCTANE TABLET has developed with slightly toned down performance to avoid road vehicle being burst into flame. Ever since, millions of our satisfied customer has been benefited from Dr.Space Shuttle. And now, OCTANE TABLET is very affordable RM8/pc, 4 pcs / pack. Before refill petrol, throw in a tablet then fill up full tank. You can have the rocket power provided save petrol up to 25%. Abang imaginekan, 10 ringgit petrol only can do 50km, now you can do 63km. If 1 full tank 50 ringgit, you can go extra 63km! Jimat RM12.50! Bagus kan? Hari ini saja, 1 paket RM32. Abang nampak hensem kacak, saya kasi diskaun lagi, RM30. Hari ini saja, lain talak. Hari ini saja.

shakehead.gif

My opinion: space shuttle uses high density liquid oxigen as fuel, where got petrol? Octane main function is to retard the burning point, doesn't increase horse power. Octane is liquid. If tablet, it need some sort of hardening chemical, can my engine digest those chemical? If not, will it be blown out directly through exhaust valve or become carbon stick in the combustion chamber? Even if it does get out from engine, it will definitely jammed at the catcon!

Ladies & gentlemen, make a smart decision please.

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 10:12 PM)
P = POWER

D = DONUTS

L = LAUSAI
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can i press "LIKE" to this?
L gear is to spray poo to behind car that cucuk u wub.gif

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really wanna share wif u guys... about fuel tablet, octane tablet, surbo, cyclone, suction turbo, electric turbo, micro-compressor, firestorm coil booster, splitfire plug etc...

http://www.fuelsaving.info/index.htm



fuel line magnet
http://www.fuelsaving.info/magnets.htm

firestorm coil booster, splitfire etc
http://www.fuelsaving.info/ignition.htm

micro-compressor and the likes
http://www.fuelsaving.info/air_bleed.htm

surbo, cyclone, etc
http://www.fuelsaving.info/turbulence.htm

octane tablet, unknown octane booster additive etc
http://www.fuelsaving.info/fuel_additives.htm
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 19 2012, 06:06 PM)
no way....  shakehead.gif i'm not a racer, don't like to cucuk people neither go above 140km/h
the first time i got my car, i try out the top speed just to test the ability of the car and also CVT  tongue.gif

now same with GP mad man, drive like ah pek  laugh.gif
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now i only gv ppl cucuk even i stay at mid lane while fast lane is empty.
if he cucuk me last time, confirm i will step down and go 140
he will eat my smoke and lost sight of me after certain distance.

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 19 2012, 06:15 PM)
drive like ah pek FTW

furthermore, it matches the color of our car, gogoman. tongue.gif
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i m black gaga, i suppose it is a pro pencucuk? tongue.gif


Added on June 20, 2012, 9:40 am
QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 20 2012, 09:26 AM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Ladies & gentlemen, make a smart decision please.
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you will fly like a rocket soon...

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HI,
I wanna ask, anyone here use a spring buffer for their FLX?
I know for FLX the spring n absorber kinda feel comfortable already, but if add on buffer, will it improve?

Last time I use buffer on my 02 iswara and it does helps when driving on uneven roads. b4 add on feel like riding a motorboat to tioman and since im using 15", sometimes sagat sommore. after buffer, somehow voila!

Soo...any takers?

EDIT : oh and i notice in Automotive Garage theres a few traders selling the AMT buffer ranging from rm6? to 30+.
some say the cheap ones are fake. but looking at the boxes its all looked similar! how do we know if they give us the fake ones and charge at ori price? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 20 2012, 09:07 AM)
True...True... rclxm9.gif

Btw Good Morning, Every1!!! notworthy.gif

ps. Re that relative who bought his Saga with CASH, no free gifts...BEST price BUT most important of all, NO PROB car delivered!!
He did NOT even hv 2sign any papers eg order, delivery, etc!! Got car delivered 2his doorstep!!
What hard cash can do!!! biggrin.gif
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Hahaha Jason Lo sweat.gif

Laugh as you may, but this is what makes us Malaysians. Besides, Singaporeans are worse tongue.gif

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 20 2012, 09:26 AM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Space shuttle also got solid rocket boosters, maybe they korek the tablet out of those (their main fuel is aluminium, so you can add in pepsi can to add moar powah!!) laugh.gif then you car can fly to the mooooonnn. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 20 2012, 08:52 AM)
Morning..

Only in Malaysia, people always ask for freegifts..

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 20 2012, 10:29 AM)
(their main fuel tank is aluminium, so you can add in pepsi can to add moar powah!!) laugh.gif  then you car can fly to the mooooonnn.  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 20 2012, 10:32 AM)
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Fixed tongue.gif
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shakehead.gif shakehead.gif Their SRB main fuel really is aluminium sweat.gif sweat.gif

BTW added you to the attendance list on the 31st 30th.

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 20 2012, 10:32 AM)
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Space shuttle's rocket booster really uses aluminium as their fuel, by assitance of liquid oxigen. If you spark liquid oxigen, it will burn anything, even stainless steel. So dares is not wrong nod.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 20 2012, 10:35 AM)
shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif Their SRB main fuel really is aluminium  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 20 2012, 10:44 AM)
Space shuttle's rocket booster really uses aluminium as their fuel, by assitance of liquid oxigen. If you spark liquid oxigen, it will burn anything, even stainless steel. So dares is not wrong nod.gif
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Speaking of rockets,

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First notes on the Turbo, which I spent most of the time in. Truth be told, this car does not feel quick off the line. The first two gears slush around before locking in the third – or around 60 km/h – before it starts to build serious momentum. You can imagine this as a Saturn V taking off; there’s a lot of noise and the lift-off is labourious. Then, once it starts to break off from gravity, it shoots to the beyond like a rocket that it is.

Sounds like the Campro too laugh.gif
From here.

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 20 2012, 10:46 AM)
Sounds like the Campro too laugh.gif
From here.
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dares ,

yayaya.. i memang pakai glasses what...

haha.. 2k rpm sometimes 90-100 leh.. thats why i mention 100.. takpa nanti i kasi proof. haha..

about freegift..

no diskaun like usuall

umbrella
steering lock
voucher tinted RM300 (but must buy any tinted product above RM700 from that shop)
and Smart Tag smile.gif (i pow the SA this time.. say 2 cars already from you.. smart tag pun kedekut..)
and full tank minyak..

Proton Taman Desa Baiduri, Cheras. Look for Fendi.. from 2009 he is no 1 sales in that outlet. hahaha
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jun 20 2012, 11:15 AM)
dares ,

yayaya.. i memang pakai glasses what...

haha.. 2k rpm sometimes 90-100 leh.. thats why i mention 100.. takpa nanti i kasi proof. haha..

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let me get the proof first.. than we decide lor..

ps : i also scared already. hahaha
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ppl who attending upcoming TT can start thinking wat to drink from now.

person below confirm need to belanja u guys laugh.gif

QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jun 20 2012, 11:26 AM)
let me get the proof first.. than we decide lor..

ps : i also scared already. hahaha
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arghhhh... but.. if im correct?
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jun 20 2012, 11:26 AM)
let me get the proof first.. than we decide lor..

ps : i also scared already. hahaha
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Hahahaha just kidding...

QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 20 2012, 11:31 AM)
ppl who attending upcoming TT can start thinking wat to drink from now.

person below confirm need to belanja u guys  laugh.gif
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Shhh....nanti he dowan to come...
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alaa setakat air kosong 20 cawan apa salahnya..

fren fren mar... ..
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Hahahaha just kidding...
Shhh....nanti he dowan to come...
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jun 20 2012, 11:39 AM)
alaa setakat air kosong 20 cawan apa salahnya..

fren fren mar... ..
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