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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V24, "Drive so fast for what???" EDITION

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huzaifa136
post Jun 15 2012, 05:51 PM

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can't make it for TT for 3max bar. going out of town
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post Jun 18 2012, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jun 18 2012, 01:10 PM)
3Max 4-point front strut bar
Bulk price RM135 (original RM150) - Minimum order for bulk price = 5 orders

1. dares
2. davidke20
3. Mieza-paid
4. lhwj-paid
5. huzaifa136-paid
6. zukjka
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if whoever that couldnt make it on saturday,and prefer to cod,sorry that i couldnt provide the installation due to i dun have the tools,and sorry,i wont risk the nut by using spanar,tq
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so who's not coming besides me? any option? other workshop know to install it?
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post Jun 18 2012, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jun 18 2012, 02:29 PM)
any workshop can install for u,if u appear any fren that have the adjustable type then will be better,spanar will make the tread of the nut gone, sweat.gif  sweat.gif  dun over paid too,if rm 10 oni let them do....or when u go sc borrow their tools..
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 18 2012, 02:29 PM)
its very easy to do if u had the correct tools to do it~!
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then it's ok.. nut provided right? and doesn't need torque wrench?
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post Jun 18 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2012, 03:29 PM)
I've driven my 1.6 from KL to Ipoh at 120kmh - 140kmh, no overheat issues.

Like any other cars, driven sensibly, there should be no problems. The Saga is not a race car.
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true.. but above that 150-160, fuel consumption very high. last weekend from gambang to kl
early in the highway i drove till almost 160 and 1 bar will be gone only after 32km
where else if driven till at least 120kmh 1 bar can go further around 50-100km per bar.

mind u the cvt hv it's own cooler, not sure how fast it can overheat
>5k rpm for more than 2hrs?
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post Jun 18 2012, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jun 18 2012, 04:16 PM)
also, higher than 110km/h, changes kena loteri dengan polis trafik also higher...
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jz after i slowed down because of the bar dropping too fast.. i saw a police sitting under the flyover with cam blink.gif
speed trap!

hopefully i won't receive a summon

speaking of bypass/touge.. my journey to muadzam i use kuala klawang road, very sunyi, bushes all over the road shoulders.. tight corners too..

went back to kl using lpt to cut travel time and less tension to overtake lorries

on the kuala klawang road, almost everytime attack corner feels like over the limit of this car
speed around 60-70.. tight bent summore

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post Jun 18 2012, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 18 2012, 05:06 PM)
Here is my FC experience since I've drove this FLX more than 35,000 KM in 10 months :

From KL - JB (300KM distance)

90~100 km/h, one bar >105KM
100~110 km/h, one bar >90KM
120~140 km/h, one bar >70~80KM
130~160 km/h, one bar > 50~65KM

Look at this, drove til 102 KM but still never drop one bar...  brows.gif

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I've try speeding 140 km/h to 160 km/h for continuous 1 hour, so far, no overheat problem occur on CVT.
Maybe the CVT get cooler too because the cooler get more air during speeding.
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great sharing from most senior flx user rclxms.gif
is this stock? and the high speed drive is it constant rpm?
coz mybe i'm not on constant rpm (trying to acceleration either to maintain speed uphill or
brake for slower cars and then accelerate again) which was not quite efficient

mine 1 bar for low 30km very high fc

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post Jun 18 2012, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(riezzien @ Jun 18 2012, 05:20 PM)
Hm, even me driving manual flx also get around 75 km per bar (driving 90-100kmh) after fill in full tank. great FC there getting 100+ km T_T
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highway/long journey mar.. btw 100+ achievable for speed lower than 100kmh
interestingly i achieved that went drove from kb to kl via trunk road
which demand slower speed than that on highway
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post Jun 18 2012, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 18 2012, 05:24 PM)
Mine BLM manual @ 3600rpm can do 140km for 1st bar and 120km for 2nd bar, so ur @ such low rpm should be if not better, equal my car FC. So still u need to control ur right foot... laugh.gif
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manual might still get the best fc compared to cvt and auto
if the driver knows the right time to shift and it hv good ratio between gears

on normal condition cvt is on par with manual coz not that many manual drivers
know how to get the most out of their manual car.

on manual tranny, there's also a lot of ways to experiment to get better mileage
cause it mostly depends on ur right foot.. whereas cvt depends mostly on computer to calculate the best ratio

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post Jun 18 2012, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 18 2012, 05:44 PM)
Highway constant 3600rpm where need to shift gear one...
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ok then. but there's too many factors.. and probably the driver
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post Jun 18 2012, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 18 2012, 09:23 PM)
Normally i travel from JB -> Ipoh, i fuel it full at Skudai, i only refuel when reach Ipoh, total mileage is about 520km. blink.gif

Of course i'm slow poke, always done 110km/h only, becos poorfag scare love letter from police.

But honestly since i bought my car, you nv saw even a post from me that complaint about high FC of this car, when i saw u guys post <10km/L, i'm like speechless and just keep diam diam only. Maybe my driving style? or i'm lucky to get a low FC engine? i'm not sure, dun shoot me, my full tank (mostly 33.XL) won't go down 350km even once, normally >400km/tank at normal city drive.

Driving style, shift @ 2.5-3k RPM, that's it. Sometimes get challenge red line all the way, but only few sec, won't kill FC so much.

Anyway, no fuel saver in my car or any other mod, just a K&N drop in, and 5W30 FS oil, and tell u, Petronas 95. wink.gif
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u can be hyper-milling sifu ni rclxms.gif <cc: davidke20>
it's driving style in kl, stuck in traffic jam and aircond at highest temp
for manual car, if u drag the gear too long it'll consume more fuel
that's why one must get to the highest gear as fast as possible and as condition allows

i've nvr driven manual blm so nvr knew optimum shift point
but if i ever drive a manual, it'll be based on the engine sound hmm.gif

question is does our sense correct? if wrong then that's the problem of high fc

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post Jun 18 2012, 11:48 PM

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but last time u got a good fc also right? or at least normal fc
if i'm not mistaken the picture with 3/4 bar left with 2xx km?

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post Jun 18 2012, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 18 2012, 11:32 PM)
Just let me wrap this up first yah notworthy.gif

I think there's nothing wrong with his right foot or driving style. It's the car. There's quite a bit of difference between his Gaga BLM and Iswaga's consumption on Fuelly, if you notice.
yeah.. true also. i forgot he also hv vacuum meter which is even better than rpm meter

QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 18 2012, 11:32 PM)
Generally, that is the rule I practice, but make sure you have enough torque to climb uphill or accelerate to merge with traffic. With the low ratio Aichi Kikai gearbox though, the car is pretty forgiving if a high gear is incorrectly selected.

For maximum fuel economy I shift according to the meters, not by feel. I can drive by feel too, but your senses are subjective and could be inaccurate. The meters never lie, unless they've malfunctioned. But you do need a good senses too, for example when to coast downhill (in gear, of course), when to coast so that you'll stop ngam ngam right behind the car in front with minimal brake application at a traffic queue.

And of course, if you drive a manual car with really good NVH, you can't really feel the car so you gotta refer back to your meters icon_idea.gif
previously i nvr care about fc, jz when people saying that campro fc is bad
i want to figure it out as now i owns a proton with campro.

my previous car was civic eg 1.5 carb sohc non vtec, inherited from my dad
nvr care about fc tho.. when felt challenged, i drove like i stole it.

can't rmmber any hyper-milling action on that car tongue.gif

regarding saga i also nvr experience dbw on clutch.. i'll probably stalled it more often laugh.gif


Added on June 18, 2012, 11:59 pm
QUOTE(feikeigod2020 @ Jun 18 2012, 11:46 PM)
you guys know any good proton service center around subang? i went for my 1k service at ss14, the mechanic is a SOB
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so far only went to 2 sc, mutiara damansara and section 13 pj
for me section 13 is better than mutiara damansara.

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post Jun 20 2012, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(riezzien @ Jun 20 2012, 10:06 AM)
HI,
I wanna ask, anyone here use a spring buffer for their FLX?
I know for FLX the spring n absorber kinda feel comfortable already, but if add on buffer, will it improve?

Last time I use buffer on my 02 iswara and it does helps when driving on uneven roads. b4 add on feel like riding a motorboat to tioman and since im using 15", sometimes sagat sommore. after buffer, somehow voila!

Soo...any takers?

EDIT : oh and i notice in Automotive Garage theres a few traders selling the AMT buffer ranging from rm6? to 30+.
some say the cheap ones are fake. but looking at the boxes its all looked similar! how do we know if they give us the fake ones and charge at ori price?  hmm.gif
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i hv it on all 4 springs. the 1st changes I've experienced was the steering feels more precise and direct feeling. u'll almost crash if not familiar with it. and for going over speed bumps, as advertised less bouncy. can't remember other feelings,

i'm not sure does it increase the harshness of the ride or not, mybe the same.
i did it all for 110 + installation

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post Jun 20 2012, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 20 2012, 12:30 PM)
Jangan percaya seluruh ceita Huzaifa shakehead.gif his butt thick as yellow pages phone book laugh.gif

I've taken his ride before, it actually felt pretty good brows.gif however, I felt the road bumbs is slightly harsh smile.gif best part is, when abang Huzaifa hit the brakes hard, I'm impressed by the stability of the the overall braking performance icon_idea.gif I don't feel the usual front sag on his car, brake force has been distributed equally to front + rear. Bravo to that!

On theory, there should be set back for spring buffers. If the rubber being installed on the spring, at which rebounce length should we install? If 1 side installed on the 2nd line of the coil, and the other side installed on the 1.5 line coil, there is possibility of different suspension weight being distributed to each side, as a result your car might drift emergency brake.

The theory is just a plain theory, not directly implying on anyone,anycar,any brand of spring buffer, nor any installation party. In this case,I'm particularly impressed by Huaifa's car as his car doesn't have any of the above problem. Less bouncy, good brake distribution & no drift icon_idea.gif
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haha.. mybe the differences not that obvious to me..
my seller installed at lower part of the spring for rear
and higher part on front

quite a few times happens to me that when i do emergency brake
rear felt likes giving up, mybe some screeching for 1 sec
then stabilized.. these ebd are from siemens rights?

the more i do spirited drive the more i want the rear to be
heavier or using sports spring or change torsion beam tongue.gif

will that give u a better handling?
but so far i still feel safe in it

just i'll hit the car's limit sooner or later
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post Jun 20 2012, 04:18 PM

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our tv lacks informative ads on cars technologies
i guess less people know about all cars jargon
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post Jun 22 2012, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(-ZeN- @ Jun 22 2012, 09:38 AM)
i do notice the rev, but then i still usually need to wait for like 2 minute to let the heat lvl go to 2nd 1. the way i park also is head in frist, so everytime i have to reverse. when reverse, the jerk is worst.
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when reverse try not to press the accelerator.. it will move slowly and up to speed..
unless it's too steep.. that will also warm-up the cvt.

and to drive forward, try gradual pressing on accelerator
if u release it then that's when it jerk.. if u let it move forward itself also good
but slower

sometimes when getting out of parking at mall, it will usually rev higher coz u want to move fast = deeper accel pedal
the best still slow and steady
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post Jun 22 2012, 03:48 PM

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last time i check SAT button on low speed juz like normal D mode i think.
coz i cruise below 2k rpm, seems the same to me

btw, jz knew that kuala klawang road that i used last weekend is popular with touge..
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post Jun 22 2012, 11:06 PM

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i've checked mine, nada.. rclxms.gif
they've stopped the saman ekor right?
from what i understand they'll need to tell people that they're doing speed trap
only then they can saman if we go over the designated speed limit
coz they've notified us

and do their online database still delayed on receiving latest data/summons? say the last 2-3 days summons

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post Jun 23 2012, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 22 2012, 11:28 PM)
Ahem! Offense last December, April 2012 only come in, now only I realized... please la. shakehead.gif
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delayed key-in data tongue.gif

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post Jun 23 2012, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 23 2012, 04:58 PM)
Vios ride is lower leh  tongue.gif
lower but softer

btw, here's my ride. plz add to front page. thanks

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