so who's not coming besides me? any option? other workshop know to install it?

mahihi,

but sometimes the imitation EO is lurking around.. hard to determine which 1 is original... thats why when we get the bad review..

mahihi.

im just saying, chill. thats ur 50 saga.. not 34135714514231 others car in the world that using EO from castrol also.

btw this tt at usj esso? ada serve teh tarik meh there? im coming with my bro.. can see david and dares kor kor..

dude.. i not even saying about ur bar. my comment is just for the EO .. nothing to do to make u sakit hati also.. why so sudden? chill bro.. if im wrong im sorry ..

so the itinerary is meet at usj esso.. than go factory pasang.. than when the TT session? i need to stay far away from mahihi shop.. scared kena poison with other item.. hahaha

Aiya....

sigh, I'm ok I can wait, but no FSB naik Genting next week 

So guys, we call off the TT this weekend? or we TT just the same, maybe change venue?

I SAPPORT!! 

Well, am not anything against Mahihi. Personally I felt sorry for him in this incident, just like the company screw up their sales representative by closing a deal but unable to deliver goods. I think this is the lamest excuse I've ever heard, which is from 3MAX(if everything Mahihi said is truth-which I have no doubt). Aren't 3MAX supposed to have ready stock in container? Or they will only start producing piece by piece after receiving 6 pieces in bulk order only they go source for material? Anyway, I guess nobody will be able to answer this. So, all I have to do is wait, and hopefully within the next 10 days we can hear some good news from them, and hopefully there is no more excuse within the next 10 days.

Am not joining the TT, need to cancel "leave" and reapply again next round. Kindly arrange accordingly.

Meanwhile....




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No report from BLM yet, still haven't finish

 
dont wan.... i wan ur sis...wakakakak
can i get free mahihi boss~!  

no need tapau.. just kirim salam only can also.. haha.

go tangkak sure u tapau meter 140km/h.....

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Added on July 6, 2012, 12:28 pm
(make face dono a.k.a buat muka tak tahu)

double post!

fsb feel mybe like when i install spring buffer, instantly steering handle sharply and precisely.
my installer said be careful not to involved in an accident with the new steering feeling..
u jz need time to be familiar with it, but it's nice, u can zig zag with confidence

last wednesday, i race with satria old gen.. exhaust bising.. jz around 40-80 he's very close to my butt
but after that mybe he jz surrender? 

i wonder ar david, if install rear strut only, good or not?
or fsb only...

No fair, you use Jap chick to poison   
How can FSB decrease/increase turning radius? 

BTW did you go for the Falken 912s?
Dia memang macam ni. I think after bashing his own TRD spoiler and in the end selling it, he still misses it   

pasang apa?

Already in PJ Came back last Thursday Got exams next week.
I am no suspension tuning expert and whatever I say is purely out of my limited knowledge from reading around. I do get where you're coming from, in the sense that the stock suspension system was designed taking everything into account and if one part is modified it may adversely affect the other parts that weren't accounted for. Example, Unker David's post above, he feels the rear suspension can't keep up now and it needs a rear stabiliser bar to balance it out. But still, like you admitted with your FSB, a bit of stuff here and there can make a difference and improve things.
Nobody's adding these bars primarily for safety. Though I guess they would help prevent the chassis (passenger compartment) from deforming in an accident, after reading the testimonies at UR's website.
Well I think that's why people mod their cars, to try something new, hoping for improvement and to adapt to the changes. I believe what you're trying to say is that adding all these bars should be done in moderation and yes, you're right. My Gaga is 100% stock (if you don't count the battery and tyre change a few weeks ago) and this is my first step towards exploring the effects of these suspension tuneups.
You know, after reading Unker David's writeup he nearly poisoned me to get the rear strut bar too. I was so tempted to ask Mahihi if there's stock for the RSB. But I think I'll hold back for now. The other week when I told my friend I'm getting a FSB he told me to add the full set, fender bars, undercarriage braces, etc. I thought that was too much and didn't consider it, but then again I don't blame him because he got into a serious accident a few months ago (head on collision against a drunk driver) and the roll cage in his Wiga saved him from serious injuries.
I have driven more expensive cars before, ranging from RM 200-300k and I'd say that those cars may be fast, comfortable and powerful but they are nowhere as fun to drive as the Gaga. I remember chauffeuring my boss around in her Mersilis but at the end of the day when I drove my Gaga it brought a smile on my face. For the price, I am pretty satisfied with this car but I feel things could be further improved on the handling side. As you can see on Fuelly I drive mainly for economy (though there were times last year when I'd frequently rev to 6k RPM) but I also do enjoy taking corners faster than the average driver (probably still slower than some of you here though). After test driving the FLX on the windy Batu Ferringhi - Teluk Bahang road the other week I really like the FLX's suspension and wished it was originally tuned that way on the BLM.

Anyways, I am still feeling good about my Gaga, and I agree with you that we should take things slowly. For those of you who think you're considerably knowledgeable and you know what you're doing, feel free to do as you wish

Bro Z1,

Some of the point is totally legit, for example overall balancing of the vehicle. However, suspension came last because the suspension were tuned based on the chassis/weight/purpose. So, chassis flex for factory fresh vehicle is unavoidable. Factory always design vehicle WITHOUT strut bar, the only reason I can think of is the PURPOSE. Why would we put a piece of racing equipment on a road use car? Further that, why would I put a stick across the engine bay that kacau me when I need to service my engine? Last but not least, metal is getting expansive, for that matter no way I'm going to add on weight to the damn car.

I've used 2 points struts on few of my cars(even 1 of my Kancil). The only difference I can feel is slightly oversteer. However, you should try the 4 point bar by 3MAX. It just simply feel different. I dare not to say how good it is, but it gives you room to adjust when you're losing control. With this fact alone, I'd say this is a good buy. Never thought that extra 2 point made huge difference.
I drove EF, EG2, EK4, EK9, EP3, FD before. The suspensions are really good and well tune. The power steering really sucks, damn light and numb. What does it have to do with chassis flex? The answer is no. Chassis flex will produce the BENT between the strut towers, thus limit travel distance of the shock absorbers. You can put the hardest spring+absorber on your ride, that doesn't mean you don't have chassis flex.
Just be extra careful when you test your 1st speeding corner I dont know the theory, but according to your description almost fit everything on my BLM.

Anyway, please refer below photo shots taken earlier:

Whilst waiting for Marhaihai at ESSO, spotted another TRD


Our car rear seats took off, all I can see that links both side, besides of the roof and base, there is a piece of black color PVC board & some steel plate on the rear speaker panel holding between! I understand Savvy's chair is foldable, therefore that part is made of "AIR" so it can be fold back to put luggage. I think Plotong totally omitted the fact that we need to keep 50 durians whist keeping the passenger's ass safe


No drilling required, everything plug & play


This is what I mean, there is only a piece of PVC board holding it.


No it does not eat up boot space. However, it's now impossible to mount the amplifier there anymore... unless you use cable tie to hang it on the strut bar.

Later can not tahan, installed the FSB immediately.

FSB+RSB delivered more than expected, I was overwhelmed and unable to adapt for the time being. If you ask me whether this worthy, I can tell you I decided NOT to mod my suspension anymore. These stuff works pretty well with the standard shocks already. As of the rear stabilizer, I can live without it as long as I don't go attack corner like dares, think I can keep my rear tyres on the floor with no issue.

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Added on July 7, 2012, 1:24 am

Now I can answer your questions with those photos.

1) Please expect nothing, placebo effect will give you more chemical

2) Only if manufacturer came up with some proper design, not those "BRANDED" stabilizers that BOLT a few nuts at  both coil spring tapak and call it stabilizer. What I want is something like this:

instead of.. ahem! This

3) You're right, what was I thinking. Negotiate less but turn more, but only take into account when shocks are having extreme forces(when chassis flex), otherwise you'll feel exactly the same. More obvious when you're those kind of bugger who like to go over speed bump by senget. The left right sway has been totally eliminated(could be my RSB).

4) I should have listen to Marhaihai to take the FSB 1st, few weeks later to install the RSB. Now I have absolutely no idea whether the FSB made such difference or the RSB? Or may be it only happen when both are installed.

all i can say, blm and flx suspension very different. it might work with blm, but in stiffer flx, it will hv less effect than blm. flx also taller esp at rear, even taller than fl..

imho, flx rides harder than civic, what about blm compared to civic ride feeling?

Time to add the RSB, you may fall in love with GaGa... again